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4:05

And then David Feldman.

4:08

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4:10

Post-

4:22

Stunning

4:29

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4:31

of course, creating

4:34

fears that the

4:36

Fed will take it out

4:38

on labor. Meanwhile, Joe

4:41

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4:44

resume building Trump's wall and

4:47

deport thousands of Venezuelans. New

4:51

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4:53

on brink of unsustainability. Trump

4:57

endorses Jim Jordan for

5:00

speaker

5:00

in his race

5:04

against, um... I

5:07

can't even remember. Steve Scalise. If

5:09

the knives are out for Gates at all.

5:13

New report shows Target's claim that

5:16

closing stores because of theft likely

5:19

a snow job. Rudy

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Giuliani owes a half a million dollars in

5:25

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5:28

loses his legal representation

5:32

over non-payment in

5:34

that lawsuit he's fighting against Dominion.

5:37

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5:41

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5:44

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5:47

the cop who killed cop city protestor

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5:52

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5:57

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this and more on

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today's majority report

6:21

welcome ladies and gentlemen it is uh...

6:24

friday it's been a crazy week uh...

6:26

and the big one uh... we call today

6:28

what the casual friday yeah that is what we

6:30

call it and when both of us are wearing through soft

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collared uh... yes this is a very soft

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i actually i i've consciously were

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the soft collar today for that reason yep

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i found uh... you know uh... along

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yep you were in uh... you're in in

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search of that for quite a while it took a long

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it's neither nothing special but uh...

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and i'm you're probably gonna see a lot of this over

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the course of the next five or six months uh...

7:12

so

7:13

there you go uh... we

7:16

got a lot to get to here let's uh...

7:18

start with um... this

7:22

is joe biden the just

7:25

to give you some back story here

7:27

uh...

7:30

when biden got into the office he said you know i we're

7:32

not a bill one more foot of that wall

7:34

there was something like uh... one point three

7:37

billion dollars i think it was that

7:40

was appropriated in

7:43

twenty twenty towards

7:47

building that wall there is

7:49

a uh... statutory

7:51

obligation or let's put it this way

7:53

the uh... uh... biden

7:55

at that time tried to redirect

7:58

the border wall funding

9:54

environmental

10:02

protective orders essentially

10:04

and allowed for the construction. That's an active choice.

10:07

It's an active choice and we

10:10

should be clear that you know this comes

10:12

amidst a lot of pressure that he was getting

10:15

from Pritzker

10:17

in Illinois, Massachusetts

10:19

Democrats,

10:20

Hochul and Adams in New

10:22

York basically

10:25

saying you got to do something

10:27

and you know this is they responded

10:30

in about as a you know as

10:32

cowardly way that you could I mean because ultimately

10:35

and we'll talk to Perrine about this a little bit there

10:37

is there

10:40

is no impetus within the

10:42

Democratic Party it seems to me to

10:44

articulate a

10:48

proactive policy here

10:50

they're always on their heels in

10:52

terms of talking about this

10:54

and they've seated

10:56

the entire framing around the border to the

10:59

right I mean the only person who's speaking

11:01

out about this in a way that's constructive

11:03

right now who's like prominent in the Democratic

11:05

Party is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She's

11:09

just pointing out that

11:12

continued mill even even Biden says

11:14

there that it doesn't work right but

11:16

but he's he's doing it because of

11:19

that pressure but then

11:21

the point is come up with a counter narrative

11:24

talk a bit about how

11:25

we continued

11:29

basically policing

11:32

and border militants is actually counterproductive

11:35

we had times in our history

11:37

when there was a much more fluid border and

11:40

the the crime that they're discussing

11:42

here is a result of the fact

11:44

that we've forced these

11:46

people to go underground

11:49

when they're trying to migrate to this country

11:51

if we had a system of asylum

11:54

and essentially just saying hey if you register

11:56

you'll have a court date we'll figure this kind of thing out

11:59

it would just be a lot more common sense and easier,

12:01

but instead the right

12:03

wants to demonize a certain group of people and

12:06

also create leverage over

12:08

undocumented workers in

12:11

certain work environments using

12:13

the threat of deportation and things like that

12:15

against them so they can

12:16

pay low wages and cut corners. Right. And

12:19

I think the thing that I think

12:21

is helpful is that AOC is

12:24

making the point that we're resuming

12:26

deportation flights in Venezuelans. There's

12:29

total upheaval in that country just as like there

12:32

has been in Central America and

12:35

largely as a function of our policies.

12:43

It is amazing that we

12:45

can see news reports that will

12:47

say migrants coming because

12:50

of instability

12:53

in their countries, because of dangers in

12:55

their countries.

12:57

And then

12:58

not in

12:59

any way

13:00

circle that, sort of

13:02

tie that back in to what we

13:04

can do from a policy perspective. Yeah. I

13:08

mean, 2019 Economist headline, Juan Guaido

13:10

and Donald Trump are betting that sanctions will topple

13:12

the regime before they starve the Venezuelan

13:14

people. Yeah. I mean, can we draw some conclusions?

13:17

So

13:17

why are Venezuelans coming? Why

13:19

are Haitians coming? We had Brian Kunkannon

13:21

on yesterday to talk about Haiti and how

13:23

Biden and the Biden administration

13:28

and Blinken, they don't want

13:31

Arielle Henri to leave

13:33

office in Haiti, even though

13:35

he hasn't been elected after the assassination

13:37

of Moise because

13:39

they have a relationship

13:41

with Henri and Biden's worried

13:44

domestically

13:44

about more

13:45

Haitian migrants coming over here. But

13:49

maybe don't prop up an unelected

13:52

leader in Haiti and people will,

13:55

people want to remain home. They're

13:57

fleeing from political, horrible

13:59

political situations.

13:59

It's so silly. And

14:04

I think the vacuum that is created

14:07

when the Democrats just simply

14:10

respond when the right-wing pressure

14:12

becomes too much and essentially

14:14

do a right-wing light, that

14:17

vacuum is, and Matt

14:19

made this point before the program, is very

14:22

similar in where we were

14:24

in the early aughts in terms of abortion.

14:29

Obviously there's a slightly different dynamic

14:31

in terms of the Supreme Court

14:34

making abortion legal. But

14:36

the point is that a

14:39

proactive immigration reform

14:42

set of policies that were articulated,

14:46

that go beyond you shouldn't just cage

14:48

people, would provide

14:52

the

14:54

foundation for an administration

14:57

to fight back

14:59

in moments like these. But

15:02

it doesn't exist. But

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we'll talk more about that with

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Sam Seder, Emma Vigeland on the majority

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report want to welcome back to the program

20:16

the co-host of the politics of everything

20:18

contributing editor at the New

20:20

Republic, Alex Pareen.

20:22

Hello, Alex. It's been a long time since you and I've seen

20:25

each other. At one point I had

20:27

COVID and then I was sick or whatever it was.

20:29

I don't know what. I just assumed you were

20:31

mad at me. I mean, I

20:34

brained you to my COVID. Yeah,

20:36

I get that. I thought it was quite a coincidence.

20:41

So let's, but

20:43

it's great to catch up. It's

20:46

been a sort of a crazy week. I

20:48

had forgotten that we had a

20:50

new senator appointed at the beginning of the week.

20:52

I don't know if we're going to get that. Yeah.

20:55

Yeah. Like what that was this week, right? This

20:59

is like as Donald Trump

21:01

gets closer to the center

21:03

of like

21:04

the actual politics that are

21:07

going on, the more this is happening. I

21:09

think I get the sense that we're getting back into that

21:11

phase, which is terrifying to me. But

21:15

let's, so let's start with that. I'm

21:18

not sure if you're aware, but

21:21

Kevin McCarthy is no longer speaker of the

21:23

house and it is,

21:28

I mean, I think there was, there

21:31

was a sense that that was sort of inevitable

21:34

nine months ago. I think there were people who were surprised

21:36

that he lasted that long. Yeah. Yeah.

21:40

They have done nothing.

21:45

I mean, even on the, even on the sort

21:47

of like speaker, they did that. Well, they've done

21:49

that, but they did nothing like even in like the

21:51

committee hearings and stuff on like, like that,

21:54

nothing, nothing sort of like stuck

21:57

on some level.

23:56

There

24:01

was, I mean,

24:03

I guess an impeachment early

24:06

on in the, I forgot

24:08

about that, but there was an impeachment that took place in

24:11

the wake of January 6th. There

24:14

was, I mean,

24:16

a lot of stuff got done

24:19

within that margin. Now, maybe because

24:22

you could, you did have the Senate

24:26

and it made the importance

24:28

of passing things

24:30

that much more urgent, right? Like

24:32

there was a consequence to passing

24:34

legislation in the House.

24:36

And obviously

24:39

the past nine months there hasn't been, but

24:42

it seems to me that could cut both ways. Like

24:45

it's really just like, you know, you pass

24:47

stuff in the House, even

24:50

if you know it's not going to pass in the Senate, so

24:52

you can create these statements. They've

24:54

done very little of that,

24:56

but really it's this sort of like

24:58

inability to use what

25:00

control they had of like these oversight

25:02

committees

25:03

to create any type of narrative. It

25:06

is,

25:07

there is so many different incentive

25:10

structures

25:11

for the Republicans

25:14

and in part because they

25:16

really don't

25:19

want to do anything. And they're

25:21

freed from that. I mean, as conservatives,

25:24

fundamentally they see government as a problem.

25:27

So they always seem to have this problem when they're

25:29

in power. I mean, this is doing government.

25:32

Well, honestly, this is like the sixth

25:35

speaker of the House in the past 20 years,

25:38

maybe more, maybe, or I should say sixth

25:41

Republican leader, I should say, in the House. Maybe

25:44

more for that matter. I mean,

25:46

literally we're on the

25:48

brink of the second wrestling

25:50

coach responsible for the molestation

25:53

of kids or of wrestlers. I

25:57

mean, that's pretty impressive in two decades.

27:59

coalescing behind, but they're

28:02

not coalescing. The vast

28:03

majority of the Republicans wanted.

28:06

Those are the ones

28:06

being silent right now. There

28:10

is, I think, some effort by

28:12

the Gates faction

28:14

or whatever to make this more

28:16

of a thing, but the

28:19

Republican Party is always going to line up

28:21

behind more funding for their

28:24

donors or whatever, or

28:26

more contracts, I should say, for their donors. The

28:29

military, like the Boeing or whatever,

28:32

they want more military funding as

28:34

well. Eventually, I

28:36

think that Ukraine funding will get passed, but

28:39

the Hunter Biden, Joe Biden impeachment

28:42

thing, that's what they're trying to

28:44

make politically salient. It's

28:46

actually actively terrible and might

28:48

be hurting them, I would

28:50

say, hurting them more than helping them for sure.

28:53

Yeah, and I think that's been... I

28:57

would agree with your assessment, Emma, where I

28:59

think that the politics

29:01

of it are not actually

29:03

good for them, but they're just stuck

29:05

on this road. And

29:08

we're

29:11

seeing, I think,

29:15

this paralysis is partly just because

29:17

they... You

29:20

say there's always been this

29:24

tension between what the donor class wants

29:26

and what the populist grassroots

29:30

wants, but

29:34

no one's steering the boat right now, it feels like

29:36

to me. Even on this Ukraine stuff, it

29:38

just seems like no one's at the tiller. I

29:42

think we're just seeing... We're

29:45

really just seeing flailing as a result. It's

29:48

not even a coherent war for the soul

29:50

of the Republican Party. It's

29:53

just a bunch of people with

29:57

agendas that are mainly personal

29:59

out for themselves.

29:59

Yeah, it is amazing how like

30:02

sort of the Boebert, Marjorie

30:04

Taylor Greene thing has sort of, you know, like,

30:06

got pushed off the front page, if you will.

30:09

Because now everybody hates Gates and they're

30:11

also like coming after Nancy Mace now.

30:15

Because and which, you know, I'm

30:18

all for but let's talk about now,

30:20

on Tuesday, there's

30:22

going to be, which

30:25

is amazing to me. There

30:27

is going to be a, I guess,

30:29

a quasi debate on Fox

30:33

between Steve Scalise

30:35

and Jim Jordan

30:37

as to who is going to be Speaker

30:39

of the House. And

30:42

what is, what's

30:43

going to be fascinating is they're

30:47

competing visions for what

30:50

the Republican Party is. They're going to say

30:52

the exact same things.

30:56

The only thing that Jim Jordan is going to say is that I'm

30:58

endorsed by Donald Trump.

31:01

And Steve Scalise, I

31:03

doubt he's going to come in and do a reduct

31:06

of I'm, but I am,

31:09

you know,

31:10

KKK without the baggage. And

31:14

so and I mean,

31:14

Jordan will try to differentiate himself by being

31:16

one of the founding members of the Freedom Caucus, right?

31:19

I mean, also, can he tell that

31:21

Trump endorsement because Trump is publicly like winking

31:24

and saying I might want to come in and be

31:26

Speaker. I think he I think the

31:28

sequencing is that he was thinking about it for

31:30

a couple of days.

31:32

And now it's saying that it doesn't work. It

31:34

does sound like a lot of work. Yeah. But

31:36

let's talk about I mean, like, there's there's two big issues,

31:39

right? It seems to me one is what

31:41

are the implications for the

31:43

budget stuff? Like everything else

31:45

after that is largely irrelevant

31:48

because they're not there's no reason to

31:50

believe they're going to do they're going to be any more effective

31:52

without Kevin McCarthy

31:55

than they were with.

31:56

The only question is, is like, and

31:59

I don't

31:59

think Kevin McCarthy

32:02

would have made a, you know, I

32:04

think there would have been a government shutdown regardless

32:06

with Kevin McCarthy. There was, you know, it was just a matter

32:09

of time. Like it was coming

32:11

to a head.

32:13

But

32:14

it's not inconceivable to

32:16

me that we could get like an extended

32:19

government shutdown, a really long

32:22

extended one short of, you

32:24

know, Sarah Nelson and the flight

32:27

attendant union or somebody, you know,

32:29

similarly situated who come in and basically

32:31

say, we're not going to do this anymore. And

32:34

put some pressure on those people. But

32:37

that's one part about it. One

32:39

big question is the government shutdown.

32:41

And the second one is,

32:43

how many seats is

32:46

this going to cost the Republicans

32:49

in 2024? And how many more

32:51

would have been cost?

32:53

Like, I think if Donald Trump actually became Speaker

32:55

of the House for anything more than like

32:57

a day, it

33:00

would add

33:01

three points to Joe Biden's, you

33:03

know, like, maybe a slight exaggeration,

33:06

but not too much. Yeah, good reminder

33:09

of what it's like to have that guy in government. Yeah.

33:11

And we're starting, we're seeing that again. Like this is,

33:15

you got to be terrified. Let's play this

33:17

clip of a New York Rep in

33:20

the 19th district.

33:21

I

33:24

think it is. Mark

33:27

Molinaro. Mark Molinaro, yeah. He

33:30

is in the 19th district, actually,

33:32

like, that's where I vote up there.

33:34

And he

33:36

beat,

33:39

I think it was Josh Riley. It

33:41

was a very weird, you

33:43

know, thing that that was one of those districts that caught

33:46

up in this. It was an off

33:48

year and he won as part of the sort

33:50

of like small, you know, the

33:52

only place where there was like a red tide,

33:54

if you will, in New York.

33:57

Here he is, like, this guy is. in

34:00

a tightrope right now.

34:03

Tonight, as this chaos continues,

34:05

the Republican Congress Mark Molinaro and Democratic

34:07

Congressman Seth Moulton. I want to start

34:09

though with Congressman Molinaro. And I should

34:11

be clear, sir, I know you voted against

34:14

the effort to oust Speaker Kevin McCarthy. So you

34:16

wanted him to remain as Speaker.

34:18

So you just heard Congressman Nels.

34:21

I'm nominating Donald J. Trump for Speaker, Congressman,

34:24

Congressman Marjorie Scheller-Green. President

34:26

Trump's the right guy for the job. I'd love to see him be Speaker of

34:28

the House.

34:29

Do you think former President Trump should become Speaker

34:31

even on a short-term basis?

34:33

Well, actually, the way Frank

34:36

is a great way of answering it, I understand

34:38

he's interested in being a short-term Speaker. We

34:40

have a short-term Speaker. We have an interim Speaker.

34:44

And I'm committed to finding somebody

34:46

within the House, the membership of the House,

34:48

to serve as Speaker of the House. We've got

34:50

to be focused on governing again.

34:53

And I think what happened two days ago was

34:56

a mistake. I've said so. I think it's an embarrassment.

34:59

And frankly, we need, as a conference, Republican

35:01

majority to come together behind a candidate

35:04

who serves in the House, who is committed to

35:06

governing within the reality. And the reality

35:08

is we have a divided country and we have a

35:10

bipartisan government, and we have to function

35:13

within that reality.

35:14

So President

35:16

Trump, in this context, is coming to

35:18

Capitol Hill next week ahead of what might

35:20

be the first of many rounds of votes for Speaker,

35:22

right, depending what happens in your party. The day before,

35:25

he hasn't been on Capitol Hill since

35:27

the insurrection when he was obviously

35:29

nearby. So do

35:32

you think that's a good idea that he would come to the

35:34

Hill? Is it helpful in any way?

35:36

I think that the conference has a lot to get

35:38

through these next few days. And quite frankly, the

35:40

amount of discussion that we've been having as

35:44

members is complicated enough.

35:46

I will say out loud that I've been engaged

35:49

in these conversations. I think

35:51

people from different backgrounds, ideological backgrounds

35:53

within the conference, we all recognize this

35:56

is a serious moment. This individual,

35:58

the Speaker of the House, absolutely. responsibility.

36:00

Second in line to the President of the United States.

36:03

This is not a moment where we

36:05

need any distraction or any

36:08

undermining of a very serious effort

36:10

to find the individual who

36:13

will best enable us to gather the American

36:15

people. They want us fighting

36:17

inflation. They want us to focus on border security.

36:19

They want us to deliver. We don't need to hear anymore.

36:22

The point of this clip is

36:24

this guy could be

36:26

talking about anything, anywhere,

36:29

at any time. He is so nervous

36:31

of both losing his Trump base because, let's

36:35

be honest,

36:36

if you're voting for a Republican, you

36:39

are pro-Trump. In any district

36:41

in the country, almost,

36:43

the majority of your voters

36:45

are pro-Trump. He doesn't want to screw that

36:48

up, but he also

36:51

realizes this guy is in a purple district and he

36:53

is terrified about what

36:57

is coming for him. If I'm the Democrats

36:59

right now, I'm making

37:00

ads in

37:03

his district

37:06

right now saying, are

37:08

you going to vote for Jim Jordan?

37:11

I'll talk

37:11

about the stuff about the wrestling coach,

37:13

but also, this guy is an insurrectionist.

37:15

This guy is a lunatic. Or

37:19

are you going to vote for Steve Scalise,

37:22

who literally said, I'm David Duke

37:24

without the baggage? Or are you going

37:25

to vote for Donald Trump? I would just remind

37:27

people, you're

37:31

a Republican, and regardless of what you do or say, you are part

37:32

of the problem because

37:38

you enable these people.

37:42

I

37:44

think that's exactly

37:47

the sort of predicament, you described it well,

37:49

of a guy like Molinaro, where you cannot win that seat without

37:51

hardcore Trump support, but you're Now

38:01

your base of support are the hardcore

38:03

Trump people in a purple district.

38:06

And you're really damned if you do, damned if you don't

38:09

in that sort of situation, as we can see as he

38:11

becomes increasingly sort of mealy-mouthed and

38:13

scared. The

38:20

options are so abhorrent that

38:23

it is kind of like you really just

38:26

need to go into a place like his district

38:29

and no matter what happens, just be

38:32

like these are the people you're enabling.

38:34

These are the people that this guy's enabling. He

38:38

wants to say this is about

38:40

governing, but they

38:42

have no interest in that. Yeah,

38:44

chaos, chaos, chaos. That's

38:46

what I was saying earlier with the speaker fighting

38:48

why I'm just like bathing in it

38:50

essentially is because it is

38:52

just wonderful to have this real-time

38:55

reminder for the American public ahead of a 2024 election

38:59

that the Republican Party is the party of chaos.

39:02

And Donald Trump was the number one chaos

39:06

agent in that way. And I think that

39:08

even though I

39:09

would like the Democrats to have a more coherent

39:12

vision themselves, that negative

39:14

partisanship and that reminder is a really,

39:17

really good thing. Like Marjorie

39:19

Taylor Greene saying that Trump

39:21

should be speaker. What a joke. She

39:23

didn't vote on the motion to vacate.

39:26

She was not one of the eight and

39:28

she's overcompensating. That's what she's

39:30

doing there by saying Trump should be speaker.

39:33

But

39:33

she doesn't have to worry. She's in one of the reddest districts

39:35

in the country.

39:36

So in that case, this guy

39:38

is shitting his pants because

39:40

all of those frontline Republicans, and there are

39:42

more, right? More frontline Republicans in purple

39:45

districts than Democrats. I think

39:46

there's about 18 that

39:48

the Democrats are targeting as of like

39:50

the beginning of this year, I think it was. They're

39:52

the ones that were are probably

39:55

want to dig

39:58

up as much dirt as humanly possible on.

39:59

And even someone like Marjorie Taylor

40:02

Greene isn't helping their case by bringing Trump back

40:04

into this conversation. No,

40:06

yeah, that's exactly right. And, you

40:09

know, I mean, say what you will about negative partisanship,

40:11

but it's kind of like the last reliable

40:14

way of getting anyone to support anything in this country. So

40:17

he might as well just lean on it. Yeah,

40:20

I don't know. Maybe it was a month ago. I

40:22

got in the run up to the

40:25

to the government shutdown.

40:27

I don't know if it was for the debt deal or for I think it was for the debt deal. I

40:29

think it was maybe for this budget deal a couple

40:31

of weeks ago. I got a call.

40:34

I don't know from where I can't remember

40:36

the organization

40:37

live person.

40:39

Will you call, you know,

40:42

like I say, I'm a voter in District 19. Will

40:44

you call

40:46

Molinaro's office? Can

40:48

we connect you to Molinaro's office and

40:50

tell them that you want a budget deal? You don't want the

40:53

government to shut down. Yeah,

40:54

I was like, yeah. And

40:57

that type of pressure

40:59

is why you saw

41:02

McCarthy do what

41:04

he did in that continuing resolution

41:07

because he's there

41:08

and he's got like

41:11

two essentially incentives

41:13

that are across purposes. Keeping

41:16

his job, keeping

41:18

the Republican majority. I mean,

41:20

on some level, he's pretty psyched because

41:23

he just took Nancy Pelosi's old

41:25

like little tiny office. Apparently,

41:28

he was the one who said that clear out her stuff.

41:31

And

41:33

he's going to do fundraising and he doesn't have to really

41:35

worry about holding things together. He

41:38

can go just to install Republicans in there and then

41:40

he can go to K Street and monetize

41:42

all that.

41:43

But this

41:45

is going to be a big problem. If there's more, the more

41:48

pressure put on these 18, you

41:50

know, who are in like purplish districts or

41:53

Biden one districts,

41:55

they're going to go. They're

41:57

going to try and

41:59

push for some.

43:56

that

44:01

is made in some very, I wouldn't

44:03

even say quarters, but maybe

44:06

some apes, that

44:10

the Democrats

44:11

should have

44:13

helped out McCarthy

44:15

with their votes.

44:19

Andrew Yang said that yesterday, by the way. I

44:22

think,

44:22

of course.

44:25

And so did Bill Share and

44:28

Matt Lewis and the professional centrist

44:30

coalition. The Republicans are mad at the problem

44:32

solvers.

44:36

But

44:44

what's your take on that? If the government

44:47

shutdown is inevitable, what's

44:50

your take on that? Well, I think, you

44:52

already sort of said this, but I think if we

44:54

keep McCarthy, that's no guarantee we're

44:56

going to avoid the shutdown. That's really

44:58

no guarantee we're going to avoid the shutdown if we keep McCarthy. We're

45:00

still heading for the same

45:03

sort of climax.

45:04

Anything, it makes it maybe even more

45:06

likely because he now has to show his conservative

45:09

bona fides having been saved by the Democrats. Having

45:12

been saved by the Democrats, exactly. Exactly.

45:15

So he's got even more to prove in that scenario. And

45:18

there's more leverage

45:18

against him too because of that damn motion

45:20

to vacate. So that

45:21

anyway. Gates kept bringing that bone over.

45:25

Yeah, he just kept doing it. And

45:28

so that's just one sort of argument

45:30

I think you can just put aside. But

45:32

in terms of the

45:35

responsibility of Democrats to

45:38

be the bigger party, to be the grownups,

45:41

I mean, we spend a lot of time – we don't

45:43

spend a lot of time, but people in the media

45:45

spend a lot of time. Worrying

45:48

about all of these poor, poor, like

45:50

moderate Republicans who can't

45:54

get back control of their party. But it's kind of

45:56

like the –

46:00

The argument should be put on them like why they are not

46:02

just joining with Democrats to support again

46:05

a moderate Democratic speaker Like that would just

46:07

be the logical thing to do Yeah It would really just

46:09

be the completely coherent and logical thing to do if

46:11

they have a problem with how the Republican

46:13

majority is governing right now is is

46:16

like Cross the aisle and like there

46:18

are plenty plenty of conservative and

46:20

moderate Democrats to choose from if

46:22

if what if you want to Put your country first above

46:24

party.

46:25

I mean

46:26

There are you know, I don't know is it 15 18 of these? You

46:30

know Republicans who come from like, you know

46:32

sort of Biden districts. Yes, you will

46:35

Yeah, all it takes is five of them exactly.

46:37

So yes, you vote for Hakeem Jeffries

46:40

I vote for Hakeem Jeffries that just a couple of

46:42

them and that's all it takes and And

46:45

and they could do that

46:46

and also the amazing thing is that Kevin McCarthy

46:48

is not held

46:50

to account for

46:52

Negotiating not negotiating with the Democrats.

46:54

I mean, yeah, I think like but but

46:56

put aside like that

46:58

reflective and it's sort of fascinating right

47:00

because

47:01

People like you and I have been doing this for a

47:04

long time We're sort of waiting

47:06

to wonder if the press the

47:08

Washington press would return to

47:10

the sort of the the

47:12

the the mean if you will

47:14

and

47:16

sort of like create this posture

47:18

of Democrats job

47:21

is to save Republicans

47:23

from themselves Yeah,

47:26

and

47:27

It really does

47:29

seem to snap back in a big

47:31

way In that regard because

47:33

Kevin McCarthy

47:35

could have negotiated with the Democrats He said

47:37

McCarthy

47:38

could have been a bipartisan

47:40

hero He easily could have and

47:42

he could have and that's the thing is to if he

47:44

had wanted to find a way out of this That

47:46

would have again. It would have made him Incredibly

47:49

popular in that segment of the press like he

47:51

could have negotiated a sort of bipartisan

47:54

solution for his own problem But

47:56

we've seen this with Republican political

47:59

inciting

49:36

Which

50:00

is it's a it's a raw deal right,

50:02

but like you're the party of things

50:05

broadly working So if anything goes

50:07

wrong, it's because you didn't Try

50:10

hard enough to make it work but the

50:12

other party if you are the party of breaking shit

50:14

then like Obviously

50:17

you can't be held responsible for your own actions

50:19

when you break everything,

50:20

but they never articulate that second

50:22

part exactly. Yes Let's

50:25

just move we don't have too much time left, but it

50:29

We're in a weird

50:31

situation in terms of like, you know, what's shaping up

50:34

for 2024 there does not seem to be Bobby

50:38

Kennedy is about to leave the Democratic primary

50:41

the only other person that

50:43

I'm aware of that's in the Democratic primary

50:45

is Marianne Williamson and

50:48

She has

50:49

I mean just to be frank had had

50:51

trouble maintaining a campaign. It's

50:53

unclear to me that she's gonna be on any ballots you

50:56

know any states It's

50:59

interesting I would my whole plan was to interview,

51:03

you know

51:04

to basically interview all the people sort

51:06

of you know

51:07

Arguably on the left like I mean Kennedy

51:09

to me is he's been running as

51:11

a libertarian candidate more than anything

51:14

else but but certainly I'm

51:16

Marianne Williamson and and Cornell

51:18

West, I mean, you know in

51:20

particular I have a lot of respect for But

51:24

over the past like I don't know

51:26

Between you know, because I was like we'll do this in September

51:28

and then by the time we get to September

51:31

RFK is basically, you know running

51:33

a Koch brothers campaign. Yeah,

51:36

Mary Williamson has lost four campaign

51:38

managers And like there's literally an open

51:40

letter by I think 40 was if

51:42

I'm a purse staffers just like don't donate

51:44

to her Yeah, nothing. Absolutely

51:48

wrong and

51:49

Cornell West has switched

51:51

parties now Two

51:53

times and now running as

51:55

of like yesterday

51:56

as an independent

51:58

yet

52:01

and yet.

52:02

I mean, I don't think, you know, like, I think like when

52:04

we talk about RFK and Cornel

52:07

West and really more so

52:09

no labels.

52:12

We're looking at a tight race.

52:14

I think any way you slice it between Trump

52:17

and Biden

52:18

and if there are like three

52:21

and no labels may have the biggest

52:23

impact. Right, right, right. Yeah. But

52:26

you don't need much of an impact to

52:29

sway this election.

52:31

It seems, you

52:33

know,

52:33

highly problematic. I mean,

52:35

there's

52:37

large discontent with Biden

52:39

as the nominee from what I can tell mostly

52:41

about his age.

52:43

You know, like, I mean, I think like obviously there

52:45

are a lot of things in these in this border

52:47

wall thing

52:48

is is reprehensible and the

52:51

Venezuelan thing is reprehensible. But

52:54

I think for the most part, it's a

52:56

function of his age.

52:58

And this is, it's

53:02

scary.

53:03

Yeah, well, the

53:06

the whole situation sucks, because

53:09

I think like, again,

53:11

we're in a position

53:14

where the election really

53:16

is going to be a lot closer than it ought to be

53:18

in a large part because of

53:20

the way

53:24

Biden ran, you know,

53:27

his first race and sort of the implicit,

53:31

the implicit and often explicit,

53:34

often explicit argument that he made at the

53:36

time was like, I

53:39

think he would, yeah, I'm a bridge, right.

53:41

I'm a caretaker. I'm a bridge. I know

53:43

I'm old, you know, but like, you got to you

53:45

got to have me to get rid of Trump.

53:48

And you end

53:50

up with an

53:53

electorate that's not in love with the guy. And, you know,

53:57

regardless of his accomplishments,

55:58

They

56:00

focused on him quite a bit.

56:02

He was on Larry King very famously.

56:05

I think they would be in a Air

56:07

time he could also literally buy air time for yes,

56:09

and when you bought air time in those days You

56:12

commanded a lot of attention It wasn't like

56:14

today where it's like you know somebody could buy an hour

56:17

and have no notice. No one would even notice and

56:21

But it's not a conceivable to me. We could get something like

56:23

that like I could you know our RFK

56:26

jr. Could get

56:28

You know a decent size

56:30

of the vote and it could come from both

56:32

Republicans and and Democrats,

56:35

but nevertheless

56:37

It is It

56:40

seems like a very hairy

56:42

situation to me

56:44

And and scary

56:47

in that respect and it's interesting

56:49

Ralph Nader of all people

56:51

has come out now publicly and

56:53

essentially

56:55

Endorsed Joe Biden.

56:57

Yeah,

56:58

that's funny Which is amazing

57:01

to me?

57:03

And I don't know it The

57:05

the other amazing thing about it is is

57:07

like it's unclear to me

57:10

The ideological difference of all the

57:12

people running here like nonetheless

57:14

seems to be running His

57:17

campaign if there's one message that I have gleaned

57:19

from his campaign I mean he has all sorts

57:21

of other I think ideas that I appreciate But

57:24

the thing that they're top-lining is defeat

57:27

the duopoly Right, which

57:30

is like first off. There's no way

57:32

that's going to happen Yeah,

57:34

right, you know if you don't even have a party apparatus

57:37

But like if you wanted to defeat the duopoly

57:39

the best way to do that is like to create

57:41

a model like the working Families party

57:44

which is actually in some

57:45

states Running third-party

57:48

candidates on a local level and been building,

57:50

but it takes a long time You're

57:52

not gonna beat the duopoly by getting a 5% ballot

57:56

access

57:57

Be that actually yeah, and

57:59

that's something

59:59

still a stand-up comedian. I mean,

1:00:05

people aren't usually aware of that, even people who

1:00:07

are actually watching him perform

1:00:09

stand-up. But he hosts

1:00:11

a podcast where he basically sits

1:00:15

in his underwear and does

1:00:17

it from his apartment. I don't

1:00:19

know, I think it's like 23 hours long per

1:00:22

day. I don't know if he does that out. He

1:00:25

lives with a sister and his

1:00:28

daughter has been estranged with him for 20 years.

1:00:31

I remember seeing him do stand-up when

1:00:34

I had to sneak into comedy

1:00:37

clubs because I wasn't old enough, even

1:00:40

in the under 18 thing.

1:00:42

Yeah, and I'm old. I mean,

1:00:44

so he was old at that time. But

1:00:47

let's bring him on here.

1:00:49

David Feldman. Can you hear me? Yes, I

1:00:51

can hear you. Okay. Wow. I bought a

1:00:54

burner phone

1:00:59

for

1:01:04

this

1:01:04

and

1:01:06

I was really looking forward

1:01:08

to doing this

1:01:09

and you just go right into it. What

1:01:12

do you mean? It's my stepdaughter who I

1:01:14

live with, not my daughter. Oh, all right.

1:01:18

I'm sorry, your stepdaughter. Yeah,

1:01:20

and my mother's living here too. She's not well

1:01:22

and we

1:01:28

were all looking forward

1:01:31

to my doing your show. Well, it's nice

1:01:33

that you

1:01:34

guys

1:01:35

are talking.

1:01:38

Yeah, well, not really, but let's

1:01:41

just talk about what's going on. David, didn't your mother

1:01:45

pass away last year? I

1:01:48

don't judge. Okay.

1:01:51

Can we just get going and talk about? All right, I

1:01:54

was just wondering, but I specifically remember

1:01:56

you

1:01:57

saying that your mom had to

1:01:59

do it.

1:01:59

past and you were upset and now you're

1:02:02

saying that she's in the apartment with you?

1:02:04

I don't judge, okay? So

1:02:06

let's just let's just talk

1:02:08

about.

1:02:09

So you live with your sister? Oh my

1:02:12

god. You're strange. Yeah.

1:02:15

You do this, you don't do this to Andy

1:02:17

Kindler or Judy Gold. What do you

1:02:19

have to bring up my...

1:02:20

Just everybody here

1:02:23

was looking forward to this, okay?

1:02:25

So can you just...

1:02:27

All right, go

1:02:30

plug again. Yeah, what are you doing to

1:02:32

speak on David? Where are you playing?

1:02:35

Well, I don't know if anybody wants to see

1:02:37

me now. I mean, I was hoping we

1:02:39

would get going and then I could...

1:02:41

I'm at Staten

1:02:44

Island starting late this afternoon at

1:02:47

Michael Connors Beer Hall Putsch in

1:02:49

Staten Island, six shows Friday.

1:02:52

I'm sorry, what?

1:02:54

Six shows Friday starting at 4

1:02:56

p.m. We have eight on Saturday and

1:03:00

the first show Saturday begins

1:03:02

at 2 p.m.

1:03:03

Come on out, audience members are reminded

1:03:06

to use the handrails while walking

1:03:08

downstairs into the club. It's two

1:03:11

floors down and there's no elevators

1:03:13

who just remember, hold on to the handrails.

1:03:16

We don't want to repeat of last time.

1:03:19

Wait, wait, wait. What happened last time? You

1:03:22

know what happened. Move on.

1:03:24

No, I actually have

1:03:26

no idea what happened. People

1:03:29

died, Sam. People died, okay? People

1:03:31

died? I had no idea.

1:03:33

Just move on. Just move on. Sorry

1:03:37

to hear it.

1:03:38

Yeah, are you really, Sam? Are you

1:03:40

really sorry to hear that? Really? I

1:03:43

mean,

1:03:44

first off, there's a comedy club in Staten

1:03:46

Island called the Beer Hall Putsch. Jesus,

1:03:49

can I do... What?

1:03:54

What are you asking me?

1:03:55

I said you... I get...

1:03:58

You said that you're playing... a

1:04:00

comedy club or

1:04:02

somewhere called the Beer Hall Putsch

1:04:04

in Staten Island? No, I

1:04:07

didn't. You're putting words in my mouth. And

1:04:09

the show starts at 4 p.m.? I

1:04:12

didn't say that.

1:04:15

I didn't say that. You said that. Yeah,

1:04:18

David, we just heard you. You said you're

1:04:20

playing a comedy club in Staten

1:04:22

Island called the Beer Hall Putsch. You

1:04:24

said that.

1:04:24

Okay, here we are. Oh, man.

1:04:27

Oh, wow. There we go. The two of you

1:04:30

teaming up, trying to make me think I'm crazy.

1:04:32

You know, there's a movie based

1:04:34

on it. There's a term for this. It's from

1:04:37

a famous movie.

1:04:38

Gaslighting?

1:04:40

No,

1:04:41

that's not it. It's a term for when.

1:04:44

What is it? When people conspire

1:04:46

like you're doing to make a very innocent,

1:04:49

yeah, pathetic character like me think

1:04:51

they're going crazy. Well, I

1:04:52

mean, that's that's gaslighting. It's what it's

1:04:54

called. It's from

1:04:55

the movie Gaslight with Ingrid Bergman. Yeah,

1:04:57

she got tricked into thinking she's going

1:05:00

crazy.

1:05:01

No, no, no, that's it. It's a

1:05:03

term for people. What you're doing

1:05:05

right now, making someone think they're going crazy.

1:05:07

It's from a movie. It's a famous movie. It's

1:05:09

gaslighting. That's the term gaslighting.

1:05:12

No, it's the 400 blows. The 400

1:05:14

blows. That's the 400 blows. That's

1:05:18

what you're doing to me. The

1:05:21

what? Your 400 blowing me. You're

1:05:25

teaming up

1:05:26

to make me think I'm crazy.

1:05:28

And it's called 400 blowing

1:05:31

someone from the movie. The 400 blows your 400 blowing me. The 400.

1:05:35

The 400

1:05:36

blows I'm seeing here. It's French New Wave.

1:05:38

It's a classic.

1:05:40

Yeah, a classic piece of

1:05:43

human excrement. But,

1:05:45

you know, everyone, including

1:05:47

apparently Emma, is teaming

1:05:49

up against David Feldman trying

1:05:51

to convince him he's crazy

1:05:53

for not loving the 400 blows. The 400

1:05:58

blows sucks.

1:05:59

Okay, it's I don't want

1:06:02

to talk about this. It's worse

1:06:04

than Casablanca. We all know

1:06:06

it sucks and people are just saying the 400 blows

1:06:09

is great. So I think I'm

1:06:11

crazy. You're 400 blowing

1:06:13

me can David

1:06:15

I am quite familiar with

1:06:18

proof. Oh and the 400 blows

1:06:20

and I have never heard anyone use that

1:06:22

term

1:06:23

ever because you're 400 blowing

1:06:25

me. How am I 400 blowing you?

1:06:30

You just said I was playing the beer

1:06:32

hall poach in Staten Island and

1:06:34

that's not what I said in your point. No David

1:06:37

that is exactly what

1:06:39

you said. You said I'm playing the beer hall

1:06:41

poach in Staten Island at 4pm.

1:06:43

Nobody is 400 blowing you.

1:06:45

You said it David. No I

1:06:48

did say that you're putting words in my mouth

1:06:50

and that's going to get me into a lot of trouble with

1:06:53

the club. Okay, okay,

1:06:55

okay.

1:06:56

What did you say? If

1:06:58

you said you're like if you didn't say

1:07:00

you're playing the beer hall poach in Staten

1:07:03

Island, what did you say?

1:07:04

Well, I said if you actually paid

1:07:06

attention that I was playing

1:07:09

Mike O'Connor's beer

1:07:11

hall poach in Staten Island. Mike O'Connor's

1:07:15

beer hall poach. Mike O'Connor

1:07:17

got it. Mike O'Connor. There's no beer

1:07:19

hall poach without Mike O'Connor.

1:07:22

He's been great to me and

1:07:25

he's old school. He cares

1:07:27

about the craft. He listens to the comics

1:07:30

and there aren't too many bookers like

1:07:32

Mike O'Connor still. Okay, yeah

1:07:34

I'm never I don't I'm not familiar with

1:07:37

Mike O'Connor. Oh

1:07:39

man, wow. 400 blowing

1:07:41

me.

1:07:42

Right? I'm not. No,

1:07:45

I don't know who Mike O'Connor is. I'm 400 blowing

1:07:48

you. You're trying to ruin things

1:07:50

between me and Mike O'Connor. And you

1:07:52

know I told him I was plugging the club on your

1:07:54

show and he got all excited and

1:07:56

you're like you know you're embarrassing me.

1:07:59

I don't know who Mike.

1:07:59

michael connor is i'm not i'm like i'm

1:08:02

sorry i'm not four hundred

1:08:03

you are i don't know what that is four hundred

1:08:06

blowing me because you're jealous that

1:08:08

i'm still in the game sam playing the clubs

1:08:11

pounding it out and you're not you were always you're

1:08:13

always jealous that i had the hunger for

1:08:16

stand-up new lost it i don't know

1:08:18

you i'm but quite sure in fact i'm

1:08:20

i'm i'm sure that that's not true

1:08:23

you don't remember michael connor from boston

1:08:26

do i remember michael connor from boston

1:08:28

no i don't remember michael connor from boston

1:08:31

tiki torch tiki torch o'connor

1:08:34

tiki torch michael connor you don't

1:08:36

remember tiki torch no david

1:08:39

i'm sure you don't i grew up in but

1:08:41

i i i knew boston i knew all the comics

1:08:43

i did not know uh comedian name

1:08:47

well booker or whatever he was

1:08:49

tiki torch you know him

1:08:51

tiki torch very edgy

1:08:54

lot of crowd work he says the things

1:08:56

everybody's thinking but are too

1:08:59

afraid to articulate

1:09:01

you know uses the c

1:09:03

word the n word the b word

1:09:05

the z word the lgbtq word very

1:09:08

dangerous and you're done and it's

1:09:10

very dangerous

1:09:11

and you tell me now runs a

1:09:13

a basement club in satin island michael

1:09:17

connor's

1:09:18

beer hall putch

1:09:20

thank you thank you

1:09:22

thank you yes

1:09:24

and he also records a podcast and

1:09:27

uh...

1:09:28

yeah you would love the show you should

1:09:30

uh... long-form conversation

1:09:33

rethinkers

1:09:35

yeah like i don't know what

1:09:38

shane gillis jimmy

1:09:40

door jackson hit jackson

1:09:42

hinkle met taiyvi bill moor

1:09:45

uh... bill muh bill mar i don't know

1:09:47

how to pronounce his last name mar

1:09:49

mar you know my heart

1:09:52

and russell brand uh... russell

1:09:54

brand is on rethinkers searching

1:09:56

for answers you

1:09:59

know unlike

1:09:59

And I don't mean to get into it with you because

1:10:02

I have

1:10:03

tremendous respect. But

1:10:06

unlike you, he doesn't fall prey to this whole... I heard

1:10:08

you were talking to Alex.

1:10:12

You're in that left-right-versus-right

1:10:15

thing. It's tired. You can't pigeonhole

1:10:17

Tiki Torch and I respect that.

1:10:20

Yeah, I

1:10:22

am somewhat familiar with that

1:10:24

type. Yeah. I

1:10:26

thought you said you don't know who Tiki Torch

1:10:28

is. I don't know who Tiki Torch

1:10:30

is. I'm familiar

1:10:32

with the type of person that you're describing.

1:10:35

There is no type. That's what I just

1:10:37

said. You can't pigeonhole Tiki

1:10:40

Torch. He's not a type.

1:10:42

Okay, you can't. Whatever. Okay,

1:10:44

go ahead. He's open-minded.

1:10:47

Unlike you, he's a free fit.

1:10:50

He was going to vote for Bernie,

1:10:52

but you should have on the show. He

1:10:54

was going to vote for Bernie, but at the

1:10:56

last minute, he changed his mind.

1:10:59

Something about... I guess Bernie

1:11:01

was against Shelby or something?

1:11:04

Shelby County? Like as in

1:11:06

Shelby County versus Holder? Like the Shelby

1:11:08

County case about voting? That

1:11:11

sounds about right. Tiki

1:11:13

was rooting for Shelby County.

1:11:16

Well, they won.

1:11:18

Okay, I don't follow college football.

1:11:20

No, it was not college football. It's a Supreme

1:11:23

Court decision from 10 years

1:11:25

ago that seriously

1:11:27

undermined the Voting Rights Act. Well,

1:11:29

I don't follow that either. It's

1:11:33

stripped out big parts of Section 5

1:11:36

of the Voting Rights Act from 1965. It's a little

1:11:38

before

1:11:40

my time, 1965, okay? No, no, no. 1965 was when the Voting Rights

1:11:45

Act

1:11:50

in 2013 is when the Roberts Court said that

1:11:53

states that used to have preclearance

1:11:56

from the old Confederacy and in New York

1:11:59

had to accept...

1:11:59

in with the DOJ before they change their laws

1:12:02

because every time they did, they try and disenfranchise

1:12:04

voters.

1:12:06

Okay, and I've heard Tiki George talk

1:12:08

about that, and he

1:12:10

says that's a good thing.

1:12:12

No, it's not a good thing.

1:12:15

It's a bad thing. What?

1:12:17

Why? Scalia said that

1:12:20

the only reason why they reauthorized

1:12:22

the Voting Rights Act,

1:12:23

whenever it was 2006, was because

1:12:26

the

1:12:26

senators were afraid of being called

1:12:28

racist, and that there was no longer time,

1:12:31

reason to give away this sort of like

1:12:33

privilege to black people.

1:12:37

And that's a good thing, right? No,

1:12:40

it's a bad thing. It's

1:12:42

a bad thing. Why is that? Why

1:12:44

is that? Why? Why is that

1:12:46

a bad thing? I don't know. Isn't it a good

1:12:48

thing that black people

1:12:51

can vote in the South now? That

1:12:54

they couldn't vote in 1965? Isn't

1:12:57

that a good thing?

1:12:59

Why are you

1:13:01

saying it's a

1:13:03

bad thing

1:13:04

for black people to be able to vote

1:13:07

in the South?

1:13:09

Why would you say that? I

1:13:11

wouldn't. That's not what I said. You

1:13:14

just said it's a bad thing,

1:13:16

that it's easier now for black

1:13:18

people to vote unless you're 400 blowing me.

1:13:21

No, I didn't say that. That's what the Roberts

1:13:24

Court said.

1:13:25

The Roberts Court said that

1:13:27

it's easier for black people to vote

1:13:29

today than it was 50 years

1:13:31

ago, and you think that's wrong.

1:13:35

Yeah, I mean, exactly. I mean, it's completely

1:13:37

wrong. You

1:13:40

think it's wrong

1:13:42

for it to be easier for black people

1:13:44

to vote? That seems, I

1:13:47

mean, that seems racist to me. That's

1:13:49

also not what I said.

1:13:51

Okay. You did say that, Emma,

1:13:53

unless he's 400. Yeah, I

1:13:55

mean, I

1:13:56

don't think he did say that, David.

1:13:58

I don't think he

1:13:59

did say that.

1:13:59

Wow. And also, I thought you

1:14:02

were coming on. I was told

1:14:04

that you were coming on to talk about Kevin McCarthy.

1:14:06

And we were gonna, you know,

1:14:08

talk a bit about the race for speaker. And

1:14:11

we're gonna handicap

1:14:12

it. What

1:14:16

did you say?

1:14:17

We were gonna handicap the race for

1:14:19

speaker. Wow.

1:14:23

Handicapable. I

1:14:26

came on this show to hand, I came on

1:14:28

this show to handicapable

1:14:32

who the next speaker is, not handicap.

1:14:36

You shame on you.

1:14:39

You're just like the Nevada Gaming Commission.

1:14:42

What?

1:14:44

You're like the Nevada Gaming

1:14:46

Commission. I created, I don't

1:14:49

want to talk,

1:14:50

I created an app

1:14:53

that allows people to place bets

1:14:56

on the Invictus games. Are

1:14:58

you familiar with Prince Harry's thing

1:15:01

with the wounded warriors? Because

1:15:03

you use the term handicap. So

1:15:05

I doubt you're aware of the Invictus games.

1:15:07

Are you aware of the Invictus games? Yeah.

1:15:09

We all know about the Invictus games,

1:15:12

David. You do? Well, your

1:15:14

co-host is using terms like handicap

1:15:17

instead of handicapable. And

1:15:19

she's probably sitting on the Nevada Gaming Commission

1:15:22

because they wouldn't let me help our wounded

1:15:24

warriors by

1:15:26

granting the license to

1:15:29

make it so anyone can bet on the Invictus

1:15:31

games. Even children. This

1:15:34

app allows children to bet. David, then

1:15:37

how does that help the wounded warriors? I

1:15:40

wouldn't expect you to know that. But

1:15:43

by taking bets on the Invictus

1:15:45

games, it's great publicity for Prince

1:15:47

Harry's cause. And

1:15:50

this gets kids to learn about

1:15:52

terms like handicapable by getting

1:15:56

them to bet on the Invictus games.

1:15:58

Anyway, kids.

1:15:59

This is not why I came on to talk

1:16:02

about this. This is not what I wanted

1:16:04

to do. I wanted to talk about Kevin

1:16:08

McCarthy and, you know,

1:16:10

Kiki Torch should be on your show.

1:16:13

He really should.

1:16:14

You

1:16:16

should have him on the show. Kiki

1:16:20

Torch. That's his name, Kiki Torch.

1:16:23

Kiki Torch O'Connor. Go

1:16:25

ahead. Yeah.

1:16:28

They're waiting. So what do you want to talk about? Let's

1:16:30

talk about Stelis,

1:16:33

Jim Jordan. Let's get into

1:16:35

it. Well, wait a second. I wanted to, like, I'm just curious.

1:16:37

Like you said that Kiki Torch O'Connor,

1:16:40

your buddy, sat on his podcast. He

1:16:43

was going to vote for Bernie. And then at the last minute, he changed

1:16:45

his mind. Yeah.

1:16:48

He's open-minded. You

1:16:50

know, he's a mixed martial arts

1:16:53

guy. Likes to stand his ground,

1:16:55

but then he's willing to bend. You

1:16:58

know, he's got core principles, but you

1:17:01

should listen to him. What are his core principles? I

1:17:04

don't understand. Why don't you have him

1:17:06

on the show and find

1:17:08

out? It's stuff that I don't understand, like

1:17:10

auditing the Fed. Well, auditing

1:17:13

the Fed seems reasonable. Okay,

1:17:15

then have him on the show. And he wants to,

1:17:18

he wants to try Jerome Powell, the

1:17:20

chairman of the Fed for treason, but... He

1:17:23

wants to try, like put him on trial for treason?

1:17:26

That seems a little bit excessive. I mean,

1:17:28

so

1:17:29

he wants to get rid of the Fed.

1:17:32

See, they're...

1:17:34

No, that's not...

1:17:36

Do you listen to Tiki Torch?

1:17:39

No, I didn't even know who he was until

1:17:41

you brought him up. Well, he doesn't speak

1:17:43

because he doesn't, unlike you, doesn't talk in, what

1:17:45

do they call it, sound bites. He wants to audit

1:17:48

the Fed. He doesn't want to eliminate

1:17:51

the Fed. He never said that, Sam.

1:17:53

Well, you just said to me that he wants to try

1:17:55

Jerome Powell for treason, and

1:17:58

that seems like excessive.

1:17:59

I don't know how you try the guys didn't

1:18:02

want to get rid of getting rid of the Fed

1:18:04

is excessive He just wants to

1:18:06

try Jerome Powell for treason and

1:18:09

something

1:18:11

So that like mandatory blood

1:18:13

tests for anyone who sits on the

1:18:15

Fed to make sure they're not

1:18:17

Ashkenazi Jews, but

1:18:20

he wants to You

1:18:23

don't have a problem with that I'm

1:18:26

not a financial guy. I don't really understand

1:18:28

how the Fed works.

1:18:30

I mean Tiki

1:18:31

torch

1:18:33

He studied economics with

1:18:35

hit that Hillsdale Hillsdale College,

1:18:38

you know, it's about

1:18:39

he Online he knows

1:18:41

all about the got currencies. I don't

1:18:43

the gold standard. I just don't understand

1:18:45

that. So so Tiki

1:18:47

You know, I defer to him. Yeah, you defer

1:18:49

to him I'm going to be clear you don't have a problem

1:18:52

with mandatory blood tests for all potential

1:18:55

People who would sit on the Fed to make sure that

1:18:57

they're not Ashkenazi Jews

1:19:01

Like I said, I don't know how the Fed works Yeah,

1:19:03

but how the Fed works has nothing to

1:19:05

do with checking people's blood

1:19:07

type

1:19:09

Okay, so obviously you've studied

1:19:11

up on this and you should have Tiki torch

1:19:14

Have him have him on the show you would

1:19:16

he's a free thinker a lot

1:19:18

of what he says You would agree

1:19:20

with yeah, I know I don't think so seriously.

1:19:23

Yeah Really don't know he's

1:19:25

liberal. He's not he's liberal a

1:19:27

lot of things you never even heard the

1:19:29

guy You don't know him. I've only

1:19:31

heard what you've told me But he's

1:19:34

to the left of most people on most

1:19:36

things He's a peacenik

1:19:38

wants the war in Ukraine to be

1:19:40

over says war is not the answer Okay,

1:19:43

you can't get any more left than that. He says,

1:19:46

you know give a Ukraine to Putin He's

1:19:48

totally against the military industrial complex

1:19:51

says Zelensky is an Ashkenazi

1:19:53

Jew I guess Zelensky sits on

1:19:55

the Fed or something. But again, I don't understand

1:19:57

how you know Patriot missiles

1:19:59

He's got, you know, TP Church has

1:20:02

long hair and tattoos. Yeah,

1:20:04

I don't. He wants peace in Ukraine. I don't think I want

1:20:06

to talk to him. He wants peace in Ukraine. I don't think I

1:20:08

want to talk to him.

1:20:09

He loves rock and

1:20:11

roll, smokes marijuana,

1:20:14

he wants to legalize it. That's pretty much to

1:20:16

the left of most people. So the drug

1:20:18

companies are terrified of marijuana

1:20:20

because of all its,

1:20:22

you know, healing properties. So this

1:20:24

guy's a, this guy's a lusty just

1:20:26

like you. Not interested in

1:20:29

having him on the phone. Of course you're not. Yeah, of

1:20:31

course. Because you're a smug, arrogant,

1:20:35

like TP Church

1:20:38

has an open mind. You would agree with him.

1:20:40

Yeah. A lot of things. A lot of things.

1:20:43

You talk about, he hates big pharma, Sam. He

1:20:45

hates big pharma? Oh, I'm sure he does. Yeah.

1:20:49

What does he think about COVID or ivermectin

1:20:52

or

1:20:52

quarter o'clock hydrocloxic

1:20:55

queen?

1:20:57

Okay. So this stuff, I don't understand

1:21:00

pharma. Is it called pharmacology?

1:21:03

I don't know. ivermectin

1:21:05

is horse-paced, right?

1:21:07

Well, I mean, it's, yeah,

1:21:09

they use it for horse-based. It's not

1:21:11

exclusive to that. But my

1:21:13

point is, I'm assuming that Tiki believes

1:21:15

that ivermectin cures COVID.

1:21:20

See? This is why you need to have Tiki

1:21:22

on your show. You can't put him in a box.

1:21:25

No, he doesn't. See? He doesn't advocate

1:21:28

ivermectin. He says it's of no value. It doesn't

1:21:30

work. Okay? Interesting.

1:21:33

Okay. I'm sorry. All

1:21:35

right. Okay. He shouldn't have been

1:21:38

assumed. He's not pushing ivermectin as a way to

1:21:40

cure or prevent COVID.

1:21:42

No. Great. He

1:21:45

says ivermectin is just as

1:21:47

ineffective as the vaccine. He

1:21:49

says they're one and the same. It's just

1:21:51

a big pharma trying

1:21:54

to scare people into being guinea pigs for

1:21:56

their experimental drugs for a

1:21:58

non-existent virus.

1:21:59

I think we're done. I've made my assessment.

1:22:02

Now pass.

1:22:08

All right. Well,

1:22:10

I'm going to be at Mike O'Connor's Beer Hall, Pudge,

1:22:13

and Staten Island. And you're

1:22:15

welcome to come out and meet Mike

1:22:18

O'Connor. The first show starts at 4 p.m.

1:22:21

this afternoon.

1:22:22

Yeah, and make sure

1:22:24

that you use the handrails, right?

1:22:27

Walking downstairs?

1:22:29

Because people died. Anyway,

1:22:33

I'm sure your listeners will

1:22:35

want to come out and see me

1:22:39

at Michael Connor's Beer Hall,

1:22:41

Pudge. It's in Staten Island.

1:22:44

Promo Code, Jews will not

1:22:47

replace us.

1:22:49

Sorry?

1:22:51

Promo Code, Jews

1:22:53

will not replace us. You get a

1:22:56

discount on warm

1:22:58

cans of Bud White. Great.

1:23:01

That's great. I'm not really sure why

1:23:03

we do this sometimes. David, I've got to

1:23:05

be honest with you. Well,

1:23:09

now I feel like I know

1:23:12

what it's like to have been blown 400

1:23:14

times.

1:23:16

It's not. No, David,

1:23:19

it's called gaslighting. There's no such

1:23:21

thing as 400 blowing you.

1:23:24

No, no, I feel like I've been blown 400

1:23:27

times. I just want to take a nap. You

1:23:32

know what? You should do that.

1:23:35

You're going to say goodbye now. This was

1:23:38

very rude. Bye, David.

1:23:40

It was. It was.

1:23:43

Tamora from The Five says, when Feldman

1:23:45

is speaking, does Emma ever regret joining the

1:23:47

show?

1:23:49

On the contrary.

1:23:50

Really? I love Feldman. Seriously?

1:23:53

Yeah.

1:23:54

Maybe I just, I have pity for him.

1:23:56

Are you 400 blowing us?

1:23:59

With that I am NOT I'm not I'm

1:24:02

not 400

1:24:02

blowing anybody. I thought it's fun to have

1:24:04

a fever sometimes

1:24:06

Yeah, I'm a little worried right

1:24:08

It feels like I

1:24:10

don't think he's been out yet

1:24:13

Like since like 2019 late late 2019

1:24:18

Listen a lot of podcasts. I guess

1:24:20

you still locking down. Mm-hmm. Yep

1:24:24

A Boner

1:24:28

pills and Dreadbull says

1:24:30

Sam, how could you be so incredibly insensitive to David

1:24:32

you wouldn't ask Pete Townsend of the who questions

1:24:35

about About

1:24:39

the who questions about the tragic deaths at their

1:24:41

concert in Cincinnati, would you

1:24:45

Yeah, I know a lot of people are a little upset I

1:24:47

mean Felton that's weird he was acting

1:24:49

very weird

1:24:51

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All

1:26:09

right, folks. 6462573920. See you in the fun. No,

1:26:14

no, no, no, no, no,

1:26:16

no. Oh,

1:26:18

are we ready? Hi.

1:26:25

What do you think that is? No, that, that,

1:26:27

that are.

1:26:28

Alpha males, um.

1:26:32

Boys, and the, the males, um.

1:26:36

Um, and the, and the, and the

1:26:38

males, um. And

1:26:42

the, and the mama males, um. Just wanted

1:26:45

to, just wanted to show my hands, the mama

1:26:48

males, um. Hi,

1:26:50

it's people in the kitchen, the

1:26:53

mama males, um. And the mama males,

1:26:55

um. And the mama males, um.

1:26:58

And the mama males, um. You

1:27:00

know, that, that, that the mama

1:27:02

males, um. The

1:27:05

mama males, man, they don't wanna,

1:27:06

they don't wanna fucking nightmare, nightmare. They don't

1:27:08

wanna bring back the mama males. Yeah, or a couple

1:27:11

of them, just put them in rotation. Well,

1:27:13

the problem with those is they're like 45 seconds long, so we had

1:27:15

an upgrade.

1:28:04

All lives matter. Have

1:28:07

you tried doing an impression on a college

1:28:09

college business? I think that

1:28:11

there's no reason. White and reasonable

1:28:14

people run the divide. Can't hold a business.

1:28:17

Like... You know what

1:28:19

I'm saying? All

1:28:24

lives matter. White and reasonable

1:28:27

people run the divide. And

1:28:30

all lives matter. White and reasonable

1:28:33

people run the divide. Have

1:28:35

you tried doing an impression on a college college business? I don't know.

1:28:39

You're not here to be taking over my

1:28:41

ginada. You're even at 100. You're

1:28:44

not. I've got

1:28:47

a whole entire game for you. I'm

1:28:49

waiting for a birthday. This

1:28:53

burger is made from wood. They

1:28:56

have it around each other. We need to help the

1:28:58

males out. I'm

1:29:00

going to start the mails

1:29:03

out. Oh!

1:29:07

I'm going to take it to the stage. The

1:29:10

lock! We need to be the place for her to be

1:29:12

around here. We need to

1:29:14

be the place for her to be around here.