In this episode the bois talk with two of NYC top personal trainers. Marcos Rodriguez has been in the industry in New York for two decades and knows everyone in the industry. He's become well known for his Arnold impression and experimentations in the world of psychedelics. Ethan is a Springfield College grad and a partner in Strength Score, a new training system developed by him and Dr. Pat Davidson with Kaiser Fitness. He's also prepping for next Year's NY Open where he plans to shock the bodybuilding world.

These guys are both stupid smart, personable as hell, and jacked so you should listen to them. We delve into programming, generational divides, and what really matters in training. We also shout out to Kassem Hanson, Broderick Chavez, Pat Davidson, and Arthur Jones. And of course Marcos drops a "get to the choppa". Like, share, subscribe, and tell your friends.

2:00 Intro

9:15 Jeb's ulterior motive

15:00 Generational divide

20:00 How to measure what matters

28:00 "You can only measure zero & failure."

37:00 Priority dictates success

44:00 Bodybuilders aren't strong

49:00 Why you should grind early in your career

53:00 What training split are you running now?

55:00 Do you really want to be a bodybuilder?

1:02:00 Nobody deadlifts anymore

1:08:00 Patterns are universal, solutions are individual

1:18:00 Marcos and psychedelics

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