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ones and twos, it's the day after the

1:27

first round of the Nfl draft. A record

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breaking my A Puzzling Night Michael Lombardo, you

1:32

pet now had some time to sleep on

1:34

it. How. You feel about the

1:36

team building that we saw yesterday night

1:38

or last that I should say in

1:40

Detroit? Well you know the Falcons continue

1:42

to dazzle me. I mean Terry Superbowl

1:45

winning G M fought know a little

1:47

crew was remarkable and Kaiser so say

1:49

Mckay was nowhere near to be found

1:51

in the draft or him. Look, I

1:53

think. Everybody. Was.

1:55

In our was shocked by what the Falcons did.

1:58

But the. Real the of

2:00

what the falcons did. Goes.

2:02

More to their lack of preparation

2:04

and planning than the actual pick.

2:07

Okay for me. It's.

2:10

No problem to draft Michael. Panic. See

2:12

a pick in the draft? Michael Takes

2:14

is a really good player. The problem

2:16

is you had the eighth pick in

2:18

the draft when the season was over

2:20

on January the forties. What was fought

2:22

know? Superbowl winning Gm fought know doing.

2:24

With. His twenty one wins collected in

2:27

his pockets. What was he doing during

2:29

the fall? And. Up until that

2:31

point when he was watching south and games

2:33

knowing that he needed a quarterback. Okay,

2:35

He know he knew he needed a quarterback. I

2:38

beat. It was pretty odd. You know, Mystery? That

2:40

no mystery? So you're out scouting. You

2:42

know this is a quarterback draft. You got

2:44

a lotta guys bone except the Heisman, Jaden

2:47

Daniels. You don't know where it's all gonna

2:49

play out, but you you can't have a

2:51

sense of it. To me where you have

2:54

to be really critical of the Falcons here

2:56

is their lack of preparation, the lack of

2:58

long range planning, and their lack of a

3:00

vision. Because. Why sign

3:03

Kirk Cousins and pay him ninety million

3:05

and trap your team into a situation

3:07

that they did when you have the

3:10

eighth pick and you want to pick

3:12

Michael tax. Bill and. I

3:14

don't want to hear this bullshit that. Well,

3:16

we went out to Washington on a cold,

3:18

windy days. He threw the ball really wealth.

3:20

Well, that's an indictment of you Superbowl winning

3:22

Gm Terry Far no fuss because you've never.

3:24

You should have been out there to watch

3:26

him play. You should have seen him in

3:28

your office. You should have seen every goddamn

3:31

tape on every quarterbacks before the end of

3:33

the season. You know you're drafting a quarterback

3:35

like this, isn't We're gonna react to what?

3:37

what were you doing Monday through Saturday in

3:39

October, Or. You don't' Besides.

3:42

Rip in our arthur were ripping Arthur Smith,

3:44

everybody you could rip on to what were

3:46

you doing besides leaking stuff, the sex worker

3:48

Sam for the columns like what the hell

3:50

were you doing. Like. That's your

3:52

job is to protect the franchise. but

3:55

when I don't understand semi and this

3:57

is really what's his.other hard part. Is.

4:00

The job of an owner. He's. To

4:02

as really good question. So let's play

4:04

a game or it. You're. Terrified

4:06

know I'm Arthur Blank. How are you

4:08

selling me on this pic after I

4:10

just gave you ninety million guaranteed you

4:12

cost me a yard. How are you

4:15

selling me on this? When I see

4:17

as well, Mister Blake This is a

4:19

guy that in forty five years if

4:21

he can be a top level quarterback

4:23

for five years. School

4:26

if you've if we give you a top level quarterback

4:28

and we all saw a guy that we did side

4:30

of come up with a to leave steve little bit

4:33

older us or wherever your mother money is coming off

4:35

an achilles. Ninety million

4:37

My. because. Either

4:39

author questions that are asking but with a quarterback that

4:41

we believe in and we want to go ahead I

4:43

can you believe in I'm in December, January or February.

4:46

Watches are the boys little now. Why put out what

4:48

I have to take money out of my account? The

4:50

pay this guy. Was. Where is

4:52

the answer these questions? But none of

4:54

it makes sense. It's. A

4:56

reasonable not make assets and say look

4:58

you have every right to pick panic sedate

5:01

know ones that are you with the

5:03

I said before the draft look to

5:05

in don't criticize any These quarterback picks do

5:07

not. You don't know as much as

5:09

a teams do. But

5:11

quarterbacks. Are not like

5:13

defensive lineman. You. Can't player,

5:15

You can't rotate. I'm through so spot

5:18

knows bathing. As a guy who's got

5:20

no money, But. He spends money

5:22

to buy a second Rolex you can't

5:24

wear to Rolexes. About

5:26

the quote we avid elliott wanted to play

5:28

that Israel must have a sound bite it

5:30

will have We we we have to sell

5:33

by some sorry for notes from the post

5:35

rep press conference yesterday. This one is on

5:37

the process of taking Michael payments. Why? this

5:39

is a good idea to pay Cousins ninety

5:41

million guaranteed Also draft minutes eighth overall. We.

5:44

Get Kirk cousins. And you

5:47

talk about short term winnings of by winning right

5:49

now which we know if abuses in a do

5:51

what you want to be position to do or

5:53

we won't have the ability to be picked in.

5:56

This hi again. With. the gotta we

5:58

gotta and is guys got the board pretty quickly

6:00

and we thought it would be important for us to

6:02

address our future quarterback right

6:04

now where we're picking this low. When you can

6:06

add a high caliber player like that with

6:09

his intangibles, those

6:11

tools, he's a winner, very,

6:14

very excited. You don't pass up that

6:16

opportunity. And Kirk

6:19

Cousins is our quarterback. We're very excited about

6:21

Kirk, very excited about this team. And

6:25

Michael Pinnix is, we're talking

6:27

about the future. So that

6:29

was both head coach Raheem Morris first and then

6:31

Terry Fottner, the general manager second. Even

6:34

just listening to them speak about it, I'm

6:36

dumbfounded with all the questions that you just asked me,

6:38

those are the questions that Arthur Blake should have been asking

6:41

that they just can't, there's no answer. They

6:43

don't have an answer for it. And

6:46

really it's an indictment of a Super

6:48

winning GM Fottner's work ethic. It's an

6:50

indictment of his inability to really say,

6:53

this is the guy, this is who

6:55

I like. He and Ryan Pace, this

6:57

is another quarterback, Ryan Pace is responsible

6:59

for drafting. This is three now. Okay.

7:01

This is, he's like, what were you

7:03

doing? Like you can pick

7:05

this guy, but why didn't we just pick

7:07

them at eight and not give 90 million

7:10

to Kirk Cousins? Don't tell me short term,

7:12

Kirk's going to help us win for two

7:14

years. Like he's not Jacoby Bercette at $8

7:16

million. No. You just gave him 90

7:18

million. You're, he

7:21

wants to play three years. He's talking about

7:23

playing up past this contract. And

7:25

he's now frustrated by this, but his

7:28

agent was telling Pete family ESPN that

7:30

he was surprised. They didn't let him

7:32

know until they were on the clock.

7:34

We also have that sound bite. This

7:36

is from both Terry Fondo and Raheem

7:38

Morris about cousins reaction to the team

7:41

drafting Michael Pennocks. Whichever

7:43

one of you called Kurt when you were

7:45

on the clock and you tell me about it. What's his reaction? That's

7:48

a private, we wouldn't share that,

7:50

you know, and obviously reactions are

7:52

pretty private. Right. Yeah. You

7:54

know, he got called on the clock, obviously, because

7:56

of the sensitive time with the issues of what you got going

7:59

on. It's never. a right time

8:01

to talk to a quarterback about those things and reactions are

8:03

always going to be private when it comes to those things

8:06

Unless Kurt decides to tell you some of those

8:08

things that whatever the case may be but he's

8:10

a competitor Just like us all

8:12

and you can always expect those things to go just like

8:14

you kind of think If

8:17

I'm cousin then say why the hell did you

8:19

give me 90 million dollars to then draft my

8:21

replacement with the eighth or But he cuts the

8:23

thing why can we go to the playoffs? Can

8:25

we win a Super Bowl? Can they help us

8:27

out? We have a top ten pick. Nope. Here's

8:29

the guy for the future four to five years

8:32

down the line This is two years in a

8:34

row this award-winning front office of the Falcons led

8:36

by Kaiser So see McKay and Super Bowl winning

8:38

GM Fonno have decided to Take

8:41

a luxury item. They had Algier

8:43

who's a good back average five yards carry

8:45

two years ago, right? I think Bijon Robinson

8:47

is a really good player. I'll complain should

8:49

have taken Jalen Carter. Okay, but they don't

8:51

they take a luxury item Okay again, they

8:53

need another Rolex. Why not buy another Rolex

8:55

even though you don't have any money All

8:57

right, when you look at their team, there

8:59

were 29th enforcing turnovers last year. Why they

9:01

can't rush the passer Okay, so this year

9:03

they passed Murphy. They passed Latua They passed

9:05

the two defensive players that they could add

9:07

to their defensive front See the biggest issue

9:09

here is they have this perception that they're

9:11

really a good team They

9:13

believe they're just Kirk Cousins away.

9:16

And now where this Pennick's pick comes in. I have

9:18

no idea. He's 24 years old He

9:21

started a zillion games like he doesn't

9:23

need the red shirt. He's not Drake

9:25

May He's not JJ McCarthy. He

9:27

can come in and play he's played in

9:29

a championship game He's played a lot like

9:31

why are we resting him? And then he goes on to

9:34

say if we have to wait four or five years I

9:37

mean good problem to have is what he's a good

9:39

problem for five years Hey Terry, do you know you're

9:41

gonna pick up the option on a guy that's never

9:43

played? Do you understand the option rules Terry or do

9:46

you need you need Chris Olsen? Explain that to you

9:48

Chris Olsen who was also in the column that he

9:50

doesn't want any offseason workouts Like you're laughing stock of

9:52

the league based on that column You're

9:54

the last. I mean the Belichick can't fit in the

9:56

top three of your candidates and you're proud of it.

9:58

And then you do. That like this. What?

10:01

Do you think Bella? Check what is said to

10:03

them When they came up with the idea to

10:05

draft panics. says. Hell know what to

10:08

survive. Whereas the first of about said what

10:10

a sight or cause zeus I've got a

10:12

preschooler pay ninety billiards for guy coming off

10:14

an Achilles. Would he have drafted? Panics probably

10:16

might have. Like. And probably might

10:18

have had you would have been in the same situations. Maybe

10:20

he would have picked Mccarthy. Maybe would have picked panics. I

10:22

don't know, but he would sit a the a spit. We're

10:24

probably going to get a quarterback or we're going to get

10:26

a decent supplier. The. Reality of this

10:29

us to tie all season into the

10:31

right into the draft. You can't smoke

10:33

soon as independence. Okay so you can

10:35

have a free agency periods that doesn't

10:38

marry the that the the drought. The

10:40

draft is a have to be together.

10:42

That's why they call you general manager

10:44

because you're managing the team, you're leading

10:47

the team. This is your job. This

10:49

is would you get paid to do

10:51

is to build the team. And.

10:53

The one position you can have a hockey

10:55

line in his quarterbacks because gameplay two guys

10:58

right? you can't know well with Kirk it's

11:00

hurts them, will play panics, Why?

11:02

Did you give Kurt ninety million if is going to get hurt? Makes

11:06

no sense. It makes no sense at

11:08

all. It's the most ridiculous move you

11:10

could make. And against This isn't about

11:12

panics, this is about team building. That.

11:14

This is about team buildings and when you

11:16

have a team that when you look at

11:18

it there twenty seven interceptions force. Last year

11:20

they get no pressure on the quarterbacks they

11:22

have. They have no defensive line Grady Jarrett,

11:24

Com and often a Cel rights. They need

11:26

a three technique. I know they signed a

11:28

kid from the wall as last year and

11:30

pay them. They don't have great edge rushers.

11:32

They can't get pressure on the quarterbacks. They

11:34

go into Chicago they couldn't stop the Justin

11:36

feels that often. They go and play Tampa

11:38

Bay at home and a big game right

11:40

in a big games as in a two

11:42

minute drill Tampa goes down the field. Beets.

11:45

I'm like this team is there

11:47

over evaluating the team. And.

11:49

it's funny because i got a text we

11:51

read it on the or the other day

11:53

from a i have from somebody that knows

11:55

the situation he's he's he's not there is

11:58

not in the league any longer but knows

12:00

the situation and he said look the problem

12:02

with the hire of Rahim Morris is Rahim

12:04

needs a strong general manager. He needs somebody

12:06

who's going to stand up to him because

12:09

he gets off track on personnel. You got

12:11

to have that and Fotno will gladly do

12:13

whatever he wants. Fotno did whatever Arthur wanted

12:15

to do. Like your job of the general

12:18

manager is to protect the franchise. Protect

12:21

it. Protect it

12:23

for today and tomorrow. Like we just

12:25

gave 90 million of our owners money and you're

12:27

telling me we're going to pick eight? If

12:29

I want to pick this guy eight I got no problem. No problem.

12:32

Take the eight, 90 million give it to some other players. And

12:34

that's the thing is that like what you talked about like

12:37

what were we doing in the fall because you said you

12:39

got to marry for agency with a draft but Fotno's job

12:41

he's working on this all year round. All year. He used

12:43

to be watching Washington play. I mean the Huskies were they

12:45

made the national title game they weren't like some team off

12:48

the radar. We all talked about Michael Panics all college football.

12:51

How are you not at with some of those games

12:53

when they were playing in Seattle? Brett Veach

12:55

goes into Andy Reed and sometime in November

12:57

or October and says this Pahomes guy is

12:59

great. Yeah. Right. We

13:01

got to get this from a home's guy. This is during

13:03

the season. He's already saying it because he works it. He's

13:06

not sitting there behind the phone talking to reporters trying to

13:08

manipulate the thing. I mean come on give me a break.

13:11

Call it like you see it. Like this is

13:13

bullshit. It is. This is really bad.

13:15

And these are the guys criticizing one of the winningest

13:17

coaches of all time in an article. They don't have

13:19

the balls to put their name behind. Come

13:21

on. We know who said what. We know it.

13:25

They apparently reported with the athletics said that they had

13:27

a 45 minute work. I met with

13:29

him at the combine. Last time I

13:31

checked the combine is before free agency starts. If

13:33

you were starting to fall in love with him

13:35

then why the hell were you looking to get

13:37

Kirk Cousins 90 million dollars. You never had to

13:39

sign Kirk Cousins and they did that. They also

13:41

fell in love with Panics. So they fell in

13:43

love with multiple quarterbacks and Godspeed

13:45

Atlanta Falcons. Godspeed. And it's

13:48

just amazing. I don't

13:50

understand it. We're going to take a quick break. I do want to

13:52

get into all the other stuff from the NFL draft but we just

13:54

had to start up with that because the most I'm not done. I'm

13:56

not done. OK. You

13:58

Still got some meat left on that boat. Let's take a

14:00

quick break. Will be back with have more about

14:02

this Atlanta Falcons loop with I was a six

14:04

quarterbacks in the first twelve picks. You call you

14:06

out about our recent.com you call that for break

14:09

it all down. Next year though, six or break

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urology. I'm supposed. To

14:20

decide Oh he Kills World

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theaters event occurs spills my

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this bills. That

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would you said it. Michael by doing it

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is important. Note that this is not a

14:59

Michael Panics conversation. This is a process conversation

15:01

because we want to focus on the only

15:03

team interested in Michael Pigs were getting reports.

15:05

James Palmer said that the Seahawks A to

15:08

Raiders all try to get in the top

15:10

ten to draft panics and and that's why

15:12

to me what makes it such an indictment

15:14

of the a lot of front office Because

15:17

panic says tape. Was. Available Everybody

15:19

you know. When I first started a league,

15:21

we were on sixteen millimeter tape. There were

15:23

three cans of tape on Jerry Rice. That's

15:26

all there was. Mississippi Valley didn't have very

15:28

much money to pay for it because sixteen

15:30

millimeter tape was very expensive. And

15:32

so was hard to see players back in the

15:35

early eighties because yeah to get the had a

15:37

go to school get the tapes. Shockingly today. Superbowl.

15:40

Winning G M. Terry fought know could

15:42

sit in his office and on any

15:44

Friday, Saturday or Sunday watch every Washington

15:47

tape he wants to watch. So like

15:49

there's no excuse to not know the

15:51

players. And so when you start in

15:53

December, when you're put your board together

15:55

in December. the gates you're putting

15:57

your board together based on what the scale

16:00

think the season's over, you still have all-star

16:02

games, but you kind of have a sense

16:04

of, okay here's where the draft is, but

16:06

you also have a sense of your team

16:08

needs. You're working on your team needs all

16:11

through the year. You know this. How do

16:13

you end up saying you

16:16

need a quarterback? I agree, you need a quarterback. So

16:18

you go out and you tamper with Kirk Cousins. You're

16:20

gonna lose a pick on this by the way. You're

16:22

gonna, it's gonna, this the residual effects of Cousins besides

16:24

the money ain't over with yet, okay. You're

16:27

gonna lose a pick and then you decide

16:30

to take the quarterback, pay them 90 million

16:32

of Arthur Blanks hard-earned money, cost him another

16:34

chance at a yacht, to

16:36

then turn around and go draft a guy. Like

16:39

it just, it smacks that there is no long

16:41

range planning and there is simply no plan. There

16:43

is simply no plan because trust me if you

16:45

were sitting in a room in the first, before

16:47

you went to the compound, you say look got

16:49

the eighth pick, we'll have a really good chance

16:51

to get one of these quarterbacks. We have money,

16:53

we could use this for this, this. We got

16:55

to fix the defense. Here's where we're gonna go.

16:58

We have our must list, we have our want

17:00

list and we have our need list. We must

17:02

get a quarterback, we must get a rusher, we

17:04

must get these things, we need these things but

17:06

there's none of that. It's just fly-by-night.

17:09

It's just okay, let's take, look, you

17:11

know we have to, we're gonna, you

17:13

can't pass up Pentix. This is the

17:15

same freaking franchise, okay, that

17:18

had the audacity to say they're not interested

17:20

in Lamar Jackson last year. And

17:22

put out a fucking press release to announce it. Nobody

17:25

asked, they just let us know. No, they're

17:28

so talented in evaluation. They put out a

17:30

press release to say they would not want

17:32

a two-time winning MVP but yet they're gonna

17:34

double down on quarterback. Like how do you

17:36

have any trust in what they're doing? How?

17:40

There's none. There's none. We've talked about the

17:42

combine. Michael Pentis was also at the senior

17:44

bowl. He was hanging out with our guy

17:46

Jim Nagy. There was multiple opportunities to realize

17:48

we really like this kid. Let's target him

17:50

at eight and build from there. But they

17:52

went ahead and did the Cousins thing and

17:54

they still doubled down on it to go

17:56

ahead and take it. It goes back to

17:58

Bette Veach. Andy, this Patrick

18:01

Mahomes guy's really good. Where was

18:03

Super Bowl winning GM Fotno

18:05

telling somebody we gotta go get this guy?

18:08

There wasn't that. And

18:10

look, here, I said this too. I

18:12

said this from the beginning. I never

18:14

thought this would happen. But I knew the

18:17

Rams liked Pennocks. And Zach Robinson

18:19

of the OC went to the Rams, went from the

18:21

Rams here. Raheem was at the Rams too. So they

18:23

all had a sense of it there. So when

18:27

Raheem gets the job in Atlanta, right,

18:30

I don't think Atlanta had any interest

18:32

in Pennocks until Raheem pushed the envelope.

18:34

Because I think Raheem and Zach Robinson

18:36

knew Pennocks, right? Which is fine. This

18:38

is before March. One

18:40

thing coaches don't give a shit about spending the owner's

18:42

money. They could care less. So now we have Kirk

18:44

Cousins, we have Pennocks, we don't care, right? That's why

18:47

they all wanna draft more receiver. We need more skill.

18:49

Then the middle of October, you know, we need a

18:51

receiver. And they always do that. It's

18:53

just bizarre. It is bizarre. And look,

18:57

they made an announcement. Well, you know,

18:59

teams try to trade for us. And

19:02

we took Pennocks. That's more of an indictment. You

19:04

could have gotten a lot of picks because

19:06

you signed Cousins and you could have helped

19:09

your defense. There's more of it. Every time

19:11

they talk, they indict themselves further. Belichick's

19:14

not in our top three. We could have had

19:16

more picks. Four or five years if he has

19:18

to. Good problem to have. Hey, Terry,

19:20

you gotta pick up the option. You know anything about an

19:22

option? You know, Chris Olsen will tell you about that. Give

19:25

me a break. It's remarkable. Every time

19:27

they talk, you mentioned it. I just think

19:29

to myself, why would they admit this stuff

19:31

out loud? Why would they do that? They're

19:33

just clueless. Clueless is the right word. Clueless

19:35

is the right word. Pennocks was one of

19:37

six quarterbacks to be drafted in the first

19:39

12 picks. We've never seen

19:41

anything like that in the NFL Draft. It tied the record of

19:43

1983 of six QBs selected. I

19:46

asked you about that earlier this week when we did

19:48

our preview pod. Are we gonna get to that record?

19:51

We got there. You wrote about it on vson.com. And

19:53

it started with Caleb Williams that won to the Chicago

19:55

Bears. And we had Daniels, May. Pennocks at

19:57

eight with McCarthy at 10. at

20:00

12. I mean your thoughts overall all these

20:02

QBs going so high and why the league

20:04

was really invested in getting these guys. Yeah

20:06

I think this look I said this from

20:09

the beginning don't judge these

20:11

quarterbacks based on your evaluation or based

20:13

on the mock people's evaluation okay that's

20:15

just not fair because I

20:18

tell you this if Sean Payton likes a quarterback there's

20:20

a reason and and he knows quarterbacks way better than

20:22

you know quarterback. If you're getting killed today a little

20:24

bit like oh how can you take Bo Nicks at

20:26

12? Well I mean I have a hard time saying

20:28

to Sean that that that some guy

20:30

who's sitting in his basement in Des Moines

20:33

eating meatloaf knows more about quarterbacks than Sean

20:35

okay so the grades are stupid right the

20:37

grades are stupid I see guy he's already

20:39

got a C- minus from CBS online you

20:41

know like okay really seriously okay like

20:43

look I have a lot of faith in Sean

20:46

because he knows you know he was

20:48

wanted to draft my homes he developed

20:50

Romo he gets it now you

20:53

know and and Nicks look you could say a

20:55

lot about Nicks. Nicks is really good on the second play

20:57

you were a Nicks fan you thought he should win the

20:59

Heisman you've been on you've been calling this for a while.

21:01

I was invested. I know look

21:03

do what I would if to me

21:05

I said this before it's the

21:07

marriage between the coordinator the head coach

21:10

and the quarterback that's what makes things

21:12

successful that's what's going to make these

21:14

guys JJ McCarthy you may not like

21:16

them but with Kevin O'Connell coaching them

21:18

you may like them he's gonna bring

21:20

out what he does and they're gonna

21:22

take the ability of his talent and

21:24

bring it to the field so if

21:26

you trust Sean Payton then you

21:28

got to trust his pick you can't trust

21:31

guys that watch college football on Saturday I

21:33

don't like Bo Nicks or he throws the

21:35

ball sideways Bo Nicks okay look what I

21:37

have taken Bo Nicks no what I have

21:40

taken Michael Pennicks probably would have what I've

21:42

taken JJ McCarthy yeah would I be scared

21:44

of Drake May yes but there's all all

21:47

areas you've got to count on that

21:49

they can overcome it right and

21:51

what has to be go back to

21:53

the great Roger Martin the decision-making the

21:56

management guru who's tremendous and read any of his

21:58

books says, what must be

22:01

true for this to be, for the outcome to

22:03

be right? And so what Sean can

22:05

do is make it true. He's going to coach

22:07

the kid, the kid's very adaptable, he's smart, he

22:09

gets him in the right play. You talk to

22:11

anybody in Oregon, they'll tell you that. Okay.

22:13

Is he, is he going to be damn

22:16

Marino and just take the offense over? No,

22:18

but you're trusting Sean Payton's offense to carry

22:20

the ball. Right. And so I

22:22

think that's really what it is. And we not, we

22:25

thought, we talked about it on

22:27

the GM shuffle. Look, we know that not

22:29

all six are going to work out, but who they go

22:31

to is going to really matter the most. Right. And

22:33

the giants wanted may, which I wrote

22:35

this a month ago. They wanted may,

22:38

they didn't want McCarthy. They wanted may,

22:40

they took a really good receiver and

22:42

neighbors. Can they get them the football?

22:44

I don't know. Can they protect? I

22:46

don't know, but they got a good

22:48

player and neighbors. Right. It's the same

22:50

thing with, with the

22:52

Patriots. They take may they

22:54

get a, they got to develop them. They've already admitted

22:56

he's not ready to play. You know,

22:59

and Belichick said this on McAfee, the kid hasn't

23:01

played enough. One thing about Pentix, he's played a

23:03

lot. One thing about Nick's, he's played a lot.

23:05

Explained the most starts ever for a quarterback in

23:07

college wall history. So he's got experience. You want

23:09

that. Right. And so I think

23:12

to me, you can't judge it.

23:14

You've got to really just let this thing

23:16

play out and see. And the tape, the

23:18

worst tape of any of them is on

23:20

may because he's really inconsistent. But you're, you're

23:22

saying that Alex van Pelt is going to fix

23:24

them. That's what the Patriots are hoping for. They

23:27

better hope that they, and Ben McAdoo, the offensive,

23:29

the quarterback coach there, those two people have to

23:31

make this work and may's got to be bought,

23:33

bought in and really work hard to do it.

23:35

And we'll see. Let's focus on that team building

23:38

for the new England Patriots. Cause I think there

23:40

was a perception that new England really wanted to

23:42

trade down to maybe get some more picks. Cause

23:44

they're looking at the roster. They're saying, Hey, we're

23:47

devoid of talent. We need to surround a potential

23:49

quarterback with really good players so that can help

23:51

them out. They went ahead and took may anyways, sounds

23:54

like they're going to sit in for at least a good

23:56

chunk of the season. Maybe the entire season comes as well.

23:58

I know things always change and who knows how. If

24:00

they start 2 and 4 in Bresc that's bad. I'm

24:02

sure the fans will be clamoring for May to start.

24:04

But from a team building standpoint, do they

24:06

have enough resources to help Drake May early

24:09

on in his career? Can they build a

24:11

good enough roster using this third overall pick

24:13

and not being able to trade down and

24:15

get somebody else? Well, I'm gonna put you

24:17

on something that's, the quarterback makes the receiver.

24:20

The receiver don't make the quarterback. I don't

24:22

know how many times you gotta say that,

24:24

but it's fairly obvious. The quarterback makes the

24:26

receiver. The receiver doesn't make the quarterback. Okay,

24:28

that's pretty clear. Over time

24:31

a memorial, that's happened. I think this, I think

24:33

New England would have liked to trade down. I

24:35

think they would have taken J.J. McCarthy as their

24:37

alternate pick. I think they liked him as well.

24:39

The problem is if they traded with the Giants

24:41

and gave the Giants May, they knew

24:44

the Giants wanted May. If they

24:46

gave them, they're sitting there at six. With

24:48

4 and 5 open for business on trades,

24:51

they had no idea that maybe Minnesota could have

24:53

traded up to get McCarthy. And so now they're

24:55

sitting at six, and if they couldn't get back

24:57

to four to make that deal,

25:00

then they could end up with no quarterback. And there was

25:02

no way they weren't gonna take a quarterback. And I don't

25:04

think they were gonna take Pennicks or Bonaik. So they

25:06

only had two guys they wanted, so they kinda got locked

25:08

into the pick. They got locked

25:11

in because if Elliott went to six, he

25:13

had to get back up to four. And

25:15

then when you look at the value of that, what

25:17

do you end up, what's the residual effect of all

25:19

that, you know? The Giants were offered, I think Bill

25:21

Simmons reported, the Giants were offered next year's one to

25:23

get to three, which would have been great. But what

25:25

would you have to pay money to get to four?

25:29

And so now you start to add that

25:31

up and it becomes a little less effective.

25:33

So to me, that's why I don't think

25:35

Arizona moved because at the end of the

25:38

day, I don't think Arizona needed May to

25:40

make it to four to

25:42

get the phones heated up. I

25:44

think that was the case. And when May

25:46

didn't make it to four, I don't think

25:48

Arizona had a whole lot of offers left.

25:50

I don't think they did. And so then

25:52

the draft kinda went off. I thought Tennessee,

25:54

I was told they were go receiver outside

25:57

in. They needed the offensive

25:59

tackle, good. there, they got Latham,

26:01

that thought there. We talked about Atlanta. To

26:03

me, the other one is Chicago. Look,

26:06

Adunze is a good player. I'm not denying

26:08

that. How many receivers do you need? How

26:10

many plays can Adunze play for you next

26:12

year? You got Keenan Allen, you just redid

26:14

a steal, you got DJ Moore, and now

26:16

you got Adunze. And you've got,

26:19

you know, the tight ends. The

26:21

Cole Comette. Yeah, Cole Comette. So, all right, you don't

26:23

have a right tackle. Ocala Williams wanted him

26:25

to draft a tackle. He was already playing GM for him

26:27

already. He wanted a tackle. But for me,

26:29

like for me, a team

26:31

building, I would have taken Murphy here. To

26:34

me, they need a three technique. If

26:36

you're Matt, if you're, if you understand Eberflux's

26:38

defense, it's all about the front. You got,

26:40

you traded for sweat, right? You

26:42

traded for sweat, pick Luto, Lute

26:44

there, or pick Murphy as a three technique inside,

26:46

and all of a sudden you're going places. You

26:49

get Adunze, how many plays is he going to

26:51

play? Well, we'll be a three

26:53

receiver team. Ask Buffalo how the three receiver

26:55

team works out for them. They've

26:58

totally disband that whole situation. Because they play in

27:00

Buffalo. They need to be played with power. They

27:02

can't throw the ball every fricking play. It's hard

27:04

to run the ball in three, in 11 personnel

27:06

because your slot receivers got to be a really

27:08

good blocker. You got to be able to, you

27:10

have no weak side run game, but you got

27:12

to run the ball. And so you're going to

27:14

put the ball in 11. You're going to put

27:16

the ball in a rookie's hands who's fumbled 30

27:18

times all the time. I don't think that's smart.

27:20

So say he plays 400 plays. Murphy

27:22

would have played 1200 plays and Murphy

27:24

could be an elite three. See, three techniques are

27:27

hard to find. I've been saying this forever. They're

27:29

really hard to find. Although Super Bowl winning GM

27:31

Terry Fott though thinks he can find them at

27:33

any time. We'll see. But you

27:35

know, great suit by the way. Look great.

27:38

Nice roll. Oh, good. Everything's great. You know,

27:40

about the draft. I love when they go

27:42

in the draft room and after the pick,

27:44

everybody hugs one another. Like why do we

27:46

have to hug? We knew we were picking.

27:48

We could have hugged before. We could

27:50

have hugged before the commander's, Adam Peters

27:53

was giving everybody. We knew we were

27:55

picking Daniels before. Like, do we really

27:57

need to hug? Like,

27:59

do we really need to hug? the hog. It's already

28:01

golden odds right? Let's do it. It's

28:03

remarkable what we saw last night and

28:07

the breakdown of some of these positions like a record

28:10

setting night, which I want to get into that on

28:12

the other side. I do want to take a quick

28:14

break here, but six quarterbacks in the first round, seven

28:16

receivers, nine offensive linemen, one tight end, a record 23

28:20

offensive players selected in last night's first round.

28:22

The previous record was 19. We'll get

28:25

into that and much more on the other side.

28:27

This is the GM shelf rolling along day after

28:29

the first round of the NFL draft. Like

29:04

we were saying a record setting 23

29:06

offensive players heard their names called

29:08

last night in the first round of the NFL draft.

29:10

We didn't get a defensive player until 15 was

29:13

lay out through a lot to the

29:15

Indianapolis. Anybody paying attention to the chiefs

29:17

want a Super Bowl with their defense,

29:19

right? Is anybody paying attention that you

29:21

got a, you know, I don't give

29:23

a crap about all this bullshit about,

29:26

you know, look, the Patriots, it's an

29:28

offensive game though. The Patriots. Yeah, it

29:30

is. Okay. So the Patriots won

29:32

their Super Bowl, the second Super Bowl, the

29:34

next year they lose to Denver and Denver. And

29:37

from that point until 14, they didn't win a

29:39

Super Bowl. They went to a bunch of conference

29:41

championship games, but they never could fix. They, they

29:43

couldn't outscore anybody. They never finished outside the top

29:46

10 and scoring, but they couldn't stop anybody when

29:48

they needed to. Right. And so the chiefs got

29:50

the same way. The chiefs trade away Tyree kill

29:53

and they basically rebuild their defense. And

29:55

so like you, this notion that we're

29:57

just going to outskill and outscore people.

30:00

The Miami Dolphins have proven that you can't do that.

30:02

You got to be good up front. You got to

30:04

win the game that way. The

30:06

one that bothered me is,

30:08

you know, and this

30:11

one drives me insane, is, you

30:13

know, Draft Day was special

30:15

for Al Davis because Al Davis was a

30:17

true team building architect. That's his whole thing

30:20

was team building. His focus was always on

30:22

how are we going to win the division?

30:24

How do we beat the Chiefs? How

30:27

are we going to beat the Chiefs? How are we going

30:29

to beat the Broncos? Or how are we going to beat

30:31

the Chargers? That's what we have to do, right? That was

30:33

always the mindset. Where are we deficient

30:35

and how can we shift the balance of power

30:37

in our favor? That's

30:39

the Raider way. The Raider

30:42

way, size, speed, offensive

30:44

lineman, defensive lineman, how do we

30:46

change the game? Press corners. And

30:49

for them to take a really good player in Brock

30:51

Bowers, and I don't do, I'm not arguing with

30:54

the pick. He's a good player. They can't

30:56

block anybody up front. But from Colton Miller,

30:58

who's their only offensive lineman, all the way

31:00

down, Dylan Parham can't play guard. He's a

31:03

better center, but they signed Andre James to

31:05

play center, so they got to play Barnum

31:07

at guard. He's not a guard, right? They

31:09

signed Cody Whitehair, who's on one hair. He's

31:12

not going to play. Okay. Mumford's

31:14

the right tackle. That's a turnstile. You're not

31:16

beating Kansas City with that offensive line. You've

31:18

got great skill with Michael Mayer. You've

31:20

got Jacobi Myers, Devontae Adams. You have

31:22

no quarterback. And you have a quarterback

31:24

in Gardner-Minshew, who's six feet tall, who

31:27

if you don't protect inside, it's

31:29

going to get ugly. It's going to

31:31

get ugly. And so to take Bowers

31:33

there, he's not helping you beat Kansas

31:35

City. He's not helping you beat Chargers.

31:37

He's not helping you beat the Broncos.

31:40

He's a good player. He's a luxury item. He's

31:44

a luxury item. And at this point, because

31:46

of the lack of attention that the prior

31:48

regime had given to the offensive and defensive

31:50

lines, they went down this road too. I'll be

31:53

critical of them too. And I love all

31:55

those guys that were involved with it. But

31:57

that was where they screwed up. These

32:00

lines are horrendous now if they draft

32:02

Murphy. Say they

32:04

draft Murphy and put him a three technique

32:06

next to Christian Wilkins. Now you got Tyree

32:08

Wilson, you got Murphy, you got Wilkins, and

32:11

you got Max Crosby, that beats Kansas City.

32:13

That guy gives you a chance to beat, you can stop back

32:15

in my homes, you might turn the ball over with that front,

32:18

right? And you got other guys that you

32:20

can rotate through, Coons and other guys, right? You got

32:22

a chance here now. Now, you got

32:24

no quarterback, you got no offensive line. You can't get

32:26

the ball to these guys. I mean,

32:28

I don't give a shit, you can pay Devontae Adams

32:30

more money, but who's getting the ball to him? When

32:33

is Gardner Minshew throwing the ball outside the numbers with

32:35

any regularity? Like the pick,

32:37

look, the pick's a good pick, he's a

32:39

good player, but we're talking team building here.

32:42

Like this is not a good pick for team, and

32:44

you ask yourself, would Al Davis have

32:46

made this pick? The answer is no

32:48

chance. If you understand the

32:50

Raider way and you understand how he

32:52

thinks, he would have picked, probably would

32:54

have picked Latua, the big fast guy

32:56

from UCLA, or he would have

32:59

picked the defensive tackle. Because

33:01

look, let's face it, he was about

33:03

defensive linemen. Think about the great Raider

33:05

lines with Chester and Howie and all

33:08

these guys, Anthony Smith, all these great

33:10

rusher, that's how he won, that's why

33:12

they won. And then mix

33:14

and match, you sign Christians in, you mix

33:17

and match this stuff. To me, that's the

33:19

other one. To me, the Bears not taking

33:21

a defensive player, the Raiders not taking a

33:24

front seven player or an offensive lineman, to

33:26

me. They give the Jets credit, look. I

33:29

mean, they took an offensive lineman, they could have

33:31

taken, they felt finally, they felt Bowers was a

33:33

luxury item. Yeah, the reports out there, Rich Samini,

33:35

who covers the Jets for ESPN, said that the

33:37

Jets would only have taken Brock Bowers if they

33:39

were able to trade down, they would have taken

33:41

a Dunes day, but Dunes day got there at

33:43

a 10, but a Dunes day ended up going nine to

33:45

the Chicago Bears. So they want to take Olu Fashano, they

33:48

did that trade little pick swap with the Minnesota Vikings, Vikings

33:50

went up to 10, Jets went back to 11, they

33:52

take Fashano out of Penn State. Yeah, see that was

33:54

interesting. I thought that we talked about this on the

33:56

show on YouTube when we

33:58

were doing our show, the GMF. shuffle and I

34:01

think they froze the pick there. I

34:03

can't figure out who they were trying to trade up,

34:05

who were they trying to keep out of that spot,

34:08

right? Were they trying to keep the Raiders out of that spot?

34:10

I don't know if the Raiders were in on JJ McCarthy but

34:12

you know who were they trying to keep out?

34:14

It wasn't Denver, Denver was going to pick Nick

34:16

so that was Nick's. It was always Nick's, right?

34:18

So who were they trying to or did they

34:20

just say look screw it we don't want to

34:22

waste around we just want to make sure we

34:24

get our guy we have to get McCarthy so

34:26

it's worth a four to five to do it

34:28

but they were freezing the pick by having the

34:30

Jets on the phone. When you freeze a pick

34:33

what you do is you

34:35

basically you basically get

34:37

the team on the phone who's right in

34:39

front of you because you want to make

34:41

sure that if somebody's if they're trading out

34:43

you know about it. You

34:46

know about it. You don't want them to surprise

34:48

you and trade out and

34:50

that's what I think they did and then they just

34:52

cashed it in. Now whether they got convinced that

34:55

that the Jets had another deal they were

34:57

going to make and so they just ended

34:59

up giving or if they just said screw

35:01

it Joe we'll give you these picks. Yeah

35:03

let's not even sweat this out let's go

35:06

ahead and get JJ McCarthy. I do want

35:08

to go back to the Bowers selection with

35:10

the Raiders though because the draft philosophy of

35:12

best player available is always talked about during

35:14

this process and I'm guessing as somebody who

35:16

has no knowledge of what the

35:19

Raiders draft board looked like the horizontal board

35:21

or the vertical board maybe they had Brock

35:23

Bowers let's just ballpark it sixth best player

35:25

in the draft and they see him there

35:27

at 13 so maybe in their eyes they're

35:29

thinking wow we're getting a top

35:31

10 player a guy that we have is one of

35:33

our six best guys here at 13 even though we

35:36

have these other needs this trumps everything else we got

35:38

to just go ahead and get the blue chip guy.

35:40

Is there an argument for that to hate maybe BPA

35:42

was the way here from the team building standpoint for

35:44

the Raiders? Well I think the Raiders probably were down

35:47

to two players I'm sure they were I think it was

35:49

Fueaga and Bowers and

35:51

they and they decided to take as

35:54

most coaches want let's take the playmaker

35:57

let's take the playmaker I mean look let's face it

35:59

the Chargers fans all pissed off because they picked

36:01

all, not a receiver. Right? I

36:03

mean, that's what happens, right? Your boy Danny

36:05

O's out there selling that there has only

36:07

been three receivers. How about this? He

36:10

says there's only been three receivers that miss, and did

36:12

you see his list on how he categorized them all?

36:14

I didn't see that part. All right. Well, I didn't

36:16

see it either. Somebody showed it to me that. So

36:19

he puts the guys that Henry Ruggs

36:21

isn't a miss. It just was a

36:23

character issue. Hey, Dan, why don't you

36:25

go speak to some owner after

36:27

you picked Ruggs and he gets in a

36:29

face fatal car accident and destroys his career

36:31

and cost people their lives and explain to

36:34

the owner that that was just a hit,

36:36

that we just missed that one. See how

36:38

that goes over. See how that's going to

36:40

go over. Like he's not calling that a

36:42

miss. If the guy don't play, that's a

36:44

miss. He said there's been only three misses.

36:47

Is Rashard Bateman not a miss? Why

36:49

would you sign Odell Beckham for 17 million if Rashard

36:51

Bateman isn't a miss? Like give me a break. So

36:54

anyway, my point here is all

36:56

the coaches always want to take the playmaker, take

36:58

the playmaker. Well,

37:00

I mean, I think that they would have taken Fueaga at

37:03

that pick. They would have had at least one offensive

37:05

lineman. I would have taken Murphy. I mean, there's John

37:07

Snyder sitting there at 15 and

37:09

he gets the best defensive player, one of the best

37:12

defensive players in the draft. The Colts sitting there at

37:14

14 get the one of the best defensive players in

37:16

the draft. There was never, it was never Dallas Turner.

37:18

It was always Latua. Yeah. Yeah.

37:21

Leah Toulatu goes to the Colts at 15. Murphy's 16 to

37:23

the Seahawks. And that's when we saw the run of

37:25

defensive guys, Dallas Turner, who people had the mock draft

37:27

world had Turner as the best defensive guy, but the

37:29

league had differently. The Vikings though did move up to

37:32

the Vikings. They moved up twice in this draft, a

37:34

short move from 11 to 10. And

37:36

then they went from 23 to 17 trading

37:39

with the Jacksonville Jaguars to go ahead and

37:41

get Turner's where they're continuing to add defensive

37:43

front seven guys for Brian Flores and the

37:45

defense where I've been impressed with what the

37:47

Vikings have done this off season. Like I'm not the biggest

37:49

McCarthy guy willing to give it a chance and be open

37:51

minded because Kevin O'Connell, I trust him and I trust what he

37:53

can do as a coach, but I think their offseason has been

37:55

pretty good despite what the betting markets might think, thinking that this

37:57

is a team that's going to be a. Six

38:00

seven win team. Yeah, there was a report that the

38:02

Rams were trying to trade up to get Bowers and

38:04

they really got and They stayed at 19 and picked

38:06

a really good defensive lineman. Yeah Jared verse out of

38:08

Florida State I mean, you know, they picked a defensive

38:10

end who can play the run who could rush the

38:12

pasture There's a really good pick there the Steelers go

38:14

ahead and get another offensive lineman. Look, I think the

38:16

Eagles hit a home run I would have traded up

38:18

to get Mitchell for the Eagles at 22 and I'm

38:20

sure how he entertained trading up But because of the

38:22

the lack of team building that's going on around the

38:24

national football He could just sit there and get his

38:26

good player at 22, you know And

38:30

like I didn't get Jacksonville picking Byron

38:32

Thomas at I know we I know

38:34

Trent loves size speed players I get

38:36

that bulky and But there's

38:38

a lot there's a lot of concern

38:40

about this pick that like this guy

38:42

some medical stuff with him, right? Medical

38:44

there's some character things. I mean, there's

38:46

a lack of full intention I mean

38:48

you signed Kirk to money you give

38:50

Gabe Davis. You got Deb DuVernay You

38:52

got Zay Jones like seriously, you need

38:54

a corner, you know, you need you

38:57

know, you could use another defensive lineman I'm not saying

38:59

there was one there you could use an offensive lineman

39:01

like I'm not sure like I would have taken a

39:03

kid from Duke and put him at center I know

39:05

they send Mitch Morris But they could have used a

39:07

really good center And I mean everything they're

39:09

doing is trying to get Trevor Lawrence to throw the ball

39:11

down the field because let's face it Lawrence has an average

39:13

over seven yards per attempt at any season I mean, he's

39:16

like it's quietly no one talks about it But he can't

39:18

get the ball in work the ball down the field Isn't

39:20

that a lot of it though offensive line maybe not having

39:22

the time to do it? I think it is just the

39:24

guy he was throw the ball down the field that Clemson

39:26

like I don't think he's a guy That's just trying

39:28

to dink and dunk. There's a reason why he's not

39:30

he's getting the ball hot because he's like I don't

39:33

wanna get killed back here. But I mean look they

39:35

got Evan Ingram was a franchise player, right? They they

39:37

paid paid him Kirk they paid the Cape Davis They

39:39

they traded for Zay Jones and paid him now they

39:41

draft Brian How many places Byron Thomas Brian Thomas gonna

39:44

play like how many is he gonna play? Like

39:46

I didn't get that. I love we got

39:48

big daddy on one though They

39:52

didn't go corner they didn't go corner big daddy

39:57

We'll see if he's any good any good. I said look I know

40:00

Jordan Morgan since he was a sophomore, he's a

40:02

really good player. You know, he's a really good

40:04

player. Everybody thought the Bucks were going to, Bucks

40:06

take a really good center in Barton, you know,

40:09

and look, the worthy pick to me is interesting

40:11

by the Chiefs. Everybody loves it because he's so

40:13

fast. Yeah. But people are killing Buffalo for trading

40:15

with Kansas City. How are you helping your biggest

40:17

rival? Right. And I think Buffalo is basically saying

40:20

they didn't like any of the receivers at this

40:22

point. I mean, because they traded twice away. Now

40:24

they have the top pick in the third round,

40:27

but they didn't like Leggett, obviously. They knew

40:29

they were trading away from Leggett. They didn't like

40:31

Worthy. They knew we were trading away from Worthy.

40:33

So they obviously like somebody else. You know, to

40:35

me, when you trade away from

40:37

a position that you need and you give

40:40

it to another team, you didn't like the

40:42

guy. He wasn't on your board. And frankly,

40:44

this is why you have a grading system

40:46

because Worthy can't really be, he's a gadget

40:48

player. When he comes in the game, everybody

40:50

knows something's coming up. At 160 pounds, it's

40:54

hard to make him a regular receiver. Yeah.

40:56

I mean, because he's getting the Tyreek Hill comparison

40:58

just because of how fast he is. Tyreek Hill

41:00

is strong as shit. But yeah, if you have

41:02

eyes, you can see Tyreek Hill is a built

41:04

person. Worthy is, I mean, he is fast as

41:06

lightning, 4-2-1, but he's a very thin guy, 160

41:08

soaking wet. Yeah. I mean, so we'll see. But

41:10

I mean, Andy will have a specific way to

41:12

handle him and see what he can do. You

41:15

know, Andy will develop them. Look, Guyton for the

41:17

Cowboys got to come through. Now he's got to

41:19

come through. That's a key pick for the Cowboys.

41:21

I played early. I hope he's ready. Yeah. He's

41:23

going to have to play right away. That's

41:25

going to be one day. They trade down with the Detroit Lions.

41:27

The Lions, they moved up for Terry and Arnold,

41:29

the Alabama corner back there. And I know the

41:31

fans were excited in Detroit. Also like shout out

41:33

to those 275,000 people in Detroit. It's

41:38

a great sports town. And it's cold outside. It's a

41:40

great sports town. I love it. They were dialed in.

41:42

They're excited for their Lions. They had every Barry Sanders

41:44

out there, Hutchinson and Goff and Ahmaud

41:46

Arnaud. I love it. I love it. It was a

41:48

really good night for Detroit. That city is having a

41:50

moment right now. And they went ahead and got Terry

41:53

and Arnold, the cornerback out of Alabama, which you said

41:55

he's more of a zone type of guy. Does he,

41:57

I mean, I think he can play man. I mean, I

41:59

think he can play some man. I'm not sure. But he's

42:01

not a shut down man-to-man like he's not it's not gonna

42:03

be Reavis Island over there because the Nick didn't play that

42:05

way But there are things you can

42:08

like about him, you know, there's things you can

42:10

like about him That'll be good for them and

42:12

we'll see. I mean look they needed another corner.

42:14

I thought they did a good job in the

42:16

offseason They've improved their defense that you know, they

42:18

improved their offense They get Zitler to play left

42:20

guard to replace the Jackson who they lost So

42:23

look it's you know, they're schemes very

42:25

good, you know, they should be a really

42:27

good team I think Green Bay is gonna be a good team,

42:29

too I think Chicago moved up

42:32

But see there's two teams that I worry about

42:34

that they think they're better on defense than they

42:36

really are Atlanta in Chicago Yeah,

42:38

like is Chicago really good on

42:40

defense or is it you

42:42

know, is Atlanta? We know Atlanta is not really good on

42:44

defense I don't care what they say. They're not I mean

42:46

Rahim can come in there and help them, but they're not

42:49

they can't have no front Chicago

42:51

they played better defensively in the second half of

42:53

the year But I mean, you don't know if

42:56

that's gonna carry over into this year and also

42:58

get your your head coach a three technique That's

43:00

the scheme that he needs. He needs more rushers

43:02

on the defensive The sweat trade has worked out

43:04

for them defensively, but just add another

43:06

piece Why not add another piece but they wanted to

43:08

get the wide receiver Roma doomsday for Caleb Williams giving

43:10

him a toy I want to take one last break

43:13

on the other side We'll get to the receiver moves

43:15

especially at the end of this rap like with worthy

43:18

you talked about him But pure salt of the Niners

43:20

What does that mean for this Brandon I you accept

43:22

that people been talking about AJ Brown? He signed the

43:24

contract is AJ Brown's always signing deals on draft day

43:27

Hey, his agent only works on draft day shout out

43:29

to him getting a new New

43:31

guaranteed money and then also what the Buffalo Bills are gonna

43:33

do they pick 33rd overall So that

43:35

the first pick tonight in rounds two through three as

43:37

we wrap up the first weekend of this NFL draft

43:39

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43:42

means going forward. Maybe some best get traded today Guffin

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So we saw wide receivers go 28 31 and 32

45:20

to wrap up last night's first round and the Niners

45:26

taking Ricky Pearsall at 31 I think is really

45:28

interesting because I think a lot of folks will

45:30

see that pig and say they

45:32

must be getting ready to either trade Brandon

45:35

Iuke or trade Deebo Samuel. There was discussions

45:37

about that yesterday in the morning that hey

45:39

the Niners can look to move up into

45:41

the top 10 potentially by trading one of

45:43

those guys. How do you interpret

45:46

this move by San Francisco taking Ricky Pearsall

45:48

out of Florida? Well I think

45:50

look you know everybody wants to say are they gonna

45:52

trade Iuke but what are you getting back for him

45:54

like you're not getting a player as good as Iuke

45:56

back you know now I know they have a lot

45:59

of cap room to tied up in receiver in

46:01

terms of Debo, but they need an outside

46:03

receiver, right? I mean the 49ers, the guy

46:05

averaged 17 plus yards per

46:07

attempt, per catch last year. Pecatim All-Pro.

46:11

I mean, you know, and so once a dunesay

46:13

went off the board, and I'm not sure that

46:15

the 49ers like to dunesay, I don't know that,

46:17

but once he went off the board, there's no

46:19

other receivers that as good as IUC has played

46:21

in the National Football League out there. And

46:24

so you've got to ask yourself, like, what are we getting back for

46:26

the guy? The

46:28

49ers, for them to function effectively within

46:30

their framework or their offense, they

46:32

need outside receivers. Like, they need

46:34

IUC. They need IUC badly.

46:36

Now, they have a lot of good inside

46:39

receivers. You see, I think the misconception is

46:41

Debo's a really good player. But

46:43

Debo's really a running back playing wide receiver. Debo's

46:45

good with the ball in his hands, but Debo

46:47

can't line up on the outside and win one

46:49

on one on the outside numbers. Debo

46:52

has to be able to be inside, get the

46:54

ball, yards after the catch, run with it. Great

46:56

player, great player. Gets hurt a

46:58

little too much, but great player. I

47:00

mean, I could see that being more of a,

47:02

he's under contract. I could see a team taking

47:04

him. Not that he's

47:06

easily replaceable, but he's a guy that is

47:09

in the middle of the field. They've got

47:11

to be able to stretch the field horizontally in

47:13

their offense. And I think IU gives

47:15

them that. And I don't

47:18

know if Pearsall will give them that down the road.

47:20

He's really a talented player. But

47:22

for me, the one that I would look

47:24

to before IU would be Debo

47:26

because we've got Kittle, we've got McCaffrey. We

47:29

can throw the ball in the middle field.

47:32

We can throw the ball in the middle field. We

47:34

have to make defenses respect us outside the

47:36

numbers. Yeah. And Brandon Iuke is

47:38

still a young player. He's not like he's getting up

47:40

there in age or anything like that. I'm curious though

47:43

for the Debo sample, IU is 26 years old, just

47:45

turned 26 this March. What

47:47

is the value for a Debo Samuel? I

47:50

know there was the contract discussions a couple years ago

47:52

when he asked for this. He did the scrubbing season

47:54

thing, scrubbed all his night or stuff. They came into

47:56

an agreement and he put it all back up there,

47:58

which is this hilarious behavior. But knowing

48:01

what we know about Deebo and the injuries and the toll

48:03

that's on his body Just given the fact that they use

48:05

him as a running back to use him as a receiver

48:07

He is a versatile weapon is there

48:10

could they get as much for a Deebo as they

48:12

would I you can I feel like I you Could

48:14

be the guy that maybe they could maybe fetch that

48:16

first round pick Deebo Maybe that's what a day to

48:18

pick at best Maybe even it's a day three pick

48:20

given the fact that he's a little bit up there

48:22

an agent and all the wear and tear on His

48:24

body. Yeah, look I mean Deebo is a fabulous player

48:26

And he has to be in the

48:28

right scheme to now I mean he's got to

48:30

be and a Kyle does a wonderful job of

48:32

utilizing his talents and and they work really good

48:35

at getting Him the football but in terms of

48:37

just lining up on the outside and saying you're

48:39

gonna win out there That's a different game

48:41

for him. That's not his strength and every player

48:43

has strengths and weaknesses You know and every team

48:45

would need them. I think that the reality of

48:47

it is is you're taking on an older player

48:51

When I say older a guy who's got a lot of injuries

48:53

wearing tear on his body years old 28

48:55

years old, you know who's basically

48:57

you know, who's basically an outside inside

48:59

receiver But now we're seeing AJ Brown

49:01

get his contract redone this market for

49:04

receivers is taken off And

49:06

so just like chase they can't pay T

49:08

Higgins like would you trade Deebo

49:10

for T Higgins? I would yeah, I

49:13

would if I were San Francisco, I would I don't know

49:15

if they would I love the Cincinnati Bengals would do that

49:17

But I certainly would and I

49:19

think that's kind of where they have to take

49:21

a look at like What can you get for

49:23

either one? I don't see them trading IU to

49:25

be and the reason I say that is because

49:27

I don't see how they replace them they need

49:29

an outside receiver badly and You

49:32

know, look, I think when you look

49:34

at Pearsall, you know, I mean he you know

49:36

two years ago He averaged 20 yards

49:38

of catch. It was only 33 catches last year.

49:41

He had 65 catches. He averaged almost 15 yards

49:43

They need an outside receiver that

49:45

can that makes the defense respect

49:48

them and they gots really

49:50

key Yeah Pearsall was actually a teammate of

49:52

Brandon. I you he started his college career

49:54

right at Arizona State there and Brandon I

49:56

you texted John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan last

49:59

night saying Fire pick can't lie

50:01

about them taking Ricky Pierce off 31st

50:03

overall He brought up AJ Brown before

50:05

the draft about an hour before it

50:08

was announced that he signed the extension

50:10

with the Philadelphia Eagles Three-year extension 96

50:12

million dollars. He's now under contract through

50:14

2029 with total guarantees of 84 million

50:18

Which is the highest of any wide receiver

50:20

in NFL history. I'm sure he's a happy

50:22

guy sure He's got his contractor, but you

50:24

know Jefferson's coming in and he yeah

50:27

Nobody pays attention the

50:29

highest paid receiver was the second round pick Right

50:32

the the second highest paid receiver was

50:34

the fourth round pick in st Brown,

50:36

you know The third highest paid receiver

50:38

was a fifth round pick and Tyree

50:40

kill the fourth highest paid receiver was

50:42

Cooper cup Like at some point

50:44

when does somebody sit there and say they're

50:46

out there everywhere. They're all out there I

50:49

mean Pierce all might be better than a

50:51

dune say I don't know who

50:53

knows right, you know And so like

50:55

Justin Jefferson was the fifth receiver picked

50:57

in his class You

50:59

know, I know there's been only three busts since 2018. We got to

51:01

get on that math I

51:04

mean, that's just fucking brilliant. I thought I saw the list

51:06

and I just shook my head I mean, like can you

51:08

you talk about a narrative? Unbelievable

51:11

like your job is to give out

51:13

look we can all disagree but

51:15

don't don't insult my intelligence Yeah, that's just I mean,

51:17

maybe he's a friendly greater Maybe that these wide receivers

51:20

are often be really get the nuns from Catholic school

51:22

to come in and see if they would have prove

51:24

of that Wish

51:26

that wish he was my teacher back in the day. What

51:28

out of four Oh GPA The

51:31

receiver mark you mentioned Jefferson CD lamb is out there

51:33

as well He wants to get paid Yeah And

51:36

if you're if you're all these guys agents because everyone says

51:38

why haven't the Cowboys done CD lamb? Which is what I've

51:40

been asking as well. Like please get him done But if

51:42

you're CD lamb and your CD lambs agent, let's just wait

51:44

see the thing with Thing

51:46

what people don't understand is there's no games. So

51:49

you got no chance of getting hurt now Yeah,

51:51

and so that the the enticement to do a

51:53

deal now isn't really there The enticement

51:55

isn't like it favors the player now

51:57

when you the club gets the best

51:59

deals during the season when

52:01

there really hasn't been, you know, the time to

52:03

do See the Lamb was in November. That's

52:06

when you want to do it because there's

52:08

games and there's, oh, if I get hurt,

52:10

but I got this guaranteed, right? That's

52:13

the time to do it. Not now. Now is

52:15

like, we're not playing any games until, why would

52:17

I do a deal now? Yeah. And

52:20

then why would I do a deal before Justin Jefferson does a deal?

52:23

Let Justin carry me away all the way

52:25

up there. Or before Jamar Chait and A.J.

52:28

Brown did a deal. You know, I mean,

52:30

so like that's the thing. Yeah,

52:32

no, it's going to be the market

52:34

that's going to, we saw defensive tackles get a lot of

52:36

big money this year. And even last year, the receivers are

52:38

going to get big money this offseason. It's just a matter

52:41

of when and not if or Jefferson for Chase. I mean,

52:43

they're going to be over in the, they're going to get

52:45

to the 35 million range. I mean, think about that one.

52:48

And if you pay in one receiver, 35 million per

52:50

year, you know, that's quarterback money. That'd be

52:53

a damn good player. You better be, you

52:55

better be a number one receiver. You better

52:57

be a number, and there's very few number

52:59

one receivers. Which is the misconception that's out

53:01

there that, hey, there's 20 something

53:03

wide receiver ones. It's

53:06

like, no, there's 32 guys who play in

53:08

that position, but not 32 guys that are

53:10

actually of that caliber here. The

53:12

Buffalo Bills start the day. They're picking 33. How about

53:14

our guy? I think we didn't mention this. David Tepper

53:16

was itching to get into the third day. He couldn't

53:19

wait. There was no Tepper

53:21

on the schedule. He got in there right

53:23

before the end of the draft, picking Xavier

53:25

Leggett at 32 overall. Dan Morgan,

53:27

David Canals, they get their wide receiver out

53:29

of South Carolina. Buffalo's now at 33. They

53:32

have a lot of options at wide receiver. I mean, A.D. Mitchell

53:35

is still out there. There's a number of

53:37

guys out there. Obviously, there's somebody that's a

53:39

reason when you move as much as they

53:41

move, they're trying to move in

53:43

a location to where the grade matches the

53:45

pick, right? So now they moved out of

53:47

the fifth year option. They get a four

53:49

year player and, you know, and I

53:51

think they could go anywhere they want to go here.

53:54

Could they go? I mean, the board is, we

53:57

know the defensive board isn't very good, but I

53:59

think it opens The hard

54:01

part is if they don't solve that third receiver

54:03

everybody in Buffalo is gonna be the pressures on

54:05

Sean McVay I mean the pressures on Sean McDermott

54:07

There's no question about that and they've

54:09

got to make the pick they got to make the right

54:12

pick here And I think they can go anywhere you want

54:14

like they don't have to get a receiver like they could

54:16

end up look Do you remember there's

54:18

a guy named Puca that went in the fifth round we

54:21

forget these things. I mean, it's unbelievable We

54:23

really forget you gotta get a guy that's

54:25

like the guy who almost won office a rookie of the year was

54:27

a fifth round draft pick pick It's

54:31

situations matter in team building It's you don't have to get

54:33

the need right away which as fans It's hard to kind

54:35

of square with that because you don't know the player you

54:37

don't know it's the player exactly So you're just looking at

54:39

the position like and I'm screaming out But we got to

54:42

get an offensive lineman and the Cowboys ended up taking Tyler

54:44

Guyton But that's like the whole thing I was thinking in

54:46

my head in my mind last night was O-line o-line o-line

54:48

o-line and if they didn't take an o-line man out of

54:50

probably freaked out But they ended up taking the guy but

54:52

they moved down and got a pick up the third round

54:55

pick Which was pretty nice there So they got a little

54:57

bit of ammunition today on this Friday second round and third

54:59

round today Rounds fourth through seven on Saturday

55:01

and then it will wrap this thing up and lying season

55:03

will officially be over there we go It's

55:06

been a fun lying season and it has been back

55:08

on Monday, right? We'll be back on Monday to recap

55:10

I can't wait for the brilliance of the Falcons. What do

55:12

they have in store for us next? Do

55:15

we see any veterans Spencer Rattler? How

55:18

do you pass that up? You

55:20

know if we have three quarterbacks in the roster, it's a good

55:22

problem to have It's a good problem

55:24

because you know, we could be here four or five years

55:27

There's something called an option bonus here. You got to pick that

55:29

up Stick a Super Bowl

55:31

winning GM Terry is Rattler the guy that the

55:34

next quarterback this It's

55:36

a crap. I mean, it's a crap shoot. It's either

55:38

Pratt. I mean, who knows Pratt people like

55:40

Pratt Our guys Jim Nagy love right? Yeah, I've been

55:42

talking about it for a couple years now He's been

55:44

on the Michael Pratt thing. But uh, obviously Podcasts

55:47

on Monday to recap everything. We of course

55:49

appreciate everybody that the YouTube chat was going

55:51

for It was a lot

55:54

of fun So thank you everybody who tuned in last

55:56

night on our GM shuffle NFL Draft special with aerodont

55:58

drafting's network and on visa and last It was

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a whole lot of fun. We had Tim Murray in here. We

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had Matt humans It was a blast and then now we just

56:04

go ahead and sit back see what the weekend unfolds You're

56:07

heading back to Jersey set back to Jersey

56:09

on Sunday. I'll be ready to go on

56:11

Monday. I'm looking forward to tonight Too good

56:13

today's today is a really important day second

56:15

and third round You get really good players

56:17

potential starters with four-year contracts at cheap economic

56:19

value These guys are this is the two

56:22

rounds that make the biggest difference in your

56:24

draft 100% This is where team

56:26

building and this is where the championships are one

56:28

It's like the headliners are Thursday, but the team

56:30

building the championships Those are usually one on Friday

56:32

and then we go from there throughout the weekend

56:34

So as always subscribe rate and review wherever you

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Bowman with us on the ones that do he's

56:41

excited for his guy Latua latu He's excited for

56:43

that. That's a good thing. He should be he

56:45

should be I mean the two teams have picked

56:47

defensive players. Basically, I had really good drives. All

56:49

right to him Billy Billy in the

56:51

Seattle. Yeah, didn't have to move up or anything I guess

56:53

the Vikings moved up for Turner, but the other guys they

56:56

just fell right to him as the NFL draft will continue

56:58

to roll Along we'll be back with you guys on

57:00

Monday and our usual time slot Monday Thursday next week

57:02

on Monday We'll break it all down. But Michael safe

57:04

travels back to Jersey This has been a blast having

57:06

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