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Episode 66 - From Stuck to Secure

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0:51

You are listening to the X Good Girl podcast,

0:53

episode 66. Whenever

0:56

I decide to offer a class,

0:58

it is because I've

1:01

gone through a period of self,

1:04

Uh, experimentation and

1:07

experimentation with some of my clients, where

1:10

I have been able to see the need for

1:13

either a certain set of skills or

1:15

a certain type of, um,

1:18

awareness, because remember to solve

1:20

any problem, we need 3 things.

1:22

We need awareness of

1:25

the fact that it's a problem. We

1:27

need to have the capacity to

1:29

be able to address that problem.

1:32

And we need the skills to be able to solve

1:34

that problem. And so a very,

1:36

very common problem for anyone

1:39

who is a human is a

1:42

relationship where you feel like something

1:44

isn't working. So just

1:46

do a little mental checklist

1:49

with me. Think about Your

1:52

work relationships. Is

1:55

there a relationship there that doesn't feel

1:58

like it's working very well where you're not

2:00

able to say the things

2:02

that you need to say where you are not

2:04

able to work through problems or

2:07

issues in a way that is, uh,

2:10

that feels respectful, that feels productive,

2:13

that feels like it honors everybody

2:15

in the relationship. Think about your romantic

2:19

relationships. Is

2:21

there anything there that isn't working?

2:23

Where you don't feel like you can show up and have

2:25

your needs met. Where

2:27

you can ask for things that you want.

2:31

Think about your relationship. Maybe you have children.

2:34

Or you take care of children. Think

2:37

about those relationships. Is there any

2:40

part of those relationships where you

2:42

think, gosh, I just wish that were different,

2:44

or I don't know how to move us from

2:47

kind of always engaging in this way

2:50

to engaging in a different

2:52

way. This happens a lot. This used to happen

2:54

to me a lot with my son. I would walk

2:56

into his room. I would see the state of

2:58

his room, which was usually messy.

3:02

I would sigh and I would roll my eyes and we were kind

3:04

of off to the races. What, mom?

3:07

Why? Why are you coming in here? Why are you right?

3:09

Because we had already had a

3:12

particular dynamic that was set up

3:14

where I would go in, I would be frustrated about his

3:17

room. He would be frustrated that I was frustrated

3:19

and then we would just kind of trade frustrations back

3:21

and forth and we would never get to

3:23

actually solving the

3:26

room and protecting

3:28

our relationship. Think

3:31

about your relationships with friends. Are

3:34

you able to say when your feelings are hurt?

3:37

Are you able to say when you feel excluded

3:40

or left out? Are

3:42

you able to share your

3:44

dreams, fun

3:47

things in your life? Some

3:50

friends yes, maybe some friends no, that's totally

3:52

normal. Think through your family

3:54

relationships. Are

3:57

you able to participate in family

3:59

events in a way that feels loving

4:01

and good to you? Are you able

4:04

to talk about expectations

4:07

or hopes

4:10

with family members for

4:12

the relationships you would like to have? All

4:15

of these things are very, very

4:17

normal to want and

4:20

to not have. And so when I was thinking

4:22

about not, not just my own,

4:24

That's Um, my own experience

4:27

in my relationships, but I've been talking

4:29

now for almost seven years

4:32

to lots and lots of people and

4:34

people pleasing and the good girl rules

4:36

always show up and play out

4:39

in relationships. So

4:42

what I experienced

4:44

in my own life was a feeling

4:46

of stuck ness. And

4:50

I'm just going to use my relationship with my husband

4:52

because it was the most

4:54

profoundly painful relationship

4:57

that I had. Um,

4:59

also I loved him so much and

5:02

I did not have any

5:04

skills and sometimes I didn't have any

5:06

capacity to

5:08

do anything different. And so we

5:11

were in a relationship dynamic for a lot

5:13

of years where we were both pretending

5:16

that things were fine, that weren't fine. We

5:18

were both. Performing

5:20

for each other, right? These roles

5:22

that we thought we were supposed to, and

5:25

neither of us felt both

5:27

of us felt that stuckness, and we did not

5:29

know what to do about it. So

5:33

what I want to do is address that

5:35

dynamic head on the stuckness

5:38

that we feel in relationships, because.

5:41

Some of the relationships that we feel stuck in

5:43

actually matter a lot to us relationship

5:47

with parents where you have disagreements relationships

5:49

with, um, maybe people you work

5:51

with that contribute to your economic

5:54

and financial security. Those are important

5:57

with friends with neighbors with people

5:59

that we have, you know, ongoing

6:01

interactions with. And sometimes

6:03

we feel stuck and we're able to just easily

6:06

let a relationship go and move on. I'm

6:08

not talking about those. I'm talking

6:10

about the relationships that matter, where

6:12

you feel like there is something that is not working.

6:16

Most of the time, when

6:19

we feel like something isn't working. If

6:22

I were to kind of broadly survey

6:24

my clients and even me, what

6:26

we end up doing is hoping that

6:28

the other person changes, we

6:31

might drop hints about what we want

6:34

to change. We might even address it directly,

6:36

but we just hope that they will

6:39

understand that their

6:41

behavior is problematic

6:43

or that if they just change these

6:45

things, the relationship would be so much easier.

6:48

And we spend a lot of time just sitting back

6:50

waiting for that change to happen, hoping

6:55

and hoping someone else will change is

6:57

not an effective strategy for

7:01

changing a relationship. And I,

7:03

I mean, I say that out loud and it seems pretty obvious,

7:06

but I know so many people think for just

7:08

a second. Are you

7:10

in any relationships where you're just kind

7:12

of treading water, hoping

7:15

that something changes, that's

7:18

not bad or wrong. It's

7:20

just not how relationships actually

7:22

change. And so, in

7:25

this masterclass series that

7:27

starts on June 25th. I

7:30

want to directly address how

7:32

do you go from that stuck

7:35

place to a place

7:38

of more security? Because

7:41

in all of the coaching that I have done, in

7:43

all of the work I've done with myself, security

7:46

is the key. And

7:48

let me tell you what I mean by that. Security

7:52

is the internal feeling

7:55

of safety. And

7:58

by safety, I mean the

8:00

feeling that I can handle

8:02

what will happen. It doesn't mean I like

8:04

it. It doesn't mean it's easy. It might

8:06

still be very overwhelming and

8:09

it might be painful. And there might

8:11

be a lot of big feelings to wade through

8:13

or to work through. But I

8:15

can do it. And

8:17

so for a lot of my clients and for

8:19

me, that was the part

8:22

that was missing. I did not

8:24

have the security within myself.

8:27

To take on having some

8:29

of these big conversations, I

8:31

didn't have the security to take

8:33

on bringing

8:36

things up that felt really prickly

8:38

and potentially like they were going to make somebody else

8:40

mad. I think there's a

8:42

lot of good reasons why we don't bring these things

8:45

up when we don't have the skills

8:47

and when we don't have the security. What

8:49

we worry about is what if I hurt this other

8:51

person's feelings, or

8:54

what if I bring this

8:56

up and I find out that

8:58

they don't really value this

9:01

relationship at the same level that I do,

9:04

and they don't want to meet my needs

9:06

or my wants. They don't want us

9:08

to have this kind of reciprocal

9:10

and responsive relationship. That's

9:13

going to be painful. Or

9:17

what if I lose or damage,

9:19

what if I damage or lose this relationship

9:21

completely? So

9:23

there's a lot of good reasons why we don't

9:26

bring this up and

9:28

why we tend to just go into this kind of

9:31

hoping state. And

9:33

what I want you to know is there another, there's another way

9:36

and it starts with security.

9:39

The type of security that is the internal

9:43

feeling of I

9:45

can handle this. Not

9:47

that it's going to be easy, not that it's going

9:49

to not be painful. And

9:52

the reason that I can handle it is because

9:54

I know myself. I

9:56

know how to take good care of

9:58

me. And I know that no

10:00

matter what happens, I

10:03

will do that. So

10:05

all of that starts first with you.

10:07

And that's where we get turned around because remember

10:10

what the good girl rules teach us is

10:12

that other people's opinions

10:14

of us, their, um,

10:16

their thoughts about whether or not we're a good

10:19

or worthy or valuable person. That's

10:21

what gives us security. And you know what? That is

10:23

part of it. We are wired

10:25

to feel. Emotionally

10:28

secure when we are with

10:30

our group, think about how

10:32

wonderful it is to be with

10:35

people where you feel like you belong,

10:39

where you can let your hair down, where

10:41

you can be yourself. If

10:44

you have even one place like that,

10:47

that's such a gift. As

10:49

I think about some friendships, as I think about

10:51

my relationship with my husband

10:55

and the security that I feel there,

10:57

it's very tender. It

11:00

feels like a warm weightedness,

11:04

not heaviness, but like solid

11:06

grounding. What

11:08

does it feel like for you? Take

11:11

just a second. Think

11:13

about where you find that external

11:16

security and belonging. Pay

11:19

attention to your body. How

11:21

does it feel for you? It's

11:23

so important to recognize that. And

11:27

it's so important to also

11:29

affirm that as humans

11:32

who are mammals, that

11:34

we are pack animals. We

11:36

are group animals. Who

11:39

survive and thrive best

11:41

in groups. So, of course, we

11:44

need that external security.

11:46

And if you've heard me kind of explain

11:48

the, the, the, the

11:50

genesis of people pleasing,

11:53

it's because babies need to belong to survive.

11:56

They need people bigger than them to

11:58

take care of them. And so they pick

12:00

up all this information about what the

12:02

big people like and what the big people

12:04

want. And then they do that and

12:07

then they get belonging and acceptance and they get

12:09

taken care of. That's a very simplified,

12:12

um, kind of take on that.

12:14

I have a whole podcast episode that dives into

12:16

that, um, directly.

12:18

And I'll link, I'll put a link to that in the show notes. But

12:22

eventually, it

12:24

almost feels like our need

12:27

for outside external validation

12:30

becomes bottomless. It's

12:33

that bottomless pit feeling.

12:36

I have definitely felt that. For

12:39

a little while, um, my home's cold.

12:42

Back in when I was, um, active

12:45

in the LDS church, which I

12:47

no longer attend, I was

12:49

a school teacher. I wanted extra time

12:51

with my kids. I thought the idea of homeschooling

12:53

was brilliant and beautiful. And so that's

12:55

what we did for like a decade. Crazy,

12:58

huh? And I

13:00

was a part of a group of women

13:03

that I loved that I never

13:05

really felt fully accepted by.

13:08

And so every time Well,

13:11

and, and to be, um, really

13:13

transparent about why that was is because I

13:15

already had doubts and

13:17

questions about the LDS church and

13:20

all of them were LDS. And

13:22

there is this assumption among

13:25

a lot of people, I'm not going to say everyone because

13:27

I don't know, but in a lot of LDS circles,

13:30

the assumption is that everybody believes

13:32

the same thing and everybody agrees

13:35

with the same things and everybody

13:37

is in the same place in terms of their,

13:40

their faith. And

13:42

I knew that I wasn't. I knew

13:44

that I thought differently about

13:46

some really core

13:49

things like, LGBTQ

13:52

people and whether or not God loved them

13:54

the same as everybody else and had an

13:56

equal place for them in

13:59

the church and You know,

14:01

the, the, the theology around

14:03

that I believe something very different and I knew

14:05

it. And so I

14:08

had this constant feeling

14:10

of needing for them to approve

14:13

of me so that I felt

14:16

safe. With those parts

14:18

of me that I knew that they would not

14:21

approve of and so every

14:23

time we would get together. I would feel

14:25

kind of this familiar anxiety of

14:28

wanting. I didn't I don't know. I

14:31

for sure didn't know at the time that that's what

14:33

it was. But if I could look back

14:35

with hindsight being what it

14:37

is. I was worried

14:39

that there was some part of me that

14:42

was unacceptable to them and

14:45

rather than just address that directly, because

14:47

I didn't have the capacity or skills to do

14:49

that. I looked for other

14:51

ways to be helpful, to be useful,

14:54

to be needed. To be

14:57

accepted for them

14:59

to want to spend time

15:01

and, um, you

15:04

know, energy with, with me

15:06

and my kids. And

15:08

it was just a bottomless pit because

15:12

Monday would be over and, you

15:14

know, I would get the validation

15:16

that I was looking for. And then on

15:18

Thursday, I would need it again. And

15:20

then the next time I would need it again. And so think

15:22

for just a minute, is

15:25

there a relationship like that in your life?

15:28

Where it feels like no matter how

15:30

many times. You

15:33

feel validated. You feel needed and you feel

15:35

loved. It's still not

15:37

enough to provide that security for you

15:40

where you just feel settled

15:43

and confident that this

15:45

is real and it's not going to

15:47

go away. It's

15:50

very normal. If you're feeling that,

15:52

there's nothing wrong with that. That happens in every single

15:54

human, uh, relationship

15:57

of every single human I've ever worked with. So

16:00

the good news is if you're like, yeah, I,

16:02

I can think of a relationship right now that just feels

16:05

like a never ending need for

16:08

validation and belonging. That's

16:11

just totally normal. That's a human experience. The

16:14

problem is that just becomes really painful

16:17

to live with day after day after day. And then

16:19

the way that you try to get that validation

16:22

is by overgiving, overworking, Over

16:25

delivering on maybe

16:27

things that you wouldn't do if

16:30

you felt secure. So

16:34

the point of this masterclass

16:36

series that is coming up is to

16:38

offer people a place to

16:40

create first that

16:43

security with themselves. We're

16:45

going to bring that need for validation

16:48

that we've been outsourcing and we're going to

16:50

bring it in house. Thanks. And

16:52

we're going to create security

16:55

with us first. Now,

16:58

there is a real risk here that

17:01

I could oversimplify this. And

17:04

so I'm kind of, I'm trying to talk

17:06

about it as if it is doable,

17:08

but not simple. Because it

17:10

is absolutely doable.

17:13

How long it takes or what will come up

17:16

for you as you are creating the security

17:18

for yourself, I don't know that. And

17:20

frankly, probably neither do you, right,

17:23

at this point. Because. The first

17:25

step in creating security

17:27

for ourselves is actually

17:30

to figure out why we don't feel secure with

17:32

ourselves. Is it because

17:35

you are just in a chronic

17:37

state of doubt? Is

17:39

it because you are chronically critical or

17:42

judgmental? Is

17:44

it because you, you are your own bully?

17:48

Always tearing yourself apart, examining

17:50

all of the mistakes that you made, berating

17:53

yourself for not doing better and being better.

17:57

I never tire of saying this. A

18:00

woman who is not safe with

18:02

herself is not

18:04

safe anywhere. So

18:07

the first step in creating

18:09

that personal security is

18:11

to find out why you

18:13

have those parts. That

18:16

are just tearing you to

18:18

pieces every time something

18:20

goes wrong. And then it's to

18:23

give those parts of you love

18:26

and curiosity and

18:29

time and attention.

18:32

All of us have parts. That

18:35

came into being when

18:37

we were young, when we needed

18:40

to be, um, noticing

18:43

what other people wanted from us, when

18:45

we needed to be aware of the rules

18:48

of the different groups that we belonged to,

18:51

we needed, it was essential

18:53

that we become very aware of what would

18:55

get us rewarded in our groups.

18:58

And what got us punished because

19:00

again, belonging is a central

19:03

human need. And

19:05

so if I need to belong, I need to know

19:08

what I get in trouble for doing and thus

19:10

gets me disconnected and

19:13

what I get rewarded for with more

19:15

connection and belonging. It's essential.

19:18

So once we understand

19:21

and have compassion for

19:23

those parts of us that that's all they were trying

19:25

to do. They're just trying to keep

19:27

us secure and they

19:29

do it. By

19:31

trying to, it,

19:34

it, it, it, it, in my brain, it sounds like this.

19:37

If I just beat you up enough, you'll

19:39

change. If I am just

19:41

hard enough on you, you'll

19:44

do it differently next time. You'll remember. It's

19:46

going to be so painful this time that

19:48

you'll just really remember. And

19:50

you know what the crazy thing is? At one point that

19:52

worked. I was

19:54

very motivated by avoiding the pain of

19:56

disappointing other people and

19:58

I would change my behavior. Absolutely.

20:01

And it got me belonging and it got me

20:03

friendship and it got me community.

20:07

The problem becomes as I get

20:09

older, and I see the amount

20:11

of self abandonment that

20:14

I have to do to keep the

20:16

rules of those groups. I

20:18

don't want to do it anymore. But this part

20:20

of me is still is very well

20:22

developed and has been with me for decades. And

20:25

so that part that needs

20:27

to be done. My attention is

20:29

trying to keep me safe. It's

20:33

trying to get me belonging. It's

20:36

trying to protect the communities

20:38

that I'm a part of. And

20:41

so of course, when I'm

20:43

again, back to my relationship with my husband,

20:46

I, whenever I would want

20:48

to tell him how much

20:51

I needed him, how much I loved him,

20:54

how worried I was that he would leave,

20:56

how the thing, some of

20:59

the things that he did hurt my feelings

21:01

or made me feel like. Small.

21:04

I would have a part of me that would scream.

21:07

No, do not

21:10

say that. Stop. You cannot

21:12

say that. He's going to think you're gross.

21:14

He's going to think you're needy. He's going to think

21:16

that there's something. Why are you so needy?

21:19

Stop. No, no. Just

21:21

deal with it on your own. You just tuck

21:23

that feeling down in there. No,

21:26

that's gross. Even as

21:28

I say that, I kind of feel the anxiousness intention

21:31

in my body and that's what it would feel like.

21:34

Right, like, I have all of this hurt or

21:36

this vulnerability or this tenderness. I want

21:38

to share and I can't because

21:40

this protector part is

21:42

in the way. And

21:45

so when we want to make the switch

21:48

from stuckness or being stuck

21:50

in that. You know,

21:53

place where I can't do anything right

21:55

except go hide and pretend like

21:57

nothing is wrong and lick my wounds

21:59

in private and take care of my

22:02

sadness on my own. That's my only option.

22:05

That feels really stuck. And

22:08

so to move into a place of security

22:11

means to help that part

22:14

know. That I can handle

22:18

what's going to happen. And it involves

22:21

creating a completely different conversation

22:24

around those big feelings and

22:26

around the worries that those parts

22:29

have about

22:31

what's going to happen if you

22:34

tell this other person, what you really think. What's

22:36

going to happen if you share your

22:39

innermost tenderness? And

22:41

maybe not even innermost tenderness, but like, what's

22:43

going to happen if you tell your boss, you know what,

22:45

I'm going through a really hard time right now.

22:48

I have a lot of demands on my mental health

22:51

or on my actual physical health.

22:54

And I'm not going to be able to take on that extra project

22:56

right now, because

22:59

what we worry about most is

23:01

punishment. And when it's

23:03

tied to receiving love,

23:07

economic security, of course

23:09

it feels scary. But

23:13

on the other hand, we have the self abandonment,

23:16

the overworking, the overgiving, the

23:18

not taking care of ourselves. And

23:21

so if you are at a point in your

23:23

relationships where

23:26

you can see that stuckness.

23:29

And it hurts or it

23:31

bothers you, or, you know, you just

23:33

something has to change and

23:36

you've been putting a lot of time and energy and effort

23:38

into hoping or hinting, then

23:41

this workshop is for you. I've tried

23:44

to make it as easy as possible

23:46

to say yes. All of the details

23:48

that you need to know are in the link in

23:50

the show notes and in my bio, but I'm going to tell you what they are here.

23:53

Just so you know. It's two 90

23:55

minute classes. on

23:58

June 27th, excuse me, June 25th

24:00

and June 27th in the later

24:02

evening so that anyone can attend. First

24:06

night, June 25th, I'm

24:08

going to teach you how to create the security

24:11

with you. And then

24:13

the second night, I'm going to teach you how

24:15

to create that security or how to take

24:17

that security that you've created with yourself

24:21

into the relationships that you're trying to

24:23

change. So that you can have

24:25

some of these conversations, you're

24:27

going to leave those two sessions

24:30

with an actual playbook

24:33

for how to maintain and

24:35

continue to create more security

24:37

with yourself. And then

24:39

how to take that security and

24:42

have conversations, because

24:44

one of the things that is the hardest

24:46

for people pleasers is to say

24:49

the words we actually want to say. So

24:52

then you're going to have a period of time to practice,

24:55

but I'm not going to leave you all by yourself.

24:58

Between June 28th and July

25:00

7th, You're going to get a

25:03

mini podcast series that is private.

25:05

It is just for the people who sign up for this

25:07

class. They're going to be very

25:09

short episodes, reminders,

25:11

encouragement, stories,

25:14

strategies, tips to

25:16

just keep you on track. This

25:18

practice session or this kind of practice

25:20

time that you're going to be given between

25:23

June 28th and July 7th. It's

25:25

essential because it's you taking

25:27

that playbook on a test drive. And

25:30

we need to know what happens. We need to

25:32

know what goes right and we need

25:34

to know what goes wrong so that we can

25:37

tweak it and try again.

25:40

So in that period of time, you're going to get

25:42

the mini podcast series and I'm going to be sending

25:44

you some texts to encourage you

25:46

to invite any responses

25:49

and get you any coaching that you need.

25:53

Then on July 8th. We're going to

25:55

come back together for a group coaching

25:57

session. This is one of my favorite things

25:59

because it's where we evaluate

26:02

what worked, what didn't work, and what do I need

26:04

to keep going and try again.

26:07

If you are serious about building security,

26:11

this is the place to be because

26:14

you get the teaching, you get the

26:16

practice, you get the evaluation,

26:18

and then every participant

26:20

gets. a free one on one

26:23

session with me. 45

26:25

minutes that is just yours so

26:27

that I can go through with you the specifics

26:30

of your relationships. And

26:33

I can also offer you some information

26:35

on how I could be helpful if

26:37

you joined my group stop people pleasing.

26:40

Because one of the things that is

26:43

the most essential part of this is that

26:45

you begin to get a vision

26:47

of yourself with

26:49

more security. You begin

26:51

to see what would I be capable

26:54

of if I had more security

26:56

with myself and in my relationship.

26:59

A secure woman can

27:02

speak up with confidence. And

27:05

again, her confidence is not that everybody else is

27:07

going to like what she's going to say, or that

27:09

they're going to approve, but that she

27:11

approves and that she can handle

27:14

whatever happens. A

27:16

woman who is secure has

27:18

at least a general

27:21

understanding of what makes her happy, what

27:23

she wants, what she doesn't want, what she likes,

27:25

what she doesn't like, and she's able

27:28

to take the risk of sharing

27:30

that. Because she is so

27:32

connected to herself and

27:35

loves herself deeply. I

27:37

know that some of this sounds so

27:40

far away from where you are, but

27:42

I want you to just stick with me. Because we

27:44

can't move toward a goal unless

27:47

we have some idea. Of

27:49

why it's valuable. So

27:52

a secure woman can disappoint

27:54

other people when that

27:56

is what is best for her. It's

27:58

still not something she enjoys doing. There

28:01

might be some anxiety or some fear there. That's

28:03

very normal, but she can do

28:05

it when it is what needs

28:08

to happen. A secure

28:10

woman can have hard conversations.

28:14

She can set and hold boundaries. She

28:17

can decide the

28:19

direction of her life where she wants

28:21

to spend her time. And

28:24

self connection is

28:27

the goal here. Many people think

28:29

that when you stop people pleasing, you become selfish.

28:32

But what I want you to understand is that security

28:35

isn't selfish. It is self

28:37

connection. And the beautiful

28:40

thing about self connection is

28:42

once you have it, you want it for everybody.

28:45

Like, this feels so amazing to have

28:47

my own back this way. I want everybody to have

28:49

it. And so you show up differently.

28:52

You honor yourself and everyone

28:55

else in the relationship in a different

28:57

way that is not selfish

28:59

at all, but from

29:01

self connection and

29:04

from the confidence that you can handle whatever

29:06

happens. Thank you. You are a different

29:08

person in the relationships that you have,

29:11

and you can say what you need to say

29:13

and do what you need to do. And

29:16

that is like, if I could wave

29:18

my magic wand and have that

29:21

for every single person.

29:24

I think that's, that's it. Right. Because

29:27

when we can all remain in self

29:29

connection and love for me and

29:32

love and connection to you, then

29:35

our relationships are much more honest,

29:38

and they're much richer. So

29:41

if this sounds like. Something

29:43

that you want to consider this your invitation

29:46

to join this workshop

29:48

series that starts on June 25th, everything

29:51

you need to know to sign up. Oh, I forgot

29:53

to mention it's 37 tried to

29:55

make it super accessible and inexpensive.

29:58

One more time, you get the 290 minute

30:01

master classes on the 25th and 27th of June.

30:04

There's a practice period where you get a lot of support

30:07

and a lot of interaction from me between

30:10

the 28th of July and the 7th

30:12

of June. Of June, excuse me, 28th

30:15

of June and 7th of July,

30:18

and then on the 8th of July, a group

30:20

coaching program. And then a

30:22

one on one. I

30:25

can't wait to see you. Whenever

30:28

I do something like this, I put my heart into it

30:31

because it is truly my wish

30:33

that every single woman, every

30:35

single human be able to

30:37

act from self connection and confidence,

30:40

having their own back. And that's what we're going to do. I'll

30:42

see you then.

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