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From Los Angeles moments

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and one and only, famous

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Perez

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Hilton. Everybody

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welcomes to the PHP. That's

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Perez right there. My name is Booker. How do you

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do, sir?

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We are talking Taylor Swift today

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and other things. Don't worry, You're

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not going to skip over the Taylor Swift part.

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Even the haters will want to listen

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to us. But I'm very well

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because we are one step closer

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to TikTok being banned in the United

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States.

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I am thrilled you

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are still on TikTok, you hypocrite.

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He fucking bans me again.

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So your undercover account

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again.

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Now I have a new one for those of you who care

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my latest I'm not just

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I'm doing it now just as an active resistance

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to fuck them. My very

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latest TikTok account is Perez

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Hilton twenty twenty four. So if

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you care, Perez Hilton twenty twenty

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four.

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That sounds like you're running for president. I like it.

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And actually I wasn't even going to talk about this, but

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explain this to me. I just saw

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a lot of people, a lot of influencers,

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upset because TikTok

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has this new community guideline where

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they are banning weight loss

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influencers really, meaning you

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can't talk about weight loss, you can't talk

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about specifically ozembic

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or Munjaro. That now goes against their

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community guidelines.

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Read it's bullshit.

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They're the most censoring app

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out there.

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They suck.

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I hate them and it brings me immense joy

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to see their eminent failure.

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So fuck them. Anyways.

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I had a jam packed weekend in Vegas. I

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went to a media dinner, I host a

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host. I judged a comedy show which

1:52

is actually super fun. It's called shock

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Collar Comedy. You would love this because it's

1:56

kind of like a Howard Stern bit. They

1:58

put dog collars on comedians

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and if they're not funny.

2:02

I shocked them.

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They get wow.

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I'm watching them react.

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To be zapped was almost

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as funny or fun as the comedy itself.

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Did you feel badly doing it?

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No?

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I kind of loved it. You did.

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Wow? I don't know I would feel

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bad.

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Saturday, I went to a lounge opening,

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I went to a pool party Live Beach,

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and then Sunday I met up with an

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eighties pop icon.

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I think we're alone now, Tiffany.

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I know.

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I love Vegas. I did so much in one

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weekend. It makes me so happy. I'm

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in my zone. Finally, I'm in the groove.

2:38

That's awesome.

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How was your weekend? How are you?

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I'm trying to think if I did anything at all. So

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we talked on Friday, Taylor

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Shift. I didn't go out Friday night. I don't believe

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so. No, I haven't done anything. No, I'm all good.

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I just hung out this weekend and cooked and chilled

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all right.

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Well, before we get to Taylor Swift, I said,

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we are talking about other things. So I

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was paying attention. But the

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only thing that came across

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my radar from Coachella Weekend

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two was Lanazel Ray bringing

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out Camilla Aveo.

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Yeah, was there anything else of note?

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There was just more no doubt footage that

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I saw, and outside of that really

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nothing.

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Did they bring out a special guest, No, that's

3:19

lame.

3:20

They brought out Olivia Rodrigo weekend win and nobody

3:23

weekend too.

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Yeah, I don't think anybody came out weekend to

3:25

But I didn't hear of anybody coming out, I mean

3:27

neither.

3:28

I did see video of Kid

3:30

Cuddy jumping off stage

3:32

at Coachella, and oh I saw that breaking

3:34

his foot.

3:35

You looked at this guy and you're like, this guy is not

3:37

coordinated. This is not a Travis

3:39

Scott about to take the jump. This is not

3:42

someone that you know looks

3:44

like they've got some athletic ability. You looked

3:46

at this guy and you're like, he's gonna break his head.

3:48

Or this one video that went viral last

3:51

night of Luke Bryan slipping on

3:53

stage.

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Did you see that?

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No missed that pretty funny. He was

3:56

walking slow, slipped and

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totally fell. Handles it very well.

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All Right, I just need to take a moment

4:03

to say a little prayer of gratitude

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that I am still on the Taylor Swift pr list.

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I got a lovely care package from Team

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Taylor. I'm sure by this point she has absolutely

4:17

nothing to do with it. There's enough

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people on that pr list that she's not signing

4:21

off on it every time. I'm like ninety

4:24

five percent certain it's her lovely publicist,

4:26

Tree Pain, or maybe people

4:28

on her management, or maybe she is that hands

4:31

on. I mean, I still don't know how she finds

4:33

the time to do everything, But she finds

4:36

the time to do everything. She's touring,

4:38

she's recording music, she's rerecording her old

4:40

music, she's directing and coming up with the

4:42

music video, doing it fucking

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all, and I'm very thankful

4:47

for it. And I want to reiterate something,

4:49

okay, because people hear what

4:52

they want to hear. From the very

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beginning. When we discussed

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the new album on our Patreon

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with this like emergency episode, I

5:00

said, straight off the bat, I

5:03

liked it. I never said I disliked

5:05

it. My exact words were, I

5:07

wasn't disappointed, but I was underwhelmed.

5:10

And then I gave specific reasons why.

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And he was pretty fair and balanced

5:14

because our comments

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and if you didn't get the Patreon were kind

5:19

of in step. There wasn't a lot that we disagreed

5:21

on.

5:22

Yeah, I didn't care for the production on

5:24

a lot of the songs agreed. My favorite

5:26

songs were the ones where the production was spicy,

5:29

the ones they were different.

5:31

Well, the non Anthonov songs. When

5:33

I looked into you know who

5:35

did what I do, tend to lean

5:37

towards the ones that Jack didn't do.

5:40

And you know the ones that he did all.

5:42

I don't want to say they all sound the same.

5:44

But they all sound the same. It's the same tone

5:46

and energy and the formula starting

5:48

to become a little played.

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But my biggest note

5:52

was it's thirty one

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songs long. There are

5:57

some great spectacular

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songs on there, and then there are some

6:02

songs that are good.

6:03

That's where we disagree because I don't think there's

6:06

any.

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Spectacular Oh I think so.

6:08

I think there's some spectacular moments in

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songwriting, but when you pair it with

6:13

the production and the fact that they sound like everything

6:15

else. Look, if you want to pick the best twelve

6:17

and put it out, I still don't

6:20

know if I would say this is better than any

6:22

Taylor Swift album she's ever put out.

6:24

I mean I wouldn't say that either.

6:25

Okay, that's all I'm saying. So when

6:27

you're at this point in your career, you need to be

6:30

getting at least better, you know what

6:32

I mean, Like you should go, oh, it's not better

6:34

than reputation, it's not better

6:36

than evermore. It's it's not. And

6:39

so I'm like, where does it land when

6:41

it comes to how good an album is. If

6:43

you're going to really compare her to her earliest,

6:46

earliest works, then okay, maybe, but

6:49

I kind of like those better. I mean, the

6:51

pureness and the joy of being

6:53

young is so captured in that very

6:55

first record, and even on Red It's just

6:58

it's hard to say anything's

7:00

better than those emotions that I feel

7:03

or that I relate to when I listen to it.

7:05

So I'm forced to say

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this is her worst album.

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I know, Oh no, no, no, no, no.

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Then what's her worst album for me?

7:13

And in one album of the year it's this just

7:15

goes to remind everybody art music

7:18

it's all subjective, it's personal

7:20

preference. I prefer this over folklore

7:23

any day of the week.

7:24

Say not me. And I even like love her better.

7:26

Oh I love lover.

7:27

Maybe it's the fact that it's too much. If

7:29

you just want to gave me twelve songs, yeah,

7:32

then maybe I could feel it differently, And

7:34

maybe I'll feel differently in like

7:36

two years, when I have enough time to digest

7:38

that amount of life.

7:39

I do feel differently. Here's how I

7:41

feel.

7:42

Because we spoke Friday morning, and

7:44

I obsessively listened

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to all thirty one songs. I'm as

7:49

like fucking committed. I am committed.

7:51

Yeah, I listened all weekend as well.

7:52

I am not skipping a single song anytime

7:54

it comes on. So Thursday night,

7:57

Friday, Saturday, and all Sunday,

7:59

all of those days, I listen and listen

8:01

and listen. And what happened was the songs

8:03

that I initially instantly liked, I

8:06

fucking loved, and then the songs that I'm

8:08

like, uh, I felt the same exact

8:10

way over. I'm like, eventually I'll start just skipping

8:12

these and just listen to the ones that I love,

8:14

because there are a lot that I love, and

8:16

then there are some that I'm like, Oh, those are good,

8:19

but they're not great.

8:20

I would say that for my ear.

8:22

I like the London going back whatever. That

8:24

London song.

8:25

Is good by London or so Long London.

8:27

Yeah, that's really good. And that

8:29

one down Bad is what

8:31

I I like, Down Bad, very

8:33

good song. I like that that gets in

8:35

you. That's good, So.

8:36

Long London I like. My absolute

8:38

favorites are Florida

8:40

with Florence and the Machine.

8:42

Don't like that at all?

8:43

You don't, Oh, I love it now.

8:44

I hope that warms up on me.

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Thank you, Amy.

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I love Love of My Life, which reminds

8:49

me of white Horse, and I

8:51

like but Daddy, I love him.

8:52

That's good. See, that's more of what I'm talking

8:54

about. Like a universal kind of feel

8:57

of anyone could kind of relate to that song.

9:00

I like those kind of songs. I don't

9:02

like distracks and sitting

9:04

there going well, this is about that guy.

9:06

And I like so many of them. I don't dislike

9:08

any of them. It's weird, you

9:10

know, like even Fortnite. I really like Fortnite,

9:13

but to me, Fortnite was like, it's like a third

9:15

single or a second single.

9:17

That's not a single to me, There's no way that should

9:19

be a single. That's just not a great song.

9:21

Not the lead single to me.

9:22

But just to reiterate what I said a minute ago, music

9:24

is subjective, and it's so upsetting

9:27

to me to see people that if

9:29

you express an opinion about

9:32

Taylor Swift that is I

9:34

don't love it.

9:35

There are those Swifties. If you don't love

9:37

every single fucking thing, oh, I know you're you're

9:40

either dumb or you have bad

9:42

takes.

9:42

These are trumpers. I mean, they're not the same

9:44

people. They're actually opposed politically,

9:47

but they have the same mindset when you're talking

9:49

about a hardcore Swifty. But that's

9:51

not entirely true, Perez, because I mean, if

9:53

you look, we have a message board on our Patreon if

9:55

you don't subscribe to that. But like, I was just

9:58

writing a comment. This girl was saying that

10:00

she went to a party a Taylor Swift

10:02

the Dead Poet Society, whatever fucking listening

10:04

party, and she said they didn't

10:06

even finish it. They were bored. And when

10:09

you go to a party for an album, that

10:12

says to me, you're a Swiftie. And I have

10:14

seen some comments from other, you know,

10:16

quote Swifties that have said things

10:18

like, well, good, I'm glad that a lot of Swifties

10:20

don't like this record because maybe it'll be a

10:23

cheaper ticket. No, And I'm like,

10:25

that boat's fucking sailed, honey. I mean, that's a weird

10:27

r no way. But it's like Rolling

10:29

Stone if you would have watched their social media on

10:31

Friday. I have never seen a publication

10:34

slabber over one person in

10:36

more posts in my entire life. Now

10:39

that prez will just go ahead and say, hey, that's

10:41

good business. You're there to get clicks. Hell,

10:43

I can't disagree with that, but the incessant

10:45

slabbering over something that's just what

10:48

it is is a little much for me. And

10:50

then to take it one step further, you get

10:52

the guy that reviews the album who calls it

10:54

like the greatest fucking album of all time or

10:56

whatever, and then pictures come out of him

10:59

backstage kissing on Taylor

11:01

and hugging one another. You're like, Wow, you're real

11:03

subjective. But you have other publications

11:05

that are like they won't even put the name of their music

11:08

reviewer because they don't want the throngs of Army

11:10

members taking a shit on them.

11:12

I think Rolling Stone called it an instant

11:14

classic, and I would let's sa yeah, I would

11:17

not agree with that assessment. It's

11:19

not one of my top three or top five

11:21

favorite Taylor Swift albums.

11:23

She's released a bunch of albums.

11:24

Yeah, But the thing is it just is what

11:26

it is. Look, she's a reality show.

11:29

She's a reality show without a channel. As

11:31

a matter of fact, not only is she a Kardashian,

11:33

she's talking about the Kardashians and putting

11:35

their name in one of her songs. That's

11:38

what this is. This is someone that's invested

11:40

in the plot lines and the storylines

11:42

of the evil record Company guy and

11:45

Jake gillen holland John Mayer and all

11:47

these other fucking guys that she's left

11:49

on the side of the road in the carnage. You

11:51

know, that's what this is for.

11:53

There's a lot of people that like that, that are so

11:56

invested in that. By the way, it's

11:58

a genius move. But don't sit

12:00

me down and tell me it's great music, because

12:02

musically it's not as great as fucking

12:05

Cruel Summer is.

12:06

A great song.

12:07

Okay, Like we've mentioned

12:09

the millions of the myriads of fucking great

12:11

Taylor Swift songs. None of these songs

12:13

I'm gonna have to put in that pile yet, you

12:16

know, let's say get into me.

12:17

Yeah, two things first, I

12:19

texted Booker this over the weekend, and listening

12:23

every time I went to sit down while

12:25

I was working, just I'm ocds,

12:28

It's like I've got to listen to the entire album.

12:30

So it just felt like a chore.

12:33

It felt like work having to

12:35

get through these thirty one songs

12:37

every time, and that, to me, does

12:39

a disservice to the songs, to

12:41

the music, right, And I

12:44

feel like it was a business decision while she

12:46

released all of that music, and not an

12:48

artistic decision.

12:49

True.

12:49

He pointed this out to me, And this is important

12:51

because We talked about this on the Patriot because

12:54

I didn't think of it

12:56

this way, but you're one hundred percent right.

12:58

He gave a rap on the numbers.

13:00

The more songs, the more streams,

13:03

and that's how music is consumed

13:05

and tabulated for the charts

13:07

now. Plus also like if somebody

13:09

bought the vinyl and.

13:11

They're a hardcore Swifty and there are a lot

13:13

of.

13:14

Them, they're going to buy now this new one with both

13:17

versions, or you know, the double album,

13:19

or.

13:19

Which has weighted much heavier

13:21

than an actual stream. The whole math

13:24

is different. You know, when we were kids, when I

13:26

went out and bought Purple Rain, well that was

13:28

one copy. It didn't matter if I listened to Purple

13:30

Rain four billion, seven thousand

13:32

times, which I did, it didn't count

13:35

that way. Today it does. One Swifty

13:37

could sit there and go, well, I played the fucking

13:39

whole album the entire weekend long, and

13:41

it counts against that number. So it pays

13:43

to have a lot of fans, but it doesn't

13:46

make a chart anywhere near accurate

13:48

anymore. That's just out the fucking window.

13:50

But listen, I really do really

13:53

like the album. It's not one of my favorites. I don't

13:55

think it's bad. And one

13:57

of the reasons why, almost twenty

13:59

years into her career, Taylor Swift

14:02

is not only on top,

14:04

but bigger than ever before is

14:07

Obviously she's incredibly talented, but

14:09

she's also exceptionally

14:11

smart, such a great

14:13

business person. This album

14:16

is what it is, and the next one, I

14:18

know it's going to be full of bops.

14:21

It's not like she's forgotten how to make them sleep.

14:25

And I think she got the note that we are

14:28

over Jack Antonov. Talented

14:30

guy. We appreciate him. They've done

14:32

a ton of collaborating together, but

14:34

we want a Max Martin type and listen,

14:37

it's not going to happen with Max Martin.

14:39

Allegedly, here's the tea. They had a

14:41

falling out.

14:42

Allegedly, the rumor is she

14:44

was unhappy that he wouldn't give her producer

14:46

credit on songs and

14:49

that he was demanding songwriting credit

14:51

on songs that he didn't write, you know shit

14:54

that some big producers do. But

14:56

if it's not him, but just somebody else, some fresh

14:58

blood, something exciting and difference, Yeah.

15:01

Well, and I think the whole you know, relationship

15:03

with Jack and Matty Healy

15:06

as well. I mean, he's pretty deep, isn't

15:08

he on Dirty Hit now as well?

15:09

Like that's Dirty Hit, that's the.

15:11

Record imprint of the nineteen seventy.

15:13

Five Jack ansonov Is.

15:15

It's the same people. I can just tell you that.

15:17

Well, very exciting for those that

15:19

enjoy the new album, and I am one of those

15:21

people. Taylor is going to be adding

15:24

some of the songs, or at least one of the songs

15:26

to the Eras tour. She tweeted

15:29

about practice and actually I think more than one.

15:31

She and a band's member tweeted

15:34

about practicing the new songs.

15:37

So I'm guessing we'll get at least

15:39

two songs, if not more.

15:41

And that's a really good and smart move

15:43

because they've released this on TV

15:46

where you can go and watch the tour, and I have.

15:48

I finally sat down and watched the whole

15:50

thing. I tried to. It was too long, but I

15:52

think it's good because you know, you got people

15:55

like in Indianapolis. They're probably

15:57

feeling ripped off, like we paid three thousand dollars

15:59

for these fucking tickets so we can go see it, you

16:01

know, on Disney Plus for for whatever

16:04

my subscription fee is. Now, they're getting

16:06

something that nobody else has gotten before.

16:08

They're gonna get these songs, so that's a great move.

16:11

I do want to talk a little bit in

16:13

detail about the thank You

16:15

Amy song, which we kind of glossed

16:17

over on the Patreon.

16:18

Yeah, we never did get to that.

16:19

Yeah, I talked about it, but we didn't go into

16:22

detail on it. And it's one

16:24

of my top three songs off the album.

16:26

I don't get it at all.

16:27

I love the production.

16:29

I'm a swift ye from day fucking one, and

16:31

the fact that it makes

16:33

it tickles me for many, many,

16:36

many many like for a fucking

16:38

decade plus of her career, Taylor

16:40

Swift wouldn't even curse on

16:42

a song, and now this song is saying fuck

16:45

you Amy. I just know all my og

16:47

girlies and I when when we're gonna see this in

16:49

concert live, we are gonna scream

16:52

fuck you Amy. It's just

16:54

like I said, this is a song that's

16:56

meant to be done live. It's gonna be a staple

16:58

of her live cat and I just love the production. It's

17:01

kind of got like a little Calypso meets

17:03

country.

17:04

It's like it's just meets pop. I love

17:06

the production. I like the lyrics. I love

17:08

it.

17:09

But she would not curse. She

17:11

wouldn't even drink. Now she talks about cursing. She

17:13

talks about drinking all the time. She called

17:15

herself a functioning alcoholic. She talks

17:18

about drugs so much on this album. She talks

17:20

about sex so much on this album.

17:22

She is a woman.

17:23

The evolution has really been beautiful and fascinating

17:25

to watch.

17:26

Well, you've criticized many artists for doing

17:28

the same thing.

17:29

She's not glamorizing drugs.

17:31

I just think that that's really alienating

17:33

the lower end. I think the young end. She's

17:35

finally punting on going after

17:37

them and chasing them with met Me and

17:40

all those terrible songs.

17:41

There is one thing that

17:43

she gets criticized for a

17:46

lot some of the haters bring

17:48

up, and after digesting

17:51

intensely this new album, I'm like, I could

17:53

really I see that. You know,

17:55

a lot of people say she likes to play the victim

17:58

over and over again, and this album does not help

18:00

that narrative. She paints herself

18:02

as the victim.

18:03

But it's what I said, it's just a reality

18:05

show. It's like, as long as you don't

18:08

ever come out and say this was

18:10

about that person. You can

18:12

get away with it. Some people could even

18:14

say she's bullying some of these people,

18:16

and she'll say, why,

18:18

this is just in my imagination. These

18:20

are characters that I've made up, like in Betty

18:23

or something. I'm colin bullshit.

18:25

I mean, she was so specific about the Matti

18:27

Heally songs, like you know that about Matti Heally.

18:29

Well, that's the thing.

18:30

And you're listening though, and you're listening to this whole

18:32

home, You're like, you know this one. There's like Travis

18:34

Kelcey references, there's references to Joe,

18:37

there's references to Maddie. Like everyone

18:39

is picking out which one is about whom.

18:42

And that's what I dislike. I don't

18:44

fucking care who your song's about. How does

18:46

it make me feel when I listen

18:48

to the vibe of the song. That's my criticism

18:51

and it will continue to be my criticism.

18:53

Yeah, I said that on the Patreon. I'm like, play

18:55

these songs to somebody who has

18:58

no idea about her private life, and.

19:00

Do they hold up A couple of them did?

19:02

Yeah? Yeah.

19:03

The Kim song, though she

19:05

literally spelled out k I

19:07

Am the way she spelled out the title

19:10

Thank You Amy so we know

19:12

it's about Kim.

19:13

And you know, when I.

19:14

Was listening to the to the album on Thursday

19:17

night, tired as fuck because it was two

19:19

hours and two minutes of music, some of

19:21

the lyrics, you know, went over my head. But there's this

19:23

one lyric in that Thank You Amy song

19:26

that I'm just gonna say it. It's giving major

19:28

mean girl vibes and it's a low

19:30

fucking blow.

19:31

You know.

19:32

Last year, I think there was at

19:34

one point Kim and Kanye's

19:36

oldest child, their daughter, Northwest,

19:39

did a silly TikTok video set

19:41

to the music of Taylor Swift, and Kim

19:43

was in the video with her. And there's a lyric

19:46

in this Thank You Amy song about Kim Kardashian,

19:48

you know, fuck you and calling her a bully.

19:51

The lyrics says, and one day your

19:53

kid comes home singing a song

19:56

that only us two is gonna

19:58

know is about you. Keep her

20:00

fucking kid out of it, Taylor.

20:02

And I say that as a huge Taylor fan.

20:04

I love her, I think she's family, but leave her like

20:07

that was gross. That line was gross.

20:09

I think I mentioned it last show. I don't like

20:11

any of this dragging anyone

20:13

else into this, but that's when it

20:15

crosses the line of make

20:17

believe and everything I just said in fairytale

20:20

and it could be anybody too. This is

20:22

very specific and I

20:24

don't like that, but I get that people

20:26

do. But it's back to what I keep saying

20:29

about it being a reality show. That's

20:31

what this is, and it's a

20:33

very good reality show. I'm just

20:35

not a huge fan of reality TV,

20:38

you know. I'm just I'm not, and that's what

20:40

it comes down to. But I'm a huge fan of

20:42

her. I just can't wait till her gets

20:44

back to doing the things that I like that she

20:46

does.

20:47

She even name dropped Charlie Pooth

20:49

in one of the Matty Healy songs, saying that

20:52

they talked about how they both think Charlie

20:54

Pooth should be bigger.

20:56

By the way, we've talked about that on this podcast

20:58

before, how talented it is. He is

21:00

an insanely gifted he is.

21:02

Yeah, Well, how do you think he will view

21:04

that coming from Taylor Swift like it's both

21:06

a compliment and a diss.

21:09

I guess it's a backhanded compliment,

21:11

but I don't think it. I know it's

21:13

not a dis I think it's just a matter of fact.

21:16

When I say it to you, I'm not dissing

21:18

Charlie Pooth. Yeah, your tone sometimes

21:20

has been like, well, he hasn't really had it. He hits, and you're

21:22

right, but it's like hits don't mean

21:24

a lot. Sometimes. I don't know how many hits are

21:26

on this Taylor Swift record. It's

21:29

still a juggernaut. Charlie Pooth

21:31

is just an insanely talented person, and

21:33

I believe that Maddie realizes

21:35

that and Taylor. You know, people who

21:37

know music and know how to make music, they

21:39

can identify other people that know how to

21:41

make music. And I mean, even pull back the lens

21:44

just to the nineteen seventy five. They're not huge in

21:46

America. I mean, they sell out big

21:48

venues, but they're huge with their fan

21:50

base. It's not like you could play chocolate

21:53

to anybody and they'd know it. They just wouldn't,

21:55

so it's all perspective.

21:57

The music video for Fortnite

21:59

was real least, and she totally pandered

22:02

to older people like myself by

22:05

having the cast of Dead Poet

22:07

Society.

22:08

On the music video. And I like

22:10

being pandered too. I liked it.

22:12

I liked this well Kellen had

22:14

said, she goes, I don't think any of our fans have

22:16

any idea who those people are, but I was

22:18

like, you might be right.

22:19

I loved the music video.

22:20

It was beautiful, beautiful, beautiful,

22:23

and like, oh my god, I want both

22:25

Malone to get rid of all his face tattoos.

22:29

He looks so handsome

22:31

without all the face get rid of the face tattoos.

22:34

Please. The whole video just

22:36

made me miss Robin Williams. I mean,

22:39

the most maybe gifted person

22:41

of our generation was Robin Williams.

22:43

So that him and like a Robert

22:46

Downey junior and Meryl Streep and just

22:48

completely special people,

22:51

and seeing that video just made me think

22:53

of him. That he wasn't even in it.

22:54

Very last tailor thing, I promise. Okay,

22:56

my last question, what do

22:59

you think Travis makes of all of this?

23:01

That's a very good question. And you

23:04

know she made a point two

23:07

before everything came out that the

23:09

whole you know, this era is dead,

23:11

We're closing the book on all of this. So

23:14

I think she probably couched everything

23:17

to him with that, like this

23:19

is part of that era, and it's

23:21

part of the creative process, and

23:24

let's be honest. This guy's having the time

23:26

of his fucking life with Taylor Swift. Okay,

23:28

this guy rocking the boat for shit. He's

23:31

like, whatever, honey, whatever you want to do. I'm

23:33

gonna go play Nintendo or fucking Xbox.

23:35

Whatever she says on the fucking album

23:37

about him. You know, she makes him sound like

23:39

a bro on the album.

23:41

Not even that, it's almost like a diss

23:43

It's like right, like they're back in fucking

23:45

high school, Like she makes her feel like a high schooleror like you're

23:47

so sophomoreic you're in fucking high school.

23:50

He's on the football team, she's in the band. I

23:52

mean, that's exactly it's you were fucking

23:54

meant for me or whatever. That song.

23:55

I love that song. That's my favorite Taylor Swift

23:57

song of all time. You belong with Me.

24:00

That's my point about capturing youth.

24:02

That song just captures youth

24:05

and can never be replicated. It's why I didn't

24:07

like the whole albums being rerecorded anyhow. You're

24:09

never gonna replicate that feeling in my heart,

24:11

no way.

24:13

All right, let's move on some good news

24:15

with Scott Dissick. According to reports,

24:17

he is done with his ozembic era

24:20

he realized he went too far and he

24:22

is.

24:23

Over it good.

24:25

They say you gained the weight back once you get off

24:27

of it.

24:27

Well he's They allegedly he's going to work with a nutritionists

24:30

so he doesn't gain the weight back.

24:32

I'm all right, Well, hopefully he gained some back

24:34

because he looks so crazy thin.

24:36

I was literally talking to a friend about ozempic

24:38

last night and I was like, if it

24:41

allowed me to eat all that

24:43

I wanted and not gain weight, I would fucking

24:45

take ozempic. But that's not how it works.

24:48

It just it makes you lose your appetite. I don't

24:50

want if I can lose my appetite. I want a miracle

24:52

drug that will let me eat all I want

24:55

and not gain weight.

24:57

Why does that not exist?

24:59

Yeah, it's coming, baby, yet exactly

25:01

the minute.

25:02

That shit is on the market, I will be all

25:04

over that because I have bucket.

25:05

I still love to eat,

25:08

all right.

25:10

Winona Judd, her daughter

25:13

very Sad, has struggled with substance

25:16

abuse and the law for many years

25:18

now. She was recently arrested

25:21

and charged with multiple

25:23

offenses, including in decent

25:25

exposure, soliciting,

25:27

prostitution, obstruction

25:30

of public officers, and

25:33

she has been sitting

25:36

in the county jail for over

25:38

two weeks because she could not pay

25:41

her bond of twenty five hundred

25:43

dollars. And I've seen a lot

25:45

of people say, wow, that's great, good

25:47

on Winona, tough love. Yeah,

25:50

I'm not one of those people.

25:51

Well, Perez, you've got to let people hit rock

25:54

bod.

25:54

No, no, no, no, here's the thing.

25:55

This is a pattern. This isn't the first time she's

25:58

done it one through ten times. That's

26:00

what you have to call time out.

26:01

She already had a major time out. Winona's

26:03

daughter was arrested in twenty sixteen

26:06

on way more serious charges.

26:08

So now that it's lesser, she should fucking

26:10

write it. Check the letter out.

26:11

No, let me explain.

26:12

She was previously arrested for meth possession

26:15

and meth manufacturing

26:18

and meth selling. Crazy

26:21

and she's still only in her mid twenties. She's

26:23

twenty seven years old.

26:24

Now.

26:25

She had previously served not even time

26:27

in jail, time in prison. I don't

26:29

know the exact time, but I think it was over a year.

26:32

So what I'm getting at is over a year

26:34

in prison did not straighten this young woman

26:36

out. Sitting in the County jail is not going

26:38

to help her. She already spent over a year

26:41

in prison.

26:41

Okay, well she's got to continue

26:44

to rake the bottom and say, do I

26:46

really want to be there? I mean, once again, what

26:48

is she supposed to do? Write a check every

26:50

time that she gets in trouble. This girl,

26:52

you know how the movie's gonna end. Either

26:55

she gets her shit together or the

26:57

fucking grim Reaper will find her. And

26:59

that's when you're a parent, you

27:01

at least know, at least I know where

27:03

my fucking kid is tonight. Not out

27:06

selling drugs, not out making drugs,

27:08

not out hooking, not out doing any of that.

27:10

That fucking kid is in a fucking can

27:12

somewhere. Someone's got an eye on her.

27:15

If I'm a parent, I think I'm relieved.

27:17

Bro.

27:17

I would have bailed her out on.

27:19

The condition, boy, condition

27:22

that she agrees to go to like

27:24

a six month treatment facility.

27:26

Yeah, I mean, actually maybe maybe

27:29

we know what it did offer that And the daughter said no.

27:31

I'm sure the kid's already done treatment. Only

27:33

one person could decide, and it's that

27:35

person. There's no like if sort of I'm

27:38

one hundred percent of the nota side.

27:40

Speaking of family issues

27:42

Happy birthday.

27:44

To Surrey Cruse.

27:46

She turns eighteen or she might

27:48

have just turned eighteen years old, either within

27:50

the last few days or it's coming up. But eighteen

27:53

years old Surrey Cruse, and according

27:55

to reports, her father is still

27:58

not involved in her life life at

28:00

all because of Scientology. He

28:03

chose scientology over

28:05

his.

28:06

Child now according to reports.

28:08

According to scientologists as

28:10

well, he's an awful father.

28:13

Yeah, I said that, Your a shit dad,

28:15

if that's what you're doing, Tom Cruise. Speaking

28:17

of Scientology, according

28:19

to reports, the next season of

28:21

Real Housewives of New York has

28:24

cast Rebecca Minkoff, this

28:26

fashion designer who's also

28:29

a major scientologist. She

28:31

donates millions of dollars to them. I

28:33

would not be watching if I was a watcher, But

28:36

you can do you. I can't support scientology.

28:38

I can't. Sorry. Also, speaking of Real Housewives.

28:41

Of New York, Bethany Frankel announced

28:43

the death of her mother to cancer over

28:45

the weekend, and in true Bethany

28:48

Frankel fashion was

28:51

very, very very honest about

28:53

her relationship with her mother. I don't

28:56

really have an opinion because I don't know exactly

28:58

what went down. She hinted

29:00

at it. It must have been real

29:02

bad. She says, I was an adult

29:05

long before Brin's age, her

29:07

own daughter, experiencing things

29:09

no young child should endure.

29:12

I'm not sure what that is in relation.

29:14

To Yeah, well, I don't know. I think

29:18

parenting today versus parenting

29:20

yesterday is a lot different. It's hard to

29:22

compare the two.

29:23

Yeah, it was just an eye opening.

29:26

The tribute she wrote also

29:28

passed away. Very sad. This

29:30

former American Idol contestant,

29:33

Mandisa just forty seven

29:35

years old.

29:36

She died. We don't have a.

29:37

Cause of death yet, just people speculating

29:40

because she had previously talked about suffering

29:42

depression. And that

29:45

guy who set himself on fire

29:47

outside of the Trump trial, he

29:50

ended up dying.

29:51

Yeah, he caught himself on fire. And

29:53

it wasn't like a little flame on the end

29:56

of his finger. I mean the guy was fully engulfed

29:58

in flames. It was crazy.

30:00

Thank god he died, because you do not want to live

30:02

if you've recovered after that crazy.

30:04

I can't stop thinking about conspiracy theorists

30:07

though, and some sane people do become

30:09

conspiracy theorists. But I would like to think that person

30:11

just suffered from mental illness.

30:13

Yeah, let's go there. Anybody that catches themselves

30:15

on fire is mentally ill.

30:17

Yeah.

30:18

Singer Brian McKnight has

30:20

disowned four of his

30:22

children with different baby

30:24

mamas, who he claims were

30:27

the product of sin.

30:28

Okay, yeah, you're the one who fucking sins?

30:31

Right the fuck?

30:32

Why are the kids being punished for something

30:34

you did?

30:35

I don't know. That seems like there's more to that start.

30:37

Well, he was complaining about how they were

30:40

raised by their mothers, and La

30:42

la la Gypsy Rose Blanchard

30:44

continues her makeover. She

30:47

recently had a nose job. Now

30:49

she got a smile makeover as

30:51

well. You know, she had all of those silver

30:54

that silver in her mouth, Now they're

30:57

natural colored.

30:59

What's filling her fillings?

31:00

Yeah, she just changed out our fillings.

31:02

I don't know if they're fillings.

31:03

Some of them might have just been like fake teeth

31:05

that were silver, you know what I mean?

31:08

Oh yeah, because you know, growing

31:10

up in the eighties, all the fillings were

31:12

like silver. I had to get all mind taken

31:14

out and changed to enamel

31:16

or whatever the fuck they put in there, ceramic,

31:19

whatever, pottery, who fucking knows what

31:21

it is. But yeah, I had to do the same thing

31:23

for.

31:24

All five of you that care.

31:26

Larza Pippen and Michael

31:28

Jordan's son are back together

31:31

yet again. Really yeah, yeah, congrats

31:33

to them. Also, because the Patreon

31:35

supporter asked, Pink is

31:37

suing Pharrell because Farrell is trying

31:39

to trademark this name, this

31:42

brand called pt I

31:44

n.

31:44

C p inc Right.

31:46

I don't know who said I'm on their Pink

31:49

spells her name professionally, p exclamation

31:51

mark n K. Pharrell

31:54

wants p period I n

31:56

C.

31:57

Yeah, that sounds like a loss for

31:59

pink to I mean, isn't there the clothing brand

32:01

pink? I feel like for quite a few

32:04

years it said pink on a lot of chick sasses.

32:06

That was Victoria's secret.

32:08

Okay, Victoria's secret pink.

32:10

But you're right they did. They did.

32:13

Do you think I forget color on an

32:15

ass? I did not.

32:16

Victoria's secret was very popular.

32:17

It said fucking orange. I to remember that a.

32:19

While before

32:22

we do our last topic, a

32:24

thank you to some new Patreon

32:26

subscribers. We got a bunch

32:28

who were signed up to hear our Taylor

32:31

Swift Show. Thank you to all of you Patreon

32:33

dot com slash Perez Hilton

32:35

if you're not signed up yet, please do. We

32:38

love your support and you never know what you're gonna get.

32:40

So thank you to Shanaiah Galloway,

32:43

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32:46

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32:48

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32:51

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32:54

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32:56

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33:00

Augus Stin, Deborah Dawkin who

33:02

signed up for the entire year, Foxy

33:04

Pipes who also signed up for the entire

33:06

year, Jamie Whitman, Jules

33:09

Vanessa Garcia, and

33:11

that's everybody.

33:12

By the way, Perez said something like the Taylor

33:15

Swift Show, we didn't even count that as a regular

33:17

show. And that's just pres and I went on and we

33:19

were like, Hey, this is the biggest thing happening,

33:21

Let's go on and talk about it. That's one of the cool

33:23

perks of Patreon. We do that. We

33:26

can do that, all right.

33:27

Finally, Paris Hilton debuted

33:30

for the first time photos of

33:32

her daughter London and

33:34

very strategically did it to.

33:36

Promote this new song that she released.

33:38

I liked that.

33:39

Clever marketing and actually fucking

33:42

Sea put Paris Hilton on a

33:44

song really odd. She doesn't

33:46

sound good, but she doesn't sound bad

33:48

either.

33:49

You know what. And Vampire Weekend Weekend

33:51

one had Paris Hilton on their set, which

33:53

you want to talk about left field

33:56

like Vampire Weekend and Paris Hilton,

33:58

Like, what the fuck? I know?

33:59

I actually told a friend of mine who

34:02

works at a magazine, I don't want to say which one

34:04

is, like, you should put her on the cover and

34:07

really analyze this rebranding

34:09

of Paris Hilton because it's clearly been strategic

34:12

and effective. Yeah, and I'm

34:15

glad. I don't believe, like, listen, in the past,

34:17

she said and did horrible things, racist

34:19

things, homophobic things, and

34:21

that's okay. And I'm a big gay, Okay.

34:24

I believe that you can say

34:26

and do dumb and hurtful things when you're

34:28

young and you should not be punished for

34:30

that for your entire life. Okay,

34:33

So it's okay,

34:36

all right, let's take a call or two.

34:37

Hi. This is Jillian. I'm calling

34:40

from New York. I'm actually listening

34:42

to the latest episode right now,

34:45

and I am like appalled

34:48

at how angry Perez goat when

34:51

a booker basically said,

34:53

Look, I'm an adult and I don't care about

34:55

all that bullshit.

34:56

What is she talking about?

34:58

Taylor Swift?

34:58

Oh? Really?

35:00

The like, let's continue.

35:02

I think she clarifies, let's just here.

35:04

Okay, you act like you know you're

35:07

nine years old and like they're telling

35:09

you that Santa Claus isn't real for

35:11

people who listen to the music because

35:14

they don't want to see all of that

35:16

bullshit. So relax forres.

35:19

I'm sure she'll send you tickets

35:21

the next time she's in Vegas.

35:24

Ye, I love New York.

35:27

A little attitude.

35:30

Well, I think it's because I was talking about

35:32

Remember, I was like, oh, my favorite color is

35:34

fucking red and the number thirteen

35:36

and I'm like, it's just a little juvenile at times,

35:39

and you were kind of saying it wasn't. And I

35:41

think that's what she's talking about. Okay, the codes

35:43

and but people are into it, you know what I mean. Like,

35:45

I don't care, it's just to me,

35:48

it just comes back to songs, and I don't

35:50

know, I'm just a fan of songs and I'm

35:52

hearing a lot of them.

35:54

Hey guys, this is Katie from Chicago.

35:57

I was listening to your Patreon

36:00

on the Taylor Swift album and I

36:02

guess I'm just kind of calling to echo, but wanted

36:04

to say, Perez, awesome, awesome

36:07

point about her working hard on

36:09

the lyrics and not

36:11

paying as much attention to the melodies,

36:13

because the lyrics are amazing, but

36:15

we all know.

36:16

She can write.

36:17

It's great, like you said, a diary, but

36:20

at the end of the day, it all starts to sound the same,

36:22

like she should have put out a poetry

36:24

poem down there and then either like made

36:26

a poem book.

36:27

Ye I just said that.

36:29

You know people would eat that up, make a poem

36:31

book, or release the other songs in

36:33

like six months and pretend it's a brand new era,

36:35

whatever the hell it is. I think thirty one

36:37

songs is way too much, even

36:40

for myself. I really do

36:42

enjoy her and find her interesting, but it's

36:45

way too overwhelming. You have that many songs

36:47

at once, like you guys said, I love

36:49

you guys.

36:50

Well, thank you everybody, Patreon

36:52

dot com, slash Perez

36:54

Hilton, and we'll see some of you

36:56

on Thursday for our show there.

36:58

If not, we.

36:59

Appretiate, respect, love,

37:02

and celebrate all of you.

37:04

Have a wonderful week.

37:06

Take care, everybody. Goodbye,