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Welcome back everyone to the Grace Curly Show.

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I wanted to switch gears here for a second because yesterday we

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spent a lot of time talking about Lawrence

1:00

O'Donnell and the way he was covering Stormy Daniels

1:02

in court and saying, you know, she

1:04

had actually, you know, why would I try

1:06

to recreate this? I'll let the master do

1:09

his thing. This was Lawrence O'Donnell. Well,

1:11

the excitement and anticipation

1:14

in the room hit a new high at

1:17

1032 a.m. She

1:21

entered wearing all black as if on her way

1:23

to a funeral. The

1:25

loose, fitting, plain black clothing, draping

1:27

from her shoulders to her toes,

1:30

suggested the modesty of a nun.

1:34

Yeah, so he's

1:36

into this, needless to say. He's covering

1:38

this closely. And the other part

1:41

of, I think, what's become the liberal narrative

1:43

is this idea that when Trump wins the

1:45

election, God willing, he's going to throw people

1:48

in jail. And you know what the common

1:50

theme is, Jared? It's like fantasy. There's

1:52

this fantastical element to everything of, well, maybe

1:55

he'll do this. Play the sound cut from

1:57

Hillary Clinton, please. This is morning, Joe. They

1:59

love nothing. more. Joe Scarborough loves nothing more.

2:01

The guy who had Trump on 41 times

2:03

in the 2016 primaries, the

2:06

guy who went to Mar-a-Lago for

2:09

free drinks with his now wife

2:11

Mika Brzezinski, loves nothing more than

2:13

to fantasize about Donald Trump putting

2:15

him in prison. Really,

2:17

it's like stolen valor of future prison

2:19

time. Like he wants to imagine in

2:21

some alternate universe, he's going to be

2:23

locked away and we're all going to

2:25

be at home like chanting for Joe

2:28

let him out, let him out. It's

2:30

all part of their warped sick

2:33

fantasies. And Hillary Clinton's, I mean,

2:36

she's head of the club

2:38

in this sense, so cut 24. Maybe

2:43

he wouldn't jail all of

2:45

his political opponents. One

2:47

is one too many. Maybe he wouldn't try

2:49

to force out of business. The members of

2:52

the press who didn't agree with him, one

2:54

is one too many. We go down the line and

2:57

maybe this would be our last election because

3:00

someone who will not accept the

3:02

validity of an election is

3:04

someone who doesn't believe in elections. He

3:06

believes in his own power, his own

3:09

right to power and his

3:11

demand that he be installed

3:14

regardless of whether he gets the votes

3:16

or not. Ifs and buts

3:18

and maybes and what, yeah, well

3:20

maybe if he gets elected,

3:22

I'll become a billionaire. Who's to say?

3:25

As Jerry Seinfeld says to Kramer when

3:27

he's talking about building levels in his

3:29

apartment, anything can be done. It's a

3:31

question of whether or not you do

3:33

it. And also, isn't it ironic

3:35

that these people that are salivating at the

3:38

thought of Donald Trump going to prison are

3:40

also so afraid that when he becomes president,

3:42

he's going to put them in prison? By

3:44

the way, Hillary, I would mention that we

3:46

were all hoping he was going to put

3:48

you in prison and he didn't follow through

3:50

on that one. So his actual, the

3:53

critique I have of Trump is that he didn't put

3:55

people in prison. But

3:57

sure, if you want to convince yourself because you're all,

4:00

committing this lawfare against Trump trying to

4:02

get him into to be in

4:04

an orange jumpsuit. If you want to convince yourself that

4:07

you have to do this because otherwise he's

4:09

gonna put you in jail, go for it.

4:12

Whatever helps you sleep at night. The

4:14

Chardonnay and the Trump fantasies make some

4:16

sort of concoction that helps her doze

4:18

off into her slumber.

4:21

But Miranda Devine did

4:23

such a great job with this piece today. I got

4:26

to read you a little bit Jared. I haven't read

4:28

on the air in a while. This is worth it. For

4:32

Donald Trump haters, the Stormy Daniels trial

4:34

is a fantasy come true. An

4:37

orgasmic treat of Donald and his

4:39

boxers being spanked on the bottom

4:42

by a porn actress. The

4:44

former president trapped in court like a

4:46

cage lion forced to listen to all

4:48

the humiliating detail instead of being out

4:50

on the campaign trail entertaining. Their

4:54

matinee idol judge Juan Merchant with his

4:57

fetching gray cowlick threatening to throw Trump

4:59

in jail if he doesn't stop shaking

5:01

his head. In somewhere they

5:03

hope Melania is shedding a tear under

5:06

her Gucci sunglasses. Whoopi

5:08

Goldberg, we've already played Whoopi today, but

5:10

this is a different Whoopi quote. She

5:14

looked as if she was having an

5:16

out-of-body rapture on ABC's The

5:18

View this week when the

5:20

conversation turned to whether Merchant should throw

5:22

Trump in jail for contempt. This

5:25

is what Sonny Hosen said, to prove a

5:27

point put him in the clink. Whoopi

5:29

said, why not put him in the clink? Whoopi

5:33

fairly levitated in her chair with excitement.

5:35

Whoa, whoa, I don't want this

5:37

to sound like I'm doing wishful thinking,

5:39

but which prison would be best? Laughter

5:43

around the table. Rikers

5:45

cried Sonny. Whoopi responds

5:47

back. I'm okay if he

5:49

goes to Alcatraz. What about Guantanamo Bay?

5:53

The ladies were rocking with laughter by this

5:55

stage and Anna Navarro always a really

5:57

nice woman, a woman who supports others.

6:00

There are women. You. Know someone

6:02

who seems like she's gotta a

6:04

good head on our shoulders? She.

6:07

Said oh that would be closed tomorrow. Lago

6:09

Molony I can come and visit. The.

6:11

Women are evil. They.

6:14

Are pure evil. They are against

6:16

it to their misery. He's the

6:18

only thing in their lives. Sleepy

6:20

must really have no other joy.

6:22

Jarrod. To use

6:25

up so much? Have you ever heard

6:27

that. You know if someone apologizes

6:29

to you or if you hold a grudge against

6:31

someone, you're. You're. Drinking poison and

6:33

hoping that has an effect on them like

6:35

you're only hurting yourself. The. Level

6:38

of base and of so all

6:40

this man takes up in these

6:42

women. Is. Unbelievable

6:45

and. I love

6:47

I'm Miranda. Devine said she compares. it's like

6:49

an ex girlfriend. She says there's something quite

6:51

sick in sad about this level of obsession

6:53

with Trump. And. This sort

6:55

of desire for him to be brought low

6:57

it seems more like the passion of a

7:00

spurned lover than a normal reaction to a

7:02

political figure in court. And.

7:05

Then she does reference Lawrence. Oh donald. And

7:08

the prudish coverage of the minutiae of storm

7:10

his testimony that could have been ripped

7:12

from the opening scene of one of her

7:14

low rent porn flicks. We. Said

7:16

it first here on Greece clearly show

7:18

and celica porn north and Florence. Oh

7:20

Donald, I don't know you're going for

7:23

some the more high brow maybe this

7:25

is the closest some media figures get

7:27

to sex That I would say is

7:29

a good. Guess. There's.

7:32

Something missing in their lives. They

7:34

are absolutely, And you know they

7:36

say Jared about the opposite of

7:38

love isn't heat is indifference. Because.

7:42

Love and hate it a fine line. It's like how

7:44

people get divorced. And you think at

7:46

one point you love this person so much you want

7:48

to spend the rest of your life with them. and

7:51

now you hate them more than probably anyone else in

7:53

your life. It's

7:55

a real fine line. These.

7:57

Women: and as such as we're in

8:00

like Lawrence O'Donnell, it's all these people. They

8:03

are consumed by this

8:06

man. They sit there giddy

8:08

at the thought of hearing about sex he had

8:10

in 2006. How

8:13

perverted is that? This

8:15

is how they get their jollies, hearing about how

8:17

Donald Trump had sex decades ago.

8:23

Now, but out

8:26

in the real world, the courtroom soap

8:28

opera is an aggravation. We've heard it

8:30

all before. It happened eight years ago. Dems

8:33

already wheeled out the scandal in 2016 and

8:35

it didn't work then. Why would it work

8:37

eight years later and why now six months

8:39

before the election? On

8:42

pure optics, the trial looks crooked and

8:44

Trump looks strong. He comes across as

8:46

serious and angry, but in control. Yeah,

8:49

I have to agree. And also something

8:52

I would add into this is

8:54

that the weird part about Trump's arrangement, and I'm curious

8:57

if anyone else has found this to be the case.

9:00

I thought for a minute when

9:02

Biden won, when

9:05

Biden was selected in 2020, that maybe

9:09

as time went on, that people

9:11

would level out

9:13

a bit, you know, the people would come

9:16

down from that high of just hating this

9:18

person so much and maybe even realize that

9:20

maybe some of that anger was misplaced. Maybe

9:23

they had gotten a little over their skis.

9:27

And that has not happened. It has

9:29

metastasized. These women are even more deranged

9:31

than they were before. Whoopi Goldberg thinks

9:33

because Donald Trump showed up at the

9:36

courthouse, that means he's guilty. By

9:39

the way, there's a lot of people throughout

9:41

history, including black people, by the way, who

9:43

would have an issue with that legal theory that

9:45

if you show up in court and someone says

9:47

you did something that you're guilty, that

9:51

you don't have to, no one has to

9:53

prove your guilt, just you being there is

9:55

proof enough. And

9:57

it wouldn't be so bad if Whoopi wasn't sitting next to

9:59

Sonny Hoege. And she doesn't want

10:02

to chime in at that point and go, well,

10:04

actually, there's a tenant. They're innocent until Perving gets—no,

10:07

that's not worth bringing up to Whoopi Goldberg. You

10:10

don't want to challenge her on her legal knowledge,

10:12

just like you don't want to challenge her on

10:14

her Holocaust knowledge. But I find that the fantasy

10:17

element of this, I think

10:20

Miranda Devine hit it on the head. It's emblematic

10:24

of this issue they have. There's a real

10:26

sickness and a real

10:30

perverse obsession with hating

10:32

him. And it actually brings me back to

10:34

a quote. I read it a couple weeks ago, Jared.

10:38

It's from this book, The Dutch House, and

10:41

it's like these two young people, they're siblings.

10:43

They hate their stepmother. And

10:45

as they get older, they drive by her house, and they

10:47

sit at the driveway, and they talk about her all the

10:49

time. And then also one day

10:51

they decide to stop doing it, like it's not serving them anymore. And

10:55

the narrator realizes, he says, we

10:57

became addicted to our misery. And

11:00

it's true. You start to hate somebody. It's

11:02

so bad for you. But

11:05

it also is very addicting. You

11:08

don't even realize you're doing it. These people

11:10

need something. And

11:13

by the way, whether or not Trump wins

11:16

in 2024 – we're in 2024, but whether

11:18

or not he wins in November, this is not going

11:20

away. These people are going to

11:22

their graves with this hate. It's like

11:24

nothing I've ever seen. Yes, according to

11:27

Filex 214 PM, Trump walks back

11:29

into court and fist bumps, heavy-hitting

11:33

stuff coming out of this courtroom right

11:35

now. Well, the other part of it – Hopefully Whoopi hears

11:37

that. The other part of

11:39

it too is that they're

11:42

– obviously, like you mentioned yesterday,

11:44

Jared, they're trying to keep him in New

11:46

York City. They're trying to put

11:48

a stranglehold on his campaigning efforts.

11:51

But it is backfiring because everybody

11:54

knows that he's not able to go anywhere else except

11:56

for on the weekends and on Wednesdays. So then in

11:58

the meantime, he's become like a – like the Where's

12:00

Waldo of Manhattan. He's going to the fire

12:02

department with pizza. He's going to the construction

12:04

workers taking pictures. He's

12:07

going to Harlem to meet with the

12:09

Bodega worker. And there's something authentic about

12:12

these interactions, whether or not you love Trump

12:14

or hate Trump. I don't think

12:16

you can question that he knows who he

12:18

is and he's not changing. There's something authentic

12:20

and real and kind of the

12:22

pressing of the flesh of like the political campaign

12:24

that Joe Biden does not have. And it doesn't

12:27

matter that he has the entire week cleared or

12:29

he doesn't know. It doesn't matter that he can

12:31

go anywhere he wants. They put him in these situations

12:33

where he's in a controlled environment with like 10 people.

12:35

He reads from a teleprompter. He messes

12:37

that up. And then they put him

12:39

back down the basement. And so maybe

12:43

this would be more effective if he was going

12:45

up against like a Gavin Newsom who was going

12:47

everywhere and traveling the country. But from what I've

12:49

been seeing, I heard today in the New York

12:51

Times, oh, you know, it's hard

12:53

because Joe Biden

12:56

really picks up

12:58

his schedule on Wednesdays because he knows that that's

13:00

the day Donald Trump's gonna try to campaign. That

13:03

would be news to me. I cover Joe Biden every

13:05

weekday. I follow the

13:07

news on Joe Biden from the moment I get

13:09

up basically to the end of the show at

13:12

three o'clock. And I had no idea that on

13:14

Wednesdays he was doing more work

13:16

than usual. Seemed like the same to

13:18

me. But you really should check

13:20

out this piece by Miranda Devine. It's

13:23

excellent. And again, there is something quite

13:25

sick and sad about this level of

13:27

obsession with Trump and

13:29

the desire for him to be

13:31

brought low. They're clapping, saying, oh,

13:33

Melania can visit him. Melania

13:36

can visit him in Alcatraz. Ha ha ha ha

13:38

ha ha ha. By the way, just

13:41

for a point of reference for the historians at The View,

13:43

Alcatraz closed in 1963. Just

13:47

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Jared. up with her. Okay?

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text that I just pointed out I like that one. Yeah

16:02

this one comes to us from 978

16:05

it's not the view it's the coven

16:07

the only thing they're missing is a

16:09

bubbling cauldron. It's true. I mean it

16:11

is a bubbling cauldron of stupidity. Do

16:13

you think they have or do they

16:15

I don't want to use it culturally inappropriate

16:18

term they have doll a doll of Trump

16:20

that they stick pins to. Oh like a voodoo

16:22

doll. I bet they have that backstage. I think

16:24

at the press at the yeah at the White

16:26

House press they have like a beat up Trump

16:28

head. Trump head that they hide in the rafters

16:30

or something. So if they have that at

16:33

the press briefing then Whoopi and Sunny and

16:35

Joy they must have one on standby to

16:37

just get out their anger. It's like what

16:39

happened? What did he do to these women

16:42

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16:47

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no. Alright let's go to Lou you're up next

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on the Grace Curly show. What's going on Lou? Yeah

17:30

how you doing Grace? Look I want to extend this a

17:32

little bit more. It's not so

17:34

much Trump they hate Trump because he's there

17:36

he's a focal point but they hate Americans.

17:38

They're you know they're no better than these

17:41

brats of the colleges that are going around

17:43

saying death to America death to Israel. They're

17:45

the same types of people. Look

17:47

at the people they don't like they don't like

17:50

the police they don't like fire they don't like

17:52

anybody that likes Trump. Police firemen

17:54

look how they acted during COVID for

17:56

example how to regular people they look

17:58

down on regular people Trump is basically

18:00

saying what regular people feel about

18:03

them and that they really don't

18:05

like. I mean that's the basic

18:07

point. Yeah. Yeah. You

18:09

know, Lou, you just made me think of, and it's

18:12

something Trump says all the time, like, they're not coming

18:14

after me, they're coming after you, I'm just in their

18:16

way, that type of thing. You know,

18:18

they're focusing their energy on me, but

18:20

really they prefer to focus it on

18:22

you, I'm just, you know, a distraction.

18:26

And I think you're onto something there,

18:28

and I think that that's true to

18:31

an extent where ... and

18:33

that's the ironic part, is that remember Katie

18:35

Couric a couple weeks ago was saying how

18:38

she thinks MAGA people are jealous of the

18:40

elite liberals in society and she thinks that's

18:42

what it is? I

18:45

think that if you took the two groups and

18:47

you looked at these ladies on The View, excitedly

18:51

clapping their hands about the prospect

18:53

of Melania having to visit Trump

18:56

in prison, and you told me

18:58

which group is the jealous group or which group is

19:00

the bitter twisted group, I would say these people are

19:02

pretty bitter. I mean they've got a lot of money,

19:04

all the women on The View and Lawrence O'Donnell and

19:06

all these people at MSNBC, they got plenty of money.

19:09

They should have full lives, I guess,

19:11

but money doesn't necessarily translate to that

19:14

if you're missing some other chip. And

19:16

so it's funny because they love to paint us

19:19

as these bitter Bible

19:23

toting, gun-clinging losers,

19:26

dum-dums too, don't forget, like we can't

19:29

read maps where these credulous boomer rubes,

19:32

but I interact all the time with

19:34

the Republicans and, you know, MAGA people, and

19:38

I never see this level of wickedness. This

19:41

is wicked, these women, that texter's

19:43

right, it's like they're standing around

19:45

a cauldron like chanting spells. And

19:48

we're the bitter ones, we're

19:50

the angry ones, I don't know. I

19:52

think we're kind of fun. I think we're, I

19:55

think we're all right. We'll

19:57

be right back, I want to talk about Kamala Harris.

20:00

talk to the New York Times. The New York Times is

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Live from the Aviva Thratriya

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Studio. Welcome

20:27

back everyone to The Grace Curley Show. Thank you so

20:29

much for tuning in today. So many people

20:32

wishing me a happy Mother's Day already,

20:34

which I really appreciate. And

20:36

it's a beautiful Thursday afternoon and we're talking

20:38

about everything. We're talking about Trump Derangement Syndrome.

20:41

We're talking about this trial in New York

20:43

City, still getting updates on it. Again,

20:46

it's very stale. I feel like I'm reading

20:48

a National Enquirer from like 15 years ago.

20:51

I don't really know why I care about

20:53

this. I don't know what the crime is.

20:55

I don't think Alvin Bragg knows what the

20:57

crime is. When

21:00

there's an actual crime, he has

21:02

no problem ignoring it or

21:05

downgrading it to basically nothing. But in

21:07

this case where it's kind of this

21:09

unicorn mystery crime, he wants to upgrade

21:11

it. So we are

21:13

following this. I want to talk about Kamala

21:15

Harris, but I want to go to the calls. Joe,

21:18

you're up next. What's going on, Joe? Hey,

21:21

Grace. How you doing? I just

21:24

wanted – you really struck a note there when

21:26

you said that the View ladies were like jilted

21:28

girlfriends. That's

21:31

exactly right. I mean, if you remember when

21:33

he was on the show and they joked

21:35

with him about running for president, they're

21:39

upset because he did go to the dance.

21:42

He just didn't take them to the dance.

21:44

Yeah. And they

21:47

all sit around like bitter girlfriends

21:49

just commiserating with each other. Yeah,

21:52

yeah. And we've all been

21:54

there. You get into a rut

21:56

or something. You feel like you've been wronged in some way.

21:58

And you can just kind of like – Let it

22:00

fester and every night you kind of rehash

22:02

it with the same person. Hey listen to

22:04

this Yeah, did I tell you this part

22:06

you keep dissecting the same things over and

22:08

over again? Hoping that if you hate enough

22:10

or if you're angry enough that you'll feel

22:12

better and you don't you might feel like

22:14

a temporary High from this

22:17

hatred, but you really don't end up

22:19

feeling better and you're right about these

22:21

women and it's not just women It's

22:23

it's men too. I mean he has

22:26

he's transfixed a lot of these Serious

22:28

people like Jonathan Karl and George Stephanopoulos,

22:31

but I think the part about he went to the dance

22:33

He just didn't bring them is really

22:35

insightful because one thing my mom always

22:37

tells me is she

22:39

says Nancy Pelosi

22:41

and Chuck Schumer and all these all

22:44

these Democrats who used to be friendly

22:46

with Trump Especially Chuck

22:48

Schumer. They knew each other from New York Jerry

22:51

Nadler guys like that they're

22:53

very angry that he

22:57

was able to prove that you could

22:59

come in as an outsider and Take

23:03

a good crack at it and

23:05

do a pretty decent job And

23:08

to them that threatened

23:10

the whole infrastructure of

23:13

their scam Like their

23:15

entire thing was you need to have this

23:17

expertise They can't even tell you what their

23:19

expertise is their ex you need to be

23:21

an expert an expert in being a hack

23:24

You need to have decades and decades of

23:26

experience being a hack in order to be

23:28

the top dog and Trump's whole thing was

23:30

I'll Run it like a business. I'll run

23:32

it like a business. No, no, no, no,

23:34

no that could never work and then he

23:37

gets in there he proves that it

23:39

can work and it's like They've

23:41

been they've been playing pretend this whole time

23:43

or they've been playing house And

23:45

he just came in and knocked everything over and

23:48

that really threatened them. It threatened their

23:51

existence Which is just you know

23:53

sucking off of the taxpayers and

23:55

just and just really

23:58

like I said being

24:00

losers who

24:02

lie to people, who spend our

24:05

money, and who don't get anything done. And

24:09

he was the person

24:13

who threatened that. And they couldn't, they can't

24:16

handle it. Even to this day, they can't handle it. That's

24:18

why Hillary Clinton, like this is how out of her mind

24:20

Hillary Clinton is. She's on

24:22

Morning Joe talking about how Trump

24:24

is like Hitler, and this is like the 1930s. This

24:28

woman has her head so far up her, you

24:30

know what, that she

24:32

doesn't think it's a bad idea. She can't

24:34

read the room enough to know that right

24:36

now, when you have a bunch of liberal,

24:39

radical progressives chanting, burn Tel

24:41

Aviv to the ground, and

24:44

from the river to the sea, Palestine will

24:46

be free on college campuses. She can't put

24:48

her finger in the wind and say, maybe

24:50

right now I shouldn't be even talking about

24:52

Hitler. Maybe that, maybe that's not

24:54

a great idea. That's how dumb and obtuse

24:56

– and you know she's not dumb though.

24:59

She's not. That's not a fair

25:01

thing for Hillary, because I've heard her speak before, and I've

25:03

heard her break down this whole conflict. She's not dumb. She's

25:07

dishonest, and

25:09

she's trying to

25:11

convince people of this fantasy that

25:13

Trump's this big, bad wolf. And

25:17

she's a horrible, horrible politician. That's

25:19

a part of it she's never come to terms

25:21

with. She thought it was her turn. She thought

25:23

2016 was her time to shine. She'll never get

25:25

over the fact that he took that from her.

25:27

And she also cannot come to grips with the

25:29

fact that maybe you should have gone to Wisconsin.

25:32

Maybe you should have campaigned. Maybe

25:34

people don't like you, and it's not because you're

25:36

a woman. It's

25:39

just because they don't like you. Well,

25:42

it's a lot of copium from

25:44

these politicians too. And Grace, you

25:46

brought this up before. At one

25:49

point, every politician looks at themselves

25:51

and says, you know what? You

25:53

can be president. And these people,

25:55

and I include the Bidens, and

25:58

that's the Bidens especially, they have spent their

26:00

entire lives, selling

26:02

their souls to

26:05

get what Donald Trump has next.

26:08

International influence, charisma,

26:11

fame, money, all that. That's all these

26:13

people want. They have tried to, they

26:16

have wasted all the resources of their

26:18

lives to try and get an approximation

26:20

of what he has naturally. That they

26:22

could always say, yeah, but he'll never

26:24

be president and I'm in the arena.

26:26

This is our one thing we have. And then he

26:28

comes in and he's like, oh, you know what? I'm going to

26:30

do that too as a lark. I'm bored.

26:32

I want to be president. I think I could do

26:35

a better job than you. So not only do they

26:37

hate him because he is everything

26:39

they have tried to falsely

26:42

generate of themselves, he now

26:45

took their job as well.

26:47

Yeah, you're right. Because you know what,

26:49

Jared? You're right on the money because

26:52

everyone has an experience like that too, or

26:54

maybe I'm just a bitter, bitter person. But I

26:56

had this friend in high school and she

26:58

was really, really funny and she was popular

27:00

and she was athletic and she was good at

27:02

everything. And I remember one time she floated

27:04

the idea of doing something in theater, like

27:06

she was going to join. And

27:08

I thought if she gets like the lead role in one

27:10

of these plays, I

27:12

know I'm going to be out of my mind

27:15

because that's like the one thing that

27:17

she doesn't have interest in that

27:20

I'm kind of good at. And

27:22

I won't be able to take it. And I knew that.

27:24

Like I know myself. I just won't be able to take

27:26

it. Like if she shows up and

27:28

she's good at this and she takes this, this

27:30

is my thing. This is the one thing that's

27:32

my thing. And you know, they always say like

27:34

DC's Hollywood for ugly people. I don't like to

27:36

say that because I'm not commenting on people's looks.

27:38

But it's like DC is Hollywood for people who

27:40

couldn't cut it. You know, people who were also

27:42

rans, who they couldn't be the Brad Pitt. So

27:45

they go to DC and they still get on

27:47

TV, but they've got to talk about, you

27:50

know, transportation. But

27:52

Jared, it's like now

27:54

they're saying to themselves, well,

27:57

I couldn't make it in Hollywood. So I had to

27:59

come to DC. You already made it in Hollywood, so you

28:01

don't get to come here. You don't get to do both.

28:04

I didn't get to do that one. This was my

28:06

backup plan, and now you're using my backup plan, even

28:08

though you already had Hollywood. Are

28:10

we making sense? I think we are.

28:12

I think we cracked the code. Rich, you're up next on

28:15

The Grace Curly Show. Go ahead, Rich. How

28:18

you doing? With

28:20

regards to the Trump trial, if

28:23

he is convicted, there are

28:25

two attorneys, I believe,

28:28

in the jury. Right.

28:31

Out of those individuals afterwards,

28:35

justified to any potential client,

28:38

that they are knowledgeable in what

28:40

they're doing if they voted to

28:43

convict on

28:46

what's going on. That's a good question, Rich.

28:48

I don't know if they have to reveal

28:51

to people, like future, to

28:53

anyone. I think they can keep it anonymous. I don't

28:55

think they have to tell people that they were in

28:58

the trial. What I will say is

29:00

this, though. I saw a breakdown on Fox, he

29:02

might have been Turley or some legal analyst, who

29:04

brought up a good point about having two attorneys

29:07

on a jury. He said,

29:09

I would never want – if I was

29:11

someone's lawyer and you do the jury

29:13

selection, he said, I would never

29:16

want two attorneys. It's not because I don't

29:18

think that these two people are capable of

29:20

making a good decision or capable of doing

29:22

what's right. It's because they

29:24

have too much sway with the

29:26

rest of the jurors. They

29:28

hold – they have a different level of weight to

29:30

everything they say because people who are regular people –

29:32

this would happen to me. If

29:35

I was in a jury and there were two lawyers next

29:37

to me and they're telling me, oh, well, this and this

29:39

and this, and they're using all their fancy lawyer speak,

29:41

I would kind of go, well, you might

29:43

– they're probably onto something. I just do a radio show every

29:45

day. Maybe, yeah, let's go with

29:47

– you know what? Ned seems

29:49

like he knows what he's talking about. Let's wrap this

29:52

thing up. We'll go with what Ned said. So depending

29:54

on how they feel, that can really sway a jury

29:56

one way or the other, and that to me made

29:58

a lot of sense because – You can

30:00

say to yourself, oh, these lawyers

30:02

aren't worth their weight in salt if

30:05

they can't make the right decision

30:07

on this being a mockery of a sham of

30:09

a mockery of a sham. Or you

30:11

could say they're absolutely going to be in the bag

30:14

and vote against Trump.

30:17

But I think the bigger issue is,

30:19

however they feel, it's

30:21

going to be more convincing for the regular people

30:23

on the jury who might be

30:26

persuaded by them. Because people forget this.

30:28

I forget this. It's not like everyone

30:31

goes in the back room after it's done and says,

30:34

and we vote this way. It can

30:36

be a long process. I just had a friend who

30:38

went through jury duty, and it took a couple of

30:40

days because there was one holdout, and they all had

30:43

to go through it every day and convince her. That's

30:46

a huge part of this. Mark, you're up next

30:48

on The Grace Curley Show. Go ahead, Mark. Yeah,

30:51

hi, Grace. I just had a comment on

30:53

you and one of the callers before I

30:55

was talking about is why the Democrats hate

30:57

Trump. Yeah. I think

30:59

it's that exact reason. This guy comes

31:02

in, no experience,

31:05

uses common sense, takes

31:08

a look at things, does

31:10

them, the economy, foreign

31:13

policy, all that

31:15

stuff. He

31:18

makes a, you know, he looks, makes

31:20

common sense choices, and they work. And

31:22

then, you know, that's correct.

31:25

The Democrats, Schumer, Pelosi, and all of

31:27

them, you know, they're pretty pissed off

31:29

because this guy just comes in out

31:32

of the blue, no experience, no this,

31:34

no that. And on top of

31:36

it, just let me add this point. When

31:39

everything does come together and he

31:42

starts to get, you know, positive

31:46

feedback and all that,

31:48

you know, they're just, they're really

31:50

mad. And the thing with him,

31:52

he doesn't like try to

31:55

be a politician who says, well, we

31:57

put it together. No, Trump isn't doing it. going

32:00

to kiss the, you know, but Trump

32:02

come in, Trump did it. He's not going

32:05

to acquiesce that we all had a share

32:07

in this. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that

32:09

absolutely pissed them off. Yeah. You're right, Mark,

32:11

because it's like, okay, so not only can he come in,

32:13

not only can he become president, not only can he, you

32:16

know, use common sense to enact some

32:18

change, but on top of that, he still

32:20

gets to go on social media and say

32:22

whatever he wants. He doesn't have to even

32:24

become a lame square politician and lie to

32:26

people. He can just go up and say

32:28

whatever he's thinking at any time. What is

32:30

he, Teflon Don? And that gets them mad.

32:33

802 said, Grace, don't forget that Hillary also thought it was her time

32:35

in 2008 too. So

32:37

in her mind, she's been robbed twice. Yeah.

32:39

And you know, what's funny is Mark

32:42

just made me think of this

32:44

idea of, you

32:46

know, I was just saying that about the lawyers, how

32:48

if I was around lawyers and they were telling

32:50

me, this is really the, this is really the

32:52

best decision to make. I might be swayed by

32:54

that. I think that's a part of this too.

32:56

And hear me out. It's

32:59

like with COVID with Fauci and all the

33:01

people at the CDC, they

33:03

like the idea that

33:06

they have so much education that they're almost speaking

33:08

their own language and that there's no way that

33:10

you would ever understand. So you really just have

33:12

to take their word for it. And it was

33:14

the same thing with Trump and

33:16

the swamp is that, Oh, no, no,

33:19

you could never be a politician because there's so

33:21

much that goes into it that the regular people

33:23

don't understand and you could never understand it. And

33:25

all of a sudden he comes in and he's

33:27

like, Oh, no, I can kind of figure it

33:29

out. That gets them upset. And if someone who's

33:31

had my fair share of imposter syndrome, where I'll

33:33

always think to myself, well, I shouldn't be talking

33:35

about that. I don't know enough about that. I'm

33:37

not an expert in that. That's

33:41

how they, they

33:43

trap you into feeling like you have

33:45

to obey whatever they're telling you to do. That's

33:48

how they have lockdowns where people just fall in

33:50

line. It's this idea of just

33:52

because they have Congressman next to their

33:54

name, or just because they have a

33:56

D next to their name, or just

33:58

because they're a doctor. just because they're a

34:00

scientist, that they know better than you, or they know

34:02

what's best for your kids, or they know what's best

34:05

for your household. It's a myth.

34:08

You don't have to be college-educated. You don't

34:10

have to have the highest IQ, as Joe

34:12

Biden would say. If you're a

34:15

good person and you have common sense, you should

34:17

never feel less than in front of any of

34:19

these people. I think that really bothered them about

34:21

Trump, is that that was kind

34:23

of a big charade that they were putting

34:25

out to the American people. We know so

34:27

much that is so, so complicated that none

34:29

of you dummies will ever understand. And Trump

34:31

shows up and he's like, try me. Let's

34:34

see. And since then, there's been a

34:36

lot of people like Trump popping up all over the country

34:38

who are going, you know, maybe I'll try. Why

34:41

not? It can't be that hard. And

34:44

honestly, maybe it is hard, but you guys

34:46

mess it up so bad, I can't really

34:48

do much worse than what you're doing. In

34:50

case you're wondering how I was going to New

34:52

York, I don't know who Menzies is, whether that's

34:55

a defendant or a lawyer, but they're reading from

34:57

Trump's book. So

34:59

that's what's going on in New York

35:01

right now. God, this is just a colossal- We're

35:03

reading from Donald Trump's book in the court right

35:05

now. So that's where that drives us. They're just running

35:08

out the clock. They're just trying to fill the day

35:10

so we can't campaign. All right, we'll be right

35:12

back with Howie Carr. Don't go anywhere. This is The

35:14

Grace Curley Show. The Grace Curley

35:16

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35:45

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on your order. Howie would you care to explain

36:14

to people because you're not really, I

36:17

wouldn't say until today Howie was a fan

36:19

of either Fireball or Pitbull the singer. He

36:21

was kind of unaware of both. Today

36:24

that I came, Pitbull scratched

36:26

the 40s on four from

36:28

the Sirius XM channel. It got bumped up

36:30

to the 70s and they

36:32

put, they said wait a second, what

36:35

happened to 40s on four? They gave him

36:37

his whole, they gave it to Pitbull. His

36:39

whole own channel? Four. I think

36:41

it's gone. I think they switched it to somebody else. He

36:43

is Mr. Worldwide, so if you're worldwide you have a lot of

36:45

songs. But tell people why we played Pitbull

36:47

coming in here. Give people a little rundown. Because

36:50

they were asking Chris

36:52

Albert, the selectman from

36:55

the town of Canton who did six months,

36:57

by the way, for killing a guy in an

37:00

auto accident and then he ran away

37:02

for two days for whatever reason before

37:04

turning himself in. So he's down drinking

37:06

at the bar the night the state,

37:08

the Boston cop is found dead and

37:11

he said what were you drinking? I

37:13

was drinking beer. And

37:15

then anything else? We ordered a

37:17

round of Fireball shooters.

37:20

Fireball.

37:22

Fireball, the guys killed somebody in an accident

37:25

and then he ran away for two days

37:27

and he's drinking. He's

37:29

Chicken Parm Charlie as

37:32

Turtle Boy calls him. You

37:34

know what the old saying

37:37

is, Grace? The family that

37:39

does Fireball shooters together dummies

37:42

up together. Yeah,

37:44

if you haven't guessed it by Howie's enthusiasm about this,

37:47

this took up a lot of our morning talking about

37:49

Fireball and then I told Howie, I said you know

37:51

there's a really good song for that by Pippl and

37:53

now it's been stuck in my head all day. Well

37:56

Fireball. The mailroom

37:58

manager, you know, she's not... into some of

38:00

the same stuff. She said, what's this big

38:03

thing about fireball? And I

38:05

said, you know, we walked by the other day

38:07

and there was a smashed up nip bottle. It's

38:09

big in the nip community. I said it was

38:11

like at least 30% of

38:13

the nips are fireball. You know what

38:16

people like to do at like football? Fireball

38:18

in the fall and in the winter is

38:20

huge. Like if you go to a football

38:22

game and everyone's cold, you put a little

38:24

fireball in your cider or in your little

38:26

drink and you stir it in and it's

38:28

like a hot toddy. Yeah.

38:30

Sweet though. Yeah, it's like the old days at Foley's. You

38:33

know, everybody would want to come home and just have beer

38:35

on their breath. So they would take it, they'd get a

38:37

shot, you pour it into the beer and then you down

38:39

it. Right,

38:41

right. More of this

38:44

and more of the Karen Reid stuff when Howie

38:46

comes back after the break. Don't

38:48

go anywhere. I'll see you all tomorrow for our

38:50

two GIF show. Thanks for listening. Fireball.