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Prop bet dangers in college sports./ Christian Laettner isn't wrong. (Yes, Christian Laettner.)

Prop bet dangers in college sports./ Christian Laettner isn't wrong. (Yes, Christian Laettner.)

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Prop bet dangers in college sports./ Christian Laettner isn't wrong. (Yes, Christian Laettner.)

Prop bet dangers in college sports./ Christian Laettner isn't wrong. (Yes, Christian Laettner.)

Prop bet dangers in college sports./ Christian Laettner isn't wrong. (Yes, Christian Laettner.)

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NCAA president, his name is Charlie Baker. It

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job. One

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of the big problems in college sports is it has

1:08

no leadership. It has no direction. It has no

1:12

guidelines whatsoever. It doesn't know what it's doing

1:14

or where it's going. So this

1:16

guy who's president of the NCAA doesn't

1:19

even know what his real role is anymore,

1:21

but he's not wrong for coming out and

1:23

saying, in my opinion, coming out and saying,

1:26

sports betting issues are on the rise

1:28

across the country with prop bets, continuing

1:31

to threaten the integrity and

1:33

competition, and leading to student athletes

1:35

and professional athletes getting harassed. Also

1:37

true. Oh, yeah. When you were a

1:39

player, you were stopped by guys

1:42

who gambled at attorney houses all over campus. They say,

1:44

how are you going to do? What do you think

1:46

we're going to cover the spread? That's happened a long,

1:49

long time. Um, you

1:51

know, I mean, there's an argument there that

1:53

says, one,

1:55

you shouldn't be chatting with him. Two, turn

1:59

it off. But he says

2:01

the NCAA has been working with states to deal

2:03

with these threats and many are responding by banning

2:06

college prop bets I don't know of a state

2:08

that has done that I Don't

2:10

know. I don't think there's any state is no no

2:12

But good and there was a question about an NBA

2:14

player a few weeks ago There was

2:16

a big number on an NBA player like for three

2:19

point shots and they got played Five

2:22

minutes and that was it's John T.

2:24

Porter. That was it who's a moron.

2:26

Yeah, that was it. He he played

2:28

four minutes He bets

2:30

on the

2:32

under four points scored Which

2:35

was like it's six or seven and

2:37

he scored zero Yeah left the game left the game and

2:39

then the next night when he didn't have a bet he

2:42

scored 12 Yeah, and now he's probably

2:44

gonna be kicked out of the sport forever. But but

2:48

my argument there is He

2:50

the most he could have made was ten thousand dollars

2:52

his salaries 450. See he doesn't

2:54

need to do that Yeah, yeah now he's got

2:56

none. Yeah But in in

2:59

college sports $10,000

3:02

means a lot to a kid at

3:04

$10,000 $5,000 to some Iowa State football

3:07

player means a lot deal Yeah, I'll

3:09

do that. Yeah, what's it?

3:11

What's a miss field goal? What's an interception

3:13

big deal and for Some

3:15

just about every division one NCAA football

3:17

games month, but a basketball game not

3:20

on television. Yeah, what happened? Oh, he

3:22

missed a few shots and right up.

3:25

Oh that layup Oh tough tough Break

3:28

so I mean, I don't know I Think

3:31

I think that I think there's gonna be some bad stuff

3:33

there I do And I

3:35

don't know by your discussion that you're giving more

3:37

fodder to Dan Dan Patrick and

3:39

the near my god No, that's that's another

3:42

part of this that worries me is that

3:44

people? That's

3:46

not gonna be the reason why Dan Patrick

3:49

is in favor of it he's because of

3:51

his voters Yeah, yeah, who've never been on

3:53

a game or even watched the game No, I

3:56

never been into a casino or never. Yeah, right

3:58

but work of the devil that I'm not

4:00

gambling. But I wonder

4:02

if more people are

4:05

going to hear this and start

4:07

to say, yeah, you know, man, it's kind of sketchy.

4:09

I mean, I don't worry about that. And

4:13

I don't know that I would disagree with somebody who

4:15

says, for a college game, I think you should be

4:17

worried about it. For a pro game,

4:20

I would not be worried at all.

4:22

No, because they're highly paid. It's above

4:24

board. I mean, this guy was flagged.

4:26

This stupid John T. Porter guy was

4:29

flagged by either ESPN bets or

4:31

DraftKings, the one who just said that's a regular

4:33

bet, and they flagged him. That's

4:36

why you want it to be legal. You

4:38

want it to be legal. Not

4:41

for any moral reason, but because that way

4:43

it's not black

4:45

market. But

4:48

for college, I don't know. I

4:50

think the guys- College prop bets, that poses

4:52

a big problem. I agree. So

4:54

if some kid's in trouble, some kid needs

4:57

five, 10,000 bucks or whatever, they'll

4:59

take dives and they'll

5:01

throw it. Here's an AD

5:03

from San Diego State. It says- San Diego State's

5:05

still in the tournament, by the way. How

5:08

did they do that? Like, when did that happen? All of

5:10

a sudden, they look up and they're in the final. They

5:12

were in the final game last year. Now they're playing

5:15

tonight at 639 against UConn. They'll

5:17

get destroyed, but- They're going to get throttled. Yeah. He

5:21

says, our student athletes are going to class. They're

5:23

more available in the community. There's a lot more

5:25

opportunity for one of them to be pressured, for

5:28

them to have something negative happen because they

5:30

missed the free-thrower to the

5:33

over, the under, all those types of things. Yeah.

5:37

Correct. Right. Very, very right. I

5:40

mean, I don't know what you do about it though. Because

5:44

it's there. It is already there. It's

5:47

already there. Except in Texas. It

5:49

is in California. Not in California either. You're

5:51

right. Because that's Shoney Ohtonic. He couldn't

5:54

be, he didn't, he

5:56

made his bet with a legal bookie. And that's

5:58

exactly why it should be legal. Right. So

6:01

that illegal bookie doesn't exist. Right.

6:04

And there's tracking information and you really,

6:06

it would be harder to throw a

6:08

game if it's legal. Harder.

6:11

Very much. Because you're going to get exposed. You're

6:13

going to get exposed. Yeah. The

6:18

businesses don't want the

6:21

corruption. They don't want it. They want

6:23

to flag you. They want to be in

6:25

business. They want people taking risks. Legitimate consumers

6:28

taking risks. So I don't

6:30

know. I think this guy's for once, I

6:32

think the NCAA president who has no job

6:34

anymore really to speak of, he's

6:36

right about this. I

6:38

don't know what they can or

6:40

will be able to do. Why does the

6:43

NCAA even exist? Is it just for championships?

6:45

Even the college football playoffs are out of

6:47

the realm of the NCAA. I guess maybe

6:50

for lesser ... Less cross country championships,

6:52

tennis championships, wrestling. And this basketball. The

6:54

basketball too. Yeah. Sure. Which

6:57

is a ginormous moneymaker. Fish cow. But

7:00

the day's coming and we've talked about

7:02

it endlessly when there's going to be 48 to 50

7:06

top teams and they're going to say

7:08

... In football. Yeah, in football let's say we're

7:10

our own entity. You go do the

7:13

Mountain West and you go do the American Athletic,

7:15

we're going to do our own football because we

7:17

are in bed with the networks and

7:19

we're going to get Nick Saban or Mack Brown to

7:21

run the deal and it's football. It's big time football

7:23

ink. That's what it is. Yeah.

7:27

I don't know what he does, but he's not wrong about this.

7:29

I don't know what he or anyone else

7:31

can do. I mean,

7:33

you're a college guy, not a

7:35

player at Texas. I'm talking about just mediocre, run

7:38

of the mill and you

7:40

got scholarship money and that's nice, but

7:43

a chance to make a few thousand extra

7:45

dollars at the frat house if they say,

7:48

dude, if you make sure we hit

7:50

the under ... Yeah. It's

7:52

an extra two grand for you. I've

7:54

got you on a prop bet over

7:56

12 points tonight. Could

7:59

you help them? Could you help a guy out? What's

8:02

it in for me? Okay, we'll give you do that. And

8:04

they're also talking about guys getting hassled by people.

8:07

Yeah. I can't remember what basketball player the other night

8:09

said he was getting hassled as he came off the

8:11

floor. Yeah. People yelling at

8:13

him about the over under. That's hardcore. It

8:15

is. But they're in the stands. Yeah. And

8:18

in the state where you can do

8:20

it over the phone. You can do the

8:23

immediate and that just gets me when

8:25

you can, you can make

8:27

a bet. Every

8:30

moment during a game on something. Except in

8:32

Texas. Except in Texas. You can't do that

8:34

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Christian Leitner. Okay, 32 years

14:05

ago today, he just blew it. Thirty-two

14:07

years ago. What happened today? NCAA

14:10

basketball. Never gonna tease us. Garrett, what happened

14:12

32 years ago today? The

14:14

shot, I'm assuming so? The shot. Christian

14:16

Leitner's shot against the Kentucky Wildcats. Vern Lundquist had

14:18

the great call of it. Christian

14:21

Leitner was on a national show today, Greeny

14:23

Show on the mothership, and

14:25

Christian Leitner was very pointed in

14:27

his comments. The dude hates

14:30

name-image likeness, and he hates the

14:32

transfer portal. It's such a

14:34

totally different world. College basketball has really

14:36

gone through, I think, two

14:39

revolutions or something like that since you were there.

14:41

First, it went to the one and done era

14:43

where, you know, all the guys were going pro.

14:45

And now here we are in

14:47

this NIL transfer portal era where the

14:50

sport has really dramatically changed again from

14:52

where you sit and watch it as

14:54

one of the most famous college players

14:56

ever. What do you think about where the sport

14:58

is right now? They gotta take out

15:00

the NIL. They gotta wipe that out. They

15:02

gotta change the transfer portal. They got, I

15:05

know everyone's staying the horses out of the

15:07

barn and you can't take stuff back, but

15:11

how can you establish any type of

15:13

culture at a school when you're getting

15:15

new kids every year? That

15:17

would, that would mean every year was

15:20

like my freshman year at Duke. And

15:22

you're so much better your third,

15:24

your fourth year when you're under

15:27

one system, one program, one

15:29

coach, one specifically

15:31

defined culture that the way you want

15:34

to play office, the way you want

15:36

to play defense, I

15:38

don't know how the coaches do it in

15:40

today's game. And that's why

15:42

some of the better ones are starting to quit.

15:47

The coach at Villanova, he

15:49

never should have quit. Nick,

15:53

you've been thinking about quitting or you already

15:55

quit. I mean, it's

15:57

just, it's so bad to see some of these.

16:00

great, great coaches stop

16:02

coaching. And it's because of the NIL

16:04

it's because of the transfer portal. I

16:07

think I saw something with Nick Saban, where he

16:09

said, the first thing a

16:11

kid says to him and a recruit says to him

16:14

is how much money are you going to

16:16

get me? I mean, it's just

16:18

horrible. Well,

16:20

that was whining. Yeah. Christian Leitner. I

16:23

mean, he was on the dream team in 1992

16:25

team in an Olympic team. And

16:28

he did, which is

16:30

pretty amazing. The

16:32

most famous basketball team ever

16:34

assembled and he's there.

16:36

It's just a token college guy just to be

16:38

sitting there. Yeah.

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