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the ground to cover i'm a little confused
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here we got popular dolphins these list serve
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pretty terrible so far as got unpopular
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examine yeah we've got your as
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we aim at least popular dolphin
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might as well as us and number for
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billie number for most popular
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thought that of all time i answer that
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larry zamka sized number
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forced to that zach thomas
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the world linebacker crushes
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was you are a number for
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my groin i also adler his own
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go awry they
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started this indulges well as
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high up for guy
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the you guys are like no one under the age of
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he knows who that is yeah you
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generalize as i said these lists are terrible
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number three don't have anybody under the age of a
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dismissive were all was
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mikko grime ah me go grimes
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assists five that
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, be unpopular through the
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we are no we no no
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no no now she had her moments in south
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philly this is only your less because you
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love on my list yes yes and my
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dogs and you'd loved her because
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as the wife of brent grimes
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on was very articulate and
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he was more popular than or has been a dolphin
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hit our deaths are now is that a period
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where is really good is number one corner a private
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now popular bread drives his own polarizing
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because of his wife number of
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press covers resist can immediately looks
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down ago that well you know what
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a great time how did how is
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this just number three for your belly editor
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i am a lot of nearly as high as
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yeah a number three my grier
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jason taylor wow
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mercury dad made canada
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more white linebackers right
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up there with bobby offered off a mean
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the only bob
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offer dollars and woods or thousand that
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yeah bob offer
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modern day don't breakfast sandwich off and on
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a billie number three number
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two san marino ah
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military is so me go drugs
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is number three as as a dan
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marino number two yeah
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the crazy less than the man the
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gods number two my goal
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there was a cup of coffee but it was a great
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guy coffee amazon's going as
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a big moments for the dominant role models
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godly did not have some big moment as
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see do had no big moments for the dolphins
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zero , moment illicit our topic
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and and numbered to max
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i offered officer fast as number
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to number bagel or don shula
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i gray and what is your number one
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florida ballsy are you not to
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buster traded our number one
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all the south florida sports raiders there
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were living in a historical moment right now
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it's a jonathan hoover dam mckenzie eager
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for i said forget dravidian
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lab are allowed know a it
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is that by got a great player
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my my one the president's trophy they
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they target for and as the second where i
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where who did not have the season of the player
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they can traded sino had buddies
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five years younger than me i understand
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all of that mattered to talk is a very high
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ceiling this is god's see
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for them to do and it is totally
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unpopular which adds to the balls of
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it's that's why it's my number one very
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sexy of was outside looking outside looking
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start a fire cel is not ballsy because
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everyone sees that com and know when the got him
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or when i got when they got him out
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to is he gonna go in well
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as he goes and isn't going to go into the marlins
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now he's actually go
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any a wants to but that doesn't
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mean that he will when i associate him with the marlins
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he played for a tears but when they got his prime
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the marlins goes so if you look at the numbers
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on got his prime i think part of the problem
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is his prime have and well after
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it should have it didn't really make a lot of senses some
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folks and that's what he's going at west bessie
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the with the brave you
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might have been winning keys or the
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padres you could i mean he had he
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was so good for so long regardless does
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not qualify does not make the top
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five we've gotta get to least popular
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dolphin some us to god's your
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number one most popular will number
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one with you know i'm online yet popular
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dolphin out or is right up to go
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like his best season was with the dodgers
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by the way our number one am i was right
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after my goal like is dan marino
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when , started because he said
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larry zongo is the most popular the most is
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he on your list and that i started thinking
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about that was then this is now i made
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zoc no longer on the less i think it started
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with dan arguing that saving howard
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was a tough task is not on any
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of these not top ten i had
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him as the most part is my life as is
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confusing but the mit you know
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my through a body bagels i
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forgot about it of sad
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settings in i must as if it would
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later lead his ear lady letter to a super
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bowl had been the most is truly
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terrible nothing to me several up my
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fly and number one your number
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one of the man
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i'm really slippery
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it might ryan's top
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five least popular dolphins
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of all time first off
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let me get some i'll ally chris whittingham
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can you turn on your microphone for my o l i
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just wanna say something in there should be a trigger
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warning associated with this segment yeah like
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an epilepsy warning before you tube videos
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if your passion a dolphin fan this
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list will trigger you did so you'd
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say like the i every once in awhile
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i don't know when this started but these
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these shows either put if you're trauma victims
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you gotta be careful with some trauma but also
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there are some saying with
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lights and lighting that they're
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telling me i epilepsy before
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but before is that all their warning me
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all know is that only epileptic
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fits because i do not worry see a most if
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he watches a video on you tube if
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you watch a music video don't know come with them
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or via read zoc outfielder that
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guy needs to investigate the outside
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so all along we can you do it all before
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, get into the top five least popular
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miami dolphins of our of all time oh
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like we're going to go woods or more fletcher off
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last year ago with him
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or colombo ah eyes eyes
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going to go with said jim said our
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lives said did you did are going to go david
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bossie fries with
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sean avery and because
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he could have been randy moss oh
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yeah that one that area with me so grimes
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i know it's in direct conflict with your liver and
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vertigo would say fiedler one
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game oh no no no we're going over
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jay cutler know a month
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ago with save one says we're
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going to have ago sad whites oh
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yeah save was yeah not
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at one time he rear back in atlanta and try
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to throw rear d bomb he threw it out of the stadium
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is reviewing food as stewards ago we're
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going to go with korea lemon an
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animal wire suits at
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ago at eighty is on back garden
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of offensive coordinators on this list that
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is had managed imo size
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daily and henning saw
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it as he dame and body
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blow up ah syntax is
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ferguson's him then we rode
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nedney your now small is shown
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as mills and frenzy as ah missed so
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many or i peered out now
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number five ryan
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tanning it's
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out number for i'm in under
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five oh god yes seven
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seas allowance
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number four make jason allen
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and nick saban memorial se si pick
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who could they have was have or that was saban
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out once turbo know that allowed that least
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once hours when not nick saban
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was do nothing but taking guys the coast against
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and the se si no little forced
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to got you see a green
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instead of
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somebody is he old known as yours
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are no ah
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i'm looking ethan allen was picked fifteenth
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yeah he went three picks later antonio cromartie
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when the corner i'm mixing
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him up with a corner that ones that took twenty
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sir as you buyers americans are legitimate
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or analyze the i was i was brees
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could have been moved number three bucks
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has heard oral history or or reggie wayne
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yep the could have been just part
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of it correct john every every saturday which
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ivory that's the only that happening which
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on a very know that in the lack of success
11:09
on the field number three i
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mean who could forget he miss a big deal go on the superbowl
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or a single assuming
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johnson said to my face master talent
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evaluator white is that avery was
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the right pick over randy moss it
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will be the reason is added to my face assess
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assess as did he get a real for quick
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is going to be it's you're not going to believe what a scab
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a star this john avery's innovate
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to his credit did turn out to be a standup
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comedians a multi talented v you must
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give me about it or his own yes you
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do no good
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what totally mean
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remember the smell of chips on your breath when
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you told me the job neighboring was many
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laws
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swagger written by dave hyde in
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bookstores now number
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ago the superbowl ray finkle sorry
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to arizona nice
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day people often at it is
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sports illustrated very divisive moves
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number one might think saban
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the
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here's to make dolphins dollars is
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on that one her
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i have never seen a town
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and eight eighty one but why
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me i don't care less know he was on
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my all idea i mean there goes
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bartman in chicago and nick
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saban in south florida there's
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still the residual effects of that whenever
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i see his face sixteen years
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later like i still recognize
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there's probably going to have any way and is
13:14
graded college coaching it serves you can't really
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argue with his legacy butts i
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know most people hate nick saban but i especially
13:21
hate mix i'd say you move on i discover
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what is a science my lawyer
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and fraud he was home and the
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year of our lord two thousand and six since
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i was so you teen
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years in our looking the cavern said i'm
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not going to be the alabama head coach
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that's surprising that's to god's would reward
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i mean com leite roar going to go
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down as one of the greatest coaches ever and on
13:45
that all resume is gonna be worse for the dolphin
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the southern fried his daughter canals
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faults in fact he should be number one i was
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right as was set up a who is number
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one on your last day was game bogey ever
13:56
but now go a doctor canal
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well let's start there then with sean
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raja [unk] sap he is a fateful
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dot com and he has done reporting
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that we have not i thought mcmahon vince
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mcmahon was going to survive everything
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and i'm assuming but do not know that
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vince mcmahon just leapt reluctantly
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from a burning building because there was
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no other choice so it's framed as retirement
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but the sex scandals were climbing on him i'm
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making assumptions that aren't terribly inform
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sean raw sap is done the reporting and
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migraine just told you there is now news
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in the world of wrestling this is all very seismic
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right sean thank you for joining us by the way
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a pretty have a me it is very
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seismic until you within the the pro wrestling
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world it's absolutely seismic because
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since the day that wrestling stop being
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regional and his table t v
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and became a global thing
16:49
vince mcmahon has been at the forefront of that
16:51
as very few times
16:54
that history has anybody else even been neck
16:56
and neck let alone running his
16:58
company so that this is of
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a major deal it's gonna have some pretty pretty
17:02
significant ramifications for that company i
17:04
did not think anything could climb up
17:06
and grabbed mcmahon so what are we talking
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about here is going to come out shortly
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with additional reporting allegations
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crimes what's course because already
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it seems like i he had weathered
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the accusations of crimes that was
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n n accusations of
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crimes against women and
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i thought once you whether those he
17:28
would whether all of them in the age of shamelessness
17:30
why wasn't able to
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it also i mean it's sort of that that
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double edged sword for him is the age
17:37
of same of this but it's also that age of were
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news can be spread this far
17:42
more easy than when he had a
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rape allegations in the early nineteen nineties
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worthy of the steroids trial even which was
17:49
huge and then of
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allegations in the mid twenty tens
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i think the wall street journal that a great job
17:56
of of reporting a lot of a
17:59
lot of this about the in
17:59
the a's and things associated with
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with
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the to go relationships within his office but
18:06
when when you look at it i know that they're
18:08
working on other stories for sure they're working
18:10
on other stories because i've spoken to former
18:12
wrestlers talent reached
18:14
out to for those stories but
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i mean he was very defiant the
18:19
day the story first came out
18:21
in putting himself on television
18:24
going against other people's
18:26
wishes
18:27
then he kept on doing it repeatedly a guy
18:30
who would barely been on television for
18:32
the last couple of years as all of a sudden pops
18:34
up to say welcome this friday
18:36
night smackdown welcomed or ah here's
18:38
john cena like just like
18:41
just throwing himself on t v
18:43
so i hi another talent
18:46
in the company are of the belief that something else
18:48
has gotta be coming or that board
18:50
investigation that kicked off in april
18:52
kind of secretly may have
18:54
uncovered something or pressured him out h
18:56
b o real sport zoos investigating
18:59
he's left a trail of
19:01
people's physically broken who
19:03
i'm sure would love to be on camera
19:05
telling you the truth finally about how
19:07
vince mcmahon wrong ram that operation
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so sean you're an expert how did
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he run that operation
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well i won't say that it was like an open
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type of saying that vince mcmahon
19:19
had done this stuff and sign
19:21
these in da's there were like
19:23
some jokes backstage
19:26
among the writing team if he was late somebody
19:28
would say all while he must be with so
19:31
and so on so that
19:33
there were some assumptions but
19:35
i don't know there were people outright
19:38
in the company that were like yeah well we know
19:40
that he's doing this i know his top talent
19:42
didn't know they were floored
19:44
by some of this stuff despite the on screen
19:46
persona and and sort of the brass
19:49
demeanor that he as
19:50
i completed the tell it also had no idea
19:53
that he was retiring to the point where one of them
19:55
briefly walk out brock lesnar briefly
19:57
walked out ahead of bar last friday
20:00
though and i came back so
20:03
there's so many different moving parts from
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a guy that
20:06
a lot of people view as the person to give
20:08
them their opportunity and to present
20:10
wrestling in this light that it
20:12
is currently to as
20:15
guy probably shouldn't put himself on tv he shouldn't
20:17
be acting like this he shouldn't be so boisterous
20:20
with allegations like this because it
20:22
doesn't seem like he was taking them seriously
20:24
whatsoever so i can explain
20:26
to the audience sean why it is this
20:29
is such seismic news i
20:31
can make the argument could i not that vince
20:33
mcmahon is the biggest figure in
20:36
the history of professional wrestling right
20:38
up there with hulk hogan and a
20:40
and and anyone you care to mention legacy
20:43
icon built the sport you
20:45
could do it absolutely make that argument i think
20:47
that hogan and vince needed
20:49
each other to become what wrestling
20:51
as yeah
20:52
so that guy going down and
20:54
initially doing so would bravado in defiance
20:57
you can't touch me but he's got a publicly
20:59
selling company accompanies this
21:01
is all about that corrected still be
21:03
in charge would he not if we words
21:06
china you know what the value
21:08
in a place that would make mincemeat man retire
21:10
eventually anyway
21:11
one hundred percent and when when i got the news
21:13
the first thing i did was rejected debate between
21:15
say clarify this is not a storyline
21:18
where i mean the sky blew
21:21
himself up in a limo at one point in
21:23
the only reason that that that
21:25
that that death angle didn't continue was
21:27
because a horrible tragedy happened
21:29
with the week following there are people within
21:31
the company that don't fully believe that
21:34
he will be d vested in the companies that he
21:36
will still be involved and creative the
21:38
business end of that
21:39
most people assume that he's just
21:42
he's stepping away they got nicked on their nut
21:44
cons got a wonderful track record of
21:46
of handling are a lot of things like that's
21:48
from a creative aspect that's
21:51
what vincent man has had a stranglehold
21:53
specifically on and everybody
21:55
thought that it would it would take him being
21:57
they're being dead before that would add
21:59
her subside
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what does it mean the triple h
22:04
allegedly would take over creative
22:06
from vince
22:07
what's shocking for what i mean debbie to
22:09
be had a sub brand nxt
22:11
the started as their developmental sort of their minor
22:14
leagues and he ran
22:16
it and heated such a good job with that
22:18
it got a cable tv deal is
22:20
started to sell out arenas and it
22:22
it did well on it's own but
22:24
they very much disassembled his
22:26
vision of that so deputy be he had really
22:29
established that his vision of creative
22:31
ads hiring talent and all that wasn't
22:33
what they wanted moving forward so him
22:36
being back in this role is surprising
22:38
to a lot of people but also exciting
22:40
a lot of people go it's something
22:42
we haven't seen
22:43
the level before sean his
22:45
legacy will be what
22:48
man i will for some people
22:51
that that for their blinders on it'll be as bad
22:53
guy that made pro wrestling
22:55
as we know it today for
22:57
people who don't have blinders on it will be
23:00
this it will be a guy who started to be
23:02
to beauty who's exit
23:04
was mired with controversy and really could
23:06
say the entire thing was mired in
23:08
controversy from you
23:11
concussions then and steroids
23:13
and again
23:15
the allegations that that are at play
23:17
as that that will exist and a lot
23:19
of people's mind i think especially younger people's
23:21
mind as well that aren't so attached
23:24
to the hulk hogan the rock
23:26
the steve austin i didn't grow up with that and
23:28
romanticize it nearly as much
23:31
sean for those who do not know vince mcmahon
23:33
and in my childhood he introduced
23:35
me to this sport as the sideline
23:38
announcer before gino girl
23:40
and as i couldn't believe that usa
23:42
network cable television beyond the
23:45
networks are had good
23:47
wrestling matches as opposed to the crap that
23:49
i was watching on saturday and
23:51
then he builds the entirety of the
23:53
sport but so i can you tell us
23:55
the worst of what he presided
23:57
over because i don't know if
23:59
audience knows exactly how despicable
24:03
the core of the sport was
24:05
well the nancy argentino
24:08
allegations were probably the worse
24:10
but that we've come to learn more about
24:13
jimmy jimmy superfly snuck guy and
24:15
and that type of situation and
24:17
the allegations that vincent man
24:20
had apart
24:21
uncovering that up making sure that wasn't
24:23
out there i'm emily audience
24:25
that does not know jimmy snow got accused murderer
24:28
like covering up a murderer is what you're talking
24:30
about their yes
24:31
and that that seems to
24:33
be as we have probably the worst but there
24:36
are so many like the miniature
24:38
elements that and there was a
24:41
horrible like bullying culture and
24:43
and hazing culture for for a while as
24:45
well that
24:46
this existed and
24:48
was commonplace to the point where you will hear
24:51
old timers come back and say are
24:53
these guys are back here play and video games
24:55
not not one not one men were men
24:58
and they they hate each other and bullied each
25:00
other and that
25:01
that's a a a culture that they kind
25:03
of cultivated and there
25:06
allegations that actually massaro
25:08
who was
25:09
taken from as far too soon was
25:11
sexually assaulted overseas on the debris
25:14
to be we tour of the military
25:16
and was asked to not come forward about
25:18
it like
25:19
that's a pretty horrible stuff from early
25:22
in the eighties all the way up until now
25:25
sean i heard you and your podcast talking about how
25:27
the face of w w we will now change
25:29
both in terms of what they prioritize
25:32
and the culture and some of the other executives
25:35
how unrecognizable getting the
25:37
product will be in six months or years
25:39
time because vince mcmahon
25:41
is no longer around
25:43
so i heard originally that they had planned
25:46
to still filters himself through best
25:48
man as he transitions out and
25:50
people transition and and whatnot
25:52
and that's that's a big fear to some
25:54
the talents as i believe it when i see
25:56
it i believe a when i don't see his fingerprints
25:59
his palm print all over
26:01
what we do on mondays and fridays
26:04
though it hard to tell now i think tonight
26:06
will actually were that of know when you're dropping his
26:08
business will be a pretty good indicator to
26:10
blaze his first night in that
26:12
role so to speak by i mean
26:14
it couldn't change significantly
26:17
because nobody believes creative
26:20
here it is really
26:22
the whole it brought up brought upon his own competition
26:25
because it was so creatively the satisfying for
26:27
lot of their top talent lead them
26:29
elsewhere on they they sort
26:31
of cause the creation of their own competition
26:34
in ways i would say
26:36
sean debbie to be at i think
26:38
i because of the public nature of their company
26:40
was forced to do things that they certainly wouldn't
26:42
have done in have shown in their history that they were in a dance
26:45
when they were private part of
26:47
the optics within that that that board
26:49
was that seventy was taking time
26:52
away from w w eats aaa
26:54
it's just had a very scary health scare
26:57
a his power over nxt
26:59
was kind of stripped away from a
27:01
man he was just a figurehead
27:03
there but didn't really have an actual job
27:06
now these people almost overnight
27:08
go from divesting themselves somewhat
27:10
from that corporate culture to running
27:12
it how confuses talent by this and
27:14
housing work
27:16
the talent that i speak used primarily
27:18
excited to they adore triple
27:20
age they adore stephanie mcmahon gotta
27:22
remember a lot of this talents did come
27:24
from that sub brand that i mentioned earlier so
27:27
he hired a lot of these people others
27:29
also a whole lot of people as
27:31
he hired had big plans for that
27:33
vince vaughn said now we don't have anything
27:35
for them they're that they're gone shocked
27:39
yeah i think helens pretty shot because three
27:41
weeks ago there was a talent meeting before
27:43
there were there pay per views were they said vince
27:46
ran as here is here to stay he's
27:48
not going anywhere so i would say
27:50
that tell is pretty surprised at least on
27:52
that and plus nobody expected this
27:54
the actually sat down from traders
27:57
if anything if he retained one
27:59
thing
27:59
be the superficial chairman
28:02
ceo title that he's held in
28:04
recent years it would have been create he's not
28:06
going to be able to keep it quiet though it's calming
28:08
whatever it is is coming like he knows it's coming
28:10
because he how he just got pushed to the edge
28:12
of of if they were that resolute
28:15
in he's not going anywhere in the talent
28:17
is shocked and we know the history of defiance
28:19
they're like there's something
28:21
out there that someone is not yet reported where
28:24
they've got him corner did seems obvious
28:26
it seems like at one of the chance to me
28:28
been wrong about that
28:30
i'm a i don't think i mean i think there's
28:32
probably some that out there who says
28:34
the stuff we know what's the stuff we don't know
28:36
and i know on people are like why in wrestling
28:38
media hear about this because we have
28:40
seen unfortunately cases
28:43
where we were report things like this
28:45
and it gets swept under the rug because
28:47
vince is like
28:48
who cares when is the wall street journal
28:51
as a little bit different but still
28:53
you haven't tried to sweep it under the rug right
28:55
like he still have i mean
28:57
i i i take her some this show but i mean
28:59
i'm told that when he will turn your and
29:01
you can curse on the show duncan there we go
29:03
was so i was told that when he went through the curtain
29:05
after his first smackdown appearance he screamed
29:10
like that you're defiant he was
29:12
it's and i know where are we being shot
29:15
i'm sorry but one we gave you
29:17
permission and now and dogs out heroin or
29:20
sean thank you for being on with us fight
29:22
full dot com anything that anything the
29:24
audience needs to know that we did not ask
29:26
you about any obvious future
29:28
changes that wrestling fans would care about
29:31
because about it's about to change
29:34
a lot of about the change but i've depending
29:36
on how much again he takes his fingerprints off
29:38
the product will remain to be seen but
29:41
are there are lot of changes and honestly the
29:43
leadership that some place now the
29:45
people that i thought you within the company really
29:48
like those people and
29:49
they're actually pretty excited for it so
29:51
that's some positive news that regard sean
29:54
thank you for being on with us or thank you for the time thanks
29:57
for having
29:58
you sound
29:59
they your
29:59
muslim enough you'll need anything beg you
30:02
bird dogs and most popular dolphins of
30:04
yeah but ah for
30:06
us either the
30:09
labour towards their bear was not
30:11
on house death that excuse
30:13
me i was gives a desk i met dag
30:15
i busted terrible you
30:18
now
30:19
they'll be box two minutes
30:21
via home for the day walk
30:24
to the ocean what do you want me to do superbowl
30:26
weight and added as many of us and
30:29
i have no money off what's to
30:31
god's walk to the ocean at my
30:33
wants to the oh my god i have no money and
30:35
out of here get outta here of the the show dogs analyzed
30:37
diseases are limits are show with
30:40
is still gods jerry west
30:42
was in the news this weekend's to
30:44
god's on a couple of friends and
30:46
i do love that jerry west is getting
30:48
a new time to shine laden life
30:51
of it's a day reddick say now wells
30:53
this this are two things that were funny
30:56
involving juri was juri was if you do
30:58
not know is the logo juri west
31:00
is one of the best basketball players
31:02
ever in winning time the adam mckay
31:04
thing on h b o
31:07
jerry west is portrayed in a way
31:09
that is volatile and hostile and he has
31:11
said at this depiction is bothersome
31:14
to him and this you will take it all the way to the supreme
31:16
court for not understanding how
31:18
it is that the supreme court works but
31:20
given what's happening these days i don't understand
31:23
how the supreme court work so
31:26
jerry west is going back
31:28
at jj redick any did it so
31:30
well sue got but before i get to
31:32
that story
31:34
shaquille o'neill told the story
31:37
who are that kid interviewer who's no
31:39
longer a kid
31:40
interviewer graham messenger best
31:43
injure business
31:45
the interviewing shaquille o'neill and
31:47
she do on the obe tells the story of being
31:49
enraged after losing in
31:52
the finals and tearing up toilets
31:54
in the locker rooms and tearing up
31:56
urinals in the locker room and that
31:58
jerry west came in
32:01
the i don't know what's true here's to guts because there were a couple
32:04
of different stories told this weekend you done
32:06
this has been told one of them and shock
32:08
says the jury was came in and grabbed
32:11
him by the neck in a way that
32:13
makes jack tippy toe on
32:15
a wall
32:16
like made him tippy toe like right raised
32:18
up shack by the neck holding
32:20
him by the throat that sounds like an exaggeration
32:23
given the you dot is has i'm just said that he got
32:25
in between a fight with pat riley shack
32:27
one types and he had never been thrown
32:29
that far as sinus lies he spent
32:32
like a child being thrown my shaquille
32:34
o'neill and you dot argument riley assess
32:37
, of what's
32:39
true there is there anything
32:42
true and these two stories you done as
32:44
as them says shirt is so strong that
32:46
he threw you done as has lung several
32:48
feet by just saying get out of here with
32:50
his left arm because
32:53
he that strong and jerry west came
32:55
into a locker rooms and held secular
32:57
nailed by the next shucks exaggerating
32:59
that for that i find that impossible
33:02
to believe what you just think about it visually
33:04
just a big shock is a must say juri
33:06
was a small boy the and be a six
33:08
bar what did she kilo neil
33:11
way there's no way that
33:13
jerry west of all people did that
33:15
the sec there's no way
33:17
i can see another center doing
33:20
that since i'm not the another another human
33:22
being as you want maybe just maybe
33:24
i'll make rice but the other
33:26
story other story it is an
33:28
actual story and
33:29
beckett in philly was spot on because
33:32
it's because of jj redick saying that bob
33:34
cousy was started by plumber the
33:36
firemen when he played near
33:37
yea it's very landed
33:39
mad and and you know saying it's disrespectful
33:42
and doing basically what jerry west
33:44
of winning time would do which is len
33:47
like going kind of argue back
33:49
but i don't get why jerry west isn't
33:51
just like embracing that he a
33:54
popular again even though he's popular
33:56
for being an asshole on the t v show but like
33:58
this is a really great renaissance
34:01
for him late his career to just be like yeah i guess
34:03
what i'm gonna be the asshole guy
34:05
now and i'm going to say and
34:06
why didn't you say renaissance with this was
34:08
not just logo of the abuse and executive
34:11
he is viewed as a hall of fame executive
34:13
who doesn't think that is passed as in his past
34:15
like this dude has been a kingmaker
34:17
in the n b a who doesn't need
34:20
this show to depict them poorly to still
34:22
be a legend who's excellent in his seventies
34:24
what doesn't
34:25
complaining about the depictions of you your
34:27
jerry west like just yeah
34:29
so what i was a bad ass
34:30
what you're saying the gross cody saying that
34:32
any pop as good part this is negative pop
34:35
for jerry was they be people are questioning
34:37
his grace and
34:37
negative rob own it
34:40
then it ended good pub of what he says
34:42
it's not true he says that his depiction
34:44
as a rage monster a rage monster
34:47
cursing and breaking things if
34:49
he wants to be seen as the golden executive
34:51
who was the who's a symbol of league does
34:53
a lot of raping her
34:54
what the standard was fifty
34:56
years ago you wanted to be the golden executive
34:58
now people
35:00
younger people like when you're
35:02
kind of an asshole the like when you're a bad ass
35:04
they like when you kind of bucks the norm
35:07
and your kind of like got an edge to you and
35:09
if he wants to appeal to younger and be a fans
35:11
he says his own it's guess net
35:13
i threw my trophy out my larry o'brien
35:16
trophy through a window ones because i was his staff
35:18
to there he busted something annoying
35:21
the what i wanted to drop larry bird
35:24
i'm jerry west eating you know i was ten years ago
35:27
eighteen year old whippersnappers
35:28
another thing i don't think zero as as
35:30
any time for the likes and dislikes of young
35:32
people are he has a care about young piano
35:35
and about barbara
35:36
that moment well i'm telling you this should
35:38
care
35:39
that means you get him a tick tock clock
35:41
to imagine jerry west on things that are great idea
35:43
the link you on full of on today he
35:45
even like kevin durant's is thirty four
35:47
and he seemed like an old man on say like
35:50
how do i wasn't i thought i was a joke
35:52
i thought he was as though he wasn't doing that on purpose
35:54
hours in a job that was a joke he doesn't eat
35:56
as know to work six to release him
35:58
out and see if you can figure out how
35:59
published a single very
36:01
in i don't like i do not oppose video
36:03
i do like in a tick tock style
36:05
where there's like no reason and subtitles
36:07
and all this stuff like there's you know there's
36:09
a whole as whole mess an eraser race
36:12
and erased narration
36:14
that our nation's you
36:16
can say narration
36:18
i trust you with i'm not disputing
36:20
you i didn't object to it he was i thought he was
36:22
putting his own flourish on marisa
36:25
i didn't think is was the correct way and mine is
36:27
the wrong way
36:29
why did finally relevant again right
36:31
the way to my family
36:35
young people will have to decide about jerry
36:37
was when he said
36:39
why i'm telling you about and then
36:41
i my only thought about him and now i'm still thinking about
36:44
because i thought you was a great character he should
36:46
own people like that character he
36:48
was an asshole that are more than title like you're kind of ruins
36:50
foreign students is right the young
36:52
people get to decide as they throw the
36:54
as they're thrown up of stuff at kid
36:57
cuddy and run him off the stage because
36:59
young people get to decide know how those people
37:01
are artists lands are probably in their thirties
37:04
i'm guessing that young
37:07
people get to decide whether jerry
37:09
west the logo is
37:12
popular to their discernment
37:14
switzer he was here's
37:16
the sound unfair comes
37:18
after jj redick so well
37:21
who to have to courtesy on the sound here sirius
37:23
xm sirius xm a radio i
37:25
wish you game is completely different the athletes
37:27
are completely different and i know jj
37:31
this , little bit is very smart kid
37:33
never then let's tell me
37:35
what his squirrel applied what
37:37
did he do
37:39
that was the determined
37:41
games the , where
37:43
the original point again and and
37:46
alone way numbers way that
37:49
point in time the players aren't
37:51
what they used to be jj
37:54
certainly wouldn't gonna guard
37:56
the elite players and so you
37:59
can knit sickening
37:59
one am i'm not the only reason i'm talking
38:02
about him is ,
38:04
he was non elite player but he was
38:06
a very good player but
38:08
he had but he on the same because his ability
38:10
suitable they'd you should be very
38:13
thankful that he's made of much money seatmates
38:16
and bob cousy the i played
38:18
guess a couple of years not very long i
38:22
just think is very disrespectful myself
38:25
i'd love is an insult i
38:27
love as an insult
38:30
what
38:30
did he do it is that
38:33
determine the games the
38:35
best and cause announced good
38:37
though but i'm going for my head on unlike
38:40
what what you remember
38:42
what are the shots to i remember what us when
38:44
he do what did he do like he's basically
38:46
zeiler your dog just ran out
38:49
there and shot up answer is
38:51
rare so dismissive it's as
38:53
dismissive l didn't think so but think fully
38:55
though that he could agenda as he
38:57
exam
38:58
are you never should have done figure
39:00
he'll then jerry
39:02
but jerry's all you know is all know their
39:04
last year now hey listen
39:06
i know i'm is it matter what
39:09
does he ever done a me as
39:11
me as job military what did
39:13
he do that determinist game
39:15
while very
39:16
do most people under the age of
39:18
thirty probably couldn't tell
39:19
he's a logo to titles right
39:21
oh league mvp know
39:23
, you look at all the time that's him it's
39:26
very cool yeah to awesome
39:28
what else did he do i don't care how
39:30
many followers as you have this you have
39:32
such as you know about to handle she gets
39:34
to decide she gets to decide
39:37
that's how about one dogs with popularity
39:39
and i'm it just hurts
39:41
me so much it
39:44
hurts me so much that popularity
39:47
and clicks and likes or
39:49
the way that this is the game
39:51
and and sincerely was a sister
39:53
five hundred pm when i was due to the we thought
39:55
it would match amateur and on said
39:57
thought i thought man that's funny that he
39:59
do that
40:00
if it's not self aware i guess it's even
40:03
funnier that he would do that but i thought he was doing
40:05
it as a job is activity jj
40:07
response how many followers the
40:09
you have jerry west that now
40:11
erotic isn't like the medium age
40:14
like the medium generation of millennials where
40:16
he's kind of like the mainstream boys the he's
40:18
a little older than the gens years the gens ears
40:20
are the ones who are like okay like all isn't
40:22
a jj redick i don't give a shit with jerry west as
40:26
are you i i enjoyed by the way
40:28
so that that clip we're longer you're the
40:30
one of the bit like i'd always jerry west basically
40:32
going to start sombre for giving [unk] bone
40:35
a few days like it back
40:37
back when i played i had a great
40:39
vertical jump i was quicker
40:41
the most of bit v the opponent's that i came up
40:44
against like he was going through that
40:46
like yet you might call me a plumber but i was
40:48
a great athlete i was
40:49
that plumber i was the best basketball
40:51
playing plum
40:52
in are now that's what made it to the end of what's great
40:54
about the sound sooner we didn't even play was
40:56
in their jerry west was saying and so
40:58
and so you know had a job during the summer
41:01
so he's basically we worked for
41:03
this is like couldn't
41:06
schrager the summers role as obvious
41:09
as you know mounted on living well
41:13
as lovers be as much
41:15
as i itself and ashley
41:17
gary was on that admit
41:19
it own you know how to unclog toilet i bet
41:21
jj redick vet right it doesn't
41:24
i don't want and jj redick added
41:26
, clogged toilet in eroded eroded
41:29
your own was put on the painting their mouth
41:31
does juri was to have any
41:33
chance against jj
41:36
reddit that does he does your
41:38
son jj
41:42
redick the greatest basketball player
41:44
daddy was is under the age of thirty ivy
41:47
why she did on reddit and learn how to shit talk
41:49
the of , going to solve
41:51
the end of the segment is going to be me sobbing
41:54
be i'm i'm a guy who says yeah anybody
41:57
today would strike out babe ruth thousand
42:01
jerry west is a bridge too far
42:03
for me like i do agree
42:05
that people would rather today's athlete but he
42:07
would not know what to do with onto the cookbook but
42:10
a jj redick was guarding jerry was
42:12
teasing jj would lock them down iranians
42:15
as as
42:17
the day would
42:23
lock down juri was you know three
42:26
years old city right it wasn't a good defender
42:28
know i'm sorry size and jerry
42:31
west would have jj redick rob
42:33
jj redick this jj redick indo
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