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dot com. This is

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the Dan Leverage Show with the Stuttgart

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podcast.

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But I believe that Jessica has

1:12

it all wrong when she won't allow the

1:14

nineteen seventy two dolphins of perfection

1:17

to just hate everyone who comes after

1:19

them -- Right. -- with bitterness and toast

1:21

the demise I love that these crotchy

1:23

old men who were perfect in nineteen seventy

1:26

two have drinks in a petty

1:28

hateful way. No one's as perfect

1:30

as we are. where the only perfect

1:32

football team, football exists on our

1:34

backs and creaky knees. We were the perfect

1:37

one, and, of course, the Eagles aren't perfect.

1:39

We are a symbol for haters. We

1:41

are what the bald eagle is to America.

1:44

We are that for haters. I believe the

1:46

nineteen seventy two dolphins should take up that

1:48

that mantle.

1:49

You're right. I'm totally being a hater.

1:51

And this is what happens when your team doesn't

1:54

do as well as you would like them to do. You just

1:56

you've rely on just hating everyone

1:58

else to get some sort of satisfaction out

2:00

of the season. I just went online to vote

2:02

for the pro bowl because Mike and Stuttgart wouldn't

2:05

stop talking about it during the break. And I'm looking

2:07

at all these quarterbacks, and I was like,

2:09

I hate all of these people. I

2:11

hate them all. I want everyone to lose. I want

2:13

no one to make the pro bowl. If I can't be happy, no

2:15

one should

2:15

be happy. because you don't have a quarterback because

2:17

Stuttgart has spent the entire last forty

2:19

five minutes. It's not toa. I love toa.

2:22

Picking just dolphins. He got my boat. Stuttgart,

2:24

you guys don't understand how you're gonna get boxed

2:26

in by the Jets fan. Stukats is

2:28

about to take up the flag of the Miami

2:31

dolphins of. They're the most exciting

2:33

team I've ever seen and they're gonna win out

2:35

because it's gonna get him applause in Miami.

2:38

Yeah. He's gonna try and outhomer Greg

2:40

Cote. Can't be done. We

2:42

picked them collectively to go to the studio.

2:45

You're right. Greg and I are a tandem on this. Yeah.

2:47

We're like the Marx Brothers Dan, different Clayton.

2:49

Yes. Oh, thank you, man. Horpro one,

2:51

Browns Show. Really?

2:55

Wow. Thank you. You've got

2:57

amazing. They were saying we're

2:59

sick last in months.

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No. Do you have your back in my

3:03

day? No. No. I mean,

3:06

Dan, I have been busier than the one

3:08

legged putter. I mean, it it

3:10

thinks there's a lot going on. You

3:12

know, McGill tease it. There's a lot

3:14

going on outside of this show in the Miami Herald

3:16

right now for yours truly. He's being very

3:18

cryptic about this partnership. And is

3:20

it cryptic? Like, what do you guys

3:22

what do you guys do? I'm gonna scam are you

3:24

and McGill running that you're you're keep

3:27

tasing us. We're on a live program. Right? I don't

3:29

know that I would call it a scam.

3:31

I do think it's it's McGill's purvey.

3:34

it's it's his baby that he has welcomed me

3:36

into, and he needs to he

3:38

needs to do the big reveal, not myself.

3:41

I got too much class for that. Your

3:43

Scoops Cody betrayed me about my

3:45

engagement. Yeah. Well, but that was,

3:47

you know, that was a happy occasion. So is

3:49

this? but it's up to Rhonda reveal

3:51

it at

3:52

the right time. This is amazing. This

3:55

is like now you've got like a

3:57

line that you won't cross.

3:59

Correct. Don't

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we all? mean No.

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We don't. seeing the wrong person. No. We don't.

4:03

We don't. Okay. I

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wanna come such gifts. Mike,

4:10

what happened with Ronaldo and

4:13

Piers Morgan? I have not seen this. I don't

4:15

know anything about this. So

4:17

Ronaldo has been trying

4:20

to force his way out of Manchester United,

4:22

and he decided rather than

4:24

keep it behind doors he was gonna go

4:26

scorched earth.

4:28

And there's a lot of videos of Ronaldo

4:31

appearing at Portugal's World Cup

4:33

camp and being given the cold shoulder by

4:35

teammates that aren't playing with him on

4:37

Manchester United, some that are, and

4:39

it's for good reason. I've never seen

4:42

Well, actually, I saw Ramlo Lukaku

4:44

do this last year when he was trying force his way

4:46

out of Chelsea. But you

4:49

called the Glazers in the question. said

4:51

that the manager doesn't know what he is doing.

4:53

Why would I respect these people? There's

4:55

no real commitment to winning. And

4:58

he is really struggling to come to

5:00

grips with his

5:02

being benched. He's not

5:04

accustomed to being benched.

5:06

He still thinks he was player that he was and he's

5:09

having very difficult time for this. I I

5:11

say that a lot of people are piling on.

5:13

And this is a really bad look for

5:15

Cristiano Ronaldo. Has he ever done

5:17

scandals and headlines with his words?

5:19

His words? No. he has been embroiled

5:22

in scandal with a cement from the

5:24

from the Vegas stuff that he was eventually

5:27

cleared of. But he I'll give you a

5:29

sample. of some of the this is a player

5:31

that is under contract. But if I may, just

5:33

because you're gonna have to help me put in

5:36

some patches on my ignorance

5:38

here. just the history of what we're talking

5:41

about. Messi and Ronaldo have been pillars

5:43

arguing across about a ten

5:45

years longer. Who's the best player

5:47

in the most popular sport? in the world. It's

5:49

one of them, the beautiful guy, or the short guy.

5:52

And both of them don't say publicly

5:54

things that end up in headlines very

5:56

often. Correct? cheaply because

5:59

especially

5:59

with

5:59

American media, I I think they've sepped in it

6:02

occasionally by giving interviews in

6:04

their in their countries, but This

6:07

is like LeBron doing a scorched earth interview,

6:09

which he kinda does on Twitter. If you've if

6:11

you've been reading tea leaves Or if or

6:13

if he leaks to the athletic during the

6:15

All Star game about things that he's not

6:17

happy. He he does it more subtly. Straight. More

6:20

passive aggressively. This is just Chris

6:22

Guillermo, sitting down with Peter's

6:24

Morgan of all people. mean, if you wanna appear

6:26

likable by comparison, maybe this is a movie.

6:29

How how did that become the get? How

6:31

did that one happen? Definitely, they were there

6:33

was some sort of friendship even though there were some old

6:35

tweets of peers I mean,

6:37

insulting Cristiano Ronaldo, but

6:40

I I've seen some UK coverage of this, and

6:42

they're actually criticizing the

6:44

choice that Cristiano Ronaldo made to

6:46

go on this cable channel, talk TV because

6:48

it's so low production value. You're

6:51

you're always associated with elegance in

6:53

this support. You're one of the famous people in the world.

6:55

Why are you going to what is essentially tabloid

6:57

TV to give this interview? But here,

6:59

straight from the horse's mouth, Here's some of the terms,

7:01

the the blunt terms that he's talking in. I

7:03

try to force you out. Yes. Not only the coach,

7:05

but the other two or three guys, they are around.

7:08

the club.

7:09

At the senior executive level? Yes.

7:12

That I failed to betrayed. I

7:14

don't care. I'm always people should

7:16

listen to true. yes, I

7:18

feel betrayed and I felt that

7:20

some people that don't want me here

7:22

not only this year,

7:25

but last year too. This is purposeful

7:27

that he's doing it in English too. Does

7:29

that matter? He's a pretty decent English speaker

7:31

because this is actually his second spell with

7:33

Manchester United. The first time, obviously,

7:36

it went gloriously well. You're in a

7:38

massive transfer to Real Madrid and

7:40

begun his status as one of the best

7:42

players in the world. but the second time has

7:44

not gone well and there's a lot of context here.

7:46

One is they changed manager over

7:48

the course of last season and again

7:51

in this off season a lot of modern

7:53

coaches want their forwards to defend.

7:55

And Cristiano Ronaldo at thirty seven years

7:57

of age basically says, I can't

7:59

do that

7:59

anymore. All I do is score goals. and

8:02

I do it very well, but I don't

8:04

really offer a lot defensively, so multiple coaches

8:06

who do not have nearly the pedigree that Cristiano

8:08

Ronaldo does. I basically

8:10

told him, if you don't work for my team, you're not gonna

8:13

play. And he's like, who the hell are you

8:15

to tell me that I'm not going to play? So there's

8:17

been this sort of all this whole back and forth.

8:19

He only has one goal this season. He's thirty

8:21

seven. And in the summer, he asked

8:23

for move away from Manchester United didn't

8:26

get it because it appears as though

8:28

no major European club wants him.

8:30

Major is a key is a key word there

8:32

because there was a nice story about him maybe

8:34

returning to Portugal with sporting

8:37

and the manager there was asked

8:39

about it and that's kind of a wrong direction.

8:41

There are clubs like Roma would be

8:43

a nice fit for him. There are clubs that

8:46

would be interested in his services, but

8:48

they're not these glamour clubs

8:50

nor could they pay the money. No. It would

8:52

currently make Take a setback in wages. I

8:54

I think loss in all of this. And

8:56

it should be mentioned that Cristiano Ronaldo

8:59

is kinda

9:02

going through it a little bit, not only

9:04

does he have to come to grips with his professional

9:06

career, not being what it once was, and he's

9:08

certainly struggling to do that, and

9:10

his ego is still peaking all the Well,

9:14

if I may, he also lost a

9:16

child.

9:17

A newborn

9:19

That's very difficult, obviously, for a parent

9:21

to work through. I think to a degree, you should extend

9:24

him perhaps he's working through

9:26

that. publicly as people grieve

9:28

through it, it still doesn't it

9:30

still doesn't take away that this was done with

9:32

intent in a very crude

9:35

an unprofessional way to force

9:37

his way at it somewhere. He's not happy. Well, the thing

9:39

that I'm going to ask you about him

9:41

professionally, personally, everything else, this

9:43

is one of the biggest stars in the world. I'm

9:46

I'm assuming that Ronaldo's following

9:48

is bigger than LeBron's by a good deal.

9:50

Yes. Like, bigger than anyone in sports.

9:52

Okay. So Ronaldo is the biggest sports

9:54

star we have because he plays this global

9:56

and international game. And he's been impossibly

9:59

beautiful and impossibly successful forever.

10:01

Now he's doing for the first time in his life as he wrestles

10:03

with age. because you can't be Tom Brady. Not

10:05

everyone else, not anyone else. He's Tom Brady.

10:08

He's thirty seven years old, expects to be

10:11

a slot on at thirty seven, expect

10:14

expects to be the biggest thing

10:16

going and he's not you know, it's hard

10:18

to stay there at thirty seven. He's not gonna play

10:20

defense because he wants to score goals. And

10:22

defense, their struggles are are coming because he's not

10:24

being supported. Whereas, I he

10:26

feels a betrayal from his manager when

10:28

I actually think his manager is handling

10:31

a player of his present skill probably

10:33

the right way. I wanna see Cristiano

10:35

Ronaldo flourish on the field because I think he's

10:37

a when he's on form, still

10:40

at this age, a player you can take your

10:42

eyes off of and it's not a

10:44

great spot for him, but he is being totally

10:47

classless in how he's trying to But you're

10:49

you're saying this and what I'm asking you

10:51

is isn't this the Americanized way to

10:53

push your self out. I'm I'm asking

10:55

you, is this guy just learning what Tom Brady

10:57

and LeBron did when they were forty where it's

10:59

like, I'm just gonna I'm gonna make a

11:01

scandalized. I'm gonna urinate all over the

11:03

place on my way out because he's never are

11:05

you saying it's unwise to have done this interview?

11:08

In terms of his legacy, because

11:10

he's gone into a World Cup camp, and there's

11:12

all sorts of negative vibes around him. He's

11:14

just got country mates at play on his same club.

11:17

And it's No one's out there saying

11:19

this is a good look for Cristiano Ronaldo.

11:21

He gained nothing from this except maybe

11:23

what he ultimately wanted, which was just to get out.

11:26

And there actually probably was a

11:28

way to do this that would sort of engender

11:30

some sympathy because the Manchester United

11:33

owners in particular are not popular

11:35

with their fans. If he just made this because yeah.

11:37

He also, in the interview, talked about how the

11:39

club has very low standards relative to

11:41

other major euro markets. still the lasers. Right?

11:43

I did still the lasers. Yes. The the the glazers

11:45

on them. she's never spoken to them. Okay. But

11:47

the glazers, the the glazers are considered

11:50

a blight by the fans of these people. god.

11:52

Like, they they stormed the field and

11:54

protested. They don't they don't like American owners.

11:56

But he would have garnered support to your point

11:58

because what he was saying in some

12:00

instances, was actually speaking for the

12:02

fans. They didn't care. They haven't had directions since

12:05

sir Alex. They haven't modernized either in

12:07

the way that they run the club or in the training facility

12:09

a lot of things that are behind. That's a very popular

12:11

message. But the I was

12:13

betrayed. I'm forcing my way out.

12:16

I wanna go in January. and

12:18

and sort of completely be

12:20

a diva about this has made him incredibly

12:23

unpopular, which was completely against

12:25

the odds because when he arrived, in

12:27

August of twenty twenty one, which is

12:29

a mere fifteen months ago, he arrived

12:31

as a hero, player who had won champions

12:33

league and and left this club

12:36

and is now coming back and met

12:38

a lot of people thought that he was the missing piece to

12:40

have them win championship because they've finished second

12:42

year before he comes in and they got considerably

12:45

worse. A lot of Keane soccer observers

12:47

will point to the reason that they got worse as

12:49

Ronaldo's presence. Because while he

12:51

did score goals, the rest of the team kind

12:53

of floundered around him and they sucked defensively.

12:56

Oh my god, though. Aging sucks, dude. It'd be

12:58

really hard to be what been Ronaldo all your

13:00

life and now you look around and you're like,

13:02

oh, I'm thirty seven and it's hard. These

13:04

guys are all twenty three and they're really fast.

13:06

you know, son had that awareness. He thinks he's so Right.

13:08

He still he still thinks he's the best player. Brady

13:11

doing just fine then. I know. It's but

13:13

it it's it's yet another reason

13:15

to be awestruck every week. We've

13:17

already normalized what Mahomes does on

13:19

Sundays. Like, it it can we should

13:21

be shouting every week around here. Like, just

13:23

have a one minute segment. Like, this thing that

13:25

Tom Brady's doing, you're never gonna see

13:27

it again. It's the weirdest thing. You're

13:29

not allowed to play forever. Nobody gets a fountain

13:31

of youth that is ridiculous. And if there's anyone in

13:33

soccer who would do it, it would be cristiano Ronaldo.

13:36

because of how he physically maintains himself. He

13:38

does all the TV, like, not exactly TV

13:41

twelve, but the maintaining of his body that

13:43

everyone else does. But It's just a different sport.

13:45

You can't do it in that sport in that way. Yeah. Brady's

13:47

not running for ninety minutes. Well,

13:49

he did run that route on

13:51

Sunday, and it ended with him slipping and

13:53

falling. why

13:56

is it? And it it is a comedic

13:58

perfection, all of us. I

14:01

believe America They can't agree on

14:03

anything. When Brady went out and I

14:05

you don't have to do this about his divorce. It makes

14:07

you cruel because he's been winning for seven

14:09

years. but that that Tom Brady

14:11

would arrive at falling

14:13

down on the floor going for a

14:15

pass. And all of us were like, you know what? It's

14:18

about time that something happened

14:20

to you where you don't get to be the greatest

14:22

athlete, better. It's it would be unfair if

14:24

you're catching a touchdown pass. Forty

14:26

yards down feeling it counts the same as what

14:28

Justin Jefferson does. This

14:30

has been the Brady thing for years, though, I've

14:32

time he does like a QB sneaker or

14:34

like a QB draw or anything where he

14:36

has to scramble for a a first

14:38

down, whatever. It happens very

14:40

rarely, but every time it does, everyone

14:42

laughs and they're like, alright. Well, maybe

14:44

he's maybe he's not able to do

14:46

everything. And it makes us feel just a tiny

14:49

bit better about ourselves until you

14:51

remember he's probably

14:53

the best player that's ever existed in

14:55

that sport. and has seven Super Bowls.

14:57

And, really, we're the the last

15:00

laugh is

15:00

on us. But no one meet there there's not a

15:02

person I could find on the Internet or anyone else

15:04

that would extend compassion to

15:06

Tom Brady on his aged embarrassment. It's

15:09

okay to laugh at that. As a country, as

15:11

a universe, it's okay to laugh at you

15:13

don't get to win all the time. In

15:16

this one moment, I get to feel better than

15:18

you.

15:18

Is laughing at old people like part

15:20

of the circle of life Like, is that part

15:22

of it? Is that right for

15:24

young people to

15:25

do? And then they become old and the cycle

15:27

continues and young people to lap at them.

15:29

Yeah. It just seems like something that is going

15:31

to be around forever. And no matter

15:33

who you are and how great you are, people will laugh

15:35

at you

15:36

when you're old. Thank you, Jess. How

15:38

are you doing, by the way? That's just what we

15:40

need. You wanna laugh at me. Speaking

15:42

of which Stuttgart, I can't believe

15:44

I did not get to this the last couple of

15:46

days. What happened? something happened

15:49

yesterday, and I don't remember who it is that

15:51

said home run hitters, that somebody

15:53

in football was called Greg Olson.

15:55

Yeah. He was talking about Christian Watson.

15:58

Okay. So Christian Watson of the packers

16:00

had three touchdowns and a hundred

16:02

yards. Yeah. Aaron Rogers has receiver

16:05

who's faster than other people. Mhmm.

16:07

And And who was it that said he's

16:09

on run hitter one more time? It was Greg Olson.

16:11

Alright. So Greg Olson is the number two guy

16:14

on the Fox team. Right? He's the they're

16:16

he's currently number one until apparently

16:19

Tom Brady gets eliminated from the playoffs and

16:21

then he becomes the number one. That's

16:23

what yeah. Well, that's how it works for Brady. Yes.

16:25

A double ball for Brady. He's got

16:27

the line. Brady fails to make the Super Bowl this

16:29

year. He may be a part of, like, maybe the pregame

16:32

company, but know he called the Super Bowl. I've heard

16:34

that he's When Tom Brady began the

16:36

super behind himself. Play by play too.

16:38

My gosh. I mean,

16:40

Tom is the

16:41

way that really got mad just

16:43

Saturday for coming in and swooping in

16:45

and getting in the room head coach.

16:47

Apparently, they've been on conference calls

16:49

all year. The the number one announced team of Kevin

16:51

Burkhard Grigel and Aaron Andrews with Tom

16:53

Brady. That's amazing to sort of develop

16:55

some chemistry. You're right. They're paying him

16:58

three hundred but trillion, gazillion dollars. What

17:00

did you think? And they're gonna have him do side

17:02

line stuff. Come on. Would I rather hear

17:04

him call it? Wedding him. Put it on the

17:06

poll. He's gonna do both. At

17:08

leveredard show. Put it on the

17:10

poll. Would you be okay with

17:13

Tom Brady being the only

17:15

voice talking on the Super Bowl broadcast?

17:18

You're doing a Brady cast now? I

17:21

don't even want a referendum. It's just

17:23

Tom Brady. overloading the

17:25

situation, knocking out everyone at Fox

17:28

everyone. No play by play people. No one.

17:30

It's just the soothing voice of Brady

17:32

telling us about what it's like to win at

17:34

football. I want the opposite. I want Brady

17:37

relegated to sideline reporter and

17:39

running after a a head coach for a

17:41

shred of a comment that the coach didn't wanna give

17:43

it. see

17:45

Mike McDaniel from into the halfway

17:47

tunnel. You want him to take the three hundred

17:49

and seventy five million dollars sideline

17:52

giant to be humiliated. so great.

17:54

It would be so great to see a bunch of former coaches

17:56

who also skip the line to become analysts

17:58

-- Yeah. -- all of a sudden ripping Tom Brady

18:01

for this. witting him. I need to know more.

18:03

I need to know what this reporting is. You're telling

18:05

me that as the reports are

18:07

and the tabloids are having fun with

18:09

you gotta always be wary of the jujitsu dis

18:12

instructor because all

18:14

of a sudden the tabloids are replete with information

18:17

on Giselle's life and Tom Brady

18:19

and whoever it is that she

18:22

may or may not be dating I'm

18:24

sorry. What a jiujitsu instructor?

18:26

Yes. Apparently, the family had a jiujitsu

18:29

instructor. I don't know what the reporting on

18:31

this. It's a lot of gossip and a lot of page

18:33

six. Twenty years ago, used to be the tennis

18:35

instructor. Now it's a jujitsu instructor.

18:37

Well, in Veep, it was the massage therapist

18:40

or personal trainer guy place

18:42

So those are this SVU well,

18:44

god. I forget his name now. I mean, help me.

18:47

It was a great plot bit, though.

18:48

It it it's but that's, like, the typical

18:51

kind of, like, when there's infidelity,

18:53

it's It's some sort of instructor, a a

18:55

trainer or tennis pro. on a poll,

18:57

please, winning him. Is it always the jujitsu instructor?

19:02

And the the thing that I wanted to

19:04

ask you guys, though, is as

19:06

we've been microanalyzing this

19:08

man's life and his marriage, he's a grand winner

19:10

of our time. He has knocked out Michael

19:13

Jordan. He's unbelievable. But

19:15

he seems to have made a deal with the

19:17

devil that now includes trading his family

19:19

and to broadcast the Super Bowl are being

19:21

on meetings with Greg Olson and

19:23

Aaron Andrews as he gets divorced.

19:26

And his life, as he says, AM forty five,

19:28

I got a lot shit going on. I really

19:30

wanna know winning him. What is the

19:32

like, you can't just walk into the job on

19:34

the Super Bowl and start talking into a microphone.

19:37

Like, That's what you look at. You look

19:39

at us. Yes. We got our guests, man. I'm

19:41

Brady. So it's

19:43

been mentioned as a possibility. At

19:46

the time in May, a Fox Sports

19:48

PR person said decline

19:50

comment. An Andrew Marsh end of the New

19:52

York post says reported that is unlikely to

19:55

happen him joining. But I I have

19:57

heard that they are sort of regularly talking

19:59

to Tom Brady,

19:59

you know, just sort of maintaining

20:02

communication Maybe it doesn't jump straight into the

20:04

booth. Maybe jumps jumps on the set of the

20:06

pre game show or whatever, but they do have the Super

20:08

Bowl. There's a chance to top rating could be out

20:10

and they have him under contract

20:12

for ten years. So we we don't know

20:14

precisely when he will join that booth, but it's a possibility.

20:17

That's

20:17

a if he joins the Fox pre game show.

20:19

That's amazing because it only brings down the

20:21

average age of that group to, like, seventy

20:23

two. Can

20:25

I wonder aloud

20:27

whether there's any possibility if you're

20:29

signing this kind of deal with Tom Brady

20:31

that if he's actually playing in the Super Bowl,

20:33

I'm not joking when I say he's wired

20:35

for sound. And you're just airing

20:38

what he's doing out there because now he's your

20:40

broadcast partner and he's a streaming service.

20:42

And he says, take that over in traditional book.

20:44

And he says, you know, Brent. I'm asking you seriously

20:47

now. Get closer to football than

20:49

you've ever been. And here's Tom Brady

20:51

miked up for sound live. He also works

20:53

for us as a broadcaster. Do you guys remember

20:55

it? Was it spring training in baseball where they started

20:57

mucking up the players? And in

20:59

game, we're list We started with the all star

21:01

game. That we're listing them live. Yeah. It's not

21:04

like the sounds of the game cuts or whatever.

21:06

I would love that for Tom Brady just to be

21:08

like, You can hear him talk about what he's

21:10

gonna do and then do it and then break it

21:12

down for us after he's done it. He could

21:14

change the entire sport like Saturday on his

21:16

first day on the job. Very

21:19

quietly, Tanya's name. So

21:21

anyway, Greg Olson said

21:23

that Watson was a home run hitter, and this,

21:26

of course, made Stuttgart's go to the files

21:28

and grab his top five home run hitters

21:30

of all time. In football, I'm assuming

21:32

these are not home run hitters in baseball. Correct?

21:34

Oh, this is real football, not soccer

21:37

either. Okay? Okay. Yes. Real

21:39

real American football says the

21:41

xenophobic new guy football. I

21:43

mean, I'm rooting for USA. I have them winning

21:45

up in a betting. What are you guys doing? Anything?

21:48

Anyone

21:48

else that you guys Postgame coverage,

21:51

podcast coverage, a new

21:54

metal art media production, generally

21:56

standing up for the sport and wake of ignorance

21:58

of the show for twenty

21:59

years. A number five home

22:02

run hitter of all time in football.

22:04

Willie golf.

22:05

This is the sprinter.

22:07

Straight sprinter. Name is fast.

22:10

Here's the thing about a home run hitter. You

22:12

can't be great. It can't be Randy Moss.

22:14

It can't be guys like that. They just have to

22:16

be guys. Guys who could take it to the house on

22:18

any given play. Okay? Number

22:20

four. Devin Hester. Oh, yeah.

22:23

What happened? Good one, two, that

22:26

player in football. Where did he go? He didn't

22:28

make him a wide receiver. No. I'm not saying

22:30

Devin Hester, actually. I'm saying where's

22:32

the guy that you fear when the balls kicked to

22:34

him? You mean They they're all gone. They're running quarterback

22:37

now. Yeah. There's no

22:39

such thing, though. That that that leaves the

22:41

sport with Devin Hester, there is not a guy. I

22:43

suppose if we punted to Tyria kill, we'd seen

22:45

some of it. When they changed the they changed the rules on

22:47

the kickoffs. Yeah. like you're saying that guy is now

22:49

Justin Fields. Yeah. Yeah. I think a big cat

22:51

was talking about how he'd like to see Justin

22:53

Fields return upon think

22:55

I'd sign up for that. I'd like to change

22:58

it. That's a terrible idea. It's a great

23:00

idea. Because

23:00

of the rule changes and, like, statistics now,

23:02

it's not worth it. If you have a guy that talented

23:05

and fast, who can catch the ball to put him on

23:07

special teams when he can make a bigger impact

23:09

on offense. So it's just been deemphasized.

23:11

Yeah. Although, Tyree Kil has returned

23:13

a a few months.

23:14

You've got three better home run hitters

23:17

than Devin Hester who was who feels like

23:19

the die the dying of that breed. It was Dion

23:21

Sanders. It was Devin Hester. And then Devon

23:23

has to disappear I I guess there was a Metcalf

23:25

for a while that somebody wanted Derrick Metcalf.

23:28

Yeah. But but one number three, I'm not boiler

23:30

alert. Number three. Eric McCann.

23:35

Number

23:36

two, Will Fuller v.

23:38

Whoa.

23:40

Wow.

23:43

It's all or nothing with that guy. I mean,

23:45

it's mostly nothing. Yeah.

23:47

But when it's something, it is something Yes.

23:50

It would be. Yes. You agreed. When

23:52

it is something, it's something, but it's so rarely

23:54

something that he does for years now. It's been nothing.

23:56

It was nothing in Miami for about three years.

23:59

Stuttgart,

23:59

who was number five?

24:01

Willie Gault.

24:02

Oh, when Willie Gault had the ball,

24:04

was it the gallstone?

24:12

They were passing gold songs.

24:15

Make

24:19

it a worse. I I cannot believe

24:21

Jessica Smithana had the the unmitigated

24:24

goal. Let's say that, Joe.

24:28

Number one. Number one.

24:31

Chris Johnson.

24:35

That's true.

24:37

CJ2K It's true.

24:40

But he's too good. Isn't he? No. He's

24:43

he's right there. He's right where you want him to be.

24:45

He's good. He's not great. He's not

24:47

a whole of famer, but he's right. good NFL. Yeah.

24:49

He wasn't good for that long. Didn't he have, like, three big

24:51

years, nothing coffee. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The

24:54

the player with the the greatest career

24:56

yards per reception Number

24:58

one all time. His name is actually Homer.

25:01

Homer Jones. There you go. Really? remember

25:03

him. He covered himself. Yep. Yeah. Homer

25:05

is the greatest homerun hitter. Shout out

25:07

to Jimmy Hines as well. Who do you

25:09

miss? Who do you miss?

25:12

Jamal Charles. Oh, wow. That's a good

25:14

one. Oh, will I? Tony

25:16

is begging to get his top five list in

25:18

here. That's what just happened there. I haven't spoken

25:21

a word. That's fine, dude. Nice to

25:23

see you after long layoff. haven't even said hello

25:25

to me in this You were sick yesterday. I'm

25:27

sorry that you were sick and it's good to

25:29

go. But I was in New York and I was battling

25:31

through MSG was absolutely

25:34

insane. UFC two eighty one was one for

25:36

the books, but I've got my top

25:38

five. One for the books. How how was

25:40

I know you and juju and Lewis went up

25:42

there and I it looked like you were having a

25:44

great deal of fun. And then I noticed

25:46

that big cat was sitting next to Halliburton and

25:48

you were in the last row of seats. Well, I was in

25:51

the media section doing my work

25:53

as a media member. Big cat went as a

25:55

patron in the front row, so there's a difference

25:57

there. I got my UFC credentials and

25:59

he was paid for to go to a five thousand

26:02

dollar seat. So a little bit of a different story there. But

26:04

-- Alright. -- we've gotta do better here at Meadowmark Media

26:06

by you then. Tony could sit in the press box

26:08

that we're We're

26:09

serious journalists.

26:11

Oh, I don't know what that's supposed

26:13

to mean. That's okay. So juju so what

26:16

you saw just roaming the streets

26:18

of New York, just to be clear, Jessica,

26:20

with juju and Tony and Lewis, is

26:22

serious journalism. That's what you saw.

26:26

check me on track my statement. Yeah. Check me.

26:29

Tony's top five. NFL

26:31

takeaways, as you do have to write them

26:33

down. No. We US sports illustrated, though.

26:36

He was sick yesterday, so

26:38

we've been waiting for this two days. I'm gonna

26:40

find myself Willie Parker was fast

26:42

Willie Parker was not fast Willie

26:45

golf. Yeah. Wanna find myself. Is it

26:47

a dollar? Wow. Yeah. That

26:49

has never happened before. No.

26:51

He's not. Thank you for making that correction.

26:54

new. When when did you turn out of our new leaf

26:57

since when? Yeah. A minute ago. I don't

26:59

think you would have for volunteered. You love

27:01

getting away with you. that has never

27:03

been turned over. I do feel good about that one.

27:05

It's a it's a it's a very sacred. Let's talk

27:07

about the right. somebody should have corrected. And

27:09

the top of that leaf is sun bleached.

27:12

And you turn it over, and it's pristine. I

27:16

am stunned at just what I I've

27:18

never seen that happen before. And

27:20

he has volunteered to find and

27:23

correct at himself and didn't try to get

27:25

away with something. He's not here. Like

27:27

a slide of hand where he took some more

27:29

money than he left. sitting

27:32

dollars. That is the only dollar that I've seen

27:34

voluntarily get. He gave to

27:36

charity a ledge. He did TV interviews

27:38

for a week saying he would give money

27:41

to charity for every bowl of Panther

27:43

scored knocking. They scored seven that

27:45

night. He never paid a dollar to anyone

27:47

who just did the interviews about how he was gonna

27:49

give money to chair I wasn't expecting

27:51

seven. It's the only

27:54

dollar I've ever seen Stuttgart's gift.

27:56

Number five, Tony.

27:58

I've gotta I've gotta whisper this

27:59

Okay. Do we need to turn down the music?

28:02

No. No. No. Keep the music up. Keep music

28:04

up. There's a whisper to

28:06

a

28:07

to a friend. Oh, to

28:10

a friend. Oh, to a friend.

28:11

We're whispering that.

28:14

It's whispering secret right now.

28:15

NFL on Fox. The fans voted for

28:18

it. There people I see a lot of. Keasha and Johnson, there

28:20

are a lot of people on television ever seen this with

28:22

Colin Coward, Steve and Nate Smith. They're not

28:24

watching these games. Yeah. Look, they're they're not

28:27

They're busy the most entertaining offense at the end of the end.

28:29

But they think it's they think that things are

28:31

happening, dink and dunk that aren't happening.

28:33

Got you, whisper. Sorry. Sorry.

28:35

By the way, Sorry. Noah was a second

28:37

favorite for MVP. I'm tracking

28:39

sportsbook. It's a Whisper Sellers three fifty.

28:41

Just just keep that in the back of your mind. I'm just not

28:43

doing very well. I have to check. It's last

28:46

night night, this g drop to five to one.

28:48

Mhmm. It's first gina waz.

28:50

Number one, it's Patrick Holmes. Usman

28:53

twenty five.

28:55

Chino's spin is forty to one. That's

28:58

good morning. I like those odds. Number

29:01

four.

29:04

McVeigh McVeigh. Sean McVeigh.

29:06

Oh, they're done. He's got one foot out the door.

29:09

Oh, wow. one foot out the

29:11

door. I love them. Talk about broadcasting gigs.

29:15

One foot out the door. You got John Wafford

29:18

starting. or cup is out

29:20

with high ankle sprain. MIA

29:22

with with cam acres. Yep. They're playing

29:24

Ronnie Rivers. You know Al Michaels calls

29:27

him every week and he's like, hey, buddy,

29:29

please. You you could have been here, man. You

29:31

could have been here, twenty million push

29:33

gig. He's got one foot out the door. I wouldn't

29:35

say that that that lasts too much longer in LA.

29:38

You guys realize what McVey

29:41

could have had if he'd just gotten out All

29:44

of this would have been blamed on the new guy. He would

29:46

have got some sort of fifteen million dollar

29:48

Amazon deal, and then he would have been

29:51

like twenty. fifteen a year. I mean, or twenty

29:53

or whatever. Right? I heard, like, twenty or a year from and

29:55

would have been the business college in broadcasting,

29:57

and that could have come back three years later if he felt

29:59

like it. Yep. Don't mark him out, Daniel. Pick

30:01

his job. You're right. You could have walked through the outdoor

30:03

years from them. Yeah. Number three.

30:06

Saturdays for the boys. I

30:09

like that one. I mean, how do you how do you

30:12

from your couch, send out a tweet,

30:14

the raiders are awful. Then two weeks

30:16

later, beat their ass. You

30:19

tell me. For the boys,

30:21

baby. Jessica, you seemed embarrassed by

30:23

the way that Tony delivered that.

30:25

I don't give a shit. Whoa. I

30:30

don't know what I'm wrong. Whoa. that

30:33

that you embarrass us. He likes his puns.

30:36

Number two, I told you

30:38

so. on Jacksonville

30:40

being the greatest team you've ever seen? Nope.

30:42

Missed one. Go back one more.

30:45

Did you guys talk about it yesterday at all or no? What

30:47

what did you tell us so, Kirk Cousins. Oh,

30:50

thank you, Dan. Wow. And

30:52

one, looking to be the best team in the NFC,

30:54

maybe the best team in football. We don't know.

30:57

But look at that, Kirk. So

30:59

number two is Yeah. Number

31:01

two isn't told you so. You you

31:03

know what I mean? got it. Okay. So because

31:05

Josh Allen -- Mhmm. --

31:08

because Josh Allen -- No. -- because Kurt Cousins,

31:11

on fourth down, obviously, great catchment.

31:13

That's what you guys were saying. Follow-up. He

31:16

was in the right spot. He was bailed out

31:18

by the single greatest catch any of us he's ever

31:20

seen. Otherwise, he would That was just one of the

31:22

things that he did. Frozen wrote

31:24

to to the Hopkinson on a fourth down,

31:26

the pass through to Justin Jefferson at the three yard

31:28

in between two defenders. I mean,

31:30

come on. Kirk is playing primetime ball right now. I don't

31:32

like Hockinson on the right ones. It doesn't look right

31:35

too. Is it the hair? Don't

31:37

write to me. That's gotta be losing in

31:39

somebody else's secondary wearing

31:42

a silver and blue. Number

31:44

one. Number one, there could only be one.

31:47

And and I'm glad I got to do it today because

31:50

we would have been robbed of it yesterday. But

31:52

number one, since put the green lizard.

31:55

Yeah. That's it. You guys with

31:57

Heineke. Is he still buying these shoes

31:59

every time that he be an opponent, the color

32:02

of the opponent that he's beaten. Is he himself?

32:04

Is that something that is he is he wearing

32:06

eagle eagle colors? Now you guys love Hynick

32:08

even though he's thoroughly average. He's just got magic.

32:11

that has to god saying, not surprisingly,

32:14

Ron Rivera, coach of the year. Oh,

32:16

boy. That's good thing. I mean I gotta write

32:18

that down. Damn, why not That team is five

32:20

and five in a very tough division. They got

32:23

everything swirling around that team.

32:25

Daniel Snyder's being pushed out,

32:27

trying to sell the team, all kinds of lawsuits,

32:30

the gridded thing, and here is Ron

32:32

Rivera, just standing there,

32:34

not saying anything, looking

32:36

angry, and coaching his team to

32:38

a five and five record. If that's

32:40

not coach the year material, I don't

32:43

know what is. So

32:45

have your owner be a dipshit? Yeah.

32:47

That helps. Do you know

32:49

Throw that back in temper tantrum out

32:52

far and went to where people asked you, what was the

32:54

problem with your why are you

32:56

different than anyone? Everyone else in the division's

32:58

response, his quarterback. He was right. He

33:01

was right. And then he throws the

33:03

tempered tantrum getting mad because he said that,

33:05

and storms out of a press conference. And since

33:07

then, The commanders are unstoppable. Yeah.

33:09

They're they're climbing up the coach of the year, Doug.

33:11

Stacy on the back. They're

33:14

climbing up the NMC's. Now

33:16

you posed to Philadelphia when none

33:18

of us understand. We're all confused

33:20

by that. mean, if you look at Philadelphia's

33:23

record, all their all their wins

33:25

It came against kind of subpar quarterbacks.

33:28

The best quarterback that they played was Kirk Cousins, but that

33:30

was a prime time game. So that doesn't count. Right.

33:33

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33:35

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those two things go together though. Don't bring

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36:47

there was no need for the reminder. I mean,

36:51

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36:54

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recent heat outing in public.

37:02

How did that not get more

37:04

of our attention yesterday? They gotta

37:06

stop encouraging him, man.

37:08

It's getting played out with the pillows on the shoes.

37:10

Not the first time he's gone to that well. At

37:13

this point, Jesse's

37:14

not doing anything new and exciting for

37:16

me to attention to tolerate it, man.

37:18

They tolerate this record.

37:20

For those who do not know though, I I'm not

37:23

obviously, not sneakerhead, but there it's

37:25

a pink pillow for is it Jordan Fives?

37:27

Is that what what he's wearing? Pink Jordan

37:29

Fives? And then he goes out on the court

37:31

and he's dribbling a lot, and I didn't see draft

37:33

kings, the the clip I saw, cut

37:36

away before what whatever it is that he was

37:38

gonna do with the basketball in terms of shooting

37:40

it, but he was dribbling it very poorly.

37:42

Apparently, he shot a three in Brexit. No.

37:46

According to Gerbert. What?

37:48

Not TJ. It's always It's a bit like letting

37:50

a toddler on the court, though. Is it not? It's

37:53

it's exactly what it is. They tolerate

37:55

it. And I'm just like, why? Why do you guys

37:57

Why do you guys put up with that? And and I

37:59

was told

37:59

it's

38:01

because he actually pays for his tickets.

38:04

Oh. What a idiot? you

38:06

pays for his own sports tickets? Couldn't

38:10

be me. Most of

38:12

the game I had to pay when I went to the heat next game

38:14

last year. paid to the next one hundred

38:16

kids.

38:16

You paid to go watch the Knicks play?

38:19

They

38:19

should pay you for that. I agree. agree.

38:22

Still

38:22

got to what happened. Why did your Knicks allow hundred

38:25

and forty five points? They're not very good, Dan.

38:27

To Oklahoma said, what happened? Tom

38:30

Pivot, was a defensive coach. They're not very

38:33

good. I mean, the Knicks are an

38:35

average team. That's where they are. I'll take it.

38:37

because

38:37

they've been a way below average team

38:39

for, like, twenty five years. So whatever's happened

38:41

the last three seasons, two years ago,

38:44

maybe the playoffs won a playoff game after, like,

38:46

we won a championship last year

38:48

didn't make the playoffs this year, five

38:50

hundred team. I'll take it. Twenty twenty two has

38:52

been a high watermark for Stuttgart's sports

38:54

team. And then it's like,

38:56

do no kind of bit of excellence

38:59

at all. Right? Like the Nets, the Jets, and the Knicks

39:01

have all been which

39:03

is a lot better than the Nets The

39:05

Nets won a hundred games. Yeah.

39:07

But they lost the wildcard. That's

39:10

a hundred win baseball team. That's not

39:12

a They played one more game on

39:14

the Marlitz, I mean. They

39:18

played a couple of more games. Two more

39:20

and Marlitz. three maybe. They

39:22

are a hundred win team. You cannot get

39:24

used to that when you're the person who settled for.

39:26

I'll take it five hundred and allowing a buck

39:29

forty five at home to Oklahoma City.

39:31

I'll take it from my team. You know, they've never

39:33

been like, they the mets have never

39:35

been my problem. The meds have had good years.

39:37

They won a world series in eighty six. They

39:40

went to the series in ninety one against the Yankee's,

39:42

I think. That's never really been the problem. The

39:44

Islanders have certainly never been problem.

39:46

They've won four Stanley Cups. The Jets

39:49

and Knicks had been a constant problem

39:51

in my life. And so the Jets are, like, things

39:53

are looking up for the jets. I still don't know if I have

39:55

a quarterback. And the next is just a five hundred

39:58

team, but I guess I'll take just being a five hundred

40:00

team. What's the the peak

40:02

jets fan them per union, like, with season.

40:04

Back to back AFC championship. Like, that's that's

40:06

the high What a month. Yes. That's yeah.

40:09

Park Sanchez and Rex Ryan. Yeah.

40:11

That's it. The butfumble. Mhmm.

40:13

Maybe that and, you know, eighty

40:15

three or eighty four AFC championship

40:18

game against the dolphins. Dodge

40:20

Schueller soaked the field, so it was a slow

40:22

track. He cheated AJ Dewey

40:24

with, like, three interceptions, maybe that. But

40:26

I was young. I was really young then, you

40:28

know? AJ Dewey, every time he comes up

40:30

around here, people are stunned to learn that he was

40:32

white. So is is

40:35

is

40:35

is this the second

40:37

greatest thing for you, Stuttgart and

40:40

jets and your jets fan of this season? Right.

40:42

This is sad, but not yet. Come on.

40:45

It can't Or, like, Chad, we're getting close to

40:47

head. Is it Chad Puddington and Wayne Cribetton?

40:49

Like, is is that Puddington had his best season

40:51

as a dolphin? which infuriates me.

40:53

He was sick of a big baby. went against

40:55

the chargers with

40:56

Paddington. Yeah. Yeah. but

40:59

not AFC championship. made cading

41:01

mister Fuell go. But I'm saying, like, what place?

41:03

If

41:04

if first place is Of course. forty

41:07

years of fifty years. Oh, I can't spend

41:09

them. As a jets fan. What second

41:11

place? Well,

41:12

you had back to back half dots me just works.

41:14

And guess eighty I guess that that

41:16

eighty three What's the third place then? I

41:19

mean,

41:19

like, it's it's amazing You have something

41:21

from nineteen eighty eight, and you got something

41:23

from what? Two thousand even Well, they went to

41:25

an AMC championship game. They did

41:27

onco's. I bought Super Bowl tickets before the

41:29

game is over. I just saw Did you guys lead

41:31

at halftime? Did you guys lead at halftime? Yeah. You guys lead at halftime.

41:34

Ninety seven. I think that was Yeah.

41:36

Nice. Did you just invent that the Nets

41:38

went to the World Series against the Yankee's in nineteen

41:40

ninety one? He did. Software Series. I don't know what was.

41:44

Well, in -- Wow. -- it was ten years later.

41:47

I thought it was something. I was, like, going back

41:49

and I'm, like, man, I was just a kid at that time, but

41:51

I feel that doesn't sound right. I'm just saying

41:53

the Nets haven't been the problem for me. The Nets have

41:55

done some winning. The big problem for me

41:57

is the Knicks and the Jets. Those are the Knicks. The Knicks

41:59

have done

41:59

some me and others won four straight when

42:02

I was a kid. The Knicks have been have done some

42:04

winning. It's twenty years ago, but, like,

42:06

you can go through the the entire nineties, being

42:08

a Knicks fan was exciting. Exciting.

42:11

Yes. Yeah. The jets. That's what I mean. The

42:13

jets is the crazy one because it's like a

42:15

blip here, a bloop there,

42:17

and everything else is object failure.

42:19

Right. But with the next, you kinda knew the out as

42:21

exciting as that was, we all knew the outcome.

42:24

It was okay. We're gonna face the bowl like, everyone

42:26

else. Face the balls and lose the George. You know?

42:28

It's

42:28

tough when you're a sports fan and your team

42:30

is really good at the same time as, like,

42:33

one of the most legendary sports

42:35

dynasties ever. Like, it's

42:37

tough being a fan of any NFL

42:39

team over the last fifteen years. That's

42:41

been really, really good. The maybe the best

42:43

in the modern era, but Tom Brady

42:45

in the Patriots, what's happening at the same time. Has him

42:47

in to being a jazz fan, oddly enough. Not

42:49

at all. Well,

42:50

maybe a couple teams can probably

42:53

say that that's

42:53

the case. twice. They know the dice out

42:55

of out of the big deal lately. The

42:57

giants that weren't even in the middle of any

42:59

sort of dynasty when that happened. Like, they just played

43:01

really well and they were Yes. they won the Super

43:03

Bowl. I I don't think you were here when

43:06

I explained the greatest fan that I

43:08

have in my life is a giant fan because here's

43:10

the deal. they're never good

43:12

for extended amounts of time, but they're always great

43:14

once a decade. So in my lifetime,

43:17

Super Bowl in the eighties. civil in the nineties,

43:19

civil in the two thousands, civil in the two thousand

43:21

tens, the twenty twenties just started. I

43:23

have seven more years for them win

43:25

me one civil and then I'm content. we

43:27

are we are football c student.

43:30

Yeah. We show up on that for that final

43:32

look onto one with Gary Collins. Man,

43:34

me. That wasn't when Jason Seaborne's pants

43:36

started falling down. Jesus. I think there's

43:38

a

43:38

lot of college football fans who are excited

43:41

for Nick Sabin to retire just because

43:43

they had teams that were really good

43:45

in the two thousand two thousand tens.

43:47

But it seems like Georgia's on a run though now.

43:49

Right? I think 11I

43:50

don't think you can really like,

43:52

say anything till maybe five years from

43:54

now. Like and even if even if that's the case,

43:56

like, Nick Sabin in Alabama, that's, like, a multi

43:58

decade run of dominance that

44:00

you can't declare Georgia is going to have anything

44:03

close to that yet. They might. They're

44:05

doing incredibly well. and they're

44:07

set up for success in the future, but you can't

44:09

say that yet. And so I think, like, George is

44:11

probably one of those teams and and surely,

44:13

like, Michigan Notre

44:16

Dame even, like, teams that have had really

44:18

solid teams over the last fifteen

44:20

years, but they happen to be playing at the same

44:22

time that Alabama exists. and so you're

44:24

just not gonna win anything.

44:25

Do you think Nick Sabin's ever gonna retire?

44:28

Like, that seems like one that's just

44:30

I've heard I've heard people, coachable reporters

44:33

speculating that this was his last season

44:35

already. And I don't know where that's coming from

44:37

because I haven't heard He's not going out like

44:39

Any sort of indication from him that

44:41

he wants to retire, but I have heard people

44:43

speculating

44:44

about it, Billy. If you were Nick

44:46

Sabin and you saw what was changing

44:48

here, why would you wanna keep going

44:51

as as everything your

44:53

advantages disappeared. Like the reason

44:55

his genius in the pros

44:58

was non existent. He goes to college.

45:00

He has no salary cap. He can make his coaching

45:02

staff, you know, forty people

45:05

large. And he realizes and

45:07

I've told you these stories before. He was running

45:09

a business long before everyone else figured out that

45:11

they were running the business. He wins the championship

45:14

on the plane ride home. He is negotiating the

45:16

next terms on everything he wants for his program

45:18

because he had all the money advantages. Because

45:21

they could somehow do it clean.

45:24

Their machine was working. Nobody was getting

45:26

caught. And now all of a sudden, everyone

45:28

can throw money. Why would he want to

45:31

play Why

45:32

would he wanna keep going? Because

45:33

he's, like, the most competitive person

45:35

alive. Right. Because he's built something that

45:37

he probably doesn't wanna walk away from

45:39

yet. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HIS

45:41

FUTURE IS AND I THINK THAT IT'S A

45:43

LITTLE PREMIUTURE TO BE LIKE WRITING HIS OBITUARY

45:46

WHEN THE SEASON HASN'T EVEN ENDED Like, this is

45:48

still Oh, but

45:48

they should They could have lost five times this year.

45:51

Yeah. Georgia could have lost to Missouri. Like, it's They

45:53

also could have on the beach. played

45:54

close games and they don't, like, go your

45:57

way. And normally, they do go Alabama's way.

45:59

They have an incredibly talented quarterback

46:01

and they're missing a lot of the players a

46:03

wide receiver on the outside on defense

46:05

that they've had over the past few years. That has changed

46:07

for Alabama that they don't have those guys

46:09

right now. But think it's a little premature to be

46:11

like, well, Nick Sabin can't win in this

46:13

new college football era. It's like, I'm not

46:16

I'm not willing to say that. It's like you would have

46:18

to can't. I know, but I I have heard

46:20

this discussion about this Alabama

46:22

team and how this is the first time since two thousand

46:24

ten, they've had two regular season losses,

46:27

and how, like, insane that is. In twelve

46:29

years, they've never lost two regular

46:31

season games. And now they've lost it to Tennessee on

46:33

the last play of game and to LSU

46:35

on the last play.

46:36

They lost two games by a combined four points.

46:38

Right. Right. And And but the team

46:40

doesn't it's the team's not as good as

46:42

his past teams. Like Yeah.

46:44

But those games are at Tennessee at LSU.

46:46

He almost won those games. I I

46:47

agree with you. It could be a very like,

46:50

if you change a couple things and maybe they

46:52

beat Tennessee, but they lose Texas and

46:54

M. You know, like, it's just it's been a weird

46:56

season. Texas. Right. But,

46:58

I mean, I still think it's premature to

47:01

make me to, like, make anything

47:03

out of it other than, like, this team's missing

47:05

a few pieces who's to say there?

47:07

I I don't think it's so soon just

47:09

because he said how scared he

47:11

is. You can hear it. Well, he signed a contract extension

47:13

for ninety-three point six million dollars that

47:15

runs through twenty thirty season. So

47:18

not going any night. Is it gonna be a lot?

47:21

Is that is that a fair fashion No. Not a

47:23

lot, but not at all. that he's only seventy

47:25

one. So He does look great. does look

47:27

great, but, I mean, the the stress of

47:29

coaching, it can't be I was

47:31

saying James Franklin, So they shouldn't be doing

47:34

push ups at fifty. Right? The experiment does

47:36

a lot of screaming at seventy one. It's like,

47:38

let's just, you know, think of the old ticker here. You know

47:40

what I mean? Like, what are we doing? Calm down. eighty years

47:42

old in coaching. It's college football. There's

47:44

precedent for it. That's why I'm asking, like, do you

47:46

Do you think he's gonna retire? Do you think that,

47:49

like, it will just end

47:51

naturally? Or do you think something will

47:53

come about at some point that it's like you gotta

47:55

go? because, like, he's been good for

47:57

a really long time. And and, like,

47:59

to

47:59

point, like, just

48:01

because they're having an off year doesn't mean the game's

48:03

passed them by. Like, why would you think that they've

48:05

been such a constant for, like, twenty years now

48:07

where no one else you'll have people come and

48:09

go, you'll have teams that they're good this

48:11

year, oh, they're gonna be a dynasty, and then Steven

48:13

just eliminates them. But Billy, he can

48:16

make this money up just by if he wants

48:18

to go on college game day. If he wants to I don't think

48:20

it's about money, but someone would

48:22

offer him a lot of money, though. Right? But you think that

48:24

you could just walk away. Like, he's not gonna

48:26

admit don't think they'll walk away, but if

48:28

you're factoring in compensation, which

48:31

I'm not because he's made enough money, he can make more

48:33

if he did something else, then I don't think it's about that.

48:35

I think it's about him being competitive. That's all.

48:37

So it's interesting, Billy asked, like, would

48:39

he walk away? Because this brings

48:41

up the what I like to call the pickup

48:43

paradox. You ever go play pickup basketball,

48:46

and you go there and you win 234 games

48:48

in a row. And after what, you're like, I'm tired. I wanna

48:50

stop. Be like, no.

48:52

I can't leave until someone beats me.

48:54

Right? So now you're forcing yourself to

48:56

win. But then when you lose, you say, well,

48:58

I've gotta offends that loss. and so you're

49:01

in this nonstop cycle. So do you think

49:03

Sabin is gonna walk

49:05

on top like you all have one enough, I'm tired

49:07

of this? Or Is he gonna walk

49:09

after he's been beaten and just say, you

49:11

know, this isn't fun anymore? If

49:13

I may, because I do think

49:15

you guys are skipping pass in the entire

49:17

time that they've been dominating the sport, they've never

49:19

had a season where I thought they were gonna lose five

49:22

times.

49:22

No. No. Statistically, like, they're having

49:25

their worst season in over a decade.

49:27

May maybe, like, ever. Chris Falcon had a really

49:29

good start on Game Day about, like, the margin

49:31

of victory this season and Oh, bear. I

49:34

I don't remember what it was, but it basically

49:36

said just that. Like, with with what you're saying

49:38

about, like, oh, they're one play way from

49:40

five and five or whatever it is. Like, that borne

49:42

out in the statistics. It's not as good

49:45

of a team as Alabama's used to. That

49:47

is correct. I'm saying that

49:49

I don't know if that means we can

49:51

say anything other than this is not a great

49:53

year for Alabama. would like But I'd

49:57

I'd make the leap, though, from that.

49:59

If you give me

49:59

five Alabama games that are that close,

50:02

one of them's against Texas A and M, which is three

50:04

and six without their quarterback. But you give

50:06

me five of them. And I'm gonna say, you know what? They don't

50:08

have the talent advantage that they used to.

50:10

Period. Not comma. Like it failed now

50:12

in one season. But can but can

50:14

he, when everyone else, has all of a same

50:17

tools that he now Yeah. Number one recruiting

50:19

class slated right now in the four seven sport.

50:22

Yeah. That's my question. That's where the

50:24

extension comes in, by the way. It's not that

50:26

doesn't really matter. It's just the perception of,

50:28

hey, Nick Sabin's older, and that's how other

50:31

schools may have the edge when it comes to

50:33

negative recruiting. How how long is Nick Sabin

50:35

gonna be the real all he has to do is point

50:37

to an extension. I'm gonna be here till two thousand and thirty. None

50:39

of it matters. See, but then that's my question.

50:41

You say, I can't remember an Alabama

50:43

season where they had five games where

50:46

I felt like they could've lost it. I'm asking,

50:48

does that push him to say, no.

50:50

I gotta fix this because I ain't going out like

50:52

this. Or

50:53

does does that the flag in his mind that

50:55

says, you know what, man? I think it pushes him. It's I

50:57

don't think he wants to go out and just like

50:59

he didn't make the call football. His legacy

51:01

is so cemented. I know the guy

51:03

that could have that was possible chasing him

51:05

was urban. But Mike, you think this is the way he

51:07

would if he ended it right now, if he ends

51:09

it in a month, think this is the way. don't imagine

51:12

Nick Sabin going out. I don't imagine Nick Sabin

51:14

ever going. Alright. It's hard. It's

51:16

unfathomable. I get or college football without

51:18

names. I've heard a lot more chatter about it this year.

51:20

I follow a lot of the same people that that

51:23

Jess does. And and in the recruiting circles

51:25

too, that's picked up lot of

51:27

steam with regards to the Auburn

51:29

job, which keep an eye on that because

51:31

there were some shock names that they're

51:34

actually working on. Condolee is a rice.

51:36

That would be shocking. I don't

51:38

know what I'm saying. People

51:39

experience with the browns. People

51:41

look at Auburn. and they look at it as

51:44

an opportunity to actually

51:46

improve their situation. So

51:49

even though I know he's always viewed as

51:52

in Alabama guy, keep an eye on DABO

51:54

kind of backchanneling. And if anything,

51:56

you'll get another extension in clemson out

51:58

of it, but the Auburn job, specifically,

52:01

the cell is and I know you've seen the facilities.

52:04

They went super viral, is Nick Sabin's gonna

52:06

be gone here in couple of years. They seem to feel

52:08

very strongly about it. But Dan, you're talking about

52:10

Alabama losing their institutional advantage

52:13

over college football by virtue of how

52:15

Nick Sabin dominated recruiting in NIL

52:17

has completely opened it up. Wouldn't

52:19

Nick Salmon almost want to recreate

52:22

those very same institutional advantages

52:25

in this new era? conquer NIL,

52:27

conquer all the changes, conquer the transfer portal,

52:29

and you eventually figure out how to

52:32

take this sport over again. It's a completely

52:34

new mold a new model that you're gonna have to

52:36

follow in order to break it. Took them one off

52:38

season to correct what was going on with

52:40

Texas A and M where Texas A and M had the number

52:42

one recruiting class and Alabama is

52:44

doing very well right now.

52:46

You can't do better than number one. We'll

52:49

say though, you're

52:50

seeing recruits flip. That's

52:52

not necessarily something that would ever

52:54

happen. And that's something that you have to come

52:56

to grips with in the NIH. Yes. They'll

52:59

get most of the talent. they're not

53:01

gonna get all of the talent, and it'll

53:03

be spread a little bit more. But can

53:05

he still say, like, to recruit some point to

53:07

this heck, jail and hurts? played here.

53:09

To a played here. Bryce Young played here.

53:11

That guy, Derek, I replayed here. Jaylen

53:13

Waddle played here. This is what I turned

53:16

college players. The recruiting pitch is

53:17

still and and having all of

53:19

the five stars doesn't mean you're gonna win anything.

53:21

Look at Texas A and M this season. Like,

53:23

you can have those parts of the formula work

53:26

for you and you can have the NFL

53:28

Collectives and be able to, like, get, you

53:30

know, the recruiting pitch to these players and get

53:32

them to your school. He's proven that he can actually

53:35

coach these players and put them at Indiana fell

53:37

in droves. that hasn't changed.

53:39

So I just think that might

53:42

might this be kind of a dwindling

53:44

of a of an empire for Alabama and

53:46

Next Avon? I don't think that

53:48

I can say that. That's all I can say.

53:50

I don't know. It just seems like

53:53

a lot of rushing to a conclusion about

53:55

something that's not even finished yet.

53:57

Oh, but I don't even view it as

53:59

an indictment of them or a one year

54:01

sample. I'm just saying, if

54:03

a game is to pass a seventy one

54:05

year old buy, think you guys

54:07

are being flipping about how difficult

54:09

it is for seventy one year old to be like,

54:11

oh, I dominated this way. Oh, you want me

54:14

to dominate over here this way? okay. I'll do

54:16

it this way over here. I'll change my way.

54:18

People said the same thing about him, like, needing

54:20

to freshen up his offense, and he brought Lane Kiffen

54:23

in and did just that like he's smart enough

54:25

to know when he needs to bring people in to help

54:27

him do the things to make the program

54:29

and the team and the style play relevant.

54:32

That's

54:32

That's where I

54:33

trust you. saying eventually you arrive

54:35

at an age where it's like, okay. Maybe I can't do I

54:37

don't know what that age. I don't know what that age

54:39

is, but if I put a of ingredients in front

54:41

of you, it'd look a lot like this. Like,

54:43

I'm not saying it. So he will have he's

54:45

built up such an advantage over everyone that

54:48

he can state Three years after his death, they'll

54:50

still be getting good recruiting classes, but

54:52

they've come close to losing five times

54:54

this year. And and the the advantages

54:57

they used to have and look at that schedule because

54:59

it hasn't shown anything yet.

55:01

Like that schedule, the teams they beat and you, you

55:03

all know, all of them.

55:04

Mississippi, I think that was probably their

55:07

big biggest one of the season this past weekend. But

55:09

yeah. I mean, I think, Dan, to your point,

55:11

there's old seventy year olds and there's young

55:13

seventy year olds. Mhmm. There's seventy year olds

55:15

who are, like, on Facebook and they're spreading,

55:18

like, conspiracy theories to, like, all

55:20

their, like, fifty year old kids.

55:22

And then there's seven year olds who are, like,

55:24

in a retirement home and they play what's

55:27

it? Marchy, Yeah. Perching.

55:29

Triple board. large eyes on it. I was thinking

55:31

of that game crib garbage. Privilege. Privilege.

55:35

We all get strong. We are we five

55:37

great old people there. We like savings. He

55:39

he hangs around twenty year olds all day. I feel like

55:41

he's a young seventy. Alright? I'll give him the benefit

55:44

of the doubt that he's a young seventy. And he's like, I

55:46

still have a few more years He's trying to crack this

55:48

code. The hair die helps. I'm on Facebook.

55:50

I'm on Snapface.

55:52

I love you. He is a young seventeen. He's

55:54

been a brave for forty years. Is

55:57

he was gray when he was a brown's defensive

55:59

coordinator? Who's younger?

56:01

Nick Sabin or Tom Hanks.

56:03

Hanksy. Hanks for You know, I'm not

56:05

talking about Like, the years on on

56:07

Earth. I was talking about, like, in terms of

56:10

behavior, Tom Hanks. Mhmm. I

56:12

think Tom Hanks is younger. Yes. man,

56:14

what? Colin Hanks told us he can't

56:16

even stream music. You think he's young at

56:18

the Knicks -- Yes. -- you think he's young at the Knicks -- Yeah. -- you think he's young at the

56:21

Knicks. -- you think he's young at the

56:21

Knicks. Brown or Nick

56:23

Sabin. Like,

56:24

actual age or, like, the baby. Brown

56:26

is, like, sixty eight or something.

56:27

Matt Brown is the exact same age as

56:29

Nick Sabin, but he's an old seventies. Nick

56:32

Sabin is a young savage.

56:33

shocking. Yeah. I gotta tell

56:35

you, backgrounds, not

56:37

caring anymore. Well, it's been a long

56:39

time. He's he's been eating good sake houses

56:41

for a long time. If you let it go, he let

56:43

it rip this off. He's not just this afternoon.

56:46

He was I saw him on the sun. I'm

56:48

like, my god. The

56:51

the the warm up suits, the sweat suits. Yes. Oh,

56:54

yeah. She's a geeky party. I am having

56:56

an amazing share buyback. nine in one.

56:58

He's great. a lot of times. Drake may even

57:00

better make to do they still do

57:02

it at the downtown athletic club? No. I think it's at

57:04

Barclays. No. Oh, really? I think That's

57:06

a solid charm. You're nice. it has

57:09

lost. Put it on the polling memo at Libertage

57:11

Show. Has the Heisman lost all its charm?

57:13

The downtown athletic club just found

57:15

like a little building in that place. I know

57:17

what it is. trust me, I know what is it, guys.

57:19

Well, it's still different. What do you what is it

57:21

coming? there. No. It's

57:24

good. It's very smooth. to

57:27

me. Perfect. time. I thought she was

57:29

gonna say that there's all types of, like,

57:31

misconduct that was happening there. I'm like, oh

57:33

my god. You were Well, it doesn't look like it. like

57:37

bad history there or something like that. I got

57:39

yelled at wearing jeans in the lobby twice,

57:41

so I don't know what he is. You're gonna learn

57:43

the first time. First time. Yeah. All right.

57:46

around you. might have been the New York athletic club.

57:48

It might not have been the downtown club. I

57:50

was thinking about the New York athletic club.

57:52

There is also a homeboy. You

57:55

gotta be shitting me. Let's

57:57

do the What are the workings of athletic

57:59

clubs and being snobby? Why

58:01

are athletic