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#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

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#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

#892: Should Justin Thomas think of his Golf Swing LESS?

Thursday, 25th April 2024
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Guy had a I had a subject that I

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heard about on the I was

3:02

listening to the PGA tour radio on

3:05

Sirius XM and

3:07

one of the analysts

3:10

on there was talking

3:12

about the Harbortown tournament. I don't even know what

3:14

it's called. Heritage or something. OK, I call it

3:16

Harbortown. That's the golf course. I can't remember the

3:18

sponsor there. It's a Harbortown tournament. Anyway, they're talking

3:21

about Justin Thomas and they were talking about how

3:23

he need. This

3:32

is one guy talking. You

3:34

got to consider the source. But the one

3:36

guy is he's on this subject and

3:39

his subject is. Justin

3:42

Thomas needs to stop playing

3:44

golf swing and just start

3:46

playing golf. And

3:49

I thought, OK, this is

3:51

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3:55

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do it. Had bad online dad Fiji

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I. The. Topic: How is

5:05

hop. This. Whole

5:07

thing about. Play.

5:09

Is this this? this? this talking head

5:11

is going on? Non non non. Listen

5:14

to this and I'm like first us.

5:17

And. With this guy's handicap it's and

5:19

me he may be a good player.

5:21

An hour with his his sixties A

5:23

to the i may be scrapped. As.

5:27

A First off. I

5:30

offered a list of I would a scratch

5:32

golfers Saba, Let's just

5:34

assume he says scratched a scratch

5:36

scoffer. When. They go play in

5:39

a tournament. They're

5:41

going to shoot about seventy eight. K.

5:44

When. A touring pro. Keeps

5:46

a handicap. He's like a plus

5:49

six Plus seven. Something like that.

5:51

Plus five. He's. A plus

5:53

handicap meaning and their home course.

5:56

Playing with their buddies think an

5:58

average like sixty six. The seven

6:00

for a with their ten best other

6:02

last twenty scores. Gates.

6:05

Course: It depends on the index,

6:07

the course rating, whatever they call

6:09

it, but the difference between a

6:11

scratch player and eight touring pro.

6:14

Is. About six or eight shots

6:16

around. Chains and if you

6:18

put. The. Average player if you

6:21

put as the it was for the average player

6:23

on a. Pj. Tour course that

6:25

they would. they would make one hundred

6:27

but even put a scratch player on

6:29

a Pg two or course and they

6:32

would break eighty. I'm a night like

6:34

I'm not talking about like. This

6:36

round. I'm talking

6:38

about like. Ever? Okay,

6:40

They wouldn't. They wouldn't ever put

6:43

him on the Augusta. Oh My.

6:45

Gods. No No No No no

6:47

they they would even sniffs. You

6:49

know I see ya around the

6:51

under eighty. not even not even

6:53

sniff the So when I hear

6:56

people talking. And. They

6:58

eat out at back and talk

7:00

like they. Did. Or the

7:02

expert on and this these subjects. I

7:04

think it's like. Really?

7:06

I mean, you're the expert. I

7:08

mean, what? What's so so There's

7:10

still people actually listeners? And

7:13

there's taken this stuff as gospel and

7:15

they need this. one thing they love

7:17

to talk about. His. You.

7:20

Gotta play golf. Knockoffs: When.

7:23

Justin. Thomas is playing golf swing,

7:25

knock off, And. I'm like,

7:27

what exact? What? Is that? me?

7:29

Put a Emmy? First off, Justin

7:32

Thomas. Has has not

7:34

been playing. Great is world ranking is dropped

7:37

in it and it's a corrupt world Golf

7:39

raising as Assad even an actor were golf

7:41

rank. As in town all the L I

7:43

V players and I think he's dropped down

7:45

that you know twenty second or something like

7:47

that and he was you know at a

7:49

top five player in was A he's had

7:52

a piece at a big drop. In.

7:54

Any Santa Fe, a huge

7:56

drop in his statistics is

7:59

historically Whitworth. All the players on

8:01

the Pj to or including the L

8:03

I V players he was a top

8:05

ten ball striker Top five ball striker

8:07

every year. Like clockwork not agree Potter

8:10

but a top ten tough I ball

8:12

striker. Just like like every year he

8:14

was. And then all of

8:16

a sudden he doesn't He is not is

8:18

that plane is good. He's. Not hidden.

8:21

It is good. Ah, In

8:23

any still putten. Kind of not

8:25

great. Day. When

8:28

you're not hidden, a good. There's

8:32

something wrong. With. Your

8:35

mechanics. Like. I

8:37

they'll be like the you know the

8:39

golf ball doesn't know. What

8:42

you're thinking about it doesn't know how

8:44

com funny if you are. The

8:47

gopal doesn't know anything all the golf

8:49

all nose what the golf club does

8:51

to it. And. of the golf

8:54

club isn't doing something to the ball

8:56

that makes ago where you wanted to

8:58

go. there's something wrong with your mechanics

9:00

so and feals I'm always thinking too

9:03

much about his swaying and he ccp

9:05

nice to just play. I

9:07

like. Justin Thomas knows how

9:09

he can hit the ball He's

9:12

he's a major to either to

9:14

time major championship. When he is

9:16

he has been a phenomenal ball

9:18

striker. He can go stand up

9:21

on the driving range and in.

9:24

Two minutes tell you how he

9:26

feels like the strike in it

9:28

today and when something is off.

9:30

A I don't understand the logic

9:32

that people have that that somehow

9:35

he says supposed to be able

9:37

to pretend like. Nothing's.

9:39

Off and I'm hitting a great. But.

9:41

I'm really not hitting a great. You.

9:44

Know it and and when he sees

9:46

the ball he know when you stand

9:48

up overshot you visualize where you want

9:50

the ball the start. He visualize which

9:52

way you wanted to curve. Because.

9:55

you're you're playing to different pin placements your

9:57

plan holes a dog like right og like

9:59

left You're playing in

10:01

different wind conditions. So

10:04

you determine where you want the ball to start,

10:06

which way you want the ball to curve, and

10:08

what trajectory you want to hit the ball at. Those

10:10

are the three things that you have to be, every

10:12

time you stand up over a shot, even

10:15

if you're not a very good golfer, you're attempting to

10:17

do those three things. Where do I want the ball

10:19

to start, which way do I want to curve, and

10:23

what trajectory do I want to hit the ball

10:25

at? And the trajectory is so important because

10:29

that allows you the ability

10:32

to play in different conditions, in other

10:34

words the wind, and to different pin

10:36

placements, and it also allows you to

10:38

hit partial shots. The way

10:41

you hit partial shots is you vary

10:43

your trajectory. So if I want to

10:45

hit a, you know, if I'm trying

10:47

to hit it as far as I

10:49

can, I'm not going to send it in their head high. If

10:52

I want to take a little distance off

10:54

it, I'll go a little more three-quarter, and

10:56

I'll lower the trajectory. I remember when Tiger

10:59

Woods first turned pro, he moved

11:01

into Iowa, down Orlando, and

11:03

this is when he became friends with Mark

11:05

O'Meara, and Mark O'Meara told him, he

11:07

said, he gave him

11:09

a great tip, he said, the most

11:12

important thing you can do on

11:15

the PGA Tour is

11:17

you have to be able to hit the

11:19

ball pin high, and that's the

11:21

key. You've got to hit the ball

11:23

pin high, and you have to hit the ball

11:25

pin high so that when you hit a shot

11:27

that goes at the pin, it goes the right

11:29

distance, and now you have a legitimate birdie putt.

11:32

That was a great tip, but to do that

11:34

you have to be able to control your trajectory.

11:36

That's the thing, and the best ball strikers are

11:38

always the ones that are able to control their

11:40

trajectory. You can't, you know, as they say, when

11:42

you, you know, you start, you got to start

11:44

it through the correct window. You know, if you're

11:46

standing, if you're aiming at a building, and you're

11:48

aiming to go through the 20th floor window, and

11:51

you, you hit a shot and it

11:53

goes through the 10th floor window, that ball would

11:56

not have gone the distance that you thought it

11:58

was going to go. If you

12:00

hit it too high, too low, it's going to

12:02

affect the distance it goes. So my point is

12:04

this. If a player like Justin Tomlin,

12:06

that could be any player, it doesn't matter who it is,

12:10

stands on the practice tee or the golf

12:12

course and they're hitting shots

12:14

and they're not starting it off where they

12:16

want to, they're not curving it

12:18

the amount or in the direction that they want

12:20

to, and they're not

12:22

able to control their trajectory like

12:25

they want to, then

12:27

there's something wrong with their mechanics

12:30

relative to how they typically swing when they're

12:32

able to do those things. It's just as

12:34

simple as that. And the

12:37

correction for that isn't just

12:40

Danny be the ball. You know, like

12:42

I'm going to Danny be the ball

12:44

and, you know, from Caddyshack and

12:47

you're just going to visualize and you're

12:49

going to be the ball and miraculously

12:52

this ball is just going to take off and it's

12:54

going to go just like you want it to. That's

12:57

fantasy land. That is

12:59

not the way it works. So when people say, you

13:01

know, oh, you're thinking too much about your swing. And

13:04

my thought is when somebody says that, well,

13:06

if you're not hitting it good, then

13:09

you must be thinking about maybe you're not

13:11

thinking about the right things. See,

13:14

so Justin Thomas has been, he's

13:17

been in flux with his swing. You

13:19

know, I don't think his dad is,

13:22

which was, this was a bad move when he

13:24

stopped listening to his dad as much because it

13:26

doesn't sound like he's listened to his dad quite

13:28

as much. Maybe he is. I

13:30

don't know. But I would have put my trust in

13:33

his dad. Mike Thomas, a

13:35

great coach helped Justin his whole

13:38

life. I mean, you know, but when you, when these guys,

13:40

no matter who they are, one thing

13:42

that's certainly going to happen is you're, you're going to

13:44

struggle. Everybody's going to struggle. And

13:46

when you start struggling, even

13:49

the greatest players in the world, they

13:51

have rabbit ears. They will listen

13:53

to like, you know, they are,

13:55

they are rabbit ears. They get the big ears

13:57

going. I mean, they're going to listen to anything.

14:00

because they just are hoping somebody has

14:02

something and then that gets you

14:05

offline. But you got to think about something

14:07

in your swing. You just can't. It just

14:09

doesn't happen. This

14:12

notion, this playing golf.golf swing.

14:15

What does that mean? What

14:17

does that mean? How is that going to fit? Like playing golf.

14:20

Like what if you slice? If

14:22

you slice and I said to you, hey, just

14:25

go play golf. Don't play golf swing. You

14:27

think that's going to fix your slice? If

14:29

you hook the ball or you hit it too low or you

14:31

hit it too high and I say, I don't, you know, just

14:34

go play golf. Don't play golf

14:37

swing. Don't think about your swing so much.

14:40

How is that going to change what

14:42

you're currently doing? And the answer is

14:44

it's not. So this stuff that people

14:46

talk about is craziness. It's absolute lunacy.

14:49

I don't know where people come up with this, but

14:51

they say it fast and

14:55

they say it confidently and

14:57

it makes you think it might be, it

14:59

might be true, but it's not. It's not.

15:02

You have to figure out what

15:04

is causing you to be inconsistent.

15:06

What is causing you to hit

15:08

bad shots? You have to understand

15:11

what you need to do to hit a better

15:13

shot. And that means what the club is doing.

15:16

That means what your body is doing, your

15:18

hands, arms and body are doing to protect

15:20

the club. And then you have

15:23

to make some type

15:25

of a correction. And

15:27

then you have to practice so you can

15:29

do it consistently. And that is, it's as

15:31

simple as it gets. That's it. You want

15:33

to have something simple? That's it. That's how

15:35

you get it. I remember, I remember back

15:37

in the day, this is a story

15:39

back in the day, Mark O'Meara was

15:41

my first student on the PGA tour.

15:45

And I've told this story before, but

15:47

Mark, Mark was

15:49

a great student. When we started,

15:51

he literally didn't know, and he

15:54

would tell you, he didn't know anything at

15:56

all about the golf swing. I

16:00

said, okay, what's your issue?

16:02

He says, I hook it too much. I just wanna learn, I

16:04

just wanna fade every shot. I don't wanna hook it. And

16:07

I'm like, okay. I said, you know, I'm

16:09

kinda listening. I'm thinking, why don't we learn how to just,

16:11

why don't we learn how to draw it correctly and

16:14

learn how to fade it? I mean, why do we just wanna fade

16:16

every shot? I mean, what are we gonna do? What

16:18

are we gonna do when the whole curve's to the left? What

16:21

are we gonna do when the pin's

16:23

on the left? What

16:25

are we gonna do when the pin's on the

16:27

left and the wind's

16:32

out of the left and all

16:34

we're doing is fading everything?

16:36

What are we gonna do when the pin's on the left, the

16:39

wind's on the left, the ball's below our feet and

16:42

all we can do is fade

16:44

the ball? I said, this doesn't sound like a very

16:47

good plan to me. I said, we need

16:49

to learn how to draw it correctly so we don't hook

16:51

it too much and don't pull it. And then we need

16:53

to learn how to fade it. We need to learn how

16:55

to hit both shots. But

16:57

Mark learned and he was

17:00

a great student. But I remember, everybody

17:04

has ups and downs and

17:08

Mark had some great ups for

17:10

sure. But then

17:12

there was a stretch when he had some downs

17:15

and maybe missed a few cuts or had

17:17

some poor finishes and

17:20

all the know-it-alls, like I said,

17:24

they got the rabbit ears, okay? But

17:26

the know-it-alls would talk and the

17:28

pros would listen. This was

17:30

about the time when the sports psychologists

17:32

were all coming, that was a thing,

17:34

okay, that was a thing. And

17:37

people would tell him, Mark, you're thinking

17:39

about your swing too much. And

17:42

all of a sudden, Mark's missed

17:45

a couple cuts and he says, yeah, maybe

17:47

I'm thinking about my swing too much. This

17:51

guy's got a good spiel over here. Maybe

17:53

I am thinking about my swing too

17:55

much. Now maybe I'll try this deal.

17:58

I'll try this deal for a little. I'll try this. visualize

18:00

your shot for a little for a while. So

18:03

Mark goes to the sports like I forget who it

18:05

was he goes to the sport and this guy's telling

18:07

you know visualize this visualize that you know Danny be

18:09

the ball all this stuff and

18:12

Mark was into it and he's a dedicated student

18:14

I mean like like he took notes from every

18:16

lesson I ever gave him he

18:20

religiously practiced thought about what he's in he

18:22

you know like he went he went

18:24

hook line and sinker for this whole thing you

18:27

know this visualize stuff play

18:29

golf not golf swing you know whatever whatever

18:31

these guys talk about that don't know anything

18:34

I never forget it you know he went he did this for

18:36

like a month I remember

18:38

he showed up at Pebble Beach I forget what term

18:40

it was I don't know if it was the Pebble

18:43

Beach invitation he won that thing like five times it

18:45

might have been the US Open at Pebble Beach I

18:48

remember I was walking with him I remember

18:50

I remember exactly I was halfway we were

18:52

I was walking on the outside of the

18:54

ropes because I you know I'm still there

18:56

supporting them watched him

18:59

on the practice tee I'm giving them some lessons

19:01

but you know I'm kind of fighting against this

19:03

Danny be the ball stuff you have a little

19:05

fight you know I mean I'm not fighting hard

19:07

because I just I just figured this let's just

19:09

let it run its course you know we're wasting

19:11

time but hey you know that's alright you

19:14

know we had enough time you know we had enough time

19:16

we had enough time to get him to the Hall of

19:18

Fame and we had enough time

19:20

we could we can waste a little time for you but

19:22

that's what we're doing right now is wasting time that's what

19:24

I was thinking and and I just

19:26

you know let him go you know try to support

19:28

him try to sneak in a few thoughts every once

19:30

in a while and while he was playing Danny be

19:33

the ball and and

19:35

anyway we're walking down the 17th hole

19:38

it was the end of the tournament it was like the

19:40

71st hole of the

19:42

tournament walking down the 17th hole at Pebble

19:44

Beach what a beautiful hole oh my god

19:46

love Pebble Beach anyway walking down

19:49

the hall I can remember exactly where I was

19:51

there's a car path there a road that cuts

19:53

through the 17th right in

19:55

front of the T and I had just walked past

19:57

that road can you imagine I can still remember this

19:59

I'd walked pass that rope, Mark comes over

20:01

to the ropes and he

20:03

said, Hank, he said, you know

20:05

what? He said, I've

20:08

been visualizing my swing for

20:12

a whole month. He

20:14

said, I've visualized every single

20:16

shot just like I want to hit it.

20:19

He said, and for a month, he

20:22

said, I haven't hit one shot.

20:25

Like I know I can hit. He

20:28

said, tomorrow I'm

20:30

going back to thinking about my swing. And

20:34

then you know where he went? He

20:36

went to the Hall of Fame. That's where he went.

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