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Hello, everybody, and welcome to The Great America

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Show. It is great to have you with

1:17

us. President Trump started this

1:19

week back in a New York

1:22

City courtroom as the Marxist

1:24

Dems are hoping to do all the

1:26

damage they can possibly do to him

1:28

to keep him off the campaign trail.

1:31

Trump gave a statement before entering

1:33

the courtroom. He said that this

1:35

is an outrage. Thank

1:39

you very much. I just want to

1:41

say before we begin, these are all

1:43

Biden trials. This is done as election

1:45

interference. Everybody knows that I'm here instead

1:48

of being able to be in Pennsylvania

1:50

and Georgia and lots of

1:52

other places campaigning. And

1:54

it's very unfair. Fortunately, the poll numbers are

1:56

very good. They've been going up because people

1:58

understand what's going on. This is

2:01

our witch hunt and it's a shame.

2:03

And it comes out of Washington. There's

2:05

some coordination with Washington, everything, including the

2:07

ASO. It's in coordination with Washington. I

2:10

just want people to understand that this

2:12

is done through a purpose of hurting

2:15

the opponents of the worst president

2:17

in the history of our country.

2:20

It's a disgrace what these Marxist Dems

2:22

are doing to President Trump, doing to

2:25

our system of justice and

2:27

this nation. Over the weekend, Speaker

2:29

Mike Johnson issued his latest betrayal

2:31

of the Republican Party, a $95

2:33

billion betrayal. Johnson

2:36

and his unit party of 101

2:38

rhinos sending another gift

2:41

to foreign nations, in particular

2:43

Ukraine. 60

2:45

billion of it to Ukraine, 26 billion

2:47

to Israel, and another

2:49

8 billion to Taiwan. A single

2:52

dollar of it going to secure

2:54

our southern border, but 300 million

2:56

of it will go towards securing

2:59

Ukraine's eastern border. How

3:01

comforting. And Speaker Johnson,

3:03

who has been nothing but a disgrace,

3:05

as Speaker talking to the press after

3:08

passing the bill, he says

3:10

this funding was needed because Russia is

3:12

a real threat to our prosperity and

3:14

security. And this issue

3:17

demands American leadership. He's right,

3:20

but America isn't getting that

3:22

leadership. I said these are not

3:24

normal times. They're not. The world

3:26

is destabilized and it's a tinderbox. It's

3:29

a dangerous time. Three of

3:31

our primary adversaries, Russia and Iran

3:33

and China, are working together and

3:36

they're being aggressors around the globe. And

3:38

they're a global threat to our prosperity and

3:41

our security. Their advance

3:43

threatens their free world and it

3:45

demands American leadership. If

3:47

we turn our backs right now, the consequences could

3:49

be devastating. It makes

3:51

you wonder just who does Mike Johnson

3:54

think he's fooling. The

3:56

military industrial complex and the war

3:58

mongers in Congress. seemed to

4:00

own just about 100% of Speaker Mike Johnson. Well,

4:05

after that bill was passed,

4:07

one of Mike Johnson's mouthpieces,

4:09

Congressman Tony Gonzalez, ran

4:12

to make an appearance on CNN. Well,

4:16

to kind of, I don't

4:18

know, kiss up to, I guess, Speaker

4:20

Johnson, or maybe it was worse than

4:22

that. Rhino Gonzalez took

4:24

the opportunity not to call in the

4:27

house to start working for America and

4:29

Americans, but to call out

4:31

those great Republicans who stood up

4:33

to this gross abuse of foreign

4:35

spending. Even going so

4:37

far as calling fellow Republicans members

4:39

of the KKK. How

4:42

many K's in KKK? Three.

4:45

Take a listen to this idiot. Try

4:47

to figure that out. He will survive.

4:49

Look, the house is a rough and rowdy

4:51

place, but Mike Johnson is gonna be just

4:54

fine. I served 20 years in the military.

4:56

It's my absolute honor to be in Congress,

4:58

but I served with some real scumbags. Look,

5:00

Matt Gaetz, he paid minors

5:02

to have sex with him at drug

5:04

parties. Bob Good endorsed my opponent, a

5:07

known neo-Nazi. These people used to walk

5:09

around with white hoods at night. Now

5:11

they're walking around with white hoods in

5:13

the daytime. Gonzalez is not only

5:15

a rhino, but as big a fool as

5:18

Mike Johnson. I don't

5:20

even know why they waste their time

5:22

calling themselves Republicans anymore. They

5:24

are outright Democrats. And

5:27

by the way, they're godless wonders

5:29

without principle. Our

5:31

guest today is attorney Jesse

5:33

Benall. He represents president Trump

5:35

and many of president Trump's

5:37

civil cases. And he worked

5:39

on the 2016 Trump campaign as

5:43

a parliamentary procedure expert. And

5:45

now here is Jesse Benall. And

5:47

Jesse, just great to have

5:49

you with us here. And let's begin

5:52

with the good news. Letitia

5:55

James having thrown

5:58

back in her teeth that there were... There's

6:00

something about the Yahoo, the bomb

6:02

that they're just simply was inordinate

6:05

and unjustified at etc, etc. etc.

6:07

Or it's it's good to see

6:09

her eyes, just the basic plates,

6:11

floundering or as and she should

6:14

have been throughout your thoughts. Yeah,

6:16

that's right. Live with. This was

6:18

a temper tantrum. It's a temper

6:21

tantrum by an attorney General who

6:23

thought that she could ever be

6:25

able to destroy Donald Trump's ah,

6:28

wealth And in New York. City.

6:31

With out him getting have full access

6:33

to is a pallet rights She believes

6:35

very strongly that the process should be

6:38

the punishment and so she found a

6:40

job that was want to go along

6:42

with almost everything that she asked for

6:44

in in a hearing. You know this

6:46

is the judge that thought mirror Lago

6:48

is only worth about eighteen million dollars.

6:50

Which case yeah most people they all

6:53

take ten of them arm. And.

6:55

Ah so. See.

6:58

It through this temper tantrum and said well,

7:00

President Trump was able to come up with

7:02

one hundred and seventy five million dollar Bond

7:04

skill. It's a huge number from us, every

7:06

merrick and to be able to come up

7:09

with in for you again. She said that

7:11

just simply wasn't enough. and it's preposterous. It

7:13

was so preposterous that even Judge Anger on

7:15

who's know friend of Donald Trump who's proven

7:17

himself to be a trumpeter wouldn't even go

7:20

along with a request. This.

7:22

Is is it is starting

7:24

to see the heat of

7:26

the constancy of that he

7:28

or home over years and

7:30

to a campaign to destroy

7:33

the man or and then

7:35

to proceed. oh in the

7:37

New New York judiciary to

7:39

do just just that effort

7:41

or is just amazing. To

7:43

me that says that there's

7:46

no one in the New

7:48

York court system. Cool bridal

7:50

her back at least. bring

7:52

her to heal or a in and

7:54

and suddenly you really discover perhaps that

7:57

there is such a thing as law

7:59

and order Yeah,

8:01

that's exactly what should be happening right now.

8:04

That is what our justice system was designed

8:07

for, is for some, is when you have

8:09

a judge that just goes so far out

8:11

of left field as you have a judge

8:14

anger on, or, you know, when you have

8:16

a prosecutor that is so aggressive, like Letitia

8:18

James, you're supposed to have a judicial system

8:21

that brings them back in line. But

8:23

in too many courthouses right now, there's

8:26

a poison. There's a poison that goes

8:28

beyond just the judges on the bench,

8:30

it goes back to what's going on

8:32

in their chambers. And I've actually been

8:35

back in judicial chambers when this happens.

8:37

But these judges, they talk with each

8:39

other, they talk with their secretaries, their

8:41

judicial assistants, their law clerks. And in

8:44

so many of these places in New

8:46

York, there's such a fervor of hatred

8:48

against Donald Trump that none of them

8:51

can withstand the social

8:53

pressure that goes on in their chambers

8:56

to actually stand up for law and order

8:58

when law and order supports Donald Trump. And

9:01

so that's a really, really difficult thing that

9:03

is very much undermining the rule of law

9:05

in America right now. Certainly

9:08

in America, certainly in New York State.

9:10

I think New York State now has

9:12

proved itself to be the,

9:16

I'm going to, I haven't, I'm sitting

9:18

here thinking there is Illinois, there are

9:20

other states, there is

9:22

California. But in my experience

9:24

and coverage, there is

9:26

no state worse

9:29

than New York. And the

9:31

only place in the United States

9:33

more corrupt in its judiciary is

9:37

the District of Columbia. I

9:39

mean, those are two prize examples

9:41

of just everything our system

9:44

should not be about. Yeah,

9:46

Lou, that's exactly right. And it's no secret

9:48

that that's the reason that, you

9:51

know, these, the

9:53

Biden White House, these

9:56

government bureaucrats that hate Donald Trump, they're doing everything they

9:58

can to make this happen. anything they can

10:00

to bring these cases against Trump in

10:03

New York City and

10:05

Washington, D.C. It's a really

10:07

sad thing because, of course, most of New York State is

10:09

a beautiful place with wonderful people. It just

10:11

happens to be New York City

10:13

that is this swamp, just

10:16

as bad as D.C., where they are just

10:18

absolutely have, so many people have this absolute

10:20

hatred of Donald Trump. And

10:23

so between Washington, D.C. and New York,

10:25

you have these prosecutors and you have

10:27

these judges and it's so sad to

10:29

see judges be a part of this

10:31

that are not, it's

10:33

not good enough for them to have their

10:36

voices heard at the ballot box. They

10:38

want to use their judicial positions,

10:40

their prosecutor positions to try to

10:43

affect the 2024 election and

10:45

to try to take out Donald Trump and

10:47

try to get Joe Biden reelected. That's

10:50

scary. It is

10:53

worrisome to say the least. What

10:55

is equally worrisome is that there

10:57

is no countervailing influence against

11:00

such political corruption and the

11:02

judiciary. And

11:04

in New York, California, I don't

11:07

know how many states on either

11:10

coast actually are engaged

11:12

in this lawfare

11:15

through and through. That is the

11:17

judge, the prosecutor, the

11:19

attorneys, the legal system,

11:21

the associations in every state.

11:24

I mean to see what happened

11:26

to John Eastman in California. What

11:29

is happening to Donald Trump? And not one,

11:32

not two, but three New York courts almost

11:36

simultaneously is beyond

11:38

egregious. It is vicious. It

11:42

is absolutely vicious, Lou,

11:44

and it's where the

11:46

rule of law in America really does go to

11:48

die if we don't protect it. And

11:52

one thing that I think you said

11:54

that's so important is there's not a

11:56

countervailing force here. Unfortunately, the other side,

12:00

feels free to play these games

12:02

and to use their power, this

12:04

power of lawfare to try to destroy Donald

12:06

Trump because they know that Republicans would never

12:09

do the same thing at the shoe or

12:11

on the other foot. Right

12:13

now, there's been unilateral disarmament and

12:15

it's one of the most dangerous things

12:17

out there because every

12:20

time Republicans seem to get control, and we

12:22

see this in Congress, they decide that they're

12:24

going to play nice when the Democrats and

12:26

the left never do. And

12:28

so, one of

12:31

the things that's going to be critically

12:33

important going forward is accountability. I

12:37

truly, truly believe that these

12:39

judges, these prosecutors are

12:41

violating the law. They're

12:44

compromising civil rights under color of

12:47

law. That is a federal offense.

12:50

And if we are to put a stop

12:52

to this once and for all, the only

12:54

way to do that is for there to

12:56

be accountability the next time that when

12:59

Donald Trump is in the White House,

13:01

we need to have a Department of

13:03

Justice that actually goes after these people

13:05

for their lawfare. We need accountability. No

13:08

question about it. And this, by

13:11

the way, resonates of something

13:13

that in the

13:15

2016 election, a locker

13:18

up became a chant across all of

13:20

the rallies. And you could see

13:22

President Trump flinch. That

13:26

did not suit him to even

13:28

think about prosecuting her. And

13:31

he declined to prosecute her, even though it

13:33

was very clear she had committed a number

13:35

of felonies and acts

13:37

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13:39

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13:41

to be forgiving, and here

13:45

is what it's earned him. And

13:48

if the Republican Party and the Trump

13:51

organization has not learned that

13:53

lesson, because it is a

13:56

responsibility, I believe, of this

13:58

president, Donald J. Trump. Trump

14:00

to make certain that there is the accountability

14:02

that you are describing

14:04

at this moment. We're

14:07

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14:09

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And Jesse, I just have to let's

16:56

turn to what is going on at

16:59

this very moment in New York. And

17:01

that is the outrageous

17:05

prosecution of Donald Trump. He

17:07

spent a week in New York

17:10

City. He's got

17:12

more weeks to go it

17:14

looks like. And your

17:17

thoughts about why this case is,

17:21

was ever, how

17:24

did it successfully come

17:26

about for the Marxist left who

17:28

actually mean it to be a

17:30

pure election interference? Joe

17:33

Biden made it happen. And

17:36

specifically what happened is they took

17:38

the number three prosecutor at the

17:41

Department of Justice, the most big

17:43

and powerful law firm in the

17:45

world, and they moved him to

17:48

a county district attorney's office. A

17:51

big county, Manhattan, but it's certainly

17:53

a step down from the Department

17:56

of Justice, being the number

17:58

three at the Department of Justice. He

18:00

was moved to go after

18:02

and get Donald Trump using

18:05

this preposterous legal theory

18:08

that was completely

18:10

devoid, not only of a

18:13

legal basis, but it had no factual

18:15

basis either. It's based primarily on the

18:17

word of Michael Cohen, not

18:19

exactly the most credible man in the world. And

18:22

so they take and they

18:24

move over this prosecutor from Biden's

18:26

Justice Department to the New York

18:30

District Attorney's Office and they bring

18:32

this case and lo and behold,

18:34

it gets transferred to a Trump-hating

18:36

judge, somebody who is donated to

18:39

Joe Biden. And of

18:41

course, he was going to schedule it

18:43

to have maximum political impact to try

18:45

to take Donald Trump off the campaign

18:47

trail. So regardless of what happened to

18:49

trial, he would be able to

18:51

do everything he could to hurt Donald Trump

18:54

when he was running for election as President

18:56

of the United States. And let me just

18:58

say that I have

19:00

never seen before a judge

19:02

make political donations while

19:05

on the bench. It's

19:08

something that is just, it is unheard

19:10

of. And this judge, not

19:12

only has he made political donations, not only has

19:14

he donated to Joe Biden,

19:17

but when he was called out for it, he

19:19

refused to recuse himself. This

19:22

is exactly why we have recusal

19:24

rules. This is the clearest example

19:26

of why recusal is warranted of

19:28

any case I've ever seen in

19:30

my life. And

19:34

not only is he conflicted himself because

19:36

of this, but his daughter is making

19:38

money on this case, an immediate

19:40

family member. This would be a bad movie.

19:43

This would be a bad B movie that

19:45

wouldn't be believable if it was in Hollywood

19:47

just because it's so preposterous to think that

19:49

it would happen this way. And again, the

19:52

American people know that what is happening in

19:54

New York is not

19:57

justice. This judge is not dispensing.

19:59

He's using justice from the bench.

20:01

He's using his courtroom for politics and

20:03

it's disgusting. It is

20:06

disgusting and it is so over the top.

20:08

It is so the

20:11

hyperbolic partisanship

20:14

of the Marxist Dems in New York,

20:17

as you said, it's the

20:19

feeding ground for all

20:21

of this because it is so

20:24

corrupt politically. It is so corrupt

20:26

in so many ways, that is

20:28

Manhattan, New York, go

20:30

to Fulton County, Georgia.

20:33

I mean, it's rancid with corruption. At

20:37

some point, and then I

20:39

don't want to let the federal judiciary out

20:41

here, I mean, DC

20:44

is appalling. It could be, this

20:46

is not the

20:49

nation's capital. This

20:51

could not be the nation's capital

20:53

of the greatest constitutional Republican history.

20:56

It is a cesspool of

20:59

corruption and political, an

21:03

attempt at political assassination. Yeah,

21:07

Lou, that's exactly what's going on. And let's

21:09

talk about why Washington DC is like this.

21:12

Washington DC was supposed to be a town

21:15

where people came from across America

21:17

for a small amount of times

21:19

to be able to represent the

21:21

people in those various states, from

21:24

Florida to

21:26

New York to Wisconsin.

21:29

And that's what DC was supposed

21:32

to be. But instead, this permanent

21:34

bureaucracy developed and this permanent bureaucracy

21:36

that makes up 95% plus of

21:38

the federal workforce is

21:40

now what controls Washington

21:42

DC. And when Donald

21:44

Trump became the first president in ages

21:46

to push back on the power of

21:49

the bureaucrats, they decided they were going

21:51

to have their revenge on him. And

21:54

so when you have these cases that

21:56

are brought by DC prosecutors, like Jack

21:58

Smith, DC courtroom

22:00

with a DC judge who has

22:03

made it very clear how much

22:05

she hates Donald Trump, then

22:08

you know what the result is

22:10

going to be. There's no doubt

22:12

about what the result is going

22:14

to be and that these people

22:16

do everything they possibly can to

22:18

use, again, use their judicial power

22:20

to take down Donald Trump. And

22:22

that's why we need serious reforms

22:24

in our judicial system in order

22:26

to make sure this can never

22:28

happen again. It cannot be Washington

22:31

DC bureaucrats and people that come

22:33

up in that bureaucracy, including Tonya

22:35

Chutkin, who decide they're going to

22:37

dictate the law to the American

22:39

people. It has to be back

22:42

to our constitutional roots where America decides

22:44

what Washington DC is going to do.

22:46

It's not Washington DC deciding what America

22:48

is going to do. Tonya

22:51

Chutkin, the federal judge in

22:54

the Trump case, it

22:56

seems to me backed off a bit because

22:58

the Supreme Court is going to be ruling

23:00

the appellate court. The

23:03

appellate courts are going to be ruling. And

23:06

while I'm not hopeful, I'm not optimistic,

23:09

I do reserve the possibility that

23:13

conscience could strike on

23:15

any one of those courts.

23:18

I don't know what the odds of that are. But

23:21

definitely, there

23:24

is a reason to at least accept that

23:27

there is a probability, a possibility that

23:30

somehow there will be

23:32

a restoration of ethics. And we're

23:35

talking with Jesse Van Aal, the

23:37

president's attorney, and we're going to

23:39

be right back after these words. We're going

23:41

to find out what's it going to take

23:43

to straighten out this legal system because it's

23:45

no small, small measure required.

23:48

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25:02

and a Jesse the President's Attorney and

25:04

I want to. Just there's one thing

25:06

that just really just makes me furious.

25:09

because as you might guess, I'm kind

25:11

of interested in the public's right to

25:13

know I'm interested in a speech mightily

25:15

are. And for this Judge Merchant to

25:18

to apply are a gag order here

25:20

are is sweeping, particularly as he did.

25:23

Why do these. Why?

25:25

Do these creeps? think

25:28

that they have to have a gag order? What

25:31

makes them think that they're so

25:33

above the rest of us that

25:35

they need special protection from a

25:38

former President of the United States, the presumptive

25:41

nominee of the

25:43

Republican party for President, the

25:46

leading candidate for President?

25:48

Who do they think they are?

25:51

Who do they think they are? That's

25:53

exactly right because the founders looked at

25:55

these gag orders specifically when they drafted

25:57

the First Amendment. This is one of

25:59

the One of the things the founders were

26:01

particularly concerned about is something called prior restraints

26:04

on speech, an injunction against you being able

26:06

to say what's on your mind, especially when

26:08

it came to matters of policy and politics.

26:12

That's why they gave us the First Amendment, is to

26:14

protect us against that. The Supreme Court has recognized that

26:16

before. The Supreme Court has even said that the Washington

26:18

Post and the New York Times couldn't

26:20

be prohibited by the government

26:23

from publishing classified information during

26:25

a war because

26:28

it would be a prior restraint on

26:30

speech. But there are a lot

26:32

of these judges that believe that there's a Trump

26:34

exception to the rule of law. There's

26:36

a Trump exception to the Constitution. What

26:39

they know and why this is so important to them is

26:42

because they know

26:44

that Donald Trump has been calling them

26:46

out, calling out their hypocrisy, calling out

26:49

their parse and bias. They

26:51

want to do everything they can to put a

26:53

muzzle on him because they know that the American

26:55

people are sick of this. They

26:57

want to try to stop this information from

26:59

getting to the American people. There's

27:02

a famous quote that violations of

27:04

free speech are a double sin because

27:07

it affects not only the rights of

27:09

the speaker, it affects

27:11

the rights of the listener. It affects the

27:13

rights of people to get information. That's

27:16

why these gag orders are so incredibly dangerous.

27:19

Well, for example, right now,

27:22

we've got Elon Musk parading

27:24

around talking about freedom of

27:27

speech. It's

27:29

a joke. What he is

27:31

running is an operation in that

27:33

platform now that is starting to

27:36

approach levels of prior restraint that

27:39

are unimaginable until

27:41

we saw Twitter suddenly align

27:43

itself with the FBI, the

27:46

Department of Justice and the

27:48

intelligence agencies. And I

27:50

don't know whether or not Elon Musk has done gone

27:52

that far. But I can tell you this.

27:54

He is shadow banning me and he

27:56

shadow banning me because I have a particular

27:58

point of view that is. Well,

28:01

a little different than his.

28:03

For example, he wanted TikTok

28:06

to be, as a matter

28:08

of free speech, to be given free reign

28:10

in the United States. This is a

28:13

foreign-owned company, and by the

28:15

way, it has responsibilities to

28:17

the CCP, to

28:19

the PLA, and is, last

28:22

I heard, Xi Jinping

28:24

still wanted to go to war with the United States

28:26

somewhere between 2025 and 2027, and he said it publicly.

28:31

I mean, this is madness that we're watching. It

28:35

is, Lou, and as we see more and

28:37

more attacks on freedom of

28:39

speech right now, and that includes freedom

28:42

of speech when you have

28:44

these social media organizations that

28:46

have a near

28:48

monopoly on the ability to

28:51

get your message out, and they're able to

28:53

take either directly shutting people out or, like

28:55

you're saying, shadow banning. This is something that

28:57

I think is very, very concerning and something

29:00

that we really need to push back on

29:03

as Americans because, I mean,

29:06

luckily, there's platforms out there like Truth

29:08

Social, which I think are excellent, that

29:10

don't do that. And

29:14

so one of the things we can do as

29:16

Americans right now, I think, is to spend

29:19

more time on some of those platforms as

29:22

well. There's got to be

29:24

accountability for anybody that tries to shut up Americans,

29:26

especially when you're doing it, to the benefit of

29:28

a foreign power. Without

29:30

question. And as we look

29:33

at the situation that we now

29:35

have in this country, you talked about

29:37

the pervasive, and I did as well,

29:40

the pervasive corruption of

29:42

our judicial system, our legal

29:44

profession. The American

29:46

Banker Association, American Banker,

29:48

the American Bar Association,

29:51

will not

29:53

step up, but where they do step

29:55

up, they mean to destroy free speech

29:57

and the right to free expression and

29:59

representation. of anyone. I mean,

30:01

I've never seen, I've actually experienced

30:04

this major,

30:06

big law, as they're called, major firms,

30:08

the most prestigious firms in the country,

30:12

absolutely, carrying out a ban against

30:14

anyone that was pro-Trump, because that's

30:16

not good for their corporate

30:20

and globalist clientele. It

30:23

is remarkable to me the degree to

30:25

which we have descended in

30:28

terms of legal

30:30

rights. Yeah, that's

30:32

exactly right. And this lack of

30:35

access to justice, if

30:37

you are a Trump supporting American, is

30:39

something that's very, very dangerous. It's something

30:41

that when lawyers in this country have

30:44

stopped being willing to represent

30:46

people because of their political beliefs, it's

30:48

something that is extremely dangerous. Now, it's

30:51

something that I quite frankly have taken

30:53

advantage of because the fact that these

30:55

big law firms are refusing to represent

30:57

good Americans, made it so I

30:59

could go out and get some of the best legal

31:01

talent in the world. And we've been

31:04

able to go and represent some

31:06

people and get some great

31:08

results. But the fact is, we can't do it all

31:10

on our own. And we need to get back to

31:13

something along the lines of what happens

31:15

in the UK. And it's sad to say

31:17

that the UK is better than we are,

31:20

but they have some people, the cab, I

31:22

know, right? They

31:24

have to be speaking of a place

31:26

where there's no free speech. Right, right.

31:29

But on this, on legal access, they're

31:31

better because they have something called the

31:33

cab rank rule. And they don't actually

31:35

turn people away. Because of

31:37

for instance, their political positions, they

31:39

believe everyone is entitled to legal

31:42

representation. And that's critically important for

31:44

our for our constitutional republic to

31:46

flourish. And

31:48

I, you know, I'm somewhat

31:50

older than you. But

31:52

I think even as as

31:55

young as you are, you will recall

31:57

the days in which the the

31:59

progressive left. as they call them,

32:01

their Marxist now. They

32:04

prided themselves on their tolerance. They

32:06

call for greater tolerance in our

32:08

society. And they have become the

32:11

scorched earth party. And

32:14

they mean to devastate anyone who dares

32:16

to speak up with values

32:18

and views different than their own. And that

32:20

is a sad, sad place. I

32:23

have to tell you, Jesse, we're delighted

32:25

that you're representing the president. We

32:27

wish you a continued great success as

32:29

you do so and, and beyond.

32:32

And hope you'll come back here soon to talk.

32:35

Appreciate it. I can't wait to join you again, Lou.

32:37

Thank you. Be sure to join

32:39

us here tomorrow for the Great America Show.

32:41

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32:43

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32:53

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32:55

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