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to the Season with Peter Schreger.

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We are through Memorial

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Day weekend and we are looking at the abyss

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of NFL news. But I wanted to pop

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on and have a podcast because I

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want to check out to one last week, and Aaron

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wan Kaufman is joining me. I feel like we

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need to unpack the schedule stuff a little bit

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and kind of set the stage for what's going to happen

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over the next few weeks, but also hit on some

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other things both around the league, around

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New York City, and around the sports

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and pop culture world. Aaron,

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I'll go back to our interview with Mike North,

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which is our last podcast, and I

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didn't realize his quote about the Jets

1:03

owing US one and us being the

1:05

league what's gonna take off the way it

1:07

did? It was like national news, and I'm

1:09

like, did you say that on our podcasts? And

1:11

then I go back and the clip was from our podcast.

1:14

So what Mike North, who we love,

1:16

the schedule maker from the NFL, said was that

1:19

the reason the Jets have the most primetime games

1:21

is because they're a Marquee team and

1:23

a Marquee network, and the way

1:25

things went down last year, tongue in cheek,

1:27

he said, they owe us one. Sure enough, the Jets

1:30

have me, you can't. They asked Rogers about it, and Rogers

1:32

like, yeah, like, I think

1:34

we I think we did. Like Rogers was cool with it.

1:39

The Jets comment was big. The other

1:42

thing that was interesting was we were kind of on it before

1:44

everyone else, the Netflix deal

1:47

and kind of unpacking that since so I

1:50

didn't realize how I'm

1:53

not gonna say monumental

1:56

it was, but I think it caught a lot

1:58

of people by surprise if they were able to put

2:00

together that Netflix package so

2:02

soon, because in March they had the league meetings

2:04

and Netflix was not in many of the conversations

2:07

with the other league broadcast partners. So you

2:09

have your CBS, you have your EVS, ESPN,

2:12

you got Fox, you got NBC, and how you

2:14

got Amazon? Now, if you're Amazon, you're

2:17

like, all right, we just shelled out all this money

2:20

for the Black Friday

2:22

ownership, which is kind of like that holiday feel,

2:25

and we're also gonna be getting a playoff

2:28

game, and we've now got a couple of years under our

2:30

belt with Thursday Night Football. If we're the official

2:32

streaming partner and we're paying all this money

2:34

for Black Friday, Christmas Day,

2:36

seems like a natural link. Well, Netflix

2:39

comes in. They do the deal with Netflix, which interesting

2:41

is it's just for two games, and Netflix has

2:43

given no indication that they're looking to like buy

2:46

a bigger package. From all

2:48

the reading and all the conversations I've done,

2:50

Netflix brings something that the

2:53

other networks apparently do not, and that

2:55

is this global audience

2:57

all under one tenth. So what does

3:00

that mean? Yeah, the Fox games

3:02

are broadcasted overseas, and yes the

3:04

CBS games are broadcasted, but

3:07

those might be on partner networks like Sky

3:10

or be in Sport or wherever

3:12

those those other networks are overseas.

3:14

With Netflix on this Christmas Day

3:16

game, everyone's gonna watch it on

3:19

the same network, on the same broadcast,

3:21

with the same voice, the same production, all at

3:23

once. Is there a value to that? I guess. Netflix

3:25

apparently reaches way more in their

3:27

global audience, and that was the NFL's push

3:29

on it. Netflix all also was willing

3:32

to pay a certain dollar, which I'm sure is

3:34

very appealing in a lot of ways, and it also brings another

3:37

partner into the NFL, which leads to, you

3:39

know, negotiations with the league when

3:42

it comes to future games. Well, there's another person at the

3:44

table. I will say

3:46

this. What's interesting is that,

3:48

like in this dynamic,

3:50

does the NFL need

3:53

Netflix? I'd say it's nice to have to

3:55

get that Netflix audience. We saw that the

3:57

Quarterback series with the number one rated series

3:59

last summer, and that was a cool partnership.

4:01

And the Brady Roast obviously has

4:03

football, you know, tentacles. Does

4:06

Netflix need the NFL, I

4:10

don't know. Like to me, everything I've read,

4:12

it's like they view this as an event, and

4:14

it's more like they're to the event of

4:17

having Christmas Day NFL

4:19

and then they use that to maybe

4:22

promote the wrestling

4:24

package they just paid five hundred million dollars

4:26

for throughout the Christmas Day event. They

4:28

use that to try out their new ad tier,

4:31

which they're kind of soft launching and

4:33

using in a different way. You're going

4:35

to can't avoid the ads. If they're going to do an NFL

4:37

game, they'll put them on and they'll be able to use that

4:39

ad tier for the first time. A lot of conversation

4:42

to the Netflix thing. It wasn't as necessarily

4:44

clean and easy as like, all right, here we go Netflix.

4:46

It seems like some folks were

4:49

caught off guard a little bit. I don't think there's any sour

4:51

feelings. I don't think anyone's upset, But now

4:53

you have this Netflix deal. And the one thing that I

4:55

asked Mike North, which is interesting, is like,

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who's going to broadcast these games? And when they

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says that, it's like, who's going to produce the games?

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So when Amazon came

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in for Thursday night football, NBC was

5:06

very much in line with Amazon

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and helped guide them through it. When the NFL network

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broadcasted all those games on Thursday

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nights for many years, it was the

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Fox broadcast crew would help

5:18

put it on. Then it was CBS would help put

5:20

those on. We still

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don't know, so I assume this is how

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this will play out. Netflix

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will pay either Fox, CBS

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or ESPN, Abc, NBC.

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I don't think NBC because Amazon's with NBC, but one

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of those three they'll pay them

5:39

a fee and those guys

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will use their producers,

5:43

their trucks, their directors, their ads,

5:46

their camera folks, they'll come in with that and

5:48

then on air. There hasn't been really

5:51

much discussion publicly, and I've tried to work

5:53

back channels, like what's the plan on

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air for this Netflix presentation of these

5:58

two great Christmas Day games? I mean we're talking great

6:00

games. You're talking Steelers

6:02

Chiefs. Those are two teams that are gonna be in the playoff

6:04

on they're talking Texans Ravens another

6:07

two great teams. Who's gonna

6:09

be the broadcaster? So it's just gonna be like, all right,

6:11

well, CBS is broadcasting it, and the CBS

6:13

third crew is Andrew

6:16

Catalan and Tiki Barber, So

6:18

that's who's doing the game. Or does Netflix truly

6:21

say like no, we want

6:23

to have you know,

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I said Bert Kreischer on the

6:27

podcast with North, But it's like we

6:30

have a relationship with Kevin Hart, we have a relationship

6:32

with Nate BERGATZI, we have a relationship

6:35

with Andre Agassy from the tennis

6:37

event, Like we want to mix this up and maybe

6:39

do a different approach at this. I

6:41

know there's a Netflix movie coming out

6:43

now with Nicole Kidman

6:45

and Zach Efron, Like whatever the movie is

6:48

that Christmas do they want to incorporate those

6:50

people into their broadcast. They can.

6:52

I would imagine the NFL has a has

6:54

a voice. But like I said, Netflix, they're

6:56

looking at this in an event. I don't think

6:59

it's just gonna be all right here it

7:01

is, roll it out and there's Rich Eisen,

7:03

there's Kurt Warner, there's you know whoever

7:05

else or the CBS there's Nate Burlison,

7:08

and there's you know, Matt Ryan.

7:10

I have to think they're gonna have their own studio folks,

7:13

and they were gonna have some sort of different presentation

7:15

which fascinated by. But uh,

7:18

that's rapidly approaching, Like this is already.

7:22

In bed with Omaha from quarterback.

7:25

So I wonder if they're, like you're saying, they're taking

7:27

influence from the Manning cast. So it

7:29

would be so easy for them to have Nicole

7:32

Kidman, Zach Efron, whoever like jump.

7:34

Out and does the audience Does the NFL

7:36

audience want that? Like

7:39

if I'm if I'm as if I'm a Steelers

7:41

fan and my team is seven and nine going

7:43

in or seven and seven going

7:45

into the game, do I want and

7:48

I have one who presented it? Do I want

7:50

you know Nate Bergatzi Andrew Schultz,

7:52

BT, you know, cracking jokes about Russell

7:55

Wilson the Rugs or do I just want hey,

7:57

I'm good, yeah, put on

8:00

you know, give me two random announcers

8:02

from Fox. I'm like the four, give me, give

8:05

me Adam and Mark shal Earth and I'm good.

8:07

Let's just have the game on Netflix. Like so,

8:10

I think those are really in the weeds conversations.

8:12

But that's been sort of a buzz

8:14

in the fallout after the

8:16

Netflix decision. I think it's cool. I think bring

8:19

in more partners, let's see different creative

8:21

ways and more people

8:23

broadcasting football is

8:25

better. The other thing

8:28

that I wanted to mention up top was the passing

8:30

of Bill Walton. Aaron, do you

8:32

have any history of being a Walton fan or

8:34

a knowledge of Walton? I know you're of a different generation.

8:36

You're in your twenties. I'm in my forties. Where

8:39

do you stand on Walton?

8:40

I mean, I'm a huge basketball fan. I don't

8:42

have myself any memories

8:45

of watching I'm also honored that you think I'm

8:47

in my twenties.

8:47

Because early thirties.

8:50

But I love

8:53

this past week seeing so many other

8:56

basketball voices, voicing

8:58

what Bill Walton meant not only to the league

9:00

as a player but afterwards as an ambassador

9:03

for the league and sort

9:06

of like being there to usher in this

9:08

like kind a more connected

9:11

period between the NBA and the media,

9:13

which I think he had a pard in,

9:16

especially early on. But

9:18

I don't have like, oh, I've got this his like sitting

9:20

there watching Walton games or anything.

9:22

So no, but I'll tell

9:25

you growing up a huge football fan,

9:27

I obviously I always say this sounds a huge hoopshead

9:29

too, so like I have

9:32

the you know, knowledge of Walton's

9:34

game, but I was thinking more of just like as

9:36

a broadcaster and as a personality. Obviously,

9:39

if you've written, if you've followed Walton, or

9:41

you knew the eulogy or the stuff

9:43

that's been written in the obituary is like he was like a

9:46

terrible stat stuttering. He overcame

9:48

that and it's became one of the best broadcasters.

9:50

But like everyone has this nostalgia for NBA

9:53

on NBC, and it's Marv

9:55

Albert and it's Fortello and it's Round

9:57

Ball Rock and it's Peter Vessi and it's a morber

9:59

Shott. But like those West Coast games

10:01

were very often a trio of Tom

10:03

Hammond, who was kind of your like you

10:06

know, ham and Egg right down the middle. He

10:08

does the horse racing and he would do

10:10

these West Coast games. And then it was a duo

10:12

of Bill Walton and Steve Snapper

10:15

Jones, and I think those guys defined

10:17

a generation of like West Coast basketball,

10:20

because everyone thinks of Marv Albert

10:22

on the call for like Michael Jordan versus Reggie

10:24

Miller, or Michael Jordan versus Patrick Ewing, or

10:26

you named the East Coast Battle of the Nixon

10:28

Pacers, and that's true. On the West

10:30

Coast, you would have these games between like the

10:33

Suns, you know, the Phoenix

10:35

Suns taking on the La Lakers

10:37

in a first round series that I remember was

10:40

amazing. Those guys were on the call, or like

10:42

Courtland got really good in the late nineties

10:45

and they had this like awesome team, or the Sacramento

10:47

Kings and the Lakers in the early two thousands, and it

10:49

was always Bill Walton on

10:52

those calls for those West Coast playoff games, and

10:54

he was truly like out

10:56

there, so out there, but

10:59

you learned to embrace it. And I

11:01

just thought one of the interesting things is like

11:03

how he's been eulogized by everyone in sports. It's

11:06

not a out his accomplishments, not it's just like what

11:08

a good duty was, Like what a great dude,

11:10

what a great spirit. And that includes the Grateful

11:12

Dead, you know, you know, a whole

11:15

world. Obviously, Jack

11:17

coming out Reggie Miller last night during during

11:20

the game said like, you know, when he walked onto the court

11:22

at UCLA thirty one years ago, Bill Walton

11:24

like reached out and was like, here's how you're gonna be a

11:26

UCLA brewing. But you

11:28

know, Walton was like at one with the

11:30

earth. He was. He was a guy who would cycle

11:33

sixty miles a day. Super

11:37

uh eccentric, but also

11:39

super eclectic in his interests.

11:44

You know, the Grateful Dead stuff casts

11:47

a shadow or a or a haze

11:49

over over a lot of this stuff because you're like,

11:51

wow, he is, he's really at one with the

11:53

earth. But like, really cool dude.

11:56

And you know, in an era where it's

11:59

so much content and there's

12:01

an era where it's like, all right, I'm gonna break

12:03

down the exos and nose and tell you what you're

12:05

you know, there's a place for just a good

12:07

dude who was like a nice guy that everyone

12:09

liked talking to, who said crazy shit, and

12:12

also was really respected and beloved

12:14

by those he worked with. Our

12:18

guest today on the podcast is going to be

12:20

a little outside the box. I usually resist

12:22

from doing too many players, and

12:24

the reason why is because I think the players

12:28

are usually pretty tight lipped and

12:30

don't have much to say that

12:32

it's compelling podcast content

12:35

until they retire, and then they

12:37

start opening up and tell great stories, either

12:39

they go into media or they have these amazing second

12:41

lives, or if they don't, it's

12:43

they have a connection to the game. But as a

12:46

current player, you're usually

12:48

pretty much p's and q's.

12:50

Now.

12:50

There are exceptions. The Kelsey Brothers do their

12:52

podcast, Michael Parsons

12:55

Talks, Jamar Chase Talks. We've had a lot

12:57

of these guys in the media world. But

13:00

if I'm being honest, unless

13:02

you're one of the top quarterbacks, or you're a really

13:05

interesting guy or a team leader

13:07

who's been in the league for many years, probably

13:09

don't need to have you on the season with Peter Sugar because we're

13:12

trying to get inside the huddle a little bit and

13:14

into the weeds and if you're going to open

13:16

up, it might not be over with me over a

13:18

phone call or in zoom or It's kind

13:20

of why I Super Bowl shows Aaron,

13:23

whether it be Good Morning Football

13:25

or if you like I don't. I don't have

13:27

much for the player interview on behalf

13:29

of Old Spice. It doesn't do much for me

13:31

if if you're being honest content wise, but

13:34

if you're telling me you can get a coach or a GM

13:36

where you can get an ex player who

13:38

used to play for the team that's in the Super Bowl and knows

13:40

Eric b Enemy and knows Andy Reid,

13:43

and sign me up. Say

13:45

all that, because our guest is

13:48

coming on for an interesting reason. The

13:51

guest is Justin Reid,

13:53

who is the starting safety and the Super

13:56

Bowl champion Chiefs, And that in itself

13:58

is cool and we could do a whole conversation and

14:00

maybe we will. But the

14:02

reason I'm having him on is because I saw a

14:04

little blurb, a little

14:06

blurb I'm like Apple News last

14:09

week that Justin

14:11

Reid won a

14:14

tournament called the Blitz, which

14:17

was the NFL's in house

14:19

chess tournament. Yes,

14:21

the NFL's in house chess tournament

14:24

where the NFL's best chess players

14:26

all competed. We're going to talk

14:28

Chiefs and we'll get there and he'll answer

14:31

what he wants, But I want to talk chess.

14:33

Justin Reid's joining us right for this. I'm

14:42

so excited for our guests. He's a Super Bowl champion

14:45

two times over. He is

14:47

the man in the defensive back field

14:49

for one of the best defenses in the league, and

14:52

obviously one of the most vocal guys

14:54

on that unit and a true leader. And I want

14:56

to talk to him about some of the stuff he did

14:58

off the field last week. Justin Reid,

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Welcome to the season with Peter Schreger.

15:03

Hey, what's going on, Bro? Appreciate you bringing me

15:05

on.

15:05

I love having on first

15:08

off Super Bowl champion

15:10

in February. We're now at

15:12

like mini camp in June. Is

15:15

it turned the page next year

15:17

time? But with the ring ceremonies still

15:19

kind of hovering in the next couple of weeks or can

15:21

you still appreciate what we did last

15:23

year? Where are we as far as the mint ding?

15:25

Yeah, the last page of the book.

15:27

We're doing on the last page of the book, we're

15:29

getting ready to close it. We got

15:32

the white House visit coming up on Friday,

15:34

and then we got the ring ceremony coming up in about

15:36

two weeks. So those are the last two

15:39

end notes or footnotes into this chapter.

15:41

And then we're going to close this book and

15:43

open up a new one and try and get our new

15:45

players and our young guys here that haven't

15:47

had the chance to experience the championship.

15:49

We're going to try and get the marine.

15:50

What's Coach Reed say about the White House

15:53

visit that's going to be in a couple of days. We're recording

15:55

this on Wednesday. Does he give

15:57

like primers to the young guys, like, okay, here's what the dresses

15:59

I here? Because I remember a couple of years ago, Kelsey took the

16:01

mic and it was like, all right, all bets are off.

16:05

We'll see how good we are keeping them from

16:07

it.

16:07

You know, Kelsey has a lot to say all the time, and

16:09

that guy's just so so funny. He's always a character.

16:12

So we'll see what he has of his sleep. But you know, formal

16:14

retire we want to be classy, want

16:16

to do everything first class, So student ties for

16:18

everybody, and we're just gonna dress clean

16:20

and enjoy the visit.

16:22

Have they given you any prep on what's

16:24

in store for the ring ceremony. These Kansas

16:26

City players and teams and coaches like you

16:28

guys are so spoiled that it's like, well, what's going to be different

16:31

from the other years?

16:32

Just like what is It's

16:35

been a little bit more close to the chest this year

16:37

than last year. Like last year, we had a committee

16:40

to talk about things that we wanted on the ring, and

16:42

you know, most of the guys just wanted it to be as big as possible,

16:45

as many times as possible. So I think

16:47

that you know, they probably just remembered that from last

16:49

year, and you

16:51

know it's going to be cool. We'll see what they come up with.

16:53

You know. One of the reasons I

16:55

went out of my way to like specifically

16:59

ask for you as a guest is because last Wednesday

17:03

was May twenty second, and I'm

17:05

just fiddling around on my phone, check in Twitter,

17:07

whatever, and I see this alert on Apple

17:10

News. Yes, sir, Justin

17:13

Reid is crowned the winner of Blitz

17:15

Champs three.

17:17

Championship season Baby.

17:19

Between NFL Stars.

17:21

You.

17:21

So, I don't think anyone at home

17:23

listening to this is necessarily aware of what Blitz

17:26

Champs three is, But can you take us through

17:28

what that is and what sport

17:30

you won in?

17:32

Yeah, yeah, so it's blitz.

17:34

Champs three is a is an event put on by Chess

17:36

dot Com and its speed

17:38

chess, So it's time chess. Each person has

17:40

a has a timer that they have

17:42

to make their moves and we played

17:45

five minute games and three minute games and

17:47

it was a It was a person double elimination

17:50

style tournament. We had guys like Larry

17:53

Fitzgerald, Kyler, Murray Quinn, Nelson,

17:55

Drew Tranquil who actually won last year,

17:58

Chadobe, oh Wuzier, myself,

18:00

Michael Vick, just some of the characters

18:03

already and there playing and it was double elimination and

18:05

uh you know, oh MATC. Collins was

18:07

another guy, and it was just you know, some

18:10

speed chess competition, friendly competition,

18:12

and it was all in the name of charity. So we each represented

18:14

our own foundations or a foundation of our

18:16

choice, and uh, you know, I was just fortunate

18:18

enough to come out on top.

18:20

Who'd you get in the first round? Who was your first round

18:22

matchup?

18:23

So first round was tough.

18:25

I actually had my work cutout for me with ch Adobe,

18:27

Wuzier, I

18:30

am because everything I do I want to do at one hundred

18:32

and ten percent.

18:32

I want to win everything. So I

18:34

actually hired a grandmaster to

18:37

coach me.

18:38

Some Russian comes walking in like who

18:40

do we?

18:40

Yeah, like name is James Canty. I hired

18:42

him like six weeks before the competition. He

18:46

actually taught me how to scout. You can

18:48

watch guys games if you

18:50

know they're using name. So I scouted Chadobe's

18:53

games to learn a little bit about how he played,

18:55

and we had a game plan going in.

18:58

So with ch Adobe's like opening, he

19:00

did the same opening every single time. Is that how

19:03

that works?

19:04

Yeah?

19:04

You know, you see what opening the guys

19:06

the strongest with, and you try and if your

19:08

opening isn't good against that, you have a plan for it.

19:10

But if yours works, you just you stick to your guns

19:12

and you roll with it.

19:14

All right? So six weeks ago you hire this grand

19:16

this grandmaster, does he come to you or

19:18

you guys over zoom? What's the like virtue

19:21

of that picture?

19:22

So we did a couple of

19:24

times, like.

19:26

Like when I was playing games and its only he wasn't allowed to

19:28

tell me what to do, but after I made

19:30

a move, he would tell me you could have made if you

19:32

did this movie, it would have been better, you know what

19:34

I mean.

19:34

So just through that, and then he gave me some videos

19:36

to watch.

19:37

So, like, I like playing on the Sicilian

19:39

tom and all as black, that's just like different opening

19:41

names. And I like playing the Scotch Game as white. So

19:44

he sent me some videos on watching some

19:47

some professional players that play that way, so

19:49

I can learn a little.

19:50

Bit from them.

19:51

Okay, So I gotta go back

19:53

even further. When did you pick up chess? Was this

19:55

like a COVID thing? Or have you been playing your whole life?

19:57

Like?

19:57

When when did chess?

19:59

Like?

19:59

Really, like a year or two before COVID,

20:01

we had we had a I had a teammate of mine,

20:03

Philip Games, that we used to call

20:05

Grand Mass to Phiel because he was always

20:07

in his locker playing online chess.

20:10

So he was playing, and you know what I mean, I like, I

20:12

like to just interact with my teammates. You know, whatever

20:14

they're into, I'll just play along with

20:16

it, just because I want to connect to each and every one of them,

20:19

you know, built that that friendship in that brotherhood.

20:21

So we started playing and he was whooping my tail.

20:24

Yeah, he was whooping me. So then me being

20:26

competitive, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go study

20:28

up and I'm gonna go try and be competitive. I didn't

20:30

beat him for a year, yeah, like maybe

20:32

two years, but then just keep practicing

20:35

and he's a little bit better at it.

20:36

So I'd never played

20:38

golf my whole life, and everyone would always play golf.

20:41

And then when I turned forty, I'm like, you know what, screw

20:43

it, I want to learn golf. It sounds kind of the same

20:45

thing. You're like, you know what, I'm just gonna be. I'm gonna I'm

20:47

gonna dive into chess and you're a competitor. Yeah,

20:49

and and you get through a doozy U

20:52

Chadobi, and then who's next.

20:54

Yeah. So after Chadoby, it was mac

20:56

Collins.

20:57

Okay, not wearing any shoes, never

21:00

wear shoes, he's always barefoot. That's

21:02

his.

21:04

Smart cat.

21:04

And he was real friendly too, like we alised

21:06

so many the same people, especially

21:09

so NVS actually told him that

21:11

he was like, oh, you better watch out for j Ree because they're

21:13

both there in Buffalo right now.

21:15

Nymbees another buddy of mine.

21:17

And then after mccollins, it was Calamary

21:19

and then I beat Calamary the first time two

21:22

games of one, and then he had

21:24

to go and play mccollins to get back

21:26

into the championship game.

21:28

So he played and beat mccollins.

21:30

And in that game that he was playing mccollins,

21:33

I went back and scouted our game and.

21:35

Yes, what moves. Yeah,

21:37

I looked at what moves could have been better?

21:39

And then like I played the same opening,

21:41

he played the same opening, and I was like, oh, okay,

21:43

I got I already know what I'm going to do.

21:45

Now it's already done. Like does does Spags

21:47

or Dave Merritt, Like, do they know like what

21:49

that you're putting in this time of scouting and preparation,

21:52

Like, I'm so impressed by your preparation and the mental

21:54

gymnastics of this whole thing.

21:56

Failure to preparers prepared in the field man, and

21:58

you know what I mean. So I take preparation very seriously.

22:01

That's where all my confidence comes from playing football,

22:03

That's where it comes from playing chess. But

22:05

actually put it up in the team meetings today that they I

22:08

was like, the blst chance thing. You know, we're

22:10

back to back here in the in the chiefs like.

22:14

Yeah, yeah,

22:16

so don't I don't play chess.

22:18

My kid is in elementary

22:20

school and he's playing it, and he talks in a language. I don't know.

22:22

How hard was it to learn you said the Sicilian

22:24

and this other thing like the sketch. How

22:27

hard was it to learn these terms? And how long did

22:29

it take for you to feel pretty comfortable in those chess circles?

22:31

You know, it really just depends on how how

22:33

much time you put into it, you know what I mean, Like

22:35

if you if you put in five ten minutes a day,

22:38

you can really pick up on it pretty quickly. I

22:41

loved it so much. I was probably putting in like one

22:43

and a half to two hours a day. Yes to

22:46

doing puzzles, are playing games. And you

22:48

know, if you're putting in that much time, you can

22:50

really start picking it up after about you

22:52

know, maybe a month. You really start picking it up

22:54

in about two weeks, but you right start

22:57

getting good in about two

22:59

months three months, and then from there you just

23:02

keep getting better and refining. And you know,

23:04

by the time you've been playing for a year or two years,

23:06

you can get pretty good.

23:08

Yeah, like I during my

23:10

son is picking it up, I was like, all right, let's go on chess dot

23:12

com and like you could play like Gordon Hayward from

23:15

you know, like the NBA, he's he's a he's

23:17

a chess player. And I think Larry fitz was like.

23:19

On its class

23:21

computerized bots that they yeah,

23:23

you can play there.

23:24

Do you have you ever go on there

23:26

and just play against random strangers? Is like an anonymous

23:29

person.

23:30

Oh yeah, all the time. That's that's mainly what I

23:32

do. So it's fun because whatever

23:34

skill level you are, it'll match

23:36

someone to the same skill level as you, and you

23:38

know, as you get better, you'll play better competition,

23:40

so you know, it stays

23:42

fun.

23:43

Do you have any idea like how cool this

23:45

is? I think, you know, for kids everywhere,

23:48

they all want to be NFL players,

23:50

But like short of that, to learn

23:52

that there's a crew of you guys that

23:54

on your off time or choosing to play chess, I

23:56

think is so inspiring. I think it's so interesting.

23:59

Yeah, you know, it's just it's just fun to be multifaceted.

24:01

You know.

24:02

I love football, It's what I do. I come to work with

24:04

a smile on my face every day because I have the great job

24:06

in the world. But besides

24:09

that, it's okay to have more than one passion. You know, you

24:11

can play more than one sport. You're gonna have more

24:13

than one hobby. So it's just

24:15

things that you know you like to do, and you

24:17

know it adds some personality, some some uniqueness

24:19

and some character. You know, it's a it's

24:22

a fun skill that you know you never know what it

24:24

will bring up. And you know, I was playing it for fun

24:26

and I was able to win a thirty thousand

24:28

dollars check for my charity because of it. So when you can

24:30

combine two things, something that you already

24:32

love to do and make a good cause out

24:34

of it, I mean you just can't beat that.

24:36

Is there anyone on the team today at the meeting

24:39

or you know, you and Tranquil are talking about it, Who's

24:41

like, hey, guys, like I've never played, Like can you

24:43

help me? Can you get me started? Have you inspired anyone

24:45

to pick it up since joining the Chiefs?

24:47

Yeah, you know some of the young guys. Some of the young guys

24:49

play. Joe Joe, Joe Tuny,

24:52

he plays a lot too. He already knows how to play. Okay,

24:54

we played I bring a chessboard with the

24:56

pieces on the training camp every

24:58

year.

25:00

Joseph like, Pa, break it out. I love it.

25:02

Yeah, we get some rounds in the locker room in our

25:04

downtime. So yeah,

25:08

that's cool.

25:08

What's your charity and where can people learn

25:11

more about it and maybe make a j.

25:13

Read Indeed, Jay Read Indeed. We

25:16

focus on three pillars.

25:18

The biggest pillar is the

25:20

tech space and computer science and try and make

25:23

computer science cool. And we try

25:25

to meet kids where we're at. So, you know, kids

25:28

are into sports, learning the music. So

25:31

we love to take the concepts of sports

25:33

and music and try and you know, hey,

25:35

this is your issues. This is how we want

25:37

every kid to be the superstar. We want every kid

25:39

to be the star artist. But in case

25:42

that isn't in your cards, you can still follow

25:44

your passion and computer science can help you do

25:46

that. We try and introduce tools and techniques

25:48

and skill sets that will help them and

25:51

help them find a career field as they

25:53

grow up and mature. We have Microsoft as a

25:55

partner, so we do a lot of Excel proficiency

25:57

and a lot of life skills, some financial literacy

25:59

and some budgeting. And

26:01

you know, you can find out more information at my website.

26:04

Jareadindeed dot com or any

26:06

of our social handles, you know, Twitter, Instagram

26:08

at jay Reed Indeed.

26:10

So we're excited about that.

26:12

We have two events coming up to a charity

26:14

softball game that's going to be offense versus

26:16

defense, and trying to recruit some

26:18

help on the defensive side of the ball because offense

26:20

has some former baseball players, so they kind.

26:23

Of be up on us last year. I'm not gonna

26:25

let that happen again.

26:25

No, No, when is that golf

26:28

tournament.

26:28

Coming up to?

26:29

When's a softball game.

26:31

That is next Thursday, June sixth Okay?

26:34

And is it mostly Chiefs players? Are all guys around

26:37

the league.

26:38

Yeah, so it's Chiefs players with a couple of celebrity

26:40

guests offense versus

26:42

defense format, and we have some celebrity guests that

26:44

go to come in and play too.

26:45

All right, and do you like get your

26:47

defensive back team? I guess Trent McDuffie going

26:49

to be playing third base. Like, what do we have in store?

26:51

Let me hear the scouting report.

26:53

Yeah, we're all going to the batting CAGs.

26:55

We gotta get right. Yeah,

26:57

we need a star clift. You know, Nick

27:00

Bolton has some baseball background. I'm gonna need

27:02

to Nick to be my star player, man.

27:04

I mean them at shortstop. Let's say, miss,

27:07

let's go, hey.

27:08

You're you're you're going third, bro, We need

27:10

we need to just get on the pace you're betting third,

27:12

go ahead, get us three runs real quick.

27:15

I love this. And then the golf tournament is shortly

27:17

thereafter.

27:18

Yeah, golf tournament is June seventeen, also

27:20

here in Kansas City.

27:21

I love it. Man, that's great. Uh.

27:24

I think it's really cool you guys did this. I wish

27:26

it was more, you know, widely known

27:28

or publicized, because I

27:30

think it's so cool to see that there's these NFL

27:32

guys who do things other than

27:34

play football. But also so are

27:37

applying it to such an intellectual game. Have

27:39

you like, have you watched Searching

27:41

for Bobby Fisher or did you see the Queen's Gambit?

27:43

Like, are you into like chess pop culture wise

27:46

or no?

27:46

Yeah, you know the Queen's Gambit is actually

27:48

what influenced me to play the Sicilian. Hell

27:51

yeah, So after watching that, she played the Sicilian

27:53

in one move and I was like, okay, that was my

27:55

first time hearing that term. So I just looked it up and

27:57

I started playing it, and then I

27:59

just kept playing it ever since.

28:02

There's there's like this. In

28:04

the nineties, it was deep

28:06

Blue, I think it was what it was called. It was like a computer.

28:09

And then there was Casparov, the Man,

28:11

and they would play and it was like the biggest

28:13

deal. It was like the super Bowl when I was a kid.

28:15

And I'm like, I don't even know if like people

28:18

know about that, And I love that. I

28:20

love that you're embracing it.

28:23

Bill Walton just passed away, and I did

28:25

a little bit of him in the monologue. But there was a story

28:27

that Danny Ainge told on one of the Barstool podcasts

28:29

that he would bring his chessboard

28:32

in the eighties on the plane and he would

28:34

play like an electronic chess. Like this is like there's

28:36

a long history of athletes loving

28:38

chess, which I think is so cool.

28:40

Yeah.

28:40

Yeah, It's so stimulated and it's a fun game to

28:42

play. You can make it quick, you can make it slow.

28:45

What I love about it is just kind of the same,

28:47

but it's always different, which

28:49

is the same to football. You know, like plays

28:52

are for the most part, a lot of them are the same, but it's

28:54

always just slightly different. And

28:56

it's amazing how that just changed the dynamics

28:59

of everything else.

29:00

So you know, that's it's just fascinating Kyler.

29:03

You see him pre game. If you guys play

29:05

them like, is there like what's up? Like are

29:07

you shit talking? Or is it like respect? Like all

29:10

right, like guys like it's a fellow chess player.

29:12

But I did beat you.

29:14

You know, it's all it's all love.

29:16

It's all. It's all in love and spirit, man.

29:18

So we're competitive on the chessboard,

29:21

we're competitive on the field. You

29:23

know, defensive guys on the chess board tend

29:25

to be a little bit more aggressive. I think that's just

29:27

in our personalities. So

29:30

you know, we just get an opportunity to play good guys

29:33

in great talent, man. And I just love the competition.

29:35

Man. I so appreciate you coming on.

29:38

It was awesome talking to you. And I

29:40

said it throughout this whole playoff rounting

29:42

even beforehand, that it's defensive

29:45

backfield. And I know you're losing Snead

29:47

and that's a big loss, but I have no doubt you guys

29:49

will find a way to keep it going. But you are the

29:51

vocal leader, and you were the dude, and it

29:53

is so cool that you have an interest outside of

29:55

football like chess and are spreading

29:57

the good will and spreading the good word

29:59

on how great an intellectual game it can be

30:01

and how it's really no

30:04

different than football. It's preparation and to

30:06

attack when the time is right.

30:09

Exactly exactly. Couldn't have said it better, you

30:11

know. So excited for sneed, excited for us.

30:14

It's going to be a hell of a season. We're starting fast

30:16

to Baltimore, so it's gonna

30:18

be fun.

30:19

How about that When you got that schedule and you see

30:21

Baltimore Week one, it's like, really, okay.

30:23

I was really hoping that somebody else

30:25

will play them first so I can see on the whole

30:28

quarterback option, you know, with Derek Henry.

30:30

And the marchin totally and they're not going

30:32

to show it.

30:32

You know, We're up for the challenge and we're

30:36

just gonna have to buckle out chinch straps and we know it's going to

30:38

be a hard nosed, blue collar game, so

30:40

we're just gonna be prepared for it.

30:42

Yeah, all right, you are the man. We so appreciate

30:44

it. Go to get to meetings Uh, Justin

30:46

Reid, congratulations being the

30:48

blitz champion three champion

30:51

of the NFL.

30:51

Appreciate you, my guy.

31:00

Aaron.

31:00

I gotta say I love Justin

31:03

Reid. Love that entire interview.

31:05

I love that he is a chess champion and it's

31:07

talking about the Sicilian.

31:09

I love hearing him talk about playing

31:12

against Kyler and then scouting Kyler's

31:14

moves from the previous game for

31:17

his next game.

31:18

Uh oh, it was great. Yeah, totally

31:20

cool. And I didn't know much about the

31:23

the the alternative community of

31:25

chess players at the NFL. But then he starts rattling off names

31:27

like Joe Tuney's into it. Some of the young guys

31:30

are into it. You gotta think it's

31:32

such a physical sport football

31:34

and you're you know, so

31:36

so like you know, in the zone for those eighteen weeks,

31:39

Like what a wonderful release

31:41

it might be to get into chess, and

31:43

gosh, Justin's the best in the sport, which I love.

31:46

It also is a cool like

31:48

we've you know, there are stories of Miles

31:51

Garrett would play Dungeons and Dragons with

31:54

some guys and like here, yeah.

31:55

These packers, oh lined itd settlers of Catan.

31:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

32:01

I love hearing all those kind of stories about

32:03

like other things that they're doing together, especially

32:05

in the locker room where where you know they might

32:07

have a bunch of downtime. And if they can be

32:09

even if they're playing on their phone playing chess, that's great.

32:12

Can Justin Reid be the next

32:15

great NFL broadcaster? I thought his energy was

32:17

awesome. Yeah.

32:19

He If he can talk about

32:21

football the way he talks about chess, which

32:23

I'm sure he can, he would be great.

32:26

Get him to do Netflix days.

32:30

They're actually playing the approach all right,

32:33

all right, let's wrap it here. Great

32:35

podcast episode. Love being back on the mic

32:38

with you. Some housekeeping

32:40

stuff. We're gonna keep on churning out episodes

32:43

as they come about. I didn't

32:45

have a GM or coach this week

32:48

because they were in camp. A lot of these guys are like,

32:50

they're like, it's hard to get the schedule down when they're

32:52

actually working. So we're gonna bang out a bunch

32:54

in the next couple of weeks. But the Rangers

32:56

are still alive. That's the thing here. I've been

32:58

finding myself without a four thirty

33:01

am wake up watching every NBA

33:03

playoff game and loving it, and

33:07

I'm are you or

33:09

a Luca guy? That

33:11

could be both, Like Luca's

33:14

amazing the angles he shoots

33:16

the ball at with these like leaning and tilting,

33:18

but he does complain to the refs

33:20

quite a bit, which is getting on my nerves.

33:23

But Ant's awesome, I thought,

33:25

I mean, we're recording this on Wednesday.

33:27

Karl Anthony Towns, who everyone on and

33:29

everyone beats up on. I thought he had two huge

33:32

threes to keep that series alive. I

33:34

like watching him, so

33:37

I don't think it's a done deal. I think everyone's

33:39

like, all right, well they'll go and then Dallas

33:41

will take care of business now. And then the

33:43

Pacers they led it in the final minutes three different times

33:45

and got swept. That was horrible. But

33:48

the Rangers Panthers the big deal here in New York.

33:50

And then, like I said, I'm going to be in Kansas City

33:53

for the big slick

33:55

charity auction, slash

33:58

function, slash hospital visits, slash

34:00

celebrity softball, slash presentation,

34:03

and slash five K. There's a million things going

34:05

on, but I'll have stories next week. It'll

34:07

be are you running the five K? Two?

34:09

Oh?

34:10

Yeah?

34:10

Bey? Nice?

34:11

All right?

34:11

Yeah, I'm running that five k dude, I'm

34:13

in I'm in tip top physical

34:15

shape right now. I've been I've been getting ready for

34:18

this weekend. But there's

34:20

gonna be a great turnout. And last year

34:22

we raised like three million dollars, so hoping to

34:24

top that. Uh, Kansas City

34:26

has been really good to me and I hopefully can add

34:28

just a little bit to the weekend and

34:31

maybe help raise some funds there. So that's

34:33

the big Slick charity event. Go

34:35

find that out big Slick dot org. Uh,

34:38

that's it. It's all. I got aaron, great hearing from

34:41

you, great scene. Yes, sorry I called you a twenty

34:43

year old. That was a compliment and a lot of a lot of

34:45

pun I think a young spirit make

34:48

it justin read our guests. Fantastic. Jason English

34:50

the man. Let's get some of these clips online.

34:53

Maybe I'll get a little clip of him talking

34:55

chess, talking to Sicilian. I love that. What

34:58

was the other one, the Scotch.

35:00

Yeah, the Scotch is a different opening. So

35:02

scotches if you're white, Sicilian is

35:04

black.

35:05

I think got it. Okay, leave

35:08

it at that. Yeah, I don't

35:10

know what you're even referring to their airing.

35:12

The color like if You're, if you're the white or the

35:14

black.

35:14

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35:19

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