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silliness. Take it away peaches Hey

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everyone and welcome to the flophouse

1:07

mini for this week. I'm Dan

1:09

McCoy. I'm Stuart Wellington I'm

1:12

Elliot Kalin still now now what's a flophouse

1:14

mini? Well normally as you know The flophouse

1:16

is a podcast where we watch a bad

1:18

movie then we talk about it But on

1:20

every other week we do these Slightly

1:23

shorter episodes that are more

1:26

freeform. I'm in charge of

1:28

this one So let me take

1:30

us out of the garage Back

1:33

us out of the station by saying

1:35

this is inspired of course

1:38

by The criterion channel I say

1:40

of course. I don't know why of course. Yeah, I

1:42

was gonna say you said of course as if we All

1:45

the clues were there mr. Police man In

1:47

fact I've given you none of the clues at this point because

1:49

I just started talking You

1:52

know like like many people of like

1:54

many people like me I thought he

1:56

said to like several

1:58

people most Most people

2:00

of non-unlimited budgets. Like the

2:03

movie Several Samurai? Let

2:08

me get the premise out at least. Like several

2:11

people in the world, like

2:13

most of us who don't have unlimited

2:16

money, we cycle through streaming

2:18

channels, you know, like we'll take a little time

2:20

off from one, try on the one. I

2:23

am glad that we are now

2:25

back to having Criterion. Recently

2:30

they put a Razzies collection on,

2:32

just got a lot of press. Boo.

2:34

The Razzies, these

2:36

are, of course, the Golden Raspberry Awards

2:38

we all know was founded

2:40

in, blah, blah, blah. And it's

2:43

a- Underwater? It was

2:45

made to, you know, make

2:47

fun of the worst in

2:49

Hollywood filmmaking. It's an excuse

2:51

for a press release, I don't know. It's

2:54

publicity for itself, essentially. I

2:56

don't, yeah, they don't like make money off of

2:59

anything. I don't know what they do. Not quite

3:01

sure what their deal is, but they award, you

3:04

know, awards for cinematic

3:07

non-excellence. So the Criterion channel,

3:10

as many have noted, noticed

3:12

that many of these Razzie movies

3:15

are pretty good, or at

3:17

least worthy of more

3:19

fair assessment than their reputation

3:21

would suggest. And

3:24

so they highlighted a bunch of those. Now,

3:27

a little sidetracking to

3:29

personal history, one of the

3:31

things that made me want to be

3:33

friends with one Mr. Elliott Kalin, who

3:36

I met- That's me. Mom, mom,

3:38

he mentioned me on the podcast.

3:40

Yeah, yeah, pretty cool. I met

3:42

Elliott- On my day I'll come,

3:44

you know. Through

3:46

our mutual friend, Eric Marcezak,

3:49

and his various comedy

3:52

theaters that he managed. When

3:54

I first met Elliott, I'm like, who's this joke

3:57

a minute guy in a polo

3:59

shirt? all skinny and attractive.

4:01

I don't like his confidence.

4:03

Long, flowing hair. No

4:07

need for glasses ever. But

4:12

one of the things that deterred

4:14

me from that initial unfair

4:17

reaction was, okay, yeah, you

4:19

saved it. I

4:22

discovered Elliot's blog. The

4:24

Oscars are always wrong.

4:26

And Elliot's, you

4:28

know, I knew that Elliot shared my

4:31

love of classic movies, something

4:33

that Elliot has only increased in over the years. And

4:35

me, I've somehow found a

4:37

way to waste my time with a lot of unworthy

4:40

films. But anyway,

4:43

the point is he had a blog called the

4:45

Oscars are always wrong. Talking about how perhaps

4:48

the Oscars did not pick the

4:50

best things to elevate every

4:52

year. And so in that spirit, God

4:54

damn it. And connected to this criterion

4:57

thing, I thought

4:59

I would offer the Razzies are always wrong. There

5:09

are 11 Razzie movies on the Criterion channel right now, but

5:13

we're only going to talk about six of these because

5:15

we don't have a lot of time. But I'm going

5:17

to go through some of these

5:19

Razzie years for specific movies

5:23

they have on there. Let's Razz them up. I'm going to talk and maybe

5:26

we'll decide what

5:29

the more deserving candidate is. Cause I'm going to

5:31

talk about the other Razzie nominees

5:33

for that year. And I'm

5:36

going to throw in someone's I found

5:38

from that year that I thought maybe are

5:41

more worth being in the very

5:43

in keeping with my old blog. I went through, I

5:45

was going to the Oscars year by year and I'd

5:47

say which nominee I thought should have won or what

5:49

other movie should have won. And at this point, actually

5:52

I'd like to go back and redo those because I've seen

5:54

a lot more movies since then. Well,

5:57

hopefully this will inspire you to take on yet

5:59

another prize. Yeah, I'm

6:01

just write a free blog about the

6:03

Oscars now. Maybe someday your sons will

6:06

do this. Yeah, they'll pick up my

6:08

legacy Yeah, now of course

6:10

my Tron legacy. Mm-hmm. Of

6:12

course one of the key problems should

6:14

have won best picture You know sure

6:16

yeah, certainly at the Tronsters for glorious

6:19

movie Now

6:26

To undermine bright premise right from the jump one

6:28

of the key problems with this is of course

6:30

one of the key problems with the Razzies themselves

6:32

where which is the what are we

6:34

doing here question? Because yeah

6:36

life it's well No If

6:39

the goal is to pick the worst movie

6:41

of the year in the truest

6:43

sense Then none of the movies

6:45

nominated for the Razzies should be in the

6:47

conversation These are all like glossy Hollywood films

6:49

with at least some their understanding of narrative

6:52

like you would probably Be

6:54

shitting on something that someone

6:56

made somewhere with no money and like why would

6:58

you do that? So like Maybe

7:01

it's not that like is it like worst

7:03

Hollywood film or but also is it like

7:05

worst movie? Genuinely worst movie

7:08

or is it a fun

7:10

bad movie because I feel like sometimes the Razzies are

7:12

like What's this

7:15

you know and like? That

7:17

if that's what it is, you know, I can respect it

7:19

a bit because it's like Yeah,

7:22

let's let's look at this silly movie But except

7:24

they'll often as I'm sure you're getting to gonna

7:26

get to they'll often pick an artistically Yes

7:28

done movie and say this is bad because

7:30

it doesn't fit I guess what a normal

7:32

movie should be you know, right that's

7:35

that that and that is the fundamental

7:37

problem with them Oh, yeah, I never

7:39

get the sense that the people who

7:41

do the Razzies like or understand or

7:43

know about movies Which I'm sure is

7:45

unfair on my part But there's no

7:47

times when they're like this is

7:49

not it's a little bit like

7:51

like the guy and cat person who's like, yeah

7:53

I love movies. I love Empire Strikes Back, you

7:55

know, yeah, there's more than one kind

7:58

of movie I don't I don't think you're wrong to

8:00

say that I think that it

8:02

seems to me that often the Razzies are like, what

8:04

movie got a lot of bad press this year?

8:08

But it's kind of like the Golden Globes too, where people are like, Oh,

8:10

I want a Golden Globe. And I'm like, who votes for that? Who

8:14

decides these? So let's start

8:16

off in 1988, a

8:20

little movie that inspired a song

8:22

to bedevil Elliott, cocktail

8:24

cocktail won the worst picture

8:26

Razzie in 88 over

8:29

the worst song. The other nominees,

8:33

Candy check to. Okay.

8:35

Rambo. Rambo three. Debatable

8:40

Mac and me. Okay.

8:43

Hot to truck. And

8:46

now I'm going to toss in my

8:48

additions and I gotta say, I'm

8:50

starting with 88 because like, honestly

8:53

all of the Razzie movies

8:55

aren't that bad. And there weren't like that.

8:57

Like there were some dumb other movies from

9:00

that year, but nothing that I thought

9:02

was like, Oh, we gotta hold this up

9:04

for ridicule or anything. This is not a year

9:06

where you feel like they were totally off the

9:09

mark. Perhaps, perhaps. Because I

9:11

mean, I will say cocktail. It seems

9:13

like a weirdly bankrupt idea

9:15

for a movie, but, uh, so

9:17

the other ones I wanted to toss in this

9:20

movie is fun, but maybe I just

9:22

want to shine a light on it. Rotor, the

9:25

low budget RoboCop and Terminator mashup

9:28

with the stress janitor. So

9:32

here's the thing. I recently watched that movie again. I was

9:34

a guest at a science fiction convention in Florida and we

9:36

did a thing where I, where we were riffing over Rotor,

9:38

me and some of the other people there. And I find

9:40

that movie, it's, it's so bad. I

9:43

find it so entertaining. I enjoy it so much,

9:45

but I always remember that robot as a janitor,

9:47

he's a security guard. I

9:49

always remember it wrong, but he is the same character.

9:52

I remember, but, uh, that's that movie. Everyone else was

9:54

like, Oh, Oof. Oh, I can't believe

9:56

we got to sit through this. And meanwhile, I was like,

9:58

I'm loving it. This is

10:00

the fourth time I've seen this movie and I'm enjoying

10:02

it more and more every time. Yeah. Yeah.

10:05

The one other one I wanted to talk

10:07

to here is High Spirits, the Neil Jordan

10:09

comedy that squanders Peter O'Toole by putting him

10:11

opposite Steve Gutenberg. So. Man,

10:14

that was definitely a movie I

10:16

rented as a kid. Yeah.

10:19

At the time I was eight years old.

10:21

So I wasn't necessarily a bastion of good

10:23

taste. That was, I've never, that's not true.

10:25

I've seen High Spirits, but I've never fully

10:28

been able to get it to stick in my mind.

10:30

My memory, because when I was a kid, I remember

10:32

asking another kid and I don't remember who it was,

10:34

another kid at school about that movie, High Spirits, because

10:36

he said he had seen it and he goes, Oh

10:39

yeah, it's super violent. It starts off and this woman,

10:41

this guy like stabs her in the vagina. And I

10:43

was like, what is this movie? I'm not going to

10:45

watch this. And then years later, saw it in his

10:47

room. Nothing like this happens. And

10:49

I, and I was thinking about what

10:52

was this kid thinking about? I think

10:54

the kid is remembering the animated movie

10:56

Wicked City. So

10:59

I just, I, so now I've associated this movie

11:01

with that scene, even though it doesn't exist in

11:03

my head. Yeah. So this is, this

11:05

is a tough one here. Cause like

11:07

88 is a tough year. Like

11:10

if we were, if we were going to go into

11:12

what the iconic bad movie from that year is, it's

11:14

of course Mac and me. Yes. I

11:17

would say that's only the longest lived, I think.

11:19

Yeah. Yeah. If

11:21

it's the movie that like, I would have the most

11:24

difficulty watching, I think it might be Kenny Jack. Yeah.

11:26

I'm merely a joke. Now

11:29

I don't remember, I saw hot to trot so many times

11:31

as a kid and I've not watched it since then. Can

11:34

you check who's that Jackie Gleason who plays?

11:36

Yeah. Jackie Gleason is the

11:38

Rodney Dangerfield cultural. Yeah. Hot

11:40

to trot. This is of course, Jackie

11:43

Mason, Jackie, sorry. Yeah. Yeah.

11:46

Hot to try to say, uh, uh, race

11:48

horse. It's Bobcat Goldsway. It has a race

11:50

horse that has, it's like, I

11:54

forget if the horse can talk because it's the

11:56

reincarnation of a person or forces can just talk.

12:00

Is that the horse definitely does cocaine or

12:02

something is I think someone throws a party

12:04

and there's a part where someone gets reincarnated

12:06

I think the horse's dad maybe it's reincarnated

12:09

as a fly or maybe it's Bobcat Goldwaite's

12:11

dad gets reincarnated as a fly anyway I

12:14

thought someone can I barely remember the plot of

12:16

it? But here's a question I have for you

12:18

is Annie pots in it or am I? Transposing

12:20

her from who's Harry Crumb or you think you

12:22

hot spots? Mm-hmm

12:24

hot to drop with any pots. I don't remember.

12:26

I don't think she's in it. No Virginia Madsen

12:28

isn't though I'm looking at the girl. Oh She

12:31

brings a little bit of you know credibility A

12:35

little belly of heat for

12:37

your tree. Yeah Don't

12:40

ever do that again So

12:44

I don't know what do we say for this We

12:48

man I would say caddyshack 2 is the

12:50

worst of those. Yeah, I mean cocktail is

12:52

very dumb And as

12:54

a bartender, I find it offensive I

12:57

mean, but Mac and me is a very bad movie, but it is

12:59

it is a fun one Yeah,

13:03

I'm gonna I'm gonna say I don't know I'm gonna

13:05

put having very little memory of it I

13:08

might put a lot to try it on there

13:10

just because there's part of me That's like this

13:12

is a movie that existed where Bobcat Goldwaite is

13:14

like a sockbroker who with a talking horse But

13:16

on some level I feel like this process is

13:19

Dan winnowing down what movies we're gonna do for

13:21

live show. Yeah I

13:23

think yeah, you know what probably caddyshack 2. Yeah

13:25

going up next we got in the year

13:28

1995 I

13:30

was 15 years old So

13:32

full of life and hope I

13:34

was I was 17 which

13:37

meant I was of age to see this

13:39

film showgirls one the

13:44

Whatever, you know the the Razzie for worst

13:46

picture a film that has been

13:49

reclaimed by many Yeah,

13:51

the Razzies are straight tripping boo if you were to

13:54

ask me I think other is a

13:56

movie that is not fully successful at what it's trying

13:58

to do but people understand what it's trying to to do

14:00

now. Yeah. And they didn't. Yeah. Uh, other

14:04

films that were nominated

14:06

by the Razzies, we got Congo. Okay.

14:09

Which I, I think is a perfectly

14:11

enjoyable serviceable. Yeah. And certainly the episode

14:13

of AP bio where the, uh, where

14:16

the prom theme or whatever is conga

14:18

is the movie conga almost makes the

14:20

movie worth it. Uh, we

14:22

have it's Pat, a film that looks only

14:25

worse than the years. Goodbye.

14:27

Yeah. Yeah. Perhaps thrown into a

14:30

pit, uh, disowned

14:33

by the path

14:35

themselves, uh, but not thrown

14:37

into a pet. No. Uh,

14:41

the scarlet letter of course covered on

14:43

this podcast water world covered on this

14:45

podcast. And, uh, so

14:47

those are the ones that were nominated. I've added

14:50

to this Theodore Rex, uh, whoopi

14:52

Goldberg, so I haven't been in a

14:55

comedy. Now was Theodore Rex a, was

14:57

it released in theaters or was

14:59

it a video only release? That might

15:01

affect his eligibility. Yeah. I mean, how

15:03

did it premiered at con, right? And it

15:06

got a, how long was the standing ovations?

15:08

Uh, 17 minutes, 17 minutes. We

15:10

should do Theodore Rex at some

15:13

point, the movie that a judge

15:15

made whoopi Goldberg make because

15:17

he ruled that she was breaking

15:19

her contract. Yeah. We've

15:22

referenced it so many times and

15:24

also like I, I've also never

15:26

seen it. I definitely feel like

15:28

Dan is soft. Very curious for

15:30

flop TV season two. It'd

15:34

be, um, what else

15:36

do we have that I put down here?

15:38

We got a fair game, the

15:41

combined acting power of Billy Baldwin

15:43

and Cindy Crawford. Right. Uh, yeah,

15:46

I saw that jury duty. There's there

15:48

was, there was one or two scenes of that, that I

15:50

saw more than one jury duty, uh, featuring

15:54

some of the finest work by the weasel.

15:56

Uh, he

15:59

went with the health. I feel like I

16:01

reckon I remember that one the least well

16:03

of his movies. There's

16:05

the jerky boys movie In

16:09

the theaters and I have so little memory of it that

16:11

I think we might have showed up During

16:13

at the wrong time seen the very end

16:16

of it and then left like that I

16:19

it's hard for you to believe that movies this and I saw it

16:21

anyway. Yeah, it's it's so bizarre

16:23

Like why can't we make a movie

16:25

out of Frank calls? Uh,

16:29

a little what I was on the

16:31

Criterion Channel, right? Yeah We've

16:34

got the mangler where

16:36

Toby Cooper tries to make

16:39

Stephen King's Industrial clothes

16:41

dryer definitely feeling like I've watched

16:43

that scary So,

16:46

what do you think guys you

16:48

think about this I've given you a lot to

16:50

chew on I've already forgotten

16:52

some of them. I Jerky

16:55

boys movie, but I'm terrified of it. I

16:57

don't know if I can watch it That's

16:59

I that's I fit that would be the

17:01

pick for me for sure for I mean

17:03

the fact they have water rolled on there

17:05

Which is a serviceable science fiction kind of

17:07

action movie that they have Congo, which is

17:09

a serviceable science fiction action movie like Oldman

17:13

very fun in Congo and Tim Curry.

17:15

I mean Tim Curry not Tim Curry's

17:18

always fine Very anacambia

17:20

from Bruce Campbell Yeah, so

17:22

but but yeah the jerky boys with the fact

17:24

that that exists It's also it's such an artifact

17:26

of a worst time when the

17:29

jerky boys were famous and very

17:31

successful I'm like these boys are

17:33

jerks. Let's make them Any

17:35

and you listen to those? I remember at I don't know why I

17:37

went to see the movie because I remember not being a fan of

17:39

theirs and Having a friend who had one of

17:41

their CDs and listening to it and they're just like hey sizzle

17:43

chest and I'm like What does this even mean? Like I don't

17:46

understand Joke

17:48

is here, you know These

17:52

pranks aren't properly constructed Journey

17:55

boys seems like an appropriate name to me

18:00

I think that lacks the subtlety of cranky anchors.

18:02

Yeah. I mean, cranky anchors didn't exist yet.

18:04

I guess they refined it, you know? Yeah.

18:06

They learned very well. I would

18:08

say, wait, of

18:11

that list, I think the

18:13

one I would most likely want to watch is

18:17

Showgirls. I

18:20

feel like Showgirls is my

18:22

favorite of the list. Yes. But

18:25

there's a few I haven't seen, and I

18:28

think the one that I haven't seen that I'm most nervous

18:30

about, of course, is Turkey Boys. Well, it's

18:32

Pat. I'm pretty nervous about this. Oh, yeah.

18:34

Oh, I forgot about that. Fuck me. I

18:37

think those probably tie for... I feel like that

18:40

one is like... ...desire

18:42

for... We couldn't even do that on the

18:44

show. No, we wouldn't. Why would we want

18:47

to? Yeah. Okay,

18:49

well, let's move on to 2003. You

18:54

couldn't make a podcast on this

18:56

nowadays. Nowadays,

18:58

you couldn't make a terrible, unfunny movie

19:00

about this. Let's

19:02

move on to 2003, the

19:07

final year closing out, the first half of this mini

19:09

film that we covered

19:11

in one of our Reason Alive shows. It

19:13

was our San Francisco Sketch Fest show. We

19:16

released it for scheduling reasons on

19:18

a normally mini week. So if

19:21

you missed it, go back and check it out. This

19:24

is, of course, Zeely, the film

19:26

that ended Martin Bress' directing

19:28

career and put a lot

19:30

of road bumps in a few other people's

19:33

acting careers. But Jennifer

19:35

Lopez and Ben Affleck got back together again eventually,

19:37

even though that wrecked their relationship for a little

19:39

bit. Or

19:42

did it start their relationship? I don't know.

19:44

I think it started their relationship. I would

19:46

probably say on a bad note. Yeah, it

19:48

was sort of like, you

19:50

know, at the end of speed when like,

19:53

Sandra Bullock's like, you know, relationships on

19:55

this pressure don't work out. And they

19:57

didn't. The cat in the hat? Was

20:00

also nominated that year rough. That's a

20:02

rough one. Yeah. Yeah, Charlie's angels full

20:04

throttle I think that that's a movie

20:06

that ensures itself against Bad

20:10

guys Justin Justin throw right? Yeah We

20:13

got it's actually it's actually Henry David Thoreau is

20:15

the bad guy in that one. Oh cool. Yeah.

20:17

Yeah To

20:20

Walden pond my utopian

20:22

society Yeah

20:30

Yeah, yeah, he got tired of it. He

20:32

would be like Thoreau do the cackle. Hahaha.

20:34

No really do it Emerson would be like

20:36

I love it. I love that I

20:39

do see was something like from Justin to Kelly is

20:42

like a There's a

20:44

lot of these like Very

20:46

of the time. Yes

20:48

sort of movie. I'm assuming the year that

20:50

Kula's ice came out. That was it

20:52

was Nom probably they do piggy They

20:54

do dogpile and and piggyback onto whatever

20:56

is like Dan said earlier the movie

20:58

that gets razzed the most that year

21:00

did we do from just we did

21:02

from Justin to Kelly the Movie

21:06

that came out capitalize on American Idol Kelly's

21:09

all a big star. Yeah.

21:11

Yeah. I mean that that film

21:14

is pretty bad Did

21:16

I watch it though? That

21:23

that movie that a million teen

21:26

movies are there's not I don't remember anything particularly.

21:28

Yeah Disgustingly offensive or

21:30

horrendous about it. It was like not another

21:32

teen movie Martin's

21:36

I guess. Yeah, I think the

21:38

problem was neither of them were

21:40

particularly good actors and the movie's

21:43

lot was like Even

21:45

thinner than the usual version of like even thinner

21:47

than the plot in the movie thinner Yeah,

21:50

the last the last other

21:52

nominee another time

21:54

capsule the real Cancun I've

22:00

never seen that. There's no way that's streamable. Like

22:04

there's no universe where you get if you

22:06

were not alive at the time or don't

22:08

remember that was you know Reality programming was

22:11

ascendant and this was like instead

22:13

of a documentary. This was more of a

22:15

reality show movie Can

22:17

we do for movies what what reality shows have done for

22:20

TV? Yeah, and it turned out they couldn't yeah,

22:22

it was good for everyone And

22:24

that was one of those ones where it was like they

22:26

were kind of promising I never saw

22:28

it but I the I felt like the ad campaign

22:31

was like you are gonna see Spring

22:33

breakers having sex a lot in this

22:35

movie and I have to assume it

22:37

did not fulfill that promise Yeah,

22:41

I mean well, I mean I don't think there was

22:43

like penetration that we were looking for I can Just

22:49

saying that it was it was not it was not

22:51

they were not the movie was not positioning itself as

22:53

a as a documentary You know, no, no, it was

22:55

definitely Salacious The

22:59

director I'm gonna toss

23:01

in a few other options. Henry

23:04

David throw they just hang out tackling together Yeah,

23:09

okay We also have

23:11

from that year house of the dead

23:14

move a bowl of course.

23:16

Oh, yeah that one Dumb

23:18

and dumber. I thought the dead that famously

23:20

does not feature a house. No, no, it's

23:22

not island I believe of the dead. Well,

23:24

isn't just an island a house for trees

23:29

And it's in a tree just a house for birds Exactly.

23:32

When a bird is just a house for whatever's

23:34

inside a bird bones. I guess We

23:38

got dumb and dumber when Harry met Lloyd,

23:40

of course the film that features

23:43

neither of the stars of dumb and

23:45

dumber Yeah, and the people none of

23:47

the interest and of course

23:49

boat trip the gay panic Crap

23:52

Roger Moore's in that. Yeah Roger Moore like

23:54

Roger Moore is the kind of the only

23:57

thing that makes me the class I think

23:59

I would enjoy in boat trip were I

24:01

ever to watch boat trip, which I have not done.

24:04

So I got to say out of these, I, you

24:07

know, I have avoided watching

24:10

boat trip and the cat, the hat for

24:12

years. I think they're the

24:14

ones I, I mean, maybe I'm

24:16

just making assumptions cause I have not seen them, but the

24:19

ones I feel like have

24:21

the most, uh, notice that Dan

24:23

didn't say that he has not watched the real Cancun.

24:27

I've not seen the real camp Cancun, but

24:29

at least the real camp. Yeah. It's hard

24:32

to say the real Cancun, uh, I

24:35

assume delivers on some of what

24:37

it's trying to promise me. Yeah.

24:39

So at least it

24:42

succeeds on its own level. Yeah.

24:44

Well, we had, we can hypothesize that again

24:46

in the, in the absence of data. We

24:50

can only theorize boat trip delivers on

24:52

being a boat trip. I

24:55

will say Giggly was both weirder

24:57

than it was bad in ways that

25:00

I wasn't expecting it to be, but

25:02

better in ways that I wasn't expecting it

25:04

to be. I

25:07

think it was, she really was tough in

25:09

that it's not good and it's too long

25:11

and the characters are not likable and it,

25:13

the story doesn't always make sense. And it's

25:15

offensive, but it is offensive in trying to

25:18

do something progressive and failing,

25:20

you know? Like it has,

25:22

it, Julie is not good, but yet has

25:24

good intentions for much of the time, I

25:26

guess, but it, those good and bad

25:28

ways. Yeah. You're

25:31

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25:33

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32:05

we're doing two shows in one night at Oxford

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32:09

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32:12

World. Now that's The Avengers based on the British

32:14

TV show. Just another example of

32:16

Americans coming in and ruining a British thing, just

32:19

like we did with what, Doctor Who and a

32:21

number of other properties. And

32:23

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32:25

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32:30

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32:32

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32:49

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33:03

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game. Yeah, and for some

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reason the URL for, to go

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straight to it is flophousepodcast.com/event slash

33:12

the dash flop dash house dash

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in dash Oxford dash England dash

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33:18

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33:20

click on the Oxford England entry, and you'll find links

33:22

there for both the film and the 9

33:25

p.m. shows. And you know why I did that. So,

33:29

hey, if there's anyone out there who

33:31

wants to be a webmaster for the

33:33

flophouse, get in touch with me. Because

33:35

we had a wonderful person design our

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website, but they couldn't stay on as

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a webmaster for their own reasons. And

33:42

so I'm working with the template that

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has been set long ago, and

33:46

I couldn't do a thing

33:49

that accommodated having a late and

33:52

an early show in the

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same place without confusing the system. And

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so I put the links in separately.

34:00

So if anyone knows how to hack the

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very glad to be there We love our English

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and it is a culmination of a dream. Yeah.

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to rezzing it up on the rezzle

36:25

with some rezzies. Razzle dazzle with the

36:27

old razzle master Dan Madazzle

36:29

McCoy. I want Dan

36:32

to be a Batman villain now called the

36:35

razzle dazzler. Yeah that's we're writing the name

36:37

of the episode as we speak so yeah

36:39

what your take us back in time Dan where are

36:41

we? Yeah we're gonna take we're gonna hop

36:43

in the old cinematic the dazzling

36:45

and go back in time metaphorically

36:48

gonna go back in time but

36:51

not literally yeah. So

36:53

2001. Oh Face Odyssey. Mm-hmm the film that

36:56

won that year was Freddy

37:02

Got Fingered starring Tom Green. Had a

37:04

little bit of a torn. Had a

37:06

little bit of a cultural reevaluation right?

37:08

There's some things. You know what I

37:11

mean. I feel like the pendulum swings on that one pretty

37:13

fast. I wouldn't call

37:15

myself a fan per se but I respect

37:18

it it's a film that goes all out

37:20

in its vision of assaultive

37:22

comedy. What else

37:24

we got that year that was not made

37:26

we have Driven. Cologne?

37:29

It's a race car driver yeah. Glitter.

37:31

Maricary. Maricary,

37:39

sorry. Pearl Harbor of

37:41

course. Michael Bayes. Oh

37:45

we didn't actually do the other one we did

37:47

Battleship. Battleship a very different movie

37:49

from Pearl Harbor but

37:51

it's I guess all those old Pearl Harbor

37:54

survivors join at the end right and help

37:56

them save the day. Yeah that's why I

37:58

thought that. Yeah and of course 3,000

38:00

miles to Graceland and Here's

38:04

here's a here's a few additions courtesy

38:06

of yours truly We

38:10

could also add to that corkier mono when

38:12

America collectively said no, thank you to Chris

38:14

Catan as a leading man Crocodile

38:18

Dundee in Los Angeles a film with

38:20

no jokes in it But

38:23

the third one Yes,

38:25

it is a must be one that the movies.

38:28

It's no joke in purpose It's a kitchen

38:30

sink drama right about life on the streets

38:32

Well, I was like they movies became progressively

38:35

more just action movies starring the crocodile Dundee

38:39

That's the character's name not of course all

38:42

Hogan's the actual Hogan yeah I'm

38:45

gonna toss in Tom cats

38:47

because If the phrase really

38:49

haven't thought it off with

38:52

that shit If

38:54

the phrase Jerry O'Connell and Shannon Elizabeth

38:57

and a sex comedy doesn't immediately date

38:59

this to 2001 I

39:01

don't know what else might and

39:04

of course my old my old roommate who's a

39:06

mutual friend of Dan and mine She

39:09

when she moved in I think that was like

39:11

one of two DVDs She oh She

39:15

had Tom can't yes why I

39:17

don't know ask her texture right

39:19

now And

39:22

of course Lastly I'm

39:24

tossing in final fantasy the spirits within

39:26

the film so boring. I apologize for

39:28

my ex-wife particular to it So

39:31

that's the opposite of what happened when I took when

39:33

I was dating my now wife and I was going

39:36

to go see Superman returns And it

39:38

was a very hot day and she was like I'm gonna

39:40

see this movie the movie she goes it's hot out Why

39:42

don't I go with you'll be air-conditioned there? I'm like well

39:44

you're not gonna enjoy it I don't even know if I'm

39:46

going to it will be very I think you're gonna be

39:48

bored She's like I'll just go and I didn't and the

39:50

average was like you were right that was very boring So

39:52

I feel like I'm pretty boring, but it did

39:55

feature Elliott's favorite actor kids Yeah,

39:57

love him can't wait for his return Uh,

40:02

yeah, this one's tough only because

40:04

I feel like, again, the two

40:07

most, uh, sort of

40:09

promising contenders for me for

40:12

films that I personally would

40:15

dislike the most. I have not seen because

40:17

my, you know, I have to

40:19

protect myself a certain amount, even though I've

40:21

made a, yeah, you gotta guard your heart,

40:23

a life of watching bad movies. I do

40:25

have my limits and my limits are not

40:27

watching either Corky Romano or Tom K. Yeah,

40:30

that's the right choice. I feel like, I

40:32

feel like a stewardship for the, you are

40:34

curating flop TV season two as I feel

40:36

like it too. Yeah.

40:39

Uh, I haven't seen some

40:41

of these. I feel like, uh,

40:43

I don't know, Pearl

40:46

Harbor. I feel like Pearl Harbor's worthy

40:48

of some critique because it's like,

40:50

it's this big budget thing that's a

40:52

mess and shitty. Well, certainly if the

40:55

Razzies were, I think what their ideal

40:57

version would be, which is like really

40:59

like, okay, here are the

41:01

big movies of the year, which

41:03

one of these failed, you

41:05

know, Pearl Harbor would certainly be

41:07

a movie that. Yeah, it's

41:10

just, it's the dumbest,

41:12

like wrong glossy version

41:14

of history. It

41:17

also, it shows you how much the Razzies just

41:19

lean into things that have celebrities in them. Like,

41:21

driven is a pretty nothing movie

41:23

for the most part, but I guess because it has Stallone

41:25

in it and like 3000 miles to

41:28

Graceland is perfectly serviceable. You know, uh,

41:30

but it has big stars in it.

41:32

And it does open with that really

41:34

cool CGI scorpion fight. Yeah.

41:38

They saw the wild bunch with, they were like,

41:40

we don't need real things, real bugs fighting. We

41:42

use, we use CGI. Um,

41:44

wild bunch and ants say movie. Um,

41:50

but yeah, I think it's, yeah,

41:52

it's hard to, I mean, the thing is also,

41:54

I also have not seen Tom Katz or Courtney

41:56

Romano. And I'm worried that I am. I'm going

41:58

to say fucking suck. Have

42:00

you seen it? I guess you made only the

42:03

DVD. Yeah, there was definitely a night. I mean,

42:05

we're we're in our 20s. We had a limited

42:07

DVD collection. We

42:10

all got really fucking high. And I

42:12

think we watched Tom Katz and then

42:14

former host of the flop. As Simon

42:16

Fisher got really sick because he can't

42:18

handle weed and barf. That's what

42:20

happened. That's the story. And he's not going to listen

42:22

to this. So he can't say I'm wrong. Yeah. I

42:26

also can't handle Tom Katz. Yeah,

42:28

that could have been it. Actually, that would make actually. I mean,

42:30

the Tom Katz is the problem. Yeah. Let us,

42:32

you know, go ahead

42:35

another year to 2002. Oh

42:37

man, just one year swept away.

42:40

Guy Ritchie's collaboration. We

42:43

kind of stalled out his career. Donna is

42:46

then wife. I feel like he makes a movie three

42:48

movies a year. I mean, I think it stalled it

42:50

out. Yeah, for a little bit. Yeah. That

42:53

that was what took the prize. Also

42:55

nominated. We've got the Adventures

42:58

of Pluto Nash. Very

43:00

bad and expensive. Yes. Crossroads,

43:03

the Britney Spears movie.

43:05

Pop star movie. No, no

43:07

fair. Pinocchio. This is a

43:10

Benigni version and Star Wars episodes

43:12

to attack of the clones. It's

43:14

a little indie film called

43:16

Star Wars. Absolutely. Around the time

43:19

I perimeter create. That's all I

43:21

can say. I mean, to

43:23

be honest, Star Wars episode two is an indie film. And

43:26

once that prior started, I think Lucas

43:28

was funding all those themselves. I guess

43:30

so. I've got

43:32

some additions here. fear.com.

43:35

Imagine how scary would be the log on to

43:37

fear.com? Oh,

43:42

I'm not not a fan of fear.com. Ballistic

43:44

X versus several. Of course, we covered that on

43:47

the last. That was pretty fantastic. Yep.

43:49

Can't trap us into watching that in season two. We watch

43:51

it in season one movie. We watched

43:53

entirely because of how much we reference the name.

43:56

And I think it was my least favorite of

43:58

the season. That was that is. the

44:00

most that is the most I mean

44:02

the thing is what makes a bad movie if

44:04

something is memorably bad or nothing we

44:06

bet because that's an extra several I was like this

44:09

movie is just it's like there's nothing there like

44:11

there's nothing in it it's just I

44:13

do love that Ellie just dropped a like like

44:16

a gear metal Toro movie monologue

44:18

what is a bad is

44:22

it the ghost of a feeling allow me to

44:25

open my cabinet of curiosities and see

44:27

what we have sorry

44:31

this is my wondering for you I

44:34

borrowing it from mr. McGauriam yeah we

44:37

also have Joanna man okay

44:40

well that's gonna get my vote I think man

44:42

dresses like a woman to get into women's basketball

44:44

comedy that is offensive in multiple

44:47

ways the can't make a comedy like that

44:49

anymore we got there

44:51

are I feel like there are many big-name comedians

44:53

who are essentially making that comedy yes right all

44:55

the time and Netflix is like yes please we

44:57

love it yum yum yum master

44:59

of disguise apparently not turtle enough to get into

45:02

the golden raspberry club oh is that the comment

45:04

that they said I want to see

45:06

that shit let's put it on season 2 possibility

45:12

the hot chick another

45:15

probably insensitive cross-dressing nobody with

45:17

Rob spider in it I'm

45:19

sure he handled it sensitively

45:23

and sorority boys what

45:25

the hell what's this year what

45:27

was going on that year what's

45:29

going on you know what

45:31

I mean what yours is 2002 yeah I mean to be honest

45:33

it's it it's like

45:38

I'm saying this this is not a good thing this

45:40

is wrong but I feel like at

45:42

a time when the 90s was at

45:44

least my experience growing up absorbing

45:47

that culture so much of it

45:49

was people being forced to start

45:51

recognizing the LGB community

45:54

at least not yet the tea community but

45:56

the LGB community as a human

45:59

beings that exist and have feelings. And so

46:01

gender roles were changing and Hollywood reacted by

46:03

making a bunch of shit that's real offensive

46:06

and isn't good. But it feels like it,

46:08

I understand why that element is in

46:10

the air, you know? And

46:12

like, and like 9-11 guys, you know, never forget

46:14

the hot chicks on 9-11. I'm all for it.

46:19

Why not? No,

46:21

no, Dan, the hot chicks hands

46:23

are not clean. Don't say it was in the waking.

46:25

No, I think we have to bundle

46:28

these three comedies

46:30

that we can leave in the garbage and I don't

46:32

want to talk about this. Move on to... Yeah,

46:35

the three way Razzie tie. Oh,

46:39

we're going back again. Gotta

46:42

go back even further in time. Now

46:46

this is one case for,

46:49

on the Criterion Channel, the film that they're featuring is

46:51

not one worst picture for the Razzies

46:54

that year. I think they just wanted

46:56

to feature this film because it

46:58

has been reevaluated. That is of

47:00

course Ishtar, Elaine

47:03

May's Ishtar. They also may have had

47:05

it left over from their

47:07

Elaine May series. I'm not

47:09

sold on Ishtar. I

47:13

love the Criterion Channel, but they do occasionally reshuffle

47:15

the same movies into different collections. And I'm like,

47:17

Criterion Channel, but I do love them. They're my

47:19

favorite stream service. I think Elsa Stewart and

47:21

not sold on Ishtar. I think it is not as bad as

47:23

people say, but it is not as good as the people who like

47:26

it say. Yeah, I also

47:28

agree. For more thoughts on Ishtar, for a

47:30

longer version that ends

47:32

up in that conclusion, listen to our

47:34

Ishtar episode. Hodgman on that one? I

47:37

think Hodgman may have been. We've

47:39

had a guest. I think it's... I think it's Hodgman.

47:41

No, he was on 1941. I

47:43

think that's what you're thinking of, 1941. No,

47:45

maybe. I can't remember. I

47:48

mean, certainly not my favorite Isabella Johnny movie.

47:51

There's certainly no way of finding out.

47:53

Here, I'm gonna Google Ishtar

47:56

flop us to find out about our own show.

47:58

Okay, well, I'm just gonna walk... Watch over Dan's

48:00

shoulder, he types. Narrate it. He's only using one

48:02

hand to type. I'm gonna watch over Zoom, I'm

48:04

gonna watch Stewart's face as he watches Dan type.

48:07

Episode 230. Now there's no

48:09

listed guest. But

48:11

again, the last episode were recorded

48:13

all together in my

48:15

apartment where you moved, Elliot. So I think

48:18

that maybe that's the special thing that you're

48:20

remembering. Maybe that's it. And it's certainly my

48:22

feelings on Ishtar. I had to leave that

48:24

part of the country and go somewhere else after watching

48:26

it. I think

48:29

Ishtar is mediocre, but not a business.

48:32

The winner that year, this may be a rare

48:34

case of the Razzies getting it right, we'll see.

48:37

Leonard part six, a last

48:40

list spy comedy starring a

48:42

sex friend. Starring a monster,

48:44

yeah, sure. And not

48:46

the fun kind of monster like Dracula or

48:48

Frankenstein. But,

48:51

or Charlize the Rhon. The

48:55

other films nominated that year, Jaws is a

48:58

Revenge. That's

49:01

a fun, bad movie. We've done a lot of show about

49:03

it. That's a fun, bad movie. Not available. But

49:05

we did one. It has a personal grudge against the Brodies.

49:09

Who's that girl, another Madonna? Never seen it.

49:11

Oh, I've never seen it. It's okay. It's

49:13

like Madonna and Griffin Dunn kind of doing

49:15

an updated screwball. I actually don't

49:17

mind it. Tough Guys Don't

49:20

Dance, a movie that is

49:22

nutty. Yeah, that's the movie that I

49:24

went to. When I was a teenager,

49:26

my grandmother took me to the Museum of Modern

49:28

Art and they had a series going on of

49:31

films in their theater that were writers

49:33

directing films and Tough Guys Don't Dance was the one they

49:35

were showing that day and my grandmother was like, well, let's

49:37

go see it. Norman Mailer, let's go see it. And within

49:39

10 minutes, she said, this is not for us and walked

49:41

out. And

49:44

I later read the movie and it is, it's

49:46

a bonkers one, yeah. It's an experience. That's one

49:48

that I think is, if

49:51

you have fun, just for bad movies, it's worth

49:53

watching that one. It's worth at least just for

49:55

the, oh, wow, oh man, oh no. What's the

49:57

scene is where he's having trouble emoting it. Trouble

50:00

he's in And

50:02

I have the most additions for this year. This

50:05

is a 87

50:07

87 is a banner year for big

50:09

bad movies a crime. Listen to what

50:12

I got Here we got Superman

50:14

4 John Cryer

50:16

has Lex Luthor's My

50:19

favorite of the series when I was a kid Riff

50:23

show on that in Chicago. Yeah, we did.

50:25

Yeah We've got

50:28

Mannequin a movie that gave

50:31

me Audrey and my karaoke

50:33

duet of choice and Defacto

50:35

then wedding song nothing's gonna stop us

50:38

now, but still not good Now

50:41

the music you walk down the aisle though to

50:43

win the Twin Peaks theme We

50:45

did walk down the aisle to the Twin Peaks

50:48

thing a during tale of immortal

50:50

love the Twin Peaks Mm-hmm

50:54

Walk like a man How a

50:57

man Dell is raised by Timberwolves and steps people's butts.

50:59

No, I'm thinking of a different movie What's the movie

51:01

with I'm thinking of heart and souls which uses the

51:03

song walk like a man in it with Robert Denny

51:05

Jr. Never mind Munchies

51:09

a movie that is nearly unwatchable even

51:11

though it has little puppet monsters in

51:13

it. Yep. Yep We've

51:15

got disorderlies where the fat boys Three

51:21

suges were the fat boys and that's it. That's the whole

51:24

movie Nuki

51:26

Ellie's beloved Nuki also

51:29

covered on flop TV. Oh rough

51:32

Again, I have come to reevaluate it since watching

51:34

the garbage real kids movie again Well, you know

51:36

what else was released in 87 the garbage pill

51:38

kids movie Just

51:40

did here in Brooklyn. It'll show

51:42

up on the main field eventually like

51:45

they used to though Wow 87 what?

51:48

What yeah, really? Yeah,

51:52

great. What in reverse? Yeah, what one

51:54

one best picture that year? I'm gonna

51:56

look at bill kids Yeah,

52:01

these are, I mean, the thing is, these

52:04

are bad movies, but with the exception,

52:06

I would say of Nuki and

52:08

Ellie would say of Garbage Pail Kids for different

52:10

reasons. Like I think Nuki,

52:12

I think Nuki is just too boring, but I think

52:14

that these are a lot of fun, bad movies. Some

52:16

of them are, yeah. So for

52:18

looking at, just to answer your questions, Stuart, so

52:20

usually the Oscars, they're for the movies from the

52:22

previous year, right? So in 1988, covering

52:25

the movies that came out in 87, the winner

52:27

was The Last Emperor. So

52:30

this was the year that NN nominated and I

52:33

think should have won was Moonstruck. But

52:35

this is for the same year Moonstruck and the

52:38

Garbage Pail Kids came out in theaters. Yeah.

52:42

Two films about love. Yeah,

52:46

there's some real Stink-a-roonies in that

52:48

year. But I think, I mean,

52:50

I feel like Leonard Parton is a solid... Yeah,

52:53

I think they did it right that time. We gotta give

52:55

it to the Razzies. Even a

52:57

stopped clock is right sometimes when it comes

52:59

to a criminal being in a movie. You're

53:01

gonna stop clock Razzies correctly

53:03

every once in a while.

53:07

So yeah, that

53:09

was a little trip down memory

53:11

lane of bad movies past. And

53:14

also Dan, self-launching a

53:16

slate of films for us to watch. Yeah, next time

53:18

can we take a trip down Nathan Lane? That sounds

53:20

like more fun. I highly

53:23

recommend watching Dicks

53:25

the Musical. If you're looking for a trip

53:27

down Nathan Lane. Yeah. And

53:29

if Criterion Channel wants to toss

53:31

us a couple of bucks for this

53:34

unpaid advertisement for this service. I

53:36

keep asking Shudder to do the same thing. You

53:39

know, some swag will be

53:41

fine too. That's also good. Whatever we can squeeze

53:43

out of this. I mean, the fact is also that

53:46

we know someone who works there so we can get

53:48

swag. Yeah,

53:50

but it's not as much fun that way. Yeah,

53:53

it's true. One of my best friends of all

53:55

time works there. It's true. It's different

53:57

when you have to like call in a favor

53:59

from a person. friend as opposed to getting

54:01

swag for just being like Dan

54:03

McCoy. Yeah, man. You know, just

54:05

being the coolest dude, the coolest

54:07

dude on that note. Finally

54:11

giving me the quote that's on his posters.

54:14

Now the coolest dude. Oh,

54:16

well, Dan already got business cards. Sunglasses

54:19

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