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Well welcome to Cultural Catalyst where we help you to

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learn how to live fully live, co-labor

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with God, and change the world. And

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I'm your host, Chris Felleton. And I

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have Lana, and Lana would you share your last

1:51

name please so I don't hack it? Yes,

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it's Vosa. Vosa,

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Yes, spelled B-A-W-S-E-A-N. They

2:00

are. And see is

2:02

from Sydney, Australia. Evidently,

2:04

Suzette battles for six months

2:07

many years ago. She's a

2:09

renowned boys the profit. A

2:11

global profit Actually, she's She's shoveled all

2:13

over the world. In. Prophetic

2:15

Ministry. And she has a

2:17

real hard to encourage believers. Has her own

2:19

ministry in which her husband actually works in

2:22

her ministry with her, which is pretty cool.

2:24

You have four kids now just have a

2:26

one year old. the have a. Nineteen

2:28

year old? What? Sixteen Year old? What's

2:30

the As? Yeah. My

2:32

oldest is fourteen. I can't believe that

2:34

worked. Yeah, I've got three boys. Yeah.

2:37

Boy from one gal. That. Your your

2:39

a lot easier or youngest child the girl

2:41

right? Yes,

2:44

the Macys Lion.

2:46

Yeah. And the Lord towards you're going have

2:49

another baby and you ended up with a

2:51

one year olds as had that saw the

2:53

year ago Odst citing. Yeah

2:56

it was incredible. It was one of

2:58

those moments where the line surprises you

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decide to me in a dream and

3:02

the and then three years later seats

3:04

and up and sees just the most

3:06

beautiful guess. I got Connelly.

3:09

She's one that is beautiful. A

3:11

beautiful story so too I want to

3:13

get you introduced to my audience because

3:16

lot of my audience to zur in

3:18

Australia in that area may not know

3:20

who you are. And. So a

3:22

little your background, I know your

3:24

profits. And. We met in Why

3:27

wham? you're just telling me the

3:29

story Off. Off. Line sure

3:31

that story. Yeah.

3:33

This is amazing and say saw quite

3:36

a number of years and I was

3:38

having all of these are visions and

3:40

dreams and the Lord with signs mates

3:42

as cold you as a process has

3:44

a nice and clear just terrified me

3:47

and and then the Lord says to

3:49

me as he is light are once

3:51

you've got a while and use with

3:53

a mission so I am fizzling and

3:55

here we go. Chico Calif is highlighted.

3:58

Some may say the Lord says. There

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and we did our on our

4:02

outreach and Cj and I'm sitting

4:05

in a very hot classrooms when

4:07

you and Kathy walked in and

4:09

you're the one that prost the

4:12

side over may not only so

4:14

many of the chances that the

4:17

Lord has spoken to me about

4:19

being a profit to the nation

4:21

but you looked into my future

4:24

and spite so many things that

4:26

the Lord had highlighted snakes and

4:29

Say in that season. And

4:31

you are really the one

4:33

that just concerned so much

4:35

may and catapulted me into.

4:39

An interesting training seasons of that with

4:41

the Lord. So yeah, that was quite

4:43

a number of years ago now. And

4:45

it. And it's interesting because I will never

4:47

forget that trip. Because. Why?

4:50

Well you know we caught without money. Why?

4:53

Will put me up the output Chelsea

4:55

ny up in a really nice hotel

4:57

it or know like a five star

4:59

hotel hundred or two to see. It

5:01

was really beautiful as but are they

5:03

did not teach on that in that

5:06

hotel they taught down the street which

5:08

was. A building it might

5:10

have had windows but unremembered having windows

5:12

and it was so hot. And.

5:15

I taught like five hours or six

5:17

hours a day for five days. And.

5:19

Every and rig a session I

5:22

would run across the street to

5:24

my hotel. Take. A shower,

5:26

says. My clothes. And. Then

5:28

run back there. Because of it

5:30

was so humid I thought it's going

5:33

to die in there. That

5:35

saliva is the on that yeah as

5:37

you're in his twenties and up, minutes

5:40

is. Cause so many

5:42

people. So. So. So

5:44

crazy I ah interesting, it wouldn't have

5:46

been in your why wham but a

5:49

year later. I was in

5:51

a in Hawaii and I prophesied over

5:53

this young lady. They had. Lost.

5:55

Their only child. she was like five or

5:57

six years old. And. They had.

6:00

You tube some rare

6:02

disease. And. They kinda why web

6:04

and they were just can put a depressed and. The.

6:07

Looked so at and I and I knew

6:09

what had happened to say you know the

6:11

Dts leader had told me There I said

6:13

in the always looked depressing and idea you

6:15

lost a child just three months ago for

6:17

the came here so lord gave me this

6:19

word for them. At

6:21

the last day that I was there that

6:23

the that govs gonna give them back double

6:25

he's going to give them twins. And.

6:28

I and I completely forgot about. The reason

6:30

I bring it up is because I was

6:32

in another place just about him for five

6:35

months. Go eyes and Alaska Five months ago

6:37

and this lady comes up to you remember

6:39

me I said no I don't She said

6:41

I was in why when hawaii and said

6:44

always the teacher lot She said i'd We

6:46

just lost a child for five years old

6:48

and you told me that I was going

6:50

to have twins. And. She

6:53

said we I got pregnant that week. And.

6:55

She brought up two girls and there

6:57

were seventeen. So seventeen years ago and

6:59

she said these are the two twins

7:02

I had when are you from me

7:04

and I was like a it's you,

7:06

don't you just never know Like right?

7:08

This is the beauty is the thing

7:10

about the prophetic mysteries. Years.

7:12

Fruit that you don't see too many

7:14

years later it's just beautiful. Scene is.

7:18

Okay, So we're going to talk

7:20

about prophetic ministry. Tells.

7:22

Is a little bit about your journey

7:24

to becoming a profit. or you know,

7:28

Eerie been acknowledged as a profit in how

7:30

did you feel Kind of. Break.

7:32

Into the the public platform I

7:34

have that. Yeah

7:37

and say when I was sas

7:39

and less concerned a lot are

7:41

sick saints and and and immediately

7:44

I had this see a natural

7:46

hunger and to hear from god

7:48

I would read the word own

7:50

is it said I could have

7:52

it than I wanted it and

7:55

and I would do a citizen's

7:57

rain about the lord species mates

7:59

like. The Mountain. like the

8:01

Charlton Heston dating Voice of God

8:03

and and I would just position

8:05

myself. Every. Day on my

8:07

bedroom floor and I gotta own. I

8:09

need to hear your voice and I

8:12

would be in the word. And it

8:14

was just such a passion of mine

8:16

to linger in his presence and all

8:18

I wanted was his heart and his

8:20

voice and so some many years on

8:22

the Lord I that the Holy Spirit

8:24

really trained me. When I first got

8:26

saved I was saved in a Baptist

8:28

church. A beautiful Baptist church that told

8:31

me the solid foundation or word of

8:33

the Lord and that season sir may

8:35

I was in a in. This that

8:37

this church yet having prophetic he

8:39

counts a not understanding what was

8:41

happening and in that season the

8:43

Lord was the one that really

8:45

taught me I'm. A. Lot

8:47

about sharing his voice through the

8:50

word and as I journeyed for

8:52

quite a number of years in

8:54

that space with the Lord I

8:56

started to have these moments which

8:58

I now understand was the spirit

9:00

of God coming upon me to

9:02

prophesies. But I would be sitting

9:05

reading the word and all of

9:07

a sudden I had this overwhelming

9:09

feeling I need to write and

9:11

would sit at my computer and

9:13

I would start to write these

9:15

words that were like like. Letters

9:17

of Love from the heart of the

9:20

Father to the Church and as a

9:22

young believe I'm in a baptist church.

9:24

I have no idea what to do

9:26

with these things and I hear this

9:29

voice one day so strongly like it

9:31

was, It wasn't audible but it does.

9:33

The thought was so loud and and

9:35

I heard the Lord say start a

9:37

blog. So. I'm you know here

9:39

I am in Sydney as a young

9:42

believe on I just start riding on

9:44

a blog surveys that releasing these words

9:46

that the Lord had given me for

9:48

the church and I am quite a

9:50

number of years later it was Steve

9:53

Schultz from the Alija list actually that

9:55

reached out to me and said I

9:57

recognized as a existing on you can

9:59

I share these words that you're releasing.

10:02

And. From that point it was like

10:04

the law just ice and asked his

10:06

public space or to me that I

10:09

never expected. Thought it

10:11

was definitely this season, whether the lord

10:13

had prepared me for such a time.

10:16

And. Would have the galaxy on

10:18

it was over their face. Like you came

10:20

as a baptist church. so you know I

10:22

mean elite American baptist churches don't. Most.

10:25

Of them don't really embrace you

10:27

know, especially profits. Maybe being do

10:30

prophetic ministry? But. Have

10:32

you faced a lot of obstacles

10:34

in your in your journey? I.

10:37

Has yes other the Baptist church that

10:40

I was ends and they weren't moving

10:42

in the prosthetic and so the Sas

10:44

Connor obstacle that I found was on

10:47

my gosh like I don't see how

10:49

do I sit here and I didn't

10:51

really understand what a prosody then looked

10:54

like what is a profit do I'm

10:56

having these dreams God saying get ready

10:58

is gonna be a profit The nation's

11:01

am and so identity was a big

11:03

seems to me. So. Immediately what

11:05

happened because I felt so misunderstood or

11:07

I felt like I didn't see it.

11:10

I then began to take my identity

11:12

in the sack that I was cold

11:14

to be a profit and I have

11:16

a very funny story because I'm a

11:18

few years later once the lord had

11:21

begun to open doors Sir may I

11:23

got an invitation to another nice and

11:25

and they ask for the com and

11:27

minister and I saw a trace I

11:30

was gonna be the next joy smile

11:32

on like I'm going to be the

11:34

Joyce. Maya of the Prophetic Movement. I

11:36

had my little business cards printed off

11:39

and I was ready to die when

11:41

I got on the plane and I

11:43

and I had actually made these fliers

11:45

that says Revival welcoming lot of all

11:48

as are So I had the big

11:50

drain like I'm gonna be like a

11:52

big shots and I am. I get

11:55

over there and within twenty four hours

11:57

of being there and they were a

11:59

point. I thought I had that

12:01

just. Vanished, some of them

12:04

got cancelled and I sat in

12:06

a room. In

12:08

this in in England and I said

12:10

to the law and like, who am

12:13

I without these things, like who am

12:15

I without ministry like you've called me

12:17

to be a profit to the nation's

12:19

and now you can't All of my

12:21

appointments and some A That was one

12:23

of the biggest obstacles that I sized

12:25

as a young believer. Recognizing that single

12:28

on a dora like that's who I

12:30

am like My identity is in the

12:32

fact that I'm a daughter of the

12:34

King I am. Love them And Sally

12:36

you'd because I'm a daughter. I am

12:38

so is. He is my beloved I.

12:41

and he is and that was a

12:43

huge obstacle for me and. For.

12:46

Many years and it was in

12:48

that place that the Lord began

12:50

to strip a lot of things

12:52

away and actually fortify my identity

12:54

in him. And as adored assistant

12:56

for my so I would say that

12:58

was probably one of the biggest obstacles

13:00

to make. And then as I grew

13:02

up in the prophetic, you're staying in

13:04

the prophetic authors. I

13:07

would say understanding that revelation that

13:09

you receive is not automatically to

13:11

be shared just for she she

13:13

is something doesn't mean that you

13:15

really sit and I would often

13:17

get these urgency like got a

13:19

spike and really sets and and

13:22

the lord with side milan I

13:24

gave that to you. See

13:26

to pray. Don't. Rush releasing

13:28

Revelation. And so that was

13:30

another kind of big lesson

13:33

that I had to learn

13:35

in the Stewardship of Revelation

13:37

that not everything needs to

13:39

be shed immediately or even

13:41

at all sometimes. But also,

13:43

it's not my job to

13:45

interpret. The. Prophetic would? that's that's

13:48

on the Lord And so they just

13:50

a few things that I have. Two

13:53

hundred, yes and as obstacles Return

13:55

Young for the season. Oh

13:58

My. Habit. The The: the

14:00

prophetic word you're carrying so. I'd.

14:03

Love to hear like how you got it

14:05

out, what you're feeling and is it. A.

14:07

Global word or worse for Sydney or. A.

14:10

Were specifically for the church, So who's it

14:12

pointed out and what are you feeling? Yeah.

14:16

Yeah say and my posture every day

14:18

before the lord I have my coffee

14:20

with Jesus and I ask him every

14:22

day lot what's on your heart and

14:24

and that's where I was in this

14:26

line at last year and and the

14:28

Lord said to me. He

14:30

said begin again. And I

14:33

said begin again and immediately I

14:35

was taken into this encounter and

14:37

I saw. Jesus

14:39

said he was standing in the current

14:41

season and that we are in right

14:43

now and I knew that it represented

14:45

the season that we are A and

14:47

it's so many as the body of

14:49

Christ or but I also saw Jesus

14:51

standing in. Our. Past seasons so

14:54

I could see him in the

14:56

center of seasons gone by and

14:58

he funded these words again begin

15:00

again like it was so loud

15:02

in my spirits and my said

15:04

lord, what are you saying and

15:06

he said on redeeming time and

15:08

as soon as he said those

15:10

words begin again I saw this

15:12

convergence of seeds and spoils of

15:14

previous seasons all coming together right

15:16

now in this year and in

15:18

the next couple of years for

15:20

the body of Christ and it

15:22

was. A place of harvest. It

15:24

was a place where so many

15:26

have felt like there has been

15:29

so much trial or opposition or

15:31

weariness or and this feeling like

15:33

they just same knocked around and

15:35

there's been so much loss that

15:38

the Lord was speaking this redemption

15:40

of time. It was there and

15:42

mighty rates and pants. It was

15:44

a mighty a restoration and it

15:46

was a full circle. And.

15:49

Add the lord said to me

15:51

that lama in this money to

15:53

the agents of the seed same

15:55

signs in previous seasons and the

15:57

spoils of war as they collide

15:59

right. He said I'm

16:01

bringing a great a fruitfulness and

16:03

a great a refreshment. And as

16:06

I saw this kind of unfolding.

16:09

I saw that the Lord said

16:11

to me that many have drop

16:14

things, they've laid things down in

16:16

the past year couple of years

16:18

might even go back further than

16:20

that and where they've been so

16:22

discouraged or this fades and the

16:25

same. so much opposition that they've

16:27

dropped things whether it's assignment or

16:29

passions as they have drained that

16:31

the Lord had given them and

16:33

he spoke those words again. Begin

16:36

again. it's time to pick those

16:38

things up again. And in

16:40

that places I guess beginning again

16:42

there was a knicks fan sense

16:45

that the Lord was bringing for

16:47

I'm not only restoration and read

16:49

contents thought for a positioning to

16:52

say a great i'm the this

16:54

his spirit in those very areas

16:56

and. And. As I

16:58

continued college to sit with the

17:01

Lord I keep, I can't even

17:03

count how many times I've had

17:05

dreams or visions. The Shia A

17:07

leading into this year sorry I'm

17:09

around ascending. And Psalm Twenty

17:12

Four the load calling us as

17:14

she is people to this place

17:16

of deeper consecration to this place

17:18

of ascending the mountain of the

17:20

Lord From that place of intimacy

17:22

is clean hands and a pure

17:24

heart to make room for the

17:27

glory of the lord and I

17:29

really feel like him this season

17:31

and that were coming to a

17:33

higher level of seen from the

17:35

perspective of God. That. As

17:37

we see from like how he

17:39

sees that he's releasing divine in

17:41

hell for intercession for us to

17:43

really engage with heaven in what

17:45

he is declaring over our lives

17:48

over us cities of around nations

17:50

to partner with him and that

17:52

place of intercession to make room

17:54

for the king of glory to

17:56

come in. And. so

17:58

that's kind of some of the things that i have

18:00

to really been carrying in this season as the

18:04

Lord calls us higher. Do

18:06

you think that there's any practical application

18:08

that is, you know,

18:10

prophetically directed from those prophetic words?

18:13

Like is there, you know, you

18:16

know how sometimes the Lord

18:18

gives you like things

18:20

to do to see the

18:23

word, you know, accomplished in our lives. Do

18:27

you feel like there's any kind of activation

18:29

that's necessary to receive the

18:31

kind of begin again word? I

18:34

do, yeah. I actually, the

18:37

Lord had me do it for my own personal life.

18:39

He said to me, Lana, I want you to sit

18:41

down and write down the areas

18:43

where you see there has been loss. And

18:46

I want to be very clear on this, like

18:48

this wasn't a come and focus on the things

18:50

that have been stolen or broken or discouragement. It

18:52

was the Lord saying, just lift them down. And

18:55

I wrote them down and the Lord said to

18:57

me, now go to the word and take the

18:59

promise of the word that is the opposite to

19:01

this. So let's say, for example, there is this

19:05

place where you have experienced a broken

19:07

heart. Well, then I would go and

19:09

I'd grab a scripture about how the

19:11

Lord binds up the broken hearted. And

19:13

there was a real invitation for the

19:15

Lord, from the Lord,

19:17

sorry, to, I want to say,

19:19

exchange the loss,

19:22

like to hand over that

19:24

loss, that discouragement, that pain,

19:26

that trauma, and actually move

19:28

into a place of expectance,

19:30

say, like this place of

19:32

Lord, despite what I see,

19:34

despite what I feel, I'm

19:36

going to align myself with

19:39

your word. What are

19:41

you speaking? What have you promised me? And

19:44

what's the Rhema word that you

19:46

have spoken over this situation? And

19:49

the Lord is very clear in a

19:51

strategy that he spoke to me. He said,

19:53

Lana, it's important that my people rehearse the

19:55

Rhema. He said, you have to

19:57

rehearse the Rhema over and over again. how

20:00

many times, how easy is it to rehearse all

20:02

the other stuff, and the

20:04

losses and the pain. But

20:07

I feel this invitation that in the

20:09

beginning again, that we

20:11

would position ourselves and

20:14

lift up our eyes like and

20:16

focus on things of above. That

20:18

yes, there's a very real place where there's

20:21

emotional like pain and trauma and I'm not,

20:23

I'm not lessening that at all. But I

20:25

feel like there's a posture the Lord is

20:27

calling us to where He's saying lift up

20:30

your eyes and rehearse what

20:32

I'm saying, meditate on what I'm

20:34

saying and be expectant for me

20:36

to restore that which has

20:39

been broken or stolen.

20:41

What's the most profound lesson that

20:43

you've learned about the

20:45

heart of God towards His people? His

20:50

heart, like I

20:52

just, it's going to make

20:55

me cry. Like His heart for His people, like

20:58

you know, so often we can

21:00

walk through seasons and processes and

21:04

we can see things in the natural and

21:07

like be discouraged or overwhelmed.

21:10

And I think what I've

21:12

learned is that God's heart

21:14

to develop His

21:16

people in it or to invite

21:18

His people into this place of

21:21

intimacy, like He is so committed

21:23

to developing your relationship with Him

21:25

and for you to know Him,

21:27

like not just, oh, yeah, like someone

21:29

told me about Him, but to know

21:31

Him intimately that He is the relentless

21:33

pursuer, like in the Song of Songs,

21:35

you know, even in the places where

21:38

I hide, He comes closer. Like

21:40

there is this place where I

21:42

have just been absolutely

21:45

undone by the goodness of

21:47

God that nothing is wasted.

21:49

You know, there is things

21:51

are redeemed and restored in Him because

21:54

He's so for us and

21:56

that place where He is just

22:00

constantly calling us into

22:03

this place of deeper intimacy to truly

22:06

know Him and He's so present with

22:09

us in our process that He's

22:11

not standing on the sidelines saying, Lana, I

22:13

hope you can figure it out and get

22:15

it right. That He's close and He's like

22:18

so much so right that He sent His

22:20

one and only Son when there was nothing

22:22

I could do to save myself in

22:24

the biggest mess ever like the Father

22:26

sent His Son. So that

22:29

place of the heart of the Lord

22:31

for His people for you to flourish

22:34

in your communion with Him and then from

22:36

that place you go and partner with Him

22:38

in the earth, that's

22:41

marked my life forever. What's

22:44

the state of the Australian church? Right

22:50

now we are seeing some glorious

22:53

moves of the Spirit right now in

22:56

just reviving His people. One

22:59

of my beautiful friends, Catherine Raunala,

23:01

she runs Glory City in Brisbane

23:03

and oh golly, the

23:06

way I'm watching the Lord awaken

23:08

His people and the miracles that

23:10

are happening there in

23:13

other places and other states, I'm

23:15

watching the Lord restoring, I'm seeing

23:17

the Lord reawaken His people

23:19

to who He is and His

23:22

goodness and refreshing. There's

23:24

a lot of weary saints and

23:27

I'm seeing the

23:29

heart of the Father ministering to

23:31

His people to revive them and

23:33

to bring wholeness. There

23:35

is such a move of the

23:37

Spirit bringing deliverance and wholeness emotionally

23:40

to people right now. So I'm

23:42

seeing this especially right here in

23:44

Australia. God is healing His

23:47

people and refreshing us and calling,

23:49

gathering us to

23:51

really stand and be that city on a hill in

23:54

this nation. emerging

24:00

out of COVID so You

24:02

know still emerging at least in America. We are

24:05

you know, I think that we're We're

24:07

slowly getting back to a new normal as

24:09

you you know, just pointed out a new

24:12

beginning a new normal It

24:14

feels like it feels like It

24:17

doesn't feel like we're ever gonna get back to the

24:19

old normal It feels like we're gonna have a whole

24:21

new normal like the world has changed, right? Yeah,

24:24

I actually had a dream and I think it

24:26

was 2019 or maybe next it was 2017

24:30

and the Lord said to me that a new

24:32

era was coming and he said when the new

24:34

era comes and I didn't even Understand

24:36

this but now I'm like, oh wow

24:38

Lord One of the things he said

24:41

to me was Lana. There's a new normal coming and

24:44

he said to me Lana I'm gonna raise

24:46

up my people There'll be a new one

24:48

skin and there'll be a new expression of

24:50

my heart and all of these things But

24:52

he said I'm gonna raise my people up

24:54

in the ferocious focus of faith And

24:57

I think that you know right now

24:59

is something that is definitely resounding

25:02

on the heart of the Lord that You

25:05

know, we're in a completely new normal

25:07

right now And

25:09

what greater new era but I just

25:11

I feel that so strongly that what

25:13

is ahead That

25:16

the Lord has planned is going

25:18

to be glorious Yeah,

25:20

glorious when I sought the Lord this

25:22

in December for this year 2024 And

25:27

the Lord said I'm not gonna give you a

25:29

word for the year. I'm like, what's the word for the

25:31

year? You know It's near the

25:33

cat. What is the what is it the year of you

25:35

know, and the Lord said to me I'm not gonna give

25:38

you word for the year. I'm gonna give you word for

25:40

the era for an era So

25:42

I do feel like it is it's

25:45

the beginning. It's an it's an it's an opening of

25:47

a new era It's the womb of

25:49

the dawn, right? It's the womb of the dawn.

25:51

Yeah, and It's

25:53

a it's a birth a rebirth of a new

25:55

era and it is in some

25:57

ways getting back to the deeds We did it first

26:00

But then there's an opening of a new era. That's

26:02

you know a new song Isaiah

26:04

42 9 a new thing that's

26:06

beautiful Can you share in

26:08

the impactful prophetic encounter that you had that

26:11

left you? Elasti impression and

26:13

left the lasting impression on you. Yeah,

26:16

so a few years ago I

26:18

was in a very intense season

26:20

of inner

26:22

healing I was

26:24

going through just a really deep time

26:26

where the Lord was pruning things and

26:28

he was healing things in my heart

26:30

And I remember there was

26:32

a lot of battle Over

26:34

my identity so the enemy was just at

26:36

me with you You know you are this

26:38

you are that look at what you've done

26:40

with you passed all the things that the

26:42

enemy does and I remember Sitting in my

26:45

prayer room one day, and I just said

26:47

to the Lord God I need to hear

26:49

your voice like I know that one word

26:51

out of your mouth changes everything So

26:54

I need to hear your voice and

26:56

in that moment I go into this

26:58

vision and I see Jesus

27:01

and he had his hands tied and

27:03

he was leaning over a tree

27:07

stump and he had a crown of

27:09

thorns on and he and he was leaning like this

27:11

with both of his hands on the on the stump

27:14

and there was a man behind him with a

27:18

What is it like a whip and

27:20

and I'm standing there watching and

27:23

The enemy is accusing he's he's

27:25

saying things about me and every

27:27

time the enemy would say something

27:30

This he looked like a Roman centurion He

27:32

would whip the back of Jesus and Jesus

27:34

would look at me in the eyes and

27:36

he would declare the truth of who I

27:38

was Wow And then the

27:40

enemy would speak again And he'd say this

27:42

is who you are and then and then

27:45

the Roman centurion would like Whip

27:47

him again and Jesus would look at me with

27:49

the most love-filled eyes and he'd say to me that

27:51

this is the truth of who you are and And

27:55

That moment Chris changed my life

27:57

because I was a perfectionist. I

28:00

believe that I had to get

28:02

everything right for the Lord third

28:05

to love me. I didn't know

28:07

about the unconditional love of Jesus

28:09

and the love of the father

28:11

and I really, I had an

28:13

orphan spirit and in that moment

28:15

that that changed my life forever.

28:18

As in that moment, not only did I

28:20

say what Jesus is paid for us. But.

28:23

Also just that that love that

28:26

I can't even find. Words.

28:28

To describe, he wasn't looking

28:31

at me with condemnation or

28:33

displeasure. He. Was looking

28:35

at me with these eyes that

28:37

that to shell said like I

28:39

delight in you like you're beautiful

28:41

You are my life and. And

28:44

that, yeah, that was the one of the

28:46

marking moments of my life. Starts

28:48

Beautiful. Law.

28:51

Last question. We

28:53

we call this podcast Cultural

28:55

Towers because. We

28:58

wanted to get people to come

29:00

on and talk about how they

29:02

are actually affecting culture. You know

29:04

it's like a light of the

29:06

world. And I know I

29:08

was brought up in it the Jesus visit

29:10

word the d you know the model of

29:12

that time was come out be separate. And

29:15

I really feel like towards like get

29:17

into culture beloved you know into a

29:19

know if of subculture. it's we see

29:21

what's happening Fifty years as a church

29:23

leaving culture and now we're We're reemerging

29:26

cultures in a i'd I'd just love

29:28

to ask you what does it mean

29:30

to be a cultural callous from in

29:32

other words the gods called you and

29:34

the location you live in the the

29:36

call on your life in the family

29:38

you have. Yeah,

29:42

I love this and I was

29:44

actually thinking about this This wake

29:46

up in more of an intense

29:48

Norway and I was thinking you

29:51

know to be a cultural catalyst

29:53

Adelaide as someone who assessed and

29:55

full nice, carries the heart of

29:57

God. And I just

30:00

I really believe that in

30:02

order to shift. The. To

30:04

see coach has shifted and see

30:06

to see his kingdom extended and

30:09

his culture and the in our

30:11

extended that we have to be

30:13

ones that carries his heart and

30:15

I really believe that I'm that

30:17

the lord like you said like

30:19

were emerging now in the mood

30:22

is calling us to be engaged.

30:24

There's this call to be positioned

30:26

and to to walk encourage of

30:28

what the lord has called me

30:30

to do and mates and they

30:33

in the areas. Of jurisdiction that he's

30:35

given me and I can't sit on the

30:37

sideline and go well. I had somebody else

30:39

will do a drug like I am cold.

30:42

Survey. And I'm on call

30:44

to share the heart of God. I

30:46

am coal to share his life and

30:49

his love. And so whatever an area

30:51

of culture the Lord has cold you'd

30:53

say or made say, I believe that

30:56

we ought to be the ones that

30:58

are partnering with the Lord. And he's

31:00

hot. And. Then going into

31:02

those faces and and releasing the

31:05

heart of the Lord and the

31:07

strategy and the vision of the

31:09

lured into those places I have

31:11

a real passion to see the

31:14

heart of the Lord are manifested.

31:16

Am because so often especially like in

31:18

the Prophetic I've done that you know

31:21

you can process I and not have

31:23

the heart of the lowest, but we

31:25

really have to rather than sit here

31:27

and look at what's going on around

31:30

and all, Wow, that's really terrible actually.

31:32

Let's say intentional to sit with the

31:34

Lord and say lord, what's your heart

31:36

said besides. I was real

31:38

hard and things only paid so she so

31:41

much for being on cos it's great to

31:43

get to know you and so encouraging it

31:45

we actually met Why web and you are

31:47

here for six months and it's a small

31:50

small world. Of

31:52

the love your spirit for having me. You're

31:54

such a beautiful woman. Of

31:56

data so very much said

31:58

he said. You for watching

32:01

us. Oh hey wanna? how can

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people connect it with you lotta?

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it's fell a in a. vhwscr.com.

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As that. So you have a website.

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Yeah we have a website and all like

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everything that were doing it and find their

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an hour on one schools our that for

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said he lead everything's on that website. And.

32:23

Then also you have a Instagram page.

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I do a lot of or the miniseries.

32:29

Beautiful. So. Check her

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you could that people can participate

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32:40

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