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1:39

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond

1:42

Green Show. We got them this

1:45

next guest, I'm honored to have. It's

1:47

been a long time coming. Sometimes

1:50

hard to pin the Sea Captain

1:52

down, but nonetheless let me get

1:54

into this intro. As

1:56

I said, we got to see Captain join it today.

1:58

Draft about it with the eleven picked

2:00

by the Golden State Warriors.

2:01

In twenty eleven.

2:03

Four time NBA Champion, five

2:05

time NBA All Star, two time

2:08

All NBA thirteen NBA

2:10

All Defensive Second Team, which

2:13

is I love? That was a big

2:15

one. That was a big one right there. Also

2:17

twenty sixteen Olympic

2:20

gold medalist, none other than

2:22

my brother, the one and only Klay

2:24

Thompson.

2:25

What's up.

2:26

Well, it's good to be back.

2:28

Well, it's great to have you on the show for

2:30

y'all out there. We have been trying to put

2:33

this together now for about a year. But

2:37

you know, I've played with Clayton now for twelve years,

2:40

and I know, like, you don't overly

2:42

bother Clay. So I just been kind

2:44

of like throwing the jab every now and they're like, yo, we

2:46

gotta do the pot. And then Clay committed,

2:49

and then he decommitted, and then he committed

2:51

again and.

2:52

We're here, so I appreciate you coming

2:54

on.

2:54

Yeah, no problem, man.

2:56

Let's let's get into it. Though.

2:57

You know, I always always

3:00

say, you know, I get questions

3:03

most about you and stuff,

3:05

what stuff like, what's Clay like?

3:07

And the reality is is.

3:10

People don't think you talk really, So

3:12

I'm I'm super excited to

3:14

get you on the pod and see

3:16

if I can get you to talk a little more than

3:18

these people think you talk.

3:21

Well, I just talk as much as I have to.

3:26

First off, just just getting right into it, man,

3:28

What was it like getting drafted by the

3:30

Golden State Warriors?

3:33

But growing you grew up as a lifelong

3:35

Laker fan.

3:36

Dad played for the Lakers, grew up as a Laker

3:38

fan, and then you get drafted by the

3:40

Golden State Warriors.

3:41

What was that like? Did your dad kind.

3:43

Of needle you a bit when that happened about

3:45

going to a losing franchise?

3:47

I know how competitive y'all are.

3:50

Yeah, Well, I was actually a Blazer

3:52

fan and a Laker fans simultaneously

3:55

because my dad played

3:57

for both teams and great

4:00

success with both franchises. So very

4:02

conflicting because the Lakers stood

4:04

at everybody's way, but growing up

4:07

in Portland, Blazers were everything.

4:09

Rose Garden was everything.

4:11

And what

4:13

it was like being drafted by Golden State

4:15

it was a dream really because moving

4:18

to SoCal and going to high school down there

4:21

and knowing I'd be close to my family and I

4:26

was still in California, I was on the West Coast. It

4:28

was Yeah, it was a dream

4:30

really.

4:30

I mean.

4:32

It was as close to home as you could

4:34

really get. And uh,

4:37

all my expectations that have been exceeded

4:39

in my time here. Uh just

4:42

you know, listing off those accolades you did

4:45

made me realize how blessed I am. Especially

4:49

Yeah, growing up watching a lot of NBA

4:51

and it's Yeah, exceeded

4:54

everything I ever thought would become of being a

4:56

Warrior.

4:57

When you when you first got drafted to

4:59

the Warriors and twenty eleven, Steph

5:02

is starting his third

5:04

year, but

5:06

at the time dealing with ankle injuries

5:08

and the whole nine being questioned on if

5:11

he'll actually pan out and.

5:12

All of those things.

5:13

When you get drafted to the

5:15

Warriors that year, what's

5:18

your thought of Steph Curry?

5:19

You don't know much about him.

5:20

You're excited or you don't even know to

5:23

get to excitement or get

5:25

excited because you don't

5:27

know so much about him at the time.

5:28

What was your understanding Steph at that time?

5:31

Oh?

5:31

Well, Steph was already a superstar in

5:33

my eyes because I was a

5:35

big college basketball fan, and the

5:38

tournament run he had in

5:41

two thousand and I think eight or nine

5:43

was so special, and

5:46

that's when I think he really elevated himself

5:48

to having a national following. And I

5:51

was one of those followers. So I was already very

5:53

familiar with his game and

5:57

just did on top of

5:59

the I mean, I almost had a chance of playing in

6:01

college and then I t my freshman year. We

6:04

lost to Saint Mary's, who then played

6:07

Davidson the second round. So that yeah,

6:09

that's been a very cool experience. But

6:12

it didn't happen, so it's all good.

6:15

Yeah, that's funny.

6:16

Yeah, that's been cool.

6:18

Know who was who.

6:20

Earlier in your career and I'm taking you back, who,

6:24

if any, was a vet for you

6:26

that took you under their wing that you look

6:29

back on because and the reason

6:31

I asked that question is this, And we'll

6:33

get into that a little later, but I

6:36

see what you're now doing for

6:39

the young fellas on our team, Uh,

6:41

sacrificing, teaching, instilling

6:44

confidence. Who was the vet

6:46

for you when you first

6:48

came in the league that kind of took you under their wing?

6:50

If any?

6:51

Oh yeah, my rookie year, I

6:54

would say Darrell drell

6:56

Wright was was great. I

6:58

mean Darrell had the record for

7:00

most three pointers made in a

7:03

Warrior season at the time. And

7:06

he was from southern California as well, and

7:09

we said a lot of common you know, big lanky wings

7:11

who loved to shoot the three ball.

7:14

He enjoys baseball just like I do.

7:17

So d Wright was a great vet to me.

7:18

He would take me out to dinner, he would look after

7:21

me and just teach

7:24

me what the NBA life was like, So

7:27

d Wright was great. I mean, David Lee was a great

7:29

VET. D Lee was

7:31

like a superstar my eyes, because I'm a rookie

7:33

and he's already an All Star, one

7:37

of the best players on the Knicks team, double

7:39

double machine. So I looked

7:41

up to those two guys just being them,

7:44

so establishing their careers. And

7:47

I mean Monte was great as well. Mante I

7:49

just always admired his talent. You

7:52

know, I was to be able to average twenty five plus

7:54

in the NBA. I really was

7:58

enamored by that.

7:59

I aspire to do that.

8:00

So I always watched Mante

8:02

closely, just how he you

8:06

know, acted in practice or what his game

8:08

day rituals were. And

8:11

then my second year, I thought,

8:14

or third year, I thought Jermaine O'Neil

8:17

was a great VET. Jermaine I grew

8:19

up in Portland, so I knew him

8:22

from his rookie year and on. He was straight

8:24

out of high school, and jo

8:26

was just even beyond basketball.

8:28

He was the first player to really

8:31

teach me about business

8:33

and entrepreneurship, and he was talking

8:35

that off the

8:37

court, investing long before it was

8:39

ever mainstream and

8:41

popular amongst players.

8:43

These days, and jo was

8:45

really.

8:46

Opened my mind when I

8:48

to so many new

8:51

things. And that's why so much respect for Jail

8:53

because he didn't

8:56

go to university and he

8:58

still became am an incredible, incredibly

9:01

savvy business person and he

9:05

kept learning and educating himself. And that's the type

9:07

of leader I love to be around. And so

9:09

I give Jail a ton of credit for talking

9:12

about things outside of hoop that really expanded

9:14

my horizons.

9:16

You spoke with Monte, and

9:19

obviously Monte

9:22

was was traded away, your second

9:25

year, first first year, first year in the league.

9:29

Monte gets traded away. That's all this

9:31

almost in a sense kind

9:34

of thrusting you and Steph ahead

9:37

right away. Yeah. Did

9:39

you feel any added pressure or anything

9:41

of that nature when when

9:43

Monte was traded away or did that more so

9:46

fall onto Steph

9:48

at that time?

9:49

Yeah?

9:50

I do remember when Mante was traded. I give

9:52

Mante a ton of credit because you

9:54

know, he could have not

9:57

given paid me no mind, and

10:00

you know, he's established the best

10:02

player on our team. He's established playing in the

10:04

same position they drafted two guard

10:06

in the lottery.

10:07

He could have had a.

10:08

Bad attitude about it, but he was a great vet in

10:10

that sense and always

10:12

looked out for US rookies. But

10:14

when he got traded, I

10:17

did. I didn't feel the pressure, but I knew that

10:21

I had an opportunity and I'll

10:24

never forget. You know, after he

10:26

did get traded, we were playing the Kings

10:29

at Arco Arena and Steph

10:32

might have been out that night, but he did come up

10:35

to me pregame and gave

10:37

me a really good pep talk, like, look, this is

10:40

your time to seize this moment and

10:43

be yourself because it's

10:46

right there for you to take. And

10:50

that meant a lot to me. He went out his way to tell me that,

10:53

especially as a twenty one year old rookie,

10:56

and Steph Curry's telling me that

10:58

I could be the future too guard of this team that

11:01

is stilled a ton of confidence in me. I

11:03

think I went six for nineteen that night, but we got

11:05

the w and but

11:09

then I had a great run after that, and that's

11:11

because you know, the

11:14

team gave me so much confidence making

11:17

those moves to allow me to kind

11:19

of fail my rookie year and play

11:22

through mistakes, and that experience

11:25

did so much for me being able to play thirty

11:27

five minutes against the Celtics or the

11:29

Lakers, and against guys that I

11:31

grew up idolizing. So my rookie

11:34

year was one of the best times of my life.

11:35

Really, Mark Jackson said

11:37

very early on, I'll never

11:40

forget it because I remember everybody saying, like,

11:42

Yo, he's crazy, what is he talking about?

11:45

Blah blah blah. He said very early on

11:48

a couple of things. He said, I got the two

11:50

baddest shooters on the planet. I

11:52

got the baddest backcourt in the game, best

11:55

backcourt ever. And

11:58

when he said that early on, everybody's like,

12:00

ah, what's

12:03

wrong with what is he talking about?

12:04

What does he see? And yeah,

12:10

you guys go on to.

12:13

Completely change the way the game

12:15

of basketball is played, like completely.

12:19

But at that time, when Mark Jackson

12:22

goes on live

12:24

television, national television to.

12:26

Say that.

12:28

What did that do for you

12:30

or what did it do to you? How did you feel

12:32

about it?

12:34

Well, I knew Steph was in that

12:36

realm at the time. I did not know

12:38

if I was there yet I

12:41

knew I could be. What's funny

12:44

is.

12:46

When I was really active on Twitter back then,

12:50

I put my bio even before I ever

12:52

played an NBA game, I put

12:54

I'm chasing Ray Allen as far

12:57

as trying to break

12:59

that record or whatever, right, so to

13:02

kind of follow that mold of being

13:04

a Ray Allen Reggie Miller type player.

13:08

And then for Mark to say

13:10

those things and

13:12

him not even budge about it, when

13:15

you know the experts and analysis

13:18

were dogging him for it

13:21

gave me so much confidence. And Mark

13:24

isn't just going to gas you up like that.

13:26

He's seeing the best ever play he's played

13:28

against, the best ever played. So when

13:30

someone like Mark Jackson says that, it

13:34

did so much for me, especially eternally,

13:36

and I'll never forget another

13:39

time when this

13:41

one knew I had another chance to

13:43

be special or do some

13:46

cool things. Was Donnie Walsh

13:48

for the Knicks. I worked out for the Knicks, and

13:51

I had a good workout. I was like twenty two or

13:53

twenty five in spot shooting, and then Donnie

13:55

comes up to me and he's like, Clay, you remind

13:57

me so much of Reggie Miller. And

14:00

when he said that, I was like, man, that's really cool because

14:02

I watched so much of Reggie's film as him

14:05

just coming off flopy action pinned downs,

14:07

his game winning highlight reel shots.

14:10

So those two instances

14:12

as far as just give me

14:14

confidence from Mark to Donnie Walsh, I

14:17

knew if I kept working that despite

14:19

what the naysayers say, I would be able to do

14:22

some really cool things in this league.

14:24

What do you think about

14:26

like and no one speaking of that,

14:28

think the confidence that

14:31

Mark Jackson, coach Mark Jackson instilled

14:33

in you. And I always speak about

14:36

that, like I think back to those days

14:38

and like, if there was one thing

14:40

that he did, is he, like

14:43

Mark would put confidence on the plate and

14:45

just hand it to you like he That's

14:47

what he did, Like he could give

14:50

you confidence, like I think that was one

14:52

in strong suits. And then you look he was a point guard.

14:54

It's in a sense of what point guards do. They make

14:56

you feel good, They get you the ball in your spots and

14:58

all those things. And

15:01

Mark had that ability as

15:04

good as anyone I've ever seen. I

15:07

think he was absolutely special

15:10

in that department. And saying that, when

15:13

you look at all of these teams around NBA

15:15

young teams in particular, like we were

15:19

when Mark instilled that confidence.

15:21

Coach Jackson, I call him, but we're speaking

15:23

on.

15:23

Here, and Mark instill

15:26

in the confidence that he did, and you look

15:28

at all of these young teams around

15:31

the NBA who can't get

15:33

a win, suck year

15:35

in and year out, and knowing and understanding

15:38

the confidence that he gave us at that point

15:40

when the Warriors is coming off winning

15:43

twenty three games in the season, what

15:46

do you make of none of

15:48

those teams hiring them knowing what

15:51

he did for us at that point

15:53

in our careers.

15:54

Yeah, it's strange.

15:56

It just doesn't add up because without

15:58

Mark, there's no foundation for

16:00

what was to come, especially

16:03

defensively. I mean, we had the

16:05

top rated defense in consecutive

16:08

years with Mark, and then for

16:10

him to you know, let

16:12

Steph and I shoot the shots we would shoot.

16:17

That was kind of taboo back then. But now

16:19

I'm watching all levels

16:21

of basketball and you're seeing dribble

16:24

packages, step backs, transition

16:27

threes, You're seeing crazy pulls

16:30

from all levels, which is great. It's the evolution

16:32

of the game. But if it wasn't for Mark,

16:35

this would never have happened. So it

16:37

does. It does not make

16:40

very much sense how he has not had another shot

16:42

to lead a franchise,

16:44

But I hope he really does because

16:47

he man, he was

16:49

great and those were really special memories

16:51

for not only me, but when you were

16:53

young, and Steph and all

16:56

the guys we play with can't freaking hb

16:59

fest.

17:00

We were a young team.

17:03

And without that kind of false bravado

17:05

that Mark provided, we would never believe

17:08

we could beat Tim Duncan led

17:10

Spurs or go to Denver

17:12

and win a playoff series being twenty three

17:14

years old. Twenty two, Yeah,

17:17

some young twenty year olds. So I'm

17:20

I don't know why that hasn't happened.

17:23

But Mark was

17:25

great, and I really think he should

17:27

get another shot because he was such

17:29

a joy to play for, and he was

17:31

such an incredible motivator and I just

17:33

love picking his brain about the times

17:35

he faced Michael or what was like running

17:38

the pick and roll Patrick Ewing and I grew

17:40

up playing NBA jam and watching so much Soop,

17:42

so it was really cool just to you

17:45

know, learn from him.

17:47

Absolutely.

17:49

I second that I always talk about

17:51

just the confidence that he instilled in us,

17:56

especially in you two guys like you said at

17:58

the shots that they'd allow y'all to take, like

18:02

it started the transition in basketball

18:04

of what we see today, no question.

18:08

And then take you far back

18:10

again.

18:11

I remember Steve first

18:14

coming in and Steve is

18:16

implementing his offense, and

18:19

we're going through training camp and he's like Clayton,

18:22

swing the ball, Steph, swing the

18:24

ball, move.

18:25

The ball, and like every time we come down

18:27

the court, he's just like moving, move and move it.

18:30

And I remember asking.

18:31

Him, Yo,

18:33

Stephan clay like they

18:36

get the shots here, how

18:38

are they going to get these shots and

18:41

him saying, the

18:43

ball will find who the ball.

18:44

Is supposed to find. But

18:48

we're going to move the ball.

18:49

We're going to be a ball moving team

18:53

with Steve coming in to implement his office,

18:55

and it's just ball movement, ball movement, And originally

18:58

we don't quite understand which is out the like

19:00

oh man, Like I remember the grunts

19:02

and like everybody's like, yo, this is trash.

19:05

Like he just keep telling us to pass

19:07

the ball, Like I mean,

19:10

like I remember that

19:13

that happens Steve's

19:15

implemented his new At that time,

19:18

what are you thinking, Are you at all worried

19:21

that you won't have the same freedom, that you won't get

19:23

the same shots At that time, what are you thinking

19:25

with coach kirkr coming in and none of

19:27

us could even see like

19:30

remotely close to the vision that he had our

19:32

offense.

19:33

Well, I didn't know Steve Kurt the Blazer because I

19:35

was a Blazer fan, so you

19:37

know, knockdown shooter, I think,

19:39

all time leader in three point field goal percentage.

19:43

So being a young gunner,

19:45

I knew he was going to

19:50

utilize my skill and appreciate my skill

19:53

of being a perimeter player. And

19:56

I'll never forget Steve first

19:59

week of training camp. One of his biggest

20:01

emphasis was last

20:03

year we were the last team in

20:06

passes may per game, and then

20:08

that year in twenty fifteen, we were with a team

20:10

with the most passes may per game, and

20:12

I think that just unlocked

20:15

a whole new dimension of basketball I never

20:18

really seen before as far as

20:21

the shooting and the athleticism combined.

20:24

What we had it was special

20:26

and I think it kind of blitz the NBA by storm

20:28

just with the small ball

20:30

and the pace and the space. It was an

20:33

incredible time to be a Warrior. So I

20:35

do give Steve a ton of credit.

20:37

He didn't He

20:39

would.

20:39

Always give coach Jackson credit, especially for laying

20:42

the foundation. But he just did a few tweaks

20:44

and a little couple modifications to the

20:46

offensive system that just

20:49

did wonders from my game and obviously Steph,

20:51

but it did so

20:53

much for me as far as just being an off ball cutter

20:56

and a mover and a floor spacer

20:58

that I've kind of still played in that

21:00

same role now and it's kind of just it's

21:02

been good to me.

21:04

Absolutely, No, I think, uh, you

21:06

know what, Like I said, what

21:08

it did was it Not only did

21:10

it was at the beginning of a dynasty

21:13

that we we we've all taken

21:15

part in creating and building, but

21:19

it was the beginning of the way

21:21

basketball is played. Yeah, and

21:24

that to me, like

21:26

I always look back on that and like I

21:29

always say, like I had the opportunity

21:32

to play with in my mind,

21:35

the greatest team ever as symbol. And

21:38

one of the reasons I feel that way is,

21:41

yes, we were dominant, Yes

21:44

we won championships, all that way, all

21:46

that was great, but it

21:48

changed the way the game was played

21:52

in around the world.

21:55

You gotta you gotta give yourself credit to Dre.

21:57

I mean there's not Steve came

21:59

in, you know, to allow you to

22:02

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22:04

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22:07

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22:10

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22:14

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22:17

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22:19

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22:21

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22:29

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22:31

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no one dred percent. I appreciate that,

23:57

you know. For me, I always say, like, man,

24:00

the match couldn't have been better made in Heaven with

24:03

my with my skill set and what

24:05

I excel at, what I love to do on the

24:07

basketball court.

24:09

I don't care to shoot the basketball

24:12

like I will shoot.

24:14

I'll take the shot if it's there,

24:17

But like my whole life,

24:19

I've never really cared to shoot.

24:21

And I've spent many years

24:23

of my life as a scorer.

24:26

I have the ability, but it

24:28

never like I never got off on shooting

24:30

the basketball. I always felt better getting

24:33

an assist, and we

24:36

know that you are the total opposite that you

24:39

must try to get the.

24:40

Buckets, but

24:43

I'll pass.

24:43

But I always said, like

24:46

the pieces couldn't have fit

24:49

better together, and your

24:51

skill set my clays, I

24:54

mean Stephs skill set and my

24:56

skill set, but not only the skill

24:58

sets are meters

25:02

could have never fit better

25:05

together. Like I am

25:07

more outspoken, I'm more in your

25:09

face. You're

25:11

more like, this is what I'm doing.

25:14

Follow me here. If I get

25:16

pissed off, I'm gonna let you guys know, because

25:18

ultimately I want to win. Steph

25:21

is more lead by example.

25:23

I'll speak up, and you know, as

25:26

it's he's grown, both of you guys speak

25:28

up more and more. But

25:30

I'm not gonna be in your face about it. And

25:33

and what it did

25:35

is you

25:38

know, Bob always will say, man,

25:41

it's incredible that you guys still sit together

25:44

like But I think one of the biggest components

25:47

to that is because

25:49

we were so different than those aspects.

25:53

It created a

25:56

larger appreciation for each other, a

25:59

space where or we never bump ass because

26:01

I'm not in your lane, You're not

26:04

in steph lane, He's not in

26:06

my lane. So there's never like any

26:08

situation where there's a bumpheads and

26:12

like there's

26:15

never any pressure for you to be me, for

26:19

me to be Steph, for Steph to act like

26:21

you, like it's all no. I

26:23

know who you is, you know who Steph is, he

26:25

know who I am, and vice versa,

26:28

and with that there's an appreciation

26:32

for that, and

26:34

that to me is

26:36

what I feel like has been more.

26:38

Special of this whole Agree.

26:40

I agree. You look at teams where it's

26:42

like so much time together it's

26:44

just ridiculous.

26:46

Like y'all, y'all

26:48

too.

26:48

In particular, I've

26:51

seen you too, more than anybody

26:54

I've seen in my life in the past twelve years.

26:56

Yeah, you know, with the time that we've spend

26:58

together, the success that we've at

27:00

and it's been an absolutely incredible

27:03

journey. I'm

27:05

going to ask you a question that it's

27:08

not on it's not on any of this, but

27:12

i want to ask you this question, and I

27:14

want to ask it because I'm afraid of the answer,

27:19

and I've never asked

27:21

the question. There'd

27:23

be two people I've asked the question too, in

27:25

particular, and

27:29

it'd be you and step not

27:35

really anyone else. But

27:38

I'm very afraid of the answer. But

27:41

be brutally honest with you. When

27:45

I get ejected or something

27:47

of that nature or suspended, what

27:52

do you feel, how do you feel?

27:53

What like? What are

27:55

your thoughts?

27:57

Uh?

27:58

When dre well,

28:02

please.

28:02

Be brutally honest with me. It's going to crush me, but

28:05

I need to hear it.

28:08

Well.

28:11

I mean, it's

28:17

it happens. I mean, you

28:20

know, Andre, you're kind of a kind

28:22

of a throwback player. Not a lot of you

28:25

know, not a lot of guys. I mean, the the NBA

28:28

is very different than it was, say, twenty

28:30

years ago, thirty forty years ago, where

28:35

back then it felt like a nightly

28:37

thing, where it was just so physical.

28:40

Now in the twenty twenties, times have changed.

28:43

We see each other so much. The basketball

28:45

world is small, from the grassroots

28:48

level through college all the way to pro

28:50

kind of know everybody, and

28:53

I know, I always know your intentions

28:55

are good. You're one of the greatest winners

28:58

in the history of basketball at every

29:00

level, So that trumps

29:02

any statistical output you could

29:04

ever have, whatever, triple double, whatever

29:07

record. The one that means the most

29:10

of me is that winning

29:12

percentage playoffs regular

29:14

season, one of the greatest winning percentages

29:17

of NBA history. So

29:20

when you're not out there, it's

29:23

like a piece of us is gone. And

29:27

me and Steph are really nice guys,

29:29

like probably too nice,

29:31

you know, and we

29:34

could never be ourselves

29:36

and have the freedom that we do on the court without

29:39

you. So when

29:44

you're not out there, it's kind of like a huge

29:46

kinking on armor. And I

29:49

know the other team is very

29:51

happy you're not out there. I just know

29:53

that for a fact. They're like, they

29:57

can they relax a little bit, they let

29:59

their hair down, they they

30:01

feel a little bit more like they pump

30:03

their chest up a little more because you

30:07

know, our muscle's gone on. Enforcer, the

30:09

guy, the heartbeat of our team is not out there,

30:11

and so it

30:14

does hurt. But at the end of the day,

30:17

we've been through so many battles, reached

30:20

the mountaintop, been

30:22

down the mountain, had to climb back up, got

30:25

there again, and

30:28

now we have another real shot at this

30:30

and it's been like a couple of tough years,

30:33

but still we're still fighting.

30:35

We're still we're still in the mix.

30:39

So it

30:41

does hurt.

30:41

It could be disappointing in the moment, but it

30:44

will never take away from what's

30:47

ahead of us and what we've done.

30:49

So at the end of the day, we

30:52

just need you.

30:53

And that that that like disappointment and that

30:55

feeling of just like shaking

30:58

your head, that just comes from dang,

31:00

man, we can't do this without you. So

31:03

we uh, we

31:05

love you and we need you so badly,

31:07

and these young guys need you too, because Steph and I

31:09

are we're leaders, but we don't

31:14

talk the game like you do.

31:15

We don't inspire these young guys like you do.

31:17

And even when Kenny calls on you

31:19

in film and there's there's gonna

31:21

be a void there always if you're not out there, and

31:24

we're not the Warriors without Money Green.

31:25

That's just a fact that you can ask.

31:27

Anybody in the Bay

31:30

around the world who's followed this team. We

31:33

would not be the does without you. So that's where that

31:36

like like dang not

31:38

again, that's where that comes from. And just like, man, it's

31:40

just hard to start to do it without you.

31:43

Bro. I appreciate that.

31:45

Man. Oh that took a

31:47

lot from me. Yeah,

31:50

but I appreciate that. And you know, I

31:52

think for me, like you

31:55

know, you go through these moments, you

31:59

know, like.

32:01

And I don't think this would be that big a deal, say

32:03

like four

32:06

or five years ago. But there's just such a magnifying

32:09

glass in our team nowadays. I

32:12

mean, I think we're the highest value

32:14

basketball team in the world. So

32:16

with that comes credible

32:19

media coverage, sensational.

32:20

At times, and.

32:23

When you're a Hall of Fame player like yourself, people

32:27

are gonna love to tear you down.

32:29

You know, that's gonna.

32:32

I've seen that in every generation of basketball,

32:34

whether it be Dennis Robmin,

32:37

my favorite player, Rashid Wallace, you,

32:40

the media and fans, the pundits, they

32:43

just love to point the finger,

32:45

especially when you're at your weakest. So can't

32:50

we just can't let that to tear us from what we got

32:52

to do, no doubt.

32:53

Rather than that, That's where I'm at with it obviously.

32:56

Like I said, I.

32:58

I think for me personally, when these

33:00

things happen, like

33:06

the thing that I think about the most

33:08

is you and Steph. It's like, fuck,

33:11

I can't help those guys, Like I can't be out

33:13

there with them, like that's

33:16

all I care to do, you know.

33:18

It's like be out there with you guys.

33:20

Set screens, defend, find

33:23

you guys like with great

33:25

passes to get you all shots, but

33:29

more importantly just be out there with my brothers,

33:31

like competing with the guys that I've competed

33:33

with my entire NBING career for the last

33:35

twelve years, one championships with And

33:40

I'm a work in progress and work

33:43

continuing to working to better myself.

33:46

But I appreciate you and stuff,

33:48

you know, for always sticking with me, being right

33:50

by my side no matter what. That

33:53

brotherhood I don't take for

33:55

granted at all. And

33:59

speaking of which myself,

34:04

you have a free agency

34:06

coming up this summer, and you know, and speaking

34:09

of plan with you know you for the last

34:11

twelve years, with Steff for the last twelve years

34:13

and what we've built here. Things

34:17

change, you know, the NBA changes, cap

34:20

situations changed, this thing changed,

34:22

that thing change. As

34:24

you go into free agency

34:29

this summer, what's

34:32

a priority to you as

34:35

you look at you know, the next three, four

34:37

or five whatever you decide you want to play,

34:40

as you look at kind

34:42

of the last segment of your

34:44

career, if you will, what's

34:46

important to you as you embark up

34:49

on that.

34:50

I just can't believe it's here. Like when

34:52

you're in your mid twenties,

34:56

it's so crazy. You think you're going to play forever,

34:58

really, and you think you

35:01

just maintain that athletic level that seems

35:03

effortless, But

35:06

then as time goes on, you really do realize

35:08

how demanding this job really is,

35:11

and it's so physically demanding.

35:14

And I

35:16

was actually struggling with that a lot at the beginning of

35:18

this year because of the unknown, you know,

35:20

I mean, I might have led contract situations

35:23

or playing time or using

35:26

making up a lot of excuses rather than just.

35:30

Appreciating what is in

35:32

front of me.

35:33

And it took me and

35:35

Steve like four real heart

35:38

to heart talks to finally break my shell,

35:40

being like, you know what, I

35:42

gotta have fun this year. I deserve to have fun,

35:44

Like we worked so hard to freaking

35:48

win these games and play into

35:50

June and.

35:53

Have fans on the road. I mean, my first couple

35:56

of years, there might be a few staff Curry jerseys

35:58

in the crowd. Now it's like a whole contingent in the Warrior

36:00

fans on the road. It's insane. So I

36:03

was kind of grappling with that a lot this year. It's

36:05

almost like your own own mortality is an athlete

36:08

like man, I might not be able to elevate like I once

36:10

did, or I might not slide my feet left and

36:12

right like I once did. But I

36:14

can still be a heck of a player if I just give

36:18

gratitude and keep that perspective, like I'm

36:20

out here balling, because

36:23

that was hard for me these last few

36:25

years, when you're when you go through injuries and

36:28

you're so used to playing at a certain level, guarding

36:31

a certain guy, shooting certain

36:33

shots, and.

36:34

Then you have to adjust all of that. That was

36:36

the hardest part of my career. And

36:38

it's still hard for me, you know, when I'm used to scoring

36:41

twenty five in a quarter, locking.

36:43

Up the best player.

36:44

Now I gotta be pick my spots

36:47

a lot more, just

36:49

precisely, which is fine. I've finally

36:52

come to accept, like, look, I can still be a heck of a

36:54

player. I can still be incredibly

36:56

efficient and as long as

36:58

I'm having fun and being a good tea. And you actually

37:00

helped me a tone when you're like, lean into these young guys,

37:03

lean into the fact you're a vet, you

37:05

made X amount of money, you don't have to worry about nothing,

37:08

Like you're playing for the love of the game. And

37:10

I think once I realized that, and I

37:13

relaxed a little bit, rather than trying to play for a

37:16

contract or an All

37:18

Star not or some accolades, but rather

37:20

just play for the love of the game and

37:22

the fact they get to play cards with the guys on

37:24

the plane. We're playing ping pong last night after

37:27

the game. We're having fun. That's the

37:29

beauty of the game right there. Not trying

37:32

to get another Max deal or another

37:34

endorsement, but just smelling

37:36

the roses and appreciating all

37:38

the work took to get here and

37:41

saying that when it comes to free agency in July,

37:44

I just got to keep that in mind, like, yes,

37:47

I want to resign with the Doves, but I also have to prioritize

37:50

my mental health and you

37:54

know, lay

37:56

out what is important to me at this point in my

37:58

career. And I

38:00

know we have so much basketball ahead that

38:03

I haven't given it much thought, really, because

38:05

if I start thinking about July first, then I'm

38:07

just doing myself disservice.

38:08

I'm not here.

38:09

I'm not thinking about the Horns tomorrow and these muscling

38:11

games this weekend. So for me, it's

38:13

just about staying present, as

38:16

simple as that is. Stay in present and

38:19

appreciating being the NBA because my uncle Andy

38:21

always told me, is like Clay, your careers can go by and

38:23

snap of fingers. So just appreciate

38:26

this life you live. It's

38:28

not a right, it's.

38:29

Really a privilege.

38:30

And you know, Uncle Lenny, he

38:32

been around the game since the last

38:34

Dance, so that helped me a lot as well.

38:37

Absolutely, in

38:43

twenty nineteen, if

38:47

you don't get hurt, do you

38:49

approach your free agency, your whole free

38:51

agency process differently at

38:53

that point.

38:58

That's a big one. If that's a wow,

39:03

Yeah, that was.

39:08

That could have been a definite possibility just

39:10

because you're healthy. But

39:12

at the same time too, if I don't get hurt, and let's say

39:14

we do win a we do three pete,

39:17

it's like you're not walking away from that par You're

39:19

not going to that hasn't been done since Shaq and Kobe.

39:21

So I never would have walked

39:23

away from a chance to stacking

39:25

rings And uh

39:28

man, that was a crazy

39:31

time. That was the worst, man, You freaking you

39:33

know how long it is to play the old the finals. It's

39:35

such a long grind and then like tear

39:38

a ligament and then you got to go right back to the

39:40

gym. There was no vacation,

39:43

So that was a I was very

39:45

grateful for my family during that time because I was just

39:47

kind of lost without basketball and you

39:50

know, being on crutches and just having to

39:53

build all that muscle back in my quad

39:55

and the atrophy.

39:55

That was not fun. Especially after that five

39:58

year Finals run.

39:59

We had a lot of It's

40:01

a lot of just mental

40:04

and physical wear and tear. And I

40:07

don't think, when I really think about it, if I

40:09

was healthy and I

40:12

don't think I would have really tested

40:14

it that hard, just because like it's hard to walk away

40:16

from a dynasty that's.

40:20

Doesn't happen too often.

40:21

Yeah. Absolutely.

40:25

Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, right

40:27

after this, you

40:29

see Captain Clay's born.

40:31

Yes he is.

40:32

You're you're kind of away from

40:35

the team doing your rehab, and

40:37

then all of a sudden you come back around and you're like, yo,

40:39

y'all got.

40:40

To come on the boat.

40:41

Yeah, And we're like what, You're like, yeah, y'all

40:43

got to come on the boat. Like I got the boat up here, I

40:45

got a boat. When you got

40:47

the boat, was that always in your plans to get a

40:49

boat or was that kind of like I'm hurt,

40:51

I need something else to do to kind of take

40:54

my mind, like, what was the process.

40:56

Of that for you?

40:56

Oh, there was always a plan to get a boat, and

40:59

believe it or not, there's a San Francisco

41:01

Chronicle article from twenty

41:03

fourteen or fifteen. Well,

41:05

I'm quoted saying my dream one

41:07

day is to own a fishing boat.

41:10

And it just so happened. I had

41:12

some free time, I got healthy enough

41:14

where I was mobile again in

41:16

twenty nineteen and I pulled

41:18

the trigger.

41:19

I got a big, old sport

41:22

fishing, closed cabin boat.

41:25

And

41:27

everyone was all my family and my

41:29

friends were like, you don't need a boat, you don't know how to drive a boat.

41:31

But I was like, I'm going to take the

41:34

courses. I'm going to take all the steps. I'm

41:36

not going to make any shortcuts because I

41:38

love the ocean. I love having

41:41

that freedom, the freedom to go, you

41:43

know, to Catalina or to freaking

41:47

Sam's Anchor Cafe and Tibron.

41:50

There's just a whole new world out there when you

41:52

get on the water. So I

41:54

was doubted, but it

41:57

happened, and I'm so grateful

42:00

because I've seen a

42:02

whole new side.

42:03

Of the bay.

42:03

Being able to get on the water and get

42:06

out to stints In or

42:08

go up to Delta.

42:09

There's just so many cool waterways.

42:11

And now it's a lifelong

42:13

skill I have as well. So it

42:16

was always a dream of mine ever since I was a kid

42:18

on a boat and become a skilled fisherman.

42:21

That part, I'm not there yet, but I

42:24

got the captain skills down.

42:25

I love it.

42:26

My first time on the boat, I told y'all

42:29

my first time on the boat, I

42:31

can suspend it for coming in grabbing

42:35

dude because he was grabbing clay

42:38

And ironically I.

42:40

Couldn't get to the bay the next

42:42

day.

42:43

Two days later, I was trying to get across San

42:45

Francisco Chase Center.

42:47

The bay bridge was shut down.

42:49

Captain clay E Howesing and CD

42:51

came across the water to Jack

42:53

London. It was a beautiful day.

42:56

It's a beautiful day pulling up to Chase

42:58

by the way to.

42:59

Go to work like that.

43:01

It's nice, isn't it. It's fire, It's

43:03

nice. It's the best. Besides

43:06

like getting shots up and winning basketball games,

43:08

the best part of my day is really just like getting

43:10

the coffee, going to Harbor and making

43:13

my way down south to Chase Center. It's so

43:15

beautiful, man. Yeah, it's the best.

43:17

It's absolutely amazing. A

43:20

couple more questions before we get out of here.

43:23

And you spoke about Jermaine

43:25

O'Neill and teaching you about the business of basketball,

43:29

and I've learned a tone through the

43:31

business of basketball. Jermaine o'nill was represented

43:34

by Washerman. Uh throughout

43:36

his career. You

43:38

are represented. You are Washerman athlete

43:40

as well.

43:42

Uh.

43:43

I've had three agents. My

43:46

third agent is Ris Paul Clutch Sports.

43:48

UH. In my career, learning

43:50

different things along the way and feeling the need for

43:52

something different.

43:53

You've had two agents in your career.

43:56

What was the turning point for you when you decided

43:59

I'm gonna go in a different direction, Like what

44:02

knowledge did you gain up until

44:04

that point to where you felt

44:06

confident enough to

44:08

say, I think I want something different

44:10

at this point in my career and representation,

44:14

What was some of the things that you picked up at

44:16

that time to make you make a

44:18

decision like that?

44:19

Because I feel like representation today

44:22

you get so.

44:23

Many kids like I'm like my

44:26

mom going to represent me, my dad going to represent

44:28

here, this person. It's like, Yo, there's

44:30

a whole business out here that they

44:32

don't have a clue what it means, and it

44:34

kind of goes by the wayside. What was

44:36

that for you at that time to

44:39

make you make the decision? Who's you know now,

44:41

your current agent Grady that

44:43

you've been with since two thousand and what eighteen

44:46

somebody?

44:46

Yeah, seventeen, maybe sixteen

44:48

around there. Wow,

44:51

it's a good question.

44:54

Well, I mean

44:56

I give credit to Bill Duffy as well.

44:58

Bill was an incredible agent. He's been

45:00

a super agent. He's been around the NBA forever.

45:04

I mean.

45:05

Bill was a freshman when my dad

45:08

was a senior at the University

45:10

of Minnesota, So that

45:12

was easy for me. My dad been

45:15

around the game so long. He's like, no, no, no, we're gonna

45:17

go with Bill. So I was like, okay, that's cool. Love

45:20

Bill, and we did great things

45:22

together. He's based out of Walnut

45:24

Creek and he's still a really close friend.

45:26

I know, he's Beatp's agent, so I still get to see him

45:28

and chopping up with him. But

45:32

uh, I think there came a time,

45:34

you know, my sixth year where I was like, you know, we've

45:37

done we've done greatness. We've done great things together.

45:39

But maybe uh,

45:42

I can explore some new avenues, like and

45:48

just trying, you know, grow my brand,

45:51

I guess. And uh

45:54

I met with Greg and I

45:57

mean we just kind of had

45:59

someimilar thoughts of what the

46:02

KT line could become or my

46:05

interests what I could grow those into

46:07

that, whether that be business or philanthropy. And

46:11

that's the hardest part of

46:14

this business is having to have those

46:16

difficult conversations.

46:18

And it

46:22

hurt, like separating with BDA. But at

46:24

the end of the day, like I

46:27

was just thinking, like.

46:31

I kind of want some more

46:33

control over just.

46:36

Just just a company just for me in a sense,

46:38

I guess.

46:39

But it's still

46:41

awkward to even talk about because I feel bad in a

46:43

sense like dang, it was never personal,

46:46

Like I never really meant knew what

46:48

that meant as a teenager or college

46:51

kid when someone's like, it's not personal, it's business

46:54

because you know, emotions are evolved,

46:57

But that's really what it was. And you

47:00

know, I love Build of Death.

47:02

I mean that guys like my dad's

47:05

one of his best friends. They played college ball together

47:08

and it was just a tough switch up really and.

47:13

Had great success since had some back

47:15

then.

47:16

And.

47:17

I don't I'm not the most hands on person.

47:20

So it helps when have

47:22

so many in my corner who like will

47:24

vet a lot of deals

47:27

or bring to the table what they

47:30

think is worthy of my time. And it

47:32

takes a lot to get to that point. I

47:35

wasn't really worried about the

47:40

other ventures until we

47:42

started winning and people started

47:45

noticing us, when we got some national notoriety,

47:47

and then like, Okay,

47:49

I can kind of manage.

47:51

My time a little better.

47:51

I've been in the league five six years now, I know

47:55

what I want my future to look like.

47:58

And that was that.

48:00

It was still it was hard, and it

48:02

was a good lesson for what was to come. If I do want

48:04

to keep continuing to do

48:07

investing in business after basketball, you're

48:09

going to always have to have those

48:11

difficult conversations. And that was the first

48:13

one in my career that was really

48:16

like dang, that was hard to do and it didn't feel good,

48:18

but kind of had to be done.

48:20

Yeah, I respect that the

48:24

conversations is tough. Yeah, man,

48:26

those.

48:26

Conversations do so much together. It's just hard.

48:29

Absolutely, Like

48:31

I said, a couple more we get out of here.

48:35

You and Steph's admiration for

48:38

each other's jump shots.

48:40

I think it's such an honorable

48:42

thing. Steph

48:46

is worldly

48:49

known as the greatest shoot ever.

48:51

And I personally

48:53

think and I think Steph feels the same way. I

48:56

know Steph feels the same way because

48:58

I watch him

49:02

speak on your jump shot, and like the

49:04

way when he speaks about your jump

49:06

shot, the appreciation

49:09

that he has for your jump shot and for you,

49:11

like it just like oozes through his answers,

49:13

like like you just like you

49:15

can feel how much he

49:18

admires your jump

49:20

shot. And so I

49:22

don't even want to ask this question as far

49:24

as in the sense of today, because the reality

49:26

is we're old and like we kind of

49:28

got our routines now, and you

49:31

know, we don't have a million shooting competitions

49:33

anymore like we used to have.

49:35

Like we used to have shooting competitions.

49:37

I used to beat you guys all the time, you

49:40

know, and

49:44

that just don't happen to him, Like we don't do that anymore.

49:46

But like just going back to the days

49:48

and when we used to put play put it on the board,

49:50

you know, and and like all these different games,

49:52

and you guys used to go back and forth.

49:55

You win, he win, you win, he win,

49:57

you win, you win, you win. He went he went like and

50:01

that was it, and like then

50:05

you got hurt. That probably took

50:07

a part in everybody putting their routines

50:09

together. Now everything is so calculated on

50:11

how much you're doing and all these different things.

50:13

That has changed.

50:15

But like, talk to me

50:17

about Yes, his

50:19

admirations, his admiration, but your admiration

50:22

for his jump shot. Like

50:24

you, jump shots are completely different. Yours

50:27

is tighter and more compact and probably

50:29

more textbook than anybody in the world I've

50:32

ever seen. And

50:34

yet you know, Steph's is more

50:37

motion in it, but shoots a million

50:39

different types of ways. Just

50:41

talk to me about his jump shot

50:43

and what is it that you see as

50:47

one of the greatest shooters ever? If they

50:50

say Steph is one, god damnage you too, what

50:53

is it that you see and

50:56

his jump shot that just makes it so

50:59

special?

51:00

Uh?

51:02

I think it's like the force he generates.

51:04

So I'm like, STEP's like

51:06

maybe a buck ninety two hundred max.

51:09

And how I'm just

51:11

like, how you able to shoot from thirty five

51:13

feet so accurately and easily.

51:17

I think it comes from the legs, but he's

51:19

incredibly strong, And

51:21

then how quickly he loads his jumper from

51:24

whether it be from the dribble, off the catch,

51:27

it's insane. I mean, that's

51:30

what I admire, just his ability to

51:32

shoot from all different angles and feet

51:35

positions, Like as long

51:37

as STEP's shoulders are square to the basket, it's

51:39

got a chance of going in. And uh,

51:44

that's where I'm really impressed

51:47

with him, is like you can't

51:50

plan from the drive, obviously, but.

51:54

Just how

51:57

quickly he gets it off.

51:59

One thing I do have on Steph, though, this

52:01

is probably one of the best moments in my life, is when we

52:03

were at the White House in twenty fifteen and mister

52:06

Obama, mister President Obama

52:08

said my jump shot was a little prettier than Steph.

52:10

So that was the one win I have over him.

52:12

I was like, yes, here that Steph,

52:15

mister president likes my jumper more. So that

52:18

was the one time where I felt like I

52:20

had a good win against Steph. I was like, nice, you

52:22

might have a higher three point percentage

52:24

of more makes but you

52:27

know number forty four likes mind a

52:29

little bit more.

52:32

By the way, I.

52:33

Know that still stinks him. When

52:36

when where President Obama said that

52:39

I'm gonna tell you something else, I think still

52:41

stinks how bad.

52:42

Do you think Steph wants to beat you at fourteen

52:45

tah?

52:46

Uh, probably badly. I mean, Steve

52:50

Wan is such a good sport. You know, I could have ran

52:52

that thing up with like sixteen seventeen threes,

52:54

but maybe eighteen. You know, I could

52:56

have even twenty shooting.

52:58

Making twenty threes in a game be insanez

53:01

but uh yeah,

53:05

I know he wants to beat it bad, but he's

53:07

number two, So him

53:10

and Zach.

53:10

A number two, they can stay there.

53:11

Hopefully that record will be broken. No

53:14

records are meant to be broken. So I'm enjoyable.

53:16

I got it, but it's gonna be

53:18

broken one day. But I just hope they've put

53:21

asterisk next to mine, like did it in three twenty

53:23

seven minutes?

53:25

Who breaks it? If you can say right now who

53:27

breaks that record? Who breaks it? Or do we not

53:29

even see that person?

53:32

Man, that's

53:35

a great question. I mean, who

53:37

shoots a high enough volume of threes? Shot

53:40

twenty four threes that game? That's insane?

53:43

Yead?

53:44

I mean, could be Staph

53:47

could be uh, I mean Dame

53:49

Lillard's had multiple games, you

53:51

have twelve three point game in

53:53

the playoffs, could be Dame.

53:56

I mean can't sleep on Zach. He has thirteen

54:01

freaking Booker. That guy's going for sixty

54:03

a few times this year. Devin could do it.

54:07

Uh,

54:11

that's probably shortlist. Maybe Kyrie

54:14

not. That's a

54:16

lot of threes, man, I don't know. Murray

54:19

was close. Keegan Murray was close. I remember watching

54:21

that game. He was very close. He's like twelve or fourteen

54:23

maybe or something. So I

54:26

think it's gonna happen. I just op it stands for a while.

54:28

Yeah, last

54:30

one, number one. I

54:33

appreciate you.

54:34

Oh yeah, no problem.

54:35

This is exciting for me just

54:37

getting here to sit here and chop it on with you. But like

54:39

I said, the beginning more importantly

54:42

for the world, did you see you talk? You

54:45

know, these they don't get

54:47

the opportunity, and I always

54:49

appreciate that opportunity.

54:50

So I wanted them to hear that.

54:52

But before we get out of our last guest on

54:54

the show was Drew Holliday. Obviously,

54:57

Drew comes from a family that

55:00

has multiple NBA players in it, and

55:03

you come from a family your dad,

55:06

yourself. Mikey t multiple

55:08

NBA players in it, obviously saying

55:11

everyone's in their prime.

55:13

Drews say, there's no chance any NBA

55:15

family.

55:16

Who winning these games?

55:23

Who winning these games?

55:26

Y'all taking them easy?

55:28

Oh, it ain't easy because they

55:31

the NBA players.

55:32

But come on now, we've got dogs

55:34

over here.

55:37

My dad and everyone's

55:39

in there pro Wow.

55:41

What does the Thompson's have to say about

55:43

that?

55:43

Don't sleep on Trace either. Tracer is a really

55:45

good player. Trace got recruited

55:47

play D one in high school. We want to stay titled

55:50

together, but he decided to go to the

55:52

MLB route. It's worked out great

55:54

for him. Traces would

55:56

be a great sub man.

55:58

Me and my dad will be a nice two

56:00

man game, you know. Yeah, he was twenty and ten. Guy

56:03

was a bucket on the block, great defender,

56:06

quick for a big man. Then

56:09

Mikey, you know, Mike and his prime great

56:11

athlete, had a couple

56:13

of coffee in the league, played

56:15

overseas national team for the Bahamas,

56:18

and we got to play the Holiday brothers.

56:21

They are definitely more They're quicker than us

56:23

between Aaron, Drew

56:26

and Justin.

56:29

But I think with my.

56:31

Dad on the block, I think we could beat him up a

56:33

little bit on the block.

56:33

And he's got me and Mikey kicking out for threes.

56:37

That'd be a good one. The Lopez twins

56:39

would be tough too.

56:40

The Griffin brothers, a lot of the Right brothers,

56:42

a lot of great NBA brothers.

56:45

The kurt are too little, just

56:48

got too little. Oh

56:51

yeah, they got Dell too. I forgot. I got

56:53

a lot of shooting.

56:53

Huh hmm, the Nance

56:56

Larry and his father. Yeah,

57:00

I'm taking the Thompsons just just for family's

57:02

pride sake. I'm sorry Holiday

57:04

family and all the other NBA

57:07

families.

57:07

I'm taking the Thompsons. We have the most versatility.

57:09

I think I respect that. Yeah, probably

57:12

the most rings too.

57:15

Yeah, between I think so six

57:18

between my dad and I.

57:19

Yeah, it's pretty good.

57:21

Pretty much, Mike, he got one in twenty twenty

57:23

two.

57:24

Did Yeah, you got a

57:26

league cruise, the only time

57:28

the NBA team and the G League

57:30

team won a title in the same year.

57:32

Exactly.

57:34

Yeah, there's rings in there.

57:35

The hardware, man, my

57:37

brother.

57:38

I appreciate you coming on the show, man, It's

57:40

been a long time coming. I can't thank

57:42

you enough, and not just for coming on

57:44

this show, but what you've meant in my life for my career.

57:48

You know, I never imagine uh

57:51

becoming who I've become in this league,

57:53

and I do not take for granted

57:56

at all. Like you know, I oftentimes

57:58

get like, if you ain't playing with Stephan Clay, like

58:01

you wouldn't be shit.

58:03

Yeah, And I'm like, well,

58:05

you can't rewrite the history books.

58:06

People like, what are we doing? Okay,

58:10

great?

58:10

I know the Chief

58:13

and Kevin Kale you know.

58:15

So I'm always like, okay, cool.

58:17

But the reality is is

58:19

regardless of how much someone can say that,

58:22

someone will say that, I would agree

58:24

with them every time.

58:25

I don't care.

58:26

Uh, it does not make me feel

58:29

a way at all because I'm so thankful

58:32

because the reality is regardless of what

58:35

people have to say about me. And if

58:37

I didn't play with y'all, we had to

58:39

work to make this shit happen. It

58:42

just wasn't like, oh, I'm this player and you're that

58:44

player and stuff this player great.

58:45

It worked like now.

58:47

We had to work and go through the wringer

58:50

to actually make it happen. And I'm

58:52

forever grateful for you two

58:54

guys and the

58:57

journey that we've been on for the last

58:59

twelve years. And

59:02

I hope nothing more than for us to finish

59:04

this whole thing altogether and

59:07

be sitting there when you get your

59:09

statue at Chase, when Steph

59:11

get his statue at Chase, and

59:13

when they come sit the Bible ahead of me, right

59:16

next to y'all. I

59:18

look forward to those days, man,

59:20

because right

59:22

next to y'all just super

59:25

bow it to the ground so nobody can take my

59:27

biblehead away and it will

59:29

be just fine with my brother.

59:31

I can't thank you enough, man.

59:32

Appreciate that yes reminisce

59:34

sometimes Yes, sir.

59:36

That's a rap from this episode of The Draymond

59:38

Green Show.

59:40

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