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You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show
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on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome
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to the program. It's our two in this Monday,
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Dan and the Dan n Stan Patrick's Show, as we always
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do every Monday, Best and Worst of the weekend. What
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you saw that you liked you didn't
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like? A lot to digest over
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the weekend. Ram's Buccaneers coming
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up tonight, Joe Burrow out for the season.
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Steelers improved to ten, and oh big question
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marks attached to the Baltimore
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Ravens who have a short work week. They
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get ready for the Steelers. Thanksgiving.
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Taysom Hill with a nice debut. College
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football, Northwestern beats Wisconsin,
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Ohio State survives Indiana,
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and Florida State taps out of the Clemson
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game. Speaking of that game,
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Clemson made the trip, they
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had set up a tent, they were going to do
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all the testing, they were going to get ready. They
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needed this game against Florida State, and
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then Florida State decided to tap out.
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And here's Dabo Sweeney talking about
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that decision. He was not pleased
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and said, we offered the test again,
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play Saturday night, Sunday Monday,
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and it was declined. We
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spent three several hundred thousand dollars
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three hundred plus thousand dollars
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to travel. We set up a
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Ringling Brother's tent, took
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an entire parking lot to
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do what we have to do to meet
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the standards. We had people travel
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from all over the country to come to the
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game to see the game. We
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met the standard to play and we should have played.
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We have mitigated everything all year
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long, all year meetings,
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practices, meals, housing,
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how we travel. If
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the standard to play was zero positive tests,
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then we would have never had a season. This
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game was not canceled because of COVID.
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COVID was just an excuse to cancel the game.
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And to be honest with you, I don't think it has anything to
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do with their players. I have no
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doubt that their players wanted to play and
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would have played, and same with
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the coaches. To me,
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the Florida State administration forfeited the game,
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and if they want to play Clemson, in my opinion,
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they need to come to Clemson or they need
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to pay for all expenses. Other than
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that, there's no reason for us to play him. We
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were there, we were ready, and we
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met the standards. Dabo
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calls out Florida States saying they just didn't want
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to play Clemson, but there
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are numerous reports that the cancelation
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shows a major weakness in college football's
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protocol due to the timing of
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the test. Dabo doesn't come off
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as very sensitive here with player's safety,
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but he does have a point with you got
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on a plane to go down there, you spent the
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money to go down there, you set up safety
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protocols, you were going to do testing when you got
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there, and was it one
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player that made you nervous, Because
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if you're waiting for zero percent, it's
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not happening zero test, positive
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test. I mean, that's not going to happen right now,
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not at this late stage in college football.
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But the ACC canceled
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this game and Dabo Sweeney won
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some answers there eight seven seven
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Drafting quarterback Joe Burrow appeared to be a
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stroke of luck for the Bengals franchise, and
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this is a team that hasn't had much luck in recent
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years. But Burrow is out
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now. He hurt his knee on Sunday, gone
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for the rest of the season. He had a strong rookie
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season, and the Bengals were interesting.
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You can have teams that are good
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but they're not relevant. You can have bad
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teams that aren't relevant. The Bengals
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aren't a good team, but they were relevant because
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of Joe Burrow. There was something
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there. He was, you know, the face
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of college football. Then he goes to the Bengals.
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He's averaging forty pass
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attempts per game, and that came
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back and haunt him because
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he got hurt, got sacked
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yesterday and he's done for the
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rest of the year. But it
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felt like the Bengals were asking him to do
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a lot. It's one thing just to play
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the position, it's another thing to play
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it well as a rookie, and it
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felt like they were asking him to do herculean
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task here. And the
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key is he had the talent to throw
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it forty times a game, But did
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they have the talent to protect him from
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throwing at forty times a game? Was it
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a question of if? But not when he was
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going to get hurt with that exposure there
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the number of times you get hit as a quarterback,
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not sacks, the number of times you're getting
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hit. But Joe Burrow
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hopes to pick up where he left off. He had a great
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tweak. Can't get rid of me that easily. I'll
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see you next year. And he
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had had a great start
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to an NFL career. Justin
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Herbert yesterday, I know it's against the Jets,
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but he looks very
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calm, cool, and you
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know, some of those passes really
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beautiful. And I just didn't see
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that at Oregon. I didn't know if he the consistency
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to be this kind of quarterback athletic,
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good arm, but to have, you
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know, to fit it into tight spaces, because
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quarterbacks will tell you in the NFL
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you throw somebody open. It's
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not like college where somebody's open, you're
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throwing them open. And Justin Herbert,
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he is emerging now as your rookie
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of the year. Tuah. It's
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this is a learning
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process, a longer road for Tuah.
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And you saw that yesterday got sacked six times.
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Denver did a great job. They brought in
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Ryan Fitzpatrick, and you
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can say, well, wasn't performance based why I got
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benched. It might have been a safety precautionary
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move with Brian Flores. Maybe
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it was a combination of both, but bringing
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in Ryan Fitzpatrick to me, gives them a better
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chance to win this year. But you want to find
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out what you have with your quarterback. And Ryan
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Fitzpatrick is expendable too,
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was not. Yeah, po I looking back at the Justin
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Herbert draft bios and there's there's two years
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of them, because everyone thought he was going to go out
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a couple of years ago and he did. Remember, he
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came back to Oregon and people thought he's gonna be the
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number one, number two pick of the draft
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two years ago. And then but then
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he kind of cooled off or maybe people moved
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on to other quarterbacks Borough, et cetera, et
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cetera. And then when he came out last year or
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you know in April, people a lot
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of the draft reviews say more of a
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project, there's there's work to be
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done with accuracy, etc. But it was he
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was a lot hotter the year before. Well
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that's usually the case, is when these guys go back
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for one more year, then all of a sudden, we get
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one more year to really dissect them,
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and then they never live up to that billing.
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You know, like Dwayne Haskins. If Haskins
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had stayed at Ohio State and granted he might have
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put up fifty touchdowns again, but
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we would have a chance to nitpick a little bit more.
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By the way, Justin Fields draft Stock
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took a little bit of a hit against Indiana.
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He didn't look good at all and
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Indiana played well. Indiana
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in Columbus going toe to toe.
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That was That was one of those I know, you don't
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get any credit for moral victories here.
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That felt like that was more of a loss
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for Ohio State. They won the game, but
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they took a little bit of a hit. Nashally, I think, yeah,
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McLevin on Justin Herbert, are
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we doing it again where we're telling everybody
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that a rookie quarterback is great? Because I'm thinking
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if Carson Weds was the truth, there was a second
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year but I was so convinced that there's
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no way you can miss and kinda Baker Mayfield
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is a rookie and he hasn't missed. But I
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feel like we just not you. But like
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everybody's jumping on Justin Herbert is the
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real deal now and we still don't know where
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the career is going. Oh I don't know how good he's going
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to be, but I can't appreciate with what he's
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doing. I mean, that's I'm
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not amazing. I'm not over hyping him as
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much as I'm just I watched the game
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because if you watch highlights, then I think
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you your mind gets filled
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with something different, where you go, Wow, that guy's
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incredible. Well watch the game
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and see what he does. What happens
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if he throws an interception, what does
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he do the next series? Or if you
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know, he throws a touchdown, how's he react?
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How do his teammates react to him? Like, I just like
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to see the context of a
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quarterback playing the position, not
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just hey, here's another touchdown and
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there's another touchdown. That's not a
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great indicator of how good a quarterback
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plays. And watching him yesterday,
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I know it's the Jets, but I
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there's a calmness to him. It
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just is Joe Burrow the same way
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too. I'm not comfortable with right now.
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It's going to take the rest of the season, and
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even then I probably won't be as comfortable with
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him. But Joe Burrow Man,
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it felt like he could make something happen every
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single play. And the same with Justin Herbert. Yeah,
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mclub, I'm not really saying you there's others
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in the media who are really annointing him
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that it feels like he's flavor of the
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month. Well, I've done this for a long, long
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long time. In other words,
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I'm old and I've seen this where
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you go, that guy can't miss, that guy
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is unbelievable all
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sports, and
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somebody will say, oh that guys, okay,
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they can miss. They do miss. It happens all
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the time. They are more misses than makes
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you know, far less successful stories
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than you think. And I just
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admire what I see. It's you
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know, Lamar Jackson loved
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what I saw, loved him in college, and
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I thought that the Ravens got a steal. But
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I was probably the first person to say
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earlier this year that a scout said people
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in the NFL still aren't sold on him.
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It didn't mean I wasn't rooting for him or I don't
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like him. It's just I give you
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the reality of this. I don't have any
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fandom. I'm not you know, based
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in any you know fan base that
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you know. I grew up a Bengals fan, so you
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can't say I'm a front runner. But
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I just think that we're still looking at Lamar Jackson
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and we want to see what he does when he doesn't
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have a great offensive line. We want to see
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what he does when his team is behind,
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because he's a great front runner, unbelievable
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front runner last year. But when
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his team is behind or he's
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missing some parts there, that's
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what I want to see because
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that's when you see a quarterback be able to
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improvise make up for something. They
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do something different, they manage the game differently.
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That's when you get a true sense of a quarterback.
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And Lamar Jackson right now has
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not been great, has not been good at
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times. They're predictable and
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they get bullied around. They got pushed around by
10:26
the Titans yesterday. Now
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they you know, they got to figure this out
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real quickly. They got the Steelers coming
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up and this is a
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hugely important game for them. Dan,
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I don't want to sell anybody out, but there's a guy in a back
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row who would almost guarantee the Steelers
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lose this wing. Okay, it just feels
10:46
like everybody the way narratives are, this
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is this where the Ravens bounce back against their arch
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rival. I know they struggle against the Steelers, but
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based on nothing except a second game, and
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you know, we're all hyping up the Steelers. Yes,
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yeah, this is where I have those moments where
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I go, I don't know why I like this team,
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but I like this team. This is the NFL.
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There's probably like seven games a year
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where I go, I don't know why I like this
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team, Like the Vikings beating the Packers
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a couple of weeks ago. I
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just said, I don't know why, but I like
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that. I like the Vikings to beat
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the pack There's no reason for it other
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than it's the NFL. And sometimes you just
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have those weeks where you go, what happened? What
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just happened here? And I don't know if
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that's going to be the case. What are
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the Steelers favored by in this game? Oh?
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Efforty? Okay, what else
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do you have? By the way, were you shocked that the Vikings
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lost the Cowboys? I feel like that wasn't a shock
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for some reason. Well, the Cowboys did
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play well. Andy Dalton played well, Zeke Elliott
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played well, Amari Cooper got
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reintroduced to the NFL. Kirk
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d Cousins played well. I mean their
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skill position guys played well. Theeland
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played well. It was just one of those shootouts
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where I will send
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it up, you know, having the ball last and
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winning the game. So was I surprised
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a little bit because the Vikings
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had been playing well, and you know you have
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Dalvin Cook running the ball, feeling in
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Jefferson and Kirti Cousins
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throws for three hundred yards. If I said all of those
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things happened, I would have said, oh, of course
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they're gonna win. Yeah, Paul, here are your Thanksgiving
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games. Twelve thirty pm. Eastern Texans
12:23
Lion Yeah, Houston given two
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and a half. Yea naptime
12:27
all right, Washington versus the Cowboys
12:29
four thirty pm. Eastern Cowboys given
12:32
two and a half. And then your
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primetime game eight twenty pm. Eastern Ravens
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versus the Steelers. Steelers
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giving three and a half, which means it's basically a pick
12:41
them. Okay, Rams Buccaneers
12:43
coming up tonight. A
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couple of interesting things yesterday from
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some of the action. Sean Payton six and oh with backups
12:53
to the last two seasons, which pretty amazing
12:55
what he did with Teddy Bridgewater and then Taysom Hill.
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We'll check in with the Saints coming up. Here's
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another one. The Jets have been officially eliminated
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from playoff contention, but the loss and
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the Colts win. Since nineteen ninety
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in terms of weeks, week
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eleven is the earliest the
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Jets have been eliminated from playoff
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contention. Previous
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earliest elimination came in week twelve
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of nineteen ninety six and twenty fourteen.
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Congratulations Jets, And
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they took a lead six nothing and
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you know, against the Chargers, and I thought, Okay,
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is this is this the kind of game the Jets
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win? And then I go, now, they're the Jets.
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They can't they can't possibly do this,
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can't possibly screw this up. Something
13:39
else that stood out to me the Packers have blown
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leads of seven, ten and fourteen points
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in each of their last three losses.
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That's not a coincidence. Feels
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like it's a little bit more habit forming here.
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But yesterday against the Colds, you know,
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they were up two touchdowns, and I
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give the Colts credit, it came back,
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although they didn't let the Packers come down, tie
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it and go into overtime and a
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lot of penalties, I mean, the holding calls.
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It's just it's it just
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ruins the flow of a game. And
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it felt like the officials were pretty good the entire
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season where they weren't nitpicking. But
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I'm watching that game and I'm going I
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expected a holding call, and
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it's rare. You don't go into a game. You're
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watching the game, you go, yeah, wait for another
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holding call that game. I
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just thought when there wasn't a holding call, I went, I'll
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be damned, there's no holding call, or
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just felt like, hey, they're not going
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to do it all
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right? Uh, let me see a couple of phone
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calls here, fill
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in Indiana. I fail. What do you have for me today?
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Hey, Dan, it's always a pleasure body. First off,
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I think that Jets have already been eliminated from
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next year's playoffs as well. I'm pretty
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sure, say real quick,
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Dan. My worst of the weekend was Doug Peterson's
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comments after the game. He said,
15:02
replacing Carson Wentz sends
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a message to your team that you're quitting
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already. At what point, Dan, I
15:08
want to get your thoughts. I mean, when do you replace
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him at three ten and one, three twelve and one.
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Because I'm looking at that schedule, Dan, I
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don't seem any more wins on there. And by
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the way, Dan, thanks for everything. Happy Thanksgiving
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to you and yours as well. Thank you, Phil. I always
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appreciate your phone calls. Here
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Here is Doug Peterson, the Eagles head coach,
15:25
on benching Carson Wentz. If
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you get to that spot, whether you don't
15:29
start him or your bench, I think you're you're
15:32
sending a raw message to your football team
15:34
that the season's over. And and
15:37
that's a that's a bad message. And you
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know, we have to we have to work through this times.
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You know, when when when times get tough, it's
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you know, sometimes that might be the easy thing to
15:47
do. You know, sometimes
15:49
you do it for Carson Wentz that
15:52
maybe you let him step back and
15:55
watch the game, you
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know, not go out there and just continue
15:59
to make the same mistakes and let's
16:01
see what you have. And Jalen Hurts, I
16:04
mean the Saints did that with Taysom Hill.
16:06
I know it was with an injury. Carson
16:08
Wentz has got a bruised ego. Maybe
16:10
sitting on the sidelines, let him, let
16:13
him watch a half a game, see what Jalen
16:15
Hurts does. Maybe you get a spark from
16:17
Jalen Hurts. They're still in playoff
16:19
contention with some so they're
16:22
in the playoffs right now, they
16:25
they will host a playoff game if they
16:27
win their division. They
16:29
could be hosting like the Rams,
16:32
or they could be hosting the Buccaneers.
16:35
You know these teams that don't win their division. Imagine
16:37
that you're you're the Buccaneers, you don't win your
16:39
division, or the Rams, and then you have to
16:41
go play the Eagles. Yes, I'm
16:43
looking at the odds right now. The odds are
16:46
that the team that wins the NFC East will
16:48
have six victories as of right
16:50
now, based on how all the math works
16:52
out. Who plays whom? Whom?
16:54
Six and ten and
16:57
you're hosting a playoff game or six
16:59
nine and one? Yes, yeah, I'm glob
17:02
I'm very confused as to which bandwagon
17:04
I should be on because I got the Red Rifle in
17:06
Dallas. But I grew up an Eagles
17:08
fan. But this Eagles team is
17:10
it's hard to root for them right now. The
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we have the poll question? Then we're gonna take a break. We'll
17:42
check in with the Saints. I put up on which team should
17:44
be most panic after their loss on Sunday,
17:47
runaway winner Baltimore Ravens, but
17:49
not far behind them the Green Bay Packers. Yeah,
17:51
the Packers was a little more alarming. From
17:53
the standpoint of it looked like they had that game
17:56
in total control. But as I text
17:58
you, guys, I think the Colts were two and a half
18:00
point favorites and all of a
18:02
sudden it went into overtime and then they
18:04
were driving. And I said, keep in
18:06
mind the point spread is two and a half
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and the kick is good. Take
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stream us live on the Peacock app. The
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Ravens wide receivers have the fewest
19:50
receiving yards in the NFL this season,
19:53
one and eighteen yards per game. Yesterday
19:55
there wide receivers had
19:57
seventy receiving yards
20:00
total. And that's a big difference. Though
20:02
this is a great front running team, and
20:04
I know that that sounds strange to say both teams
20:07
would be good front running teams. Baltimore was
20:09
unbelieable last year. Once they got up, they
20:11
never let you, you know, they never let you get off
20:13
the map. They were wonderful. And
20:16
this year they haven't been able to do that. If they don't
20:18
get out in front of you and they have to play catch up,
20:21
they don't have the offense the system right now
20:23
to be able to do that. He's Mike Triplet,
20:25
ESPN NFL Nation reporter
20:28
covering the Saints. I saw where Taysom
20:30
Hill gave himself a BB plus after the game.
20:33
What great would you give him Mike, Well,
20:36
it depends that are grading on the curve
20:38
of the expectations that were sold for him,
20:41
then it would be then it would probably be an eight
20:43
plus. But that's fair. He
20:45
missed a couple of throws, actually completed
20:47
a forty four yard or on one of the throws he missed,
20:50
But then he had a couple that would have made it even more
20:52
specially complete a fifty seven yard touchdown
20:54
pass that was called back by holding.
20:56
But look, I think this was proof not
21:00
that he is the next Steve Young, not
21:02
that he's even going to be the Saints next starter
21:04
after Drew Brees retires, but that he's not
21:06
just a gimmick and that he can be a pocket
21:09
passer with running ability. Sean
21:11
Payton wasn't making all this stuff up or
21:13
just trying to show off when he kept saying he believed
21:15
he could win with Taysom Hill a quarterback. Was
21:18
Sean Payton gloating post game? Not
21:20
as much as we all would have liked, I think,
21:22
but at least one
21:25
retweet of Roddy White, the former
21:27
Falcons receiver, who I think when Sean
21:29
Payton retweeted that cold take, he was sort
21:32
of choosing the one that would represent
21:34
all of the cold takes that he would be up all
21:36
night if he was looking for all of them. I
21:38
didn't think they were going to go with Taysom Hill. I
21:40
just thought that Jamis Winston made the most sense.
21:43
And I'm not rooting against Taysom
21:45
Hill or the experiment there. It
21:47
just felt like maybe Jamis Winston, under
21:49
the tutely to Sean Payton and Drew Brees,
21:52
was going to be able to manage a game a little bit more
21:54
intelligently and not take chances there.
21:57
What does Taysom Hill like as Taysom Hill
22:00
is this week to week or is Taysom Hill there
22:02
as long as Drew is out, Well,
22:04
it's hard to envision them doing anything
22:07
week to week now. They're not afraid
22:09
of some subterviews. They obviously kept
22:11
this a secret as long as they could last week,
22:13
so it wouldn't be the most surprising
22:16
thing I've ever seen if there is a out
22:18
of nowhere Jameis Winston game plan one
22:20
day, but I think the more likely
22:23
ideas that they stick with Taysom Hill, because look,
22:25
this wasn't a huge surprise in the
22:27
grand scheme of things. I mean, they did just pay Taysom
22:30
Hill two years, twenty one million dollars in
22:32
the off season, a couple months before they ever
22:34
even signed Jameis Winston in the first place, and
22:36
they've been talking for years about Taysom
22:38
Hill being next in line. It actually, you
22:41
can make an argument would have been unfair
22:43
to have Winston leap frog him. This is
22:45
his fourth year in the system and he's been waiting
22:47
his turn, and Peyton said he deserves this. The
22:49
only reason I thought they might stick with
22:51
Winston is because I thought it might be a harder
22:54
midseason transition to Taysom Hill. I thought
22:56
maybe it would have taken more than one week
22:59
to game plan for Taysom Hill,
23:01
change the offense around him. But I
23:03
think two things happen. One, we
23:05
saw that Sean Payton has had these Taysom Hill
23:07
ideas in his mind for a long
23:09
time. There are a lot of Hill plays
23:12
in the playbook. And two, he was more of a pocket passer
23:14
than anyone expected. There were a small
23:16
amount of design runs and
23:18
he stood back in the pocket quite a bit. Now,
23:21
one of those touchdown runs was on a design
23:23
pass play that broke down, which
23:25
is an element he brings. But they're not just relying
23:27
on his legs when he runs this off. But what I
23:29
didn't understand, Mike, is that Sean
23:31
Payton basically said, look, we have to find out
23:33
what we have in Taysom Hill. At
23:35
this point, you still don't know what you have in
23:38
Taysom Hill, well,
23:40
not necessarily, And you know he didn't
23:42
come out and say that openly. I think that was a
23:44
source attributed to him. But I
23:46
think it's a combination of two things.
23:48
It's their
23:50
belief that he could potentially replace
23:52
Drew Brees as a starter is genuine. So
23:55
if you are someone who really believes that,
23:58
why wouldn't he be the guy that you put into
24:00
this situation. You can't just keep putting him
24:02
on hold and keep him as a maybe
24:04
they need a starter this week. If they believe
24:06
in Taysom Hill, why shouldn't he be the starter. What's
24:09
the update on Drew Brees? The
24:12
latest he came out and he told Edwarder that
24:14
he is optimistic he can come back after
24:16
the three weeks he's required to miss with
24:18
injured reserve. So many unknowns with this
24:20
injury. You can't just look up, oh yeah, you know,
24:23
punctured lungs always take four weeks. You can't
24:25
do that. I'm sure there'll be a lot of medical
24:28
updates, but we do know that he's going to be determined
24:30
to come back, and that optimism
24:33
that he expressed after talking to a lot of
24:35
doctors makes it seem realistic he could do that
24:38
before the regular season. Is why does this injury
24:40
get worse? It feels like every other day like they've
24:42
added, has another broken rib taken
24:44
place? Here? He's got eleven,
24:47
Mike, Well, you know he
24:49
wants to do everything to the fullest.
24:52
Brady is going to come out and say he
24:54
broke ten ribs,
24:56
but that number where Brady couldn't
24:58
catch him. But do you think that all of
25:00
this happened on that one sack?
25:03
It felt like he was prior to this, right, He's
25:05
been open about the
25:08
latest reporting or what he told Edward
25:10
was that eight of them were on the left
25:12
side, which was a previous injury,
25:15
and three of them were on the right side, which was
25:17
the new injury. Now, he had been playing through that and
25:19
playing pretty well. He'd been on the injury
25:21
report at the shoulder injury, so he had obviously been feeling
25:23
some discomfort, but until
25:26
all the swelling went down. They didn't actually go in
25:28
and count each rib fracture. It's
25:31
great to talk to you. Mike. Certainly
25:33
got a big story there with Taysom
25:35
Hill and then the return of the Saints. I thought
25:37
the defensive line won that game. I thought the
25:39
pressure they put on Matt Ryan was
25:42
really the difference maker in
25:44
my opinion. Yeah, that's three weeks in
25:46
a row for the defense. I mean he saw him on Sunday
25:48
at Football thirty eighth three over Tampa. They were
25:50
playing great, and that was the case last year when Teddy
25:52
everybody remembers Teddy Bridgewater went five and I
25:55
was the Saint starter. Defense was playing a big
25:57
role in that as well. Thank you, Mike, Thank
25:59
you. That's Mike Triplett, ESPN NFL
26:02
Nation reporter covering the Saints. The Saints
26:04
now eight and two, and then you have the
26:06
big game with the Buccaneers coming up against the
26:08
Rams. By the way, I mentioned Lamar Jackson
26:10
and the Ravens. They're great front runners, and
26:12
Lamar Jackson's career starts, including
26:14
the postseason, the Ravens are nineteen and one
26:17
when they lead after the first quarter, six
26:19
and eight when they're tied or trailing.
26:22
After the first quarter, stat
26:24
of the day, stat of the day, that
26:27
past stat of the day, stat of
26:29
the day, here comes
26:32
that what stat of the day.
26:36
By the way, mcleovan, let me go back to the Eagles.
26:38
Didn't the Eagles sort of set this
26:40
up by drafting Jalen Hurts.
26:43
Yeah, so if you have this much
26:45
confidence in Carson Wentz, then
26:47
why are you spending a second round draft pick on a
26:49
quarterback? Because now we go, well,
26:51
you spend a second round pick on
26:54
Jalen Hurts. Let's put him in here. If Carson
26:56
Wentz is struggling, if you don't have Jalen Hurts
26:58
in there, you didn't draft him, and
27:00
you have just a regular backup
27:02
here. You know, Case Keenum. Are
27:04
people clamoring for case Keenum to go
27:06
in there. They want what they don't know
27:09
about, you know, the possibility
27:11
of Jalen Hurts. He can run, he can
27:13
throw. Okay, good
27:15
luck with that. But they set
27:18
this up where we would be questioning, Hey,
27:20
is Jalen Hurts the guy who should be going in
27:22
for Carson Wentz. I have
27:25
no idea why they did. Is it a little bit like the
27:27
Patriots with Jimmy Garoppolo just
27:29
having a high end backup that maybe could be draft
27:31
capital. Is that. I have no idea.
27:34
I will
27:36
say when I watch the game that Carson
27:38
Wentz is playing the worst football of his career,
27:42
right, and Doug
27:44
Peterson admitted that that he's playing poorly.
27:46
But you can't say if I bring in Jalen
27:49
Hurts for Carson Wentz, it would be telling
27:51
the team that they were giving up on the season.
27:54
If you leave him in there, you could
27:56
be giving up on the season as well with the
27:58
way he's playing. So I'm not quite sure
28:00
I understand it.
28:02
It's not like Hurts is gonna come in and there's gonna
28:04
be another skill position guy or another offensive
28:07
lineman who's gonna come in and help him
28:09
there. But would the
28:11
offense be worse if Jalen Hurts
28:13
goes in there, because it feels
28:16
like that's what Doug Peterson is saying, that
28:18
the offense might be worse. But
28:22
I don't know is it play calling. It
28:25
feels like there's a lot of things involved here with
28:27
Doug Peterson. I
28:30
hope he enjoys that statue outside
28:32
the stadium there. Yes, there's
28:35
a lot of people of Phil you say, Frank Reichs doing amazing
28:37
in Indianapolis. He was the offensive Cordair on
28:39
the Super Bowl team. Maybe that's the problem.
28:42
Yeah, it could be. I
28:44
just think it's easy to lay
28:46
this at the feet of Carson Wentz. Carson
28:48
Wentz is not playing well at all. But
28:51
you can't you can't say it feels
28:53
like you're giving up on the season
28:56
if you leave Carson Wentz in there. If
28:58
I at least try something new,
29:00
then it feels like I'm actually trying
29:02
to do something that will change
29:05
what these outcomes are. I
29:08
mean, if they're out of the playoffs, would they be going
29:10
with Jalen Hurts And I believe
29:12
they would be. But because you're in the
29:14
worst division in the history of football, you're
29:17
gonna leave Carson Wentz in there. Yeah. Po. The
29:19
other thing I noticed yesterday you mentioned Phil Rivers.
29:22
I think the Colts got the ball back on a turnover late
29:24
in the game and Rivers was in the blue tent getting
29:26
checked out because I think his heel or his ankle got
29:29
hit. Rivers ran on the blue
29:31
tent. He like knocks half the blue tent over. He
29:34
could barely run when he's perfectly healthy and optimal
29:36
conditions. Phil rivers as a running and now he's
29:38
hurt. He can't find his helmet. He's scrambling, yelling
29:40
at people, give me a helmet. He's running on the field. It
29:42
looked like his pants runs up to it was a great
29:45
A couple of phone calls in here. We'll check
29:47
in with Chris Mannock's Top of the Hour. There's
29:49
a lot of basketball decisions made over
29:51
the weekend, some that I really liked
29:53
and some I got some big questions about.
29:56
Now we know why Gordon Hayward said
29:58
I'm gonna turn down thirty four million dollars
30:00
from the Celtics because I have
30:02
somebody who pay me thirty for four years
30:05
individually. Do you think do you think he
30:07
was getting thought he was getting pranked. When Mike
30:10
Jordan goes, Hey, I'll give
30:12
you a thirty million for four consecutive
30:15
years, he probably thought, Wait, Geordan's
30:17
gonna give me four years at thirty
30:20
thirty million dollars total. All right,
30:22
I'll consider that. No, No, thirty million
30:24
each year? What per what?
30:28
What? Yes? I'll
30:30
take that. Mike, uh,
30:32
Paul and Iowa, Hi Paul, thanks for holding
30:34
best and worst of the weekend. Hey,
30:38
two best of the weekend, both from
30:40
Iowa. First off, Iowa State blanks
30:42
Kansas State forty five
30:45
zero. Breese Hall staffs
30:47
hold up against any Heisman candidate per
30:50
game this year if you look at it. Other best
30:52
of the weekend an hour south of where that game was played
30:55
is where Kyle Corbs from in Pella, Iowa.
30:57
And he's going to Vatican City to
30:59
talk to the Pope with the other NBA
31:02
players for social justice. Thanks
31:04
all right, Well, thank you, Paul. That's
31:06
a road trip going to the Vatican
31:09
there. I did not know that. Yeah, the Gordon
31:11
Hayward deal and went whoa, Jason
31:14
Tatum got paid, Donovan Mitchell
31:16
got paid, Anthony Davis
31:18
is going to get paid. But I
31:20
like what the Lakers did, even
31:23
getting Marcus Saul. You
31:27
know, Shrewder coming in
31:30
Harold, you get him from the Clippers. They
31:33
got younger, they got better. I
31:35
like it. I like it a
31:37
lot. Yeah, mclovin, quick case for Gordon
31:39
Hayward. This is not based on eyeballs, but I did
31:42
look up his sets. He shot fifty percent from the
31:44
field. That's really really good for a wing player.
31:46
But he was like the fourth option there Ray in
31:49
Boston. Well, you're gonna bank
31:51
on him being healthy, and
31:54
you know, maybe he's snake bit in a
31:56
little bit. But four years, one twenty
31:59
eight million dollars. He signed that with
32:01
the Celtics in twenty seventeen. At
32:03
the time, he's twenty seven years of age. He was
32:05
an All Star and had a
32:07
great medical history. Since
32:09
then, he's missed one hundred and eleven regular season
32:11
games, thirty one playoff games, and
32:14
he's also three years older. They
32:18
gave him a four year, one hundred twenty million
32:20
dollars contract. Wow,
32:24
okay, Yeah, mclough Mannix had
32:26
a tweet about how if you can shoot, you're
32:28
getting a lot of money, because he put out Joe Harris
32:31
and Davis Burton's and bogged out about it all
32:33
getting like eighteen to twenty millions of dead. Yeah,
32:36
you missed your window, I know by a long
32:38
shot. You know who's gonna get paid. Duncan
32:41
Robinson of the Miami Heat. I
32:44
don't know if he's eligible next year.
32:47
Duncan Robinson, who
32:49
was a Division three player Williams
32:53
College, could end up making twenty
32:55
five million dollars a year. I
32:58
mean, Joe Harris got paid. Duncan
33:00
Robinson is one
33:02
of the top five three point shooters
33:04
in the game. Kids,
33:07
learn how to shoot a three. You don't have to dunk. Just
33:10
learn how to shoot. That's
33:13
all you need to do. Just be
33:15
able to get the shot off. Shoot the three. Don't
33:18
need to worry about duncan trust
33:20
me, dunking
33:22
doesn't mean you could play. Yes, mcclu
33:24
can you ask Mannix who some of these people who've got sixty
33:27
million dollars contracts are. I'm be like at
33:29
the Jeremy Grants. Some Malik Beasley's to
33:31
Christian Woods. Well, Christian
33:33
Woods was in Detroit. Yeah, and he's actually
33:35
a good player. Yea, yeah, I signed
33:37
with Houston. There. Let me get another
33:39
phone call in here, Kyle in California. Kyle,
33:42
always great to hear from you. What do you have for me today?
33:45
ADP this
33:47
weekend? Oh my goodness, holds me
33:49
off no worse. The Cowboys
33:51
unbelievable. I can't believe it. The Lakers
33:54
went from let me say this, Dwight
33:56
Howard, Dovell McGhee, Danny
33:58
Green and Rosan Rondo and turn that into
34:01
Dennis Schroeder, Montrese, Harold
34:03
Marcus sol and Wesley Matthews and
34:05
everybody. Oh, Montrese. He got run off.
34:07
Hey, he's going to be the backup center baby,
34:09
because we got Anthony Davis. So I
34:12
hate to say it, Skip Bayless those all caps
34:14
tweets. He's in trouble Lakers this year.
34:19
Thank you, Kyle. They
34:22
got better. They did,
34:24
they got better. I
34:27
get sneaky that they got better.
34:30
You know the rest of the league is, you
34:32
know they're trying to I said
34:34
this as soon as that confetti came down in Orlando.
34:37
I said, Lebron's thinking, who do I add on this
34:39
roster? I
34:42
swear in my heart, in my gut, I
34:44
feel like at that moment he's got the confetti
34:46
coming down, he goes, all right, who am I going to
34:48
say goodbye to on this roster? Somebody
34:51
get my phone. I gotta start calling people here.
34:55
But you get a chance to play with him, Anthony
34:58
Davis chance win
35:01
a championship. I was surprised
35:03
that Montrez Harrold came, you know,
35:06
from one side of the building to the other side of the building.
35:08
It's a nice pickup for them.
35:11
And then you get shrewder in there, got
35:13
younger. I hate losing
35:15
Rondo just because of the postseason,
35:19
losing Avery Bradley, But I
35:21
think the Lakers did pretty well. Yeah, Pong, It's not like
35:23
you have to worry about facing Rhindo in the playoffs next
35:25
year though, with the Hawks no offense.
35:29
Let's take a break. We'll give you our best and worst
35:31
of the weekend run after this. Thanks for listening to
35:33
The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to
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35:37
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35:47
Oh mclovin just compared Rush
35:50
to Ario Speedwagon.
35:53
Yes, the song fly by Night, which
35:55
Paul is of course talking about Rush,
35:58
and he played the song fly by Night. It's got
36:00
a little Ario Speedway. It's a bit poppy for Rush.
36:04
Is that bad to be Ario Speedwagon? That's the debate
36:06
over here. So
36:10
this is fly by Night from Rush.
36:13
I know what he's saying. Kevin Cronin from Rio
36:16
Speedwagon and early Getty
36:19
Lee have high pitched voices,
36:36
all right. I
36:40
could I could hear Kevin Cronin
36:42
singing this. I
36:45
don't know if I would you dare compare? I don't know. If I'd
36:48
pick this, I'll say I couldn't choose
36:50
between I can't can't fight this feeling
36:52
or keep on loving you or take it on the run.
36:55
What about heard it from a friend? Who from
37:00
a friend? Okay,
37:03
another human listen around fantastic
37:13
falsetto prog rock the
37:15
scary part. If Todd likes it,
37:18
it's not any good, It's incredible,
37:21
all right. Neil
37:23
Parrott, the drummer from
37:25
Rush, the recently
37:28
deceased Neil Perrott. You could buy his drum
37:31
kit from the early seventies for a round
37:33
one hundred thousand dollars in auction. Sounds
37:35
like a good investment, Paulie, Like
37:37
I said, I mean my kids. College
37:40
is overrated. My kids do not need to go to college.
37:42
Community college. Here, I come, see's good degree.
37:44
Yes they do. Let's go around the room with
37:46
the best and worst of the weekend, Todd, start with
37:48
you best of the weekend. Backup quarterback cade
37:51
McNamara and Michigan coming back to win forty
37:53
eight forty two and triple overtime at Rutgers,
37:55
Wolverine's third largest comeback winning school
37:57
history. McNamara two hundred sixty yards forty
38:00
these no picks also ran in for a touchdown.
38:02
Worst Kentucky, North Alabama,
38:04
and Kansas State. I'm looping them all together because
38:06
they lost by a combined score of one hundred and
38:09
seventy four to seventeen to
38:11
Alabama, BYU and Iowa State.
38:13
Yeah. I don't know if that was a good thing for Michigan
38:15
to barely beat Rutgers. But
38:18
is that where we are? Which it's better
38:20
than losing, but it felt like, hey,
38:23
we beat Rutgers. Yeah
38:26
in overtime. Mclove in
38:28
best and worst that is actually gonna be a losing
38:30
quarterback. Derek Carr is like amazing
38:32
now he's played well, extremely well. I'm surprised.
38:35
It seems like him and Gruden worse is
38:37
obviously going to be the Browns Eagles.
38:39
But one aspect, do the Browns if they
38:41
played nine straight games in a monsoon or is it
38:43
every time I turn on a Browns game, like nobody could
38:45
catch because the wind and the rain are coming
38:47
down. Yep. Weather has been an issue there
38:50
for them. They've done well with it. But you
38:52
know, when they win, nobody talks about the Browns. You
38:55
notice that when
38:57
there's certain teams, when the Cowboys
39:00
win, then there's no nothing to really
39:02
talk about unless you go, are they the team to beat
39:04
in the NMC's okay?
39:08
But when the Browns win, we
39:10
just move on. Talking
39:13
heads, just move on. Nothing to talking. But they lose,
39:15
bad Baker Mayfield, you gotta
39:17
lose a job, sen Connor
39:20
Best and worse My best of the weekend. It's
39:22
kind of be an overshadow because of the Joe Burrow injury.
39:25
But how about Alex Smith getting his first to win as a starter
39:27
seven hundred and forty two days. That's a
39:30
major moment for that dude. Yep, h
39:32
Paul Bestnu Worse. Worst of the weekend
39:35
the refs at the end of the Purdue Minnesota game on
39:37
Friday night, a really good game in Minnesota, one
39:39
thirty four thirty one. Perdue got
39:41
called for offensive pass interference on
39:43
a late touchdown that would have basically won them the game.
39:46
It's a mystery of what they called there, and people were pretty upset,
39:48
especially Purdue fans. Best of the
39:50
weekend kind of is Northwestern Wildcats
39:53
beating Wisconsin seventeen seven. Northwestern's
39:55
five and oh they've got Michigan State, Minnesota,
39:58
and Illinois to run the table and
40:00
of course the big dentitle game. The only negative is
40:02
the the insufferable Northwestern
40:05
media members sports media members that went to
40:07
Northwestern over the next few weeks. If
40:09
Northwestern goes undefeated, as much as I want
40:11
Northwestern to their their alumni
40:14
can be insufferable. So it's Michael Wilbon
40:16
and Mike Greenberg, Darren Mabel and Darren Real
40:18
Stewart Mandel. But
40:22
when Northwestern plays, well, that's
40:24
tough. Yeah. Does Penn State
40:26
play Michigan this weekend? I
40:29
think? How
40:32
good is that? I
40:35
think? I think that might be the schedules
40:37
that sound right mclen eleven, twenty eight,
40:39
twelve pm. Penn State is now scheduled
40:41
for Michigan. I like it. H Carter
40:43
in Washington, Hey Carter, what's on your mind? Hey
40:48
Carter, Hey Dan, Hey Dann
40:50
you're there? Yeah, Carter, Hey
40:52
Dan? Second time, long time five five
40:55
one twenty nine. Unfortunately
40:59
four tons heavier than last time. But
41:02
that's the worse of a LinkedIn. My best is I
41:04
ordered the Dan Patrick show calendar. Did
41:06
you get it yet? Worse? So
41:09
here's the deal. Here's my worst is.
41:11
I recently moved and I changed my address,
41:13
so I was expecting that Friday came back
41:15
from a nice day on the golf course, was gonna
41:17
have my Dan Patrick's show calendar. And
41:20
because I forwarded my address, it's
41:22
now delayed. So that was my mistake and
41:25
it would be so worth it though, Carter, Oh,
41:28
I'm so ready. Hey Dan, I also want
41:30
to thank you for putting the Washington State Patrol patch
41:32
up. Love it, and I'll leave
41:35
you with this suck it back row. Okay,
41:37
that's Carter. The calendar.
41:39
We're not giving any hints on the pictures
41:41
in the calendar this year. You just
41:44
have to come to trust us that it's
41:46
going to be a lot of nudity and
41:50
it's it's definitely you
41:52
know what I would do. I would preview it before i'd show
41:54
the kids. Let's just put it that there. There's
41:57
there's one in there in particular
42:00
or that I wasn't quite sure, but
42:02
I just said, yep, I'm gonna sign off on this
42:04
one. It was a little bit more skin
42:06
then I think this person planned a show.
42:09
But hey, it's all about
42:11
the views, it's all about content. It's
42:13
I candy. Yeah. Point, if you're working in an office,
42:16
maybe don't put it up where the HR people can
42:18
see in walking. Yeah. Yeah,
42:20
see so you had said it's a little
42:22
more skin than that person had planned to show. So I
42:24
haven't seen any of the pictures still. Yeah, but wouldn't
42:26
that person have control over exactly how much
42:28
skin they showed? No, man like, you can't
42:30
like the picture. Can't accidentally end up in
42:33
the calendar, can it? Yes?
42:35
Oh, because a lot of pictures
42:37
were taken for this month,
42:40
Oh dear, and I have final
42:42
approval. Oh so you did this, Yes I
42:44
didn't. Yes. So if you want some
42:46
man candy, you got it. That's
42:48
the selling point with the Dan Patrick show
42:51
calendar coming up. Chris Mannox. On
42:53
the weekend, the Lakers had What's Michael Jordan
42:55
Doing
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