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3:05

Here's a little example of how they

3:07

reacted. You're going to be shocked. Chalked

3:10

watch. And the judge threatening the

3:12

ex-president with jail time. It's really clear

3:14

that the judge is depending on the

3:16

seriousness of the next violation, contemplating putting

3:18

him in jail. I mean, and frankly,

3:20

if that happens, it's not going to

3:22

be because of anything that Sean did,

3:24

it's going to be Donald Trump's own

3:27

choice. I know from my own reporting, I'm sure

3:29

you do too, that Trump didn't eat

3:31

on foreign trips because he was so

3:33

afraid of germs. There's no way Trump

3:35

himself wants to go to jail.

3:37

Certainly not many black defendants who, if they

3:39

came this close to the line, would have

3:42

already been held in contempt of court and

3:44

would have been incarcerated by now. And so

3:46

he is getting the dewist of process. And

3:48

the idea that Donald Trump actually would want

3:50

to go to jail is ridiculous. Anyone who

3:52

knows him knows that he doesn't even like

3:54

to stay in a hotel. He won't

3:56

eat food when it goes on foreign territory. You

3:58

have to use the bathroom. His

4:01

hair, his makeup, his skin, like he will

4:03

be pulled apart. He

4:07

doesn't have the metal to do it,

4:09

so Donald Trump is terrified. You've got

4:11

to believe just by his

4:13

issues with odors and smells

4:15

and fear of

4:18

disease. He

4:20

threw down the gauntlet. If he doesn't

4:22

throw Trump in jail, he would look

4:24

entirely like a paper tiger, and Trump

4:26

got that message. How

4:28

much bravado? You know, this is

4:31

not somebody who's thinking, you know, and I'm going

4:33

to have a really great time at Rikers. Can

4:35

I just make this the point in the program when

4:37

we say no, this is normal? Oh

4:41

my God. Honestly, Nicole Wallace is the worst.

4:43

She's the worst. Why she barely

4:45

moves her lips when she's speaking. She barely has,

4:47

it's just like a little hole that words come

4:49

out of. I can't quite get it. It's

4:51

like I just yesterday. And she's so sanctimonious

4:53

but vacant. She can't, she doesn't know

4:55

anything. She knows nothing about what Trump's

4:57

habits are when he travels overseas. None

5:00

of them does, but they want to pretend like they're in

5:02

the room with him, in the bedroom, in

5:04

the bathroom, in the dining room with Trump, and they

5:06

can tell you exactly how he's going to respond if

5:08

he gets a day in jail. Well,

5:11

look, she knows nothing about Donald Trump's habits.

5:13

She probably knows even less about the law

5:15

or an understanding or care about that as

5:17

well. And I think that manner

5:19

of speech is really funny. I don't like to pick on

5:21

these minor details, but you actually hit the nail on the

5:23

head there. It's sort of this

5:26

air of sanctimony, right? The air, the

5:28

vibe of authority without actually having

5:30

any of the content of that authority. And

5:32

I think that's what so many of the

5:34

modern media have actually become is the air,

5:37

the genteel sort of at the

5:39

spirit of having authority in the manner that

5:41

you speak, the sanctimony that drips from it,

5:43

but without having the first basis of an

5:45

understanding of how the law or the constitution

5:47

works. And so it's completely backwards versus somebody

5:49

who actually didn't speak with the right mannerism

5:51

but actually knew what they were talking about.

5:53

That would be far preferable to me. Now,

5:56

the schadenfreude, the level of rejoicing

5:58

in somebody else. is suffering.

6:00

I've never seen something like this, but we

6:02

know that's exactly what we're to expect here

6:04

from the media. They've been playing for this

6:07

for a long time. The entire plot has

6:09

been to really portray Donald Trump as a

6:12

criminal. That's been, I think, a big part

6:14

of the Democratic Party's goal in this objectionable

6:16

pursuit of prosecutions against him. So it's no

6:18

surprise that the media has played interference for

6:20

them on so many other topics is going

6:23

to run interference here as well. I think

6:25

that's the less interesting part. Then to examine what

6:28

is exactly the consequence here. Let's say Donald

6:30

Trump is, God forbid, I think

6:32

it'd be bad for the country, but thrown in jail. I

6:35

do think that they've kind of put themselves

6:37

in a box here because Donald Trump believes, I

6:39

believe correctly, that this is an affront to

6:41

the Constitution. He has a right to speak in

6:43

the middle of an election. He's running to

6:45

lead this country to be the commander in chief.

6:48

So for him to buckle at the behest

6:50

of what this judge who has no regard for

6:52

the law or the Constitution on this set

6:54

of issues, I think would be a bad outcome.

6:56

So I think Donald Trump should continue to

6:58

express his opinions because he's running

7:00

for US president and both he and

7:02

the country deserve to hear his opinions

7:05

on a matter of public importance. But the judge has now

7:07

put himself in a box going out of his way. He

7:09

didn't have to do this, but going

7:11

out of his way to be able

7:13

to threaten jail time. I think that

7:15

that is something that unfortunately sets this

7:17

up as a reasonably likely outcome. And

7:20

you know what? Donald Trump's made a lot of sacrifices

7:22

for the country, running for president, serving as US president.

7:24

This wouldn't be the biggest of them. And so

7:26

I think it would set a terrible precedent. I

7:28

think it's going to be bad for the country,

7:30

but I think it is reasonably likely that it

7:32

does end up there. And as sad as that

7:34

is, it's exactly what you would

7:37

predict once you've opened Pandora's box with

7:39

these prosecutions based on really no figment

7:41

of the legal theory to back it

7:43

up against a former president, a man

7:45

running for US president in the middle of an election.

7:48

This is just the necessary consequence and all

7:50

the drama that follows. It's

7:52

unfortunately what they signed up for in the first place. And I think

7:54

that this is just the tip of the iceberg of what we're going

7:56

to see in the next six months. They're

7:58

thrilled about it. because they want

8:01

his humiliation. That's what you heard them talking

8:03

about, well, how he's not gonna be able to

8:05

have his hair the way he

8:08

wants it. They want his humiliation. That's

8:10

why they were so angry that he

8:12

leaned into his mugshot and went on the

8:15

mugs and it went on T-shirts. And so

8:17

they're waiting for him to be humbled,

8:19

to be humiliated. And they

8:22

keep waiting for the next chapter. Maybe Judge Michonne

8:24

will get him there when he throws him behind

8:26

jail bars and we can watch that and revel.

8:29

The media, of course, has been a massive problem.

8:31

You experienced it when you were running and before

8:33

and after. This is a

8:35

small ball story, but it's indicative. There

8:38

was a reporter for NBC News and she

8:40

moved on to CNN. Her

8:43

name is Michelle Kaczynski. And

8:45

she posted a thread on X last night.

8:47

She was very well known at both of

8:49

those outlets. A

8:52

thread on X last night, revealing

8:54

her horror at a

8:57

dinner she recently had with people who turned

8:59

out to be MAGA. At

9:02

first, she said, they seemed great on the

9:05

surface for like an hour. And

9:07

then she says the closeted

9:09

guests over a few drinks

9:11

began to slip their true

9:13

MAGA natures. And

9:16

she says, she marvels at how a quote,

9:18

normal group of people could support a

9:20

politician like Trump of

9:23

whom she does not approve. Going

9:25

here from the Daily Mail report. One of the couples

9:29

attended top Ivy League colleges.

9:32

She writes, but now that it was

9:34

university time for their own children, they

9:36

were adamantly not letting them apply to

9:38

any Ivy's and were weird about explaining

9:40

why, though the kids were double legacies.

9:43

Okay, moving on. She

9:46

criticizes their position on quote, climate change.

9:48

And the fact that they use that

9:50

term in air quotes,

9:52

not scientists clearly, and goes on

9:54

from there. Now, Vivek,

9:57

this is a woman who I've been around in the media. long

10:00

enough to remember. Left

10:02

NBC was pushed out, I believe, shortly

10:05

after the following incident, which went

10:07

everywhere. She was doing a report

10:09

on flooding after a hurricane in

10:12

some American town, and she did the

10:14

report from a canoe as

10:16

though she was stranded. This is the only

10:19

way to get around. And in

10:21

the middle of her live shot, firefighters

10:23

walked through the live shot

10:27

with the water up to their ankles.

10:29

We actually pulled the clip just to show

10:31

you. I mean, this is the dishonest media

10:33

in a snapshot. Watch this. NBC's

10:36

Michelle Kaczynski, I guess she's in

10:38

the canoe, is in Wayne,

10:40

New Jersey this morning. Michelle, good morning to you.

10:44

Good morning. Well, obviously we're getting

10:46

a nice break from the rain, but

10:48

not the flooding. This is essentially now

10:50

part of the Passaic River in this

10:52

neighborhood. Well, I'll take it. Is there some kind

10:54

of severe drop-off there between the foreground?

10:56

He'll come back. We saw these guys a

10:59

second ago. Michelle walking, are these

11:01

holy men walking on top of water? What's

11:03

going on here? Why walk when you can ride,

11:05

you guys? When you have a ride

11:07

like this, why would you want to walk? Is

11:10

your oar hitting ground, Michelle? Of

11:13

course not. That

11:17

was the end of her career. That's my opinion. At NBC,

11:19

she was gone shortly there. Now she wants to

11:21

lecture us all on how

11:23

evil Magga is and her horror at

11:26

being exposed to the closeted Republicans and

11:28

their views on the IVs and climate

11:30

change and so on. What do you

11:33

make of it? You

11:35

know, the people at that dinner party remind me

11:37

probably likely of the firemen who were just walking

11:39

right past her. People who actually probably had something

11:41

more worthy to do that were actually there for

11:44

purpose, had little regard for her presence there or

11:46

whatever antics she was taking on. And,

11:48

you know, it probably looks like a woman who's been doing

11:50

this her entire career. So it seems like the same pattern

11:53

continues. This is a big part of the reason

11:55

I'm actually, there's a lot of things

11:57

I'm looking at doing with my time, but launching, relaunching

11:59

a pop. Why am I going to take the time to do that

12:01

is just gives me a motivation exactly

12:03

engage in the kind of conversations

12:05

that American people are hungry for,

12:07

regardless of what the mainstream media

12:09

is stuffing down their throats. And

12:12

I think it just typifies how the whole thing

12:14

has actually become a charade. It's not just a

12:16

sort of form of lying, Megan. I think mainstream

12:18

media has lied about a whole range of topics.

12:20

And I've talked about this extensively during the race.

12:22

You've talked about it extensively for the last 10

12:24

years. Nonetheless, I think it's

12:27

not just the lie. It's the pageantry around

12:29

the lie that I think is actually far more bothersome.

12:31

It's a production. It's almost like it's not

12:33

just a lie. A lie is any

12:35

more pretending to be that you're in the

12:38

interest of objective news, but you're telling somebody

12:40

false information. I think it's become closer to

12:42

like a Broadway production in the same way

12:44

that she's putting on a show. She

12:47

recognizes and they're even talking about it on air.

12:49

Why would you walk when you could instead

12:51

be pretending to row? That's effectively

12:54

what they're doing in the totality of their

12:56

other reporting too is she could just be

12:58

talking about the actual disagreements, the policy disagreements

13:00

that she has between Republicans who are in

13:02

that same room. And there's such a more

13:04

interesting direction to go. It's like the equivalent

13:06

of if she had just been reporting and interviewing this

13:08

fireman, but instead what they're actually

13:10

creating is an alternative production that I think

13:14

historically that business, maybe they think they're entertaining

13:16

their audience, but it isn't even entertaining anymore.

13:20

And I think that once you see that you get

13:22

closer to the flame of what's going on. It's not

13:25

just their spewing falsehood. It's like the equivalent of putting

13:27

on a theatrical production and

13:30

one that like most theatrical productions is failing. And I think

13:32

that that's why it's going to come to an end very

13:34

soon. You've set up my

13:36

next clip perfectly, which is of Lawrence O'Donnell. Speaking

13:38

of NBC, this is him

13:41

on MSNBC freaking

13:43

out about the fact that yesterday at

13:45

Trump's trial, what they spent most of

13:47

the day doing was documenting the payments

13:50

that were ultimately made to Stormy Daniels

13:53

and the receipts of how that was done. Of

13:57

Course, no one's denying that the payment

13:59

was made. But they need to get that in

14:01

front of the jury will. Not an exciting game. In

14:03

court, but it was Dilorenzo.i'll

14:06

watch. They

14:08

wrote it down. With.

14:10

Conspiracy. Was. Written

14:12

out on paper, That

14:15

is rare in criminal prosecutions.

14:17

Prosecutors are usually left explaining

14:19

to juries. But yeah, no,

14:22

criminal conspirators don't write it

14:24

all down. But.

14:26

That is what they did. In

14:29

the Trump office on Fifth Avenue and

14:31

In the White House. Today

14:33

Donald Trump's jury was shown

14:36

v hand written conspiracy Sol

14:38

Trump's financial mastermind convicted felon

14:41

Ellen Wasn't Bird. Put.

14:43

The Conspiracy. In

14:45

his handwriting. On.

14:47

Michael Collins bank statements and

14:49

then another financial officer in

14:51

the Trump Shop. The whole

14:53

thing in his handwriting. On

14:56

Trump company station or final handwriting

14:58

in the conspiracy Present the jury

15:01

Today We're Donald Trump's signatures. How.

15:05

Long as they get breaking news. kira up

15:07

the entire time. Breaking news. Is

15:09

it's. Sit. Know it's try to hire

15:11

rec we we understood. That. The payments were

15:14

made. This is a perfunctory day in

15:16

court. This was not the apex of the

15:18

prosecution's case, but. The. Media. as

15:22

it is like crack to them.

15:24

That's right of it's it's an addiction

15:27

is a breaking news. You like breaking

15:29

the news, like breaking the existence of

15:31

actually distinguishing what is important. Report to

15:33

the public versus not. In

15:35

is it just bothers economic? He has no Cohen.

15:37

He's describing this to his. Audience space as

15:39

they wrote down the conspiracy Just if

15:41

you had any first idea of the

15:44

backdrop of with this case is about

15:46

like with says he had the first

15:48

clue about this case this allegation of

15:50

falsifying business records right which is the

15:53

first and state based the New York

15:55

based charge that Album Bragg is bringing.

15:58

A this outside the statute of limitations, but. The

16:00

utmost. Even if the alleged

16:02

could, presenting a lot of that is actually

16:05

also false and mischaracterized, but at most that

16:07

would be charged and could only be charged

16:09

under the law. As. A misdemeanor.

16:11

Unless you make up all of

16:13

this other nonsense about this being

16:15

a constructive campaign contribution that wouldn't

16:17

recorded as a campaign contribution which

16:20

as we talked about before. Rests

16:22

on a completely floored legal theory on

16:24

it's own and is completely misleading the

16:26

audience of quitting again. That atmosphere. It's

16:29

all the atmosphere is all about. vibe.

16:31

Of pretending. Like this is some

16:33

sort of devious conspiracy and you put up

16:36

images of different hand documents. The eyes of

16:38

know what to make of it. And the

16:40

whole point isn't that their audiences too stupid

16:42

to follow. It's the fact that these people

16:44

reporting to that more actually do stupid a

16:46

report on it, but have just created this

16:49

atmosphere despite the equivalent of that other woman

16:51

with a theatrical production rolling across that river

16:53

when in fact, the he could have just

16:55

walked straight across it as we saw in

16:57

real time. That's the equivalent of what they're

17:00

doing with their portrayal of. These. Documents

17:02

when in fact the average viewer is it was.

17:04

If it's if if you what you need is

17:06

actually somebody explaining to them what's actually going on.

17:08

the global of those firefighters walk and straight across

17:10

and that's what's missing in most of the media

17:13

today. But. Then. We get to sit

17:15

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17:32

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liability case. You could be talking about 30,000 people

20:04

losing their job if you fail to

20:06

argue this motion successfully. If you cannot

20:08

function because you're a little stressed out,

20:11

you're going to be a shitty lawyer.

20:13

Find a different job. It's not

20:15

about canceling your exam. They go

20:17

on to say, this

20:20

follows the growing distress that many of

20:22

us have felt for months. Our

20:25

students are not well.

20:27

On that, I agree with them. Victor,

20:30

this is so pathetic. One

20:33

thing that I like, I don't like

20:35

it, but we have got moral clarity

20:37

about all these demonstrations. They've just blown

20:39

up a lot of the left charades.

20:42

We've known, anybody who's been in the

20:45

so-called elite campus has known for years

20:47

that they're mediocre. At Stanford where I

20:49

work, they let in only 20% of

20:51

the student body is

20:54

so-called white. That's not important,

20:56

but it is important that they threw out the

20:58

fat and they don't rate

21:00

comparative GPAs to achieve that. And

21:03

so they are letting in students who

21:05

by their own definition cannot do the

21:07

work that they themselves used

21:10

to require because they

21:12

were in competition with other universities and said,

21:14

we're preeminent. Now what are they doing? They're

21:16

giving 60 to 80% A's

21:18

at all these campuses. They're

21:21

watering down the courses, have to workload

21:23

or they're introducing new courses. And

21:25

then they're creating these helicopter privilege,

21:29

helicopter parented students

21:31

and everybody's watching us. And

21:34

they're thinking, wow, these

21:36

kids tore up the Portland State

21:39

Library. They were like animals, they destroyed

21:41

it. Wow, did you see what they

21:43

did at USC and UCLA? They made

21:45

a mess, it's worse than a homeless

21:48

camp. And then, you know who has

21:50

to clean it up? All these poor maintenance people. And

21:53

they roughed up a janitor at Columbia. And

21:56

there's all these poor middle-class policemen they

21:58

spit in. And then... there's, uh,

22:00

Byron Donalds come here and they

22:02

call him Uncle Tom and a

22:05

traitor, this, uh, Middle Eastern

22:07

students, and they shall, you know, go back

22:09

to Poland or the final solution. We

22:12

don't like these people. They're spoiled.

22:15

I think Americans are concluding that

22:17

they're spoiled. We don't like these

22:19

administrators and presidents that won't stop

22:21

it and they're scared. And we

22:23

understand why it continues because the

22:25

faculty, the president, the blue state

22:27

city, city council, the blue city

22:30

mayor, the blue state governor, they all

22:32

agree with the agendas of this, these

22:34

left wing students. And that's been really

22:36

a lot of moral clarity. A lot

22:39

of it is we always were told

22:41

you can be against Israel, but you you're not

22:43

anti-Semitic. They're showing you that they're one in the

22:46

same. Every time they try to rough up a

22:48

Jewish kid or chase them into the library, they

22:50

never say, right, before we do this, you

22:52

look Jewish to us. Uh,

22:54

could I ask you if you support Israel or

22:56

not? They don't. And the same

22:59

thing about, well, we're for Palestine, but we're,

23:01

we're not for terrorists like Hamas. They are,

23:03

they're the same. They have flags are there.

23:05

They have Hezbollah banners. And

23:07

another myth that they blew up is, Oh,

23:10

the democratic party has this

23:12

base, the kind of crazy

23:15

base, you know, transgender issues,

23:17

open borders, the squad, Bernie

23:19

Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, uh,

23:21

the black caucus. Uh, but this

23:23

is not the, they're one in

23:25

the same. Joe Biden cannot open

23:27

his mouth about any of this

23:29

without saying Islamophobia. He

23:31

cannot just say this is an

23:34

anti-Semitic. This is what

23:36

the democratic party is in total. And

23:39

Joe Biden, to the degree he knows he's

23:41

there, the people around him, his wife and

23:43

the Obama advisors, this party

23:45

now is completely Jacob and left

23:47

wing. And there is no base.

23:50

And then maybe there's a

23:52

Federman or two, but that's

23:54

it. And that party

23:56

is committed to open borders. They're

23:58

committed to these. demonstrations.

24:00

They are anti-Semitic.

24:02

They do not

24:04

like Israel. They

24:06

rejuvenated Iran by design.

24:09

And that's who they are. And I

24:11

think American people are seeing that today.

24:15

And the longer this goes on, it's going to

24:17

hurt them. The

24:19

exchange between the protesters at

24:22

SUNY New Paltz and

24:24

the head of the school there, it was

24:27

infuriating. It reminded

24:29

me of what happened at Evergreen in

24:32

Washington state. The

24:34

smugness of these protesters

24:36

as though they

24:38

hold all the cards and

24:40

the capitulation of the

24:43

head of school who was coming at

24:45

it from the same angle. Like he

24:47

has no negotiating power

24:49

and they're completely in charge. It

24:52

again makes my skin crawl. Here it is

24:54

a bit in sot 3. This

24:57

isn't ending until our demands are met.

24:59

We don't control the contract pieces the

25:02

way you've laid it out. Okay, but

25:04

it's all money. We

25:06

are giving you the money. And so we

25:09

are paying your bills. We are

25:11

paying your paycheck. It is your

25:13

responsibility, President Wheeler, it is your

25:15

responsibility to figure

25:17

it out. What

25:19

I would like to do is

25:22

to work with you

25:24

to bring your concerns to where

25:26

they are. Come here, okay,

25:28

come back to what they say. And

25:31

I want- You have a card with the demands

25:33

on it. You can take it to your people.

25:35

I hear what you're saying and I

25:37

also have to say that I would rather, because

25:40

not estimate the

25:42

way other campuses, because you all have

25:44

done a phenomenal job. That is your

25:46

responsibility. And that association will come

25:48

from the police. Good.

25:51

I hope they like- I hope that gentleman

25:53

gets- he likes this, because he's going to

25:55

get a whole lot more of it. And

25:57

so too will Northwestern Rutgers University of Michigan.

26:00

of Minnesota, all of whom have caved

26:02

to the demands of the protesters. They're all

26:04

on bended knee, begging for these students to

26:07

forgive them for being so awful

26:09

in their alleged support of Israel.

26:11

They're creating things like an Arab

26:13

culture center at Rutgers, a

26:15

Department of Palestinian Studies. And

26:18

on it goes. They they're not fighting

26:20

them. They're like, you know what? You're right about

26:22

everything. Take over our campus. And here's our new Arab

26:24

center. Yeah. And

26:26

all all he had to say was, I

26:29

want to remind you, it's not your money.

26:31

You pay tuition, which is a fraction of

26:33

our expenses. Here's where the

26:36

money goes and comes from. It comes

26:38

from the taxpayer. They

26:40

give us tax free income on

26:42

our endowments. They subsidize

26:44

your student loans to

26:46

this tune of one point

26:48

seven trillion dollars. They give us

26:51

massive federal grants. The endowment such

26:53

as it is at these schools

26:55

comes from alumni who give money.

26:57

That was their money. And without

27:00

it, you wouldn't be here. You

27:02

are subsidizing every aspect. You think

27:04

it's expensive? It would be twice

27:06

as expensive. And he could

27:09

he could easily say that. All we have

27:11

to do is I think just we're just

27:13

looking for one person who says Ben

27:15

Sasse was really good when he said, no,

27:18

we're not going to do that. The University

27:20

of Florida and they would fold. You just

27:22

have to say we saw that with the

27:24

Arizona State Union young woman who was

27:27

kicked out and she's she broke into

27:29

tears and sobbed. I can't believe this

27:31

is happening to me. This generation is

27:33

is their hothouse plants

27:35

and they need to be exposed to the real

27:37

weather. And I think I

27:39

think it, you know, I really I know this

27:42

sounds crazy, but I really do believe after being

27:44

on the Stanford campus and watching

27:46

Harvard and Yale and Princeton

27:48

and Columbia, they are

27:50

going the way of Bud Light, CNN, Target

27:54

and Disney. They don't know

27:57

it because we're in the you can't stand out and

27:59

say, but A lot of people are

28:01

not going to send their kids there and

28:04

they're going to lower their standards to get more

28:06

people to come in because the top students will

28:08

not go there. Employers will

28:10

say, if I hire that graduate, they

28:13

won't know how to analyze, they won't be

28:16

skilled in composition or oral fluency,

28:18

they won't be mathematically competent, but

28:20

they will go to human resources

28:22

the day they get here. I

28:25

don't want those people in

28:28

my company and I think that's going to happen.

28:31

And they're destroying their brand. And

28:33

you watch these students. Every time we see one speak up,

28:35

like in that last video, it's very clear there's somebody

28:37

who's very gender confused leading the charge there.

28:39

I don't know what it was. It was a he

28:41

or a she or what they go by. But Joseph

28:43

Massey, our favorite poet, he was calling them Osama non-binary.

28:46

And that's exactly right when you

28:48

look at these videos. Osama non-binary

28:50

would really want us to

28:52

offer more support for Hamas. And

28:55

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28:57

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You don't have to hide how you feel. She

30:05

has been pretended to

30:08

be ultra conservative in a very

30:10

red state. And

30:12

what she does is the moment

30:14

she's challenged on something, she runs the same

30:16

routine, the same playbook that she always has

30:19

in the past. And

30:21

like, for example, on the transgender bill, she tweeted

30:23

that she was going to do it. And

30:26

then she just created this whole nonsense about how, well,

30:28

no, actually, I never said it. Well,

30:31

it's in writing, you clearly said it. But

30:33

she exploits, I think, a sense

30:35

of identity and a sense of

30:38

people feeling like they have a connection to her

30:41

because of her personal story or whatever it might

30:43

be. And then she always

30:45

goes on offense. And so she essentially, there's like

30:47

a little mini gnome cult in the moment that

30:49

you call her to to

30:51

account. She

30:53

all of a sudden gets angry

30:55

at you and she doesn't take accountability for it.

30:58

And this is probably on COVID. She

31:00

also decided not to protect people from

31:02

vaccine mandates, private ones in her

31:05

state. Ron DeSantis made a different choice, but she

31:07

got very upset. That's one of the things that

31:09

you guys you guys fought over and had

31:12

to dust up whatever. Here's a little bit of that from

31:14

2021. And I'm

31:16

not governor anymore. How do I

31:18

know the next governor won't use that exact same

31:20

precedent to use it to limit the freedom? But

31:22

you are the governor now, Governor Knome. And

31:24

right now we're at a point where there

31:26

are mandates going. People are having to get

31:29

shots right now. People are

31:31

facing losing their jobs right

31:33

now. Why not be a person who is

31:35

taking a stand in favor of

31:37

individual freedom, which I believe is actually

31:39

the primary purpose of the Constitution? Why

31:41

not do that? And there is nobody

31:43

in this country that would say that

31:46

I no other governor took more heat

31:48

over defending liberty and freedom than I did

31:50

this last year. I mean, I think Governor Ron DeSantis

31:52

might disagree, but keep going. Keep

31:56

going. Oh,

31:59

it's just so obvious. And the truth

32:01

is that she always points to not shutting down

32:03

her state during COVID. I haven't even gotten to

32:05

the dog shooting. The bragging about

32:07

the dog shooting. We're going there and we

32:09

have the audio. The dog shooting

32:11

on top of the dog shooting and then making a

32:14

joke about how she wants to shoot the president's existing

32:16

dog. This is like sociopathic. I'm

32:18

sorry, I don't want to jump

32:20

around too much. She's like

32:22

a serial killer. Oh, I mean

32:24

on COVID I sniffed this out because she was playing

32:26

this whole game and I saw what she did to

32:28

Tucker on TV and I've seen when she's tried with

32:31

other people, which is everyone else is dumb but

32:33

her. You know, when you're speaking to some

32:35

of the smartest minds in media

32:37

and you're speaking to people that have been in

32:39

this game a while and your response is always,

32:42

you just don't know enough, sir. This

32:44

is how we do it on the ranch or whatever. You're

32:47

the problem. And that's been the case with

32:49

Kristina O'Neal for a long time. Her aggressive

32:51

strategy, the little cult she's built around her and people,

32:53

oh, this is what I wanted to get to before. I've

32:57

been a woman who's known my work for a long time. I mentioned this to go on

32:59

your show. I don't attack people on

33:01

the right. I generally have no enemies to

33:03

the right. I don't pick fights with people.

33:06

I love the success of fellow radio

33:08

hosts. I mean, I applaud the Daily

33:11

Wire doing cool stuff. I love Dan

33:13

Bongino fighting for America. Like I'm on

33:15

the team. But when I see

33:18

somebody who's being a fraud and

33:20

taking advantage of people on my side

33:22

who are well-intentioned and who will want

33:24

freedom and who want effective and competent

33:26

leadership, it does bother me. When they're being lied

33:28

to in a way that I think affects them.

33:31

So that's where the original thing with Nome came

33:33

up. And now, yeah, I mean, I was right.

33:35

I was right all along and I'm right now.

33:37

And some of the people that had emailed me

33:39

years ago, why are you being so hard on

33:41

her? I was like, because she's a phony. And

33:44

now everyone knows she's actually kind of worse than a phony. She's

33:48

a phoney. She's a poser. And

33:50

she won't be honest about her

33:53

own shortcomings, even when she's caught red-handed.

33:55

That exchange with Jesse Waters, I

33:57

don't have conversations about my conversations. with

34:00

world leaders. No one's asking

34:02

you about substance. We're

34:05

asking you, did you meet with him or

34:07

didn't you? You're the one who brought it

34:09

up, ma'am. You put it

34:11

in your book. Did it happen or didn't

34:13

it? And by the way, when you

34:15

then claim when it was brought to my, who brought

34:17

it to your attention? When? Why

34:20

did you read the audiobook? When you read Out Loud,

34:22

I met with Kim Jong Un and I stared him down.

34:24

Did it occur to you that you were telling a

34:26

lie? Because most of us would have a very clear memory

34:28

if we had met with the leader of North Korea.

34:31

It's kind of a big deal. Did you correct

34:33

it then? Were you embarrassed? Did

34:35

you go back through tooth and comb over

34:37

your entire ghost written memoir to make sure

34:39

there were no other errors? Because you also

34:41

appeared to have lied about a meeting with

34:44

Emmanuel Macron. How many lies are there in

34:46

this book and why should we believe you

34:48

on anything, especially now your revisionist history about

34:50

why you really shot your puppy, which she's

34:52

now claiming the dog was basically a serial

34:54

killer and not her? It

34:57

was a 14 month old dog of

34:59

a breed that I'm familiar with and

35:01

have dealt with in the past. The

35:04

notion that that kind of a dog is a threat to

35:06

people. Again, she's

35:08

lying. And for anyone

35:10

who's like, well, why are we spending time

35:12

on this? She was the number one VP

35:14

candidate according to the betting markets. And

35:17

this is the kind of thing in a super tight

35:19

election. What do I want? I want

35:21

Donald Trump to win. I want Republican majorities

35:24

in the House and the Senate. I do

35:26

not want some abject

35:28

fraud to be the difference

35:30

between victory and defeat for the Republicans. How

35:33

could I take any pride in my job if I would

35:35

be silent when I truly believe, and as you pointed out,

35:37

I believe it for a long time, that

35:39

this is somebody who is dishonest with her own

35:41

supporters and is dishonest with the American people and

35:44

also brings a kind of nastiness. And I haven't

35:46

even gotten into the personal stuff

35:48

and I won't because I don't think I need to go

35:50

there. But we've reported on it. You

35:53

have reported on it. Yeah. The audience that

35:55

we reported on this show, the Daily Mail's in-depth

35:57

reporting about her alleged affair with Corey Lewandowski. And

36:00

the denials of which were absolutely

36:02

pathetic and transparent and I believe

36:04

100 it happened. That's

36:07

my opinion. I have excellent sourcing on

36:09

this and I absolutely agree with you. So I'll just

36:11

I'll say that I mean I have a lot of

36:13

people that I know in DC and in political circles

36:15

and we talk a lot and guess what? But

36:18

I'll put that aside because honestly I don't want to

36:20

be can I don't want to be accused of being

36:23

having a double standard because you know some male politicians

36:25

obviously get away with a lot of stuff in that

36:28

room. But on the telling people

36:30

the truth about what you stand for and where

36:32

you'll actually fight and whether you're a person of

36:34

any integrity whatsoever make it. I mean I can't

36:36

help but laugh. She said she won't talk

36:38

about meetings with world leaders based

36:40

on a section of her book where she's talking about

36:43

meetings with world leaders and she

36:45

thinks this is she prepared this she

36:47

went on Jesse Waters show and Jesse

36:49

was you know Jesse's a very nice guy.

36:52

Jesse so nice there. I

36:54

mean I think you I mean

36:56

I like I don't want to

36:58

attack people on the right. We have communist. I'm not

37:01

talking Jesse. I've known Jesse

37:03

a long time. I don't my feedback

37:05

as a hundred hundred percent. I

37:07

didn't mean it like that but I'm just saying that even just you

37:09

know I don't want to call him out for being a little too

37:12

soft in the interview but I mean I think he was but it's

37:14

okay I really like Jesse. But the point is

37:16

she thought that was people are looking to her

37:18

for an answer on this. She thinks that's a

37:21

legitimate answer and she's defiant about it. Just

37:24

there's no sense of remorse whether it's a dog

37:26

shooting story which she included in the book and

37:28

people can I love dogs and I tell everybody

37:30

that so I'm very honest with where I'm coming

37:32

from. She included that in her book because

37:35

she thought it made her look like

37:37

she makes tough decisions so she should

37:39

possibly lead America not just

37:41

as vice president everybody the whole game plan

37:43

is vice president to president and

37:45

I'm sorry like that to me is

37:48

just a bridge way too far for

37:50

a person who has no record of

37:52

actual legislative achievement to be president. And

37:54

lies in a way that makes a mockery of

37:57

all it makes a mockery of all of us

37:59

what we're the lever and be like, yeah,

38:01

I'm so excited about the Gnome candidacy. Really? Let

38:04

me let, okay. So we finally have, because the

38:07

book hit today, including the audio version, Kristi

38:09

Gnome in her own words, describing

38:11

the murder of the 14 month

38:13

old puppy, Cricket. We've

38:16

condensed it into a two minute clip. Here

38:18

it is. Cricket was

38:20

a wire hair pointer about 14 months old.

38:22

And she had come to us from a

38:25

home that had struggled with her aggressive personality.

38:27

I was sure that she'd learned a lot going out

38:30

with our older dogs that day. I

38:32

was wrong. Within

38:34

an hour of walking the first field,

38:36

Cricket had blown past the

38:39

group, gotten too far ahead. She'd flushed

38:41

up birds that were out of range.

38:43

She was out of her mind with

38:46

excitement, chasing all those birds and having

38:48

the time of her life. The

38:51

only problem was, was there was no hunters

38:53

nearby to shoot the birds that she was

38:55

carrying up. I called her back

38:57

to no avail. I hit her electronic

38:59

collar to give her a quick tone to remind

39:02

her to listen. I then

39:04

hit the button to give her a warning vibration

39:06

that told her to come back to me now.

39:09

No response. The hunt

39:11

was ruined and I was

39:13

livid. Some neighbors

39:16

who recently purchased a puppy from us asked me to

39:18

stop and to check on their pup on the way

39:20

home. Suddenly out of

39:22

the corner of my eye, I

39:25

caught a glimpse of Cricket launching herself

39:27

out of the back end of the

39:29

pickup and racing across the yard. All

39:32

three of us chased Cricket around in circles,

39:35

flailing after her while she systematically

39:37

grabbed one chicken at a time,

39:40

crunching it to death with one bite

39:42

and then dropping it to attack another.

39:45

She was like a trained assassin. Eventually

39:48

I got my hand on her collar and she whipped

39:50

around to bite me. There

39:53

were bloodied bodies and feathers everywhere.

39:57

When I Got back into my truck, Cricket was sitting

39:59

in the passenger seat. Looking when she

40:01

had just won the lottery. A picture

40:03

of pure joy. I

40:05

hated that dog. As.

40:07

I drove home. I realized that I had no

40:09

choice. Cricket. Was untrainable,

40:12

And after trying to bite me. Dangerous.

40:14

To anybody that she came in contact

40:17

with a dog who base is dangerous

40:19

and unpredictable. Are you listening Joe

40:21

Biden? She was

40:23

less than worthless. To us as a hunting

40:25

dog. At that moment I realized

40:28

I had to put her down. As.

40:30

They pulled into the driveway I decided I had

40:33

to deal with as problem myself. This. Was

40:35

my dog and it was my responsibility.

40:38

And I would not, as. Somebody else to clean out

40:40

my mess. I stopped the truck in the

40:42

middle the heard. I. Got all my gun.

40:44

Grabs. Cricket, fleas and I let her out

40:47

into the pasture and down into the gravel pit.

40:50

It was not a pleasant job, but it

40:52

had to be done. There.

40:56

You have it in her own words. So.

40:59

A few things about this arm and.

41:01

Are. A lot of people need and in your audience who

41:03

are dog lovers. I have a ton of the the my

41:06

audience. And again or I'm calling from. His.

41:08

I'll try to get past. The. Horror

41:10

of thinking that this is some kind of the.

41:13

A cool story to show that you know you'll

41:15

make the tough decisions you had to shoot around

41:17

as a fourteen month old dog. Or

41:19

want to analyze This is adjustable as

41:21

I can. Why she including. And.

41:24

People say all this doesn't matter really. this person wants

41:26

to be President of United States. I think it matters

41:28

a lot Actually let's put that aside and then also

41:30

talking about how she shot the goat because she didn't

41:32

like the goat and everything else is now same day

41:34

by the with and has video or has photos of

41:36

her the same day that she's put horses doubt she

41:38

takes photos of it's to commemorate like. That. Does

41:40

that seem normal? How many people Israel's have

41:42

photos of them? Celebrating course put down

41:45

day when they shoot their horse okay or

41:47

it so those are all fat, those are

41:49

running dispute. She. Said she brings of

41:51

all of the issues of. It. Being

41:54

bad at haunting. Xoxo where

41:56

you are you killing and she said she hated

41:58

it before the instead were tried to. It's

42:01

out to me like you think the dog isn't worthwhile

42:03

enough Terrorism Hunting dogs are. She's going to kill. Me:

42:06

That that's the part orderly. she's moving in

42:08

that direction and then once you set the

42:10

doctor and around to brighter, it didn't bite

42:12

her. I have a puppy. Hobbies nip

42:15

and a playful and get overexcited. All

42:17

the time somebody should look up of the

42:19

breed of dog is is is it's not

42:21

an eighty five pound pit bull. Okay, this

42:23

is a little bird dog. It's like a

42:26

midsize sporting dogs. The. Idea that this

42:28

is a days for people. Any dog would go

42:30

after chickens. It's a fourteen month on. And

42:32

she could have given it away. I,

42:34

Meghan, visitors or either friend who is

42:37

an absolutely avid hunter sportsmen. Everything else.

42:39

He. Had I think it was the same breed

42:41

of dog look very similar. Was not a good

42:43

bird dog at all, just use like he was

42:46

untrainable. He. Loves his new bird dog so

42:48

much He had a cloned. Which. Is

42:50

a whole other taxes so he could have the

42:52

later got to the skies really into his bird

42:54

dog just as route. You. Normally did when

42:56

he had a dog that he couldn't frame. he said

42:58

a hard everybody He found a single mom who's a

43:00

family friend with a little boy who wanted a dog.

43:03

They loved that dog. More.

43:06

Does she do with? This whole thing

43:08

about how she had to. Put. The dog

43:10

down to to go kill him. I don't know.

43:12

maybe give it a day, maybe think about it

43:14

is dog and live with her for fourteen months.

43:16

Never been anybody before. One bite and

43:18

she kills if. This. Is horrifying

43:20

judgment in the ass and horrifying judgment.

43:22

You tell the story and I are

43:24

a dumpster said is there are people

43:26

who unfortunately this always happens if you

43:28

ask him to the F B I.

43:31

Y en flaws reported more. You know why

43:33

fraudulent reported more? I mean monetary for us

43:36

because people are embarrassed that they were taken

43:38

in by. So. The actual number of fraud

43:40

that occurs that monitoring them are much bigger than

43:42

what is officially reported. Because nobody wants to say

43:44

oh yeah, like I sent the fake prince ten

43:46

million dollars are you know what I like? Probably

43:49

tell them that, but I sent them a fifty

43:51

grand. You. Know nobody wants to admit

43:53

this Christine Old fool The lot of people.

43:55

And. She fooled a lot of great people.

43:57

people from rural America, people from South. people

44:00

who believed in her. And I understand

44:03

that there is this sense, look, I voted for Mitt

44:05

Romney in 2012. Nobody's perfect,

44:07

right? Let's look at

44:09

reality and let's see what she

44:11

has shown us and let's make

44:14

a conscious and real decision as

44:16

Republicans to have some standards of

44:19

truth and forthrightness and judgment in

44:21

our politicians. I mean, that's basically

44:23

where I come down on this. Yes,

44:26

I agree with all of that. I thought she was great too. I

44:29

bet. And we really wrestled

44:31

about whether we would even report the Corey

44:33

Lewandowski news because I really was

44:35

her fan. But it was a big story. And

44:38

my feeling was we would report this if it

44:40

were about a man, if it were about somebody

44:42

on the short list being

44:44

considered for VP, we would report it. And we're

44:46

not going to treat her differently just because she's

44:48

a woman. So and by the way,

44:50

there are pictures and there's a lot. There's a lot behind that

44:52

particular allegations. It's not one of those

44:55

things that was just hurled. But

44:57

there's a lot to digest in here. I

45:00

wanted to make a couple of comments as

45:02

well. So she's upset because the dog scurried

45:04

the birds around when there was no hunter

45:06

nearby to shoot. He flushed up the

45:08

birds, she, cricket, out

45:10

of range. Oh, dumbass dog

45:12

who didn't understand exactly how Kristi Noem wanted

45:14

it to hunt, even though it was just

45:16

a puppy. And

45:18

several times the dog was having the

45:21

time of her life. She

45:23

talked about how she looked like she'd

45:25

won the lottery. She was the picture

45:27

of pure joy. I hated that dog.

45:30

Why did she hate her? She hated the dog. She

45:33

didn't hunt right on her first time

45:35

out. The dog, by the way, had just

45:37

been shocked. It's fine. I understand the shock collar. And

45:40

she hated her because when the

45:42

dog was killing chickens, which I'm convinced

45:45

at least my Stradwick would deal. And they see chicken

45:47

the way we see chicken, like food. They

45:50

don't understand the modern niceties of

45:52

how you're supposed to be around chickens. They see it's

45:55

food, it's prey. And

45:57

by the way, it's in the dog's nature. That's why you hire it to help

45:59

on a hunt. go retrieve the dog. I

46:01

mean, retrieve the bird. Anyway,

46:03

I'm sure Maestro Rodwick would eat chickens if I

46:05

put him around and he's the sweetest lug

46:08

that you'd ever find in your life. And

46:11

she seemed, if you hear the audio, to take

46:13

delight in it. She wants us to believe that

46:15

it was a tough decision because it would be

46:17

a tough decision for anyone else. It would definitely

46:19

be tough to decide to kill your innocent 14-year-old

46:22

puppy. That is a tough one. But

46:25

it shouldn't, it wasn't for her because she

46:28

was motivated by anger and she clearly

46:31

hated her dog and I would submit is not an

46:33

animal lover in any way. Absolutely.

46:35

I mean, why didn't she include in this

46:37

memoir, which is all an active, let's be

46:39

honest, political memoirs are an act of propaganda,

46:42

which propaganda is not always bad, but

46:44

it's meant to be, this was meant

46:46

to be a launch pad

46:48

into national, true national politics, a vice

46:50

presidential or cabinet role and a future

46:53

one at the presidency for her. Everybody

46:55

knows it. It's obvious from her little

46:57

like spokesperson who's running around sharing polls

46:59

all summer about how she's the VP

47:01

that they fear most and all this

47:04

kind of stuff. So this is not

47:06

some, some theory. We all

47:08

know what the game plan was here. She's

47:10

writing this memoir. Why not say,

47:12

I mean, did she cry? Did she

47:15

cry after she had to shoot her own dog? Obviously

47:17

not because she hated the dog. So she shot the

47:19

dog in anger. Is that the kind of decision that

47:22

you make when you're in a bad mood? I'm going

47:24

to go kill the family dog and live with her

47:26

for 14 months. By the way,

47:28

depending on the US puppies become adult dogs

47:30

anywhere from 12 to 18 months. So this

47:32

whole game that some of the known supporters

47:34

play, it's not a puppy. I mean,

47:37

it's basically a puppy. It's a puppy. Okay.

47:39

And if you're, and if you're fighting about

47:41

whether or not it's a puppy, when you're

47:43

talking about killing a dog under these circumstances,

47:45

you're already losing. But I

47:48

mean, it's, it's interesting to see. I'll

47:50

tell you, I got a lot of pushback on my

47:52

show, you know, clay is not I have a dog,

47:55

I grew up with dogs, and I love them. And

47:57

maybe I have an irrational attachment to canines. Like I

47:59

think that there's Family members. My audience is

48:01

totally with us. There are some who said,

48:03

oh, maybe, but they could see why this is

48:05

controversial as well. I mean, the vast majority are with

48:07

us. Clay, you know,

48:09

Mike Pohost on our fabulous show, Clay

48:12

tried to be very, he's not a dog guy.

48:14

So he just took the perspective of, to

48:17

share this story is such political

48:19

malpractice, that alone. I mean, to

48:21

think that people, to think that

48:23

if you're going to win over

48:25

suburban moms in Pennsylvania and Arizona.

48:27

The only reason you're being considered, by

48:30

the way, that's the only reason you're being considered as VP.

48:32

Correct. And the only thing here is

48:34

to get women, married women

48:36

voters in the suburbs to really go

48:39

for Trump. Okay. That is your whole

48:41

life as VP. You had one job

48:44

and you're telling this story about, oh yeah, on

48:46

the ranch, we just handle the business ourselves. The

48:48

whole thing, it was political malpractice.

48:50

But Clay wasn't coming down on her as hard.

48:52

I mean, I think it bothered him, but as

48:55

hard on the shooting of the dog itself, because

48:57

people say, well, she was doing the whole, it

48:59

was a danger. And what about old Yeller? I'm

49:01

like, old Yeller had rabies, everybody. Okay. It was

49:04

a mercy. It was a

49:06

mercy killing. Okay. No one's saying that when you

49:08

put it, and then people say, well, I put

49:10

my dog down when it was 15. I'm like,

49:12

yeah, it was a mercy after a long and

49:15

wonderful life with your family. Everyone does what? I

49:17

don't know. But there's such a desperation to defend

49:19

her horrible conduct. I bring it up because with

49:21

the North Korea thing, now it's fine. Now it's

49:24

just people. She loved it. Now it's flat. Now it's

49:26

flatter at your land. Now, if you don't see who

49:28

we're dealing with here, do you know how many people

49:30

have met? I mean, again, I worked in the CIA.

49:33

I ran two presidential briefings. It was me, the president

49:35

running into the CIA, vice president in the room. I

49:38

have some idea of how this stuff goes.

49:40

The number of people who have met with

49:42

Kim Jong Un, who are American, who are

49:44

senior level officials, I think you could

49:46

count them maybe on two hands, maybe on one. I mean,

49:48

it is tiny. It would be a huge deal. And what

49:50

you're saying is the governor of South Dakota is not on

49:52

the list, Buck? I mean, I think

49:54

this is when she was a congresswoman too. I mean, I

49:56

haven't read the book yet,

49:58

but I'm assuming you're a no. name congresswoman from

50:00

South Dakota and you think you're going to

50:02

be like chilling out with Kim Jong Un

50:05

and staring him down. It's

50:07

fantasy land garbage but the reason somebody

50:09

could include that in a book like

50:11

this is they're so used to just

50:13

having the people who like her and

50:16

there are guys, and Meghan I can't

50:18

speak from this perspective, there are

50:22

guys who they see, she's attractive, you know

50:24

I live in the real world, she's a

50:26

good looking woman and they

50:29

give her more than a little leeway because of it.

50:31

I'm not saying this is the thing. See I object on

50:33

this, this is exactly what pisses me off. Some people

50:36

will accuse me sometimes of being too hard on my

50:38

own sex. It's not that I'm too hard on my

50:40

own sex, it's that I have very high standards

50:42

for them and I know they can meet them. I

50:44

refuse to lower the bar for performance for

50:47

my own sex. I know what we're capable

50:49

of, we can be all the things.

50:52

And I don't, her behavior, her stories about

50:54

herself are as fake as her hair. It's

50:56

gotten to the point where she's trying to glam

50:59

herself up. She's trying to, she has to decide

51:01

whether she wants to be a pin up girl

51:03

who's like got the guns and is super tough

51:05

or she wants to be a leader who's smart

51:07

and sober and could take this country into the

51:09

next generation. She's ruined the second possibility with all

51:11

of this nonsense. I see her entirely differently than

51:13

I used to before and the lying about it

51:16

has made it even worse. I mean in

51:18

revising the dog story in the wake

51:20

of the controversy, she's changed it to

51:23

the dog had attacked people. Who?

51:26

That's not what you said in your book. That

51:28

would have been a detail you should have and

51:30

would have included. All you said was the dog

51:32

tried, but didn't, to bite you, not people, not

51:34

a danger to your kids. And by the way, it was

51:36

when you were trying to take a high

51:39

value item out of its mouth, a dead

51:41

chicken. Any animal would be

51:43

reluctant to part with it. So

51:45

she's lying even in the wake of it. And

51:47

by the way, did you see the reports today?

51:50

She wanted to include this dog story in

51:53

her first book about not my

51:55

first rodeo. That's what we had her on for in

51:57

21 and some smart advisors.

52:00

around her said, that would be

52:02

very stupid. That's

52:04

not going to have the effect you think it is. And

52:07

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54:36

You don't have to hide how you feel. I

54:46

think it's fair to say that when we went on

54:48

stage after the premiere of the first episode, Roseanne

54:51

stole the show. Yeah. Do

54:53

you agree with me? I do. She was

54:56

so funny. She was

54:58

doing this thing where she was laughing loud in

55:00

her Roseanne laugh. The whole show. Everybody's

55:02

parts. And then when she

55:05

got up there, She talked a

55:07

bit about what it meant to her to

55:09

come back. This is her

55:11

first animated series since the cancellation.

55:13

First TV series really, since the

55:15

cancellation of her show. Were

55:17

you surprised at how it still weighs

55:19

on her? You

55:22

know, I'll tell you one thing I've really

55:24

learned from celebrities is. You

55:28

think maybe they're wired different than

55:31

other folk. And

55:33

maybe they don't. See

55:36

things or hang on to things or,

55:38

or, or they have so much money

55:40

that it really doesn't. Things sort of

55:42

roll off of them because they. Land

55:46

in this beautiful house with beautiful

55:49

Kutcher months and drive beautiful

55:51

cars. Most celebrities I

55:53

know hang on to stuff and

55:55

have sort of just as much

55:58

sort of rage, jealousy, animosity. as

56:00

anybody I've ever worked with on a

56:03

construction site and more. Like

56:05

they, you know, it's really weird. Like

56:07

if you talk to Sylvester

56:09

Stallone, you're

56:12

not going to talk about all the victories, you're

56:14

going to talk about some movie

56:16

that was supposed to, you know, he'll, you'll

56:18

break, he'll talk about Cobra or Driven or

56:20

something like one of his movies that didn't

56:22

work that well. And then he'll go into

56:25

this thing about we had a good script

56:27

and the executive screwed it up and they

56:29

gave us this crappy director. And I was

56:31

like, okay, let's just talk about Rocky. Yeah.

56:33

Right. You know what I mean? None of

56:35

us is harboring that for you. Right now

56:37

they it's, but I think

56:41

there is something in the

56:43

achievers where they, every

56:47

pro athlete I've ever, any

56:49

big time pro successful athlete

56:51

I've ever interviewed can

56:54

tell you when they screwed up

56:56

in the game in high school or when they

56:58

screwed up in the game in college, it gets

57:00

baked into their mind. It's, it's, it's

57:02

not the victories. They, they remember the

57:05

losses and they, they're really hard on

57:07

themselves and they really dwell on it.

57:10

I mean, Roseanne's not hard on herself, but they're

57:12

angry about the losses. Yeah. The

57:14

woman who made a million dollars

57:17

an episode when she was

57:19

the queen of sitcoms and you

57:21

know, 1991 dwells on

57:23

the loss. Where it's, I look at her, I'm

57:25

like, she's Roseanne. You know, she's one of those

57:28

people who, you know, by her first name, she's

57:30

so gifted, she got

57:33

completely ramroted by her fellow

57:35

cast mates by ABC, by the executives and so

57:37

on. And I think that she must be past

57:39

that, right? She's got to be past all that.

57:41

It still burns her and she's still really, and

57:43

you know, you think back to how they took

57:45

that show away from her when it was, she,

57:47

she had brought it back and they were number

57:49

one again. And anyway, so good for you. It's

57:52

the cast mates, it's a cowardly cast mates that drive

57:54

me nuts. Yeah. This is a quid. Sarah Gilbert was

57:56

the worst. She's the worst. But Hollywood, are they friends?

58:00

Like we've been out here for a

58:02

long time. Are they actually like capable of I

58:04

don't know Sarah Gilbert. This is angry bitch

58:06

I hate her Did

58:08

I did her show the blab or the talk

58:11

or the yak or whatever else they call it?

58:13

You know, and I don't know she gave me

58:15

some sort of 10-minute dissertation on what lesbians were

58:22

Speaking of sex life Let's

58:24

talk a little Stormy Daniels because oh yeah, you

58:27

might have missed whether mr. Burch and watches the

58:29

news, but I think you'd have some strong opinions

58:31

on the woman who took the stand yesterday in the Trump trial Adam

58:35

she got up there and I'm not gonna I'm

58:37

not gonna tell you about her walk into the

58:39

courtroom and her taking of the Sand I'm gonna

58:41

let Our

58:43

mutual friend Lawrence O'Donnell night. Not true.

58:46

Tell us both about his impressions of her

58:48

walking into that courtroom. Watch this Excitement

58:53

and anticipation in

58:55

the room hit a new high at

58:58

1032 a.m. She

59:01

entered wearing all black as if on her way

59:03

to a funeral Oh my god, the

59:06

loose sitting plain black clothing draping

59:08

from her shoulders to her toes

59:10

suggested the modesty of a nun

59:14

The makeup was minimal The

59:16

way she and the other moms and

59:18

her neighborhoods might look when shopping at

59:20

the local grocery store the long

59:22

blonde hair Hold up

59:24

with a clip at the back of her head the

59:27

way it might be in a utilitarian

59:29

way while she was doing dishes Or

59:31

checking one of the horseshoes on her

59:34

horse. She was alone in the

59:36

room with him that first time This

59:39

time there were over a hundred people

59:41

in the room all

59:44

watching her Except

59:46

him. Oh my god the drama

59:50

I don't you know what I want to say to

59:52

all these adults Who

59:55

are in the news industry? What

59:58

did you go to journalism school for? This

1:00:00

is a Mexican soap opera. You're

1:00:03

not a journalist, you idiot. Why

1:00:06

did you do that? What compelled you? You

1:00:09

know what I mean? Like, what, what, to just use nothing but hyperbole to

1:00:11

essentially try

1:00:16

to turn a zero burger into

1:00:18

a double King cheese. You know,

1:00:20

like, what are you doing? Like,

1:00:23

where's your dignity? I feel this

1:00:25

way about almost everybody in

1:00:27

media these days. Why are you here? What

1:00:29

are you doing? What compelled you to get

1:00:32

into this business? What motivated you to get

1:00:34

in a business? What would your dad say

1:00:37

who paid for you to go to

1:00:39

college and then journalism school to see

1:00:41

this sad sack on display? No,

1:00:43

it's so true. They, but they can't help themselves.

1:00:45

This is their Superbowl, their Oscars, you

1:00:47

know, all of it wrapped into

1:00:50

the world series wrapped into one. And

1:00:52

this plus when Michael Cohen takes a

1:00:54

stand, this is the apex of their

1:00:56

event. They wanted to hear her talk

1:00:59

about Trump and how brief

1:01:02

the sexual interlude was because

1:01:05

they want to see him

1:01:07

humiliated. Of course,

1:01:09

of course it's it. A

1:01:11

Michael Cohen is a spastic

1:01:13

nut job. Yes. Who I

1:01:16

interviewed on my

1:01:18

podcast once and

1:01:20

in the almost 4,000 podcast

1:01:23

episodes I've done, it was the only

1:01:25

time I said to a guest, I

1:01:28

am going to hang up. If you

1:01:30

do not reel it in, like if

1:01:32

you cannot maintain

1:01:34

yourself, I'm going to hang up

1:01:36

and I have a

1:01:39

long fuse for nutty people.

1:01:42

I think the record will reflect. The record will

1:01:45

reflect. I started off with

1:01:47

my family, went into my friends, went

1:01:49

into, you know, teaching boxing, working on

1:01:51

a construction site, doing Loveline. I've known

1:01:53

a lot of nut jobs and have

1:01:56

given a lot of leeway. Michael Cohen

1:01:59

was literally. the only person I've ever

1:02:01

said, if you don't reel it in because

1:02:03

he was so agitated and kind

1:02:05

of unprofessional and stupid, I said, I am going

1:02:08

to hang up on you. Wow. It

1:02:10

was a January 6th thing where I said, I

1:02:13

think it was a riot, but I

1:02:16

don't think it was an insurrection and

1:02:18

he started going insane. Mr.

1:02:21

President, I really wanted to ask you a question

1:02:23

because recently on Cinco de Mayo, you

1:02:25

had a big party and you brought

1:02:27

out the margaritas in the Rose Garden and

1:02:29

had a great time demanding that Congress allow

1:02:32

dreamers who have been model citizens according

1:02:34

to you come into the country

1:02:36

and vote. That was

1:02:38

very controversial. Did you drink

1:02:40

those margaritas because you said some

1:02:42

weird things that day. At

1:02:47

Rose Garden, what was I doing while

1:02:49

I was at the Rose Garden? Well,

1:02:51

you're the president and that's your garden. President,

1:02:55

I'd like to meet that man. I

1:02:58

salute that guy. Can

1:03:06

I ask you, sir, I know this may be a little

1:03:09

impudent, but you seem

1:03:11

to get lost a lot when I see

1:03:14

you in these videos and you seem to

1:03:16

have trouble with the stairs up Air Force

1:03:18

One. I mean, if it's not your age,

1:03:20

what is it we're seeing in those videos? Those

1:03:25

are fake films. They'll

1:03:27

take a perfectly good job. I'll

1:03:33

take my talking pills. I'll

1:03:35

be doing just fine. Sometimes

1:03:38

the stairs will come at you and

1:03:41

they'll move that things

1:03:44

on the conveyor belt. You're

1:03:46

familiar with the plain stairs.

1:03:48

You've got to look really

1:03:50

closely, I guess, to see it. I have

1:03:52

to ask you about your revisions to Title

1:03:54

IX. I have to tell you, I'm very

1:03:56

unhappy with you. You

1:03:59

redefined. The word woman, you now

1:04:01

said that biological boys and men in

1:04:03

K through 12 in college can go

1:04:06

into the girls' locker rooms, into the

1:04:08

girls' bathrooms. Why'd you do that? That's

1:04:11

right. That's right. It's

1:04:13

the right thing to do. Whether

1:04:15

it's a boy having a boy

1:04:18

having vaginas or penis having girls,

1:04:21

everyone deserves to go to the bathroom in

1:04:23

the same place. And I stand, I'll stand

1:04:25

by that. So I'll take care

1:04:27

of her. Would

1:04:30

you want your daughter using such a

1:04:32

bathroom with a biological man coming in?

1:04:36

Well, who's to say, you

1:04:39

know, my daughter could have

1:04:41

a penis or a vagina

1:04:43

or a vagina or a penis. You

1:04:46

know, the worst thing you could do is tell

1:04:48

a man that he has to have certain things.

1:04:52

And, you know, there's a stall there. You close the

1:04:54

door, man. Come on. Well,

1:04:57

the other thing you did in your Title

1:04:59

IX revisions was you took away due process

1:05:01

rights for young men on college

1:05:03

campuses who get accused of sexual

1:05:05

assault. And, you know, it does

1:05:08

occur to me, sir, respectfully, that

1:05:10

if you held yourself to those

1:05:12

same standards when Tara Reed accused

1:05:14

you of a sexual assault, you

1:05:17

might be behind bars. Oh,

1:05:20

come on. I just gave her a nice

1:05:22

little sniff. That's the difference between a sniff

1:05:24

and a sexual sniff. Big

1:05:27

difference. But you're assuming

1:05:29

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

1:05:31

I'm, I'm, I'm, if

1:05:34

you're, you're assuming I'm doing, I'm,

1:05:37

I'm sorry. Come on. You know

1:05:39

the thing? Get

1:05:42

your face out of your ears, pal. What

1:05:46

do you, you know, Mr. President, sometimes you refer

1:05:48

to the dead people as alive and the alive

1:05:50

people as dead. That's happening more and more. What,

1:05:52

what, like, do you not remember who's dead and

1:05:54

alive? Yeah,

1:05:57

well, you know, it's hard to, you know, you know,

1:06:00

It's hard to remember sometimes who's a dead

1:06:02

and who's not a live person. So

1:06:05

I think the best thing we can

1:06:07

do as a nation is come together

1:06:09

and just start all over. And

1:06:12

just if I say,

1:06:15

here's the thing, it's better than a Donald

1:06:17

Duck guy. That's the vote, man. All

1:06:19

right. You guys got orange

1:06:21

legs. You

1:06:24

know, before I let you go, I've got

1:06:26

to let you respond to the criticism that was launched the

1:06:28

way of your wife. At the top of

1:06:30

the show, Adam Carolla came on and

1:06:32

made a point. I confess I've made myself in

1:06:35

the past, sir. And that is that your wife

1:06:37

has no business calling herself doctor. That

1:06:39

she's not a real doctor. Care to respond?

1:06:43

Ah, she's a real, come on. She's

1:06:45

a real doctor, doctor. She's

1:06:47

a doctor of, uh, she's

1:06:50

a doctor of something, man. Right?

1:06:52

What are you saying? She's, you

1:06:56

could go to her, ask her. I'd go to her all the

1:06:58

time. I say, Jill, what do I do with this? You

1:07:01

know, she'll say, get a band-aid or whatnot. And

1:07:04

she's a doctor. You

1:07:06

think? What do you think

1:07:08

she is? Oh yeah. She, I

1:07:10

think she's got

1:07:13

something approaching a doctorate, but not

1:07:15

an actual PhD in education. Jill.

1:07:21

Hey, you're a doctor.

1:07:25

Huh? What? What?

1:07:30

Oh, you're right. She's not, she's not a doctor. I

1:07:33

never asked you that before. You

1:07:36

maybe should find a new doctor, sir, to look after

1:07:38

your neurological health. Health. Thank you so much for being

1:07:40

here. It was a great honor to have you on

1:07:43

the program. Appreciate it. Thanks

1:07:54

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