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budgeting for free today. My
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brother-in-law recently died in his
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sleep and my sister had passed
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away in 2019. When
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their children met with the insurance
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company, they found out my oldest
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son and I were named as
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beneficiaries. I think this
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may have been an oversight because the children
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were minors when they got the policy.
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They still will get an IRA, a house,
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a car, etc. The
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kids are pressuring me to sign over
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their money. It would
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help to hear from someone not close to
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the situation, what should I
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do? Well
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I think you need to make
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a decision of was this an
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oversight. If
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it was left to you to take care of
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them when they were minors and they're no longer
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minors and he just
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hadn't been diligent with his estate plan
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and fixed his beneficiaries, then
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you are saying you accidentally did get
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money that was intended for them. If
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that's the case, I would give it to them. On
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the other hand, that's what it
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sounds like, but if there's another
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scenario that's like, okay, he
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wanted to leave us some money and he
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used the policy to do that and he
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very clearly intended to do that and
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they just feel like they're entitled to it just because it
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was their dad and mom, but dad
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and mom had a very clear
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intent to leave it to us, then
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they're just up a creek. You're not entitled
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to anything because you're kin. It's
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not their money, but if
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you truly do believe what you said that
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you think it's an oversight, then
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on a moral basis, I'd give it to
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them. For option three, maybe
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these kids are hurting. Obviously, they've been through a lot the
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last few years. years, but if
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they're running to their aunt
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saying, give
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us our money, maybe there was some anticipated
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immaturity and we
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want you to do what's right with this money, this best is
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going to love these kids. Maybe not, but man. Yeah,
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I mean, again, I think you need
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to decide what your brother-in-law and your
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sister's intent
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was. Legally,
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you can keep the money. It's
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not their money. Legally, it's your money. No
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question. Nobody's going to argue that. No court's
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even going to look at this. They'll dismiss it in 30 seconds.
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It's your money. It's in your
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hands. If you think
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that it was a mistake, it was
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an envelope mailed to the wrong address
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and you do feel like it's rightfully
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theirs, then I would give it to them. It's
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what I would do in that situation
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you're asking. Again, though, on
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John's point, option three is the
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parents felt like the kids were too immature to handle this money and
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we don't even know how much it is. You didn't tell us life
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insurance money, so I'm guessing it's north of 100 grand, but mom
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and the parents left it to you because they thought the
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kids were going to mess it up. They
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should have left it into a trust instead, but they didn't. They
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left it to you and left you in an awkward position. You
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can handle it like you think they want it handled,
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which would be to dole it out slowly to the
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kids, like they might have done if it was left
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in a trust. That's a good point, John. You could
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do that. Let's
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see here. I think this might have
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been an oversight because the
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children were minors when they took out the policy. That's
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what I'm going on. Right.
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I'm just thinking of my family members and
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if I have
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a niece and a nephew, one of
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which is doing great, one of which is
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really struggling, and I know that my brother
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or sister, were they alive, would treat this
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differently and they gave me the money. I'm
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just thinking out loud here, but maybe I might say
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no for tuition. Yeah, but not for
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your Mm-hmm, and I'm
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not gonna not for your life challenges Yeah, I'm gonna take
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you I'm gonna take care of
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you like they would have there you go And I'm
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gonna love you well, and you may not like that.
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Yeah, but if you don't like it. I don't care
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It's not you're not in control here. I'm in control.
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It's in my control to do whatever but you can
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decide What was the what I
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would go with is what your brother-in-law and your sister's
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intent was if you think you if you think you
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can Anticipate that was it to you
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was it to take care of this and manage it
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for these immature adults or was it
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to was it? Just they screwed up and never
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made the beneficiary change that simple And
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I don't know I can't you
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said in your email that you
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thought it was An
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oversight and so that's what I'm going on
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guys this this is why you go to mama
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to bear legal forms comm and you get a
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will and By
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the way When
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you die The state
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that you're living in Will
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do the probate not
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the last state you lived in when
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you did your will at the other state So
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when you move to a different state when
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you go through a major life change you need to update
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your will when the kids grow
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up you need to update your life
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insurance policy and change the beneficiary and You
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got to keep up with this stuff And
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so, you know, this is what rich people
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do They take care of
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the money. So the lawyers don't get it in
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some argument About
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something because they take care of business And
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so I'm sad for the loss
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of your brother-in-law and your sister. I'm sorry for
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that But their job was to not have this
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mess Your job is not
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have this mess people your job is to get a
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will in the state that you
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live in in the family Situation that you're in.
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So as soon as your spouse passes away,
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you need a new will in the
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state that you live in. As
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soon as you move
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or you get a divorce or the
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kids grow up, we had
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one set of estate plan before
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when our kids were minors. When they were no
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longer minors, we changed the estate plan and had
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a new will done. So go
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to Mama Bear Legal Forms, go to your estate
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planning attorney and get this stuff done. This
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is how families end up not speaking
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to each other. My aunt ripped me
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off. She took all that money that
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Mama gave accidentally because Mama didn't fix
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it. A bunch of
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freaking rednecks. I can hear
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it now. I've grown up with them my whole life. Shut
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up. It's just white trash. Shut
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up. Don't be arguing about
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money. Love your family. Take care of
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your family. If you're gonna
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cut somebody out of the will, tell them while
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you're alive. Let them be pissed off
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at you while you're walking the earth. Don't
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leave it on somebody else to get pissed off at.
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So you're not mad at my aunt
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because she executed the will
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exactly as it was supposed to be
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executed and was written. She's the executor
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of the estate, which by the way
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means execute. That's what it means.
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You have to do what the will says.
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The will says you didn't get any money
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so you're mad at your aunt. That's dumb.
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You can be mad at your mama's, what
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you need to be mad at. She's dead
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but she's the one screwed you out. Not
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your aunt. Your aunt has to do exactly
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the way it is. So you folks if
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you're gonna do that stuff do it while
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you're alive. We have a full-on estate planning
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meeting that goes two hours every year. Basically
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if Dave dies this year this is what
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it looks like. It's all laid
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out for the whole company. Leadership,
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publicity plan, traffic
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control, everything. It's all discussed.
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It's ridiculous because I
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love my family so much that I
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don't want them in a situation like
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that to have to deal with crap
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that I... I was supposed to deal with when
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I was alive. That's
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called doing a will. Did
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I get fired up about that? No, I'm
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kind of waiting to hear what you really think about the whole thing. Just
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so people know, this is not academic,
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I had an opportunity to get a will done
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by one of the great wills
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and trusts professors in the country, Jerry
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Beyer, walked me through it, did
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my whole thing in Texas, and then I moved.
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One of the first things we did when we got to
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Tennessee was mama bear wills, and we did a will there.
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It's not going to do my whole estate
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plan all that, but I had to have
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something on paper that
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is valid in that state because I'm a responsible parent
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in the state. State planning is
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state law, probate law, is state
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law. It's not federal law. Louisiana
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law is way different. It's
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French based. California is
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way different. It's granola based.
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I'm telling you, the laws in these
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states are dramatically different, so you need
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to do a will in the state
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you live in right now. Create
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