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Chris Bellington. And today I have Daniel

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and Ellis. Okay, do the last name

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for me. Madri. I had it

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down to, I would have got it right. Come on,

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should have gone for it. I should have gone for

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it. And Daniel and

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Ellis lead our

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Moral Revolution ministry, and

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we're super excited. Thanks for being on. You've been

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on once before, right? We

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did one of your live Q&As. That's

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why. It was electric. It was

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a lot of fun. You really, you really showed

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them right. It was by popular demand that we're

1:26

having you back right there. Super electric. Oh, man.

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Well, we're honored to be here. We're,

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seriously, I'm honored to have you here, and honored

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to have you leading our

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Moral Revolution ministry. That's pretty

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exciting. So for you, you know, and

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I don't actually fully remember your story,

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although I did a long interview with

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you guys. So what

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is your story? Let's talk a little bit about moral

1:50

revolution, sexuality, like what's your

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story? What's your... What

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a loaded question. Why are you leading a sex

1:58

ministry? Yeah, we either have

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a lot of experience or you don't have any

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of that. Way to just wade into the deep

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end right out the gate. It's the first question

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that we put together for y'all. I

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love it. Well, actually, it's a really unique

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story, which is one of the reasons why

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it was so

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easy for us, if we can use that

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word, to pick up our

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lives in Austin, Texas and move here.

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It starts with Ellis. She was really the beginning

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of this. So, babe, why don't you tell the

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story? Yeah, so Daniel and I were- Please.

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Let me just set you up to tell the story. Exactly.

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Thank you, baby. Daniel and I last year,

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it was actually last summer, so not even

2:38

quite a year ago, we were on our

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way to a student conference in Birmingham, Alabama.

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And we were in the

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student ministry world. We run

2:48

a company that resources youth

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pastors and that's our lane. We

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were running in it, running hard. Well, you

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know nothing about sex then if you're

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in the youth pastor lane, for sure.

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That's a joke of course. We had written curriculum about it, but

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we were very much not in

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the more revolution lane at the time. And

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I was listening to a podcast

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and over a few months, I had

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really felt God stirring my heart towards

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some of the issues of sexuality that we're

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seeing come up in America. Daniel

3:21

and I have been married for not even two and

3:23

a half years yet. And

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we don't have kids, but

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we're starting to have conversations. Like when

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should we have kids and

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what would it look like to raise kids in today's

3:35

culture? And the more

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we're having these conversations, the

3:40

more unrest I feel

3:42

within myself about the current

3:44

state of sexuality in America

3:47

and in the world at large. You want me

3:49

to pick up the conversation? Please do. So

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we're in the car, right? We're driving to this conference. This is

3:53

how this story should have been told. Ellis

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rips off her headphones. All

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but slams them into the floor board. And she

4:03

said, I am not okay with the current state

4:06

of sexuality in America. This

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is the way you should have told that story. You're right.

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I'm like, you know, you do your swerve, you try

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to stay composed and I'm like, yeah, yeah. Me

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neither. Yeah, I'm not okay with that.

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You know, and so I'm like, I'm not

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okay with that. I'm like, I'm not

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okay with that. I'm like, I'm not

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okay with that. I'm not okay with

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that. You know, and so she's like,

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you know, what's happening with transgenderism and

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cultural homosexuality and the pornography epidemic.

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And she just goes on and

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on and on. And this is

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very out of character for her.

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She's not typically one to just, you

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know, go off on a rant. The anointing of

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the Lord fell upon you. That's what it felt

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like. And it burned the side of my leg,

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which is why I wear shoes. Yeah. You're

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on out. And

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so I said, babe, I was like, you

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sound pretty passionate about that. And she

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said, it's gone beyond

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passion. She's like, I feel like it's a

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burden from the Lord. And she's

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like, I'm supposed to use my

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voice in this next season to

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speak on issues of morality. And

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it needs to come from a

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biblical perspective, not a political one. Because

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she's very, she keeps up with

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politics a lot. And she was just

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like setting the record. And

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I said, because I realized she was serious.

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And you're in a new marriage. I

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put on my discernment hat. I was just gonna

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go. And I said, wow. I

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said, I have

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no wisdom for you other

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than you should pray about this. I

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said, you could go to TikTok and you could

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probably put together a pretty good rant. But

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I think you should pray

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about it and see what God says. And

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later that day, we get to the... We

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get checked in, we're on the side, we get

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into worship. And it feels like just a big

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reprieve and

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now shifting gears to me. I'm

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having this moment with God in

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worship, and I sit down,

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which, you know, very uncommon until now. Until now,

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I go to Bethel, now I have to sit

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down because my legs are tired. But. Bro,

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you need to get your legs. You

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need to get some exercise going there. Just

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joined a gym, okay? So we're working on it.

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There we go. You're like, why did you sign

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up? I was like, have you been to Bethel

6:33

worship service? This will be the before

6:35

shot, we'll bring you on in six months. And

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now the after shot. It's about the sculpted thighs you

6:40

have. Exactly. Continuing.

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So I sit down in worship and

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this thought comes to my mind. We're

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just, you know, we talked about, should we

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give the, you know, the unedited version of

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what actually happened that day? And she's like,

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you know what, I think we should. This

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is our story. I don't think, you haven't heard

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this part of it, Chris. I don't think so either.

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No, so I sat down in worship. I haven't

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heard this story told by him like this. The

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rip the head set off and his legs

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were burning. I

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sit down in worship and I said, Lord, I

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would love to meet Chris Vallatin. I

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said, he has meant so much

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to me in my spiritual walk. And

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I don't know, I don't

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know how I could just thank him enough for

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just the way he's shaped

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me through resources. Obviously we have

7:36

no relationship we've never met. And

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I said, God, I don't know how that would

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ever happen. We're not connected. For

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clarity, we're not at this conference. No,

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this isn't even a Bethel cut. Like Bethel

7:47

worship wasn't even there. Like Jen Johnson wasn't

7:49

even there. She's everywhere. Wow, yes. It

7:52

was a thought. But I just think

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that, you know, it's almost

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like people think that God having

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boundaries is for control.

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And the reality is God puts boundaries

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in place to protect. Like

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there are boundaries at our house. You

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know, our house has walls. It has

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a roof. It has, you know what

8:14

I mean? I've never laid

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in bed at night and thought, man,

8:18

I wish these walls weren't here. Really

8:21

holding me back from living my best life. Right,

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like these walls keep people,

8:25

keep things that are inside

8:27

protected and safe. And

8:30

it keeps dangers that are lurking outside.

8:32

It keeps those out. And

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yet we would be looking at the

8:36

boundaries that God has and say, you're

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trying to control, you're trying to, you

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know, and I just think, man, what

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culture needs is an accurate view of

8:45

how and why created sex

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and how great it is when it's

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within his design. I think culture

8:51

has also reduced sex down

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to pleasure. And

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if sex is strictly pleasure, then go

8:58

get more of it. Exercise

9:01

has an element of

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pleasure. Eating has an

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element of pleasure. Sex

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obviously has an element of pleasure.

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Okay, well, you know, eating and

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exercise are great within their proper

9:14

place, you know, and so

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is sex. But if it's just

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for pleasure, then it begins to break

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down. And so,

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because souls are involved. And so you

9:25

can look at the pleasurable side of

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sex, but then you start to think

9:29

about all of the people whose hearts

9:31

have literally been ripped in half. And

9:34

those who have been on the brink

9:36

of suicide because the one they gave

9:38

themselves to left them because they were

9:40

no longer interested. And I think if

9:43

culture understood the bonding power and the

9:45

unity side of, and the two becoming

9:47

one, I think they would

9:49

be a lot more careful approaching,

9:51

you know, sex with another person, largely

9:54

even people who they barely know.

9:56

Totally. It's interesting, you know, there's

9:58

a story of one a day. David's sons, his

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name is... Amen. Yeah, and

10:04

he rapes Tamar, his

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sister, and it says that

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his passion for her was so, like

10:12

he was so passionate, he loved her so much. He

10:14

was sick over it. He was sick over it. Then

10:17

he sleeps with her in a rape, and

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literally right after the act of sex,

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he can't stand her, and literally

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his hatred for her was as

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great as his passion for her.

10:31

And he literally throws her out of the house.

10:34

And it's, you know, I've read that story

10:36

so many times, and then her

10:40

brother Absalon tries to save the day and

10:42

makes it worse, and it's a

10:44

perpetual case of what happens through immorality

10:48

and rape. But it's

10:51

the conquering, sometimes

10:53

the passion for

10:55

conquering a woman. There's

10:58

something about our culture in

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which it's almost like

11:03

winning a game. It's almost

11:05

like, you know, and then on

11:08

the woman's side, Tamar is such

11:10

a prophetic metaphor of

11:12

where culture is like, I'm going

11:14

to sleep with this man, and I'm gonna intentionally

11:16

get pregnant, which is a very

11:18

common story, like way more common than

11:20

people might think. And

11:22

then he'll bond with me. And

11:25

he's in it for a totally different

11:27

reason. Right. Like he's

11:30

climbing a mountain, he's winning a

11:32

fight, he's conquering

11:35

a virgin, and he

11:37

doesn't bond. And

11:41

then part of what you were talking about, we have

11:43

a whole broken culture over this, this

11:46

Ammon, Tamar is a big

11:48

part of our broken culture. And then we

11:50

have the Absalons who are coming in, the

11:53

end of that story, of course, is he kills

11:56

his brother Ammon because his father

11:58

David will not bring justice. to any

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of the situation. And this is our culture.

12:02

Like, instead of bringing justice,

12:04

instead of bringing protection like David should

12:06

have brought to Tamar

12:09

and correction to Ammon, he

12:12

relegates himself to passiveness

12:15

and it creates a culture of violence

12:17

through Absalon, whose

12:21

name means my God is peace. And

12:23

like this dynamic is actually at work in

12:26

our culture. All of those four

12:28

dynamics are at work in our culture. And

12:31

it's actually demonic. And Absalon

12:33

actually ends up dying. David,

12:35

he kills Ammon. David, as

12:38

men, ended up killing Absalon. And

12:43

then, you know, in the midst of all that, Absalon,

12:49

when his sister comes to live with

12:51

him and he has another daughter, his

12:54

wife gives birth to a daughter,

12:56

and he names her Tamar. And

12:58

the injustice is growing. It's gaining

13:00

cycle. It's getting

13:02

stronger. And injustice just gave

13:04

birth to more injustice. And the

13:07

outside of that is

13:09

that you've got passive people who do nothing,

13:11

who should be kings, who should do something.

13:14

You've got a person who's trying to bring justice,

13:16

but doesn't know how to, which is, you know,

13:18

you've got a whole community of

13:20

people who aren't moral, who

13:23

are being shamed and

13:25

condemned through the Absalon. Like,

13:31

this deserves condemnation. It's like,

13:34

and there's no, and in all

13:37

of that, there's no healthy way

13:39

to bring Tamar back to health

13:42

and to bring correction to

13:44

the Ammons of the world. Like, you look at

13:47

that story and you think, well, Tamar, I mean, not

13:49

Tamar, Ammon could have made a

13:51

different decision. It's like, yes, he should have

13:53

never done that to begin with. Never. But

13:55

if there was a courageous father who

13:58

wasn't afraid to... to bring

14:00

justice the moment they saw something

14:02

out of line, then

14:05

this wouldn't have spiraled so

14:07

deeply. Totally. I also

14:09

wanna make the observation that

14:12

as Ammon is about to rape her,

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she literally says, do not do

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this. Don't you know that if

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you ask your father, he won't withhold

14:21

me from you. And

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I think that that right

14:26

there, the thing where

14:28

good fathers know how to give good gifts, every

14:30

good and perfect thing comes from the Lord. He

14:33

who finds a wife finds a good thing. She

14:36

literally gave him the key

14:38

to avoid his own murder,

14:41

her rape, David's passivity and

14:43

Absalom's, Justice. Exactly.

14:46

And yet Ammon. All because he

14:48

was unwilling to go to his father.

14:51

And so when it comes to- But he didn't

14:53

have a right view of his father. Obviously

14:56

he didn't believe that his father had good

14:58

gifts to give him. Yeah, she's like, my

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father would allow you to marry me. Why

15:05

would you steal something that

15:07

you could actually be given for

15:09

free? Right. And the whole thing,

15:11

I mean, this isn't the

15:13

only dynamic happening in culture. I've never

15:15

actually taught on this publicly, but

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these four dimensions are

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at work in our culture. Truly. The

15:24

people trying to bring justice, but they

15:27

end up creating a worse culture. Chaos.

15:29

Chaos. You

15:32

got the person giving birth to

15:34

another Tamar, naming

15:36

them after the injustice. So it's injustice giving

15:38

birth to injustice. You get Ammon who doesn't

15:41

control his sex

15:43

drive and doesn't just

15:47

does whatever he feels. He's like an alley cat. He

15:49

just does whatever. Then he doesn't want anything to do

15:51

with her afterwards, which I wish every

15:54

daughter could hear this conversation. I

15:56

wish every father could have

15:58

a conversation with his daughter. because men

16:01

and women do not think alike. I

16:03

wish people could get

16:05

like the idea that you

16:07

can have two mothers or two fathers, that

16:09

fathers and mothers are interchangeable. This is part

16:11

of the culture right now. Totally. This is

16:13

part of the gay

16:16

movement. You can have two fathers,

16:18

it is as ridiculous as the

16:21

transgender male running and

16:23

competing with females and

16:26

fathers and mothers standing by going, I don't see

16:28

anything happening. Do you see anything happening? I don't

16:30

see anything happening. And I'm like,

16:32

this is ridiculous. It's like, these are not

16:34

interchangeable roles. And

16:37

this is all the dysfunction of

16:40

fathers who have, and I'm not talking about the

16:42

role of males right now, I'm talking about the

16:44

role of fathers. Can we

16:46

say fathers and mothers? I have not stepped

16:48

in and said, whoa, whoa, wait, this is

16:50

dysfunctional. Hey, whoa, this

16:52

is not the way it's

16:55

supposed to be. So

16:57

this is the mission of moral revolution. This is

17:00

it right here. It's no small mission. No

17:02

small mission. Absolutely not. It's gonna

17:04

be two or three years before we actually transform the world.

17:06

Come on. We've got a couple of years to go. But

17:08

we're working on it every day. We're working on it every

17:10

day. Good, we thought you were gonna give us six months.

17:14

No, no, that's, what

17:16

are the most common questions and issues that

17:18

come up with moral revolution? Gosh,

17:20

there's tons of them, right? There are so many. I

17:23

will say this, we were discussing this

17:25

earlier. We recently did a podcast series

17:27

that we called Burning Questions because

17:30

we just put it out to

17:32

our audience. What are your most

17:34

burning questions about sex, dating, boundaries,

17:36

sexuality? And I mean,

17:39

masturbation is like the number one thing

17:41

that people ask questions about. Yeah, especially

17:44

among Christians, right? Especially among Christians.

17:46

Pornography is huge. People

17:48

wanna know what's permissible before marriage,

17:50

in marriage, after they've been divorced.

17:52

Like at any point they wanna

17:54

know what can we do and when.

17:58

Is there anything we can still do to get to heaven? And

18:01

I will say this, I really think that

18:03

almost every question we got boils

18:05

down to the phrase, how far is too

18:08

far? Almost everybody

18:10

wants to know in various seasons of life,

18:12

whether I've got a partner, whether I don't,

18:14

how far is too far? And

18:16

people have the most creative scenarios that

18:18

they find themselves in. I

18:21

mean, she does, you know, Ellis

18:23

handles our social media and she

18:25

will read to me messages where

18:27

people are like, okay, so picture

18:29

this and lay out a

18:31

scenario and they're asking us for wisdom.

18:33

And I'm like, hold on, let me

18:35

go to the mountain top. I don't

18:37

know what to tell this person because

18:39

they've got themselves in a whole situation.

18:42

Yeah. A pickle if you will. But

18:44

one of the things that we have noticed is

18:47

a lot of it does come down

18:49

to just boundaries, whether it's boundaries with

18:51

myself, boundaries with other people, boundaries within

18:53

a relationship before, after, during, you know,

18:56

and all this stuff. And

18:58

I think part of the part of the fallacy

19:00

of that is that once

19:02

again, we're reducing a relationship with God

19:04

and intimacy with Him and His word

19:07

for a set of rules. And this

19:09

is the nature of man. This is

19:11

what we do. Yeah. Give

19:13

me the rules. Let me know the play and I'll

19:16

run. I just want it. Yeah. I

19:18

just want to follow the rules. I just want to check the box and say that

19:20

I did. I

19:22

mean, the entire point of the gospel is that we

19:24

couldn't check the box. Like Jesus had

19:27

to come because they

19:29

tried to check the box method. The entire

19:31

whole testament did not work. Just

19:33

sacrifice these turtle doves for my lack

19:36

of box checking today. Now that don't,

19:38

you know, don't hear what we're not saying.

19:40

There's absolutely a standard, but God's

19:42

grace empowers us to live the

19:44

standard that He's called us to.

19:47

And so, you know, when it comes down to that,

19:49

when it boils down to that question, how far is

19:51

too far? Mo Isom Aiken says it says

19:54

it so well. She's like, it's the wrong question. You

19:56

should be asking how close can

19:58

I possibly get? to God.

20:01

How close can, if that's the

20:03

focus, then everything else, it

20:05

falls into place. It really does. And

20:09

I might misquote this,

20:11

but Psalm 119 says, how

20:13

can a young man keep

20:15

his way pure? And it's by...

20:19

Living according to the word. By living according, it's

20:21

the second part. I was like, man, the

20:23

question, got it. Learning a question. He would

20:25

go for it now. And

20:28

the answer to that was what? Yeah,

20:30

it's literally by living according to the

20:33

word. Okay. Well, whenever

20:35

we develop that rich relationship with

20:37

God, where his word is more

20:41

than just a bunch of letters or

20:43

theology studies or anything like that, but

20:46

it becomes a life-giving

20:49

guide to our soul

20:51

and nourishment to our spirit, then

20:54

all of a sudden, purity becomes a

20:56

little more attainable. Yeah. You know what

20:58

I mean? It's difficult. You're

21:00

saved, you're unsaved, wherever you come from,

21:03

purity is very difficult, but it is

21:05

not unobtainable. How do we do it?

21:08

Staying close to the word, living according to

21:10

his word. Yeah. It's really good.

21:12

What are some of the most impactful

21:14

discussions you've had? It's

21:16

kind of probably around the same, almost

21:19

the same question, but... Yeah.

21:21

I had this guy named Jay Valatin on the... Oh, no.

21:24

Yeah, he crushed it. Yeah, he's

21:26

a crusher right there. He talked

21:28

about anxiety in relationships. I

21:31

feel like a lot of the reason

21:33

why people don't get into a relationship

21:35

is because they feel anxious for

21:38

a number of reasons. In fact,

21:40

he shared the story with him

21:43

and Lauren, where Lauren was

21:45

like, I don't

21:47

know how I'm feeling right now. I

21:49

like you. This is good. This is...

21:51

But I don't know. And obviously, in

21:53

a way, he really diffused it and

21:58

tore back the veil and said, okay, well, This

22:00

is exactly what it is. And you just

22:02

need to consider what you're getting into and

22:05

if that's what you want. And I think

22:07

that for so- This is their dating, moving

22:10

towards marriage story with the man

22:12

who's been divorced and has three little kids. That

22:15

makes things complicated. Exactly. That can bring

22:17

anxiety to her in the dating process.

22:19

That can bring anxiety to him in

22:21

the dating process. There could be the

22:23

anxiety of I've never dated and now

22:25

I'm older. There could be the anxiety

22:27

of I've dated poorly and now it's

22:29

time to get married. There's so many

22:32

anxieties that can creep into a

22:34

conversation. So I think even interviewing

22:36

him, I walked away and I

22:38

was like, I'm feeling better

22:40

about my marriage. I'm feeling great, but

22:42

I'm feeling better. And so I feel

22:44

like that's been one of the barriers

22:46

to marriage that we see in singles.

22:49

And I know that you talk about

22:51

that a lot where you're like, look

22:53

around the room. Look at these single

22:55

people. You can't come into a

22:57

room like this with all these beautiful single

22:59

people and not get a date. Let's

23:02

just start asking. Oh yeah, they've done

23:04

the impossible though. Let me just say

23:06

this. They've taken the,

23:08

nothing's impossible with God for a whole

23:10

nother level. Truly a house of miracles.

23:13

How did you navigate this and still be

23:15

single? The school ministry like full of beautiful

23:18

women and guys like, well, I've been

23:20

able to find anybody. Bro,

23:23

let's come over here. Let me put my hand on

23:25

your eyes and open your eyes. Yeah. Exactly.

23:28

Exactly. We like to

23:30

ask this question kind of

23:32

is our final finale here. As leaders

23:34

moral revolution, how do you

23:36

find your role as cultural catalyst? And what does it

23:38

mean to be a cultural catalyst in this context? You

23:42

know, Because it's called cultural

23:44

catalyst. Imagine that. Yeah. I'm

23:47

familiar. I think a catalyst in and of

23:49

itself is something that causes an action to happen.

23:54

And I can't think culturally

23:57

of anything that inspires more action than

23:59

courage. Courage is

24:01

contagious. And it's

24:04

funny, the conversations we've been having on the

24:06

podcast, there's clips that go out on social

24:08

media and we're out here talking about everything

24:10

you can imagine and we're

24:12

relatively new to the job. So we're still getting

24:15

texts from friends who are like, I'm so glad

24:17

that's you having that conversation. It's not me.

24:21

And so we're getting texts like that. But

24:23

I think at the end of the day,

24:25

courage is contagious. And we came

24:28

here because God told us to basically,

24:32

he said, this is what I'm doing with your

24:34

life in this season. And then he opened the

24:36

door accordingly. And we walked through it because that's

24:39

what the Lord asked of us. And

24:41

so my hope is that people

24:43

would hear the conversations that we

24:45

are willing to have in a

24:47

studio, on a

24:49

microphone, on social media, whenever you're seeing

24:51

this clip and go, if they can

24:53

stand for what God says

24:56

is right and good and pure

24:58

and holy, then I can stand for

25:00

that in my life too. I can stand for

25:02

that in my relationships. I can live that way

25:04

in my marriage. I can raise my kids to

25:06

know what God's plan is for

25:10

sex and sexuality. And so I think

25:13

courage would be the number one

25:15

catalyst in this conversation. But it's

25:17

going to take people to stand

25:20

up and say, like you

25:22

said, David was passive in the story

25:24

of Tamar and Ammon. It's going

25:26

to take some people to say, I refuse to

25:28

be passive. I will speak out on issues like

25:30

this. She's got me hype right now. I'm

25:33

about to just, let's go. If

25:35

there was a table in front of you, you'd flip it. Flip it

25:37

over, flip the table over. Well,

25:40

thank you for being here, guests on

25:42

the show. And also we

25:44

can get in touch with you through

25:47

morerevolution.com, right? Correct. That's correct. And then

25:49

we have, we're on Instagram. What

25:51

else are we on? We're on Instagram.

25:53

We're on YouTube. We're doing a ton on

25:55

YouTube. And we

25:57

are on X and. we're

26:00

working on the TikTok. Working on TikTok. I

26:03

don't know, TikTok's gonna still be here. You

26:06

know, that's what we're debating every day. This

26:08

is a sinking ship. Thank

26:11

you so much for being on and thank you so much

26:13

for listening. Just check out

26:15

all the resources. If you have children,

26:17

we've got great stuff for kids. If

26:19

you're married, we've got great stuff for

26:21

marriages. Teaching your kids

26:24

about sexuality, people will ask me about that all

26:26

the time. All kinds of resources

26:28

for kids, for young people, for teenagers,

26:31

for 20-year-olds,

26:34

dating stuff, how

26:36

to date well, and what to do

26:38

if I've fallen, how

26:41

can the Lord restore my virginity? What you

26:43

can, all of this is part of moral

26:46

revolution. And by the way, we have a

26:48

movement inside of moral revolution called Change, which

26:50

is led by two people who

26:53

were formerly homosexuals. And they're

26:55

doing a wonderful job. There's just really hundreds

26:57

and hundreds and hundreds of

26:59

people, thousands actually, who are

27:01

coming out of that movement

27:03

and are finding the restoration

27:05

of their purity, the restoration of

27:07

their relationships, even restoration of their

27:09

marriages. And so I just wanna

27:12

encourage you, like this is

27:14

a new day. The

27:17

day is dawning and there is just

27:19

tons of resources to help

27:21

you with whatever situation that you're in. God

27:23

bless you. See you next week. Thank

27:27

you so much for listening to my podcast. To

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27:37

bless you.