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Hello beautiful people and

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welcome back to Detroit,

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Michigan on this post

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draft spectacular Feel Good Friday, April 26,

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2021 this program

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starts now football That

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felt good. Yes it did. Yeah. Great to

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hear I can't believe

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these humans are here. We had no idea there was gonna be

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humans out here Great

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to see you. Hell yeah For

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shoot, I don't know what that sign said I

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thought this was shut down today So whenever

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we decided to do the show here on this Feel

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Good Friday live from Detroit It

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was strictly because Roger Goodell

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said he'd be able to come on live and in

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person That'll be happening at 1230. I thought this is

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gonna be closed No,

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no, no, no, no We

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thought there was gonna be no humans here I thought it

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was gonna be an empty block because round two doesn't start

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till later this evening Instead we got

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Detroit folks just kind of trickling in here It's

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great to see you. Thank you all so much Obviously

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the energy around Detroit has been fantastic. Last

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night was spectacular We were obviously lucky to

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do it alongside Bill Belichick who told stories

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and broke players down I

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didn't do it alone. Obviously I was alongside the

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toxic table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt

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Conman, you get a brand new quarterback for the

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Patriots. How'd you feel about last night? Incredible. I

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mean, it was one of those things that you

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dream about First of all, obviously sitting on a,

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you know, on a desk, you know, a panel

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if you will with Bill Belichick That is something

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that once I got back to my hotel room

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was like, okay, holy shit. Where's

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the lotion? Holy shit Yeah, do I

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have tissues? Do I have jerkins? Stuff

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like that. But no, it was incredible was

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a hell of a night getting a QB

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like Drake May Like I said yesterday never

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even had the thoughts of the possibility of

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getting that guy my entire life All

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of a sudden obviously last year didn't go as well.

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But we the consolation being a 6 4 230

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brick shit house who can throw the football and run

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the football. I mean, it's the stuff you dream That's

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literally what the draft is all about you get

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a player and all of a sudden wait, we're

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back boom boom Wait, we're in a new era.

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We stink. We're picking number three overall Gonna have

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to rebuild from within the crafts are making bad

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decisions for documentaries They've almost turned their fan base

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against them But then you draft a big handsome

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son of a bitch from North Carolina and all

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of a sudden it's like okay This guy can

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lead us to the promised list Oh and for

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Ty I know the Green Bay Packers one with

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a pick that you expected the entire time big

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tackle on Arizona Is that settled in and did

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you break your hand last night throwing a tantrum

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as mad? Mel when Cooper Dijean was not selected

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to the Green Bay Packers when he is still

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available on the board hands little Tandy

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I will say a pinky hurts pretty bad But

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no, I mean we're good And yeah after I

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kind of went to sleep and took off my

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Iowa Homer hat and kind of Digested what bill

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said about which was kind of glowing

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praise Hey, really like he did and then you

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hear good kids basically say like hey He has

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positional versatility things he can start at four different

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places on the O line So yeah, great pick.

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I mean obviously you got the guy in Jordan.

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Love need to protect him and who knows You

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know the Packers could still go get Cooper

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Dijean tonight. So I'm holding out hope

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that they'll get that done Jackie Robinson

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day potential Particular

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feel good Friday for the whites with Cooper Dijean

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one half of the hammer That's

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pretty cool one half of the hammer One

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half of the hammer Cowboys

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tone digs your tone the Steelers obviously bring in

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another ooze on the offensive line But what stuck

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out last night from draft our first round of

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the draft for you? Yeah, the Steelers are building

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the bloodline on the offensive line, which I acknowledge.

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Okay. Oh, yeah, we will acknowledge The

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bloodline is now Protecting Russell Wilson.

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Yep over there in Pittsburgh, which is also tweeting

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how much he loves Big Ben in like 2016

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2017 So that

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that one was just in the stars I

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loved what the Vikings did going up one pick from

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11 to 10 to get the quarterback They wanted okay,

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they could have sat there at 11. They could have

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risked it or whatever, but they know they wanted JJ

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McCarthy They knew there was quarterback Needy

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teams behind them that could have went up to 10 got a

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quarterback so they went up 11 to 10 to get the

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quarterback they wanted and then they they didn't mess around again they

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went up to from 23 to 17 I believe to to get

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Dallas Dallas

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Turner thank you so they they had guys that they

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definitely liked on their board guys that they definitely won

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on them and they did not mess around and they

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went up and made sure they got the guys that

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they wanted well the thing about JJ McCarthy is he's

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a known loser mmm hmm

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yep you

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said it yeah right literally all he

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does is where he is a

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couple of Ohio folks who have entered in

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here for night two of the NFL draft

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but JJ

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McCarthy like always does his win and he

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doesn't bitch he seems to be the consummate

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teammate yesterday he was doing his local media

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runs after getting drafted Wayne Gretzky actually called

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him and he played hockey now he goes

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to Minnesota it's like a perfect fit for

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Kevin O'Connell and then he gets a pillar

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on defense side Dallas Turner congrats to the

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Vikings and Quasi Cook and now a man

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who's the all-time leading tackler for the

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Green Bay Packers a college football

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national champion a Super Bowl champion

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a Ryder Cup winner a father

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of 10 the best jawline in

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sports media AJ

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Hawke AJ

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we're in Michigan obviously you've done a great

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reception last night when you think about the

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first round of draft last night what's the

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stuff to you pal I mean everyone's good talk

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about panics in Atlanta come on okay yeah

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appreciate I mean it weren't saying that a

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couple guys flicking me off and everything big

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Michigan stands I respect your passion I really

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do but I think the Giants honestly giving Daniel

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Jones some help and having faith confidence in him

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picking Malik neighbors there's a lot of talk

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before the draper yesterday I feel like oh

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JJ McCarthy there he's going boom they're gonna

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take him there's three quarterbacks available that went

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in the first after they picked it six

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and they decided to give Daniel Jones some

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some help and give him hey here's your year it's

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all on the line let's see if you could be

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our guy I'm excited to see what happens with Daniel

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Jones and day ball you know clock clock is on

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Malik neighbors you had a weapon that could take the

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top off a defense maybe they'll be able to do

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it no shake one what does it look like kind

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of a shit show over there from outside

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looking in but they can turn around you know

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Daniel Jones plays his best they have to believe

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that doesn't think yeah or it's gonna be a

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whole new Mars do song and dance about explaining

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to his friends why his team sucks again and

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they're in the cycle neighbors is a guy no

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matter what field he's playing on so we're excited

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to watch him now a man is a nine-year

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NFL vet big brain guy host of everything DB

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good D bad D and the NFL matchup show

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ladies and gentlemen Darius J butler's he

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bought big takeaway last night from the NFL

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job for you vote out of quarterback obviously we

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had six going to first round start with Caleb

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Drake Jayden and then obviously the surprise

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with pennies going JJ Bo all these guys were

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kind of connected to these teams pre-draft and they

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actually went there so I like but I really

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like the barriers at the top not really overthinking

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it only have four picks in the draft sticking

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that nine going with Rome they had it wrong

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they had to keep an alley Allen DeAndre Swift

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this all season so they're really giving Caleb all

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the weapons to succeed early and they got a

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good deep I mean we said it a bunch

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of times like Chicago feels like the perfect spot

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to be the number one overall pick if

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you're considered a generational talent defense good cultures

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good you got weapons off those line can

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they figure it out top NFC North though

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oh yeah top NFC North the story of

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the night though wasn't any of those things

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you mentioned it there Michael

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Pennick's getting drafted to the Atlanta Falcons at

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eight or whatever when they just paid

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her cousin 130 million dollars guaranteed in free agency

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literally a few weeks ago and it

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is awkward in Atlanta now I saw

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a panic celebrating with his family at

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sweet sunglasses on and nothing should take away

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from the night in which his dream come

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true he blew both ACLs both shoulders still

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became a top ten in a photographic a

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quarterback it's

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not panics as well this is just like

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the Jordan Love situation in Green Bay not

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Jordan Love situation now the difference between the

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Green Bay situation in the Atlanta situation is

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Green Bay had just got done going to

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the NFC Championship game for a Green Bay

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had a lot of success before the Jordan

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Love traffic and also afterwards Atlanta hasn't

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been in the playoffs since like 28-3 game happened

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or whatever. They stink. They're going a whole new

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era, whole new coaching staff, whole new everything. And

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they seemingly use a very valuable, even if you

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don't want to pick anybody that's going to make

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your team better this year, you can probably trade

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that thing and get a lot more if you

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want to add more pieces. Instead, they pulled the

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trigger on Michael Penix when Kirk Cousins is there.

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And then Kirk Cousins didn't know what was going

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to happen. Then there was an awkward give and

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take between Fontano and Rahim Morris, who we're big

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fans of, about talking to Kirk and, well, we're

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going to keep that private is reaction. It's like,

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okay, yeah, piss. Yeah, that's not right. Piss off

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for good reason. Joining us now is a man

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who has, I think, a lot

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of thoughts on the entire decision that was

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made down in Atlanta. Because remember, the guy

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that was sitting next to us last night

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allegedly didn't get the gig because people

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in the front office of Atlanta didn't necessarily

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want to lose their jobs because Bill Belichick,

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they know better than Bill Belichick. Bill actually

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wasn't in top three at one point. Fontano

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was the guy that was allegedly leading the entire

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charge. So to continue to add

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fuel to that fire, ladies and gentlemen,

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Brandon Confino and Bill Belichick, Michael

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Lombard. Lambo!

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Hey, these people are cheering for

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you. Lambo, they're cheering for you.

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Please take that. That's awesome. Bill Lyons, Bill

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Lyons, it's a great sports style. The

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great buddy Parker started the nickel defense.

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There's reliance on such great history. People

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don't realize what a great sports talent that's

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going on. It's amazing. The football

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team, it's unbelievable. And

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their uniforms, back to the old uniforms, the

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Tremendous to Al Davis, stole the silver from

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the Detroit Lions of their uniform. That's

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where it came from. So great talent. But

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let's go back to my buddy. Hold on,

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Lambo. They

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love Jared Goff up here. Jared Goff

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is the champ through the city. Yeah,

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because they don't have like a Detroit or

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like a lie. They don't have

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one of those. What up though? What up though? But

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no, there's no response. Oh, that's yeah. Oh yeah,

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I need that. There's no give and take. So

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it is literally just Jared. That

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is the chance and they love them here what

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MCDC's been able to do, what Holmes has been

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able to do, nothing short of remarkable. Let's get

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to Atlanta though because we've been watching your tweets,

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we've been covering the situation between Bill and Atlanta

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this pass-off season, who they're gonna go with. He

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was on a boat, then he was in the

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building, then he's not in the top three, then

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they make this decision with everybody having a football

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brain outside of Atlanta going the hell are they

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doing? What do you think, Longville? How do we

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get to this point and why do you think

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they ultimately made the decision? Well

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I was the only one quoted in the ESPN

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article because I was the only one willing to

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say it on the record everybody else hid behind

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themselves and we all know who was doing the

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talking there but let's go to the concept here.

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Look Michael Pennicks is a good player, that's not

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the obvious, that's not the conversation here. Michael

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Pennicks is a good player. But the

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job of a general manager, the job of

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a general manager is to prepare his team

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is to marry the free agent system into

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the draft and if you're

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Terry Supra winning GM Fotna, who's won

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21 games in three years okay

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since he's been in charge, if you're

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in that job you know in October

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November having watched Desmond Riddle play, watching

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Fela Honecki play, you need a quarterback

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and so you're going through all these

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quarterbacks. Remember, Mike D talked to

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Andy Reid and said we got to get this

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country for Houston, he's great, he did it in

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October. So you're doing that, that's

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part of your job. Your job is

11:21

to general manager is to look over

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the team and say these are the

11:25

needs and we've got to marry the

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free agent system to the draft. You're

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picking eighth overall, this is the second

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year in a row the Lata Falcons

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have used a luxury pick at the

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eighth pick overall. Last

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year they took Bijon Robinson, really good player,

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but Algier averaged five yards a carry and

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gained a thousand yards the year before. Like

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they didn't need another back, they needed a

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defensive trade technique. This team finished 27 enforcing

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turnovers, they couldn't get off the field when

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they need to, they have no pass rush.

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So now we come to the season. Alright,

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so I got no problem if you said

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in the offseason meetings that we're gonna

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pick the quarterback at 8. We know Michael Panix is a

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pretty good chance he's gonna be there at 8. Right?

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Why did I have to go to Arthur

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Blank and say, give me 90 million of

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your coin and let's go sign Kirk Cousins.

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Like, why would you do that? You

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imagine me going to Al Davis and say, hey,

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big Al, give me 90 million, let me go

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sign Kirk Cousins. And oh, by the way, I'm

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gonna draft Michael Panix at the 8th pick overall.

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Like, this just smacks at a lack of

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a plan. This just smacks at not

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trying to do your job as the

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general manager, tying things together. Like,

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don't come out there with a press conference and say,

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hey, if Michael has to sit 4 or 5 years,

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we'd be happy because we're winning. Well, hey, I hate

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to break the news to you, Terry, but if he's

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sitting 4 years, you still gotta pick up the 5th

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year option. And if he hasn't

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played, are you gonna do that? Like,

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every time the Falcons talk, they just

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hold deeper for themselves. No

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problem. No problem. Poor

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Kirk Cousins, he's got a no-trade clause

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in his contract. He signed a 3-year

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essentially deal there. Like, he never anticipated

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this happened, nor did anybody. Because

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why would you? He just put $90 million.

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Lambo, Dan Orlovsky said after sleeping on

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it, he said he could see why

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he did it. Because if Dan transitioned

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to another quarterback in 2 years... Smart.

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It's smart. What's wrong, Lambo? What's

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wrong? I

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mean, well, first of all, Dan's one of the great

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team builders of all time. I mean, I just want

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to put that out there. Okay. No one can build

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a team better than Dan. I mean, his math is

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ridiculous. There's only

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been 3 receivers that are bust since 2018. Jesus,

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okay. And he doesn't count Henry Ruggs because that

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wasn't off the field incident. Well, hey, Dan, why

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don't you go tell some owner that you drafted

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a guy that had off the field injury and

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see how that works out for you. See how

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long you keep your job. We'll talk to Dan

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in just a few hours. We will certainly talk

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to Dan. Look, here's the thing, Pat. You

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don't have a lot of money. Say you don't have a lot

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of money. And you go spend all

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your money on a second roll-out. Can

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you ever wear two Rolexes at the same

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time? Of course you can! You can't! You

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can only wear one Rolex. You can only

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play Kirk Cousins. Like it makes no sense.

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You just signed a luxury item

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and Big Danny signing off on it. Sure

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it makes sense. Of course he's

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got multiple Super Bowl winning caliber teams. He

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understands how to do it. He's promoting crafting

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wide receipts. Oh, that's a great pick. This

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is a great pick. At

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some point does somebody sit there and say

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the Kansas City Chiefs won a Super Bowl

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with their defense and no receivers. And

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they grow quarterback. Right? Does

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somebody ever say that? The highest paid receivers in

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the league so far have all been picked for

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the second day. Second

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round, third round, fourth round. Like none

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of this. It's unbelievable.

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The Colts, your Colts benefited from this.

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To get that pass rusher was one

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of the best picks in the draft.

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Seattle sits there with Murphy. They get

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the best three technique in the draft.

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This is two years in a row.

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The great Alana Falcons franchise has turned down

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a three technique. Now I can tell you

15:02

this. You go put your foot on a

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wall. You go tell me how hard it is

15:06

to find three techniques. They just don't show up

15:08

every day. And

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you turned them down two years in a row and

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you call yourself an architect of team building. It's

15:15

beyond my own. I had you. But you got

15:17

Danny yellow on your side and he's going to

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come out with another chart to tell you why.

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He might come out with another chart next hour.

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He'll be joining us in. I already told him

15:27

like, Hey, Dan, you're coming into hostile

15:29

water. Yeah. Whatever you come in here. Because this morning

15:31

he was up on the show is doing after

15:34

thinking on course. He's putting out

15:36

stuff that makes no sense at

15:38

all. Like at some point you've

15:40

got to understand the art of team building.

15:42

For example, okay, they talked the Raider way.

15:44

Okay. And I've been critical of this. Like,

15:46

does anybody understand the Raider way? There's one

15:49

man who knows the Raider way. His name's

15:51

Al Davis. Al Davis. I think

15:53

Brock Powers was a really good player. I really

15:55

do. But they can't block anybody. They don't have

15:57

any offensive linemen. They've got Colton Miller and then

15:59

nobody else. And they if they and

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so I would have always I would believe the

16:03

team is built from offensive and defensive linemen and

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That's what he picked. They would have picked Murphy They

16:08

would have picked Latua or he would have picked an

16:10

offensive tackle Not it because you can't get the ball

16:12

to the tight end You don't have a quarterback to

16:15

get you got Gardner Minshew and you got nobody who

16:17

could pro bar Yeah, Gardner Minshew is

16:19

a pro baller. Let's not forget that Let's

16:21

pivot away from the things that are obviously

16:23

pissing you off and we can't wait to

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talk to noted Detroit line quarterback Dan or

16:27

a lot of kids in the second out

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big Danny. Oh, no big Danny and

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Let's talk to new English Connor has a

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question for you. Lombo. Yeah, Lombo How did

16:38

you feel about the Patriots standing pat at

16:40

three kind of sticking to their guns taking

16:42

their guy the future Drake may and not

16:44

kind Of overthinking it almost screwing up because

16:46

as a New England fan people in New

16:48

England They couldn't be happier that they just

16:51

sat there took Drake May and didn't screw

16:53

anything Well, I think look

16:55

if the Elliott wolf was in

16:57

a tough spot because he knew that the Giants

16:59

wanted Drake May Right and so

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if he traded with the Giants at six He

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knew he was gonna lose Drake May and if

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he got to six He had to be able

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to get to four to be able to draft

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the next quarterback He liked whether it was JJ

17:11

McCarthy or whomever and I think it was McCarthy

17:13

So he didn't overthink it like if he could

17:15

have made the trade with the Giants and they

17:17

were offering a very good deal they'll probably deny

17:19

it but they were and He

17:22

turned that down because he couldn't get from

17:24

six back up to four and guarantee himself

17:26

a quarterback And so he just decided

17:28

to stay there and make the pick now the

17:31

key to the pick is going to come down to

17:33

They're gonna have to develop the quarterback. I mean, this

17:35

is really on Alex van't tell because he's the offensive

17:37

coordinator Ben McAdoo the former head coach of the Giants

17:39

is there as well. They're gonna have to develop them

17:41

They're gonna have to find the system. He's a year

17:44

away from being a player They're gonna

17:46

have to find the system that utilizes his skill

17:48

set to the best of their ability and they

17:50

have Jacoby Percent so they have a bridge quarterback.

17:52

They don't have a 90 million

17:54

dollar bridge. Okay Back

17:58

to Atlanta. We see what you're doing there There's

18:00

going to be a lot of that throughout the day,

18:02

I think, by all parties. Ty has a question for

18:04

you, Lambo. Yeah, Lambo, heading into the draft. A lot

18:06

of speculation on Brandon Iuk and whether or not he

18:09

was going to get moved or what was

18:11

going to happen there. And then the 49ers

18:13

draft Ricky Pearsall. Yeah, he's there going crazy

18:15

right now. The 49ers draft Ricky Pearsall,

18:17

and now a lot of people are speculating, hey,

18:19

maybe Deebo's on the move. There's been rumors that

18:21

New England has reached out and seen

18:24

about his availability. Do you think the Niners

18:26

drafting Pearsall kind of points to the fact

18:28

that either Iuk or Deebo is potentially going

18:30

to be gone before the start of next

18:32

season? And were you the first one to

18:34

say Deebo potentially getting traded here publicly when

18:36

everybody was talking about Iuk potentially? I didn't

18:38

mention that because I think, look, you can't

18:40

pay all these receivers all the money. And

18:43

I'm sure Dan probably could find a way to do it,

18:45

but you can't. You can't pay everybody all

18:47

the money. And so Deebo's making good money,

18:49

and he's under contract. They need Iuk because

18:51

they need an outside receiver. That's one of

18:53

the things. The 49ers passing game is inside

18:55

out. And when they have Iuk,

18:57

who averaged over 17 yards of catch last year,

18:59

making plays on the outside, it opens up the

19:01

middle of the field. They need that. And

19:04

look, it's hard to trade them. I mean, once a

19:06

dunesay went off the board, there was no other receiver

19:08

that the 49ers probably felt like could

19:10

play on the outside and win. And

19:12

Deebo, for as great as Deebo is, and

19:14

he's really great. Don't get me wrong. Deebo

19:17

is a running back that plays receiver. Deebo needs to

19:19

run into the middle of the field. And

19:21

he's so tough and talented with the ball in

19:23

his hands that maybe he could be an attractive

19:25

player. You listen to offers. They

19:27

can't, in this draft, they're not going to be able

19:29

to replace an outside receiver for that. And

19:32

that's something they need. So I think they're going to

19:34

have to really look at it. They're

19:36

in the same situation the Bengals are in.

19:38

They pay T Higgins, but they have to

19:40

pay Jamar Chase. And the cost of

19:42

these wide receivers is going through the roof, right?

19:44

We saw AJ Brown get huge money. Congrats, AJ.

19:46

We saw Amah send Brown to a huge money.

19:49

You can't have four of them. You can't have

19:51

two. Two drags to him. Yeah,

19:53

the money's only going

19:55

up. That's why the Liget trade for

19:58

pick 32. Bellajuk was

20:00

like, that's a fifth year option type move there to

20:02

get that wide receiver because five years from now, let's

20:04

say it works out for him. Let's say he does

20:06

very, very well for Carolina. He goes on, that might

20:09

be 45, 50 million a year for

20:11

wide receivers five years from now, depending upon

20:14

inflation and everything

20:16

else going on in the world that

20:19

I understand, but somehow everything is up

20:22

that way. No matter what. No matter what. So

20:24

the fifth year option not a bad deal, but

20:26

it's like whenever he gets drafted, it appears sold

20:28

to the Niners. The immediate combo

20:30

from Bill Belichick was like, well, a way to

20:32

get cheaper is draft somebody. It's

20:34

just an easy way to get cheaper. It almost

20:36

like kind of pieces it together. And then John

20:38

Lynch even said, or Shanahan even said, let's

20:41

not rule out a trade too. Let's not do that.

20:43

So will that happen? And you just

20:45

talked about it, how inside receiver easier to trade.

20:47

Does that happen this weekend still? Is there still

20:49

chatter about that with Debo you think? Or is

20:51

this for after the draft with teams that might

20:53

have a need? Well,

20:55

I think it would probably be sometime after the

20:58

draft or maybe today, you know, I mean, Buffalo

21:00

certainly needs an inside receiver. That's the one thing

21:02

they don't have. Could they trade them to Buffalo?

21:04

I mean, Buffalo basically said in the draft, they

21:06

didn't like the receiver. I mean, because they traded

21:08

away from two receivers. They traded away from Worthing,

21:11

they traded away from Leggett. So

21:13

they did, they made those trades. Then they

21:15

traded through their competitor. They made a conscious

21:17

effort. Their board said they didn't like those

21:19

players. Now it's expensive. They see

21:21

the problem isn't trading the players, it's trading the

21:23

player in the contract. Those two things are hard

21:25

to do, right? Because you've got to

21:28

get the, you've got to have the money in

21:30

the cap room to handle it. So I'm sure

21:32

that, look, Debo is such a good player. A

21:34

lot of teams want Debo. A lot of teams

21:36

want IU. There's plenty of them. So you're going

21:38

to have to demand. Debo's got a cost. And

21:40

the Niners, the Niners are smart because they understand

21:43

that you can't have all this money. The only,

21:45

the team in the league that has a really

21:47

good receiving core, the Green Bay Packers, and they're

21:49

27 in terms of money spent. Why? Because

21:52

all their receivers are draft picks. Second day draft

21:54

picks. Very young group. Here's

21:56

the best wide receivers currently available to

21:58

get drafted. I got, lad mcconkey

22:00

up there and ad mitchell still

22:02

available keone colman is a freak

22:04

jaylen paul put up numbers alongside

22:06

uh... doomsday as did mcmillan there's

22:09

one point but doomsday paul and

22:11

mcmillan we're all averaging a hundred yards a

22:13

game now that might be why panics chair

22:17

top ten because he had three wide receivers

22:19

averaging a hundred yards at one point troyd

22:21

franklin brennan rice and uh... another road out

22:23

of michigan roman wilson still available out there

22:25

excited to see the weapons like there's a

22:28

chance to bring a baby we get to

22:30

come back up and they put out the behind

22:32

the scenes video watching

22:34

diligently on the wide receivers he's

22:37

always pretty deep to watch the river such your

22:39

point do we need to go right now

22:41

in the first round he traded with the

22:44

chief so and they get a savior worthy like it

22:46

was a reward the ends up doing full-time

22:49

rekill song and dance to the bills to

22:51

have in the playoffs it'll be a lot of people are

22:53

like you literally have opened the door for them to do

22:56

this there's a thought that

22:58

maybe second or around we could still get better

23:00

actually work good for the bills i'm happy for

23:02

the box got a question for you on

23:04

both their long but you have to get out of green

23:06

bay packers were received a core kato

23:08

wins up to drive him to the

23:10

top of draft in that bears receiving

23:13

trio ken nyla now uh... dj morris

23:15

career right

23:17

now which is also what the bears

23:19

did on day one well i think the

23:22

bearish activity i think they should have been murphy the three-check maker left to

23:24

the defense of and i i i i i i i i i i

23:26

i i i i i i i i i here's the thing there

23:28

is i don't know how many plays you can

23:30

get a doing say on the field you got

23:32

you've got a keen and alan he's gonna play

23:34

twelve hundred plays you got the day more he's

23:37

gonna play twelve hundred plays if you're gonna be

23:39

an eleven personnel team which means you're gonna put

23:41

a doing say on the field and somebody's going

23:43

to be in the slot your your plan in

23:45

chicago bad weather when brain you know buffalo tried

23:47

to be an eleven team for most of the

23:49

time and they shifted to a twelve he because

23:51

you're going to have to have some way to

23:53

run the ball weak side and your slot receivers

23:55

got a block and so how many plays he's

23:58

a really good player how many plays to get out Where

24:00

is where the study The Bears Eve of

24:02

was events is predicated on that from it.

24:04

If you got another Russia read alongside a

24:06

swear word inside Russia like Murphy, that's yeah.

24:09

August. To me I thought that was the

24:11

better. Fear I thought to me, how many

24:13

receivers can you have your say it out.

24:15

A ton of money. You pay a Dj

24:17

more sort of money. We know the receiver

24:19

Market School on off management is a really

24:21

good player for the defensively should have been

24:23

addressed there for me, but they went to

24:25

the receiver and now they've got really mad

24:28

skills. They still have a whole at. Right

24:30

tackle and they protect well enough for killer.

24:38

Or three, really? Truly

24:42

inside us again. it's something you can't

24:44

pass off and that are hard to

24:46

find. Yeah I I since the fall

24:48

of Rome dunes a in came of

24:50

don't Chicago Going into the draft was

24:52

wild that it has more to they

24:55

were hanging out. I guess working altogether

24:57

is like saying how do you think

24:59

there's any chance that I was going

25:01

to pan out the way did smell

25:03

the guy young they got weapons on

25:05

a happy for. The Best. Legitimately happy

25:07

to the bears up here. And

25:09

Caleb A. Brand

25:19

new line stance. Saga

25:21

Bear Now now now

25:24

Stairs Gaga Bears are

25:26

there. Other.

25:32

Allies. Earlier

25:39

job he has marcus or

25:41

been also the was our

25:43

last question your lama we

25:45

pursue to go ahead Aj

25:47

Hawk mobile phone excuse twelve.

25:49

Sean Payton the Broncos pick him up. some faded

25:51

came on. Next you explain to the whole process.

25:53

would he make it that take him how to

25:55

take his Nfl career. Looks like. Others

25:58

look something. evaluate as a

26:00

quarterback in the draft. I mean, he was

26:02

in Dallas when they found Tony Romo as

26:04

a free agent. You know, he wanted Patrick

26:06

Mahomes, and he just doesn't fly by night

26:09

say I'm gonna take this guy. He sees

26:11

something in both nets that a lot of

26:13

people probably can't, and what he

26:15

wants is a quarterback who's gonna execute the

26:17

offense the way he wants it executed, down

26:19

to precision life is what Drew Brees did.

26:21

And I think Knicks can handle that, and

26:23

I think when you go, if you're a

26:25

Broncos fan, you gotta put all the trust

26:28

that Sean Payton understands how to not only

26:30

coach a quarterback, he knows how to develop

26:32

a quarterback. And that's the key thing. He'll

26:34

understand it, and Bo Nix has got a

26:37

vast experience. You wanna take a quarterback with

26:39

a lot of experience. That's what goes back

26:41

to Panics. I mean, Panics is ready to

26:43

play now, and unfortunately, he's not

26:45

gonna have to be able to play. When you get

26:48

a quarterback with this experience, you wanna be able to

26:50

utilize them and grow with them and build a team

26:52

around them. So, look, I have faith in Sean, and

26:54

he knows the quarterback and knows how to get the

26:56

most out of him. Just like Kevin O'Connell, I think

26:59

we'll do a good job with JJ McCarthy. I

27:01

think you've gotta marry the two together to

27:03

see how it all works out. All right,

27:05

well, Lamba, we appreciate you so much for

27:07

joining us. I heard last night, through the

27:09

grapevine, that maybe we might have a party

27:11

in Ocean City this summer where we're gonna

27:13

watch Bergen Catholic play IMG, and you stay

27:15

at the house, do whatever you want. We'll

27:17

take care of it all. I heard that.

27:19

I heard we made decisions that we're Airbnb

27:21

in your house, so we appreciate you. Yes,

27:23

you got it. It's all clear. We're good.

27:25

Hey, does Bill have some steak in IMG

27:27

Academy? He was putting him over last night.

27:29

Big, big, big. They're a phenomenal run here,

27:31

like five years straight. I know. It's amazing. They're

27:33

big top 10 picks. But he loves, look, he

27:36

loves high school football. That would be a great

27:38

event. And, you know, Ocean City, Google, you should

27:40

have your guys Google, Ocean City High School football

27:42

field. It's only one of two fields in the

27:45

United States that looks over the Atlantic Ocean. Oh,

27:48

over there in Jersey, too? Oh, man. Yeah, you

27:50

love it. Oh, my God. We'll get you all,

27:52

we'll get you taken care of, Matt. Don't worry.

27:54

We'll get the whole crew here. You're the man.

27:56

We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Paisano Michael Lombardi.

27:58

Hey, Lamo. Now,

28:02

without further ado, ladies

28:05

and gentlemen, the commissioner

28:07

of the NFL. Don't

28:09

listen to them. Roger,

28:12

can you shut your mouth? I

28:14

appreciate it. Thank you so much for joining

28:16

us. Don't listen to them,

28:18

Roger. They're idiots. They don't know.

28:20

They don't know. They don't

28:22

know. You're our commissioner. Don't

28:25

worry about the bums. I'm sorry. Okay,

28:30

so my take has

28:33

always been when you're the commissioner of a league, you're

28:35

always going to make a decision that's going to inevitably

28:37

piss off some fan base. You notice that? Yeah, yeah,

28:39

yeah. I think there's been something that has happened, but

28:41

I think what you have done with our league is

28:43

nothing short of phenomenal. So first of all, I think

28:45

all of us would like to say thank you for

28:47

the direction. I wish the NFL

28:49

has gone bigger, better than ever. We had 275,000 people

28:51

here yesterday for the draft. It

28:55

wasn't like that before. It's under your

28:57

leadership. So from us to you, we'd like to give you a

28:59

gift that we know you're a big fan of. Ladies

29:02

and gentlemen, Peanut M&M for our

29:04

commission. Obviously,

29:06

you can take this while we're on set. You

29:09

can take these with you. You can take them home. How about

29:11

I do, sir? I got a gift for you. You ready? Yeah,

29:14

I like that. With

29:17

the 222nd pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts select

29:19

Pat McAfee. Hunter,

29:26

where's your opinion? Oh, you are! Come

29:29

on in, baby! Get in here!

29:31

Thank you, man! I'll pick him up. Thank you, Ross.

29:35

I got it. There's your card, baby.

29:37

That's real. That's awesome. I've been

29:39

keeping that for, what is it, 15 years? You

29:42

had it in your back pocket this whole time. This

29:44

is cool. Thank you for this. Okay. So

29:47

On this note, the reason why we learned about

29:50

your Peanut M&M is because the COVID draft, when

29:52

you were sitting in that leather chair, and then

29:54

you had your Peanut M&Ms. But If we think

29:56

about not only battling through that and navigating that,

29:58

but making the draft. What it is now and

30:01

I know there's probably a vision of yours to

30:03

make it a spectacle, but it certainly has become

30:05

that I mean to us and five thousand people

30:07

in is it is absurd. Slidell on just thirty

30:09

two pets being announced on a states. the ratings

30:11

are going to be bigger than any playoff game

30:13

it's happening started. You know the draft would be

30:15

awesome if he traveled it and at what point

30:17

did you start initiating that into to see? this

30:19

is a see this happen have had? I don't

30:21

either. I would I be kidding if I thought

30:23

it was going to be as big as if.

30:26

The Rowdies though we felt like we could be

30:28

bigger than we were and. Radio City but it

30:31

was a real risk to do it because

30:33

it was really popular. You're in the media

30:35

martin we had a we had a great

30:37

as eventually ness what would happen as Radio

30:39

City actually for the holidays your when said

30:41

you can have a graphical jim. Ross

30:45

I. Went On

30:48

Earth. Okay, so I. Know

30:50

it was will we are. We were thinking

30:53

about a very hard and we really believe

30:55

that would work and then that's is forced

30:57

the hand and we just said okay was

30:59

armed robbery and with that wouldn't want to

31:01

see Saga the first two years and they

31:03

diverge. John Cena not really in Nashville and

31:05

me national almost like the gold standard for

31:08

at all and than what we saw last

31:10

night he has been fantastic City such a

31:12

pet is a big deal of course of

31:14

are you can I do is it feels

31:16

like he thought of found your sweet spot

31:18

in cities to go through these blue collar

31:21

cities like Philly, Detroit, Cleveland, Kansas City like

31:23

that as an assassin the football football football

31:25

fan so up did you fall that. Are

31:28

out of the perfect location. For the draft

31:30

and free by next year. One of the

31:33

most know our for. Media

31:42

is it from Pennsylvania who is trying really

31:44

really hard for the draft, the Rapid Act

31:46

and we now it's right now the Zebra.

31:52

Vereen of their in the Midst of ceremony know

31:54

it makes it so that makes be coming soon.

31:56

So they sell a new just like. A Super

31:59

Bowls. The bidding process who

32:01

are actually there's almost as much demand for

32:03

the draft is. There is considerable problem because

32:05

it's so many cities can't host the Super

32:07

Bowl but they tend to the draft with

32:09

is getting the point. Now where the draft

32:11

is is it is not the same way

32:14

but for don't for you to yourself raw

32:16

stuff like it saves us We have to

32:18

talk about what's potentially happening We get to

32:20

experience at the fall off the drama It

32:22

is perfect Now what you guys have been

32:25

able to master I think whatever it was

32:27

for sundials twelve months a year the Nfl

32:29

as compensation. Said I know that whenever

32:31

you took over as commissioner allegedly university

32:33

publicly but the way was understood is

32:35

like you laid out a plan to

32:37

the owners about house is where I

32:39

think the Nfl from to through this

32:42

where I didn't order to get your

32:44

European expansion. obviously that's use. All games

32:46

in England for now in Germany are

32:48

similar to go other places South America

32:50

receive Brazil our in Brazil Jonas what's

32:52

not everything is up into the right

32:54

for the Nfl ratings. Money, sponsorship, eyeballs,

32:56

interest or throws like what is that

32:58

you have another ten. Year plan and

33:00

continue to grow when it seems like everything

33:03

else is plateauing in the world knows sports

33:05

world where I think the no more things

33:07

to keep your him again right if the

33:09

games as and say strong that I think

33:11

all those things become more challenging force we

33:14

really do believe we can be your gua

33:16

was worth so i see a swing. At

33:19

least sixteen games on the road is

33:22

some point on. okay, and an international

33:24

market there may be centers out what

33:26

I see us getting. There's some points.

33:28

will a franchise ever happen? Or division.

33:30

maybe? I think that's beyond ten

33:32

years of severely. Got

33:35

a lot of challenges competitive with the logistics.

33:37

I think we can solve a competitive side

33:39

he gets. his son and I have been

33:41

a regular season say okay see how are

33:44

you going to London? that's a rough on

33:46

our soil, my own eyes or whatever the

33:48

middle of the season in and one once

33:50

have a home base for work out of

33:52

trials and to do that and we talked

33:54

about that and next so that if you

33:57

put your playoff game center us market. Citizens.

34:00

Martin said stuff. Realize the I've seen you

34:02

talked about. The game been great and this

34:04

is my last question for the boys I

34:06

assume have some as well. We

34:09

know you hate for for. Hims

34:14

rocket raccoon we got we got a

34:16

new kicked off com We have a

34:18

video of Rotten or Bill Belichick talking

34:20

that will be released on Monday where

34:23

they he does address everything but for

34:25

this particular conversation whatever you get the

34:27

data and analytics and you realize like

34:29

okay. We can make our game safer for

34:31

keep it explosive. seems that so where the

34:33

decision making something from and you hear all

34:35

the people are more say in like blue

34:37

collar says but it's football cities in the

34:39

also people say a word order to gain

34:41

Microsoft can be football anymore so how much

34:43

is that way into the factor the conversation

34:45

and how much is it like we need

34:47

hit save for such as game can live

34:49

forever for divisiveness not easy and only one

34:51

I've and I get to say the and

34:54

Rudy who I was probably of coaster anybody

34:56

with but and I spoke to him every

34:58

day but we'd argue every day on this.

35:00

Issue because he was. he was more of

35:02

a purist right and he said this is

35:04

in football and eight on my argument is

35:06

it is for policy is still a physical

35:09

game These guys are faster and more athletic.

35:11

We don't need those shots to the head

35:13

what we need we don't need the as

35:16

the techniques have We seen that the hip

35:18

thrusts yeah towards the absolutely and Jim Harbaugh

35:20

did that to me in the hallway the

35:22

annual meetings because this is we heard about

35:25

it every former football players like Prozac A

35:27

we don't give nobody thought like don't insult

35:29

Settled in and I saw Harbaugh, June and

35:31

all like what are your thoughts on school

35:34

football.on the have from south have been taken

35:36

out and I just needed to happen any

35:38

demonstrated to me what was the like referral

35:41

my back to that he threw his his

35:43

youth through his body on the back of

35:45

my legs. Seems like we just need eliminate.

35:49

The nuts like it. It's not that many

35:51

place of your Mmr officers start to happen.

35:54

some for think the surface and a

35:56

you don't have not only are there

35:59

more injuries divorce severe injuries. Guys are

36:01

out for a season, maybe in a career. So

36:03

they lead to very significant injuries. And it doesn't

36:05

happen that often. We've got to coach it out,

36:07

we've got to educate it out, but we may

36:09

have to officiate it out or find it out.

36:12

Yeah, so probably find it out, right? That's what

36:14

everybody's talking about. I think in the initial phase,

36:16

it's an adjustment for everybody, right? The coaches, the

36:18

players, the officials, all of us are going to

36:20

have to adjust to it a little bit. But

36:23

that's always the way it works. So if you

36:25

guys think about like, if one of those gets

36:27

called in the fourth quarter, for

36:30

Kansas City, let's say, for Kansas City,

36:33

the out, you know what it's

36:35

going to be as loud as hell that that's

36:37

a judgment call. It wasn't called earlier was a

36:39

fine this time. Don't you think you're kind of

36:42

adding to potential, I don't want to say discrepancies,

36:44

but at least a little bit of fodder for

36:46

these people that'll get very loud about something. I

36:48

think the way we'll deal with it with the

36:50

officials is if it's very clear and obvious, got

36:53

it should throw it on the edge. That's not

36:55

what we're looking for, because they're still training their

36:57

eyes. And so we're

37:00

looking at that we can deal with it as

37:02

fine. And hopefully that'll get it out of the

37:04

game very quickly. Also, just like you guys did

37:06

with the quarterback set early in the

37:08

season, it was like, or the shots in the

37:10

head early in the season was like boom, boom,

37:12

boom, boom. And we're all bitching like, no, football.

37:14

Why don't we do

37:17

it? And the body weight on the quarterback with another one. That's

37:21

a tough. Who doesn't hear about it much

37:23

anymore? Or in the rooms when these rules

37:25

are coming up, like are there players, former

37:27

players, like exactly who are in these rooms?

37:30

In the rooms back in their office? Yeah, when

37:32

the guys like Troy Vincent running.

37:34

So I mean, the vast majority of our

37:36

guys are players who played a lot of

37:39

years. We got, I think last time I

37:41

looked, we had a player command. It was

37:43

over 100 years experience sitting in the room.

37:45

No, I heard there's no football guys. I'm

37:48

not putting myself in there. Yeah. Hey, Connor's

37:50

got a question for you. Yeah. First, I

37:52

want to thank you on behalf of everyone

37:54

for taking Christmas day. Presence

38:00

will be so much better with

38:02

some football on the TV. At

38:05

what point did you decide like, hey, I get

38:07

it, Adam Silver. Did you call him? Did you

38:09

say, sorry, but this is ours now? Were we

38:11

speaking business from you? What was

38:13

that conversation and when did you know, like, yeah,

38:15

we have to play games. On course, it's every

38:17

year. And Black Friday now has a game. Yeah,

38:19

I know. I think we've looked for those opportunities

38:21

where we can create an event out of it.

38:23

And, you know, holidays are, that's what we do.

38:26

Thanksgiving has been our biggest day of

38:28

football for years. And Troy, he's got

38:30

14 million every year. And

38:32

they help create it. But, you know,

38:35

we thought, I think we averaged

38:37

30 million people for the Christmas games over

38:39

the last four or five years. So for

38:41

us, that's where our fans are. So

38:44

I don't ask permission for that. We go where the

38:46

fans are. Hell yeah. No, we're going to go and

38:48

we're going to find a way to satisfy that. It

38:50

was a little more challenging this year with the Wednesday.

38:53

But what we're proving here, we can

38:55

do this Sunday to Thursday. No health

38:58

consequences whatsoever. The data does not show

39:00

that. So Wednesday, Saturday works. So

39:02

we're going to have four teams playing on

39:04

Saturday. We'll mix them up and play

39:06

them again on Christmas Day. Okay, so I have a question

39:08

about games. We went from 16 to

39:10

17 games. Yeah. And

39:13

we're only on the internet when this happened. So

39:15

I don't know if it made it to your office or

39:17

not. As soon as it happened, I was like, okay, this

39:19

is a clear opening to 18 games. And

39:22

then if you add an extra bye week in

39:24

there, which I don't know if that's been discussed,

39:26

now we got 20 weeks, 20 primetime games, let

39:28

alone whatever other days we're going to. Now

39:31

the NFLPA is always going to fight against having more games.

39:33

Is there a plan to continue to expand? Because

39:36

17 games feels good now. Like at the beginning, I think a

39:38

lot of players and I don't want to talk for in a

39:40

locker room. There's probably a lot of offensive linemen and things

39:43

like that are telling me to shut the hell up. But

39:45

as fans, it's like 17 games has

39:47

just become like status quo. Is

39:49

there a thought of adding another one? Maybe adding

39:52

another bye week so we can get more exposure,

39:54

more TV deals, or are we good

39:56

at 17 right now? Well, I think we're good at 17

39:58

now, but listen, we're. looking at how we

40:00

continue. I'm not a fan of the preseason. I

40:03

don't think we need to waste the time, right, and

40:05

energy. I don't buy it and I don't think these

40:07

guys like it. Well they have to spend four points

40:09

for tickets for those kids. No,

40:12

they're actually discounted now. So thank you for doing

40:14

that. Thank you for doing that. Thank you. Thank

40:16

you. Fire our command. Thank you. But

40:19

the reality is, you know, I think

40:21

I'd rather replace a preceding game of the regular

40:23

season any day. That's just picking quality,

40:25

right? So if we got to 18 and 2, that's not

40:27

an unreasonable thing.

40:31

The other thing it does, which I thought you were going

40:33

to, is that ends up on

40:36

President's Day weekend, which is a three-day

40:38

weekend which makes the Sunday night and

40:40

then you have Monday off. So that's...

40:43

Wow. Now we're cooking. See,

40:45

now we're cooking. Can you talk to the president about

40:47

having the Monday after Super Boston? We

40:49

need that. Yeah, we saw you at that oversight

40:52

committee when I was really excited for you to

40:54

get in there. Yeah, it was fun. I've called

40:56

you good old one guy. One

40:59

guy. One guy. One guy. One guy. One guy. I've

41:02

said this for a long time and it's very real. You're

41:05

one of the greatest speakers, four tours,

41:07

that has ever existed. And I

41:09

figured that out whenever you had to come to all

41:11

the rooms, all the themes, right before the lockout. And

41:13

you still... Oh, I remember it. We just had it

41:15

in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a hot

41:18

room. That room was a hot room. That

41:20

was a very hot room. And you handled

41:22

it though. And then we walked out of there

41:24

and I'm like, damn, that guy's one of the

41:26

greatest speakers I've ever heard in my entire

41:29

life. Somehow put the fire out and then we

41:31

watch you do it. Why do you think commissioner

41:33

is the job that you were meant for? Why

41:35

do you think you've done the job that you've

41:37

done? Now, not every decision has been perfect. I

41:39

assume you look back and there's some stuff where

41:41

you're like, made a mistake here, misjudged this, should

41:43

have done different. You're not going to be perfect.

41:45

But why do you think you've had the success

41:47

that you've had at the commissioner role? And what

41:49

is day to day for you, just trying to

41:51

figure out how we continue to grow the game?

41:53

Listen, I think the first thing that I've always

41:55

had was a true understanding of

41:57

what the commissioner's role was because people...

42:00

Roselle was really my mentor. I mean, at the end

42:02

of the day, that's where I got into business and

42:04

I think he's the greatest commissioner there's

42:06

ever been in sports. But it's

42:09

also, you gotta have that passion for the

42:11

game and you gotta feel like that's

42:14

family. Like I've gotta do everything I can to make

42:16

the game the best for these guys,

42:18

our partners, and that's

42:20

the starting point. So every one of your

42:22

decisions is in the best long-term interest of

42:24

the NFL. The

42:27

second thing, the challenges. Yeah.

42:30

You know, I think the challenges for us is

42:32

dealing with success. I said that since

42:34

I became commissioner. When I went in for, I guess

42:38

my 15 minute conversation with the

42:40

owners before they selected commissioner, I think

42:42

the biggest challenge is you get a complacent and

42:44

you start thinking that success is gonna continue because

42:47

you've got to stay ahead of things. You gotta

42:50

keep getting better. You gotta keep looking for new

42:52

things to do and that includes

42:54

making the game safe. That includes

42:56

going international, that includes

42:59

making it new platform. It

43:02

includes trying to look at a better

43:04

season structure where you're giving them better

43:07

quality rather than lesser quality. You've

43:09

done a fantastic job. I mean, they'll boo you,

43:11

everybody's gonna boo you. It's all fun though. Yeah,

43:13

yeah. Funner than you. Funner

43:15

than you. You? And

43:19

whatever, so whenever we say that you

43:21

have to answer to 31 billionaires, how

43:24

accurate is that? 32, well you're getting that kind of

43:26

green bank? Yeah. Doesn't

43:28

count. Good

43:31

pop, there's a green bank. I didn't get it.

43:33

I didn't get it. Yeah, no. No,

43:36

no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See,

43:38

that is not gonna happen. No, you know, I don't

43:40

actually think that way. I actually think I answer to

43:42

them. I think I answer to the

43:46

media partners. I think I answer the players. I

43:48

think I answer to the owners too. The

43:51

idea for me is to try to keep everyone happy.

43:53

I always say that my biggest job is not to

43:55

piss off more than 24 owners in a given day.

43:57

Yeah. There you go. Quick vote,

43:59

everybody. basketball, hockey. I'm hearing

44:01

a lot about officials and all of those

44:03

guys are full time. My

44:08

only point to that is this is

44:10

a human game. It's a

44:12

fast game. They're people like

44:14

you and I. They make mistakes. For

44:17

us the way to correct it is to

44:19

try to add technology. So replay assist is

44:21

something we're bringing even further in this year.

44:24

Coach Belichick was one of the

44:26

biggest proponents. He's got another one which we hear. He'll tell

44:29

you on the show. But he

44:31

says it every year and I think we're

44:33

going gradually more comfortable with that to allow

44:35

the officials more information when they make decisions.

44:38

We've heard after further discussion by refs on

44:40

the field last year that's the beam down.

44:42

That could be a pool

44:44

but more than likely someone's in his ear. So

44:47

you see the XFL do that and other leagues do

44:49

that and then you think you're a little bit, maybe

44:51

it's a little bit of a precedent type thing. How

44:54

do we ease into that? That's

44:56

something we've been doing in the last several

44:58

years because there were always very strict rules of

45:00

replay. We always wanted to

45:02

be avoiding subjective calls. It

45:05

had to be an objective call. We've now

45:07

moved a little bit further with that. But

45:09

it was really more, they wanted the call to

45:12

be made by the referee on the field. And

45:14

it still is but we're giving the referee more input.

45:17

Assistance. Yeah, a little bit more. Whether it's the

45:19

replay official or whether it's somebody in New York

45:22

that's looking down and says, I saw

45:24

that. It's put out of bounds of three. Got it. And

45:27

you missed it. The idea is here

45:29

to be consistent in efficiency and

45:31

not avoid those errors that are

45:33

game changing. Yeah. You know,

45:35

officiating is part of the game. Well, the issue

45:37

is like I see it in 8K at my

45:39

house. I'm seeing it in an 8K in super

45:41

slow motion. And the ref wasn't even

45:43

allowed to look up at the Jumbotron for certain times.

45:45

That's correct. Yeah, they weren't even allowed to see it.

45:48

So the entire stadium of 70,000 people, he's watching a

45:50

zoomed in mistake that is in there. So I'm happy

45:52

that you guys are embracing technology because I think, you

45:54

know, if you use it as a tag team partner,

45:56

as opposed to it's trying to correct you, the game's

45:58

going to get better. But I do appreciate it. But

46:01

you also point out one other thing which technology we

46:03

see more today than we could see I mean you

46:05

go back and look at a film 20 years ago

46:13

How much louder has it gotten I guess

46:15

the gripes with the rest or lack of

46:17

full-time dress with the growth of sports betting

46:19

Because obviously sports betting people talking about script

46:21

Taylor Swift showing up the game Oh, yeah

46:23

happen. How much louder has it gotten in

46:25

your office with the growth of that? I

46:28

haven't felt that at all I

46:30

think for us it's always just constantly what

46:33

it is we need to do to make the game better Obviously

46:36

when you have sports betting and this legalized

46:38

it was illegal for time. So we still

46:40

protected integrity We didn't

46:42

support making it legal the

46:44

Supreme Court made the decision. We gotta adjust to

46:46

that and when we did You

46:49

do have to be partnering with some of

46:51

these partners because they actually give us access

46:54

to information That can

46:56

detect something before it really becomes a problem

46:58

And so we get a lot of information

47:00

by being involved there people think that

47:02

you know Flicking

47:04

with our previous position, but we just have

47:06

to adjust to whatever the law is We

47:09

were anytime though like the NBA has had

47:11

to deal with it with one of the

47:13

refs Tim Donahue I think like ten years

47:15

ago and the John T. Porter

47:17

just happened just a couple weeks ago That

47:20

ruins it for all of us. I think like eat us

47:22

as former players the same thing whenever you Gave

47:25

a season-long band to Calvin Ridley I think

47:27

there's a lot of people comparing that to

47:29

like other punishments that is taking place It's

47:31

like that one everybody that's involved with football

47:33

understands if we mess this up

47:35

It messes the whole the integrity of the game

47:37

could not ever be questioned Even though it always

47:40

will be because of the outcomes of sport and

47:42

why sport is so awesome is because anything can

47:44

happen But like if there's any proven shit like

47:46

that it can ruin everything and obviously we all

47:49

understand that without question if people think there's an

47:51

influence On the game other than the players on

47:53

that field we're in trouble. Well

47:55

Taylor Swift. We know yeah, that's a different kind

47:57

of inflow a

48:01

lot of jokes are going

48:04

to kill you and obviously

48:06

the internet talked about your

48:08

reaction to Taylor

48:17

Swift all of a sudden becoming a part of

48:19

the NFL family. Oh yeah, also on the reigning

48:21

Super Bowl champions, one of the most famous players

48:23

we have and somehow in a

48:26

suite that has four cameras on it every

48:28

single prime time game and now a demographic

48:30

got exposed to football. I saw a lot

48:32

of tweets from like dad saying, my daughter

48:34

watched more NFL football with me this weekend

48:36

than she ever had because Taylor Swift, a

48:39

lot of the internet was saying Roger Goodell

48:41

sitting at home through

48:43

the mirror about this. Well they thought it was part

48:45

of the script. Yes, right. Well

48:47

then you want to talk to her. Then you want to talk to her. I

48:49

don't know. But as

48:51

that's happening, you think to yourself, like obviously as

48:54

a commissioner of league, this is good for the

48:56

league that the biggest superstar on earth right now

48:58

is interested. But when it starts happening and you

49:00

start hearing the noise, what is the reaction from you

49:02

guys at the office? And are you thinking like we'll

49:05

try not to mess this up. We don't want to

49:07

be too much. We don't want to be like, what

49:09

is the NFL stance on it? She's going out every

49:11

stadium. No and listen, there's some

49:13

things you can control and not control. But listen,

49:15

anybody who's interested in the NFL, that's good for

49:18

me and good for everybody involved

49:20

with the NFL. You get somebody with the

49:22

kind of exposure and the following like Taylor

49:24

Swift, who does love football. I've known her

49:26

for 15 years. I first met her in

49:28

New Orleans. She loves the game.

49:31

And so that's great for us, right?

49:34

Take the relationship out of it, which if they're

49:36

having one point for me. Wake up, Travis. I'm

49:38

going to go to songs. She's sang a couple

49:40

songs about him. She feels so

49:43

high school about it. She's fast. Straight on

49:45

it. Straight on it. Great song. Connor's

49:47

got a question for you, Commissioner. Yeah, Commissioner.

49:50

I think it's kind of this transition period

49:52

with college football and NIL and how much

49:54

that is changing kind of the landscape of

49:56

everything when it comes to college athletics. Have

49:58

you seen any sort of change? at

50:00

least in the players that have come through

50:02

in recent years in comparison to previous ones

50:04

just because of the fact that they are

50:07

coming to the NFL with money, yesterday Pat

50:09

mentioned, these college guys for the first

50:11

time are getting time and money once they get to

50:13

the NFL and now it's kinda like, well they already

50:15

have the money, now they're just getting a lot of

50:17

more free time. Have you seen anything like that? Is

50:20

that something that you want to- You know the one

50:22

thing that was really interesting to me is we've always

50:24

held very strongly to our eligibility rule. So you have

50:26

to be at least three years out of high school.

50:31

In the last three years we've

50:33

seen that go from about 110 back

50:36

down to about 78, 80, somewhere in that area. And

50:40

the reality is, guys are staying in college football because

50:42

they're getting paid. And so

50:44

I don't think that's a bad thing because they're still in

50:46

the college program. I'm a big believer in college football, I

50:49

love it. I watch it all day. But

50:51

I also think they make stars for our

50:53

players. They give them their platform, they get

50:55

them ready to play the professional game, both

50:57

physically, mentally and otherwise. And so

51:00

I think it works. On the other hand, we

51:03

always look at, what does this mean to

51:05

us? What ultimately is this gonna

51:07

mean to the game of professional football? We work

51:09

really closely with college football. I'm meeting with them

51:11

in the next week. We

51:14

want to try to help. We want to try to deal with that. Well,

51:16

you're gonna take them in? Are you gonna bundle them? No,

51:18

I don't see that. I don't see that. I

51:21

really don't see that. At least today, but I

51:23

don't see that in the future. So whenever we're

51:25

talking about the college football and I've gotten baptized

51:27

in it with College Game Day, it just dropped me

51:29

right into college football. Bad decision,

51:31

a lot of the old whites hated me. In the

51:33

south, these people hated me. Why is this doofus in

51:36

our game? But I've got to learn a lot about

51:38

it. A lot, a lot about it. And it's like

51:40

all the problems that are currently happening in this

51:42

transition area with no guardrails on the NIL, there's

51:45

no free agency period. There's no actual contract structure.

51:47

So some of these players are signing deals that

51:49

are giving up like 25% of future earnings. It's

51:53

kind of all over the place. There's so many issues

51:55

with it though. There's only a couple people that could

51:57

probably You're one of them.

52:00

If you got time, why don't you do that? Why

52:02

don't you go take care of college football?

52:04

In my part-time job. Yeah, exactly. Why don't

52:06

you go do that? That'd be great. But

52:08

it has served as a minor

52:10

league through the NFL for a very long time.

52:13

So obviously you have the importance with each other,

52:15

but like, there's so many questions down there. Do

52:17

they ask you about any of this stuff? Yeah.

52:19

And we talk a lot about, I mean, COVID

52:21

is a great example. Everything we were doing, COVID,

52:24

we shared with college football. So

52:26

I was talking to the conference commissioners and telling

52:28

them what we would do. We shared our medical protocols.

52:32

We found a way to get through that and

52:34

try to help, you know, the game of football

52:36

overall. And we did that with other leagues

52:38

too, to be honest with you. We all sort of shared

52:40

information. But I think that's true. In this case, the problem

52:42

with it is who's in

52:44

control? Is it the NCAA or is it the conversation?

52:47

They're moving around. So for us,

52:49

I don't know enough about it right now, but if anybody asks

52:51

us for help, we're going to try to do our best. They

52:54

need you. So I hope that

52:56

happens ASAP. And as we roll

52:58

into round two of the 2024 NFL

53:00

Draft, let's

53:03

look back on what happened in round one.

53:05

Make a wish, kid. Oh, that was good.

53:07

Yes. Justin Lavergne. Never

53:09

knocked that right? Lavergne? He

53:13

does. Obviously he tells Xavier Worthy

53:16

getting drafted and achieved with a trade with the Buffalo

53:18

Bills. And it's a magical night. You do a lot

53:20

of this. We, I don't think I remembered how many

53:23

high school athletes were out here. I think it was

53:25

firefighters out here. You got to make a wish, get

53:27

out here. You're doing a lot of good for the

53:29

community. But immediately after that, I guess you FaceTimed Andy

53:31

Reed as well. And there was a, yeah, yeah, you

53:34

set them up. Let's go, Raj.

53:38

The commissioner's a human. That's a

53:41

sweet thing. That's a sweet night.

53:43

Well, coach is a great guy.

53:45

And, you know, that was, that

53:47

was the moment that he's just a great kid.

53:49

And it's a great story of his father and

53:51

son and all the things they've been

53:54

through. So make a wish is a great program for

53:56

us. But that was a chance. I knew Andy was

53:58

grass. And he responded right away. Beautiful.

54:00

Hey, whenever you say the Atlanta Falcons

54:03

Take Michael Pennick's junior while you're coming out of your

54:06

mouth. You're like, well, the world's about to explode right

54:08

now Is that yeah, you understand that no way it

54:10

was funny when I got the card I looked down

54:12

and I go wow, this will get a reaction Speaking

54:17

of a reaction you got picked up last

54:19

night what recent back surgery you were okay.

54:21

I did yet No, it wasn't too bad.

54:24

We handling big bumps though. We practice we run

54:26

into walls before the I

54:28

actually had a guy from NFL films. He was

54:30

about 6 for about 260

54:33

I said just pick me up once and just let me

54:35

see how And that just

54:37

let me down easy, but he was great. That's

54:39

a great kid And you know what it is.

54:41

It's just a pure emotion and that's by

54:44

the way I probably had back surgery because of all

54:46

the other yeah, Christian Christian

54:48

Christian I could have died We're

54:51

happy you didn't we're happy And

54:54

we're thankful you stopped by I used to say you were

54:56

scared to come on the show You know

54:58

because we'll ask you real questions, but what I should

55:00

have realized is just like in that team meeting

55:02

room Right

55:04

before the lockout. There's no such

55:06

thing as a tough question Roger the bell. Nope. You

55:08

are the man to be guiding our league We're very

55:10

lucky and thankful. Can't wait to see what you do

55:12

next and can't wait to see how you screw over

55:14

every fan base We

55:18

appreciate the hell out of you Commissioner

55:23

Oh Thank

55:31

you This

55:34

guy's Things like

55:37

shaping the biggest stuff talking

55:39

about you on your way out. Yeah, you don't

55:41

want your peanut M&M. Yeah I'm gonna take my

55:43

time. I appreciate him around. It's cold as shit up

55:45

here if you can make it warmer I know you

55:47

got control of the weather. I'm gonna press you in

55:49

the truck. Well. I didn't pack for it. You know

55:51

say bro Can't plan for this win

55:56

For the man Rod, thank you, buddy Hey

56:02

fantasy sports expert Michael Fabiano here. I

56:05

love the excitement of playoff basketball and the

56:07

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that easy. The

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crowd was a little bit early, it sounded

57:40

like AJ Hawk there but nonetheless their energy

57:42

was palpable because we're in the

57:44

great state of

57:47

Michigan. I

57:52

didn't think there was going to be anybody here today

57:54

because obviously the draft didn't start for a few hours

57:56

but these wonderful people have been yelling at us all

57:58

for a commercial break. It is great to see

58:01

you. We love the hell out of you. Happy

58:04

NFL Draft, all of you. The

58:06

toxic table is here at Boston

58:08

Connor, at Ty Schmidt. Conman,

58:11

what do you think of the commission stepping into

58:13

the Thunderdome here in Detroit and having a nice

58:15

little conversation about everything? Yeah, pretty unbelievable. I mean,

58:18

start to finish, it was one of those things

58:20

where you're not sure exactly

58:22

if he's just going to dance around everything,

58:24

just based on what we have heard and

58:26

seen about Roger Goodell, about how good he

58:28

is at talking without actually talking. And he

58:31

sat in the pocket, answered everything, and it

58:33

does feel as though, you know, the up

58:35

and to the right, sure, maybe not everything,

58:37

even though everyone says it is. The NFL

58:39

with that guy is up and to the

58:41

right forever. He came in whenever he became

58:43

the commissioner, and allegedly, it's never been publicly

58:45

stated by him that this is what he

58:48

said when he walked in there, but it's

58:50

always been like chatted about. He

58:52

walked into the owners and he said, this is where

58:54

we are, and then this is where I think we'll

58:56

go. And then literally just right

58:59

there. And then they extend him for another 180 million or

59:02

whatever. It's like

59:04

he's going to make decisions that are going to piss fan

59:06

bases off. Like that's just going to happen. He's going to

59:08

make mistakes. It's going to happen. But you look around at

59:10

the other leads and the other commissioners. It's

59:12

like the NFL and the owners and us. We

59:15

got to be thanking our lucky charms that

59:17

this man likes peanut M&Ms and makes the

59:19

decisions that he does. I love that Roger

59:21

Goodell guy. Thank you for I'm pumped he

59:23

joined us. Yeah, I mean, there's a reason

59:25

the commission is in that position. There's a

59:28

reason the commissioner, this is the most powerful

59:30

League in the World, the most popular League in

59:32

the world. Like, You can't just have some jackass

59:34

like Rob Manfred in a position like that, you

59:36

know, like you piece of metal. Yeah, exactly.. You

59:38

Need a guy who knows what he's doing, who's

59:40

forward thinking, who can also like kind of, you

59:43

know, shield the owners from some of the other

59:45

stuff, but also at the same time, like, understand

59:47

that you can't be stagnant. Like This has to

59:49

continue to grow within a great position now. But

59:51

Like, you're only as good as what you can

59:53

do tomorrow and the next year. And He understands

59:55

that like there's a reason he's in that position

59:57

Next to the time Made is one half. That

1:00:00

hammer. Hammer.

1:00:06

For this as of up here in Detroit that's

1:00:08

not bad. Not. Sure I

1:00:10

want our for the hammer. Cowboys

1:00:13

Tones a stone maybe Pittsburgh host the draft

1:00:15

nurses I would you are here no decisions

1:00:17

were made. it sound like they are in

1:00:19

the running and I will raj they are

1:00:21

western p a guy was a w day

1:00:24

of school which is in western vs or

1:00:26

zoc new must I said it was what

1:00:28

the pit so I know he has he

1:00:30

has it acidity flower or that against the

1:00:32

my yes and he did so. by

1:00:35

the out about of our dog would now

1:00:37

like. It's easy to

1:00:40

see why. Is that a good

1:00:42

or not? just like soccer of

1:00:44

on stage when you're talking to

1:00:46

My normal was as surprised because.

1:00:49

Like that the shouldn't be to power that he

1:00:51

how. Much

1:00:53

our said. See what

1:00:55

he deserves more. Easily

1:00:59

like which is awesome. Fight off can resist

1:01:01

a normal human being? normal do like you

1:01:04

could definitely like to have a drink with

1:01:06

it out of is very impressive. Surprised by

1:01:08

that I suppose. Like to see if he's

1:01:10

order not flaming margarita rather well. It's headquarters

1:01:12

the other night during right next to one

1:01:15

hour for the Hammer. Cowboys

1:01:17

don't dig sees a. College

1:01:20

Football National champion.

1:01:22

Wow. A Super

1:01:24

Bowl champion say

1:01:26

Ryder Cup winner

1:01:28

Fly father of

1:01:31

Why President of

1:01:33

Ohio. Are

1:01:35

y C. I

1:01:38

was. All.

1:01:43

Over the Green Bay Packers. Aj hawk.

1:01:49

Oh, I was the embryo don't

1:01:51

Do blew me off Our. asses

1:01:56

addresses when awesome know what to

1:01:58

do recommend certain because Radio

1:02:00

City Music Hall said sorry about it. That's

1:02:03

wild. We might still be there. It

1:02:05

rebooted the NFL. Yeah, because I assume the NFL is coming

1:02:07

up with plans, coming up with plans, coming up with plans.

1:02:09

Do we want to do this? And then it's like almost

1:02:11

like the universe, the football gods tell them, yup, you need

1:02:13

to go. And now we're here in

1:02:16

Detroit. Round two's tonight, there's gonna be electric energy

1:02:18

here. Saw some dreams come true last night. The

1:02:20

draft is a full-on spectacle, Adrian. Everything is a

1:02:22

spectacle in the NFL. I was talking to somebody

1:02:24

the other day back in Ohio, just how the

1:02:27

NFL Combine gets bigger ratings sometimes in the

1:02:29

NBA Finals. Like that's what Roger has

1:02:31

found a way to make everything prime

1:02:33

time. Everything, the figure of the

1:02:36

draft now compared to 10, 12 years ago. It's

1:02:38

a completely different world. It used to start on

1:02:40

Saturday, like 10 a.m., round one. Now

1:02:42

we have prime time Thursday night and everything is an event.

1:02:44

You have 275,000 people live in Paris in

1:02:47

40 degree weather. So I'd

1:02:50

say we're on a good

1:02:52

path. Business is booming, CTSBN

1:02:54

would say. Nine-year

1:02:56

NFL vet, ladies and gentlemen. Darius

1:02:59

J. Butler. We got him

1:03:01

on our spot. Deep butchers, a

1:03:03

little bit of a run on corners there. We

1:03:05

got a couple. Cooper DeGene, who you said

1:03:07

is too white to put corners. numerous times

1:03:10

said that. You said, I don't

1:03:12

like this flavor. We get vanilla. Is that

1:03:15

the flavor you were talking about? I love

1:03:17

them. Terry on Arnold though. He comes here

1:03:19

to the Detroit Lions. Obviously,

1:03:21

they have Aaron Glenn back as defensive

1:03:24

coordinator. Offensive coordinator still here. Ben, head coach still

1:03:26

here. They're only up and to the right, it

1:03:28

feels like. So I'm in the hotel lobby

1:03:30

earlier. Cold dude, great attitude. How'd you

1:03:32

feel about the defensive backs that were

1:03:34

drafted last night? And will this run continue

1:03:36

a little bit here in the second round?

1:03:39

I liked him. He's a Detroit guy, obviously

1:03:41

coach. Well, coach Harb from Nick Saban. I'm

1:03:43

still can't boy a show. He knows how

1:03:45

to draft guys. He knows how to pick

1:03:47

them. Interesting to see obviously where Kool-Aid goes

1:03:50

tonight and with Cooper DeGene. He is obviously

1:03:52

a phenomenal athlete. I think you can play

1:03:54

the corner position in the right

1:03:56

system, but he can also be a master by day

1:03:58

one at the Nical. Brian branch was

1:04:00

he has a ball skills to be a return

1:04:03

as well. I'm Mitchell going to Philly. I think

1:04:05

that was Jared

1:04:10

Goff was not drafted last night He

1:04:13

was on the stage alongside a bunch of superstars

1:04:15

and whatever you talk about like it

1:04:17

being a spectacle It's like it's only a matter

1:04:20

of time before those annual meetings become oh, we'll

1:04:22

probably do a prime time from the annual meetings

1:04:24

Oh, yeah, exactly. That's probably what already my dump

1:04:26

that boxy. Yeah, Foxy dump that dump not for

1:04:28

fans though We like yeah, we should we could

1:04:30

go down there with the owners and just hang out

1:04:33

coaches and we get all the access I don't think

1:04:35

fans should know that's our show gives the access to

1:04:37

the people. Yeah. Yeah through the show one-in-one I don't

1:04:39

know if the owners want to see that's the

1:04:41

thing like Raj If

1:04:43

you're right, if you roll out and say hey We'd

1:04:45

like to do like a prime time show from the

1:04:47

annual league meetings. You got everybody down there Easy just

1:04:50

gotta go through but like cool and that thing will

1:04:52

rate better than or you how about it?

1:04:54

I thought there was a chance 32 offensive

1:04:56

players get drafted Like we

1:04:58

might have or T in a row. Why is

1:05:00

that? Why now? I don't know. I think

1:05:02

it's just this draft call I think it's this yeah,

1:05:04

I mean corner. I was that plays a big cloud

1:05:07

I was interested in that so I way

1:05:09

too early obviously like I looked at the next

1:05:11

year's mock draft already It's already out there a

1:05:13

lot more defensive players in that one. I think it's

1:05:15

just A

1:05:17

lot last year defense. I know

1:05:19

yeah three and then Witherspoon Carter

1:05:21

with us. Yeah, they went pretty

1:05:23

high corners Last

1:05:25

year Caleb Williams number one overall

1:05:28

is teammate now aroma Dylan's a

1:05:30

also going to the Bears Brock

1:05:33

Bowers Ends

1:05:35

up with the Las Vegas Raiders quite a

1:05:37

weapon to add to the desert. We're wondering

1:05:39

about his dad Yeah, people want to talk

1:05:41

sure didn't know if he was just boozed

1:05:43

up on the end of the couch or

1:05:45

if he's potentially banned from Vegas And

1:05:48

now yeah Years

1:05:51

Essentially not a lot back in Vegas

1:05:53

and just found out that now he's

1:05:55

gonna have to dress it head on with the whole family

1:05:57

But or maybe he's just running through you know life.

1:06:01

And he's just thinking about how big

1:06:03

of a dream come true this is

1:06:05

for Brock Bowers. Obviously big stories. Other

1:06:07

sports happened last night. Really? No, obviously

1:06:09

in the NBA, the Pistons suck. And

1:06:12

in the NHL, the Red Wings blow. But the NHL

1:06:14

last night, yes, the Panthers

1:06:26

won 3-0 over the

1:06:28

Lightning and then the Hurricanes won 3-0. They're

1:06:30

up 3-0 in a series.

1:06:33

Over the Islanders, over the Islanders, over

1:06:35

the Islanders. So NHL playoffs happening, NBA

1:06:37

playoffs happening last night. It's

1:06:40

a beautiful thing. We got a lot of

1:06:42

sports happening. But any time

1:06:44

the NFL does anything, it's going to

1:06:47

steal the show. Now, seemingly everybody with

1:06:49

a football brain felt one

1:06:51

way about a decision that was made

1:06:53

last night. Absolutely. When you

1:06:55

calculate the age of the person that

1:06:57

was drafted, the moves that

1:06:59

the team that drafted said person just

1:07:02

made, including a hundred and some million

1:07:04

guaranteed at the same exact position to

1:07:08

a team that hasn't been in the playoffs a long

1:07:10

time or good, has a lot of needs. For

1:07:13

them to draft a quarterback,

1:07:15

a lot of people said,

1:07:17

that was stupid. That seems like that doesn't make a

1:07:19

lot of sense. Even if it does make sense, when?

1:07:21

2026? Okay. Where

1:07:24

are the Falcons then? Where's the NFC South?

1:07:26

Now, we might all be eating our words

1:07:28

because everybody seems to feel the same way on

1:07:31

this, except for one man. That's

1:07:33

right. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, that one man

1:07:35

is known here in the great city of Detroit.

1:07:38

This man is the guru for

1:07:40

football on ESPN. Ladies

1:07:42

and gentlemen, the tall Dan Orlowski.

1:07:52

I don't think his

1:07:54

responses were the same when I played. So, okay.

1:08:00

Dan you're really tall I forgot how tall you are. You're

1:08:02

shooting guard. You don't eat those, we

1:08:04

know you don't eat those. Okay

1:08:07

Dan, only the brown ones of course. Dan,

1:08:11

how are you? Good to see you. What

1:08:13

happened? I'm just saying. Dan

1:08:15

was just terrible. Ladies and gentlemen

1:08:17

this man played football here. Uh

1:08:20

huh. Good heat.

1:08:23

How about that orange sign right there? Yeah

1:08:25

I did see it. It's way on the

1:08:28

air. We don't need it. Thank

1:08:31

you obviously. I don't think it's true. Dan

1:08:35

we've only seen I think one

1:08:37

play of you playing for the Detroit Lions. It

1:08:39

looked great. Can

1:08:41

you shut up for a second? We've

1:08:44

only got to see one play. I

1:08:46

used to do it on repeat. On the

1:08:48

internet every day. Every

1:08:51

night. Is it Touchdown? No. That

1:08:53

was a scoring play. That's what

1:08:55

you do with the end zone. You played a lot of ball here

1:08:57

in Detroit. You

1:09:00

have a lot of history in Detroit right? Is that

1:09:02

an inaccurate assessment? I was here for seven

1:09:04

years. Ball time. Hell

1:09:06

yeah. You won UConn's first ball game ever

1:09:08

here. Oh yeah that's right. Motor

1:09:11

City ball. Okay. Played against

1:09:13

Toledo, Bruce Gratkowski. Oh

1:09:15

yeah. Okay. So Dan you

1:09:17

got a lot of history in the great city of

1:09:19

Detroit. I love Detroit. I love Detroit. I actually love

1:09:22

Detroit. Really? They

1:09:24

love you too. It's a great town. Dan-o.

1:09:26

Dan-o. Dan-o. They

1:09:29

like Dan-o. Dan-o. What do you

1:09:31

all know? I've always loved Detroit man.

1:09:34

Look I love you. Yeah. They're

1:09:36

great. Big Danny. Big Danny.

1:09:39

Big Danny. Big Danny. Big

1:09:41

Danny. Big Danny. Big

1:09:43

Danny. Okay so. Lambo's great. Big

1:09:45

Danny. Big

1:09:48

Danny was the nickname that Michael Lombardo gave you

1:09:50

in the first hour here today. He's obviously done.

1:09:52

I heard he didn't have simany great days. No

1:09:56

one's a bigger fan of me than his.

1:09:58

I agree. That's how they look

1:10:00

at it. Your haters are your biggest admirers or whatever.

1:10:03

But nonetheless, you came out and defended the

1:10:05

Atlanta Falcons pick of Michael Penix, more so

1:10:08

than anybody else that had access to a

1:10:10

microphone. Michael Lombardi obviously would go in to

1:10:12

cook you, but he also has feelings about

1:10:14

Atlanta because good friend of his Bill Belichick

1:10:16

would not be in top three. There's a

1:10:19

lot cooking into this entire situation. You

1:10:21

came out on the defense of the pit.

1:10:23

You're the only human that I've encountered that

1:10:26

feels that way. Why is that? And are

1:10:28

you just doing this to be an asshole

1:10:30

on television? Good question. All

1:10:32

I answer is I'm not doing it to be

1:10:34

the one, the only one. No. OK.

1:10:36

That's good to hear. There we go.

1:10:39

Try. So a little bit is when

1:10:41

Green Bay took Jordan, I was a

1:10:43

supporter of that. Because I philosophically believe

1:10:45

in that, the Green Bay model. When

1:10:48

the pick came, happened last night, I was

1:10:50

perplexed. I was like, what? And I was trying to make

1:10:52

sense of it. And initially, because

1:10:54

in the moment, adrenaline, it made no sense

1:10:56

to me. Go to bed. Think

1:10:59

about it a little bit more. Wake up. I send out

1:11:01

a text to somebody with the emoji eyes like

1:11:03

this. Like, what? And they responded back to me.

1:11:06

Say, go ahead. Ask the question. So

1:11:08

I asked. And the

1:11:10

way it was expressed to me, and I

1:11:12

thought about it a little bit before and

1:11:14

after hearing the conversation or the explanation, number

1:11:16

one, they had Michael Penix as

1:11:18

the number two ranked quarterback in this draft, neck

1:11:21

and neck with Jaden Daniels. Top

1:11:23

five on their draft when it comes to player. OK. They

1:11:26

really liked the player. Number two, they

1:11:28

think that they're a better football team than seven and

1:11:30

10 with Kirk Cousins. They believe that they're a team that's

1:11:32

going to contend for the playoffs, be in the playoffs, so

1:11:35

they're going to be picking late. And that

1:11:37

first round pick is not going to be enough for

1:11:39

them to get up. They experienced that in this draft.

1:11:42

All the teams that were trying to get up ahead of

1:11:44

them, no one was budging, even

1:11:46

with the picks. It wasn't enough to get up. Number

1:11:48

three, they went out for a private

1:11:50

workout with Michael Penix. It was 50 degrees. It was

1:11:52

windy out. And everybody that was there walked away and

1:11:55

it felt like they were throwing or Watching

1:11:57

a workout that was indoors. The Ball just

1:11:59

jumped off. Hand and they said

1:12:01

people that were around stafford. Said

1:12:04

that. They. Had not seen somebody

1:12:06

throw football like that since Matthew Stafford

1:12:08

or that was the closest to throw

1:12:10

the ball like Matthew Stafford. So they

1:12:12

love the player. And also

1:12:14

like you're not making that pick unless the

1:12:16

owner goes I want that pick them look

1:12:19

like you're not doing it near. There's no

1:12:21

way that there's one hundred as your manager

1:12:23

makes Africans is oh Arthur Blank by the

1:12:25

way we do never satisfied or these tears

1:12:28

in his own of you say like he

1:12:30

like that sort of thing reporters he was

1:12:32

any other suggestions of the of the for

1:12:35

that to me it had success for the

1:12:37

selassie was not He said they think they're

1:12:39

very southern sun okay say I'm a bit

1:12:41

of last forever and you listen to Michael.

1:12:44

Aborted dropped passes like twenty one wins or

1:12:46

three seasons of a sudden. it on his

1:12:48

own, able to waste hurts his essays. I'll

1:12:50

make the team better but to get it

1:12:52

a position as a just fade over one

1:12:54

hundred million dollars so that A starts he

1:12:56

just doesn't seem like a So what happens?

1:12:58

I get satellite two years, three years. What's

1:13:00

the plans or idol? I don't know I

1:13:02

I did notice Atlanta doesn't really have to

1:13:04

have a high level of concern if at

1:13:07

all to twenty thirty for quarterback son that's

1:13:09

rare and not a sounds associate with on

1:13:11

a backup quarterback for after. They also I

1:13:13

think he does. The couple things. I've

1:13:16

never built a team, but.

1:13:21

Not necessarily. You

1:13:24

got Michael's metics ranked As if your

1:13:26

organization's right, Michael taxes the settlements quarterback

1:13:28

top four player and maybe you don't

1:13:30

have another player's specifically on the defensive

1:13:33

side. At twenty in a dress up

1:13:35

with everyone would say that the what

1:13:37

happens if there's no freedom partner would

1:13:39

up as if there's no equal trade

1:13:41

value you can you're not is giving.

1:13:44

away the a selection and if you value the

1:13:46

player that much and then also this for he

1:13:48

more says with the route ran for a while

1:13:50

they're notorious for trading away their first round pick

1:13:52

because it's not could be worth anything just because

1:13:54

they're going to would have watch games scary thought

1:13:56

nose with the new orleans saints when they didn't

1:13:58

have a plan for his quarterback after Drew

1:14:00

Brees and named Mard and trying to figure it

1:14:02

out. Arthur Blank has been trying to replace Matt

1:14:05

Ryan since he left. So like, there's a lot

1:14:07

of people attached to the organization that have been

1:14:09

in the quarterback, what are we

1:14:11

going to do purgatory for a while? And

1:14:13

so like, I understand both elements of it.

1:14:16

I do, but I completely

1:14:19

understand and agree with why Atlanta did

1:14:21

it. Got it. Connor has, I mean,

1:14:23

if they

1:14:25

suck. Oh man. What

1:14:27

if Kirk struggles though? Is we going to be calling

1:14:29

for a PENEX? A hundred and thirty million. Probably. Like,

1:14:31

I do create another issue. Then I guess in the

1:14:33

gym saying, Oh, well, we're bad anyway. We're going to,

1:14:35

that's why we need this guy. I think you're also

1:14:37

living in the world of what if Kirk sucks Kirk

1:14:39

hasn't sucked in like ever. He sucks. Let's say he

1:14:41

has a couple of like three or four games where

1:14:44

they're losing, which Kirk, you know, how that, you know,

1:14:46

I want to do that. Hey, pull them when there's

1:14:48

a young guy behind me, pull and put this guy

1:14:50

in. Yeah. I don't think you pulled a tree. I mean,

1:14:52

there's a long leash for Kirk cousins. I don't think you

1:14:54

pulled a trigger quickly, but if it gets to a point

1:14:56

where, you know, all of a

1:14:58

sudden Kirk cousins can't play anymore, you're not in

1:15:00

a bad situation. You look like a genius then.

1:15:02

He's 24. I

1:15:05

get it. He's 24. But like, so was the second

1:15:07

pick of the draft. Yeah. He's done.

1:15:09

He's done. I understood. I

1:15:11

guess I have a hundred million. Did they

1:15:13

pay him out a hundred million? No, I

1:15:15

don't think so. He's like a million. Okay.

1:15:17

Okay. And how about Darnold? Cause Jake, I

1:15:19

was like 10, 10. Yeah. Up to

1:15:21

Toby up there and doing up. Up

1:15:23

to eight million. That's a lot. Eight

1:15:25

million. That's good for him. A

1:15:28

hundred and 80 million dollar contract

1:15:31

to a quarterback just two

1:15:33

months ago. But like it is, it is a

1:15:35

wild move. It's funny to see how it works

1:15:37

out because maybe Dan and

1:15:40

the Falcons organization will be right

1:15:42

or maybe everybody else will be. Connor's got

1:15:44

a question for you, Dan. Oh, yeah, Dan. Obviously I was

1:15:47

the only one not to shake your hand because I stand

1:15:49

on business for Michael Lombardi. Uh,

1:15:55

one team that we all thought. I

1:15:59

mean, come on. That's very quarterback

1:16:01

meaty. With the Raiders, they kind

1:16:03

of missed out. Are you surprised that they didn't

1:16:05

make a move? Are you surprised that once the

1:16:07

draft board didn't false them, or they could take

1:16:09

a quarterback that they didn't? Or do you think...

1:16:11

There was no quarterback left. Yeah, so do you

1:16:14

think Roland with Gardner-Minchu... That's their only option, you

1:16:16

know? That's their only choice. I do think that

1:16:18

the Raiders tried to get up. My guess is

1:16:20

they only really tried to get up

1:16:22

for Jaden Daniels. I don't know how aggressive

1:16:24

they were for a Drake May or a JJ, but it's

1:16:27

where their situation just

1:16:29

kind of fell at 13. Gardner will be

1:16:32

fine, but win some games with Gardner. I

1:16:34

don't think that the... They're in

1:16:36

the Gardner's or future situation right now.

1:16:39

Two-year deal. You know, not as much money. Four-se...

1:16:41

A good bridge for two years. Do you think

1:16:43

Aiden O'Connell has a chance at all? I

1:16:46

think Gardner is a better player than Aiden O'Connell. And

1:16:48

my guess is that the Raiders will

1:16:50

be very active next year trying to figure

1:16:53

out the quarterback situation. Ty has

1:16:55

a question for you, Dano. What about Bo Nicks? We

1:16:57

had Sean Payton on the dress attack last

1:16:59

night, and he was just warden Bo Nicks.

1:17:02

Basically, like the second coming of Drew Brees,

1:17:04

basically what he made it sound like. He

1:17:07

talked for probably 45 minutes. Yeah, straight. About

1:17:10

all his stats, about how, you know... Did you see this,

1:17:12

Dan? Yeah. Sean talked... You're

1:17:14

gonna show it was great. Thank you. We

1:17:17

appreciate it. It was something. He

1:17:19

was mad at us for not getting him on the screen

1:17:21

fast enough because he was missing none. How was it? None.

1:17:25

Oh, shit. We thought we saw you on TV.

1:17:27

No, I thought we reacted. We actually saw you on TV. We saw

1:17:29

you on TV. We saw you on TV. By

1:17:31

the way, we saw... Yeah, so he obviously... Yeah. High

1:17:34

praise for Bo Nicks. And I think leading up to

1:17:36

the draft, it kind of became like a foregone conclusion,

1:17:39

hey, Bo Nicks, there's gonna be a first-rounder, but I think a

1:17:41

lot of people... Really

1:17:44

accurate thrower down the field than I think

1:17:46

the nation had the perspective of. Also,

1:17:49

and I've been saying this, everyone thinks of Bo

1:17:51

Nicks, and they think of the 18-year-old from five

1:17:53

years ago at Auburn that was like, hey, run

1:17:55

around and just launch a ball over your head.

1:17:57

And he didn't do

1:17:59

that much at Oregon. And he was way more

1:18:01

developed, way more advanced. He had grown so

1:18:03

much. He became a much consistent

1:18:06

pocket passing quarterback. And he had a ton

1:18:08

of control at the line of scrimmage. So

1:18:11

I'm not a big like fit

1:18:13

person, but this was

1:18:15

the place that just made a ton

1:18:18

of sense when it came to player and

1:18:20

the style of offense that the

1:18:22

coach wants to run. Denver was linked to Bow for

1:18:24

the last few weeks jumping into the draft and Sean

1:18:26

said he liked him and Sean said they took a

1:18:28

visit with him as soon as they got in the car

1:18:31

after talking to him, they were actually wondering, is everybody

1:18:33

gonna see what we just saw? Like that's our guy.

1:18:35

So they're pumped, they're jacked. They gotta get some

1:18:38

more talent around them. Really like. $85

1:18:40

million they can't use though. Yeah, but

1:18:42

you now got a guy for a four year

1:18:44

window that you can kind of build on. Atlanta

1:18:46

was like 85 million. We'll do 130,

1:18:48

man. Hold on. We won't use

1:18:50

it. We don't care. We got a whole new quarterback

1:18:53

coming in. D-Bud's got a question for you, Con, by

1:18:55

the way. Congrats to both of you. Absolutely. Thank you,

1:18:57

appreciate it. What's up, guys? So

1:19:00

AJ's favorite pick, Malik Neighbors, at the top of

1:19:02

the draft, but was kind of surprised. I know

1:19:04

I was at least, that they stuck with Daniel

1:19:06

Jones going forward. What's your thoughts on Daniel Jones

1:19:09

and obviously adding neighbors? And what would be the

1:19:11

plan if you were there to get Daniel Jones

1:19:13

to be playing some winning football? Yeah, so Neighbors

1:19:15

has got to get 10 touches a game. You

1:19:17

know, I think no one

1:19:20

in the NFL has least less explosive plays

1:19:22

since Daniel Jones came into the NFL than

1:19:24

Daniel Jones. Malik

1:19:27

Neighbors has created the most explosive plays

1:19:29

in college football since Jamar Chase left. No one's

1:19:32

got more. So like, that

1:19:34

obviously fixes that issue. Here's

1:19:37

my thing with the Giants. Okay, Daniel Jones

1:19:39

has thrown for over 15 touchdowns once in

1:19:41

his career. Let's say that he

1:19:43

plays above average this year

1:19:45

for him. And he throws for 20

1:19:48

touchdowns in 3,500 yards. Next

1:19:50

year, then, you're faced if you're the Giants going, okay, are

1:19:52

we going to pay Daniel $42 million or

1:19:55

do we have to figure out our quarterback situation then? Are

1:19:57

you going to pay $42 million for like average?

1:20:00

quarterback player I think is going to be

1:20:02

their situation. I don't know if there's a

1:20:04

room in the NFC quarterback wise that I'm

1:20:06

less confident in. You know

1:20:08

like less confident like like hope

1:20:10

and just because he's missed

1:20:12

18 games in three years again the play

1:20:14

hasn't really elevated so I do

1:20:17

think neighbors helps but neighbors is gonna have to

1:20:19

be great for Daniel to be good. Bruce the

1:20:21

Giants are dead. Like

1:20:23

what quarterback room are you less confident

1:20:25

in the NFC? I mean there's still

1:20:27

a lot of courses obviously Carolina. Carolina

1:20:29

but like you're hopeful because you're like unknown. I

1:20:32

mean Atlanta you can throw up there now. But

1:20:35

yeah David Jones has has the last couple years.

1:20:37

Did you see how cool Pennick's looked last

1:20:39

night? Really? Cushades. Yeah did you watch the

1:20:41

quarterback documentary on Netflix? No the NFL one

1:20:43

or that I didn't know there was a

1:20:45

college one. No the Peyton Manning one. So

1:20:48

what? Oh yeah yeah season one. Yeah with

1:20:50

Kirk. Pennick's

1:20:52

and Kirk Cousins are about to be the greatest little

1:20:54

tag game today. What was the uh did you see

1:20:56

the meme going around last night? They were like it

1:20:58

was uh Ted's Quaid and uh and he gave

1:21:01

it to Sunday. Yeah it was really good. So

1:21:03

you didn't cover the draft last night? What the

1:21:05

hell's that about? What's the war I saw? We

1:21:08

are certain. That's why we didn't have you on. We

1:21:10

would have had you on. What

1:21:13

would have been on the panel? Yeah you would have

1:21:15

been next to Bill. Bill Belichick went out on a

1:21:17

way to go to coach Belichick. I'm not sad to

1:21:19

say hi to Daniel. Yeah. Why'd it happen? Bill Belichick

1:21:21

after the Goodell interview went on to the ESPN Live

1:21:23

set just to say hi to Daniel. Yeah he was

1:21:25

great. He was great. He

1:21:27

came and said so was Gadella. I'd never

1:21:29

really like spent time talking with them. They were cool. And

1:21:32

they know who you were. They said oh my god. I hope

1:21:34

so. Guy on TV. It's the authority. It's the authority.

1:21:37

The quarterback. Oh this guy's got all the answers.

1:21:40

Here's the guy. Dan we appreciate you. What do

1:21:42

you have today? NFL Live? I got NFL Live

1:21:44

uh two to four and then Sports Center and

1:21:47

then go home. All right well safe travels. This

1:21:49

is your home. Remember. Yeah. Don't you forget it.

1:21:52

Look how good these people are

1:21:55

man. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. Oh,

1:22:00

yeah. Okay.

1:22:06

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put on my brighter days stay dead. See

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going to eat you. Hey

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buddy, plumb high mports are greater than the Packard's I do you guys

1:22:23

have the peanut and

1:22:27

stop taking something weird with the man.

1:22:30

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1:22:32

brown. You can put them in your pocket. You're a weirdo.

1:22:34

You're weirdo. They all taste the same. Yes,

1:22:36

they do. Jesus

1:22:39

only ate the brown ones too. He

1:22:41

did. I think I read that. Yeah, they

1:22:43

had evidence. They had evidence. Is that why

1:22:45

you only eat the brown peanut evidence? I

1:22:48

only eat the brown peanut MMS for my son.

1:22:53

For your son? Because of my son.

1:22:55

Yeah. I like the

1:22:57

brown peanut MMS the most easy. You

1:22:59

feel like an idiot. Oh, no. No.

1:23:03

No. No. No. No.

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No. No. No.

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No. No. I

1:23:11

thought he bested big. I got it. Oh,

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God, you look good today. I just left

1:23:18

the funeral. Jesus. I

1:23:21

love the old black. Okay. There's

1:23:25

a couple brown MMS left if you'd like to take them

1:23:27

on your way out. I get them out there. It would

1:23:29

be our dream if that was the case. Kadell got a

1:23:31

whole other one. So if you see him. How about he

1:23:33

spit? Oh, yeah. Very. He's

1:23:36

doing he's you remember he ran the 40

1:23:38

what a couple years back or four to

1:23:40

eight. Yeah. And what would you

1:23:42

run a four? What's your what was your 40 time coming out

1:23:44

there? I saw you get away from Jared being nine

1:23:46

feet tall. Five flat. I'm

1:23:49

tall. Are you? Six five. Five.

1:23:53

The vertical black. I'm recording my vertical. Twenty

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seven. Okay. But you

1:23:58

got to jump a little. Yeah,

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I don't have to jump that high Got

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you the safety joke You

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dry. Yes Friday

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the chits out about him getting his eyes and back.

1:25:34

How you doing out here? Yeah,

1:25:40

so I think this is probably like Yeah,

1:25:42

I'm gonna send the reason why this is

1:25:44

happening is because like they come over here

1:25:47

early. There's really nothing else to do Yeah,

1:25:49

yeah, I mean they come see the greatest

1:25:51

jawline in Oh, yeah, I

1:25:53

see you buddy see a lot of

1:25:55

people Just

1:26:00

like at a period of game, there's vendors walking

1:26:02

around with ice cold beer. That's

1:26:04

fantastic news. There's a lot

1:26:06

of good signs. There was a beat to

1:26:08

D. I mean, Plum High Esports greater than

1:26:11

Ohio State is just up here. Yeah,

1:26:13

there's the beat to D. The

1:26:16

Plum High Esports team is on their way back. Yeah, they

1:26:18

still mind out of 9. I

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don't know. They stink. They're acknowledging the

1:26:23

Travel Chief down here. We appreciate that.

1:26:27

Okay, let's talk about

1:26:29

some situations that are brewing around the NFL.

1:26:32

We talked about it a little bit earlier. The

1:26:34

wide receiver room for

1:26:36

the San Francisco 49ers is now a

1:26:38

full conversation. Not only because Ricky

1:26:41

Pearson or whatever gets drafted over

1:26:43

there, but because Brandon Iuke potentially getting traded

1:26:45

if you don't get a new deal. And

1:26:48

then Michael Lombardi last week was like, maybe

1:26:50

it's not Iuke now. Maybe Iuke gets the deal

1:26:52

done. Debo getting traded out

1:26:54

of town. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

1:26:57

So John Lynch and Shanahan were asked about this

1:26:59

at a press conference, and they leave everything kind

1:27:01

of on the table. Roll it, Foxy! Reports

1:27:04

say on potential treats for a

1:27:06

U of Samuel or Brandon Iuke. Are

1:27:08

those true if that film play ends because

1:27:10

this pick can be indicated? Why

1:27:13

is it always us? But, you know,

1:27:16

I don't know. I

1:27:19

know that we're continuing to have positive

1:27:21

talks with BA. You

1:27:23

know, we are

1:27:25

really efforting to get something done

1:27:27

with them. And we're excited about

1:27:30

continuing down that path. And

1:27:32

Brandon being a part of this team, Debo is a part

1:27:34

of this team, and a big part of this team. So,

1:27:37

like I said, we feel great about that

1:27:40

group, and we feel like we just made

1:27:42

it better with another really good addition to

1:27:44

it. We compliment the group real well. The

1:27:47

door on a trade? Never close the

1:27:49

door on a trade. We'll

1:27:52

always listen, and we have. I

1:27:55

don't care. But we like our group

1:27:57

as it stands. What

1:28:00

was the lead in taking the first score?

1:28:02

If you got to consider creating brand and

1:28:05

now the first brand is over, that's unlikely

1:28:07

that you would move? Yeah, I

1:28:10

thought it was unlikely going into it, but

1:28:12

that doesn't mean that it can't happen. So

1:28:14

I mean, you listen to everything. Everything's about trying to

1:28:17

improve our team as much as we can for 2024

1:28:19

without jeopardizing 25 as much as possible.

1:28:24

That's everything you look into and whenever

1:28:26

that opportunity comes, whichever way, if you can improve

1:28:28

your team, you do that. Sometimes

1:28:31

it's hard to picture proving your team, though,

1:28:33

without them. It's fascinating because

1:28:35

this conversation seems to happen for the Niners

1:28:37

a lot about the plethora of weapons that

1:28:39

they have. And that's why they beat a

1:28:41

team like the Detroit Lions in the NFC

1:28:43

Champions. That's right. That's right. That's

1:28:45

right. That's right. Luther or

1:28:49

Lee. Or.

1:28:54

Or just pick the

1:28:56

field goal, Pat. Yeah, pick the

1:28:58

field goal. A lot of

1:29:00

decisions made by Dan Campbell that have got

1:29:02

them to this point. Yeah, true. As

1:29:05

those two were chatting on the screen, this crowd

1:29:07

could tear less. Oh, yeah. They were talking. They're

1:29:09

like, these two hate each other. It's obvious. It's

1:29:12

like, well, they they won so much, but they

1:29:14

haven't won at all. That's

1:29:16

the conversation about the Niners team. And now they're

1:29:18

going to have to deal. It seems like yet

1:29:21

again, but they'll be back at the juggernaut. Are

1:29:24

they going to they have to have to.

1:29:26

We talked about Windows, right? You always

1:29:28

say, oh, who's Windows open the Niners

1:29:31

Windows closing just because of I feel

1:29:33

like the money. You cannot continue to

1:29:35

see all these guys get paid money

1:29:37

for their position. Brock.

1:29:41

Yep. Very cheap right now. We're two

1:29:43

years now. That's how you build your team. But then once

1:29:45

you say Brock, you're going to have to let go of

1:29:47

people. Yeah. And that's exactly what he meant

1:29:49

when he said we can't jeopardize the team in twenty twenty

1:29:51

five. Like he was directly alluding to

1:29:54

the Brock. So like they are

1:29:56

kind of they should have won by now. In their

1:29:58

mind, they're thinking, hey, we should at least have one.

1:30:00

ring that by now with Brock as our quarterback on a

1:30:02

rookie deal. Potentially two. Oh, yeah. They're

1:30:04

not going to have the wrong cross. The

1:30:06

Jimmy G one where they were, you know,

1:30:08

a three yard overthrow away from a potential

1:30:10

circle there. Remember that three yard overthrow. With

1:30:12

what Jimmy did that entire run, he misses

1:30:14

that deep ball. They don't win. And all

1:30:17

of a sudden it's like, I'm going to

1:30:19

get Jimmy the hell out of here. Tom

1:30:21

Brady getting traded in here. And that

1:30:23

team is still one every single year.

1:30:26

And now they got their quarterback had a very

1:30:28

cheap contract. Don't have to figure it out. After

1:30:30

making one of the worst draft trades. Yeah.

1:30:33

Never. Here. You're

1:30:35

a number three. And then, you know, Trey Lance basically,

1:30:38

you know, obviously never played in the season. You trade

1:30:40

him. So I built the great roster. Yeah. They

1:30:42

got to be very, very disappointed right now.

1:30:45

And Detroit Lions are a great football team.

1:30:51

But in the NFC side, they're in the Niners

1:30:53

era right now, you know, and the Niners were

1:30:55

the Achilles heel to the Packers there for a

1:30:57

bit. They obviously got the Lions this year. They

1:31:00

are loaded. But when you're loaded, there's a

1:31:02

lot of money around. And now

1:31:04

can they continue to do salary cap gymnastics

1:31:06

as they move forward? We shall see. Now,

1:31:09

last night we got a chance to do the

1:31:11

entire draft alongside Bill Belichick. And I know you

1:31:13

said a couple of things during it about

1:31:16

how, oh, this is familiar, how he's breaking down the film.

1:31:18

Petton Patriots online were tweeting about

1:31:21

what the world was experiencing. Here's

1:31:23

James White. Obviously, everybody remembers him out of the

1:31:25

backfield. This is what a Bill team meeting is

1:31:27

like. Only makes you better, though, because every

1:31:30

one of these quarterbacks that got drafted high, he

1:31:33

ran two and a half, three minutes of film.

1:31:36

And half of it was

1:31:38

this shit ain't going to work. This

1:31:40

is not how this is going to go. For

1:31:43

me, I enjoyed watching it because I think he

1:31:45

was putting a realistic expectation for fans of teams.

1:31:47

Like, hey, everybody talks about this guy has to

1:31:49

develop for a year. He's got to get better.

1:31:51

He's got to get better. Well, what's he got

1:31:53

to get better at? For Drake May, he's zoomed

1:31:55

in. This dude's feet need to get figured out.

1:31:58

This is what he needs to figure out. plays

1:32:00

now a lot of college guys are doing that

1:32:02

okay but that was a big piece of these

1:32:04

negatives were like take the check down here but

1:32:06

in college a lot of these guys best players

1:32:08

on the field like if I wait a little

1:32:10

bit longer we might be able to get a

1:32:12

45 yarder as opposed to a seven yarder some

1:32:14

reckless throws but he was picking a part

1:32:17

did it feel like you were in the middle

1:32:20

of a meeting like Devin McCorden that was nice

1:32:22

that was a lot nicer than what goes on

1:32:25

in the meetings those Monday morning lowlights and it

1:32:27

doesn't matter how much you win by how much

1:32:29

you lose you can win a game you know 31 10 you

1:32:32

know at some point you're a bad player it's

1:32:34

gonna show up you don't see that you don't

1:32:36

see that a lot in the NFL media rooms

1:32:38

especially when it comes to star players and somebody

1:32:40

told us was like hey you know if Brady

1:32:42

let me chew his ass pause everybody else is

1:32:44

kind of going fall in line so that's where

1:32:47

it started I thought we all bad moon rising

1:32:49

Andrei rising stories about bill so that's

1:32:52

why you love him you appreciate him after the

1:32:54

fact as a player and you don't see that

1:32:56

anywhere else the draft Mike is drafted yep top

1:32:58

five pick age eight is my first ballot Hall

1:33:00

of Famer so all the good things all the

1:33:02

highlights so to be critical somewhere and obviously when

1:33:04

it's coming from the goat you got to be

1:33:06

accepted it kind of sounds like you have some

1:33:08

experience that he do any of your plays when

1:33:10

you when you're playing there did you break did

1:33:13

you make any history yeah so

1:33:15

my first game first game ever

1:33:18

first game ever NFL

1:33:21

game bills hatred

1:33:24

this was you know teal Roscoe Pierce

1:33:26

for exact same song weapons no they

1:33:28

were good team yeah that's some weapons

1:33:30

but it comes down to the last possession last

1:33:32

play of the game is one of those hey

1:33:35

throw it tight in catch it tosses it back

1:33:37

to Roscoe toss it back to T.O. annexation of

1:33:39

Puerto Rico I'm running around like a tickle my

1:33:41

head cut off a buck 70 soaking wet I'm

1:33:44

in there playing and just bouncing off these guys

1:33:46

left and wrong getting shook so

1:33:48

once again we win the game so I'm like should we good

1:33:51

you know I want he goes through all

1:33:53

the plays and obviously my play is the last one

1:33:55

we get to and he said I've been in an

1:33:57

NFL coaching for 38 years And

1:34:00

I have never seen one player miss

1:34:03

five tackles So

1:34:06

he ran the play and it was a obviously got

1:34:08

a good pop out of room and I had to

1:34:10

tackle Ben Jarvis Green Ellis in a lot or five

1:34:12

weeks after practice. So yeah, that's build up He

1:34:18

told a story last night and as you were

1:34:21

telling the story he was like, oh, yeah He

1:34:24

said five. I Do

1:34:27

remember that whole thing the room's laughing though in

1:34:29

your face at that moment Oh, yeah, I probably

1:34:31

said something dumb to lie. I'm hustling, you

1:34:33

know Pretty

1:34:36

oppressive this problem was label. Yeah, you know the

1:34:38

room let it eat. Ladies and gentlemen joining us now

1:34:41

is a Heisman

1:34:44

winner Ladies

1:34:47

and gentlemen, Reggie Bush Love

1:35:10

Hey, good love from New Orleans up

1:35:12

to Detroit obviously massive move you are

1:35:14

an electrifying football player from

1:35:17

Lily the first time I watch you the

1:35:20

last time I saw I mean you were a game changer

1:35:23

Let's talk about the news right now.

1:35:25

Yes, they're chanting you deserve it. We

1:35:27

all agree. Everybody was sound mind Knows

1:35:30

that you were the best football player in college

1:35:32

football in 2005 How do we get

1:35:35

to this point? Did you ever lose hope that maybe

1:35:37

it was never gonna happen and when you

1:35:39

finally get told that it's taking place What

1:35:41

are the feelings more than you expected less than

1:35:43

you expected? Where you at in the whole thing?

1:35:46

Well, when I first got the news,

1:35:48

you know, I was excited Obviously

1:35:51

because this is a fight that

1:35:54

we've been fighting for a

1:35:56

very long time and You

1:35:58

know, I'm fine. I'm happy that the Heisman

1:36:00

Trust made the right decision, did the right

1:36:02

thing, got the trophy back. And

1:36:06

obviously, like I said, I was excited when I got the

1:36:08

news, but I've always felt like I

1:36:10

was gonna get the Heisman Trophy back, always. I

1:36:12

just didn't know how long it was gonna take.

1:36:16

And it didn't matter to me how

1:36:18

long it took as well. I was gonna fight

1:36:20

until it could have been another 20 years, I

1:36:22

was gonna continue to fight for it. So I'm

1:36:24

just happy that it happened now. Yeah, hell yeah,

1:36:26

and it's a prestigious group, obviously,

1:36:28

that you've turned your way into,

1:36:31

as this is all taking place, a

1:36:33

lot of your highlights are resurfacing. You

1:36:37

watch it, you have to, right? We're

1:36:39

watching those, and we're reminding ourselves of what

1:36:41

we used to do to dudes. It

1:36:43

was every week, every

1:36:45

game, electricity. I'm

1:36:48

sure going through the old highlights, has there been nostalgia?

1:36:50

Have you gone out and started running, see if you

1:36:52

still got it, what's it been like? You

1:36:57

know, anytime I get a chance to watch my

1:36:59

old highlights, usually with my kids, my

1:37:01

kids love to bring up my highlights, and that

1:37:03

to me is the best part, when my kids are

1:37:06

wanting to watch it. Beautiful block. That

1:37:08

was an amazing block right there, too, by

1:37:11

Fred Matua. But it's mostly

1:37:13

with my kids, man, when I get a chance to

1:37:15

watch my highlights, because they love bringing them up, and

1:37:18

that's a very full circle moment for me.

1:37:21

Any chance I get a chance to do that

1:37:23

with my kids, and just

1:37:25

show them the things that daddy did on the football

1:37:28

field, and they can take that to school, and

1:37:30

be proud of that, and have her at the field. Well,

1:37:33

Reggie, I was at school at the

1:37:35

same time you were, and I had

1:37:38

Pat White and Steve Slayton on my

1:37:40

team, and I watched them do

1:37:42

electrifying things, and then we watched prime time

1:37:44

games, and you were on, and it was

1:37:46

just elected, that era of college football, so

1:37:48

good, and you

1:37:51

were a massive piece of it, happy you got

1:37:53

your Heisman back. D-Block got a question for you,

1:37:55

Reggie? Absolutely, thank you once again for those highlights.

1:37:57

It was you and Peter Ward, P-Dug, when it

1:37:59

came to highlights. For me, but

1:38:01

who was it? Who did you watch it kind of

1:38:03

model your game after we had Barry on the set?

1:38:05

I'm gonna assume Barry Sanders is one of those guys

1:38:07

Be in the way that he played and how you

1:38:09

played but who was that guy or those guys to

1:38:12

model after and then a second Question, how's the golf

1:38:14

game right now? See you grinding? Cap

1:38:16

I need no description weaknesses right now just in case we

1:38:18

have a cross pass Let

1:38:22

me ask you first question man, very Sanders

1:38:30

But it was it was really very man It

1:38:35

didn't matter Right

1:38:37

it felt like you couldn't touch him you couldn't

1:38:40

get a hand on them and It

1:38:42

also it almost looked like magic, right? Yeah,

1:38:44

and that was the thing that

1:38:46

I wanted to pattern myself after you know that

1:38:48

I saw from Barry was just the way that

1:38:51

he Played the game the charisma head he had

1:38:53

the heart that he played with But it

1:38:55

was also just the ability to look like a

1:38:57

magician on the football field and that's something that

1:38:59

nobody can take away From me. I don't care

1:39:02

who it is. He's a double a whatever it

1:39:04

nobody You

1:39:06

just said four letters there. They're so dumb I

1:39:08

couldn't imagine how you feel about it and obviously

1:39:10

thought their decision for that even though they banned

1:39:12

you I think for 10 years From

1:39:15

USC I assume with this Heisman and

1:39:17

getting back around campus and Lincoln Riley

1:39:20

We're gonna have some sort of celebration has that

1:39:22

been fun to to kind of get the flowers

1:39:24

from the school that loves you They haven't been

1:39:26

able to for some time Absolutely.

1:39:28

Absolutely. You know USC is always been my

1:39:30

school has always been in my heart You

1:39:34

know and I can't wait to get back

1:39:36

there and celebrate man that Heisman celebration Last

1:39:45

question here Connor for you Reggie. Yeah, right you

1:39:48

obviously were at the NFL Draft and you know

1:39:50

no running backs in the first round and you

1:39:52

know I think Sean Payton told the story a

1:39:54

couple years ago to us about how stunned he

1:39:56

was that he fell to you guys I mean

1:39:58

that was a pick maybe Is

1:40:00

it weird watching that and do you feel like

1:40:02

that might be a trend going forward

1:40:04

with these running backs? Well,

1:40:07

you know, I hope to see the running

1:40:09

back market big to get back up to where

1:40:12

I think it needs to be because running

1:40:14

backs take a beating every time they step out

1:40:16

on that football field. They're the

1:40:18

workhorses of the teams and,

1:40:20

you know, I still believe that there

1:40:23

is a space for running backs and

1:40:25

running the football is

1:40:27

going to get back into, you know, into our

1:40:29

game. I know it's a passing league

1:40:31

right now, but, you know, again,

1:40:34

when I got drafted to New Orleans Saints,

1:40:36