0:05

Coming up, I'm going to share a simple

0:07

hack that will always allow you to be

0:09

leveling up in your professional skills. And then

0:12

we're going to take on activism in the

0:14

office today and what bosses are doing. Let's

0:21

go. Helping

0:24

you win at work because you are a

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pro. I'm Ken. I'm

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from Coleman show. All right. Let's

0:31

simplify continual growth because if

0:34

you're a serious professional and I assume that

0:36

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0:40

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0:42

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0:46

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0:49

me simplify growth for you and

0:52

successful people, really

0:55

successful people have either learned this

0:58

or they did it intuitively or

1:01

instinctively. But I can tell you

1:03

as a guy who pays attention to this world, who

1:05

gets young people coming and asking him advice all

1:07

the time, I'm still blown

1:10

away on how

1:12

many people don't get this simple hack to

1:14

just leveling up and constantly growing. And here

1:16

it is. You

1:19

ready? Make your meals count.

1:21

Make your coffees count. In

1:24

other words, you shouldn't be having a

1:26

meal alone. You shouldn't be

1:28

drinking coffee alone. Hey,

1:30

if you're like me, you shouldn't have a cigar alone. You

1:33

should always be maximizing

1:36

that time to

1:38

be with people that

1:40

are better than you. There

1:43

it is. It's that simple.

1:48

It's that simple. I could

1:50

be a hardliner on

1:52

this and say, if you're

1:54

a young professional, If

1:56

you're going out to lunch five times a week. I'd.

2:00

Be little irritated as you if for the

2:02

five aren't with somebody who's higher up the

2:05

ladder in life than you. Hear

2:10

it. The.

2:12

Idea of breaking bread with someone.

2:16

And. Asking questions,

2:19

To learn. To. Grow.

2:21

Is so fundamental to your

2:24

success. That. If you

2:26

are doing it, I'm telling you

2:28

I think you're holding herself back.

2:31

I'm brutally do. Melissa's.

2:34

Talk about this. What happens when

2:36

I go have coffee with somebody?

2:39

Or I go have lunch with

2:41

somebody. Or I go have dinner

2:43

with somebody who I look up

2:45

to or who is a acquaintance.

2:47

Ah, or of. A

2:49

brand new relationship that's in

2:52

my profession and I've got

2:54

this opportunity to sit across

2:56

from them. As a

2:58

guy who is built his career

3:00

on interviewing people and has been

3:02

blessed to interview up some of

3:04

the biggest days or successful people

3:06

moral I can tell you that

3:08

it is no different than me

3:10

sitting across. From. Someone who

3:13

is well known and very successful.

3:15

Me interviewing them for you. But.

3:19

Now when it's me, one on one and

3:22

a way you want, I'll always somebody who's

3:24

successful. You are essentially

3:26

getting an opportunity to do your own

3:29

private podcast. And

3:32

here's what happens over a meal or

3:35

over coffee. That.

3:37

Same person. If

3:40

you had not met them in this environment

3:42

does casual environment of a meal or coffee

3:44

or a cocktail. They're.

3:47

Going to give you a much better audience. They're.

3:50

Going to be more tuned in and connected to

3:52

you. They are. Ah,

3:55

they're going to let their defenses l little bit

3:57

when you get interested in nips. Let.

3:59

Me: remind. you. If you haven't

4:01

realized this about yourself in a while, my

4:05

favorite topic, your favorite

4:07

topic, everybody's favorite topic

4:10

is themselves. This

4:13

is true. Now, I'm

4:15

not beating up on me or all of us and saying

4:17

that we're a bunch of vain megalomaniacs.

4:21

No. What I'm saying is that

4:23

when someone is interested in us,

4:26

it feels good. If

4:28

you're sitting across from this very successful person and

4:31

you become interested in their journey,

4:33

you become interested in their expertise,

4:35

you become interested in their opinion,

4:37

you become interested in their insight

4:39

and wisdom in one of your

4:42

situations. Let me tell you what

4:44

happens. Relationship is

4:46

built. A true connection happens.

4:49

When you connect two wires, right,

4:53

if you're putting a light up or a ceiling fan,

4:55

you have to connect all those wires and then we

4:57

get power. That's the

4:59

connectivity that's happening here. And

5:02

so, with that being our setup,

5:04

let me tell you the problem that

5:06

I hear from a lot of people. Well, I can't catch

5:08

a break. There's

5:10

no opportunities, Ken. I'm

5:13

applying. I

5:15

just can't break through.

5:19

Here's another one I hear a lot. Ken,

5:22

I appreciate your book, The Proximity Principle, but I

5:25

just don't know enough

5:27

people. The

5:29

answer is to that, you

5:32

do know enough people, but

5:35

you should know more people. In

5:38

fact, that's the

5:40

unintended theme of my lesson here to start the

5:42

show today. That's it. I didn't even plan to

5:45

say that, but I should have planned to say

5:47

that. For those of you who

5:49

don't think you know enough people, let me just say

5:51

this again. You already know

5:53

enough people to get opportunities in your life,

5:55

but you should know more people. By

5:58

the way, that goes for The end of the show. Me as

6:00

well. I'm eaten what I'm cooking today.

6:03

I shit I can always do more

6:05

people. Always. And

6:08

by the way, I am very intentional to do

6:10

this stuff. But to time

6:12

bestselling author. I

6:15

moan show national so burglar bill

6:17

on until you get to brag.

6:19

I'm telling you that I still

6:21

need to know more people. And.

6:25

I do. I

6:28

will tell you that on an average months. I

6:30

a meeting. Between.

6:33

Five to ten new people and I have

6:35

a very busy schedule. And

6:40

on an average month their months raw meat more

6:42

than that. I just

6:44

recently joined a cigar clubs for crying

6:46

out loud. Did you know this nascent.

6:49

Real. Of this is called Holy Smokes. This

6:53

screwing sooner national group. Ah,

6:56

and it's it's it's a bunch of cursing guys

6:58

in business guys and we just all enjoy. A.

7:01

Cigar. They are chapters

7:03

all around the world. My buddy

7:05

K here mean is the founder of it. I

7:07

just discovered it's called Holy Smokes. Guy.

7:10

Advised to be I said tell me about the guys.

7:13

Just good deeds get together on Friday

7:15

afternoon. I

7:17

said i'm is. I

7:20

am meeting. Now. Are you know

7:22

their I can't go every Friday? But.

7:24

I'd say I'll make and to Friday's out

7:26

of a mother I try to and when

7:28

I go to that just as one example

7:31

I am meeting. Sometimes

7:33

as many as ten guys I've never

7:36

met before. And I

7:38

don't mean just hi. My name's Ken and

7:40

he's like hi, I'm Fred, know like. We.

7:43

Are having a cigar together. And

7:46

we're having conversation. We're learning about each

7:48

other. And. As I learn

7:50

about these guys, they tell me what they do.

7:52

These are all successful guys by the way. See.

7:55

Point. These. Are losers.

8:00

Okay. But I'm

8:02

in, I got invited to hang out with

8:04

winners and it just happens to be

8:06

over cigars. Remove that away

8:08

from the equation. I'm

8:10

not hanging out with duds who just

8:12

like to smoke. I'm hanging out with

8:14

studs who like to smoke. Big

8:17

difference. Big

8:20

difference. This

8:22

is where opportunities come, folks, over conversation.

8:25

So real quick, wrap this up. You

8:30

need to be intentional to constantly

8:32

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8:34

is this, to learn about them

8:37

and to learn from them. That's

8:40

it. That's it. I

8:42

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8:45

going to find a way to learn from

8:47

you. Now this does two

8:49

things. Okay. First of all, it

8:52

makes you interesting because you're interested in them

8:54

and because you're interested in them first, they

8:57

turn the tables on you and they get

8:59

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9:01

you and then maybe they learn from you.

9:03

Uh-oh, what just happened? A connection. And here's

9:05

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9:08

you need opportunities in life, you

9:11

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9:13

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9:15

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9:17

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9:20

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9:22

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9:24

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9:27

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9:31

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9:33

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9:35

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9:37

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9:41

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9:43

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9:45

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9:47

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9:49

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10:01

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10:07

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10:11

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my attempt to keep you folks updated. Ah

14:30

with trends in the world. Works as you know what

14:32

to do. Ah, this is from

14:34

a Wall Street Journal. And the

14:36

headline reads company bosses draw red line

14:38

on office activists and I say bravo.

14:41

I. Want to stand up and clap? But.

14:44

It'll get me out of the of the video

14:46

frame. and Kate A, Nathan the director will be

14:48

very upset at me but I really truly want

14:50

to stand up and just slow clap. Ought

14:53

to be obnoxious to make a point.

14:56

Or I've been talking about this for the last

14:58

several years. And.

15:00

And now we're starting to see some business

15:02

leaders go spine. But. Only

15:05

not a principal unfortunately, but

15:07

they are growing a spine.

15:10

Of because a sucker for business allow this

15:12

off his activism stuff to happen. Or.

15:15

They don't want the desert. Which.

15:18

Is causing disruption. And

15:21

so here we are, the pendulum. As.

15:24

It does. Swings.

15:26

In multiple areas. Couple.

15:28

Years ago. Sure, you wanted to set

15:30

you on a protest at the office.

15:33

We have spineless leaders that are scared

15:35

of upsetting a few loud and cranky

15:37

employees, so they allow that Now. We.

15:40

Have some big time companies hello. Google

15:42

is leading the charge. Right

15:46

here in the article. google.

15:49

Decided to fire twenty eight workers.

15:53

Twenty Eight. That

15:55

were involved in sit in protests.

15:58

as a result of googles cloud computing

16:00

contract with the Israeli government. So

16:05

here you go. It's

16:07

not a bigger issue in the news right

16:10

now other than the presidential race

16:13

and all the things going on with Trump and Biden.

16:16

Outside of that, the Middle East is the big story

16:18

in the news. And

16:20

we're seeing college campuses erupt. This

16:25

is a hot-button issue. Obviously,

16:27

we know this. But

16:31

Google realizes, hey listen, we're

16:34

a business. And

16:39

who knows how many countries Google does

16:41

cloud services for? But

16:43

you've got 28 employees

16:48

that don't like the government of Israel.

16:50

By the way, that's their prerogative. I'm

16:53

not getting into the political statements

16:56

and I'm not getting into their views. But

16:58

simply put, they don't like it that

17:01

one of Google's clients is

17:04

a country that they disagree with. So what do

17:06

they do? Well, they decide to do

17:08

a sit-in and there's a lot of protests. And

17:10

so they were immediately fired. Immediately.

17:17

And here's where we stand, by the way, legally on this.

17:21

Workers in the private sector at

17:25

this point are not protected

17:27

by the First Amendment guarantees a free

17:29

speech. And

17:31

there's a lot of uncertainty as

17:34

to what is legally allowed for

17:38

us Americans in the workplace. It's

17:41

just not really clear. And so right now, legally,

17:44

if I decide to walk in

17:46

here to Ramsey Solutions in the lobby and

17:49

I get 10 of our employees to

17:51

make a big ruckus and

17:53

we got poster board and we're shouting and

17:55

acting crazy and disrupting our guests that are

17:57

sitting in the lobby watching me right now.

18:01

This is a place of business. Then

18:06

Dave Ramsey has every right

18:08

legally to fire

18:10

my tail immediately

18:12

and escort me out the

18:15

building. Why? This is not a place of

18:17

protest. This is a place of business.

18:19

And so Google, good on them, they

18:22

made a statement. Here's an actual statement

18:24

from the Google CEO. He said, we

18:27

need to be more focused in

18:29

how we work, collaborate, discuss, and

18:31

even disagree. I say bravo. Google's

18:34

vice president of global security said

18:37

that the activists, the employees, the

18:39

28 who protested and caused a

18:41

ruckus at Google headquarters. This

18:43

is his statement. I quote, they

18:45

made co-workers feel threatened. You

18:49

think? You

18:51

can disagree with Israel or

18:54

any other country. But

18:57

when in America did it become okay

19:00

to say violent things and threaten

19:02

people of

19:05

a different race in

19:07

the workplace, your co-workers, like so

19:11

all of a sudden now it's okay for a

19:13

certain group of people. I say no,

19:15

it isn't. Google said

19:17

it isn't either. You're fired. Clean your desk

19:19

out. Good for them. Corporate

19:26

leaders are becoming concerned about the public

19:28

backlash, especially boards of directors. So you

19:30

want to know why the pendulum is

19:33

swung? Because the

19:35

corporate leaders are going, our board

19:37

of directors, people have ultimate authority

19:39

to fire us. People who allow

19:41

me to make millions and millions

19:44

and millions of dollars

19:46

don't like it when I allow

19:48

my snowflake woke offended

19:51

employees to

19:54

protest in the office. So

19:57

again, While I'm applauding this

19:59

shift, It's not really

20:01

principle, it's about getting paid.

20:03

But I say good. I

20:06

don't care how we get their. This

20:09

as long as we get their. google.

20:16

Ceo another quote. This

20:18

is a business A not a place to act

20:21

and away the disrupt coworkers or makes them feel

20:23

unsafe to attend to. Use the company as a

20:25

personal platforms. This is too important a moment. As

20:28

a company for us to be distracted.

20:30

Here's what I say. leaders. It's

20:33

time for you to grow spine. Or.

20:36

You're gonna lose your job. And

20:38

you may lose your company. The.

20:41

Other day customers want the

20:43

product or the service you

20:45

provide. They don't want your

20:48

political opinion. They

20:50

don't want to hear your

20:52

employees political opinion. I'll

20:55

go back to Target and Bud

20:57

Light. Now.

21:00

They're fine and the critics will say

21:02

in the comments older phone or your.

21:06

But as their see your leadership if they had a

21:08

dual over again if they would do it I say

21:10

I doubt they would. There

21:12

in the business of making money through a product

21:15

or service. People.

21:17

Have political outlets all day long. They can

21:19

watch and been be involved in. The

21:22

customer wants the product or the service

21:25

and I think we're gonna see a

21:27

shift back to. Listen.

21:30

We're. Just google. We've

21:35

already seen Bud Light shift back to just

21:37

being cheap and bad. That's

21:41

their game. They

21:43

just said okay, nevermind are going to

21:46

stick to making cheap bad beer. And.

21:50

Their recovery. So.

21:56

To you. Who are watching this

21:58

on you tube and this this is gonna who? Those

22:00

were these things. Go. If

22:03

you want to be involved politically, No.

22:05

One supports at more than me.

22:07

I'm as political as they come

22:10

iowa of watch that paying attention

22:12

to it. I used to work

22:14

in it. But.

22:20

There's a time and place for

22:22

this. You. Want to be active?

22:25

Go. Protests in the public square.

22:28

And then what com what what may come

22:30

comes and new. Just that's that's your deal.

22:32

Go go protest all you want to. I'm

22:34

for as much peaceful protests as you want.

22:37

I'm not for people stopping traffic on not

22:39

for people. Threatening. Others

22:41

in public Ah. So

22:44

look up Gandhi. Go

22:46

find a good model. Their lot

22:48

of peaceful protesters have. You

22:51

know, Go. Go go figure out what were

22:53

you can do and how you do it. Stop doing

22:55

the work place. You should be fired. It's

22:58

a place of work. Not. A

23:00

place of politics. Let's get politics

23:02

out of the office. Let's get

23:04

politics. Away from our customer

23:06

and just do what we're supposed to

23:08

do. I think it's gonna be better

23:10

for everybody. So Fiona work a

23:12

joint. All these woke students that are to

23:14

stream and all day long about what offends

23:16

them all. By the way they want us

23:18

to. the loan forgiveness is. America.

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so much power you people the power of

23:47

the people on try to be a man

23:49

of the people and so i would ask

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24:02

not interested in the one-star reviews. Don't

24:05

want those. Don't

24:08

really care and for

24:10

those of you like to send nasty comments I want to set

24:12

you free so that you can pester

24:14

somebody else. I don't read the comments

24:17

and my team will tell you that. I don't read the

24:19

good comments because they're not good for my head

24:21

and I don't read the bad comments because they're not good for my

24:24

heart. So I

24:26

live in a comment free zone

24:28

and it's wonderful because I

24:30

just sit here and I think that you know everybody likes

24:32

what I'm saying and it's really

24:34

freeing. It's a thank you ma'am. I'm getting thumbs up

24:37

from a lady in the lobby. I will

24:39

pay you after the show ma'am. Thank you

24:41

very much. Alright let's get to the business

24:43

of coaching some people. That's what I really really love

24:45

to do. Let's go to Alex who's joining us in

24:48

Dallas, Texas. Alex you're on the Ken Coleman show. Hey

24:51

Ken how's it going? I am living the dream. What are

24:53

you doing? Excellent. Thank you for

24:55

taking my call. I appreciate it. Yeah sure. What's up?

24:58

Yeah I saw. I'll start with my

25:00

question maybe some background after. I guess

25:04

my question is should I

25:06

follow my passion of dentistry

25:08

even with the significant sacrifice that it'll

25:11

take or should I

25:13

look to an alternate route that might meet

25:16

some of those passions that I find in

25:18

dentistry. Wow. So

25:21

I like the way you set

25:23

this up. So let's reverse this.

25:25

Tell me about the alternate route

25:27

that satisfies

25:30

the passion of doing dental work

25:33

and describe it to me briefly. How much

25:35

is it gonna cost and how long will it take after

25:38

you tell me what it is? Okay

25:40

that's where I'm struggling too because I

25:42

am kind of leaning I feel like

25:45

a little bit away from dentistry just

25:47

because of the amount of sacrifice. Yeah.

25:49

I haven't quite found the part where

25:51

I need your help of Figuring

25:54

out the opposite. So We haven't found

25:56

the alternative. Okay. Yeah Exactly.. Okay Let's

25:58

pivot back. In

26:01

a by the i'm not asking this in

26:03

with cynicism. I've said all to sell miss

26:05

Way but. I'm fascinated

26:07

to know what makes

26:09

you love dental work. Yeah,

26:13

so I do. I love

26:15

the restoration of. Cheese

26:17

and all the things at a o Seen the

26:20

good coast or mean the bad go to the

26:22

good. And the you know of

26:24

so they go so the northeast So

26:26

the gnarly or as a person c sar

26:28

that more excited you get his own

26:30

I'm hearing. The basically

26:32

yeah, that's pretty fascinating. And

26:35

I I do. and and I also

26:37

like that kind of the customer service

26:39

part of it of i really enjoy

26:41

how mean rate. That. Is

26:43

very my want them to feel

26:45

welcomed and loved and. Out

26:48

of pain and have confidence once

26:50

again while. Since passed

26:52

again Sir. You lumen eight

26:54

and a lot for me right there. On.

27:00

What's the sacrifice? How many years

27:02

and almost cos. He

27:04

ourselves. Part. Of the background

27:06

with that is. I'm older, I'm

27:08

thirty. I have a young family. And

27:11

I have tried a few times to get

27:13

into Dell school. haven't quite got there. but

27:16

I've talked to people that have been in

27:18

similar situation as me. And they

27:20

will add me on a path to. A

27:22

master's program that. Helps

27:25

you. Basically, we do well in that. Pretty.

27:28

Much everyone gets into their desired medical

27:30

program. so how long, and how much.

27:34

That is if you can range

27:36

from a year to two years

27:38

and it's about forty thousand. At

27:40

all. Know there's too much.

27:43

That's where the master I know brother lives

27:45

in ah trying to help. He also just

27:47

answer my questions. Total amount of money. And.

27:50

Total amount of time to become a dentist is

27:52

what. Okay, That that

27:54

is closer to. Depending.

27:56

On the school it's hundreds of thousands.

27:59

Three. Five hundred thousand and I don't want

28:01

you to go into debt for that because

28:03

I've literally talked a dentist who are. About

28:07

to break. Yeah, exactly. So

28:09

how long would it take you to save up

28:11

that kind of money? For.

28:14

And that's where none of us a brother

28:16

say with the i'm get either. I'm just

28:19

asking know how long would it take you

28:21

to save up that kind of money to

28:23

be able to go to the master's program

28:25

and the dental programs? Debt.

28:28

Free. Yeah,

28:31

so I see it as. Their.

28:33

There wouldn't be a path to save up

28:35

for auto. That's why we're out. Want to

28:37

do something like the military? But.

28:39

This with the military and the

28:42

summit hesitation of dentistry is. I

28:44

wouldn't be able to know of I'm accepted

28:46

into the military. Yeah, until I'm Marty. except

28:49

into Dell School. Yeah, I'll never be a

28:51

sacrifice of master's degree. Or

28:53

even know into I got the school pay

28:56

for the I I. I don't think dentistry

28:58

the past because I think there are a

29:00

lot of options. That. Meet

29:02

the criteria of why dentistry is

29:04

interesting you to review for you

29:07

and the audience you said. I

29:09

love the restoration Peace. I

29:12

said, you the Gnarly or the

29:14

T's they more excited you get

29:16

us? Yeah, I. Know there's

29:18

a seem. Second, You said.

29:21

I love the customer service piece.

29:24

To. Serving people and then

29:26

third. You dropped this

29:28

little detail. You. Said. I.

29:31

Just want to see them. Overcome

29:34

pain. Or. Lack of confidence and

29:36

cannot walk a little taller. I thought that was

29:38

an interesting new os. Did I get that right?

29:40

Am I? Am I getting that right? Yeah.

29:43

That sounds good or rights are

29:45

you have particularly handy person. No.

29:49

Not particularly. Because

29:52

I I I'm gonna challenge you to come up with

29:55

some different ideas. I'm gonna give you a couple. that

29:58

i think hit most of those points it will

30:00

hit the pain piece, but I think

30:02

it could hit maybe the confidence piece, but

30:04

it certainly is a big customer

30:06

service piece. I'm going to lock in on restoration

30:09

and customer service. Those

30:12

are the two main points. I

30:15

just wonder if you don't think about

30:17

getting into the car restoration business or

30:19

the house restoration business, because

30:22

it is the same concept of taking somebody's

30:24

teeth that are all jacked up and

30:27

fixing their teeth and their mouth and all the

30:29

positives that come with that. But

30:33

I think you're intrigued by

30:35

restoration, and I think the

30:38

thing you love is the idea of restoration,

30:40

and the thing that motivates

30:42

you is that you're

30:44

serving somebody deeply with that. Is

30:46

that right? Yeah, I would say

30:49

so. Yeah. The challenge is

30:51

you're not particularly handy, but I

30:53

don't know if that's not a thing you couldn't learn. When

30:55

I say those two things to you, how does that hit

30:57

you? I don't mind if it's off. That's

31:01

kind of been an idea that I've

31:03

recently had, but it's never been ...

31:06

Like you're saying,

31:08

I'm not particularly handy, so

31:10

I feel less. But

31:13

here's what I want you to do. I opened up

31:15

today's show talking about sitting with people and

31:17

having coffee and lunch. Your

31:19

homework assignment is to sit ... Well,

31:22

first and foremost, do some more

31:24

research on restoration type work. What

31:26

all is out there? Second, find

31:29

some people in your local area that are in that

31:31

kind of work and go get with them. You

31:34

know somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody that knows these

31:36

guys, or gals, and you can sit with them. I

31:39

would learn everything you could learn about what

31:41

it takes to be good at it. You might have enough

31:43

skill to do it, or it might

31:45

be a thing where you don't have to have the skill as much

31:47

as you hire people who have the skill. I

31:49

wonder if our bridge, since you've got a

31:51

family, a bridge would be to do this

31:53

on the side and build that up to

31:55

where eventually you do it for yourself, or

31:57

you go work for somebody who's doing that work.

32:00

work and you get a master's degree while

32:02

getting paid from them to do the work and eventually go

32:04

out on your own. I think that's a better path for

32:06

you. Does that make sense? Okay. Yeah

32:09

it does. Alright my man I appreciate the call.

32:12

That's the process for you. Dentistry

32:14

is just one way to do restorative work. I

32:16

think you need to figure out the restorative work

32:18

that you can do best. Thanks

32:21

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32:24

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