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This is a story about Russia and
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its Rune's War. But
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I wanted to start telling it here. By
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the Galata Bridge in Istanbul. The
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ferry is on the Bosford Strait, the steep
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cobble streets, the cafes, they
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all bear witness to huge exodus.
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Thousands of Russians fled here as soon as
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the war in Ukraine started a year ago.
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Their flight echoed one made
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a century ago when many Russians
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fled violence of the Bolsheviks and war.
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Those events changed the course of the twentieth
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century, and this war is already changing
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the twenty first. I've
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come to Istanbul to speak to this new generation
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of exiles. Because their
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stories helped solve the mystery
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of why this senseless war began
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and how it might end. I'm
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Arkadia Strowski. I write about Russia
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and Ukraine for the economist. I'm
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the host of a new podcast series called
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Next Year in Moscow. Last
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February, hours before the war started,
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Vladimir Zelensky posted a video.
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The Ukrainian president was speaking directly
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to Russia's free thinkers and Russian. Who
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can prevent this war, he asks, Lorde,
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the people he says. Public
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figures, journalists, musicians. Actors,
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athletes, scientists, doctors, bloggers,
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stand up comedians, social media
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influences, and more. These
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are the people who fled Russia in the
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coming days. I
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clearly remember this feeling that
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this is not my fault anymore.
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Everything changed just in one second.
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I felt the urge to call my
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dad and I called him I
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was crying. I was saying, I'm terrified. I don't know what
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to do, and I'm so scared.
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When you live in Russia or in
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many, than free country.
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You have to have red lines. You
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have to be ready to leave. The
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invasion destroyed their hopes that Russia
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might become a normal, non violent country.
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Well, My country started
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this awful one. I think
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that this shame will be with us
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for the rest of our lives. In
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this war, Ukraine has gained a new
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sense of nationhood, but the future
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of Russia is now in doubt.
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Can it ever be a place that
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these exiles once again
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call home? The
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search for answers has taken me across Europe
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and the Middle East and along the fringes
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of the old Soviet empire. Ultimately,
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it led me to people who've chosen to keep
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light and hope alive inside Russia.
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Look for next year in Moscow on your
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podcast app. Episode
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one, is available from the twenty third
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of February.
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