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your entire order. Hello,
1:04
everybody, and welcome to The Great America Show. Good
1:06
to have you with us. It's
1:08
been another rough start to the week for George
1:11
Soros sponsored DA Alvin Bragg
1:14
and his show trial. Michael
1:17
Cohen back on the stand yesterday
1:19
where he admitted under oath that
1:21
he stole money from the Trump
1:23
organization. Cohen said he was
1:26
sent $50,000 to pay a pollster. And
1:30
instead of paying the 50 Cohen
1:32
paid him 20 and kept 30
1:34
for himself. Now in the
1:37
eyes of most all of us, that
1:40
is stealing straight up stealing.
1:42
But if you ask Lawrence O'Donnell of
1:45
MSNBC, he'll tell you that was a
1:47
bonus that Michael Cohen
1:49
deserved. And I'm not joking.
1:52
That's what Lawrence O'Donnell is
1:54
made up. Take a listen. irrelevant
2:00
to the $130,000 and
2:03
that's where he very effectively got
2:05
Michael Cohen to say to agree
2:07
that yes, he stole $30,000. Later,
2:11
when Cohen was asked about that on
2:13
redirect by the prosecution, it
2:15
didn't really sound like stealing $30,000. It
2:18
sounded a lot like Michael Cohen doing
2:20
the little that he
2:23
could within that calculation to
2:25
rebalance the bonus he thought
2:27
he deserved and it still came out
2:30
as less than the bonus he thought he deserved and
2:32
the bonus he got in here before. Only
2:35
on MSNBC do you get a
2:37
defense of a crook like Cohen.
2:40
Cohen was also not shying away from
2:43
the fact he's a pathological liar. He
2:46
was asked by Trump attorney, Todd
2:48
Blanche, about a statement he had
2:50
previously made in which
2:52
he said he would lie to a
2:54
jury if it were to affect his
2:56
personal life. Cohen said
2:58
flat out he stands by that
3:00
statement and would lie to a jury.
3:04
Cohen also told Blanche he has
3:06
a financial interest in the outcome
3:08
of this case and is mulling
3:10
a run for Congress. This
3:12
stuff is beyond
3:14
pathological. It's almost
3:17
like scripted for Hollywood where
3:19
pathological people, well, they just do
3:22
very well there. And
3:24
the International Criminal Court, you've heard
3:26
of them in The Hague, they've
3:28
issued an arrest warrant for Israeli
3:31
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for crimes
3:33
against the Hamas terrorists. You
3:35
can't make this up either. Public
3:38
President Joe Biden says the United States
3:40
fundamentally rejects the ICC's
3:42
effort to issue
3:45
arrest warrants for Netanyahu or
3:47
any senior Israeli official. Netanyahu
3:50
says the warrants are a moral
3:52
outrage of historic proportions and that
3:54
Israel has a right to defend
3:56
itself. The outrageous decision by
3:59
the ICC process. computer Karim Khan to
4:01
seek arrest warrants against the democratically elected
4:03
leaders of Israel is
4:06
a moral outrage of historic
4:08
proportions. It will
4:10
cast an everlasting mark of shame on
4:12
the international court. Israel
4:15
is waging a just war against Hamas, a
4:17
genocidal terrorist organization that perpetrated
4:19
the worst attack on the
4:21
Jewish people since the Holocaust.
4:24
Hamas massacred 1200 Jews, raped
4:27
Jewish women, burned Jewish babies, took
4:30
hundreds hostage. Now
4:32
in the face of these horrors, Mr.
4:34
Khan creates a twisted and false moral
4:37
equivalence between the leaders of Israel and
4:39
the henchmen of Hamas. This
4:42
is like creating a moral equivalence
4:44
after September 11th between President Bush
4:46
and Osama bin Laden or during
4:48
World War II between FDR and
4:50
Hitler. What a travesty of
4:52
justice. What a disgrace. The
4:54
prosecutors absurd charges against me and Israel's
4:56
defense minister are merely
4:59
an attempt to deny Israel the basic
5:01
right of self-defense. Well, to take up
5:03
all of this in the latest style
5:05
of Iran, we asked foreign policy expert
5:08
Walid Faris to join us to
5:10
break it all down. Joining
5:12
us now, Walid Faris and Walid,
5:15
let me turn to the
5:18
death of Rasi in
5:20
Iran in fog
5:23
and the mountainous area.
5:26
Do you believe it was an accident? Your
5:29
example? No, it
5:31
could be. So there are two options.
5:33
Option one is that there was a
5:35
mechanical failure and collapse. Option
5:37
number two is that somebody actually played
5:39
with the engine or with other parts
5:43
of the small helicopter and then that
5:45
became actually an accident. But the system
5:47
is the fact that this is
5:49
a passage between mountains, helicopters planes have been
5:52
taken that route for many, many months
5:54
and years and they know exactly what are
5:56
the angles to use or when not to
5:58
go and there could be the
6:01
other aspect of somebody told them, you can
6:03
go and while the situation is really dire.
6:05
But the most important point is that this
6:07
is a convoy of three helicopters, and
6:10
they were accompanying the third helicopter in
6:12
the center. And then now that
6:15
helicopter goes down and the two copters continue
6:17
like this. They don't go back and circle
6:19
around. So the Iranians had to spend about
6:21
nine, nine hours to find it. But all
6:23
of that will be resolved one day. I
6:25
don't think the Iranian Islamic Republic is going
6:27
to give us that information. But that is
6:30
against a backdrop rule. And the backdrop is
6:32
a struggle that everybody in Iran knew about
6:34
between the office of the
6:36
presidency, Raisi. And then the highest
6:38
offices in the Islamic Republic is
6:40
Khamenei-e. And what was it about? About
6:43
struggle for power. Khamenei-e, who is getting
6:45
much, much older and he's sick as
6:48
well, wanted his son Khamenei-e Jr. to
6:50
become the president. So that would actually
6:52
allow us to think that this may
6:55
have been a struggle within the Islamic
6:57
Republic. And
6:59
to the degree that this is
7:01
the case, what
7:04
is the what are the next few
7:06
weeks to look like? Is if this
7:08
is an open power struggle, what
7:11
happens? Here's the problem.
7:14
Raisi was in a position as a president
7:16
to talk to whomever he wanted. So he
7:19
was already at a certain altitude. He even
7:21
thought that he could be speaking with some
7:23
units of the army. He's not doing a
7:25
revolution. He's just concentrating powers in his hand.
7:28
Now, let me say it first time now
7:30
today on broadcast. There is so
7:32
much money in Iran. We're talking
7:35
about one hundred and fifty billion dollars.
7:37
And you're the top man on analysis
7:39
of the financial world. That
7:41
is going by itself to generate struggle.
7:43
Who's going to be in control of
7:45
that money? Huge money. Raisi or the
7:48
next ayatollah, which may have prompted this.
7:50
Now, that's where he see his dad
7:52
was killed or not. We don't know.
7:55
It's going to be a Islamic Republic
7:57
on steroids for the next. I don't
7:59
know. 48 days,
8:01
they're gonna be normal, they're gonna have a
8:04
transition, and then the elections, and you know
8:06
how the elections work in Iran, they will
8:08
create those elections. And then
8:10
when that happens, they're gonna have an alignment
8:12
between the presidency and between the top Islamic
8:14
job, and that
8:17
country, that government, that regime will
8:19
be on steroid against us, against
8:21
Israel, against the Iranian population. And
8:24
by the time they know that the Biden administration
8:26
is not gonna do anything between
8:28
now, at least in January, the end of
8:30
January of 2025. That's
8:32
the problem. And how
8:35
long will it take to see that settle? How
8:37
many weeks or months do
8:39
you think it will take for Iran to sort of
8:42
settle where they're going to
8:44
go? The ayatollahs, who
8:46
will be their choice? What
8:48
will be the election? When will the election
8:51
be? There are 50
8:53
days for the election, so it's running, the clock
8:55
is running at this point in time, so I
8:57
do not expect that they're gonna do something dramatic
8:59
between now and the election that would not be
9:01
to their advantage. But there's
9:03
gonna be a convergence between two things. They're
9:05
difficult to say, but that's how I see
9:07
it. Number one, to consolidate their power, grab
9:10
all these positions, make sure that their own
9:12
regard is in their pockets, they will promise
9:14
them money. But second, that
9:16
we in the United States with this
9:18
weak administration are having towards our election
9:20
so it becomes very weak in
9:23
terms of foreign policy. We are already weak,
9:25
we'll become mega weak as we get closer,
9:27
and do you know, God
9:29
knows what this administration and their supporters
9:31
are preparing for these elections. We had
9:33
a huge example in 2020. So
9:37
the United States won't be in a
9:39
position really between now and early
9:41
November to do much on foreign policy. This
9:43
is the time where I feel
9:45
that the next regime in Iran will do
9:47
whatever it wants to do in the region,
9:49
even here at home in the United States
9:51
if they would so. And
9:55
they're spectacle of Europe, sending
9:57
their condolences to Tehran. I
10:00
mean, over the death of the butcher
10:02
of Tehran himself, Reisi.
10:05
And this
10:07
look, it's got a peculiar
10:09
look and sense to it.
10:12
People are just leaders, European leaders
10:14
in particular, falling all
10:16
over themselves. Was
10:18
Europe really that weak,
10:22
that I don't
10:25
know, subservient at this
10:27
point to the threats
10:29
of Iran, to Russia? I mean,
10:31
what else could they do? They
10:34
are way beyond that, though, they
10:36
actually Europe as institutions has fallen.
10:39
Has fallen to what? With the billions
10:41
of dollars they have been actually contracting
10:43
or as a transaction with the Iran
10:46
regime. And we think then when the
10:48
West sends $150 billion to the Islamic
10:50
Republic, that they're going to put it
10:52
at the service of the middle class. No,
10:54
there are brokers and those
10:56
brokers are sometimes seen, sometimes unseen behind
10:59
the executive power. They make 10% with
11:01
me. That's
11:03
$15 billion over the past few years. You
11:06
could establish the mother of all lobbies with
11:08
that. And then when, as you said, we
11:10
look at these officials of the EU
11:12
or others and even our State Department
11:15
being so concerned about the loss of
11:17
the president and they are usually largest
11:19
seeing him as his major leader
11:22
in the region. That is
11:24
exactly the map we need to see. I was speaking
11:26
with members of families
11:28
of hostages inside Iranian jails, Islamic
11:30
Republic jails, and they were telling
11:32
me that shows who has
11:34
been impacted, who has been influenced. We have a
11:37
real map of those who issued those statements
11:39
in Europe and in the United States who must
11:41
have been, I think, have
11:44
been influenced by the Iran deal and
11:46
its dividend. Now,
11:49
it's outrageous. And
11:52
we're going to take a quick break. But when we
11:54
come back, I'd like to get your views
11:56
about what in the world, the International Criminal Court with The
11:58
Hague, is going to be a very important issue. is doing,
12:01
why has it been so emboldened that
12:04
it would go after Benjamin
12:07
Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of
12:09
Israel, and the top Hamas
12:11
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12:13
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Walid Farris and Walid this
15:09
international court going after Benjamin Netanyahu
15:11
is fascinating to me. It's
15:14
a united nations
15:17
adjunct if you will and
15:19
it is really delusional. It
15:23
is also where the
15:26
the Hague is also where the
15:28
special counsel Jack Smith used to
15:30
hang out doing what
15:32
and why was he there to begin with.
15:35
But now they've decided that they
15:38
have apparently sufficient military power to
15:41
go out and
15:43
arrest Benjamin Netanyahu.
15:46
Who are these fools and what should we do
15:48
about them? Well that's
15:50
one of the problems major problems
15:52
that international institutions have been facing
15:55
the influence of the radicals around
15:57
the world again including the.
15:59
influence of the Iran deal money are
16:02
all over the place, not just in
16:04
courts, in media, in academia, we've seen
16:06
what they've been doing in this
16:08
nation. But where were
16:10
those judges or that counsel,
16:12
all due respect, when Assad
16:15
of Syria killed more
16:17
than 450,000 people? Where?
16:19
Why are they not talking about
16:22
Darfur's genocide? Just last year, hundreds
16:24
of thousands of that Sudanese
16:28
members of tribes have been killed by
16:30
militias, by jihad, not a word from
16:32
the ICC. What happened to them when
16:35
all these executions in Iran have been
16:37
taking place and people tortured? This
16:39
is not really a judiciary decision.
16:42
This is basically like saying
16:44
in 2001, we are going
16:46
to induct George Bush on the
16:48
one hand and of course the head of
16:50
Al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden. That is crazy.
16:53
That decision is crazy. It shows
16:55
that our international law, the institutions
16:57
of our international law have been
16:59
politicized, unfortunately, to a point where
17:01
a very strange decision is to
17:04
bring in the leaders of
17:06
Israel, a democratic nation, and
17:08
to compare them with the heads of Terros Hamas.
17:10
This is unseen, unheard of. Yeah,
17:12
unheard of. Is it time
17:15
to bulldoze the
17:17
United Nations building on the east
17:19
side of Manhattan? There
17:21
are two ways of thinking about it. Some
17:23
people, they lost hope in all institutions and
17:26
want to do some political bulldozing. Some other
17:28
people, I belong to that other wing, they
17:30
say, no, we're going to go in. We're
17:32
going to actually go in with the
17:35
new administration. There's going to be change
17:37
in Latin America, change in Europe, and
17:39
that new international community needs to absolutely
17:42
reform and push back against those radical
17:44
influences across the board, not just the
17:46
UN, but anything UN affiliated. I mean,
17:49
look at those human, said humanitarian agencies
17:51
in Gaza or in Lebanon, Hezbollah, they're filled
17:54
with actual members of the jihadist organization. So
17:56
there are two ways to look at it.
17:58
If you have hope, You go
18:00
and you reform it. If you don't have hope,
18:02
then your option would be the last one. Yeah,
18:06
I'm definitely in the bulldozer
18:10
group without any question. But
18:13
let's go to Europe. Morning
18:16
the death of a terrorist,
18:18
one of the leaders of
18:21
a state sponsor, the
18:23
world's greatest state sponsor of
18:25
terrorism. What kind
18:28
of game is it that the
18:30
Europeans are playing? And
18:32
why don't we make much of it? Because
18:35
it's really to me both
18:37
irrational and
18:40
frankly morally bankrupt of them to
18:42
do so. I would
18:44
go with the morally dimension
18:48
because it seems that after reconstruction, what
18:50
has been happening, it's really about money
18:52
and financial interests. As I said, you're
18:54
the expert on this when you have
18:56
so much, so many billions that
18:59
goes to the regime and so much
19:01
money that the Taliban have now or other Islamist
19:03
and you have this or even of course you
19:05
have China and Russia. It's a different story. But
19:08
that money becomes an international fund
19:12
to influence these institutions,
19:14
these governments. And
19:16
these are actually financial interests behind
19:18
the government. They're having business in
19:20
Iran. You have all these companies
19:22
in Europe that are completely doing
19:25
business with the Iran regime. And
19:27
therefore, obviously they can put pressure on their
19:29
politicians. They could put pressure on the executives,
19:31
on the members of the legislatures
19:34
and ask them to
19:36
give importance and celebrity
19:38
status to the fallen,
19:40
to the president of that regime
19:43
who has been, as you just
19:45
said, a few minutes ago, responsible
19:47
for the execution, for the execution
19:49
of tens of thousands of Iranian
19:52
citizens, men, females,
19:54
kids and elderly over the years.
19:56
So this is unthinkable, another unthinkable
19:58
matter that has been done. by
20:00
these institutions and portraiture. And
20:03
let's turn to the Chinese now
20:06
and the network that
20:09
we've, that's been revealed
20:11
between China, the
20:13
CCP, and these
20:16
various pro-Hamas groups that are demonstrating
20:18
rioting all across America. You're
20:20
right. You're right. Well,
20:22
first of all, first of all, the
20:25
actual organizers of
20:27
the riots or the jihad or
20:29
the empty fathers that have been
20:31
happening on our campuses from sea
20:33
to shining sea, are the
20:36
supporters of the Islamic Republic. But
20:38
the Islamic Republic has a strategic
20:40
agreement with the government
20:42
of China. Two years ago, they
20:45
signed an agreement, billions of dollars
20:47
that China will provide them with
20:49
protection and support and buy their oil and all
20:52
of that. So you
20:54
have a cooperation between the two. Those
20:56
who have the people on the ground are
20:58
mostly the jihadists, the Iranians and others, and
21:00
those who have the cash, you
21:02
know, go to China, the big bank where we have
21:05
our trillions of dollars, as we all know. So
21:07
that's how it works. But all of
21:09
that is coming as a result
21:11
of the weakness that we have in
21:13
Washington. This did not
21:15
happen under the previous president, President
21:18
Trump, not even under the President
21:21
Bush at the time. So when these
21:23
radical forces basically feel
21:25
that there is a sort of a
21:27
weakness in the center or an influence
21:30
that could push back against
21:32
what the administration wants to see happening,
21:34
then that's what they do. Well,
21:37
Ed Faris, we're talking with Dr. Raul
21:39
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well, let me ask you, the
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CIA involvement right down the Middle
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East, how concentrated is it?
23:42
We've seen William Burns lead the
23:46
efforts to create a ceasefire.
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It's odd that the CIA director would be
23:52
the one to be doing that rather than
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the Secretary of State or
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an ambassador or an emissary from
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state. Your thoughts about
24:01
what that means symbolically
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to the Middle East, all parties, whether it
24:06
be Israel, whether it be Iran, whom ever,
24:09
what does it mean for the United States to put
24:12
William Burns into the head of
24:14
the talks on a ceasefire? That's
24:18
a great question, Lou. Very few people
24:20
understand how the Middle East perceives that,
24:22
why actually those regimes would like to
24:24
sit down with the head of our
24:27
intelligence agencies and not with our diplomats,
24:29
because that's the Middle Eastern thing. When
24:32
you use the term muhabara, intelligence of security
24:34
agencies in the Middle East, people say, well,
24:37
that's really where decisions are made. That's
24:39
not the case in liberal
24:41
democracies or democracy, Western democracies. The
24:44
problem is, at this point in
24:46
time, is that those agencies
24:48
that we have, which should
24:50
also inform Congress about everything's happening,
24:53
are given instructions by the teams who
24:55
are working with the executive. If
24:58
the team that is working basically
25:00
on the Iran dossier, the Iran
25:02
deal dossier, that team would influence
25:04
the president. This is the right way
25:06
to do it. That team, most likely, is the one who
25:08
says, well, if you want to send a real message, you
25:11
don't send the State Department, you send
25:13
the CIA. That's dangerous, dangerous for the
25:15
CIA to be politicized, because then
25:18
they are uncovering who they are, who are
25:20
their friends, so on and so forth. That's
25:22
dangerous also for our allies on the ground
25:24
and dangerous also for our constitutional order. We
25:28
are clearly separating the powers, but when
25:30
you ask one of these
25:32
agencies that is supposed to be secretive
25:34
and not public, to become public in
25:36
negotiations instead of the State Department, all
25:38
the other way around, if you ask
25:40
the other agencies, like the diplomacy agencies
25:43
to do secret work, then we're going to have
25:46
the same result. I think that has to be
25:48
reformed, that has to be reorganized, and that has
25:50
to be corrupted. And
25:53
as we wrap up here, Walid, give
25:55
us your sense of just how
25:57
much disruption, instability you expect. between
26:01
now and Election Day
26:03
and assuming that President
26:05
Trump is elected and
26:08
can restore that stability, can
26:11
restore, if
26:13
you will, domestically law and order, and
26:17
some sort of stability
26:20
to the international
26:23
gathering of countries and
26:25
communities. Well, number
26:27
two, let me visit number two, a
26:29
Trump administration or a different administration that
26:31
would change the policies, foreign
26:33
policies of the United States and national security
26:35
policies of the United States is a must.
26:38
I even say if this administration in
26:40
the last 10 years of its
26:42
life before elections, I mean, will
26:45
change, I'm for it. But they're not going
26:47
to change because the interests are so
26:49
large. So a second or another administration
26:51
that could be at this point in
26:54
time, it's decided would be headed by
26:56
President Trump, is needed in the
26:58
region. We need to reestablish
27:00
the Abraham accord. We need to
27:02
actually contain the Iran Islamic regime.
27:04
We need to stop the war
27:06
in Ukraine. We need a
27:08
long list, but he needs that other administration coming
27:11
needs also the best people to help them and
27:13
people who are loyal to these goals. That's
27:16
not what's not the case in
27:19
2017 to 2020. Having said that,
27:21
I would say the real concern
27:23
is not what would a next
27:25
Trump administration do. It's the
27:27
bridge to get there. I still have
27:30
concern. That's not my field, but I've seen and
27:32
lived through 2020. I have
27:35
a concern that there could be
27:37
a lot of instabilities before getting to
27:39
the elections and some instability from the
27:41
elections to have an
27:43
administration for the reason that all of us
27:45
know. It's like this opposition, this radical
27:48
opposition for any alternative to
27:50
the Obama Biden policies.
27:53
And as you say, there's no
27:55
doubt we are watching the third
27:58
term of Barack Obama. in
28:00
this hapless and inept Biden
28:03
regime, a puppet only,
28:05
and his masters unwaveringly,
28:10
Marxist, and they mean to
28:12
destroy this country without any
28:14
question whatsoever. That's
28:17
a question that has to be confronted first by
28:19
Donald Trump. And I
28:21
think we're truly at an existential demarcation
28:25
in this November 5th election. I
28:27
don't believe there will be another
28:29
election if President Trump
28:31
were to be denied election
28:34
again. Your thoughts on that? He
28:37
has to win. And I think the numbers now
28:39
shows. I remember in all previous elections, since I
28:41
became an American citizen, you would know more or
28:43
less where the numbers are going. And
28:45
those numbers are becoming more dramatic for
28:48
both sides. So what is it
28:50
that's going to come? Like between now
28:52
and November and change these numbers
28:54
other than some super
28:58
natural political thing, which will
29:00
be pressure applied of
29:03
the kind of demonstrations of the kind of
29:05
political guerrilla that took place in the summer
29:07
of 2020. And then the heels of the
29:09
empty fathers that took place, I am very
29:12
concerned that someone some force is going to
29:14
use these empty father, she had the
29:16
Hamas forces into our end to disturb
29:18
our election. That's my real concern at this point
29:20
in time. And it's one that
29:22
I happen to share as well. Wally
29:25
Farris, good to see you. Appreciate it and
29:27
look forward to our next conversation. Thanks so
29:30
much. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks
29:32
to Waleed. And thanks, everybody, for being with
29:34
us today. Be sure to join us tomorrow
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