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this episode we discuss Roadhouse

1:04

oh shit. I love that movie with

1:06

Patrick Swayze No,

1:09

it's the new one not the sequel Roadhouse

1:11

to that doesn't have Patrick Swayze What

1:15

there's a movie called Roadhouse to guys.

1:17

I think I watched toad house. Is that the same

1:19

movie? Hey

1:43

Everyone welcome to the flophouse. I'm Dan McCoy. Hey

1:46

Dan McCoy. It's me Stuart Wellington your friend

1:49

Hey Dan McCoy. Hey Stuart Wellington a

1:51

third friend is here your friend Elliot

1:53

Kalin who is me speaking right now

1:55

Yeah, that's right the three friends Suck

1:58

it blunch. We got one more Oh,

2:00

anyway, so this is

2:02

a podcast where we

2:05

talk about a bad movie that

2:07

we've watched all of us. Or a good movie. Or

2:09

a good movie. Sometimes it's a good movie. Here's

2:12

the thing. Sometimes it's neither good nor bad,

2:14

but just a movie, Dan. Not everyone is

2:16

a hero or a villain. It's always a

2:18

movie though, right? We are led to this

2:21

movie. We sniff it out with our noses

2:23

like Cartoon Hobo's, the smell of a movie

2:25

wafts towards us and we fly towards it.

2:27

And it's because either audiences

2:29

have rejected it, critics have rejected

2:31

it, or it's just kind of

2:33

gotten mediocre reviews, but we're sort of interested in

2:35

talking about it. I love it when

2:38

they leave a bad movie to cool on their

2:40

windowsill for us to catch away. Sometimes

2:43

we walk through the neighborhoods and we see

2:46

the markings that other movie hobos have left

2:48

that say, a nice lady with movies lives

2:50

here. Or a mean man will

2:52

cheer you. So

3:00

this time we watched Road

3:02

House, which is interesting because

3:04

it is a remake of a highly

3:07

beloved movie of the past that

3:09

was not that was

3:11

got bad reviews. It's not the Wizard of Oz. Well,

3:16

this is what I'm saying. I don't want, I was

3:18

trying to avoid calling Road House a

3:21

great bad movie of the past because I've

3:23

come around to the idea that Road House

3:25

is doing exactly what Road House needs to

3:27

do. It's not necessarily bad.

3:30

It's just highly silly. It's a

3:32

highly silly kind of

3:34

lunk headed movie that's lovable, like

3:36

a big dumb like Collie dog

3:38

or whatever. I

3:40

know you guys, I'm pretty professional when it comes

3:42

to being a movie podcaster. So I rewatch the

3:45

original Road House. But yeah, I rewatched it over

3:47

the weekend and you would

3:49

have done this anyway. Research Wellington. It's

3:52

really good. The hit I

3:54

sacrificed the time I would have spent with anything

3:56

other than the original Road House and watch the

3:58

original Road House movie. I assume you already. Yeah.

4:01

I make road. Your regular Saturday

4:03

night thing. I mean, that should

4:05

be, I feel like that's

4:08

a great Saturday night. Yeah. Crack open

4:10

a couple of brews, maybe order some

4:12

Zah with the rent. Yeah.

4:14

As long as you don't finish any words, I

4:16

think it'll be okay. If you're unfamiliar

4:19

with the original road house,

4:22

uh, directed by Rowdy Harrington, owner

4:24

of the

4:27

best name and direct directors. Uh,

4:30

it's about a famous bouncer who

4:32

is learned from his existing

4:34

bouncing job down to a harder

4:37

bouncing job in the middle of

4:39

nowhere where a road house is

4:41

being bedeviled by, uh, I don't

4:44

know, bad, bad, bad people.

4:46

Evil land developer Ben Gazzara. Yes. A lot

4:48

of big names involved Ben Gazzara, Patrick Swayze

4:50

and of course the director, Rowdy Harrington, like

4:52

you mentioned the director of gladiator. Mm-hmm.

4:55

Not that one. The 1992, Q.B.A. Junior

4:57

sports movie. It's a boxing movie. Yeah.

5:00

Uh, did Rowdy Harrington, did he also do,

5:02

um, Ricochet? Was he the electrician on Humanoids

5:04

from the Deep and Hot? Yes, he was

5:07

the electrician on Humanoids from the Deep and

5:09

Hot. You're right. Danny, where's the movie Hot?

5:11

Russell McKay. Was he the grip on Repo

5:13

Man? Yes, he was. Uh, well

5:15

that's not, that's where he learned his bona fides.

5:17

Is he credited as the best boy electric for

5:20

a nightmare in Elm Street? No, that was Russell

5:22

McKay. Yes, he is. Sorry. Uh,

5:25

what, what else did Rowdy Harrington

5:27

direct though? Directed Jack's back during

5:29

the Roadhouse. Jack's back. Directing

5:31

distance. The movie where Jack the

5:33

Ripper has returned, uh, maybe.

5:37

And James Spader's involved

5:40

somehow. Uh-huh. And still

5:42

alive. His last film was in

5:44

2004. Uh, but he's still around.

5:46

Uh, let's get him on

5:49

the show. Rowdy. Yeah. Thanks for

5:51

joining us. Hey everybody, it's me,

5:53

Rowdy Harrington. Oh wow. And I'm

5:56

just so glad that you're deciding to

5:58

talk about my magnum opus. us. Gladiator

6:01

is starting. Kewbell Green jr. No, we, that

6:04

was just a passing mention. We're actually talking

6:06

about a roadhouse. Your movie at Patrick Swayze.

6:09

Not familiar. It's your most

6:12

famous film by far. As you

6:14

can guess by a man named rowdy's name. I

6:16

have been hit in the head many times

6:18

in the course of my adventures.

6:20

I don't always remember my films,

6:22

but I remember one movie Gladiator

6:25

because how do you forget winning

6:27

best picture? Yeah. Best

6:29

picture winner. Gladiator. Oh

6:31

boy. Kewbell Green jr. Let's just let him have

6:33

this one. Rowdy. I want

6:35

to say I appreciate your, uh, your, the

6:38

way you lean back from the microphone

6:40

every time you get particular rowdy. You're

6:43

as loud and rowdy as I am.

6:45

Okay. Well, thank you for my movie

6:47

striking distance. Tell you a funny story

6:49

about it. It was just called distance.

6:52

No. And I was like, Hey, people are

6:55

going to wonder what distance this is. And I'm

6:57

like, is this a distance you could strike at?

6:59

And, uh, the scientists looked at it and

7:02

they figured they did the random numbers and

7:04

said, yes, you could strike at this distance.

7:06

And I said, let's call it striking distance.

7:08

And that's how the movie got its title. I

7:11

do have a question about striking distance. What

7:13

was it like working with the dad from

7:15

Frasier? Well, he has a name.

7:19

His name is John Mahoney.

7:21

And I'll tell you if there's a guy

7:23

who's rowdier than me, it is the

7:25

late John Mahoney.

7:27

What a star. What a rowdy guy.

7:30

The number of times we tied one

7:32

on and blows down not just bars,

7:34

but also toys are us is it

7:36

was a round that we have. That's

7:39

what I had. I'm rowdy. Erington director

7:41

of the academy award winner, gladiator, and

7:43

also Jack's back. The story of

7:45

Jack Nicholson. Okay. Well, uh, you know, we got

7:47

to record a mini after this one. I'm in charge

7:50

of it. It might be a little long. So we're

7:52

going to have to say goodbye to you rowdy. Uh,

7:54

I don't think so. Routing in calls the shots. See

7:56

this I'm rowdy. I don't just do what people tell

7:59

me. Well you

8:01

uh... Listen Daniel, I was the electrician on hot,

8:03

okay? So you don't tell me what to do,

8:05

I know you what to do. You know what,

8:07

suddenly I'm more interested in what was that experience

8:09

like. Yeah, is the electrician a character or is

8:11

that his job? Did you know all those women

8:13

were robots? Wow. They were all robots.

8:16

The electrician job was very complicated on hot. That's

8:18

why they have that uh, acronym name.

8:22

Yep, it stands for purinistic, omnidirectional,

8:25

technological, and then the S stands

8:28

for a word that now is

8:30

a little sex not positive. Right, sure, sure. But

8:33

in 1979 things were different, things were

8:35

a little rowdier, and to tell you,

8:38

I'm kinda, kinda makes me kinda sad that the

8:40

world's not as rowdy as it once was. Sure

8:42

it's better in almost every other way, but it's

8:45

less rowdy. Yeah,

8:47

tales of rowdiness passed. Now before I

8:49

go, if you like to hire me

8:52

for a children's birthday party so I

8:54

can help things get rowdy, hire

8:58

me, I operate under as

9:00

a clown who's also named howdy, instead

9:02

of rowdy herrington, I'm rowdy hahainton, and

9:04

that's my clown name. I thought you

9:06

were gonna say your name was howdy

9:08

rarington, and you're a cowboy clown. That's

9:10

a damn good clown name. That's like

9:13

a cowboy clown. Yes, new clown name,

9:15

gotta go, rowdy out. Okay,

9:18

well let's talk about it. Howdy

9:20

in. So

9:22

that was... So, Danny, he redirects the one we're talking

9:24

about today. No, that was an

9:26

old Roadhouse, a movie that,

9:29

again, very silly. We'll probably rarely multiple

9:31

times over the course of a lot of times. I don't

9:33

see how we don't. But this

9:35

is... Especially when at the very end

9:37

of the movie, a famous line from

9:40

the original Roadhouse is, seemed to

9:42

be ADR'd in, and I wasn't even sure which

9:44

character was saying it. Yeah. In

9:46

the final fight scene, you hear someone suddenly say, be

9:48

nice, and I wasn't sure who was saying it or

9:50

why. Yeah. Yeah, but they

9:52

did say it in the original one. Mm-hmm. Yeah,

9:55

you expect like Ed Boone to pop up in the

9:57

corner to show you that, like,

9:59

that's... a reference like yeah exactly

10:02

does a little toast here but we're not

10:05

yeah we're not talking about the old Roadhouse

10:07

running about a new one directed by Doug

10:09

Lyman of the only director with the

10:11

flavor of Lyman and Lime swingers and

10:13

mr. and mrs. Smith edge

10:16

of tomorrow probably one of his

10:18

strongest I know his live die

10:21

repeat yeah he's a

10:23

strong director maybe on this one

10:25

director of previous

10:27

flophouse film jumper yeah

10:32

minor works so

10:35

yeah they made they remade Roadhouse because

10:37

there's no IP that can't be exploited

10:39

these days and let's get

10:41

into it people are super famous

10:44

bouncers right so they decided to

10:46

make a movie about how strange is

10:48

it that the writer and director

10:50

of swingers a low-budget comedy about

10:53

LA lounge lizards ended

10:56

up both becoming like major action directors yeah

10:58

that that Doug Lyman making mostly action movies

11:00

these days and John Favreau living in these

11:02

Star Wars and Marvel universes it's not what

11:04

I expected when I saw swingers as a

11:06

teenager and still being a teenager was like

11:09

these are the coolest guys in the world

11:11

you know yeah you were like wow

11:13

these guys are so money and they don't even know it

11:15

yeah guys don't even know how money they are there was

11:17

like a week where me and my friends called each other

11:20

money and we felt so stupid that we stuff doing it

11:22

as well you should

11:24

have I feel like you should start doing it again

11:26

I think you do just like

11:29

ratty hair again you're due for another do you think

11:31

the cool guys have now call each other crypto hmm

11:34

I don't know Dan what do you think

11:36

what's your definition of cool here well

11:40

they wear they wear bowling shirts and sunglasses

11:42

so they're pretty cool cool yeah Superman's dog

11:44

is like me and they're like

11:48

no not you crypto hmm I

11:52

being a bowling shirt so I'm

11:54

wearing a sort of a Hawaiian

11:57

ask shirt not like maybe full Hawaiian but you

11:59

know when Why don't you give a spin Dan so we

12:01

can show it on. Yeah. And

12:05

you know, as a middle-aged- As the sound Dan makes when he

12:07

spins, it's not from his mouth, it's just the sound of his

12:09

feet make, yeah. I feel like,

12:11

you know, as a middle-aged man who

12:13

has grown a little more zaftig over the

12:16

years, like- Move and ask.

12:20

The Hawaiian shirt is

12:22

a choice that I enjoy, I've

12:25

embraced for some reason, but I also feel like it says

12:27

a thing about me that

12:31

I don't necessarily like, not

12:33

quite sure that thing is, but it also like

12:35

makes me feel uncool. So- What

12:37

it says is you are, you're

12:40

growing older and you're a little

12:42

rowdy. Yeah, I've been

12:44

a little rowdy over the years. So this

12:46

movie- You're on vacation, dude. Yeah,

12:48

I'm on island time. Permit vacation.

12:51

Stars Jake Gyllenhaal

12:56

as the Dalton, this version, this new

12:58

Dalton, we'll get into that later. His

13:01

name literally is B

13:04

Dalton, right? Oh, his first name's Elwood, I'm sorry.

13:06

His first name is- Elwood

13:08

Dalton, you know, the

13:11

previous Roadhouse man,

13:15

the bouncer, Patrick Swayze was

13:18

Jake Dalton, meaning this is, of course, Jake

13:20

and Elwood, a weird Blues Brothers reference

13:22

hidden in here. And on purpose, right? Oh,

13:25

why not? Yeah, you don't happen upon

13:27

that. Yeah, you don't name a character

13:30

Elwood by mistake. Thanks, Joe. Anyway,

13:32

we see Jake Gyllenhaal. I don't know what happened, doctor. I

13:34

drank too much and I blacked out when I woke up,

13:37

my character's name was Elwood. Jake

13:40

Gyllenhaal, we see him, he's in

13:42

a hoodie. He enters an underground

13:44

MMA tournament. There, you

13:46

know, he walks very slowly

13:48

towards it. Also, also

13:50

in attendance, Jessica Williams, our former coworker.

13:54

Flophouse guest and current neighbor of

13:56

mine. Really? Do you see her

13:58

ever? I do, when I'm out. taking walks, usually

14:00

I walk in, yeah. Tell

14:03

her I like her on that

14:05

show she's on. Shrinkles. She's great at

14:07

shrinking, yeah. Very funny. And she's not

14:09

bad in this. She's great at

14:11

this. She's good in this. I thought she's really good

14:13

in it, yeah. One of the most sort of likable

14:16

presences in the movie, just sort of relaxed,

14:18

laid back immediately sympathetic. For an action movie,

14:20

this is a very laid back movie. And

14:22

I wanna say, I did not have time

14:24

to watch the old one. Stewart, is the

14:27

original Roadhouse as laid back as this one

14:29

kicks into high gear in the third act.

14:31

But until then, there's a kind of burn

14:33

notice kind of laid back, hanging up vibe

14:35

to it, yeah. No, I mean, I

14:37

feel like the original follows

14:41

that like 80s action movie

14:44

pace of like constant stuff is

14:46

happening. You

14:48

gotta get on that ride or else it'll

14:50

leave you at the station. Okay. Okay.

14:55

Well, so, you know,

14:58

Jake enters this Octagon

15:00

area. The man

15:02

who has previously been beating at all

15:05

comers is too scared to fight. Notorious

15:07

hard body. Good feeling, all. Post Malone.

15:09

Is that who it is? Yeah. Okay. Who,

15:12

by all accounts, I'm sure he's a nice

15:14

fella, but that's part of why I don't

15:17

quite buy him as like

15:19

a bare knuckle boxer type. He

15:21

just seems too nice. Well,

15:24

we'll get a genuinely bad man. So,

15:29

Stu, what did you think of the moment

15:31

when Jake Gyllenhaal comes into challenge and takes

15:33

off his hoodie and is ripped?

15:35

For anyone who saw us on our West

15:37

Coast tour, Stu had a whole presentation about

15:39

big beefy hard body boys in the movies.

15:41

Well, that's the thing, like he's, I mean,

15:43

he definitely put in the work, but a

15:45

lot of it's like, he's just so chopped

15:47

up. Like he's so, his body fat is

15:50

so low. So he's got those bicep veins

15:52

popping. He's got his cum gutters, nice and

15:54

deep, right Dan? That's not what I'm saying.

15:56

I mean, he, like he just looks so

15:58

skinny. Like, like. The guy should

16:00

eat something. It's not like he's an iron claw. Those

16:02

boys were big boys. Yeah, those

16:05

were big beefy boys. So

16:07

Jill in all takes it all

16:09

because it's a winner take all competition. Just by

16:11

walking in, he has gotten 500 bucks or

16:14

whatever. So the

16:16

other fighter recognized him and says, I'm not gonna fight

16:18

this guy. Yeah, out in the parking lot afterwards, that

16:21

guy angry at losing his payday

16:24

stabs Dalton, but

16:26

he, you know, Dalton's calm

16:29

and cool. Just sort of like, like, do

16:31

you really want to do this? He's like holding the knife

16:33

hand and he scares off this

16:35

guy. How would you describe Jill in

16:37

Hall's vibe in this movie? Uh,

16:41

sort of sedated. He's

16:43

got like kind of

16:45

a. I would call him sensitive, vulnerable, tough

16:47

guy. Somebody pointed out, somebody,

16:50

I think it was on letterbox pointed out that it's like,

16:53

Jake Gyllenhaal has already seen the movie. Yeah.

16:57

He's kind of like explaining it to everybody. And

17:00

that's something that their time, his performance, sometimes I

17:02

really liked it because I was like, this is

17:04

a really different way to take this kind of

17:06

character. He is not intense. He is not, he

17:08

doesn't seem tough. He seems like he's about to

17:11

cry at any moment, but he also seems ultra

17:13

confident in how everything's gonna turn out and no

17:15

one can defeat him. But also the, there are

17:17

times when, by the end of the movie, I was

17:19

like, I wonder if this character

17:21

is partly on the spectrum because he's in the middle

17:24

of a fight with somebody and they bump into a

17:26

piano and he goes, this piano is really out of

17:28

tune. He'll suddenly notice a little

17:30

detail about the world around him when he should

17:32

otherwise be fighting. And I was like, I don't

17:34

know if this is on

17:36

purpose or not, but he's a character who feels like he

17:38

is very disconnected to

17:41

what's going on. And sometimes it works for me

17:43

that Jake Gyllenhaal doesn't have that regular tough guy

17:45

demeanor. But sometimes later on when he's like, I'm

17:49

afraid of what happens when I get angry, I'm like,

17:51

I don't really know that he's, I don't see

17:53

the silly edge beneath the velvet glove here. I

17:56

don't like the brooding element. When he's

17:58

like, oh, I'm scared. what I'm

18:00

capable of. I'm not as into that, but like

18:02

the funnier stuff I think he does really well.

18:05

He does a good job as a character who is

18:07

so confident in his own ability to fight anybody that

18:09

he does not have to throw his

18:11

weight around otherwise and he doesn't have to

18:13

seem worried at all. Or like take the

18:16

bait when people are talking shit. Yes. He

18:19

is sort of, yeah, he has this zen politeness

18:21

which is explained later on

18:23

kind of by his tragic backstory that

18:25

we'll get to what he's scared, capable

18:27

of. But, and I like it a

18:29

lot of times and then sometimes it just seems like

18:32

there's something wrong with him. Yeah. That's when there's

18:34

a part where there are parts where he does

18:37

like action movie quips, but the way he delivers

18:39

them, it's as if he's disconnected from the scene.

18:41

So it's like later on him and the, and

18:43

the, and the, the big fighter, bad guy, they're

18:46

in a boat and the guy goes, ah, our

18:48

very own octagon. And, and Jake goes, who taught

18:50

you shapes and

18:52

it's not like he doesn't deliver it like a bat, like

18:54

a, like banter. He delivers it like I don't

18:57

understand what you did. Why you just said that I'm asking you

18:59

a question. Now we have to fight. Yeah.

19:01

Well anyway, like those elements of it a lot. Let's

19:03

get back to the story. Uh, you know,

19:07

while, uh, Jake slash Dalton is duct

19:09

taping up his wound, uh,

19:11

Jessica Williams, introduce the way you should deal with that

19:13

wound, by the way, that is not a great bandage.

19:15

Yeah. And also if you're going

19:18

to turn yourself into a mummy, don't use duct

19:20

tape unless you're some kind of no, like if

19:22

you're a future mummy from like an iron maiden

19:24

album cover or something like that, but yet use

19:26

duct tape mummy of the future. You

19:29

know, remember to leave all of the

19:31

critical holes open on your body. That's

19:33

a just sick. That's your role playing

19:35

porn podcast, right? Dan critical, critical. Yeah.

19:41

Um, anyway, oh God, there's that already exists.

19:43

I'm sure. Um, so Jessica introduces herself or

19:50

character's name is not Jessica Williams. It's

19:52

Frankie. Uh, she owns a roadhouse

19:54

down in the keys that needs protecting from some

19:56

bad dude. What's the name of this roadhouse, Dan?

20:00

Uh, it's named road house

20:02

and two words. And

20:05

later on, I was going to get to this, but let's

20:07

talk about it now later on. There's a bit where like

20:09

Jake Gyllenhaal's like, why should called road

20:11

house? When road houses is one word,

20:14

there's no space in it. And she

20:16

goes, it's a joke. And I'm,

20:18

I'm like movie. You did

20:20

not need to explain this, especially because in

20:23

the original road house, the road house is called

20:25

the double deuce. So you could have just named

20:27

the road house, any fucking thing you wanted rather

20:29

than naming it road house two words, and then

20:31

have a bit about how that's not how road

20:34

houses. I would say the

20:36

weakest parts of this script are the moments

20:38

where they do that or when they're like,

20:40

Oh, uh, you just wandered into town to try and

20:43

clean it up. You're just like, it's just like in

20:45

a Western. I'm like, yeah, no shit, dude. I'm watching

20:47

the movie. When they're, when they're

20:49

calling out the subtext as texts so that the

20:51

people who came here for punching, get it. It,

20:54

those are some of the weaker moments. Yeah. Yeah.

20:56

They, they lampshade a lot of stuff in here

20:58

that doesn't need to be commented on. But anyway,

21:02

uh, so later that night, uh, Dalton contemplates

21:04

killing himself by letting a car hit him

21:06

on the railroad tracks. A train hit him,

21:08

Dan, not just a train car. A

21:11

train car train hit his car. The car of

21:13

a train. You're right, Dan, Dan, do you think trains

21:15

are, do you get trains and cars mixed up

21:17

sometimes? I mean, what are trains, but a bunch of

21:19

cars that run on rails and are hooked up to

21:22

each other. That's

21:24

a very good point. Um, anyway,

21:27

it seems like, like, I have to take the train

21:29

somewhere. It just gets into a stranger's car and drives

21:31

mom. Put

21:35

some conductors hat. He's already wearing the

21:37

L. He's the conductor. Yeah. Yeah. It's

21:39

he changes his mind. However, and originally I was like, well,

21:42

why did you, you know, if you're going to do this,

21:44

why bother winning all that money, but it's a

21:47

good thing. He did because since he doesn't kill

21:49

himself, his car gets beat up. I'm like, well, you're going

21:51

to need that money now. But anyway, um,

21:54

and the reason he gave earlier for not taking the job

21:57

was I like my car. Yeah. So

22:01

he goes down to the Keys. He

22:04

makes fast friends with Charlie, a teenage girl

22:06

who runs a bookstore with her dad, Steven.

22:08

That bookstore being located right next to a

22:10

diner called the Double Deuce, below Easter egg

22:13

for all the Drew fans. Now I do

22:15

like of the changes, I think the idea

22:17

of moving the location of the Roadhouse down

22:19

to the Florida Keys works

22:21

for me. Like I feel like Roadhouse already has

22:25

kind of a Florida energy. I like that

22:28

except for what I'm gonna say literally

22:30

next to my notes is that

22:32

the Roadhouse itself looks less

22:34

like a CD Roadhouse and more like

22:37

any of the many like touristy fish shacks

22:39

that I've gone to with my parents when

22:41

they go down to the Keys. Yeah, that's

22:44

true. Where you get some coconut shrimp and

22:46

a Bahama Mama. Judging by the fact that

22:48

they have a different great live band every

22:50

night. And the client- Except for the band

22:52

that played a fucking Sublime cover. Get that

22:55

shit outta here. They played it

22:57

better than Sublime. Okay, yeah,

22:59

while damning with faint praise. And

23:02

also that the clientele, until

23:04

they start fighting each other, they don't

23:06

look particularly rowdy or tough. They do

23:08

look like- Or

23:10

even that numerous. I mean,

23:13

we have to assume that it

23:15

is the great band that keeps people

23:17

coming back. Because every night there's a

23:19

dangerous fight. Now rewatching

23:22

the original Roadhouse, one

23:24

of my favorite moments in the movie when

23:27

Dalton first goes to the double deuce, the

23:30

Roadhouse. And there's a moment

23:32

where a patron is trying to, is

23:35

propositioning other patrons that

23:37

for $20, they can kiss

23:39

his girlfriend's breath. And

23:42

the one guy's reaction is, are

23:44

you kidding? It

23:47

has the most like, are we having fun

23:49

yet energy? It's so great, I love

23:51

it. So I like Rwanda and watch it three

23:53

times. So the

23:55

thing is, this movie doesn't have that. Yeah, this

23:57

movie is much less sexual. In

24:00

the old road. Yes, I feel even in the wrong. Well,

24:02

that was probably a 89

24:05

like that's the speed yeah As

24:08

with me as with many of the movies of nowadays This is

24:10

a this is a I'm the million

24:12

and hundredth person to say this They

24:15

seem to have replaced the pleasures of physical

24:17

love with the pleasures of physical violence And

24:20

so any energy that might have been put into like

24:22

a real sex scene or something like that has gone

24:24

into Jake Gyllenhaal hitting guys so

24:26

hard that you hear a wet smack when he

24:28

when his yeah So

24:32

that night a bunch of immediately

24:34

aggro bikers start causing trouble and

24:38

Dalton steps in and just like Dalton prime.

24:40

He's nice until time to not be nice

24:44

Don't Nalfa. Yeah. Yeah, he's very polite. He

24:46

lures the guys to the parking lot to

24:48

reduce the collateral damage He asked them politely

24:50

if they have insurance where the nearest hospital

24:53

is That's

24:55

a good joke. Yeah, and he slap fights them until

24:57

they're all Busted up so

24:59

we get it like we get a fight scene

25:01

and a lot of the fight scenes in this

25:04

movie are like super intense And they're fast-moving that

25:06

they've like clearly been digitally tinkered with so

25:08

that it like for some reason just it It

25:12

didn't work in my brain like I was like what

25:14

is happening What's going on and

25:16

I would love that we could just reach

25:18

out to a professional and find out What

25:21

was happening with the digital effects in this

25:23

movie? Wait, I think we

25:25

have a color on the line. Good news. We have

25:28

Todd Vizzieri our our friends

25:30

our CGRA a

25:32

CGI special effects and maybe GRI too.

25:34

I don't know what that is Really

25:37

intense. Oh, yeah We

25:41

asked him to be our special correspondent about

25:44

these digital fights and let's see what he

25:46

had to say Thanks peaches

25:48

flophouse Hollywood correspondent Tava Ziri here reporting

25:50

from Tinseltown the Hollywood dream factory Where

25:53

our imaginations come to life on the

25:55

silver screen in the darkened theater or

25:57

at minimum folks watching it on their

26:00

smartphone while riding the bus. Alex, make sure you

26:02

had some sound effects here to make it seem

26:04

like I'm on a convention floor or something like

26:06

that. Anyway, I'm here gathering information

26:09

about the fight scenes and Roadhouse the 2024

26:12

action movie remake directed by Doug Lyman. And I've

26:14

been hearing a lot of rumblings about people saying

26:16

there's something about the fight scenes that are that

26:19

is a little bit different. It's a little bit

26:21

off putting. Some

26:23

people really enjoy it. Some people think it's

26:25

a little bit different. And this is what

26:27

I've gathered so far. I you

26:30

fold the school chair, I did not work on this movie. Just

26:33

hearing whispers. And I'm sure

26:35

as time goes on, there's going to be more information about

26:37

how they film these and how they put this together. But

26:39

this is what I've got so far. The

26:42

fight scenes were put together

26:44

in a relatively imaginative and

26:46

innovative way. Because

26:49

they wanted to have

26:52

punches land in a way that

26:54

they hadn't we haven't really seen

26:56

before in Hollywood movies. A

26:59

lot of films are experimenting with techniques

27:01

of the actors and stunt people actually

27:03

punching something that is not a face

27:06

that you can't hurt actually hurt a

27:08

face or a stomach. They're filming

27:11

these fight scenes in

27:13

multiple takes multiple

27:15

passes, one pass of

27:17

doing it the typical Hollywood way

27:20

of pulling the punches and proper

27:22

camera angles, so that nobody gets

27:24

hurt. And then another pass of

27:27

the aggressor punching

27:30

a foam piece of

27:33

prop so they can actually put

27:35

their full force and hit something

27:38

that is not an actor's face.

27:41

And then another pass of none of the

27:43

actors and then another pass of the actors,

27:46

the stunt people doing everything in slow

27:48

motion, and then all

27:50

of those passes being put in

27:53

compositing and digital compositing, put together

27:55

and picking the best little parts

27:57

of each section. Not

28:01

necessarily for every fight, not necessarily for every

28:03

punch, but some of the more elaborate shots

28:05

and sequences. This is how I understand it

28:07

was done. So these

28:09

are pretty elaborate, not only in

28:12

terms of on-site choreography, but in

28:14

terms of visual effects.

28:17

And it's a

28:19

little bit different. It's different to

28:21

look at it, and partially by

28:23

design. Also, to add

28:25

to that, the

28:28

camera work is

28:30

supposed to be in concert with the

28:32

punches. In a lot of action

28:35

scenes, it seems like the

28:37

best action scenes, you

28:39

want to stay wide, and you want to allow the

28:41

audience to absorb these fight scenes for what's happening right

28:44

in front of them. But

28:46

in this one, the camera work almost

28:48

seems to know what's

28:50

going to happen next, and is following

28:52

in more in sync with the punches

28:54

and with the flow of the action

28:56

scenes, which can be a little bit

28:58

off-putting. The closest I can come to

29:00

a comparison is that wonderful movie Upgrade from

29:03

a few years back, where

29:05

the camera knew exactly what the main

29:08

character was going to do in terms of its

29:10

physicality, and that was part of the point of

29:12

those scenes. So

29:16

there's a lot of reasons. I'm sure we'll learn more, but

29:19

there's definitely an innovative approach

29:22

to these fight scenes. That's all I've got

29:24

right now. We'll return live if we get any more

29:26

information. Todd Vizzieri, Flophouse Hollywood

29:28

Correspondent signing off. Now back to

29:30

the peaches in the studio. Thank

29:34

you, Todd, our special correspondent. And

29:36

thank you genuinely for taking the

29:39

time to answer our questions. So

29:41

I think that kind of helps,

29:43

because this first action sequence is

29:45

shot in a way that felt

29:47

a little bit jarring. Again, not

29:49

necessarily bad, just like I didn't

29:51

quite know what was going on.

29:54

And especially for a movie that up

29:56

to this point has had a kind

29:58

of...it's not realistic. because the Dalton

30:00

character is a cartoon character in a lot

30:03

of ways. But it feels very low level

30:05

and grounded for the most part. And then

30:07

once the fights start up, they feel like

30:09

superhero fights. I do love that you call

30:11

Dalton a cartoon character because pretty soon, like

30:14

genuinely, an actual Tasmanian devil

30:16

shows up and joins the movie. Pretty

30:19

much, yeah. But I liked a lot of

30:21

these fight scenes, but it is jarring at

30:23

first that it feels so different from what

30:26

I'm used to seeing from fight scenes in

30:28

general, but also from what I expected from

30:30

the movie so far. Knowing that they

30:32

did a remake of Roadhouse, knowing the way that movies

30:34

are often remade, I was like, okay, this is probably

30:37

going to be like a grittier, like more realistic take

30:39

on this kind of goofy movie. And then to know

30:41

as the movie went on that the movie was like,

30:43

no, no, this is going to be a silly

30:46

movie in a lot of ways. Like this movie is

30:48

going to get bonkers. I was like, okay, these fight

30:50

scenes were until I realized that

30:52

the fight scenes felt kind of not

30:55

above he's. But once I knew that, I was like,

30:57

okay. I can't decide whether it makes me feel old

31:00

or young that I didn't really

31:02

notice. Like I didn't have the

31:04

same like cognitive dissonance that Stewart

31:06

had where like either my brain is so

31:09

young that I've gotten used to like new

31:11

digital filmmaking and I don't know. No wrinkles

31:13

smooth like a baby's brain. Smooth as shit.

31:16

Or it's, or I'm, you know,

31:18

becoming an old person who doesn't notice when motion

31:20

smoothing is on the television or whatever. I guess

31:22

we're going to have to come and check your

31:24

TV to find out for sure. Well, and also

31:26

this action sequence, I think has helped because it

31:28

is like, it's a little funny. I

31:31

think adding they added some comedy actors like

31:33

Jessica Williams, but also one of the gang

31:35

members played by, is it Arturo Castro? Yes.

31:37

Who's really funny and they let him out

31:39

from Broadway city. You might remember him. Yeah,

31:41

he's really good. He does a lot of

31:43

funny stuff. And like Billy Magnussen

31:45

shows up later as a bad guy and

31:47

he's he's just a solid like punchable face,

31:50

goofy bad guy. Billy Magnussen is such a

31:52

he's he's he's a great hateful bad guy.

31:54

Yeah, hateable bad guy. Yeah. But

31:56

so he beats up these guys,

32:00

you know, break some bones, whatnot. Uh, but

32:02

he is so nice. He drives them to

32:04

the hospital while Elliot's favorite song, Kokomo plays

32:06

on the radio. You better believe I did

32:08

not enjoy that. Didn't like it. Uh, so

32:12

in the hospital, I'll take thousands of blind

32:14

songs before I'll listen to one. Oh, wow.

32:18

Uh, what a horrible, how did you ever get that real that

32:21

I sent you to work? No, I didn't. It

32:25

was just a dumb thing I made where like I had been watching,

32:27

uh, night, night and

32:29

the city, uh, the Jules Dassen

32:31

movie. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, and

32:34

uh, where the guy goes, let

32:36

me take you somewhere from Bermuda,

32:38

Jamaica. And I, and I matched

32:41

it up with, Ooh, I want to take it. I'm going

32:43

to have to see if I can get to work the

32:45

length of your semi. Yeah. Yeah. But I've been doing that.

32:47

I've been annoying my kids with doing a Kokomo version of

32:49

strawberry fields. Won't

32:52

you take me down

32:54

to Kokomo? Bermuda

32:57

Bahamas. Come

32:59

on pretty mama. We'll

33:02

get there fast and take it slow. Flophouse.

33:05

Masher power. Um, anyway,

33:08

at the hospital, he is a braided

33:11

by an attractive doctor, Ellie

33:14

for bringing in all these people he

33:16

beat up. And she's played by a

33:18

Daniella Milkyor who is rat

33:20

catcher two in the suicide squad. Uh,

33:22

an actress who is Portuguese

33:25

in real life, but since this is the keys,

33:27

I assume that they're, she's playing Cuban, uh, probably

33:30

unclear. It's unclear, but they don't really get

33:32

into it. Yeah. Uh, even though she is

33:35

angry, uh, she is

33:37

disarmed by Dalton's then politeness.

33:40

And so she properly treats

33:42

his wounds so he doesn't get sepsis.

33:44

Yeah. Yeah. And uh, so

33:46

very handsome. Yeah.

33:48

There's a lot of scenes in here. He's a movie

33:50

star. Yeah. Now we're not

33:53

a lot happens, uh, uh, back

33:55

at the road house. There's

33:58

that conversation about the. the

34:00

title Roadhouse. Frankie

34:02

lets him stay on her old houseboat

34:04

that she has. Which is called the

34:07

boat. Yeah, another

34:09

hilarious joke, courtesy of that

34:11

character's dad. And

34:15

on the houseboat, we get the first taste of his backstory.

34:17

He has a dream of the past when he was apparently

34:19

a big UFC fighter. There's

34:23

some bonding. Which they

34:25

shoot these like flashbacks you see the

34:29

fighting, UFC, what am I thinking? All

34:33

the UFC stuff was actually shot at

34:35

like an actual UFC event. So you

34:37

have like a huge crowd and it

34:39

only makes the crowds at the Roadhouse

34:41

seem smaller by comparison. But I think

34:43

that's not necessarily against their wishes. They

34:46

wanna show that he's come down in

34:48

the world and his personality in those

34:50

flashbacks is he's not the patient sensitive

34:53

young man or not young man. That

34:55

he is now as we see him, we're

34:57

like, wait a minute, this isn't the Dalton

34:59

I've come to love over the last

35:01

30 minutes or so. This is some kind

35:04

of animalistic bruise or a gauche, rude, crude,

35:06

with lots of toothed. How can you go

35:08

from that to this? I guess we'll have

35:10

to find out. I hope we don't encounter

35:12

a more extreme version of

35:14

that character later in the movie. Oh,

35:16

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, okay. A

35:19

literalization of his worst fears of himself,

35:21

okay. Yeah, yeah. So around this time,

35:23

we're introduced to our bad guy. He's

35:25

out on his yacht and on choppy

35:27

seas. He's getting a straight razor shave.

35:30

This is such a great movie shorthand for

35:32

this guy is dumb. The

35:35

boat is rocking and he keeps, and he's getting

35:38

a straight razor shave and he keeps getting cut.

35:40

And he's not allowing himself to get mad at

35:42

the barber. He's getting mad at the

35:44

captain of the boat, which is the captain can't

35:46

control the sea. He's not Poseidon, come on. And

35:49

we'll, yeah, we'll later, yeah, we do find out

35:51

that the captain is not Poseidon later. We'll

35:54

later see that. Percy Jackson shows

35:56

up in the book later, yeah. In the movie,

35:58

yeah. You're not Poseidon. Yeah, and

36:01

there's a there's a

36:03

moment later where we see that on this yacht

36:05

He also has a scale model of the resort

36:08

He wants to build including a scale

36:10

model of the Roadhouse that he wants to

36:12

destroy Drop

36:15

a weight on it like in So

36:21

our bad guy our evil land developer characters played by

36:23

Billy Magnuson, I think he does an okay job here

36:26

I think he's like kind of a you know, like

36:28

a dumb like a hateable guy Yeah He's

36:30

not but the thing is of course the

36:33

original Roadhouse has been gazara who gives like

36:35

such an incredible performance there's this moment where

36:38

Patrick Swayze is doing his like Tai

36:40

Chi out by a river wearing just

36:42

like grace with pants and Ben

36:45

gazara pulls up on a four-wheeler across the

36:47

river wearing little riding gloves It's like sits

36:49

and watches his enemy. It's so fucking funny

36:51

Yeah Kind of makes me wish for a

36:54

world where they kind of had a similar

36:56

type of character in mind that they got

36:58

like Paul Giamatti to do it. I think

37:00

that's it one of the things that I

37:03

really like Billy Magnuson's performance here because he's

37:05

playing like a comedy Villain, he's

37:08

like a Nepo villain. His dad was the

37:10

real villain and now he's inherited Jail

37:13

and exactly he's that Nepo villain is a great

37:15

way to put it and now he's he is fucking up

37:17

his dad's Business, but it

37:19

means that there's a lot of Lee. Yeah, there's

37:21

not a lot of Dramatic

37:23

tension because he's such a screw-up

37:26

that you know that he has no chance against all

37:28

young especially later when they're fighting Fist

37:30

to fist and it's like come on. Why we're wasting our

37:32

time with this to get to the other guy Whereas Ben

37:34

gazara was an older gentleman by the time the old Roadhouse,

37:36

but crazy person

37:39

like There's something

37:41

genuinely threatening about him even though that

37:43

is also a silly movie, you know,

37:45

yeah Well, anyway our villain Brandt

37:48

is his name He's

37:50

getting a report from his goons

37:52

who were beat up. Apparently they weren't

37:54

just random assholes They were

37:56

specifically targeting the Roadhouse for reasons as

37:59

yet. I've explained But as alluded to

38:01

it's a land development I was I was

38:03

kind of disappointed because everyone is so missed so

38:06

Close-lipped about what's going on with the

38:08

Roadhouse that I was like is there

38:10

pirate gold buried there? Like what what

38:13

is the secret? The land development thing

38:15

is the most obvious it should have

38:17

been pirate gold and they're like we

38:19

need to return this pirate gold Back

38:21

to these haunted treasure chests are yeah

38:23

ghost pirates won't stop bothering. Yes, and

38:25

Adrian Barbot is very exactly I love

38:28

it. These ghost pirates are messing with my radio

38:30

broadcast It doesn't

38:33

really make sense the arena which like Jessica

38:35

Williams characters cagey about it. That doesn't work.

38:37

No, she's like, okay I'll tell you the

38:39

truth, but there's it doesn't she might have

38:41

just said that I guess I guess she's

38:43

hidden the fact from him That this is

38:45

an organized effort, you know, yeah, isn't just route

38:47

regular old routiness But on the other hand the

38:49

fog doesn't make that much sense either now that

38:51

we're talking about those So maybe we

38:54

don't need movie make sense these days, huh? You

38:56

know what Dan I've got this movie you might like it's called stop

38:58

making I'm

39:01

not familiar back at the Roadhouse Dalton

39:04

his building his bouncer army. He

39:08

Encourages one of the workers there Billy

39:11

To just punch a guy when he pulls a knife on

39:13

him, which is showing a lot of faith in Billy that

39:15

he's not gonna gauge

39:17

Lucas gauge Yeah,

39:24

yeah, and there's another guy

39:26

who used to be a boxer who gets in to Meanwhile

39:30

bikers lurk ominously outside

39:34

The next morning Dalton's eating some cock the

39:36

official food of the Florida Keys Shot

39:42

this in the Dominican Republic they really he should

39:44

have been Good

39:46

it is a good job though of of

39:48

Dominican Republic for the keys. Well, it looks

39:50

like the keys. Yes, that's true He

39:53

sees Ellie the doctor again, and

39:55

he speaks for the audience when he asked her at

39:57

one point Why is everyone right here so aggressive? It

40:01

made me think like there's

40:03

a, I would love to see kind of like a

40:05

science fictional version of this where someone has built a

40:07

roadhouse on a place where there's some kind of natural

40:10

radiation that makes people angry. And then they're drinking and

40:12

it makes it even worse. And so it's like, why

40:14

don't we just move the business? Like we can't. We

40:17

have to have it here, you know? There's a part

40:20

of me that wishes they just took two seconds

40:22

to be like, yeah, so we have a small

40:24

town vibe here, but on the weekends it gets

40:26

crazy because there's all these partiers from the next

40:28

day. Just

40:31

make some effort to explain why they

40:34

have it both ways in that it's a small

40:36

town, but also like a crazy hellscape. And not

40:38

just a small town. It's like an adorable boutique

40:41

small town. Like they have a bookstore, which is

40:43

not something you have in many

40:45

small towns. There's probably shop

40:48

shops where you can buy regular stuff just

40:50

marked way up. Yeah. And

40:53

so to have it, to have it both ways

40:55

where it's like, this is Tulum, but it's also

40:57

Robo Cops Detroit. Like it's a hard, hard balance.

41:00

Oh man, everybody fucked up on Nuke. So,

41:05

you know, we have that sublime that Stewart mentioned before.

41:08

I'm glad that's in the name. There's a different band

41:10

every single time we're at the road house. There's always

41:12

a different band and so many of their songs are

41:14

about drinking. And at a certain point I was like,

41:16

is it, I know it's a bar. Do

41:19

they have to sing just songs about whiskey? Like I

41:21

don't understand. And I do like the

41:23

commitment to the Roadhouse bit where that no matter how

41:25

much violence is going on, that band is still fucking

41:27

plush. They never stop. There's a big fight where the

41:29

Roadhouse clears out and then it cuts to a shot

41:32

of the band still playing to an empty Roadhouse. And

41:34

I like that a lot. I

41:36

mean, and the bands are, it's not all my

41:38

type music, but they're good bands, you know. Yeah. That

41:41

was the band that had like the old guy just shaking like

41:43

maracas or something the whole time. Yeah, the whole time. You

41:46

see that guy on the maracas, you know you're

41:48

going to die in the pit. He's dressed up

41:50

like one of the Winter Brothers, not Edgar

41:52

Winter, but the villain Winter Brothers

41:55

from the Jonah Hexnall comic books. Just

41:57

an old man with a... white

42:00

beard with a dress as an evil cowboy.

42:03

Uh, anyway, Dalton's walking home and

42:06

he gets run off the road, run off the

42:08

road into the water by a truck in a

42:10

scene that this one was

42:12

very digital looking, but it also terrified me. Like

42:16

it was a scary scene, but like, I

42:18

get the truck backed into it. Like he had to like

42:20

leap into the bed of the truck at one point

42:22

and then he's like off

42:24

the side of the bridge and the truck

42:26

comes falling down. I'm like, it, I, I'd

42:28

suffered for me a little bit because it

42:30

was so deejilish, but I also, it was

42:32

scary. They didn't like, well, you can't out fight a truck.

42:35

You're not going to be able to break the bones

42:37

or hit the pressure points of the truck. Yeah, that's

42:39

true. Yeah. There's a, there's a,

42:41

there's a digital stunt later that was

42:43

similarly like wild that I had to

42:45

rewind and watch a couple of times.

42:47

Yeah. Yeah. This is

42:50

a, yeah, this was, I think

42:52

they were going for intensity and I

42:54

think it works. Yeah. I think

42:56

a couple of moments like this that where it does feel

42:58

like the movie suddenly jumps up in intensity in a way

43:00

that it didn't quite work for

43:02

me the way that like barbarian will suddenly

43:04

get very intense in a suddenly, you know,

43:07

but you know, it's, it's fine. Yeah.

43:10

There's that weird part where Jake Gyllenhaal

43:12

counters the subhuman underground dweller and

43:14

he gets nursed by it. They're like, well

43:16

here at glass key, we got a problem

43:18

with Chud's a pretty maternal though.

43:20

So just let them nurse you and it'll be

43:22

okay. I mean, Jake

43:24

Gyllenhaal looks like he's half asleep. Most of these scenes. So

43:27

go on. Uh, well, I was

43:29

just back, back at the houseboat. There's another

43:31

goon waiting for a Dalton with

43:33

a gun is back up in case the

43:35

truck scheme didn't work. The same goon. Is

43:37

that the biker from? Yeah. Yep.

43:40

That was the main biker from the first fight.

43:42

Yes. He also was driving the

43:44

truck. Oh, okay. Yep. I

43:47

thought he was a backup goon. There were certain

43:49

points after, after this scene with this goon where

43:51

I cannot keep the goons straight, except for that

43:54

one guy who is the funny nice goon. Well,

43:56

you should watch the, you should listen to the goon show

43:58

and that'll explain all of Yeah,

44:02

which is taking you through the

44:04

remake of Roadhouse goon by goon Yeah,

44:06

I mean if you really want to if you really want

44:08

to keep it all straight Ellie just go into your Google

44:10

search bar and just hit gooning. Okay, and you'll probably Just

44:14

see what that is. Okay Remind

44:18

me of the movie at all. Did I miss this

44:20

part? Hold on. Well, maybe this part would jake jake.

44:22

I'll taking his shirt off Oh Damn

44:26

sorry. I got tossed back to me right when I needed

44:28

a burp Dalton disarms this man

44:31

Throws him into the water and he's

44:33

immediately eaten by a huge truck I

44:36

did mention earlier that there was a

44:38

crocodile. They set it up. Yeah, that's

44:40

a big old croc It's

44:43

a big one It does feel a little bit like

44:45

Dalton made a plan with the crocodile earlier in the

44:47

movie Scene I feel

44:49

like if this was strictly going for comedy He

44:51

would have tossed him overboard and he would have

44:54

landed directly in the crocs mouth, but that's okay.

44:56

It was the next closest thing Yeah,

44:59

next morning You

45:01

know, there's a police there police boats round

45:03

Jake sitting there He's talking to the dock master

45:06

who's like these goons are probably mixed up in

45:08

drugs, but nope, but he He

45:11

goes and looks at some maps with Charlie the

45:13

bookstore kid And it seems like this is not

45:15

like a place where they could get drugs.

45:18

I think that's what that scene was about Yes,

45:20

I think they bring all unnecessary

45:22

Yeah, it's very unnecessary for a theory about

45:24

the bad guys to be brought up and

45:26

then dismiss the scene later When again the

45:28

explanation that he just wants to build a

45:30

resort there is not interesting enough that it

45:32

needs to be hidden You know, yeah Outside

45:36

he disarms a goon, which is only important

45:38

because now they know that he's friends with

45:40

these these bookstore people Frankie

45:44

is really cagey about what's going on

45:46

at the Roadhouse again unnecessary and

45:49

now we are introduced To

45:51

a legitimately bad human being who should not

45:53

probably be casting things because he is a

45:56

litany of Assaults, his name

45:58

is Conor McGregor the actor His

46:00

character's name is Knox. We

46:03

introduced him. Yeah, he's basically Taz,

46:05

right? He's basically Lono from Hunter

46:07

Bullets. The character who, like, in

46:09

the comics starts looking like a normal person, but

46:11

by the end of the series, he's like some

46:13

kind of creepy werewolf man. He's like saber-tooth by

46:15

the end of that series. Yeah. That's

46:18

kind of great. So, Knox is

46:20

very much, I will say, the movie,

46:22

I got tired of this character, but

46:24

when he first comes up, leaving aside

46:26

the fact that Conor McGregor is most

46:28

likely a monster based on the

46:30

things that he's been accused and arrested for, I

46:33

thought they were doing a good job of creating

46:35

a character who is so, in

46:38

the world of this movie, is so strong

46:40

and tough that he just does whatever he

46:42

wants and is entirely id-driven. And he's literally,

46:44

it's very cartoonish that he literally is leaving

46:47

naked from the apartment of a woman

46:50

that he just, of a man

46:52

he just cuckolded with his wife and has no clothes

46:54

and just walks through the streets naked and then finds

46:56

the guy who has a shirt he likes and beats

46:58

him up and takes his shirt and just the idea

47:00

of someone who is so

47:02

dangerous because he so refuses to abide

47:05

by the rules of society and also

47:07

strong enough that he can get away with it for a little

47:09

bit. But you have to wonder, has no one ever tried

47:11

to shoot this man? Like, bullshit, bounce off him. I

47:13

can understand. Also, there's a bit of funny

47:15

filmmaking here where within one cut where we

47:17

sort of cut away to the other side

47:19

of the phone conversation, he's like, in the

47:21

first scene, he's admiring this man's clothes

47:24

and then the next shot, he's

47:26

walking away in the clothes and everything is in flames.

47:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This whole like street market that he

47:31

was at is in fire. The

47:33

idea of him, if he was, and this

47:36

guy, when he's not talking, when he

47:38

is just a physical presence, I

47:41

was really enjoying a lot of those scenes, but I don't,

47:43

whenever he talks, I'm like,

47:45

this guy is enjoying being bad in a

47:48

way that feels genuine rather than an actor

47:50

playing a character who enjoys being bad. Yeah,

47:52

because I mean, his ability to do like

47:54

a line read isn't good. No. And

47:57

as the movie goes on, they get it. him

48:00

more quips and the quips get, are, by

48:03

the, eventually you're like, can you just have it?

48:05

This, this should have been like a, like a,

48:07

maybe a mute character. No, obviously a guy like

48:09

this with a body that looks like a Dorito,

48:11

uh, that he, that he

48:14

like, Because it's a triangular shape you're saying?

48:16

Yeah, the triangular shape. Not because it's like

48:18

orange and kind of fried looking. Or

48:21

it got dust all over it. Yes, covered in dust.

48:23

But the thing, like there is something funny about a

48:25

character like this, who was like, I do whatever I

48:27

want whenever I want. And I'm like, I don't know,

48:30

to get a body like that, you have to have

48:32

extreme discipline. Yeah, that's true. Uh,

48:36

he's, he's entered the film because One of the things,

48:38

this is the least of, this is the least of

48:40

his, least of his crimes. I'm looking up, Conroy Greger's

48:42

with Peter right now and there's a, there's a subheading

48:44

under punching the Miami heat mascot. What? So

48:47

he was there. He was

48:49

there. That's why they had to film in the Dominican Republic.

48:52

Yeah. He was at the 2023 NBA finals,

48:54

I guess he was, he was

48:56

recording something to promote his pain relief

48:58

spray in a skit with the Miami

49:00

heats mascot, Bernie, and just

49:02

knocked out with a punch. The man

49:05

wearing the costume in an off

49:07

script punch. Why would he do that? Why would

49:09

you ever do that? Horrible. The crowd

49:11

and attendance booed McGregor for his action. Yeah,

49:13

I hope so. An

49:16

anger problem and Oh man, things are qualified. It

49:19

seems like he thought it would be funny to do that. That's

49:21

horrible. I mean, it sounds like a horrible person, but in

49:24

that first, but I will say in not knowing these things when

49:26

I first watched it in that first moment when

49:28

he's just introduced as a, as a ball

49:31

of destruction, you know, that he wants that rolls through

49:33

life. I was like, okay, this could go. I like

49:35

how they're setting this up. This character, you know, well,

49:38

he's being introduced because he is being called

49:40

by the dad

49:42

of the, the villain to clean

49:45

up his son's mess. Why

49:47

you would call this man to clean

49:49

up any mess who knows he is

49:51

better at punching. But if you're,

49:53

if you're worried about Jake, Jill

49:56

and hall Dalton interfering,

49:58

just shoot him from distance.

50:00

Don't bring in a loose

50:02

can. I don't know. That's why

50:05

you're like, uh, like, hey, Jason Voorhees, you want

50:07

to kill teenagers? Just blow up the house, dude.

50:09

You don't have to use a machete. Yeah, Dan,

50:11

it's not a plot hole of calling him a

50:13

psychology, but it is like

50:16

in the gray man. It is like in the gray man

50:18

where they're like, we need to take care of this rogue

50:20

agent and we need it to be quiet. And Chris Evans

50:22

is like, you got it. I will have a gun battle

50:25

in the center of a European city. And it's like, hold

50:27

on a second. What, why would you bring

50:29

this guy in? I will say this doing some more

50:31

research. Bernie, the Miami heat mascot, he doesn't

50:33

seem so innocent himself. Uh, in 1994 he

50:35

was sued by a woman that

50:39

who he basically, uh, uh, kind

50:41

of violently forced to be a part of

50:43

a bit during an exhibition game in Puerto

50:46

Rico. Now here's the thing about this entry.

50:48

He treats Bernie as if he is a

50:50

person and it always says Bernie was sued

50:52

and Bernie's hijinks. This Bernie is the

50:54

fictional character I have to assume. So I like,

50:57

I don't understand how the mascot is

50:59

legally legally liable for the actions of

51:01

the person wearing the costume. I also

51:03

more research on this. Yeah. It seems

51:05

like they would use the person's name

51:07

because whoever, you know, like the heat

51:09

like wouldn't want the mascot's name

51:11

associated. They want to make it clear. Like,

51:14

look, the mascot's cool. It was the guy who

51:16

was embodying the mascot at the time. That was

51:18

not so cool. So this, this first lawsuit was

51:20

in 1994 and it says Bernie's

51:22

hijinks also led to another lawsuit in March, 2015 and March,

51:24

2017. On both occasions, people

51:27

were injured by Bernie while he was performing. Again, Bernie

51:29

is not a person. Bernie, once you

51:31

take on the role of Bernie, you have to

51:33

legally change your name to Bernie. I guess that's

51:35

true. That's what happened to Jack Black when he

51:37

made the movie Bernie also. Yeah. I thought you

51:39

were saying that the character really inhabited, inhabits you.

51:42

It takes, you know, sort of an act of,

51:44

you're like, you're like playing the role of the joker

51:47

Jack Nicholson warned Heath Ledger. He said, don't get

51:49

into this joker role too, too much.

51:51

You know, that role, you know, it's

51:54

high risk, high reward. The risk is that you'd

51:56

fall into chaos and insanity. The word is an

51:58

Academy Award two at a time. three

52:00

times so yeah I wait

52:02

two out of four times I forgot about Caesar

52:04

Marrow in the original Batman movie did not win

52:06

an Academy well I he wasn't really eligible I

52:08

guess for the Batman movie yeah the Batman movie

52:10

yeah Batman 1966 you're correct

52:13

okay well anyway best picture so

52:16

what about uh what about Mark Hamill and Mask

52:18

of the Phantasm good point but

52:20

that's a way in that he does the voice

52:22

of the Joker in the movie no I know

52:24

but the Phantasm is like the main like bad

52:27

character I don't remember the movie that well mask of

52:29

the Phantasm the Phantasm

52:32

is not a bad guy the

52:34

Phantasm right technically a competing vigilante

52:36

that is trying to get revenge been a long time

52:39

I just didn't think that

52:41

there was much Joker content in that

52:43

one but Joker yeah yeah you gotta

52:45

put a note in the

52:47

video you know I know

52:49

you were you were distracted by the voice of Dana

52:51

Delaney as the character

52:53

who eventually spoiler is revealed as the Phantasm

52:55

but no that is yeah the Joker's in

52:58

there okay well we all

53:00

learned something today and to return

53:02

to the movie we were talking

53:04

about just briefly Ellie

53:09

shows up to take Dalton on

53:11

a boat ride they go hang out on a

53:13

sandbar and he gets weird

53:15

when she looks nice it looks like a nice place to have

53:17

a beer latitude yeah it

53:19

looks it looks like a real good beer commercial

53:21

yeah maybe crack open some land sharks drink

53:25

that shit down there but he gets

53:27

weird and cagey when she

53:29

starts asking questions about his past and he says

53:31

you're a nice person you don't want to know

53:34

me turns out she already does she googled him

53:36

she knows whatever his tragic past is that

53:38

we haven't seen yet and the tragic

53:40

past is left for us to kind

53:42

of piece those hints together well no we

53:44

get it we get at the end it's

53:47

not like he sits down and tells the whole story or

53:49

anything like that no no that's true we well we don't

53:51

know the answer

53:53

to the question that is posed to him

53:56

later like why he didn't back off but

53:58

anyway we don't get like a Phoebe Cates

54:00

talking about her dad in the chimney speech. Yeah,

54:02

oh, if only. It'd

54:04

have been great if they brought in Phoebe Cates just

54:06

to explain Dalton's backstory. Phoebe

54:10

Cates returning to acting for the role of UFC

54:12

fan who runs a blog or a podcast. It's

54:14

a UFC podcast. How many of them it would

54:16

be if at some point someone's listening to a

54:19

UFC fan podcast and you hear a woman's voice

54:21

and she's describing this thing and then the credits

54:23

you see UFC podcast host Phoebe Cates. You'd be

54:25

like, what, how did they get her? That's amazing.

54:29

Anyway, Mr. Gyllenhaal stunts by Kevin Kline.

54:31

Oh, they both worked on it. I

54:34

guess the marriage that works together. Yeah,

54:36

we're sure together. Sure. It

54:39

works together. Ellie and Dalton,

54:41

they smooch a bit. Meanwhile,

54:44

Knox has arrived in town. He

54:46

starts eating some sandwiches menacingly. Just

54:50

as Ellie, the only way to eat a sandwich

54:52

is menacingly. If your lunch meat, Ellie

54:54

returns Dalton to his houseboat and just

54:56

then the cops show up to ask

54:59

him some questions. They take him into

55:01

an abandoned dock

55:04

where the sheriff sort of threatens him and pulls a

55:06

gun on him, but Ellie shows up, flaps

55:09

the sheriff. Turns out, sheriff's her

55:11

dad. There's some backstory about how

55:13

he's corrupt and working for the bad guy. Like

55:15

we didn't put that together on our

55:17

own. That actor's been like in a lot of stuff, right?

55:19

Yeah, I can't remember his name, but he's

55:21

in like, he's like a drug dealer or something

55:23

all the time. Yeah, Joachim de Almeida. Al Reimuida

55:25

or Joachim. I don't know. He's

55:28

even another Portuguese American. They may be

55:30

playing Portuguese characters. There's something

55:32

about this sequence where I'm like, oh

55:35

yeah, like there's something actually threatening about

55:37

like, you know, how these

55:40

corrupt policemen can just like arrest him

55:42

and kill him and he can't do anything about it. Meanwhile,

55:46

Goons approached the bookstore with gasoline. We cut

55:48

away before we- Dan, did you know that

55:50

actor who plays the sheriff in this played

55:52

Sherlock Holmes? I didn't know

55:54

that. In 2001, he was in

55:56

a Brazilian comedy, Ozingo de Baker Street, at

55:59

least in America. as a samba Sherlock

56:02

a samba for sure like I gotta see this now

56:05

why can't sure I'll get a samba once in

56:07

a while you know it's a treat some fun

56:10

seems actress Sarah Bernhardt is performing

56:12

in Rio and she gets her friend Sherlock

56:14

Holmes to solve a case love

56:16

this all right that sounds fun back

56:19

at the road house take two please I would

56:21

I would

56:23

and Ben Brant's the bad guy finally

56:26

meet face-to-face the

56:28

bad guy asked him some pretty reasonable questions about

56:30

why he's willing to go up go through so

56:32

much shit for this road house and

56:34

some people he met like a week ago Brant pulls

56:38

out a YouTube video we finally see the

56:40

backstory what is fun and plays it it's

56:42

not like he like I think that I

56:44

think that's why I'm talking yeah important thing

56:46

I don't think anyone's mind

56:51

was blown just my phrasing right

56:53

there you can never

56:55

be cues too careful Dan okay

56:57

well put on like a VR headset on

57:00

Jake Gyllenhaal here relive the moment

57:03

anyway we we learn what we already

57:05

suspected that Dalton killed a

57:08

guy in the ring and brand new

57:10

end in the ring killed his friend well they think

57:12

yeah they say a friend yeah I assume in the

57:14

way that like fighters know

57:16

one another yeah maybe um

57:19

Grant needles him he's like why didn't you

57:21

stop punching he was down yellow like he

57:24

but Dalton will not answer and Brandt

57:27

leaves giving the goons full

57:29

permission to just you know burn

57:31

the place down take it over you know beat

57:33

everyone up whatever Knox comes

57:36

in there's a long time

57:38

of him just like whacking things

57:40

with a golf club before Dalton

57:42

does anything Dalton has been so

57:44

disheartened by you know seeing this video that

57:46

he's just sitting there with his coffee just

57:48

got a mirror held up to his soul

57:50

yeah like what he saw but I mean

57:52

like this is his one job is

57:54

to bounce people and they're really that's

57:56

true they're really you know causing a

57:58

lot of damage before he gets up from

58:01

the park. Maybe he's just entertained by Knox's witty

58:03

run one-liners when he takes to the golf club

58:05

and then hits things with it and he goes,

58:07

oh, it's been years since I went clubbing. And

58:10

it's like, ugh, like again, just don't give him

58:12

any dialogue. Just have him used the brakes. Anyway,

58:16

they have a brutal fight, which

58:18

ends essentially with Knox saying, we're not so

58:20

different, you and I, which

58:23

sends Dalton wandering into the

58:25

night. And

58:28

Frankie finds him at the houseboat where he's about to

58:30

pack up and leave. Yeah, he's like sitting on the

58:32

edge of a building, staring at his fist in the

58:34

rain. His

58:37

hair's grown super long. And

58:40

she's finally like, okay, maybe I should

58:42

have told you that Grant wants to buy

58:44

my land. I'm the only holdup for a

58:46

big resort. But like, if

58:48

I can just hold out a while, like

58:50

he's in deep with some money people. Like,

58:53

you know. Like I didn't tell you because

58:55

it was the most obvious answer and it

58:57

was boring. I figured you'd probably guess it

58:59

already. And she's

59:01

like, are you gonna leave because you're scared? And

59:03

he's like, yeah. I'm like,

59:05

I agree, get out of town, Dalton. But on

59:07

his way out of town, he

59:10

sees the smoldering ruins of the

59:12

bookstore. No. And he realized he's

59:14

not scared of what could happen to him. Oh,

59:17

no, no. What he could do to other

59:19

people. Yeah, that's right. Instead of getting on the bus. He

59:21

doesn't want to unleash the beast again. You wouldn't like me

59:23

when I'm angry and he turns green and

59:25

he goes to the house of the bad guys. Yeah.

59:28

And he says, yeah, I am afraid. I'm afraid of what

59:31

happens when someone pushes me too far. And he straight

59:33

up kills a guy. But he doesn't say it like that.

59:35

He says, yeah, I'm afraid. I'm afraid

59:37

of what happens when someone pushes me too far.

59:39

Like he says it in the kind of matter

59:41

of fact, kind of soft way he's saying everything.

59:43

I prefer that to him like, I don't know,

59:45

taking a being more dark and scared.

59:47

Someone going to grim mode. I do like it, but

59:49

there are times when, his actions really have to back

59:51

up those words because of the way that he delivers

59:53

it. It's

59:56

not one of those moments where I'm like, oh shit.

59:58

Oh no, they just unlocked Pandora's. Instead

1:00:00

I'm like, I think he's

1:00:02

hyping himself a little bit too much, but we'll

1:00:04

see. You want some new metal to start playing

1:00:06

in the background? Exactly, yeah. Although they do play

1:00:09

a lot of Anderson Man covers, so you should

1:00:11

like that shit. I did not. I

1:00:13

did. And I didn't care for it. I have

1:00:15

to say, I was... You didn't like get up

1:00:17

and start dancing around and then chill. No. That

1:00:20

would be cute. Kicking your heels. Maybe

1:00:23

it's... I'm wishful for the days when

1:00:25

Metallica was very careful about licensing their stuff to movies, and they

1:00:27

almost never did. But it might just

1:00:29

be because my kids constantly want to listen

1:00:31

to Enter Sandman these days. And so I'm

1:00:34

like, why couldn't they have played another Metallica

1:00:36

song? Why couldn't it have been disposable heroes?

1:00:38

Why couldn't it have been like Damage Incorporated?

1:00:40

Why couldn't it have been Unforgiven 2? Yeah,

1:00:44

yeah. Why isn't it

1:00:46

The Day That Never Comes? What are their later songs?

1:00:49

On Dalton's Way Out with

1:00:52

the Corpse, The Sweet Biker

1:00:54

that we mentioned before, Arturo

1:00:56

Castle. It's

1:00:58

like, hey man, I just like bikes.

1:01:00

It's hard to not have a... There's a...

1:01:03

When the goons are breaking up the bar

1:01:05

and he walks by Dalton and says, hey

1:01:07

Dalton. I love that moment. It's

1:01:10

funny. But I do like this one where he's

1:01:12

like, I just like bikes, maybe these are not

1:01:14

the right guys, and Dalton does not beat him

1:01:16

up because he's just sweet. And they don't tell

1:01:18

me anything. I don't know anything. Yeah, they don't

1:01:20

tell them anything except where he does know the

1:01:22

location of like one meat. So Dalton goes to

1:01:24

his place. One meat, what

1:01:26

is it? Pork? Beef? Yeah, he

1:01:28

knows one place that pork exists.

1:01:30

That's in a pig, Dan. That's

1:01:33

one place that exists in a

1:01:35

pig. That interruption was so tasty.

1:01:37

Elliot had a chomp of teeth

1:01:39

on it. To

1:01:41

borrow a phrase from your

1:01:43

son, Elliot, that joke was delish.

1:01:50

He goes to the meeting site. He intercepts a crooked

1:01:53

cop. Whoa, I mean

1:01:55

they're all a little crooked, right? Right?

1:01:57

Right, Dan? A little bit. Like

1:02:00

an allen key? No, sorry. Exactly.

1:02:03

A crooked cup. Do you have any condoms

1:02:05

with right angles in them? Yeah, yeah. That's

1:02:07

like asking where you get those hats

1:02:09

that have the bill on the back. Yeah.

1:02:13

It's been a long year. Dan, it's April.

1:02:17

What? There's a, there's

1:02:19

a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's a, there's

1:02:21

a, there's a money drop off. He beats up the

1:02:24

cop, he shoots the corpse several times. The

1:02:26

cops done and, uh, you know, takes

1:02:28

the money back at the houseboat. Dalton

1:02:32

is peacefully taping together some dynamite when

1:02:34

the sheriff arrives to say that he

1:02:37

has been kidnapped because they want this money back. I

1:02:40

do like to see that. I mean, I

1:02:42

think it's a good idea to have a good time. I

1:02:45

think it's a good idea to have a good time. Uh,

1:02:48

because they want this money back. I

1:02:51

do like this scene because the sheriff's like,

1:02:54

he, he has such a sinister

1:02:56

quality about him that like,

1:02:58

when he's explaining what's happening to him and

1:03:00

he's like, my daughter's been kidnapped and they're

1:03:02

going to kill her. And I'm like, I

1:03:04

don't believe this in any way. Not what

1:03:06

I'm talking about. This is the least believe.

1:03:08

And like, Dalton's like, Oh yeah. Okay. It's

1:03:10

clear that Dalton does not believe it either.

1:03:12

I love how they are going through the

1:03:14

motions of a ruse that neither one of

1:03:16

them thinks is really there. It's

1:03:19

funny because the first thing that happens,

1:03:21

you know, Dalton steals another cop's motorboat

1:03:23

to go out to the bad guy's yacht. The

1:03:25

one Ellie took him out on earlier in the year

1:03:28

and sees the, he sees the sheriff there on

1:03:30

the boat immediately. And

1:03:33

he's, and he's like, and the sheriff says

1:03:35

something like it's a fake kidnapping dumbass, which

1:03:38

seems like weird because Dalton

1:03:40

had already been like, Oh,

1:03:43

you seem pretty comfortable for a guy whose

1:03:45

like daughter has been kidnapped. Like it's clear

1:03:47

that Dalton never believed it, but the

1:03:49

sheriff still makes fun of him for falling for

1:03:52

it. If that had been a little

1:03:54

bit more pointed, I think that would have been very funny

1:03:56

if it was that the moment the bad

1:03:58

guy thinking that the good guy. guy has fallen

1:04:00

for a trap and not recognizing that the good

1:04:02

guy clearly knows what's going on. You know, Yeah,

1:04:05

but it actually turns out that Brent did

1:04:07

kidnap Ellie as a joke

1:04:10

on the sheriff. Yeah. Yeah. So Dalton

1:04:12

blows up his motorboat to set, uh,

1:04:14

to, uh, just distract everyone. He

1:04:17

rampages through the sinking yacht to rescue Ellie.

1:04:19

Everyone's fist fighting him a water now, which

1:04:21

is pretty funny. While not Knox is showing

1:04:23

up, right? Knocks shows up. He runs Dalton

1:04:25

over with a speed boat, but

1:04:28

Dalton or tries to, but Dalton

1:04:30

climbs on board. Uh, and,

1:04:32

uh, living up to his name, Knox

1:04:34

gets knocked into the water and

1:04:37

dragged the boat for a while. That's

1:04:39

true. You have a lot of hard

1:04:41

knocks. Yeah. Ellie, Ellie gets kidnapped by

1:04:43

Brant. Uh, Dalton is one of

1:04:45

those moments like at the end of speed

1:04:48

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1:04:50

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1:04:52

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1:04:54

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1:05:05

guy takes the romantic interest with him when

1:05:07

he's escaping and it's like, well, if you

1:05:09

didn't do that, you'd probably get

1:05:11

away. Like the good guy would have less reason

1:05:13

to go after you. I don't know why you're doing this,

1:05:16

why you're taking, what leverage it gives

1:05:18

you. Uh, but,

1:05:20

uh, also dumb as we've, yeah,

1:05:22

yeah. Maybe he just wants a friend. Maybe

1:05:24

he's not totally comfortable behind the wheel of

1:05:27

a speedboat. That's true. But Dalton,

1:05:29

because I've been drinking, so I need you with me.

1:05:31

Dalton collides his boat into the one

1:05:33

that has Brant and Ellie in a

1:05:36

way that throws him into their boat

1:05:38

with like physics. I didn't really understand.

1:05:40

It was wild. Like I had to

1:05:42

rewind the movie. There's

1:05:44

a couple of moments starting here where the

1:05:47

physics do go out the window. And yeah,

1:05:49

it's like, it's like that part and inception

1:05:51

where the fucking hotel room's flipping around. Yeah.

1:05:54

Uh, there's a fight on the boat as

1:05:57

it goes to shore and Dalton and Ellie jump off

1:05:59

in time. Brant, however, is

1:06:01

set flying through the air onto the

1:06:03

roof of the roadhouse. He's somehow still

1:06:05

alive. I guess cause it's got a

1:06:07

thatched roof. Who knows? Yeah. Meanwhile, Knox

1:06:10

has climbed ashore and stolen a truck,

1:06:12

which he crashes through the road. There's

1:06:15

another big punch fight that ends with a

1:06:18

Knox stabbing Dalton in the gut. And Brant

1:06:20

is like, kill him, kill him. And Knox

1:06:23

has had enough of this gibber jabber. It's that's

1:06:25

Brent's neck. I think this is where we

1:06:27

now in the background, we get a little bit

1:06:30

of inner Sandman riffing and you're like, Oh,

1:06:32

you just, uh, you just hit Jake Gyllenhaal's funny

1:06:34

button. He's about to start killing. The Sandman

1:06:36

is about to enter. There is, we, uh, there

1:06:38

was a moment where Brant tries to kill

1:06:40

Jake Gyllenhaal with a harpoon gun and

1:06:44

Dalton goes a fishing spear. Like he's insulted

1:06:46

that that's how we tried to kill him.

1:06:48

And it's another those moments where he picks

1:06:50

up on a little detail that is not

1:06:52

that important. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty funny. Uh,

1:06:54

yeah. But, uh, Knox killing Brant,

1:06:56

you know, just enough time for

1:06:58

Dalton to activate his rage power.

1:07:00

And he stabs Knox several

1:07:02

times stopping short

1:07:05

of finishing him really because

1:07:07

he doesn't want to be an animal, but it

1:07:09

is enough to scare Ellie,

1:07:12

uh, who has arrived. She, she, she has a

1:07:14

look in her eyes being like, maybe this is

1:07:16

not a longterm commitment for me. Yeah. Um, I

1:07:18

was kind of hoping she was going to show

1:07:20

him and be like, finish him. And then he

1:07:22

would do one of those cool fatalities where he

1:07:24

pulled his neck out and all the spines, like

1:07:27

maybe freeze them and like, uh, punches them in

1:07:29

his whole body. Shatters just leaving like a skeleton

1:07:31

and like a beating heart. What if she said

1:07:33

friendship and now he's got to give Knox a

1:07:36

present? Yeah. More like a

1:07:38

babality and turns Knox into a baby.

1:07:40

Yeah. I mean, what do you

1:07:42

think? Yeah. I mean, it's, I

1:07:44

mean, it's tough cause you're not, I don't think you're

1:07:46

able to do a babality if you've used any blocking

1:07:48

during the fight and I'm pretty sure he blocked. So

1:07:51

yeah, he's going to block the different points. Yeah, man.

1:07:53

It's going to have to be a fatality. Yeah. And

1:07:55

then after the fatality, once the, once he kills him,

1:07:57

then she's like, Oh no, this is the game that

1:07:59

Freddy's in. and Freddy shows up and the

1:08:01

predator or adult's gonna fight them off. Cool,

1:08:03

cool, yeah, yeah, Anna Xenomorph. Yeah. We're

1:08:06

so close to Anna. The sheriff shows up. Rambo

1:08:08

shows up, he's got, because he's in that game

1:08:10

too, right? Oh yeah, I think so, yeah. The

1:08:12

sheriff arrives. Bobo. Presumably

1:08:15

because he's grateful to Dalton,

1:08:18

he feels like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have been in bed

1:08:20

with someone who kidnapped my daughter. He's like, I'll cover up

1:08:22

all this murdering for you. Get out of town. It's gonna

1:08:24

be hard to do. That he's like, we'll take care of

1:08:27

it. And it's like, there's so many bodies, the road has

1:08:29

destroyed, both blew up. It would be pretty great if he

1:08:31

was like, we're gonna take care of it. And he starts

1:08:33

like tucking in a little bib into his shirt. And you're

1:08:35

like, what the fuck are you doing, dude? We're gonna take

1:08:37

care of his bones and all. Ah.

1:08:42

So, we'll take care of this. And then the next

1:08:44

shot is him putting up a wanted poster for Dalton.

1:08:49

Here we are, Coda, Jessica

1:08:51

Williams, and her team

1:08:54

clean up the road house. Dalton

1:08:56

waits for his bus. Charlie,

1:08:58

the team from the bookstore is out of the

1:09:00

hospital. She says goodbye with one final reference to

1:09:02

how this is like a Western. She wants him

1:09:05

to stay, but he's gotta leave.

1:09:07

But he's left behind a gift for them.

1:09:09

All the dirty money he stole. Dalton

1:09:12

rides off. And he left a gift. Yeah. Like

1:09:15

a little kitten rolling around. No,

1:09:18

a gift. It's a guy eating popcorn

1:09:20

and then sunglasses go blowed down. Oh,

1:09:23

wow. Dalton rides off to another

1:09:25

town with a punch and stab other people. And

1:09:28

we get a mid-credits sequence.

1:09:31

Stewart, did you see him? Yeah, I did see

1:09:33

him. Okay. Knox escapes the hospital.

1:09:37

You know, nurses behind him.

1:09:39

He's like, get that man. And he walks off

1:09:41

with a bare butt. Like we were first introduced

1:09:44

to him. He entered the world naked and now

1:09:46

he leaves the world somewhat naked. Yeah. The

1:09:48

world of the film. That's Roadhouse,

1:09:51

the new version. Time

1:09:54

for some final judgment. Yeah. I

1:09:56

have some final judgments on this. Whether this was a good,

1:09:58

bad movie, a bad, bad movie. bad movie or

1:10:01

a movie we kind of liked. I'm going

1:10:03

to give it a just, just a

1:10:05

hair, just a hair of a margin of a movie.

1:10:07

I kind of liked, I think

1:10:09

I would be, I don't, I

1:10:11

don't want to be like too

1:10:15

hung up on this, but I probably would

1:10:17

be a little more apt to just give it

1:10:19

a recommendation if they didn't, uh, have

1:10:22

like a guy in an employee who

1:10:24

like clearly should not have a support

1:10:26

system propping him up and giving him

1:10:29

jobs and big movies, but, uh, but

1:10:32

for what it is, it's possible. They didn't

1:10:34

know he's only had accusations against him since,

1:10:37

uh, let's see, uh, 2017. Yeah.

1:10:43

It's only seven years, at least

1:10:45

of multiple incidents.

1:10:47

But you know, for, for what it is,

1:10:49

it's, well, I mean, he's just such a

1:10:51

good actor. Dan, you

1:10:55

know what about, you know what, how I feel about this movie in

1:10:57

a weird way. It suffers for

1:10:59

being, from being too professional. Like

1:11:03

just like how not

1:11:05

like the original road house

1:11:07

is not made professionally. It's actually kind of

1:11:09

beautifully made for what it is, but like

1:11:12

there's a ram shank shackle,

1:11:14

like lungheadedness to it. Uh,

1:11:17

whereas this movie is like a

1:11:19

lot of resources put behind it and people

1:11:21

are all constantly trying to sort of explain

1:11:24

why, no, really this plot makes sense. You

1:11:27

know, you shouldn't worry about that in road house, but it,

1:11:30

it's, it's not, you know,

1:11:32

it kind of does what it needs to do. It's like, if

1:11:34

like Wes Anderson did the tango and cash remake. Uh,

1:11:37

I guess I'll agree with that. I mean, I

1:11:39

want to see that. Yeah. Uh,

1:11:41

what do you think, Stuart? Uh, yeah,

1:11:43

I think I'm, I'm with you. It's a,

1:11:45

I feel like I enjoyed the movie. Uh,

1:11:49

there's, yeah, I mean,

1:11:51

obviously the, uh, the, the comments

1:11:54

about the, the selection of

1:11:56

villain actor, uh,

1:11:58

are accurate. Seems like

1:12:00

a bad guy. I don't want to support him

1:12:02

But I do think it's like it's funny and

1:12:05

weird and it has some jokes and

1:12:07

it doesn't take itself too seriously I

1:12:10

wish it kind of didn't try

1:12:12

and make as many ironic jokes as if they

1:12:14

did But you know all's

1:12:16

fun and the action sequences are if

1:12:18

anything interesting So yeah Movie

1:12:21

I kind of liked yeah, I'm also gonna call

1:12:23

this a movie. I kind of liked going into

1:12:26

it again Not knowing anything about the the the

1:12:28

main villains personal life

1:12:30

or actual villainy I

1:12:33

went in I went into it being like why

1:12:35

would they bother remaking Roadhouse like what's the

1:12:38

point and It felt to

1:12:40

me the whole time just kind of like a

1:12:42

solid laid-back Action

1:12:44

character movie, you know, it's a little too long, you

1:12:46

know, it's it's a hair over two hours if you

1:12:49

can move the credits I guess yeah, and there were

1:12:51

there are times when it when I was like I

1:12:53

kind of wish this was a TV show So I

1:12:55

could watch like an hour of it and then go

1:12:57

away and then when because it also it's so laid

1:12:59

back at times But it feels like you're watching a

1:13:02

padded out hour-long show And

1:13:05

then once the action really gets rip-roaring

1:13:07

you're like what like this is never

1:13:09

mind This could never be a TV

1:13:11

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1:13:13

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1:13:15

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1:13:17

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1:13:19

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1:13:22

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Okay. Uh, starring Sean Connery,

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boy. But they finally get it in their

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mouth. Yeah, yeah. It's because they have that

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New York style speaking, right? Where you use

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your hands a lot. I

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mean, I better believe it. Yeah. Audrey

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talks with her hands a lot. We

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have a lot more red wine around the house.

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we'll see. I'll keep you updated. Yeah, keep it.

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He's a great guy. All right, back to the show.

1:25:09

Let us move along into

1:25:13

the section that we call

1:25:15

Letters from Listeners. Listeners like

1:25:17

you, the listeners. This

1:25:20

first one is from- I mean, you

1:25:22

covered all of these, yeah, sure. Yeah, I

1:25:24

mean, you know, it's a sort of circular

1:25:26

not litters from listeners. No,

1:25:28

no, no, we don't want any litter from

1:25:30

listeners or from more on earth. This

1:25:35

one is from John, and it

1:25:37

says- From Cincinnati?

1:25:40

Yeah, that's the one. I

1:25:43

was just listening to your Sonic 2

1:25:45

episode, and when Dan recommended Butcher Baker

1:25:47

Nightmare Maker, he mentioned how

1:25:49

the flightness of the direction ended up being a plus

1:25:51

to the film. I'm always fascinated

1:25:53

when elements of a film stand out unintentionally

1:25:55

but actually help the film. The

1:25:58

first time this really struck me was with the- movie

1:26:00

Equinox, which is especially cheap and flat

1:26:02

in the early scenes, right up until

1:26:04

the hero is fined

1:26:06

an ancient evil book, the prop

1:26:09

of which clearly received much more loving

1:26:11

attention than anything else thus far, and

1:26:14

so stuck out. What could

1:26:16

have been a jarring reminder of how cheap everything else

1:26:18

looked served to actually bring

1:26:20

a level of creepiness to the affair

1:26:22

for me as if these bland heroes

1:26:24

had found something that truly didn't belong

1:26:26

in their universe. Are

1:26:28

there any favorite examples of elements of

1:26:30

movies that unintentionally stood out to you,

1:26:32

but serve to improve the experience for

1:26:34

you? Keep on flopping in the free

1:26:36

world, John. I

1:26:39

mean, go on, if you have one,

1:26:41

sorry. Yeah, I mean, I feel like part

1:26:43

of the appeal of a lot of like,

1:26:46

Yorgos Lanthamo stuff is the way that everybody

1:26:48

delivers their lines as if their brain had

1:26:50

been taken out of one body and put

1:26:52

into their body. I mean, it's likely in

1:26:54

that one movie. I think that's intentional though,

1:26:56

right? Like, I mean, he's directing the- I

1:26:58

guess you're right. I mean, I feel like,

1:27:00

I don't know, it's tough for me to

1:27:02

dictate intentionality on things, but

1:27:05

I would say an example, one of my favorite movies

1:27:07

from one of my favorite directors is The

1:27:10

Suspiria Remake by Luca Guadagino. And

1:27:13

in that movie, Tilda Swinton plays multiple

1:27:15

characters, including an old German man. And

1:27:18

when she walks around as an old German

1:27:20

man, she walks around a lot like when

1:27:22

you can see Kermit walking around full bodied

1:27:24

and he has like no weight. There's something

1:27:26

very strange about the whole thing. And

1:27:30

while I know for some viewers that the illusion

1:27:32

was complete, I mean, for me at no point

1:27:34

did I think that this was an actual old

1:27:36

man. And finding-

1:27:40

and with that information in hand, I don't think

1:27:42

it makes the movie less. I think it's such

1:27:44

an interesting, weird choice that it makes me like

1:27:46

the movie more in a way. So

1:27:50

I think that answers the question. They do something

1:27:52

very similar in the movie, The Old Dark House,

1:27:54

where they have a woman playing an ancient

1:27:56

old man. And it does create a kind of

1:27:58

like... you know, off-ness

1:28:00

strangeness about it that works for the

1:28:02

movie that makes it feel eerie. Yeah.

1:28:05

Yeah. The stuff that occurs to me is

1:28:07

not as specific as I would like,

1:28:10

but it's part of the reason why, you know,

1:28:12

I like low-budget movies

1:28:15

a lot of the time. If like

1:28:17

the effects look a little janky, there's

1:28:19

that be kind, rewind effect of like,

1:28:21

you're like, oh, they really try

1:28:23

it hard. You know, like you can see the effort

1:28:26

in a way that charms you in the way that

1:28:28

like a blockbuster movie that has

1:28:30

all the money in the world. You

1:28:32

are less forgiving of its failings. Like

1:28:35

instead I'm like, Oh, they all, you

1:28:37

know, wanted to put on a show and they

1:28:39

did it. And similarly, like kind of

1:28:41

in a similar vein, I enjoy

1:28:44

how a bunch of, uh, regional

1:28:47

horror in particular kind of serves as

1:28:49

a documentary of,

1:28:52

you know, the people in those areas, because like

1:28:54

as a low budget movie

1:28:56

being made in areas where movies

1:28:59

aren't typically made, you're seeing something

1:29:02

different than like a Hollywood film. You're seeing houses

1:29:05

that are actually real a lot of the time

1:29:07

and how people live. Like there's a film,

1:29:10

uh, fiend by Don

1:29:12

Dalner that I saw, uh, because

1:29:14

it was like a bad movie night pick of some

1:29:17

friends and it's just sort of shot in

1:29:19

this, called the sack

1:29:21

of a housing development. And you

1:29:23

know, I think the early eighties and I'm like, yeah, I

1:29:25

just want to see what this is like. Take

1:29:29

me back there. Yeah. Look me in their

1:29:31

houses. Show me their food products and board

1:29:34

games. Exactly. Uh,

1:29:37

this is, I don't know if this exactly is the same thing

1:29:39

in along the same lines, but something

1:29:41

struck me when I was thinking about this question is

1:29:44

when I see a movie that is incomplete,

1:29:47

uh, and either because parts are missing or

1:29:49

they were never finished and they, and

1:29:52

it enhances the idea that I'm

1:29:54

just seeing a little bit of a much larger

1:29:57

Story and it increases the scope of that story

1:29:59

more. And if I was seeing

1:30:01

the Fulfilling Eggs at mean a couple of

1:30:03

different restorations of Metropolis, this feels like every

1:30:06

ten years they discover real a film somewhere

1:30:08

in a closet that is is footage of

1:30:10

Metropolis. That was the last but he semi

1:30:12

see if they have these texts to. Explain

1:30:15

what seems you're not seeing and it's kind of.

1:30:17

For some reason it makes it more exciting to

1:30:19

me and if I was watching the movie all

1:30:21

the way through that and each time he goes

1:30:23

from text into a seen as like on diving

1:30:25

back into the movie after kind of going up

1:30:27

for air and I just recently watched a movie

1:30:29

called on a Silver Globe. As

1:30:32

a whole assigned sex and will be the

1:30:34

same director who made possession and when he

1:30:36

started making it and then was forced to

1:30:38

stop. And. The scenes that were made

1:30:40

are very elaborate and there's a lot of

1:30:42

costuming work and a lot of and a

1:30:44

very. Like. Kinetic camera work

1:30:46

in things like that but eating at the finish it

1:30:49

and so later on when he was given the money

1:30:51

to kind of finity little bit. There. Are

1:30:53

sections where he's just narrating what would

1:30:55

have happened over footage of every day.

1:30:57

Oh, and says people go on escalators

1:31:00

or walking around the streets and there's

1:31:02

something about dipping in and out of

1:31:04

this strange, fantastical. Science fiction world

1:31:06

and then back into reality that enhance

1:31:08

the experience of how weird those science

1:31:11

fiction seems. Worth it. Also. It's

1:31:13

was eating place in the future and so

1:31:15

seeing the scenes of just ordinary people walking

1:31:17

around it creed the continuity between like what

1:31:19

you're seeing as sectional. But imagine it if

1:31:21

it's just happening in the future. History of

1:31:23

this time. So these people who existed are

1:31:25

just as real as the characters I'm making

1:31:28

and vice versa. it will. It made the

1:31:30

movie. More. Interesting to me than it

1:31:32

might have been if it was this complete thinnest

1:31:34

ah you know, sign six Epic. So that's what

1:31:36

comes to mind me is sometimes a movie is

1:31:38

incomplete and it makes it more powerful and that

1:31:41

way. This next letter.

1:31:43

Or the subject line is

1:31:45

John F. Ing Adams and

1:31:47

is from Jan last name

1:31:49

withheld. Who. Writes. A

1:31:52

piece or if a teacher's splitters

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is a pizzas the teachers do

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preaches? The teacher assess assess ah.

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the jeebies. He.

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Imo listener from Wales who is very much

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looking forward to seal your allies know who

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H L M was there from Wales who

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is very much looking forward see your life

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unknown all birds. whenever. That

1:32:21

is. I hope that our plug earlier

1:32:23

cleared up that size city yeah my

1:32:25

fourth some see as. This

1:32:28

morning my cat will be at six am but

1:32:30

I wanted a snooze some more so I thought

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catching up with a flop or would help I

1:32:34

press play on the Santa Claus sorry he gets.

1:32:38

Stressed out, And. Hoped a lengthy

1:32:40

discussion of Martin Short of Jack Jack

1:32:42

Frost would send me off into a

1:32:44

blissful slumber. And. I did. Until

1:32:47

you crept into my dreams. I

1:32:49

was ripped by the powerful sensation

1:32:51

that as with you three and

1:32:53

Alonso, you are all gabbing away

1:32:55

and I have one question I

1:32:57

kept repeating over and over with

1:32:59

increasing urgency. It was. Who. The

1:33:02

fuck is John Adams? I didn't care

1:33:04

about Tim Allen or how time a

1:33:06

slow for Santa Claus. I was begging

1:33:08

You Tell me. Please. Who the

1:33:10

fuck John Adams is and you were

1:33:12

all speaking over me? Guess pieces My

1:33:15

sleepy brain had forgotten. What? A

1:33:17

podcast says. I. Question is this.

1:33:20

Have you ever been watching a film and

1:33:22

have a single question you're desperate to ask?

1:33:25

And for a chaser. Who. Is

1:33:27

less was. John. Adams He flopping

1:33:30

in the Free world same last name

1:33:32

withheld. Ah, I don't remember said John

1:33:34

Henry. I I knew that we will

1:33:36

not. I'm saying I soon we were

1:33:38

talking about the President. but I I

1:33:41

don't. Know to the armor

1:33:43

or talking about three possible John Adams.

1:33:45

This is John Adams. You feel this

1:33:47

one. The second President of the United

1:33:49

States. There's some Quincy Adams, his son

1:33:51

who was also present and states. And

1:33:54

there's John Adams the opera writer who

1:33:56

wrote like that, Nixon in China and

1:33:58

ah, he did Another. About I'm.

1:34:01

But. The called about a previous I think it

1:34:03

is something that the about the bikers I was

1:34:05

with the first one. probably not the only one

1:34:07

of them is still alive. So John Adams the

1:34:10

a composer if you are still. Ends

1:34:13

you want to feel this about who you are?

1:34:15

Oh Doctor Atomic, That's what was got the Able

1:34:17

Doctor Thomas The Trace, The Desk Klinghoffer So if

1:34:19

you want to if you want it, if you

1:34:21

want to write in and it's a lucid us

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more about you please Ill. But.

1:34:25

I yeah the other two are a probably with him

1:34:28

at the President John Adams. yeah we semi him as

1:34:30

you know. A. Person writing from Wales

1:34:32

like these are not Marquee presence

1:34:34

in the way that you know

1:34:36

their Washington, your Lincoln Eurohypo years.

1:34:39

I don't for limited Islam is

1:34:41

elevated but I know I'm insane

1:34:43

Giamatti and be allowed dog a.

1:34:46

Lawyer that of take the bigger president

1:34:48

is here. You. Know, absorb notice

1:34:50

in school as an American? maybe this

1:34:53

is one that was a semi into

1:34:55

Marty? Wrap it out. Or

1:34:58

whatever. the other question about questions

1:35:01

while watching. A movie genius?

1:35:03

Have any thoughts on this? Ah,

1:35:05

Well I mean are the most recent

1:35:07

one was over the last couple nights

1:35:10

Must my wife agreed to watch one

1:35:12

of my favorite movies from of years

1:35:14

ago. decision to leave the party and

1:35:16

with movie arm and or even though

1:35:18

I was pretty sure this wasn't going

1:35:20

to be exactly her saying see if

1:35:23

you want to watch it with me

1:35:25

Ah and it did take us or

1:35:27

three different viewings so three nights and

1:35:29

of course each time she fell asleep

1:35:31

while watching it I then woods can

1:35:33

finish was his movie but. ah

1:35:37

so i watch the movie basically completely

1:35:39

three times and you know what loved

1:35:41

it every time i think it's great

1:35:43

noticing new things each time and one

1:35:45

of the one of things that i

1:35:47

looked up device i still didn't really

1:35:49

get the answer to i'm one of

1:35:51

the elements of the movie is that

1:35:53

there is a language barrier between the

1:35:55

two leads ah he's a korean detective

1:35:57

nc is a chinese woman living in

1:35:59

korea and so and her admittedly her

1:36:01

Korean is not is not the best

1:36:03

and she has some difficulty communicating and

1:36:06

there's a comment early on that leads to an

1:36:08

inside joke between the two of them where she

1:36:11

describes something as solitary and I don't and they

1:36:13

seem to they find it to be funny in

1:36:15

a way that I don't quite understand and I

1:36:17

don't know if it's part of the translation or

1:36:20

I'm just like missing an obvious joke.

1:36:22

So that's something that I would love

1:36:25

explained to me by somebody who

1:36:27

understands what's going on. This

1:36:29

is tickling something in my brain because I feel like

1:36:32

I read something about how like there's different sort

1:36:34

of you know just as

1:36:37

in say French you would use

1:36:40

different words when you're talking to

1:36:42

someone sort of like above you

1:36:44

quote unquote or like at your

1:36:46

level like that there are nuances

1:36:48

of language in that way like

1:36:50

there's like formal sort of Korean

1:36:53

versus informal Korean that plays into a lot

1:36:55

of the nuances of the movie that we

1:36:58

wouldn't get as English speakers but

1:37:00

I don't. Okay. Yeah. It

1:37:03

reminds me a little bit of a. It reminds me about

1:37:05

when Old Boy another cultural movie came

1:37:07

out where there's the part where he slurps

1:37:09

up a live octopus or squid

1:37:11

and I remember everyone who saw it in America was

1:37:13

like can you believe that scene where he does that

1:37:15

and the Korean audiences were like that part that was

1:37:17

not one of the weirder scenes in it. You

1:37:20

see the end of that movie? Like not everybody

1:37:22

does that but that is the thing people do

1:37:24

sometimes you know. My

1:37:28

answer to this I apologize is not

1:37:31

quite right because I don't think

1:37:33

it's like asking people in the movie but

1:37:35

and I also apologize to Stewart because I'm

1:37:37

about to talk about a Wes Anderson movie

1:37:40

at some. Oh I

1:37:42

start ripping my hair out of the root. I

1:37:46

want to destroy something beautiful. But

1:37:48

the life aquatic which is you

1:37:50

know a movie that I think

1:37:53

baffled people when

1:37:55

it came out who were sort of you know

1:37:57

jumping on board the Wes Anderson

1:37:59

Train with. The Rushmore and and Royal

1:38:01

Tenenbaums. and like with this been

1:38:03

now he knows what a trainers

1:38:05

of an assessor theories as your

1:38:08

question Was this movie so bad?

1:38:10

Nevermind. A So

1:38:12

is a movie that I onda again

1:38:14

until. I.

1:38:16

Like to. I first saw it and then has only sort

1:38:18

of grown for me and I think fed. Now

1:38:21

a lot of people who like was interested

1:38:23

movies. it's one that they particular loves and

1:38:25

when the eye level but I. Resolved

1:38:28

to say that it's a movie

1:38:30

that. Feels. Very

1:38:33

much like A Shaggy Dog

1:38:35

Story in. A

1:38:37

It's not a sunny D A

1:38:40

Story Assess assess. It

1:38:42

doesn't have liked. The. Most

1:38:44

propulsive narrative. Through. Line

1:38:46

at any means, a lot of stuff happens.

1:38:48

Love sort of. But. Stuff

1:38:50

happens randomly in in the sense of

1:38:53

like a random world's not like. Is

1:38:56

not? You know? Meticulously constructed.

1:38:58

But I guess my question

1:39:01

is like. At the

1:39:03

end the scene where you know Bill

1:39:05

Murray the same a scene where they're

1:39:08

all in the sub submarine. They.

1:39:10

See the shark he's been looking for

1:39:12

he says. i wonder if it remembers

1:39:14

me. And. Like.

1:39:17

That makes me cry every time I know

1:39:19

I'm not alone this like a bunch of

1:39:21

people who like have this reaction to this

1:39:23

and excited want to. Grab.

1:39:25

Wes Anderson buttonhole and be like. Why?

1:39:30

School Isis is make the break

1:39:32

down in tears because it's a

1:39:34

in unusual moment in it. And

1:39:37

I'm invisible film and I can't

1:39:39

quite figure on what's happening there.

1:39:42

So. I need Wes Anderson to explain my

1:39:44

psychology back to me. Seat.

1:39:48

Mother's technically one. Question. Again, yeah

1:39:50

yeah Ah, I don't really have an answer for this

1:39:52

on. I feel like there's lots of times I watch

1:39:54

movies I wanted to know either. Had

1:39:56

they do that? Or. and monitored by

1:39:58

since how did you How'd they

1:40:00

do that? Or I'd wanted to spend

1:40:03

some more time with a character and kind of see

1:40:05

them existing longer But I don't feel like I have

1:40:07

one where there's just one movie with one deep

1:40:10

burning question You know, maybe I'm

1:40:12

just too afraid to make myself vulnerable by

1:40:14

admitting that I need to ask questions to

1:40:16

learn things You know? Yeah, it'd be.

1:40:18

You never know. Explain that to

1:40:20

me, Wes Anderson. Ellie, you don't need to know everything,

1:40:22

you know? You don't have to be the smartest guy

1:40:24

in the room all the time That's true. I neither

1:40:26

have to be nor can I be Um,

1:40:30

let's move on to the final

1:40:32

segment, which is recommendations Movies

1:40:36

that we saw recently That

1:40:39

we may have enjoyed. Dan's

1:40:41

furiously scrolling through a letterbox

1:40:44

to get to Garbage Bail Kids movie Stewart,

1:40:48

why don't you go first as

1:40:50

I think about something for a moment? Okay,

1:40:53

I've seen a lot of movies with Dan recently So

1:40:56

which one should I not? Which one do you want

1:40:58

to talk about more? What you want to recommend and

1:41:00

then we'll... Well, hell yeah, I'm

1:41:02

gonna recommend a movie I saw at the Nighthawk not that

1:41:04

long ago Now granted, I was a pretty shit face when

1:41:06

I watched this thing It's

1:41:09

Renny Harlan's movie, Prison. Not the act, not

1:41:11

the actual place in the world prison But