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Dose. I recall two
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Or. Die. That may
1:00
an exaggeration, but trust me, your teeth
1:02
don't just help you chew rude. They're
1:04
surprisingly important. For. Your general health
1:07
and so is your oral health in
1:09
general. With all the talk about publicly
1:11
funded dental care. Maybe. The Federal
1:13
government know something you should know to. So
1:15
this week we are asking how does the
1:17
health of my. Mouth affect my overall
1:19
health. I other welcome to the dose.
1:22
I am so pleased to be with
1:24
you. So what's your first thought? When
1:26
you hear the phrase floss or die. Well,
1:29
it, you know it. It's a
1:32
most extreme circumstance. It may be
1:34
true, but I just think it
1:36
might be. Slightly exaggerated
1:38
however it it gets attention and
1:40
it just as an indicator that
1:42
your oral health is part. Of. Your
1:45
overall health which is why we have come
1:47
to you as an expert to help us
1:49
on this very important subject. But before we
1:51
begin can you give us a hi? My
1:53
name is tell us what you do. And.
1:55
Where you do. It. I'm. Doctor Heather
1:57
Care. I'm the current President of.
2:00
Canadian Dental Association and I'm
2:02
a practicing general dentist in
2:04
Halifax for almost thirty six
2:06
years. What? Are some of the
2:08
tangible benefits of taking care of your oral
2:10
health? Is interesting. I just
2:12
back a few weeks ago it
2:14
was World Oral Health Day and
2:16
the same was actually healthy most
2:19
healthy body. So a healthy most
2:21
became. Myleene blogs you the
2:23
smell and taste properly. You can to
2:25
with a pain. If you're both, it's
2:27
healthy, you can followed properly. It allows
2:30
you to convey emotion and improve your
2:32
self esteem. You're able to smile and
2:34
talk with open self conscious so it's
2:36
a very important and such an easy
2:39
prevention is so easy for a healthy
2:41
meal. And
2:43
water is some of these specific
2:45
health benefits that we know from
2:47
evidence. That. Come from taking
2:49
care of oral health. Wasn't. Most
2:52
common is diabetes. I
2:54
quite often. In my pace and
2:57
family will see diabetics and
2:59
they're They're on. Control they often
3:01
have a lot more problems with come. To
3:03
these and on rare occasions to I've
3:05
been able to recommend a go see
3:07
their medical doctor because I get somebody
3:09
who's been in relatively. Good oral health.
3:12
And all the sudden has a lot
3:14
of gum disease, a lot of swelling
3:16
in a bleeding and so that's a
3:18
very important link and a very similar
3:20
like we find sometimes with Hiv patients.
3:22
They have a lot of issues with
3:24
their. Guns and gum disease. So.
3:26
It's actually a marker for you, so if
3:28
you see somebody with a lot of gum
3:31
disease you know they got other risk factors.
3:33
You're thinking diabetes. I certainly want them to
3:35
rule it out. And as it's
3:37
for if you get something I usual. Or
3:40
somebody comes into me new and they
3:42
seem to have more gum disease and
3:44
I would anticipate for their age and
3:47
other issues in their health in others.
3:49
Other things we diagnose at times or
3:51
at least and to a specialist: oral
3:54
cancer. You know stores in your mouth the don't
3:56
heal. For a couple weeks. Quite often,
3:58
these individuals. Have other risk factors. For help
4:00
or just tobacco use or excess alcohol
4:02
and the other thing with cancer of
4:05
any sort is the impact of chemotherapy
4:07
and sometimes radiation on your own health.
4:09
Quite often we recommend if a patient
4:11
know they have to undergo chemo that
4:14
they come in and see the dentist
4:16
first because it's very limited treatment we
4:18
can do with their immune. System
4:20
is depressed. And in other cases
4:23
depending on where the radiation field as a can
4:25
impact their sell their glance and make their mouth
4:27
tried have other issues. Let's. Talk about
4:29
some of the problems that can occur
4:31
if people aren't taking good care of
4:33
their teeth. What problems, For instance, can
4:36
most bacteria cause. Well, the most common
4:38
ones in my chair and the dental
4:40
chairs. His tooth decay. It's a two
4:42
days. It's probably one of the most
4:45
common diseases that we have and it
4:47
is very preventable. We see, as I've
4:49
mentioned already, we see gum disease. We
4:51
see oral cancer. There's just so much
4:53
of it to the reason that is
4:55
so important to have a healthy diet.
4:58
Avoid the sugar. Make sure you're coming
5:00
into your check out have your plane
5:02
is done. So much of it can
5:04
be prevented if you're. Having regular care
5:06
for your teeth, And. Of course,
5:08
the bacteria inside the mouse can
5:11
cause dental abscesses and sometimes the
5:13
bacteria can get into the bloodstream
5:15
man to the heart valves on
5:17
the lungs. Kathy. Is. Interesting
5:19
because with the things that we know
5:22
that a dental disease impact in our
5:24
overall body is a mirror to what
5:26
may occur, but it's a two way
5:28
street to. There's so many factors involved,
5:31
but definitely we certainly and the most
5:33
serious cases effect did Terry Get to
5:35
the bloodstream? Individuals get bacterial and decried
5:37
as know it is rare thankfully. but
5:40
if you have certain Valdis isn't your
5:42
heard other conditions you be more prone
5:44
to that. and there's certainly indications that
5:46
it can increase the risk of pneumonia.
5:49
And with also seen some studies that
5:52
are showing low birth weight or preterm
5:54
babies with. Individuals with gum disease.
5:56
One. Or the dental procedures that are
5:59
most likely to. Hi bacteria in your
6:01
mouth, around your teeth to leak out
6:03
into the bloodstream. If your gums and
6:05
teeth are healthy you have very low
6:07
risk that if you're as somebody who
6:09
has a lot of gum disease or
6:11
we call a on or disease with
6:13
a lot of build up when you're
6:15
having those cleans if you haven't had
6:17
one after several years is certainly could
6:19
introduce as and occasionally if you're having
6:22
a difficult fillings and more often extraction
6:24
those are the times the people have
6:26
to be aware. Is certainly.
6:28
I recall dimly from my medical school
6:30
days that there are heart valves that
6:32
are particularly at risk. And they're the
6:35
ones for which you need to take
6:37
antibiotics before you have a dental procedure.
6:39
One of the heart valves the your
6:41
most concerned about as a dentist that
6:44
you want to make sure your patients
6:46
are are taking antibiotics. It does
6:48
get updated and there is a list
6:50
conditions that we use the antibiotics pre
6:53
medication for. One that might surprise people
6:55
outside the hard as we have some
6:57
patients coming into a joint replacements and
6:59
they anticipate they should have antibiotic before
7:02
they have dental procedures and in many
7:04
cases they don't need it if their.
7:07
Overall in good health so there's a
7:09
very very. Elastic St list and we
7:11
try to follow that as careful as we can and had.
7:14
Been. Updated not too long ago. What?
7:16
Role does saliva play in keeping
7:18
our mouths healthy? Oh, it's
7:21
critical medications as we get older
7:23
and certain autoimmune conditions can dry
7:25
individuals mouth. And we tend to
7:27
see more cavities because your saliva base
7:29
your teeth and it helped keep things.
7:32
In or moving cleaner. Soviet
7:34
dry most you're much more prone. To
7:37
having gum disease and cavities so if
7:39
you're automatic case and I always suggest.
7:41
People have you have dry mouth of. A medication you have
7:43
to take. It's just. The a water carrier
7:46
always have water in out to substitute
7:48
and there are salary substitute that you
7:50
can buy in local pharmacies as well
7:52
that are effective for some individuals. You.
7:55
Certainly I know that whenever I see
7:57
my dentist my dental professional I'm ask
7:59
each time. Medications are you on? Are
8:01
you on the same medications? One of the
8:03
medications that your most concerned about. That would
8:06
decrease the flow of saliva? I know. certainly
8:08
the technical term would be Eddie Call an
8:10
urgent medication. So certain kinds of anti depressants,
8:12
antihistamines for instance one of the medications are
8:15
concerned you the most. Probably a big one
8:17
that I see as fair as the My
8:19
Door and let people tall. I have a
8:21
fluid. Pills, water, pills Guy Erratic yeah. Saw
8:24
that that's a big one. The other
8:26
thing even five or medications is better.
8:28
Pause can quite often lead to a
8:30
dryer mode, so that's another a side
8:33
effect that individuals to have to deal
8:35
with sometimes and are. Very careful
8:37
of people are on certain world
8:39
chemotherapy. Agents or radiation that can also. Try
8:41
it, you're out. In. The Emergency Department I
8:43
see patients all the time who have to Takes
8:46
we have dental residents were bill which is a
8:48
really good thing to habits. Sometimes at night when
8:50
they're not around I've had patients are coming who
8:52
asked me to pull a tooth. Which.
8:54
I don't do. As. Why
8:58
is that a bad idea? In general
9:00
when people ask for t to be
9:02
removed, it's about I did actually remove
9:04
it other and month ago we are
9:06
talking. There's multiple risk factors for the
9:08
certainly a correlation or relationship. Between
9:10
loss of teeth and actually a.
9:13
Shorter life expectancy. There's
9:15
multiple factors just practically
9:17
speaking. If you lose
9:19
t it causes. Difficulties.
9:21
When you to your food an individual
9:23
to lose all their teeth and either
9:26
weird fold enters or of know dentures
9:28
can quite often have. Poor nutrition if
9:30
they have difficulty navigating them, especially in
9:32
later years in their life. So. When
9:34
it's possible, and when it's reasonable. It's
9:36
much better to maintain your teeth. You.
9:39
Know kind of reminds me that dental
9:41
implants or naughty you should not be a
9:43
luxury item. What role do you think?
9:45
Dental implants my play and helping stave off
9:47
some of these problems that come from
9:49
losing teeth. It's interesting because I mentioned
9:51
earlier I've been out for with thirty six
9:53
years and there's been a lot of
9:55
advances and I think dental implants or one
9:58
of the greatest. Advances. And
10:00
as you say, there is definitely
10:03
cost involved. But. If. You
10:05
can replace a tooth with an implant and you have
10:07
to be in good health. You know I will
10:09
be mentor the diabetics if you're an uncontrolled diabetic. You
10:11
may not be able to get an implant
10:13
are you have other health issues they've You
10:16
can possibly are in a position to replace
10:18
a message to the implant is a game
10:20
changer in the dental world and as well
10:22
as helping you to it also maintains the
10:24
position of your other teeth and helps protect
10:27
them all. That so it's it is. I
10:29
agree with you as a it is a
10:31
wonderful and positive addition in the dental world.
10:34
You've. Mentioned chemotherapy for cancer treatment
10:36
and that can have an impact
10:38
on oral health. Are. There other
10:40
conditions that you're particularly concerned about.
10:43
When. You're treating patients in your practice.
10:46
Absolutely Well, we did mention that. There's
10:48
auto immune disorders such as Rogan Syndrome
10:50
which causes dry mouth as well as
10:52
have another you know impacts. On your
10:54
overall health and if you think about something
10:56
like eating. Disorders, for example, Billy
10:59
Mia quite. Often if somebody has
11:01
to severe case. Even. If
11:03
they don't self disclose we will see it
11:05
their teeth A road they have. Significant.
11:07
Were on the inside to their teeth,
11:10
their guns or irritated. Bad. Breath
11:12
which is not pleasant. There's different.
11:14
Issues, but those are to the come to my
11:17
mind right off the top of my head. That's
11:19
interesting, like in of course everybody's wearing masks so
11:21
very hard to smell the odor of somebody his
11:23
breath. But if somebody does have halitosis as bad
11:25
breath are you using that A clue to figure
11:27
out what other diseases they might have. Well
11:29
it depends that I'm right, You're right.
11:31
I have. I'm asked to a fifth
11:33
of dealing with the patients that. I
11:36
go by their descriptors. But
11:38
there's certain if your mother's dry.
11:40
That definitely cause health. As as
11:42
I mentioned, menopause sometimes contributes to.
11:44
At any of the medications that contribute
11:46
to the dry mouth and not having
11:48
regular cleanings and not cleaning your teeth
11:50
properly yourself with us it's funny. It's
11:52
back to the basics. floss brush in
11:54
a get your teeth cleaned because if
11:56
you haven't had a cleaning and you
11:59
tend to get. Lot of build up in
12:01
your teeth that. Definitely can create. The.
12:03
Halitosis as well and sort of in a
12:05
more. Extreme. you would be more aware. This as
12:07
a physician, but certainly and diabetes
12:10
if there's like ketone breath. It
12:12
I would be that would be more extreme as up very
12:14
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Mentioned Radiation I wanted to elaborate
12:50
on that. What does radiation due
12:52
to the mouse? That. Might
12:54
affect oral health. In. The case
12:57
of the radiation, the biggest side
12:59
effect will occur if the Philo
13:01
radiation involves the head neck because
13:03
if it impacts. Them you're solving glance of
13:05
we just talk to at how important to live
13:07
as. And drives, you're both. Oh,
13:09
and also, if you know it tires people
13:12
and so if you're tired and you're not
13:14
feeling well, then you're oral hygiene. Yoda. Things
13:16
that you do to keep healthy may be
13:18
set aside for a while, and it doesn't
13:21
mean. They go away. They just as though
13:23
they are as time passes. You've.
13:25
Got everybody's attention right now. What are the
13:27
best ways that we can protect our oral
13:29
health? We have risk factors which
13:31
overlap with overall health, which is why
13:33
we're talking about this today. You know
13:36
you have a healthy diet. minimizes sugar
13:38
intake. That's going to help. Tooth.
13:40
Decay if you avoid tobacco products
13:42
and access our to halt the
13:44
tobacco products are related oral cancer
13:46
and it also can be trying
13:48
to your mouth and certainly access
13:50
alcohol will draw your mouth and
13:52
is a risk factor for all.
13:54
Cancer is so much prevention. If.
13:57
You can get in. To.
13:59
Your dentist. Then I don't regularly
14:01
for cleaning and have the dentist
14:03
check your teeth so you can
14:05
catch things that early. And if
14:07
you're also able to, I still
14:09
recommend that people. Try to during fluoridated
14:11
water. Because it is a great public
14:13
health measure which at positive impact on
14:15
the rate of decay or cavities. Does
14:18
fluoridated water help older people are? or?
14:20
is that something That's that's mainly of
14:22
value when you're just starting out in
14:24
life. That's an interesting question and
14:26
I don't have the detailed study on hand
14:29
that would prove it one where the other.
14:31
I certainly think it's a positive. We do
14:33
find as individuals get older we tend to
14:35
use fluoride varnish because when we get older
14:37
our roots are exposed and those roots are
14:39
much more prone to cavities. So I use
14:42
that as a treatment and many of my
14:44
i'm older patients who have to deal with
14:46
that to decrease the amount of decay they
14:48
have of it's valuable and and sometimes a
14:50
different way. but I certainly to be no
14:53
harm in heavy fluoridated. Water all throughout your
14:55
life. It would be a positive Fear: Dental
14:57
Health. I. Read an article very recently
14:59
that suggested that there's little evidence the
15:01
twice yearly gentle appointments are necessary and
15:03
I want to get your thoughts on
15:05
that. How frequently to we need to
15:07
see a dentist in order to maintain
15:09
our oral health. I think
15:11
that is different for every single individual
15:14
Some people are find once a year,
15:16
other people I see every two to
15:18
three months. We were just talking about.
15:20
Elderly patients are older, patients were fruit
15:22
exposure and very young children with a
15:25
high rate of cavities. I'll see
15:27
them every two or three months to give
15:29
the fluoride burnish. There's other. Individuals who
15:31
with they have they diabetes. And
15:33
they have a lot of gum disease that
15:35
they did have Cleaning at least cleanings if
15:37
not assessments. every three to four months you
15:39
know you have to look at the individual
15:41
and what can happen is the sale. Have
15:43
somebody come in is a new patient. they'll
15:46
have a lot of Candid is a lot
15:48
of build up, they haven't had regular care
15:50
or bring them back and for a four
15:52
month and will reassess. maybe at that time
15:54
they can move up to six months checkup.
15:56
I think the six months is just a
15:58
reasonable average for most individuals. That I really
16:00
think you need to talk to your dentist about
16:02
what is right for do have are want to
16:05
spend a couple of. Moments Talking about
16:07
Geriatric dentistry. we have a course
16:09
in aging population. We have more
16:11
and more people who have dementia.
16:14
T talk about some of the
16:16
particular challenges of treating frail seniors
16:18
perhaps with or without dementia and
16:20
how that affects the work that
16:22
you do. I always say
16:24
that a patient with the special need is
16:26
just another patient as well. Have special needs
16:28
of some sort by you are right. There
16:31
is challenges in many cases. It depends on
16:33
how much help to get home care. If
16:37
you have a caregiver especially
16:39
in and say deserve. Some.
16:41
Of these diseases such as Parkinson's or dementia,
16:44
it makes it much better. You know if
16:46
there's somebody who can get you into the
16:48
dentist or provide care you need. Daily.
16:51
That's critical but if to be patient and
16:54
caring and if you fit into service relationship
16:56
I find it helps because I certainly over
16:58
my thirty six years my patients are aging
17:00
with me as some of the were or
17:02
the me to start and there's have a
17:05
my favorite pieces to see but. They
17:07
certainly struggle, as. They get older
17:09
and there's ways around manual dexterity
17:11
even if you're trying to care
17:14
for yourself. And it's sad that.
17:16
As individuals get older they may have had them
17:18
about of it's and lose them or their income
17:21
plummeted and then I don't get to see them
17:23
as often. The time in your life when you
17:25
need the most care and you need the most
17:27
help. Is. When I stopped
17:29
to see them as regularly and then then
17:32
we're dealing with something, it's very challenging. It
17:34
is a difficult situation and I know that
17:36
it takes a lot of special care, but
17:38
it's well worth it. You.
17:40
Mentioned having a companion. When people have
17:42
dementia, one of the things they may
17:44
stop doing is taking care of their
17:46
teeth. Yes, and when that happens. I
17:49
assume the trouble follows absolutely.
17:51
And and these are individuals
17:53
who under normal circumstances. For.
17:56
Years and years would be impeccable
17:58
about oral hygiene. And in
18:00
some cases physical limitations which prevented if
18:02
a person has a stroke or as
18:04
other issues like that. So when you
18:06
talked about how often do I need
18:08
to see patients those are the type
18:10
the patients I need to see more
18:12
often as an individual who is a
18:14
quadriplegic and in a motorized wheelchair and
18:16
you know I see her every two
18:19
to three months and verb. Basically.
18:21
Brushing her teeth your thumb brush. It
18:23
is getting done in between but you
18:25
know they need that frequent care so
18:27
that we can keep them from losing
18:29
teeth, are having pain. So.
18:31
What do you do for somebody like that? The very
18:33
best we can. Or. Something Could have lived
18:36
on their own in a group home. So they
18:38
have their mother for. Many years you probably
18:40
was. Very diligent but family ties
18:42
to the caregivers. You give them
18:44
instructions and really just try to
18:46
get the men as frequently as
18:48
possible. do a thorough cleaning the
18:50
first and also has a tendency
18:52
this that. Her most sought solace
18:54
is a success. It's all of these
18:57
days I died but you know we
18:59
just your very best and find strategies.
19:01
Each day is a success because if
19:03
we can get that. Plaque.
19:05
Offer Teeth and Keep Her teeth. Alfie
19:07
Allen put some varnish on them to
19:09
keep the back terrier bay and repeated
19:11
as often as possible. Finally,
19:14
You heather! We don't usually get political
19:16
on the show, but in this case
19:18
will make an exception. for people who
19:20
don't have access to a dentist. How
19:22
much are you hoping that the new
19:24
Federal Dental Care Plan can help people.
19:26
As part of they can a
19:28
Dental Association in A We've been
19:31
advocating for access to care for
19:33
these individuals for years and so
19:35
I'm very excited that the Cdc
19:37
p you will hopefully provide access.
19:39
There are some concerns because it
19:41
has to be downright. you know
19:43
we have to make sure that
19:45
the patients are treated well. Because
19:47
of this is really a once
19:49
in a lifetime opportunity disinvestment. There
19:51
are several elements in this plan
19:53
that have raised concerns among the
19:55
demo profession. And we're still waiting for
19:58
details. Believe it or not, even though it's. To
20:00
start. In May, so I'm cautiously
20:02
optimistic. The minister health has had
20:04
several conversations with us and we're
20:07
hoping that will bale to move
20:09
forward and get these pieces the
20:11
care they need. You know we're
20:13
lucky in Canada in that two
20:15
thirds of Canadians get good care.
20:18
Primarily. Through Dell insurance and self funding,
20:20
but we really need to healthiest one third
20:22
the don't. Have. Access to care to make
20:24
sure. That they they have the good or ill
20:26
health that they deserve. Let's hope the
20:28
government is listening to professionals like you.
20:31
Doctor Heather Car, thank you for speaking
20:33
to us on the dose. Always happy
20:35
to talk about newport topic like this.
20:37
Thank you for having the Doctor Heather
20:39
Car is the President of the Canadian
20:42
Dental Association and a general dentist has
20:44
been practicing in Halifax for thirty five
20:46
years. To pseudo smart device,
20:48
oral health has a direct bearing on your
20:50
overall health. The milk contains lots of bacteria
20:52
and other germs. Tooth decay and gum disease
20:55
can cause infections in the mouth which can
20:57
spread to other parts of on. Poor
21:00
oral health is linked to heart
21:02
disease, stroke and pneumonia in pregnant
21:04
women gum or ginger will, inflammation
21:06
and infection has been linked to
21:08
premature birth and low birth weight
21:10
is a strong connection between diabetes
21:12
and or gum disease is more
21:14
prevalent if people who have diabetes,
21:16
diabetes leave the body less able
21:18
to fight infection and for the
21:20
games at risk like white people
21:23
who have gum disease have a
21:25
harder time controlling their blood sugar
21:27
levels. Regular dental care can improve
21:29
diabetes control. Hiv
21:31
Aids can lower the body's ability
21:33
to fight infection and make oral health
21:35
problems worse. Germs who
21:38
federal Cabinet or a frequent cause
21:40
of into her Dies which is
21:42
an infection of the inner lining
21:44
of the heart valves. Gum disease
21:46
has also been linked to cancer,
21:48
so the mouth, gastrointestinal tract, lung,
21:51
breast, prostate and uterus saliva is
21:53
important for good oral and general
21:55
health Medications that lower the flow,
21:57
saliva and increase risk include Decongest
21:59
Harriet the Means, Pain relievers, Water
22:01
Pills or Direct and Eighty to
22:03
prove to protect your oral health.
22:06
Take care of your mouth everyday.
22:09
Brush your teeth at least twice a
22:11
day for two minutes each time as
22:13
your tongue as well replace you to
22:15
say every three to four months for
22:17
sooner if Russell's are warm or flair
22:19
out. Clean between your
22:21
teeth daily with lots of other products. Your dentist
22:23
can tell you. Eat
22:26
a healthy diet and limits sugary
22:28
foods and drinks. Don't use tobacco
22:30
and drink alcohol. Modern. See
22:33
your dentist at least once a year
22:35
for checkups and cleaning and for your
22:37
dentist knows the other diseases. You have
22:40
and the medications you take see
22:42
your dentist right away if you
22:44
get pain of leading inside the
22:46
mouth or if you have authors
22:48
and source of the don't heal
22:50
quickly. As dementia gets worse people
22:52
tend to neglect they're all house
22:54
those with parkinson's disease and other
22:56
conditions that of that mobility may
22:58
find it difficult to take care
23:00
of that he for them paying
23:02
special attention to sugar intake and
23:04
more frequent visits to their dental
23:06
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23:08
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