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by https://otter.ai Hall
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of fame. Never doubted. It's
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right. Today's podcast
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is going to be about helping you get better.
2:57
Guy had a I had a subject that I
2:59
heard about on the I was
3:02
listening to the PGA tour radio on
3:05
Sirius XM and
3:07
one of the analysts
3:10
on there was talking
3:12
about the Harbortown tournament. I don't even know what
3:14
it's called. Heritage or something. OK, I call it
3:16
Harbortown. That's the golf course. I can't remember the
3:18
sponsor there. It's a Harbortown tournament. Anyway, they're talking
3:21
about Justin Thomas and they were talking about how
3:23
he need. This
3:32
is one guy talking. You
3:34
got to consider the source. But the one
3:36
guy is he's on this subject and
3:39
his subject is. Justin
3:42
Thomas needs to stop playing
3:44
golf swing and just start
3:46
playing golf. And
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I thought, OK, this is
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a good topic for a
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podcast. So We're going to
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talk about that today. And I'm going to kind of
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do it. Had bad online dad Fiji
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I. The. Topic: How is
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hop. This. Whole
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thing about. Play.
5:09
Is this this? this? this talking head
5:11
is going on? Non non non. Listen
5:14
to this and I'm like first us.
5:17
And. With this guy's handicap it's and
5:19
me he may be a good player.
5:21
An hour with his his sixties A
5:23
to the i may be scrapped. As.
5:27
A First off. I
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offered a list of I would a scratch
5:32
golfers Saba, Let's just
5:34
assume he says scratched a scratch
5:36
scoffer. When. They go play in
5:39
a tournament. They're
5:41
going to shoot about seventy eight. K.
5:44
When. A touring pro. Keeps
5:46
a handicap. He's like a plus
5:49
six Plus seven. Something like that.
5:51
Plus five. He's. A plus
5:53
handicap meaning and their home course.
5:56
Playing with their buddies think an
5:58
average like sixty six. The seven
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for a with their ten best other
6:02
last twenty scores. Gates.
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Course: It depends on the index,
6:07
the course rating, whatever they call
6:09
it, but the difference between a
6:11
scratch player and eight touring pro.
6:14
Is. About six or eight shots
6:16
around. Chains and if you
6:18
put. The. Average player if you
6:21
put as the it was for the average player
6:23
on a. Pj. Tour course that
6:25
they would. they would make one hundred
6:27
but even put a scratch player on
6:29
a Pg two or course and they
6:32
would break eighty. I'm a night like
6:34
I'm not talking about like. This
6:36
round. I'm talking
6:38
about like. Ever? Okay,
6:40
They wouldn't. They wouldn't ever put
6:43
him on the Augusta. Oh My.
6:45
Gods. No No No No no
6:47
they they would even sniffs. You
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know I see ya around the
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under eighty. not even not even
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sniff the So when I hear
6:56
people talking. And. They
6:58
eat out at back and talk
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like they. Did. Or the
7:02
expert on and this these subjects. I
7:04
think it's like. Really?
7:06
I mean, you're the expert. I
7:08
mean, what? What's so so There's
7:10
still people actually listeners? And
7:13
there's taken this stuff as gospel and
7:15
they need this. one thing they love
7:17
to talk about. His. You.
7:20
Gotta play golf. Knockoffs: When.
7:23
Justin. Thomas is playing golf swing,
7:25
knock off, And. I'm like,
7:27
what exact? What? Is that? me?
7:29
Put a Emmy? First off, Justin
7:32
Thomas. Has has not
7:34
been playing. Great is world ranking is dropped
7:37
in it and it's a corrupt world Golf
7:39
raising as Assad even an actor were golf
7:41
rank. As in town all the L I
7:43
V players and I think he's dropped down
7:45
that you know twenty second or something like
7:47
that and he was you know at a
7:49
top five player in was A he's had
7:52
a piece at a big drop. In.
7:54
Any Santa Fe, a huge
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drop in his statistics is
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historically Whitworth. All the players on
8:01
the Pj to or including the L
8:03
I V players he was a top
8:05
ten ball striker Top five ball striker
8:07
every year. Like clockwork not agree Potter
8:10
but a top ten tough I ball
8:12
striker. Just like like every year he
8:14
was. And then all of
8:16
a sudden he doesn't He is not is
8:18
that plane is good. He's. Not hidden.
8:21
It is good. Ah, In
8:23
any still putten. Kind of not
8:25
great. Day. When
8:28
you're not hidden, a good. There's
8:32
something wrong. With. Your
8:35
mechanics. Like. I
8:37
they'll be like the you know the
8:39
golf ball doesn't know. What
8:42
you're thinking about it doesn't know how
8:44
com funny if you are. The
8:47
gopal doesn't know anything all the golf
8:49
all nose what the golf club does
8:51
to it. And. of the golf
8:54
club isn't doing something to the ball
8:56
that makes ago where you wanted to
8:58
go. there's something wrong with your mechanics
9:00
so and feals I'm always thinking too
9:03
much about his swaying and he ccp
9:05
nice to just play. I
9:07
like. Justin Thomas knows how
9:09
he can hit the ball He's
9:12
he's a major to either to
9:14
time major championship. When he is
9:16
he has been a phenomenal ball
9:18
striker. He can go stand up
9:21
on the driving range and in.
9:24
Two minutes tell you how he
9:26
feels like the strike in it
9:28
today and when something is off.
9:30
A I don't understand the logic
9:32
that people have that that somehow
9:35
he says supposed to be able
9:37
to pretend like. Nothing's.
9:39
Off and I'm hitting a great. But.
9:41
I'm really not hitting a great. You.
9:44
Know it and and when he sees
9:46
the ball he know when you stand
9:48
up overshot you visualize where you want
9:50
the ball the start. He visualize which
9:52
way you wanted to curve. Because.
9:55
you're you're playing to different pin placements your
9:57
plan holes a dog like right og like
9:59
left You're playing in
10:01
different wind conditions. So
10:04
you determine where you want the ball to start,
10:06
which way you want the ball to curve, and
10:08
what trajectory you want to hit the ball at. Those
10:10
are the three things that you have to be, every
10:12
time you stand up over a shot, even
10:15
if you're not a very good golfer, you're attempting to
10:17
do those three things. Where do I want the ball
10:19
to start, which way do I want to curve, and
10:23
what trajectory do I want to hit the ball
10:25
at? And the trajectory is so important because
10:29
that allows you the ability
10:32
to play in different conditions, in other
10:34
words the wind, and to different pin
10:36
placements, and it also allows you to
10:38
hit partial shots. The way
10:41
you hit partial shots is you vary
10:43
your trajectory. So if I want to
10:45
hit a, you know, if I'm trying
10:47
to hit it as far as I
10:49
can, I'm not going to send it in their head high. If
10:52
I want to take a little distance off
10:54
it, I'll go a little more three-quarter, and
10:56
I'll lower the trajectory. I remember when Tiger
10:59
Woods first turned pro, he moved
11:01
into Iowa, down Orlando, and
11:03
this is when he became friends with Mark
11:05
O'Meara, and Mark O'Meara told him, he
11:07
said, he gave him
11:09
a great tip, he said, the most
11:12
important thing you can do on
11:15
the PGA Tour is
11:17
you have to be able to hit the
11:19
ball pin high, and that's the
11:21
key. You've got to hit the ball
11:23
pin high, and you have to hit the ball
11:25
pin high so that when you hit a shot
11:27
that goes at the pin, it goes the right
11:29
distance, and now you have a legitimate birdie putt.
11:32
That was a great tip, but to do that
11:34
you have to be able to control your trajectory.
11:36
That's the thing, and the best ball strikers are
11:38
always the ones that are able to control their
11:40
trajectory. You can't, you know, as they say, when
11:42
you, you know, you start, you got to start
11:44
it through the correct window. You know, if you're
11:46
standing, if you're aiming at a building, and you're
11:48
aiming to go through the 20th floor window, and
11:51
you, you hit a shot and it
11:53
goes through the 10th floor window, that ball would
11:56
not have gone the distance that you thought it
11:58
was going to go. If you
12:00
hit it too high, too low, it's going to
12:02
affect the distance it goes. So my point is
12:04
this. If a player like Justin Tomlin,
12:06
that could be any player, it doesn't matter who it is,
12:10
stands on the practice tee or the golf
12:12
course and they're hitting shots
12:14
and they're not starting it off where they
12:16
want to, they're not curving it
12:18
the amount or in the direction that they want
12:20
to, and they're not
12:22
able to control their trajectory like
12:25
they want to, then
12:27
there's something wrong with their mechanics
12:30
relative to how they typically swing when they're
12:32
able to do those things. It's just as
12:34
simple as that. And the
12:37
correction for that isn't just
12:40
Danny be the ball. You know, like
12:42
I'm going to Danny be the ball
12:44
and, you know, from Caddyshack and
12:47
you're just going to visualize and you're
12:49
going to be the ball and miraculously
12:52
this ball is just going to take off and it's
12:54
going to go just like you want it to. That's
12:57
fantasy land. That is
12:59
not the way it works. So when people say, you
13:01
know, oh, you're thinking too much about your swing. And
13:04
my thought is when somebody says that, well,
13:06
if you're not hitting it good, then
13:09
you must be thinking about maybe you're not
13:11
thinking about the right things. See,
13:14
so Justin Thomas has been, he's
13:17
been in flux with his swing. You
13:19
know, I don't think his dad is,
13:22
which was, this was a bad move when he
13:24
stopped listening to his dad as much because it
13:26
doesn't sound like he's listened to his dad quite
13:28
as much. Maybe he is. I
13:30
don't know. But I would have put my trust in
13:33
his dad. Mike Thomas, a
13:35
great coach helped Justin his whole
13:38
life. I mean, you know, but when you, when these guys,
13:40
no matter who they are, one thing
13:42
that's certainly going to happen is you're, you're going to
13:44
struggle. Everybody's going to struggle. And
13:46
when you start struggling, even
13:49
the greatest players in the world, they
13:51
have rabbit ears. They will listen
13:53
to like, you know, they are,
13:55
they are rabbit ears. They get the big ears
13:57
going. I mean, they're going to listen to anything.
14:00
because they just are hoping somebody has
14:02
something and then that gets you
14:05
offline. But you got to think about something
14:07
in your swing. You just can't. It just
14:09
doesn't happen. This
14:12
notion, this playing golf.golf swing.
14:15
What does that mean? What
14:17
does that mean? How is that going to fit? Like playing golf.
14:20
Like what if you slice? If
14:22
you slice and I said to you, hey, just
14:25
go play golf. Don't play golf swing. You
14:27
think that's going to fix your slice? If
14:29
you hook the ball or you hit it too low or you
14:31
hit it too high and I say, I don't, you know, just
14:34
go play golf. Don't play golf
14:37
swing. Don't think about your swing so much.
14:40
How is that going to change what
14:42
you're currently doing? And the answer is
14:44
it's not. So this stuff that people
14:46
talk about is craziness. It's absolute lunacy.
14:49
I don't know where people come up with this, but
14:51
they say it fast and
14:55
they say it confidently and
14:57
it makes you think it might be, it
14:59
might be true, but it's not. It's not.
15:02
You have to figure out what
15:04
is causing you to be inconsistent.
15:06
What is causing you to hit
15:08
bad shots? You have to understand
15:11
what you need to do to hit a better
15:13
shot. And that means what the club is doing.
15:16
That means what your body is doing, your
15:18
hands, arms and body are doing to protect
15:20
the club. And then you have
15:23
to make some type
15:25
of a correction. And
15:27
then you have to practice so you can
15:29
do it consistently. And that is, it's as
15:31
simple as it gets. That's it. You want
15:33
to have something simple? That's it. That's how
15:35
you get it. I remember, I remember back
15:37
in the day, this is a story
15:39
back in the day, Mark O'Meara was
15:41
my first student on the PGA tour.
15:45
And I've told this story before, but
15:47
Mark, Mark was
15:49
a great student. When we started,
15:51
he literally didn't know, and he
15:54
would tell you, he didn't know anything at
15:56
all about the golf swing. I
16:00
said, okay, what's your issue?
16:02
He says, I hook it too much. I just wanna learn, I
16:04
just wanna fade every shot. I don't wanna hook it. And
16:07
I'm like, okay. I said, you know, I'm
16:09
kinda listening. I'm thinking, why don't we learn how to just,
16:11
why don't we learn how to draw it correctly and
16:14
learn how to fade it? I mean, why do we just wanna fade
16:16
every shot? I mean, what are we gonna do? What
16:18
are we gonna do when the whole curve's to the left? What
16:21
are we gonna do when the pin's
16:23
on the left? What
16:25
are we gonna do when the pin's on the
16:27
left and the wind's
16:32
out of the left and all
16:34
we're doing is fading everything?
16:36
What are we gonna do when the pin's on the left, the
16:39
wind's on the left, the ball's below our feet and
16:42
all we can do is fade
16:44
the ball? I said, this doesn't sound like a very
16:47
good plan to me. I said, we need
16:49
to learn how to draw it correctly so we don't hook
16:51
it too much and don't pull it. And then we need
16:53
to learn how to fade it. We need to learn how
16:55
to hit both shots. But
16:57
Mark learned and he was
17:00
a great student. But I remember, everybody
17:04
has ups and downs and
17:08
Mark had some great ups for
17:10
sure. But then
17:12
there was a stretch when he had some downs
17:15
and maybe missed a few cuts or had
17:17
some poor finishes and
17:20
all the know-it-alls, like I said,
17:24
they got the rabbit ears, okay? But
17:26
the know-it-alls would talk and the
17:28
pros would listen. This was
17:30
about the time when the sports psychologists
17:32
were all coming, that was a thing,
17:34
okay, that was a thing. And
17:37
people would tell him, Mark, you're thinking
17:39
about your swing too much. And
17:42
all of a sudden, Mark's missed
17:45
a couple cuts and he says, yeah, maybe
17:47
I'm thinking about my swing too much. This
17:51
guy's got a good spiel over here. Maybe
17:53
I am thinking about my swing too
17:55
much. Now maybe I'll try this deal.
17:58
I'll try this deal for a little. I'll try this. visualize
18:00
your shot for a little for a while. So
18:03
Mark goes to the sports like I forget who it
18:05
was he goes to the sport and this guy's telling
18:07
you know visualize this visualize that you know Danny be
18:09
the ball all this stuff and
18:12
Mark was into it and he's a dedicated student
18:14
I mean like like he took notes from every
18:16
lesson I ever gave him he
18:20
religiously practiced thought about what he's in he
18:22
you know like he went he went
18:24
hook line and sinker for this whole thing you
18:27
know this visualize stuff play
18:29
golf not golf swing you know whatever whatever
18:31
these guys talk about that don't know anything
18:34
I never forget it you know he went he did this for
18:36
like a month I remember
18:38
he showed up at Pebble Beach I forget what term
18:40
it was I don't know if it was the Pebble
18:43
Beach invitation he won that thing like five times it
18:45
might have been the US Open at Pebble Beach I
18:48
remember I was walking with him I remember
18:50
I remember exactly I was halfway we were
18:52
I was walking on the outside of the
18:54
ropes because I you know I'm still there
18:56
supporting them watched him
18:59
on the practice tee I'm giving them some lessons
19:01
but you know I'm kind of fighting against this
19:03
Danny be the ball stuff you have a little
19:05
fight you know I mean I'm not fighting hard
19:07
because I just I just figured this let's just
19:09
let it run its course you know we're wasting
19:11
time but hey you know that's alright you
19:14
know we had enough time you know we had enough time
19:16
we had enough time to get him to the Hall of
19:18
Fame and we had enough time
19:20
we could we can waste a little time for you but
19:22
that's what we're doing right now is wasting time that's what
19:24
I was thinking and and I just
19:26
you know let him go you know try to support
19:28
him try to sneak in a few thoughts every once
19:30
in a while and while he was playing Danny be
19:33
the ball and and
19:35
anyway we're walking down the 17th hole
19:38
it was the end of the tournament it was like the
19:40
71st hole of the
19:42
tournament walking down the 17th hole at Pebble
19:44
Beach what a beautiful hole oh my god
19:46
love Pebble Beach anyway walking down
19:49
the hall I can remember exactly where I was
19:51
there's a car path there a road that cuts
19:53
through the 17th right in
19:55
front of the T and I had just walked past
19:57
that road can you imagine I can still remember this
19:59
I'd walked pass that rope, Mark comes over
20:01
to the ropes and he
20:03
said, Hank, he said, you know
20:05
what? He said, I've
20:08
been visualizing my swing for
20:12
a whole month. He
20:14
said, I've visualized every single
20:16
shot just like I want to hit it.
20:19
He said, and for a month, he
20:22
said, I haven't hit one shot.
20:25
Like I know I can hit. He
20:28
said, tomorrow I'm
20:30
going back to thinking about my swing. And
20:34
then you know where he went? He
20:36
went to the Hall of Fame. That's where he went.
20:40
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20:42
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beater. You remember that? My first game
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when I ever made, remember you said
21:01
you never see me do that. Ladies
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and gentlemen, DeMarcus Boogie Cousin. I call a book. I'm
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like, yeah, I'm about to commit to Duke and I
21:08
hung up on him. Bro,
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I'm talking about, do you want to tell me how many
21:13
times he called me all type of names, bro? You really
21:15
selling me out and you doing this. Bro,
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