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into your story. Please Plug promote everything
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and anything in life. Oh geez Plug
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promote our well I have a have
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a I am going to Fly promote
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guess right now I have a
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book that came out and October seventh.
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I guess some of it now activism
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teens call the Great Falls Montana ah
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my post punk weird as until Coming
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Home again and basically about my it's
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a autobiography ends mostly centers around my
3:18
high. School experience and down the little
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bit in our past that but it's
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mostly focuses on my group friends from
3:25
high school so that that's out right
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now in get a wherever I would
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encourage, go to local bookstore, order from
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there and then I am. I have
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a special that I'm and be filming
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in March for the Beeps platform which
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is a new platform started by the
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two brothers who were and from Good
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Charlotte. Oh yeah yeah the ban their
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okay so they started this new and
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that subscription. Kind of our cart of
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platform weight related to twins Benji and
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and on of they're twins but they're
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brothers. They might be twins. I think
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they're Maryland guys out and might be
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wrong. The one of. Nicole Richie.
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Mccaw. Going around band ah it could be
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I don't know I don't know I mean
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I remember I just early and people getting
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involved in different things they get a network
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common the guy that yeah they get they
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they have been suspicious com that I think
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I think dave across as missile command are
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very hair and on the do and someone
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at the as some others some other people
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but they're getting like a bunch of comedians
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verve for specials and then they have at
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the bottom I'm confident and from be both
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and it's awesome music So live music performances
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on the Beeps platform sir should be pretty
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cool. It's brand new but. At least I get to
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make. I've been trying to make it. Do.
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A com special for years does or first
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one now so be my fourth. Okay let's
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say a yeah with the last one was
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like two thousand and fourteen. It's on Netflix
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so ah but yeah I'm stoked a now
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so I get to make and new special
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and I'm I'm real excited about that. so
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that's does it. Does the media things come
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that goofy? I want to ask you this.
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Just about a book in general has one
4:54
of my goals just I always feel like
4:56
I'll I just want to be published. I
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want to write something about my life or
5:00
whatever did you find it? Would you do
5:03
it again? Like writing a book.
5:05
I've talked to some a people and
5:07
summer fifty fifty like man it's so
5:09
much and it's a lot of work
5:11
in you know as it is it
5:13
like that grind where it's a passion
5:15
project more than anything else. Already find
5:17
that it was you know that a
5:20
hit you personally what was I mean
5:22
I you know I wasn't really interested
5:24
in reading a book in I I
5:26
I am. Yeah.
5:28
I just whenever I thought about writing book
5:31
it seemed like way to. It's just element,
5:33
just Mount Everest in front of the aisle.
5:35
I out think I can do that and
5:37
I'm not much of a reader. I'm in
5:40
a research a lot. I have read a
5:42
lot of research but I'm. Science
5:44
and art stuff but like I just I'm
5:46
not really reader. sounds like I don't have
5:48
on the rag added you know come out
5:51
about the then I thought about my life
5:53
story and and and. Wanted. To
5:55
make a film more serious about my
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high school experiences in Montana and eighty.
6:00
And so. My management ah
6:02
my team were like yeah, well in
6:04
about one the best ways to can
6:06
to help with that is to read
6:08
a book about it because then people
6:10
can read it and get a picture
6:12
of that possibility in the heads. and
6:14
so yeah, so that's how I went
6:16
and I got a Ghost rider. I'm
6:18
really really great guy is similar sensibilities
6:20
to me. I made sure a similar
6:22
age came from the Midwest and and
6:24
even though Great Falls, Montana's the west,
6:26
it's gonna mid west by a to
6:28
it's of and my dad's from Cleveland
6:30
said there's. A lot in common
6:32
with that writer and he's an amazing
6:35
writer and we work together to create
6:37
this book and ah I would definitely
6:39
do it again. I want to do
6:41
the next book on do is Seattle
6:43
Washington and then next one New York
6:45
New York's in next One Alley California.
6:47
So let's start by your life story
6:50
because I'm also curious why you chose
6:52
that high school chunk as I feel
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like if I know that will be
6:56
the jungle life court right about as
6:58
well. Yeah because so much happened to
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me in that time period. Good and
7:02
bad. Yeah, arm some curious Tommy little
7:04
bit about like where you grew up
7:06
in getting into Montana. Yeah I mean
7:08
I am. In a move there
7:11
from Europe my dad was in the military and
7:13
me move i'm of their when I was so
7:15
thick. Three and a half before you born in
7:17
Europe was born Europe where and Stuttgart. Ah,
7:20
Where they built porches. Susan Swell whether
7:22
the business after the forces and who
7:24
they actually build the forces and zoo.
7:27
Funhouse and butter? Yeah. so I was
7:29
born there. We moved around your at
7:31
my mother's French from France and. Yeah,
7:34
we ended up in Spain. from most to
7:36
that time that we're in Europe and then
7:38
them. Then move to
7:41
Ah Griff, also nineteen
7:43
seventy. Six. And
7:45
as a what age you hit pre
7:47
falls asic for thanks to those born
7:49
sony to so i mean what what
7:52
a difference. You know, Yeah,
7:54
for four years you're seeing all sorts
7:56
of people of race, color, everything. Yeah,
7:58
And you go to my. There are
8:00
Maginot persuaded as and over and so
8:02
I. It's like ninety eight percent having
8:05
ninety percent way. this is the populace
8:07
you look it up to says it's
8:09
crazy it's so wise say maybe a
8:11
bad idea breezes in a present by
8:14
the in either. funny because like do
8:16
it move in a great falls s
8:18
about Gaza far as against still may
8:20
may present me got like. Nine.
8:23
Black kids. Throughout. My school
8:25
think so. They could have fluctuated the could have
8:27
been like for one year and them like. but
8:29
how many in your actual greatest your thought about
8:31
your high school and my great grades? I don't
8:33
think I had. I
8:36
had looting Gomez who was Filipino.
8:38
Ah, I'm in my class.
8:41
I don't think I had another. There.
8:44
Was another black student. And
8:46
think so. I mean I mean your whole
8:48
high school class only two people of color
8:50
you and nestle no no no none has
8:52
gotten a this as elementary schools are elements
8:54
video here grade school there were probably some
8:57
other kids and lower grades but in my
8:59
actual class like I think lady was my
9:01
father the only person of color and then
9:03
made event and and they were lot of
9:05
like half year old kids. you know because
9:07
the base a Ghillie half green eyes as
9:10
out there was at my friend Tony Beard
9:12
way goes by Lou now but I'm in
9:14
high school when I met him his. Mother's
9:16
trying so he was halftime halfway
9:18
and so there's a lot of
9:21
like half white house European of
9:23
different ethnicities. I did that popped
9:25
up here and next month straight
9:28
up black students. I
9:30
mean what? yeah smell like eight or
9:32
seven and nine probably have any given
9:34
time served in our but at a
9:37
weird thing is like there was some
9:39
racism but. And. I maybe just
9:41
my memory maybe I'm to selectively like making
9:43
everything positive but like I didn't really have
9:45
that many problems. Ah I'm sure people were
9:47
being weird to me because of the way
9:49
I looked. by what can I chose not
9:52
to see it so I would just address
9:54
people to straight to their face like a
9:56
regular person. That's probably the most effective way
9:58
anyways because are just place where. The going
10:00
on here in is like our houses hanging
10:02
out with that time down there diaz seventy
10:04
as shipments was ah ok well yoga it
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may be innovators forget with the aim heart
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attack they like his spam and was supposed
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was my to have a number of get
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out every bit as like our families. Fuck.
10:18
Knows how many As I get a huge
10:20
conversation with his wife's accept my last fight
10:22
I oppose my one chance to not that
10:24
many of them and deaths. Of
10:27
these fat a look for yeah I know.
10:30
And they many of them have a good congress's our
10:32
know what's going on here, maps or me. Bells was.
10:35
An accident. Raise.
10:39
it's crazy. That's an interesting thought to
10:41
think too like you're a lot of
10:43
people's probably first black friend. That's true
10:45
the I'd never the i never thought
10:47
of it however younger Mr oh she
10:49
totally to yeah I mean yeah an
10:51
answer So I'm sorry your mom's French
10:53
born in France as did they meet
10:56
over and European military so then you
10:58
guys all come back to the states.
11:00
Why there's a base? there is an
11:02
Airforce base Malmstrom and then do you
11:04
live there in Montana from the what
11:06
four years old till till till I
11:08
gradually get out. Yeah okay yeah with
11:10
that like I mean honestly by a
11:12
now you get past elementary school yeah
11:14
school and stuff as high schools were
11:17
really yeah. as it was way back
11:19
via I was stoked by school as.
11:21
Super. Red and early move and through school
11:23
with all the same guys all the way through
11:25
so you can only hear yeah i'd say like
11:28
that ravi eighty percent of the people you in
11:30
school with you still in school with as you
11:32
move up to those gray and how big your
11:34
like gum high school yet a big school lot
11:36
a kid it was ethic thirteen hundred kids. Thirteen.
11:39
Hundred and not miasma. Small thought. taxes are
11:41
a thing that really gets a we were
11:44
a Maryland. yeah I mean I've met friends
11:46
and like three thousand kids. Nine or thirty
11:48
five hundred mean a bigger bite your tongue
11:50
malik, east coast or more. he's bigger cities
11:53
but are we have We also another high
11:55
school across town which was really is perfectly.
11:57
Now we have like a rival I school.
12:00
They were banning roughly about same size
12:02
like eleven hundred twelve on a good.
12:04
So we're like rival sports teams and
12:06
you know they lived across the river
12:08
In a a is to cannot perfect
12:10
you couldn't get. It it felt like.
12:13
If. There was a real live Sims
12:15
game like. Great. Balls as a
12:17
Sim City areas perfect you elect. Okay, where's
12:19
this plot of land? It's next to a
12:22
rivers. Okay, we'll see what was it. Went
12:24
to rebuild their well as Villa damn there
12:26
and get some Power Guy article on the
12:28
So As neighborhoods here. Ah and O's mixture
12:30
rail lines are coming to the enough rail
12:32
lines and nam he will start a smelter
12:35
read every year on the river or start
12:37
melting copper and maybe this will be like
12:39
the trade route of the west. You know
12:41
they'll be like skog of the west. Everything
12:43
comes through here are now it's the great
12:45
Depression heads are certain. Than the government's like we
12:48
should for the base here in like a with
12:50
him for the air force base here was the
12:52
Airforce our know it's new assignment and fifty six
12:54
as well as League of Legends and and make
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ends meet up for debate by the okay get
12:58
I'll have a cannery A we are games that
13:00
a cannery earlier than a healthy and guess you
13:02
know whatever but like an international airports like. It's.
13:05
Just. it's very it's It's cute. It's
13:07
just like a contained town. Like you
13:09
drive fifteen minutes any direction from the
13:11
center of town and year out of
13:13
the town. Sounds like it's a snow
13:15
globe town. Yeah, totally. That's a perfect
13:18
way of thinking that. Yeah, that's exactly.
13:20
That's because you're like here's a city
13:22
and then use He literally just drive
13:24
and suddenly wheat fields and because they're
13:26
sitting out. I think there's a city
13:28
buying. This was Turner I as city.
13:30
So this it's it's. a very contains
13:32
the closest major city. And
13:34
how far as it. I. Mean. Does
13:38
I mean the me A Majors? The I
13:40
mean that probably a bigger city would have
13:42
been buildings which were the been. One.
13:45
Hundred and twenty thousand so would have
13:47
been like twice the population growth Us.
13:50
So. that's the biggest said the in downtown
13:52
feelings and whitefish have been now see i
13:54
believe was your farther out the now where
13:56
where it right in the middle iron so
13:58
it's like it's like said enter slightly
14:01
west, right in the
14:03
middle of the state. And then, yeah,
14:05
and then we have Missoula, which is kind of
14:07
down, we have Bozeman, Billings, those
14:10
are the biggest cities in Montana. And
14:12
it's different. We went to a karaoke, well, we went
14:14
to a bar that I didn't know they had karaoke.
14:16
It wasn't necessary. Let me, let me backtrack here. We
14:18
went to a local bar and it
14:20
wasn't karaoke. It was a local band. And Whitefish?
14:23
Yeah. And this guy was the son-in-law
14:26
of the dude who owned it. So
14:28
he had to play. And
14:30
he was not great at all, but everybody's
14:32
out there country line dancing and stuff. And
14:34
the wall, the three walls all
14:37
the way around, you probably, maybe you've been
14:39
there. And I'm not exaggerating when
14:41
I say this. It's a stuffed buffalo.
14:43
Yeah, of course. It's a fucking ram.
14:45
Yeah. I mean, it's man.
14:47
The wall. It's an, it looked like
14:49
the fucking Smithsonian, like with the little,
14:52
like tumbleweed behind it. It made
14:54
a little display. And it's just
14:56
massive animals all the way
14:58
around. I was like, holy shit. This
15:00
is different. Yeah. Did you
15:02
hunt and fish up there? I, you know, I tried.
15:05
I think I went duck hunting once with
15:08
my, luckily my neighbors across the street. That's
15:10
actually something I don't think I gave them
15:12
enough credit for. I
15:14
was really thankful. My neighbors across the street, they
15:17
were, they were from North Dakota originally. And I
15:19
don't know what religion they were, but I think
15:21
that they were like some kind of,
15:24
kind of subsect Christian religion of
15:27
some sort. Never quite found out,
15:29
but his name was Robbie and we were friends and
15:31
we would play Star Wars all the time. And he
15:33
had like an older sister that was kind
15:35
of a bad, a bad girl, which later it's like
15:37
she wasn't a bad girl. So he's just like, love
15:40
having adventures, you know, but back when we were kids
15:42
are like, oh, she's doing stuff you're not supposed to,
15:44
you know, so she's bad. But
15:46
we, yeah, we played Star Wars. We
15:49
had so much fun together and his father went fishing
15:51
a lot. So we'd go fishing and
15:53
they're little, you know, truck bed camper.
15:55
And we'd all had our, you know, dad took the
15:58
upper one and then we had like the two sides.
16:00
beds and get up early in the morning, get in
16:02
the boat and go fishing. So, I went fishing a
16:04
lot. I didn't mind that but when
16:06
we went duck hunting once, I was not
16:09
feeling that. And luckily, we
16:11
didn't get any ducks. They got nothing that day and
16:13
I was so stoked because I just, even
16:16
though I ate meat, like the killing
16:18
of the animal, I could
16:20
just and it sucks because it's like I'm
16:23
a hypocrite, you know, like I enjoy chicken
16:25
but like, well, actually, I did kill
16:27
a chicken once in France. I worked in a market
16:29
when I was visiting my relatives and I would
16:32
like just get
16:34
the cat here first. Yeah, you just pick him up
16:36
and he'd... Oh, this thing wasn't running the neck chasing.
16:38
No, no, it was just like in a cage and
16:40
you really do just snap them. And you're holding it
16:42
by the feet and you're like this for this much
16:44
money and I figured out a way to kind of
16:46
bypass that, you know, that like I
16:48
don't want to kill something and I did it
16:51
like for a day or two and I was
16:53
like, I can't do this anymore.
16:55
So, that was as close as I got.
16:57
So, as a Montana and maybe my fellow
16:59
Montana friends are like, oh, what a wish
17:02
but like I just, I wasn't but I
17:04
mean, I'd go into my friend's garage and
17:06
there'd be an elk hanging from the rafters,
17:08
you know, with the horn still
17:10
on and the antler still and, you know, tons
17:13
of cardboard on the floor and like, you know,
17:15
everyone has a deep freezer. They'll have a gun
17:17
room. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, buddy took me
17:19
down a gun room and he opened it up
17:21
and it wasn't just guns. It was, it was
17:23
moose and elk antlers. Yeah. Just on the floor
17:26
and shit. Yeah. What are you doing with these?
17:28
I know. I know. But it's just like, it's
17:30
that, it's that hunting culture that just like, I
17:32
don't know what it is, you know, you just,
17:34
it just does the way that it is. But
17:36
I used to go to school, kids had guns
17:39
on in the gun racks in their trucks. Yeah.
17:41
And so, I want to
17:43
say it was my freshman year was 87 and
17:46
then everything changed after that. Last year, I'm
17:48
a freshman in high school. It was the last year we
17:50
actually had a smoking lounge in the school. Wow.
17:52
We had a room where if you're 18
17:55
or I always say, or had shit trash
17:57
parents, You could smoke in there. The
18:00
and then there was the racks. You you
18:02
couldn't come with a Pistorius, they sort of.
18:04
You drove in and you had the gun
18:06
rack back here and you had a shock
18:08
on our rifle in there. Nobody said a
18:10
word. I know. And. They weren't even
18:12
lot Now I was literally to walk
18:14
in and go Louis Yeah yeah I
18:16
can blue the aptly at ammunition and
18:18
because everybody seventeen and fucking dumb Yes
18:20
yeah now yeah as your and never had
18:22
an incident, never ever had an incident.
18:24
Whenever a kids will have knives in
18:26
a pocket knives like know once in
18:28
Montana everybody's go nice. I mean most
18:30
what makes sense in a nice I
18:32
still carry a knife. I always happen if
18:35
I was of a knife in a
18:37
flash sideways as like only boy scouts
18:39
it but ah. He just have
18:41
a knife and you can look at any by
18:43
his pocket and you'll see that worn down spyware,
18:45
some clip in their knife or whatever and
18:47
it's just a normal thing or sometimes you a
18:50
buck. Knives you know they're like hang up the
18:52
house where this and no one ever says anything
18:54
like ours in Missoula. For a punk festival of
18:56
these to have every year was Socal called
18:58
Total Fast and it's no longer bus amazing bands
19:01
would show up there and need to have like.
19:03
Be. Was walking out of bars with their
19:05
for pint glasses of beer. just walk
19:08
and across the street. Big ass knives
19:10
hanging that's unlike. The. Sec and
19:12
then and then when and then when people have
19:14
that these a. Misunderstandings
19:16
about and people live in cities
19:18
and. In of people
19:20
you'd classify as liberal and deeply classifies
19:23
as conservative or which to me is
19:25
all bunch of fucking bullshit but ah,
19:27
They. Don't understand their like weapons dangerous and
19:29
so again it's true. However if you go to
19:32
Montana like in Missoula in you got a knife
19:34
and you walk around with your plant them science
19:36
like. Of course they're going to be like now.
19:38
They're not dangerous. Because. We live in
19:41
it every day and when when am
19:43
friends with it? But then someone in
19:45
the cities like yeah, when someone gets
19:47
stabbed yesterday and some psycho when I
19:49
was like yeah, but this to different
19:51
areas, two different styles of being so
19:53
there can't be a blanket solution for
19:55
everything. And he also said a keyword
19:57
in are some psycho yes is Not
19:59
normal people. Walking around town enjoying responsibly
20:01
piazza yeah going an alcoholic beverage yes, exam
20:03
or people who can drink and have a
20:06
weapon the Us and do nothing with it
20:08
a hundred percent. all except for the go
20:10
home with it's a yes Exactly out of
20:12
there. Are you like me to whittle some
20:15
Yeah site already in new cities? Are you
20:17
know I? I just made me think some
20:19
least it like I grew up and in
20:22
I'm from Baltimore as a but after a
20:24
while we moved out to the county say
20:26
and it was country is shit out there.
20:28
yeah and I remember Redneck. Dude taken their
20:31
butter knife caddies maybe thing as a ever
20:33
seen my cut their nails always. Yeah I'd
20:35
say madame ever has got his Watson's I'm
20:37
like are you near fuck Amazing games. Could
20:40
mom or my hat with a buck? Yeah
20:42
I know because it's like you're it's a
20:44
girl in oh it's like the modern day
20:47
version of of it Alec at night or
20:49
something like in the middle school I had
20:51
a dagger in our yeah thanks and like
20:53
you just haven't met with a few. Tula
20:56
wasn't like he Matt Smith's when we see
20:58
a weapon yeah I mean if. You have
21:00
a tactical switchblade over there. was like. that's what
21:02
I liked carry but likes it. but I just
21:04
like it because convenient. That's like. It's
21:06
the blade as out the blade is gone
21:09
like back in my pocket. I like it
21:11
for convenience bus but I'm not thinking like
21:13
this thing would kill some people time. dislike
21:15
of the cool tools and all my friends
21:17
are that way. So in our it's it's
21:19
funny my liberal friends I guess you'd call
21:22
him liberal in Montana that are just about
21:24
like treating people fairly. I guess that's liberal.
21:28
Democrat liberal at At at At is still.
21:30
I smell everybody. I really do whatever they
21:32
want to know amplifies that Yet at Liberal
21:35
there. but their life with. Is still like
21:37
nice to on my god are still on my
21:39
knives like the I am for gamers are not
21:41
what does not want to say I did They
21:43
are as good as I got. Want to belittle?
21:46
I like it's techno of god to get a
21:48
stamp I can I can do silencer, I can
21:50
do suppressor whatever it it was like okay that's
21:52
good but the balances makes sense. They're really go
21:55
camels like with you you know fuck with me
21:57
and great done rights but eyes of most of
21:59
my friends. Calm down. Like from Montana were visiting
22:01
L A. They're kind of. Their. Tripped
22:03
out by like everyone's hypersensitivity does. But
22:05
I'm not against that because it's just
22:07
a product of the environments like mean
22:09
own I think about grown up in
22:11
Montana, I'm lucky as all at well
22:14
One we grew up in a time
22:16
I think the best time to grab
22:18
ever have personally. and it's not nearly
22:20
as being like a pre boomer whatever
22:22
but like. It's
22:24
being able to like have that freedom like going
22:26
to school, the pocket knife, being on a will
22:28
stuff in on the playground after whatever and then
22:30
the know the alcohol thing like you were tied
22:32
in their dogma Canada was like up you know
22:35
so if you're like seventeen, have a fake id
22:37
or every good my crew that there are thing
22:39
in Canada the time it was maybe. It.
22:42
Was me be sixteen is something of
22:44
a new as we would go up
22:46
there sorry I didn't but friends or
22:48
go there to go drinking i wasn't
22:50
big drinkers I got there could drink
22:53
it's take road trips by yourself. No
22:55
cellphones are a lot of responsibility to
22:57
can arrays yourself in many ways. Ah
22:59
and. Montana. Itself is
23:01
being wide open. Possibilities like we go
23:03
hiking on the weekend, hails, go backpacking
23:05
up in mountains, just two or three
23:08
friends with backpacks. In the winter it's
23:10
like freezing in our parents as drop
23:12
us off and gay we'll see in
23:14
three days. really. Oh yeah, Our.
23:16
Time tell me I'm a solemn a high schools
23:19
as I'm curious like where do you party guys
23:21
don't feel parties if you don't have a house
23:23
I imagined feel Bars of Pride for yeah vague
23:25
in Montana. I mean for like the popular kids
23:27
like them up most of the the. The.
23:31
Yeah, third average party kids were would
23:33
definitely be out in field somewhere. Nebulae
23:36
Auto by Ryan Ryan Damn ah okay
23:38
was Gilbert's Go Ryan dance or out
23:40
in this field? Sigma Tic first right
23:42
here in and take left didn't sign.
23:44
we're going pillow thing they're see now
23:46
that it's are saying it's when I'm.
23:50
So. That would be at but then
23:52
some as would have house parties or when I
23:54
when I met my new group of friends i'm
23:56
Metallic post punk weirdo friends like my skater friends
23:58
may be a max. The my road
24:00
bike in friends the you know the girls
24:03
were like listen to seizing the banshee is
24:05
and like although the dark off stuff and
24:07
that crew like we always found around places
24:09
so we'd party in caves We other these
24:12
caves that we found that we would like
24:14
party and tie case on animals probably in
24:16
their rights glint they weren't they weren't our
24:18
natural caves. The remaining chow said read so
24:21
call them caves. bet they were like gray
24:23
as a granite mine and old granny months
24:25
and we have to sneak there because there's
24:28
a house to lived across the dirt. Road
24:30
from it because they wind up a pretty
24:32
steep hill and are like these cliff faces
24:34
and some I was actually in the how
24:36
and they began and a porcelain had dogs
24:38
so sorry that was a park really far
24:40
away and then cut into the land along
24:43
the cliff face and then just like quietly
24:45
make our way there for the got dogs
24:47
and barks but you know we'd go there
24:49
there be a person stand up parents are
24:51
ab towns so we go to that house
24:53
or my mom was cool with having the
24:55
kids like hang on the back yard and
24:57
park in the fran like we hang out
24:59
the basement. Smoking masks my mom as a
25:02
smoker and really yeah I didn't like adding
25:04
like my mom so my pants why Me
25:06
my friends smoke outside but sometimes my friends
25:08
would be upstairs smoke and with my mom
25:10
talking to her arm and. It.
25:12
Was just like. I know is it
25:14
was chill. We could party wherever like we
25:16
we had. We. Had options or we'd
25:19
go rid of friends are six times in the
25:21
middle of winter. Be like we're going to Bozeman
25:23
so how long as we get a to dry
25:25
them about four hours? May. Do have
25:27
for by force. Now. It on a
25:29
for by force all this like be as like people
25:31
are like a gotta have an s U V after
25:33
before by foreign all these people like. Going.
25:36
Hard core and four by four. As I
25:38
live out in the mountains, I'm any four
25:40
of us either Were no eighteen eyes, He
25:42
did. Not at all. Right now. eighteen, I.
25:45
My friend had run know twelve. Or
25:48
older at night because ever free had french mom's
25:51
the like the friend's mom's at friends cars. It
25:54
up and we had a Renault
25:56
Zero sum game or other said
25:58
yeah no swells. A
26:00
lot of our lives a couple of you
26:02
are looking for a robot course it's already
26:04
that car got around to Montana in the
26:06
with their easy that little friends movie or
26:09
a liquor is a sling isn't Rear wheel
26:11
drive will drown it while he has a
26:13
front wheel drive and least for when he
26:15
would. fucking good isn't as well as we
26:17
went on the freeways and you know we
26:19
had dinner with put on scenes in our
26:21
never bus that carted mirror saw this like
26:23
all this like a gonna be I up
26:25
and I got out of four by four
26:27
and thirty inches a clearance on the isn't
26:29
bunch of garbage. Unless you actually live
26:31
up a super steep grade and rocks,
26:33
are you gonna ryanair that egg? I
26:35
get it right by. Like this whole
26:37
fascination, few others receiving them. Montana like
26:39
the was not from Montana movie Montana
26:41
I knew drug. Like an insect
26:43
Man, you know what do you have
26:45
a hall and sit barely hi? It's
26:47
like becomes a neighborhood dumpsters. Astros? I
26:49
now only two hours. Garbage. As good
26:51
as it's like, Analysts rock on a
26:53
nice cabin. They can put my friends
26:55
comfortably and and we can just like
26:57
that drive and have a comfortable Ryan's
26:59
Sucks Mack comfortable rats bus Amos that
27:01
my dad try. Besides yeah we were
27:03
just like we had so much freedom
27:05
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back to the do so what
28:09
was it did hit you and
28:11
impacted you and such a way
28:13
the you decide to write this
28:15
book about that chunk of your
28:18
life what's going on at that
28:20
time I mean. You.
28:22
Know a good time? Is it a mixture
28:24
of both? Now me? I mean for the
28:26
most part it was great because I was.
28:28
you know. Luckily again, perfect timing. When I
28:30
was in junior you I might have had
28:32
the same timing but when I was in
28:34
junior high. Ah, Sixteen
28:37
candles came up. Sixteen
28:39
candles was. Awesome!
28:41
There was nothing else like it Mike
28:43
and I'm ever seen in the movie theater.
28:45
I was an hour or hour. The fourteen
28:47
or whatever in this as fourteen. Went.
28:50
To a matinee as like a free ticket or
28:52
something. like if you're under age you getting go
28:54
to this thing for free and I went to
28:56
the matinee. My mom is drop me off all
28:58
time to see many as as any for an
29:00
hour doesn't exist the moment I went there. Three.
29:03
Caught in the afternoon. no kids in there
29:05
are a while. Like. Two other
29:07
kids in their says like three people
29:09
watching this movie and it blew my
29:12
mind. I was like holy crap this
29:14
is man matching if him he could
29:16
it be like that kid? could life
29:18
be like this? And the music was
29:20
cool? yeah kids are interesting and weird
29:22
and Joan Qq had you know head
29:24
gear on and couldn't drink. I was
29:26
drinking bounce it was. It was awesome
29:29
and disliking out a getting underwear and
29:31
like my in I'm I'm my own.down
29:33
long Dogwoods I've met that guy on
29:35
the real life. Yes yeah he's. He's
29:37
amazing is really sweet. But
29:39
he has incredible incredible say it's
29:41
so funny to my daughter. She's
29:44
nine now the last year she had does
29:46
not in her hair that like. The hairdresser
29:49
spent three hours as I can't get the
29:51
A and I'm like what are we gonna
29:53
do and the hairdressers like my eyes on
29:55
like with a sixth. he gets a straight
29:57
up we as a member. So yeah outdoors
29:59
I thought it. My god he's like I
30:01
can thought that shrunk but I can do my
30:03
best. The layer like areas around here don't look
30:05
like to thank you. Know that they do cotter.
30:07
fuck am I gonna take them? I should. I
30:09
know I see a hit. His
30:13
his so far budget ah were
30:15
wearing a suit or are you
30:17
do like this is or validate
30:19
your hair is So while it's
30:21
of ads amazing for that movie
30:24
was like crazy like so super
30:26
inspirational and that prepared me for
30:28
high school. So now. As they are
30:30
about to go into has Gone, this movie
30:32
came out exactly the right time. I. You
30:35
know, Got. A nice Cornell's Ai
30:37
and then I school breakfast club came
30:39
out. And
30:41
then you had Ferris Bueller day off. He.
30:44
Had are some town a wonderful. Ah,
30:47
Three o'clock high. Ah, Off
30:49
I had or off dead better
30:51
off dead Stillness I mean like
30:53
body and three iclei hi I'm
30:55
better off them with are still
30:57
two dollars I mean is still
30:59
our friends and I renowned and
31:01
him via with yeah hundred dollars
31:03
ah soon as it did the
31:05
perfect Howard Cosell oh my yes
31:07
perfect here we are Disaster finish
31:09
line again we have Lane A
31:11
know how it ever hits the
31:13
air made it was amazing The
31:15
puts on the fucking the bed,
31:17
the dishwashing gloves, And.
31:19
For the car in reverse so obvious it
31:22
was also lessen. Their bills are also an
31:24
hour. weird science which I was like thirteen
31:26
times. So all of those movies as all
31:29
About To, Nancy, Mental Health, and yeah of
31:31
course and Robert Downey do any. I went
31:33
to Snl together for a one of those
31:35
down sees. That's right, that area. I mean
31:38
I was a huge phenomena back and in
31:40
teenagers. Never had a thing like that before.
31:43
He had like. Portuguese.
31:45
Was like yeah yeah but now some we
31:47
we've been a little younger I was I
31:49
was done now see a little bit me
31:51
and for that is these gym.yeah yeah yeah
31:53
was a law can see the girls were
31:55
and whereas like excuse movies were more about
31:58
the. What? Were the. Girls
32:00
thinking about in around our what were the
32:02
guys the game or really worried about two
32:04
girls underpants look yeah what they are not
32:06
like we're not peak in in and see ambush
32:08
in the shower for teeth now now it
32:10
was mystery there he was like mr said
32:12
it was also of sir if if there
32:14
was silly and it was a heightened it's
32:16
weird that Door of Loud have a nominee. I
32:18
felt like I rather. Which
32:21
is kind. It's true, it's like if that
32:24
were to happen meddling everything this every
32:26
match. any luck as as a foyer like
32:28
are now or whatever. but do. In the
32:30
trunk cause some big muscular guy said that's where
32:32
you're going to undergo this party. They're funny kids
32:34
and lay are there are no no yes that's
32:36
right our of young that is where you don't
32:38
know. I mean. Yeah, so mean
32:40
we have all this light colored cultural
32:43
instruction. Like the possibilities were laid out
32:45
in these films. An arm and when
32:47
I got. An eight at
32:49
the guy had that experience and I
32:51
school. It really felt like I got
32:53
to experience those movies. I lived those
32:55
bits of those movies in high school
32:57
with my friends and we had incredible
32:59
adventures and we learned about. Each.
33:01
Other And yeah, they were like some dark
33:03
things, but we were there for each other
33:06
and we got ourselves through some. In
33:08
l some heaviness with. Cool,
33:11
responsible, weirdo, psychedelic partying in
33:13
our and an amazing music
33:15
and so that's I wanted
33:18
to Can have. To. Capture
33:20
that and transmit in to have a document
33:22
of it. But I really am still making
33:24
and into film series because I think you'd
33:27
be cool to see that like you know
33:29
what was it like to hang out and
33:31
you don't have an end of his seat?
33:33
Every every comedian probably wants to do a
33:36
movie about their Haskell experience with freaks and
33:38
geeks you know. Prime example by think like
33:40
mine would. Be. A cool angle
33:42
like you know, A I think
33:45
goods enough weird things happen that I don't
33:47
think people even believe happened yet. But they
33:49
did. In ounce like that's to those the
33:51
product of the time. We were able to do
33:53
that and your dad a military met like a
33:55
lifer. see in the military for a career man
33:57
he was. He was in the Air force eve.
34:00
Hired when I was like. Like. Nine
34:02
or something like that. I'm. So
34:04
yeah he was. Yeah, he retired from
34:06
the Airforce, but he was in the
34:08
Army before the air daily switch to
34:10
the Air Force out while. And
34:12
then your mom what does she do
34:15
See when we first got to Montana
34:17
she's sold Avon A M you are
34:19
taken such as allow for a while
34:22
since I remember seeing my mom and
34:24
her friends would sell that shit again
34:26
Tupperware, our all these part products and
34:28
now tons of box mouse and and
34:31
people come over and like up by
34:33
than of yeah that the I hear
34:35
yeah and they would our or she
34:38
would go door to door. Selling
34:40
Avon stood that and then she got
34:42
into a cleaning houses for the for
34:45
the air force base. So she was
34:47
a housing house cleaning or cleaning contractor
34:49
and she became like the best and
34:52
on the base so as he was
34:54
constantly working as is such a hard
34:56
worker so she'd get up at like
34:59
four in the morning and would be
35:01
off to go do a house in
35:03
high end dance and come back at
35:05
like unifies. In. The afternoon
35:08
when I be I'd already be
35:10
home from school and ah yes
35:12
she worked her ass off and
35:14
but she loved at getting cool
35:16
stuff in. Also see was ordering
35:19
cool porcelain be address statues and
35:21
in our cool furniture and says
35:23
if she worked really hard and.
35:26
Was one of the providers for thousand. Him and
35:28
dad provided my mom for Reddit where they they
35:30
were together the entire time they were together until
35:32
I was. Turned. Thirteen I started
35:34
getting to almost fights with my
35:37
dad's a lot of resistance you?
35:39
yeah? why? Because. He was
35:41
a. He. Well
35:43
he came from mud disciplinary
35:46
in households Are you being.
35:49
In the Black community in Cleveland,
35:51
Ohio and his father lost his
35:54
father when he was younger. arms
35:56
father was murdered. And
35:58
then and then. Here in in
36:01
his new stepfather was very strict and
36:03
religious like baptist and so I think
36:05
you just and his mother his grandma
36:07
or is my his mother was also
36:09
very strict as well so I think
36:11
he came from than he was trying
36:13
to use that method on me but
36:15
I was calico smart ass. In
36:17
Gear. That was always training get in
36:19
and out of staff by been tricky
36:21
and. I. The
36:23
was just anti authoritarian. It also
36:26
when he started. Trying. To get
36:28
up in my face Value doing staffs
36:30
as I resisting more and more. And
36:32
then I got your point where my
36:34
mom thought like. This. Kid get
36:36
bad so I'm going to send them away
36:38
and so she sent my dad away and
36:41
so they cure. It.
36:43
Is ago and so he liked it. A divorce
36:45
are seen as like you gotta get out He
36:47
makes this isn't believe in divorce but they it
36:49
is like you can't be in this and can
36:51
be in this house So he i think he
36:53
ended up. Going to school from
36:55
our Business management in Arizona and as
36:57
a he went there and then he
37:00
ended up moving to Cleveland because his
37:02
mother was getting older said time.aura or
37:04
a huge he needed to be that
37:06
adapted care of his his mother. And
37:09
I would go visit him on. you know
37:11
summer isn't an sometimes he'd come to great
37:13
falls for like Christmas with you go back
37:16
and as he goes guitar on her part
37:18
of it is kind of crazy nina to
37:20
like be a parenting got like i'm making
37:22
this decision and you gotta go yeah you
37:25
got ago I love you bet. Is
37:27
as we got it. but also he
37:29
didn't stay local. He decided I don't
37:31
want to go yet. He really went.
37:33
Me was that he really rely on
37:35
yeah is like I'm at a it's
37:37
but I'm glad. I mean I I
37:39
don't think I wouldn't I wouldn't I
37:41
wouldn't have wanted him to stay Ike.
37:43
I've got a little bit more freedom
37:45
and and I love my mom in
37:47
a even as You and Your Mom
37:49
Jemima months and now as you and
37:51
your Mom at this point from what
37:53
eighth grade, Ninth grade on? Yeah, yeah.
37:56
So basically junior high and. High school.
37:58
My dad wasn't there. He came for graduation. Obviously
38:00
and then he stayed you say obviously and
38:02
I'm a people said that shared a medieval
38:04
don't show up for a wedding graduates of
38:06
yeah I do that law that as soon
38:09
as a loss he he was cool. I
38:11
mean I will say that like I say
38:13
he did the best he could with what
38:15
he had and he was of bet he
38:18
was in Vietnam. He. Had Ptsd.
38:21
There's. A lot of sick on our that guy
38:23
side so even when I think about him today
38:25
I'm never your mom. probably dead cert your mom
38:27
probably really did your favor ceiling you from Tanya
38:29
that totally awesome. So then you're just you and
38:32
your mom. But you say your mom's working all
38:34
times who are latch key kid he does lend
38:36
itself in an hour you guys sort of siege
38:38
other for dinner and yelling and that's about it.
38:40
Are you in the airports in the moon is
38:42
akin stuff all way or you always home pretty
38:45
are now of us didn't Music I mean. I
38:48
started. taking violin
38:50
lessons, In fifth grade sank with
38:53
a Lindell idiots and that see
38:55
taught the stringed instruments i think
38:57
another teacher taught horns and woodwinds
38:59
and and then timpani and stuff
39:02
like that. and then in junior
39:04
high I was an orchestra so
39:06
there was nice to program and
39:08
as as north or extra junior
39:10
high and I was also Nordstrom
39:13
High school and side to that
39:15
but I also studied piano from
39:17
age five to sixteen classical piano,
39:19
private lessons. With a crew
39:22
students that we all grow was that a
39:24
family fingers at some you want to do
39:26
like the Time or Nebulae where they musically
39:28
inclined not and own house. They love music
39:31
know they'd they'd My dad played a
39:33
little saxophone when he was a teenager with
39:35
now said he is a big enough Charlie
39:37
Parker fanbase in I'd gotten the military and
39:40
into that but they always loved music. They
39:42
loved hanging out, partying and in on showing
39:44
life with ala. They loved him very much
39:46
so I took to it and I really
39:49
liked is very natural and. Yeah,
39:51
so I studied tons of music
39:53
and got involved in his many
39:56
after school or extra Chris curricular
39:58
programs possible. I did. You.
40:00
Know speech and debate little bit. I did.
40:03
Spam. There
40:05
was a art classes now know
40:07
just random shit I was. I
40:10
was trying out everything. I just
40:12
loved being social and. Trying.
40:14
Stassen being involved in stuff
40:16
and still. Film
40:19
relatively the same for Used to is
40:21
it either way that I'm so soft
40:23
bed status is it was actually perfect
40:25
timing. All of it worked out having
40:27
that extra time, the having really good
40:29
programs in school to get involved in
40:31
if you wanted to him and because
40:33
the school system at that time was
40:35
very well funded. And
40:37
we had access to whatever we
40:40
need as kids is awesome! So.
40:43
When you you get you graduate in the
40:46
newly mom stays in Montana yeah and dad
40:48
is where now back in Cleveland email he
40:50
moves back to Montana He comes back year
40:52
after his mom passes ah your grandma what
40:55
my grandma didn't pass till later but ah
40:57
but he moved back like as soon as
40:59
I graduated basically to be with your mom
41:01
or not he did miss they got back
41:03
together be of course they never worth of
41:06
course now we here than the aboard an
41:08
alley voyeurs the Aids he just said i'm
41:10
away now that the so he comes back
41:12
and out there a couple. Again yeah okay
41:15
Enema that worry me out that work
41:17
out skates and me but he's also
41:19
getting sicker. He gets fussy my head
41:21
like some heart operations. You know he's
41:23
just for the smokers that he was.
41:25
I am now I'm out here. Guys
41:27
ever saw very heavy drinker. Ah
41:30
not heavy drug I have to use now
41:32
colleague but they definitely enjoyed alcohol and ever
41:34
saw my parents like sloshed or anything like
41:36
that puts they enjoyed it so you know
41:39
and also have been a deep fried foods
41:41
and salt and all the stuff that's not
41:43
the best for your system. So
41:46
yeah, so he was also. I go a bit
41:48
sick in any aim. Was. Slowing down
41:50
and in own. Ah,
41:53
When. He moved back here. Ah.
41:58
And and I guess you would have been in his fifties. Young
42:00
those and guess like May fifty five minutes
42:02
and is your mom take care of? I'm
42:05
pretty much. The. Yeah, emmy not. it
42:07
wasn't that severe mean he was still like
42:09
moving around and working and doing housework as
42:11
of, but it just got worse as you
42:13
get older like in the seventies am. In.
42:16
Out to started emphysema got worse and
42:18
is have a hard time breathing and
42:20
I think he died When is a
42:22
D in his eighties? Eighty two some
42:25
play that eighty once an hour. Yeah.
42:27
Just a just. In our just all. The
42:30
heaped upon him and. We
42:32
now to sit and away our emphysema mean
42:34
I know you don't get rid of it
42:36
but it's just a slow burn for some
42:39
people on it just eventually just choked out
42:41
yeah businesses yeah they to the of the
42:43
along stop being. Flexible
42:45
an arm and elastic a malleable. select
42:48
the to she gets really hard and
42:50
it gets harder and harder to breathe.
42:52
Hazards Tone for snooze on oxygen In
42:54
Out and out Nips. It just takes
42:56
all in. All your energy away
42:58
in also and then in turn in
43:01
cancer and so now he died. yeah
43:03
I'm in the hospital my mom was
43:05
there thankfully but egg he died on
43:07
his birthday which is now that I'm
43:09
a birthday party it's like a few
43:11
days early and I had to do
43:13
a gig in Chicago and it it
43:15
against cardinals going to come back and
43:17
then my called the hospital they're like
43:19
yeah he passed away with saying on
43:21
his birthday says insane how and eighty
43:24
two one is iq eighty one eighty
43:26
nine on a second burst. Yeah
43:28
says suck and insane. An hour and
43:30
my mom died. She predicted she would
43:32
die in November. Now come home and
43:34
it out while any mean seized. So
43:36
when you're when you dad I was
43:38
what months? It. Was
43:40
me. A fourth.
43:43
And are you saying your mom predicted she
43:45
died Nov that same year or else he
43:47
predicted her mother earth when she would die
43:49
as you with the and she died many
43:51
many years later My dad was like eighty
43:53
him and in when I was thirty four
43:55
so I say says a while ago. But
43:58
I'm. So. She. But.
44:00
When in out those she died
44:02
last year and. Or I
44:04
guess yeah lesser yep it's stare Last
44:06
year and maybe five months before she
44:08
died she was like i think i'm
44:10
gonna die in november and will see
44:13
sick at that point or yes she
44:15
was she's not she's wasn't feeling well
44:17
but he just and there was like
44:19
up a bunch of things going on
44:21
and like com and she was also
44:23
just tired know when I came back
44:25
as my at the woman who's taken
44:27
care of her was like i think
44:29
that. You'd better come back
44:31
home and those I doubt I'll be there
44:33
next. Next day I flew out to Montana
44:35
and then we like hung out one night
44:37
and and the next day. The.
44:40
Caretaker I'd as
44:42
she. Yeah. See
44:45
what see lease it was she would leave it like
44:47
for in the afternoons. My mom wanted to be alone
44:49
and nine so submitter home chef at or how home
44:51
yellow see. So she
44:53
was slapped in the night when got dinner
44:55
a gutter buffalo burgers lives buffalo burgers and
44:57
some got that flourish and couple bites. not
45:00
not big appetite and they gave some to
45:02
the dies as I get the am I
45:04
gonna go to bed and I helped her
45:06
to bed, gather in a bed and then
45:08
just to hang around better with area in
45:10
and slant on the bad with the dog
45:12
and then she. Tomorrow he
45:14
talked about. Ah,
45:18
We. Didn't talk about a lot, I was
45:20
just cannot hanging out. With. Her.
45:23
And just asking. She needed anything
45:25
and then I remember she liked
45:27
Santa. Sat up. Once
45:30
looked around the room counting laid back down
45:32
and set up another time. And.
45:34
Looked around the room. And. then when
45:36
she laid back as like i love you
45:38
and then she said i love you too
45:40
and then to rolled over and or right
45:42
hand side and and had like these kind
45:45
of gasp. Kind. Of like almost
45:47
like sleep apnea, like holding your breath
45:49
and then like letting our lives around
45:51
me. A let him go as she
45:53
passed away. You're there for that. Yeah,
45:55
I mean her literal last breath like
45:57
that? Yeah the yeah. It was crazy.
46:00
How's. How's his? I
46:02
mean, I'm so glad that I had that
46:04
moment with her and. You.
46:07
Very, very surreal. but she
46:09
doesn't have Ember first. Which.
46:12
Is also the Day of the dead It
46:14
is that the sure is so like as
46:16
as like both my parents dying like in
46:18
November you read time period on the clown
46:21
Dislike: if this is a simulation would you
46:23
do biggest Once I got I asked my
46:25
father die when nom We were sixteen. I
46:27
remember we found him in his bed and
46:30
you know there's a moment where you want
46:32
to spend some time with this person. It's
46:34
not there anymore. Yeah no you're literally next
46:36
year mom for them to call Nine One
46:39
One Right away you have a moment. What
46:41
do you do. I have edo answer to
46:43
and I had a moment with their in
46:45
our the dog was like to the dogs
46:47
like young energetic. Ab. All.
46:49
Blacks had do so. he the whole
46:51
time is rick ridiculous like she's dying
46:54
and I'm like holding him to stop
46:56
like running around the bad while she's
46:58
guys so stupid he adds some serious
47:00
issues like try to die in a
47:02
like in a nice way. I was
47:05
like our analysis got man can only
47:07
exist some it would you stop and
47:09
I'm like holding the smell like scares
47:11
us is that. Stupid.
47:15
As ridiculous. Ridiculous.
47:18
A was like very sad but of the
47:20
same time off on Ridiculous. So
47:24
crazy. ah this out
47:26
some as crazy as
47:29
crisis but. Yeah. Was
47:31
is kind of their and and. You. Know
47:33
hold the dog wagging than I did
47:35
can like hungry. My mom and like
47:37
said some nice things to her and
47:39
and gave her a kiss on the
47:41
forehead and then and then I called
47:43
the women the lady is take care
47:45
of her and ah and then she
47:47
she was very sexy developed a relationship
47:49
with my mom and she was really
47:52
great. My mom liked her and so
47:54
she came over and like told my
47:56
friend Kelly Kelly Stephen soon as I
47:58
mean new since grade school. And
48:00
now he's always just been there for
48:02
me. Really cool, died and he hurts
48:04
is crazy it's he worked for funeral
48:07
homes he's to pick up people after
48:09
the past so he did ever twelve
48:11
years. And. Ah,
48:14
He. I call them in a
48:16
new exactly used to say okay well call
48:18
the cops, they'll come over. Ah and then
48:20
I would call this funeral home. They're better
48:22
than you know. Crawford's better than these other
48:25
guys are like okay great. And.
48:28
Enough. Called the cops Bree came
48:30
over she was there she was like
48:33
very distraught in okay man saw my
48:35
mom and then and then like. It's
48:38
Kelly was there he just think we just
48:40
came in and he was very very helpful
48:42
and then like the cops came one of
48:44
the cops new Kallio the gay kelly him
48:46
as they came in as like partner way
48:48
as like I'm going to do as an
48:51
autopsy quick onsite autopsy will be right back
48:53
and Cnn and. For a
48:55
down all the staff report as like
48:57
you know natural causes, whatever And then
49:00
the funeral people came in and they
49:02
knew Kelly where they're like weird beef
49:04
between Hamdan the do you really I
49:06
didn't article on you've got ourselves as
49:09
as you are the put a ragbag
49:11
a at a school or were mob
49:13
money ran out and all hours into
49:16
exile marking as like Ray Kelly it's
49:18
was i insist said the Omega was
49:20
not about you really at all. It's
49:22
like all.area guys coming justice system. Can
49:25
we discuss his ass yeah any on and
49:27
they they got my mom and they a
49:29
nicer that the I went back one more
49:31
time after they had done their thing and
49:34
it to said goodbye to are in the
49:36
name in our put her in the bag
49:38
and then put on those the gurney in
49:40
to go outside and she was cremated. Immediately.
49:43
Like the next day and us out.
49:45
My mom wanted more, my mom on
49:47
it and am now like. I.
49:49
Was going to a psychedelic conference like
49:52
the. The. Very next day or
49:54
known the next step. And so
49:56
as like I think I'm just going to go. And.
49:58
Take ethical grounds. The just go to
50:01
that and then I came back right after
50:03
the conference. Like those two days man came
50:05
back and then went to the funeral home.
50:07
picked her back. our pick. the earn in
50:09
a while to be earned before. Arm
50:12
over the catalogue, the phone and then
50:14
now they put her in the air
50:16
and the came back. Got they earn?
50:19
Make. Sense of paperwork and then. Yeah,
50:22
came home but the earn about
50:24
next my dad's earn an hour.
50:26
Yeah, those stelzer that was. It
50:28
was crazy to feel like to
50:30
know like you know her parents
50:32
anymore. I know it's weird. It's
50:34
really it's a weird time as I get
50:36
of they gave even process you know what
50:38
it is. I'm at a do see a
50:41
psychologist but without are not as is. I
50:43
don't really talk about it, it's just something
50:45
that I constantly think about. No magic. At
50:47
some point maybe they'll be more of a
50:49
time where I'm thinking a lot more about
50:52
it. but we don't have siblings now and
50:54
are you eat? Do have any grandparents left
50:56
on either side now. Now the I guess
50:58
not. they lived to be older all the
51:00
made it up there. yeah they didn't make
51:03
it up there so. Yeah,
51:05
see and rage around think I know
51:07
where it's I do have uncles nansen
51:09
France but I have just never really
51:11
kept up with them and my mom.
51:14
Had can have. A
51:18
weird relationship with them.
51:20
I'm and. The
51:22
yeah they this later in life she
51:24
she she didn't really use his i'm
51:26
really talking to them that much so.
51:29
Yeah. The only uncle that really
51:31
reaches outlaws. My uncle Money. And
51:34
them. See. Your mom's brother.
51:36
Yeah, my mom's I half brother from.
51:39
An hour. That's. It
51:41
and he reaches out all the time, but there's
51:43
also a little bit of a language even I
51:45
do speak French. I'm not like hyper fluent in
51:48
writing it or I'm. At a
51:50
noted is a just i'm not is connected
51:52
to them. Ah so I haven't really talked
51:54
to them like after she passed when he
51:56
said like i'm sorry she passed so like
51:59
that But in. I was kind
52:01
of it. As or it At
52:03
some point I'll go back to France
52:05
and say to them you know and
52:07
ranks on my mom's ashes and kind
52:09
of spread them. you know in in
52:11
Europe but she wanted my my dad
52:14
and hers apparatus are spread out in
52:16
Glacier National Parks and so on. as
52:18
beautiful someone to do that at some
52:20
point? Oh yeah. Yeah. They'll
52:22
be called trip to take what did you
52:24
get? The have any conversations with your dad
52:26
about things before he passed. Or
52:29
see just again that that generation to
52:32
sleep. And we were writing
52:34
out of yelling were dug Bob Dylan's
52:36
here Feelings are real. Did you get
52:38
one at the very end though that
52:40
he slipped one and only at all?
52:42
Not really. Emmy we talked about Stick.
52:44
We talked about some stuff. By.
52:47
remember he was also and some heavy. Painkillers,
52:50
So member him getting up and thinking that there was
52:52
like. A fly on the ceiling but
52:55
there wasn't is like a weird shadow in your
52:57
time with them. And Emery talked about how he
52:59
thought the nurses hot. He.
53:02
Was eighty One hundred appear is like
53:04
okay cool but here it's I don't
53:06
know We my we might it's I
53:08
were nothing that I really remember that
53:10
was that he was just as his
53:12
muscles is hanging out with him and.
53:15
He. Would be like you know it ought
53:17
to be here. Nouns like and like has
53:19
no problem and mind being a whatever it
53:21
is is he now he's a scam acquired
53:23
dude. I'm. But. Your
53:26
party form is Renee some as my
53:28
name and we're like birthday cake. Hadn't
53:30
missed him happy birthday and I thought
53:32
that was really seats to keep preceded
53:34
that and. Yeah.
53:37
Nothing too heavy. But.
53:39
Ask as glad I was there and i have
53:41
been that I couldn't be there when he passed
53:44
as but my mom as their forums on this
53:46
question do you are the have any kids. Now.
53:49
The. Want kids? Now you know
53:51
one. I'm now nine Cynthia nieces
53:53
and nephews now that I have
53:55
known as Sister Snowmass. That's
53:58
right now. Their husbands from
54:00
your uncle over there as well. I
54:03
yeah, there aren't other kids as some
54:05
kasman, no one year for years now.
54:07
And Reggie, you're on your own bro.
54:10
Yeah, at fifty, that hits. The.
54:12
Of Firsts. says. The is
54:14
your life He at least have mom. The.
54:17
Up And now you're literally on your own.
54:19
Yeah. Oh New World says scare you
54:21
at all does give you a anxiety
54:23
you don't at least have some one
54:26
a call or write off to about
54:28
any vog and I mean I know
54:30
you do yea abraham into that you
54:32
know like out cancer mom and ask
54:34
this yeah I mean I do think
54:36
about that and I'm but. Ah
54:39
in our i don't know. it's an interesting the
54:41
it's mostly about like whoa whether by. What's.
54:43
My purpose in life like what am I
54:45
doing in out during in life like a Devlin
54:47
makes you think a little bit more about
54:49
that's and a different that about like kids like
54:52
in the sense that in eyes my friends
54:54
who have kids only time man with kids so
54:56
amazing an egg I get all that stuff
54:58
it it's still not enough for me to relax
55:00
and not really interested in that amount, more
55:02
interested in exploring. The. World and
55:04
I love kids and that I I love
55:07
like enough or talk to my friend's kids
55:09
you know about art and and improvisation or
55:11
be silly with them and stuff. I love
55:14
it but I really like having my own
55:16
time to myself and doing way to do
55:18
an. Arm. That's.
55:20
Fun! I love us. Ah
55:23
ends. Yeah, don't know. I know. I
55:25
mean I'm dealing with that nine ounces
55:27
like with. A out knesset
55:29
own have like of full time partner in
55:31
oh thank the am daily yourself getting married
55:34
or an animal now our has any goes
55:36
along with the same I know I know
55:38
I read our i got against twice and
55:40
I was younger and to as I really
55:42
admire you married and I don't think I
55:45
would get married I can imagine like finding
55:47
a partner. And maybe having a ceremony.
55:49
Some of their by wow the go want
55:51
to get legally arm way on that furry
55:53
inner ear as a F? The same have
55:55
you been married before? I've been engaged in
55:57
my daughter's mother and then after year she's
55:59
like. Never mind our yoda! Yeah,
56:01
you know where to go go go
56:04
wedding I but yeah, I agree with
56:06
doing something like. To
56:08
have you go somewhere like I, you
56:10
know, whatever. Go to Italy, get married
56:12
yeah and come back and all parties
56:14
yes home because P S Party Done
56:16
have the same price tag as wedding
56:18
Our my guys especially on a Saturday.
56:20
Pseudo A So right about that. I've
56:23
been so many weddings I'm like why
56:25
as is as people get divorced of
56:27
most most people know at least have
56:29
to physically they do As good as
56:31
I'm Ben, the weddings really been lavished
56:33
and than like six years later five
56:35
years later they get a divorce and
56:37
like. A lot of money,
56:39
A lot of pressure is a lot of
56:41
pressure on the scissors or like we want
56:43
to be together. we're going to be gets.
56:45
I think it's different if you I mean
56:47
if it's I like the low key weddings
56:50
where your legs he can feel the love
56:52
between them. they're excited but it's not the
56:54
not making a big deal of it there
56:56
just for this one celebrates the fact that
56:58
they're getting married and they have these amazing
57:00
friends around them and their families there and
57:02
I love that adding that like such a
57:04
beautiful way to do it on a gonna
57:06
more traditional like in a church. You.
57:08
Now with them a super expensive wedding
57:10
gown and all the nervousness there and
57:12
and stance in the wedding planner spaces,
57:14
it's either I'm like I'm just not
57:17
into the wedding industry the the wedding
57:19
industrial complex. well they that is like
57:21
Industry Metics to that's it announced Save
57:23
Some Money guys says money as savvy
57:25
Good fun, fun part. Of
57:28
this I hope you are. I'll be fine
57:30
whenever you're looking for solo out there bro.
57:32
Yeah, it's it's out there, this this fun
57:34
stuff out there aren't Thank you for doing
57:36
this for Ios has been great. Ah
57:39
I'm can I ask you now I'm
57:41
advice you would give to sixteen are
57:43
already lots. Of by said
57:46
get to succeed Ah it's am. Had.
57:51
A Say try to try to get better at
57:54
communicating. Your feelings. And
57:57
spicy. Romantically linked to skip.
58:00
Rick men and. communicating.
58:02
With people that your romantic with
58:05
probably the most. And
58:07
why you say that what did
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something happen and we were all
58:11
sixteen? Like you're just yeah. But
58:13
you're right. It's great advice an
58:15
ever greater right. Well, as like
58:17
Ina I loved. I like dating.
58:19
In our lots of people and so I would.
58:22
See a lotta different women in different periods of
58:24
my life. you know by any even like make
58:27
the long term relationships and things like that I
58:29
didn't know how to communicate etti know how to
58:31
communicate with. I became. More
58:33
vulnerable enough to become vulnerable and
58:35
the vulnerability is what creates closeness and
58:37
so I was always try To me
58:40
I relationships are but fantasy and my
58:42
perpetuating good times and some which is
58:44
sweet can have notion but it
58:46
doesn't only get you so far as
58:49
ago it is. Maybe come
58:51
up with some differ realizations and life
58:53
and I. Practice. That
58:55
a lot more. Realize that that was
58:58
important. full of an earlier. That's great
59:00
advice. Yes, I'm again plugin. promote. Plot.
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Promo: Yeah, I'll have it. Rough Time: I'm
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A. I'm A. I'm a special. I'm filming
59:07
and March at the gets going to come
59:09
out. And on for twenty. Not
59:12
totally sure but the said yes and
59:14
then I'm yeah. my book that's out
59:16
and rifles Montana so you can get
59:18
that wherever you get. Bizarre. so did
59:20
not a of books a can listen
59:23
to. Asthma? Awesome! Thank you very much
59:25
for doing the show. Now as always
59:27
Rise Sickler are also some meteorite sickler.com
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will talk the all next.
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