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0:52

Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again for another

0:54

episode of the Dale Jr. Download. This Tuesday we're

0:56

going to cover the race

0:58

at Kansas, an incredible race

1:01

for the NASCAR Cup Series. And

1:03

also Chris Buescher is going to call in and

1:06

tell us about his experience of almost

1:08

winning. And we're just

1:11

gonna have a lot of fun. We're going to talk

1:13

about the schedule changes that may be coming down the

1:15

pipe for NASCAR and everything else going on in the

1:17

sport. Let's get started. The

1:22

following is a production of Dirty Mo Media.

1:34

Who's the new guy? In the studio

1:36

for Dirty Air. And then Dale started singing.

1:38

99 bottles of beer. There

1:41

are some voices on the

1:43

show that you're going to hear.

1:55

All right, so back in the Bojangles studio

1:57

and usually we have the winner call in,

1:59

Larson. is traveling today

2:01

so yeah we got the other

2:03

winner yeah Chris Chris

2:06

Busher so I wouldn't call him a

2:08

winner say again I wouldn't

2:10

necessarily call him a winner in this situation I'd

2:12

like you to say that to his face well

2:14

I mean hey I was I was rooting for

2:16

Busher but man he didn't win the race let's

2:18

try to be nice to our guests I you're

2:20

right hey I love Busher I love Busher yeah

2:23

okay all right

2:27

okay I did

2:29

I mean hey when

2:31

for a second we all thought the guy was

2:33

a winner I know yeah yeah in

2:35

your line if you say otherwise mm-hmm

2:37

the pylon said it the train ponder

2:39

said that was a very short timing

2:41

and story where there was a universe

2:44

a reality where he was the winner and

2:47

then he wasn't yeah let's

2:49

get into that I mean let's talk

2:51

about it right now conversation is already

2:53

happened you know we're we're 72 hours

2:55

or whatever beyond all of that I

2:59

think Jeff Gluck and his crew did

3:01

a great job of sort of explaining

3:03

timing lines painted

3:05

lines on a racetrack start finish

3:08

lines NASCAR's camera and and all

3:10

of the procedures

3:12

that that go into that

3:14

and you know we can talk to our guests

3:17

tomorrow Elton Sawyer about

3:20

their whole processes at

3:22

the end of that race right this was I

3:24

mean my experience I think was really similar to

3:26

pretty much everyone else's I'll be surprised if anybody

3:28

had a different experience to me but they

3:32

crossed the finish line I

3:34

thought Chris I thought visually watching it

3:36

live the 17 was the first car to

3:38

the line kind of goes to show man

3:40

you know it's good that you got that

3:42

camera cuz I was my what I saw

3:44

even isn't what happened

3:46

right Larson

3:49

got to the finish line first even

3:52

I mean there's kind of two finish lines

3:54

you know there was the one

3:57

that you know

3:59

somebody painted a little extra

4:01

finish line and then there was the original

4:03

finish line yeah did y'all see that

4:05

right yeah a little fat like the apron didn't

4:07

have the line painted yeah it's

4:10

but it's almost as if they

4:12

painted that line and somebody came by and

4:14

added a little extra to the to the

4:17

start phase line up on the banking that

4:19

was like an addition abstract version of it

4:21

you ever see one of those houses nice

4:24

house and then it had this like the addition on

4:26

the side of it not even the right it ain't

4:28

the same sighting you know

4:30

it's obvious like add-on and

4:33

it looks dirty so that's

4:36

what that looked like anyhow

4:39

you know I you know I think

4:41

the 17s won the race and I'm like dang you

4:43

know I didn't think Busher was gonna get it done

4:45

this year remember yes I

4:47

was like hey guy's surprising the

4:49

hell out of me here he is run good all

4:52

day and then messed

4:54

around won that race seconds

4:56

later you know we're all sort of

5:00

realizing that NASCAR's decided that the 17 has

5:02

not won the race and

5:04

now I mean my mind goes into

5:07

well how is that possible I literally just

5:09

watched him get to the finish line first

5:11

and I'm assuming I'm

5:14

not there but I'm assuming timing

5:17

and scoring said the 17 one so are

5:20

we not going by the damn transponders how

5:22

are we not doing that right what

5:24

is this evidence that NASCAR has that says

5:27

that the five is a winner and

5:29

then you know we go back and see

5:31

the photo finish and

5:33

the five is actually ahead they slow it down

5:35

on television you can see the fives just

5:37

a little bit of through their head of the

5:40

17 so it's it's a it's a it's a

5:42

crazy thing man what I saw in

5:44

live TV what I saw

5:46

as it was happening was not really

5:48

what happened because as they slow

5:50

it down and then we see the pictures you're like

5:52

wow okay yeah the five is ahead and

5:57

I saw Denny's comment on

5:59

his action

6:01

is detrimental. He

6:04

said, hey man, you know, let's get these

6:06

start finish line fixed. What the hell? Will

6:10

we ever come down to a finish

6:12

like this again? Maybe

6:14

not, but if we do,

6:17

let's make sure that the start finish line

6:19

doesn't look like this. Because,

6:22

yes, NASCAR is going to get it right. There's

6:24

not going to be any debate about the winner,

6:26

but the optics of the start finish line being

6:29

painted funky is

6:31

not good, right? So

6:33

shame on you, Kansas. Shame

6:36

on you, Kansas, little freeway. Yeah, get it straight,

6:38

man. Love your barbecue. Get your finish line figured

6:40

out, right? And so otherwise,

6:42

man, I was really happy with how NASCAR handled all

6:44

that. And I thought that our

6:46

media, Jeff Gluck and everyone else,

6:48

did a really good job of sort of

6:51

explaining what went down and not

6:53

adding fuel to the fire in

6:55

terms of like, oh, this is BS. You

6:57

know, it was a great moment. Closest

6:59

finish in history. We ought

7:02

to celebrate that. Is anybody feeling differently about

7:04

that? No, not at all. I'm totally with

7:06

you on that. I had no problem with

7:08

the explanation of Why Larson won and all

7:10

of that, but I'm like, man, it

7:13

should just be easier to understand, I guess, the

7:15

win for the viewer because, you know, I don't

7:17

want to have to go search for that later

7:19

on Twitter to see, oh, well then, oh, I

7:21

can understand why Larson won now. No, paint the

7:23

line straight. Get a camera that's clear enough to

7:25

see. I don't know. I do.

7:30

I am a little bit surprised

7:32

that there is a difference between,

7:34

I guess, start finish line, timing

7:36

lines, and a camera, right? And

7:39

where the line that the camera creates, right? So

7:43

that camera is set up straight across from the start

7:45

finish line over on Pitt Road, high up over the

7:47

top of anything that could obscure the view

7:50

of the cars coming by. And

7:53

that camera has a line

7:57

that's the official line, right? And

8:01

does it match perfectly with the

8:03

start finish line? Probably not, considering

8:05

the start finish line's irregular, right?

8:09

And it's very irregular in this case.

8:12

And so was it the

8:14

first bit of paint?

8:16

Is it that second part that the

8:19

17s race into? That

8:22

part, to me, didn't

8:25

ever, that part didn't, the

8:28

difference between scoring loops, which are

8:30

not right on top of

8:32

the start finish line, right? They're either before or after.

8:36

The camera and the start, all of those

8:38

things not synced was a

8:40

bit of a surprise to me, something that I guess

8:42

I should have known about our sport.

8:46

It didn't matter to me. It

8:48

did not matter to none of us until

8:50

we found ourselves in this position where we're

8:52

basically having a 0.001 finish. So

9:00

do we have to worry about this going

9:02

forward? Probably not. But it's

9:04

interesting that we've

9:07

been watching races forever, thinking, man, when

9:10

you're a kid and you're racing on foot, there's

9:12

a finish line. There's a line in the sand,

9:14

whatever, right? A line's a line.

9:16

That's what you race to. But we're not

9:19

really racing to what that visual painting

9:21

line on the racetrack, right? But

9:23

there are moments during the race where

9:26

we use that

9:29

line, right? Right. For

9:32

example, like under a pit cycle, if the caution comes

9:34

out, are you ahead of the line when the leader

9:36

crosses it? There's

9:39

a couple scenarios where the

9:41

line is in play. All

9:44

right? And

9:46

so it's interesting. I guess we could

9:48

talk to Elton about that tomorrow a little bit. But

9:52

pretty crazy finish. Great

9:55

for the sport. I'm happy. There

10:00

were a lot of cars coming late with tires. A

10:02

couple of late cautions set up. Pretty

10:05

interesting strategy there. Watching

10:08

the end car, if you get a chance, go

10:10

on social media and watch Kyle Busch in the

10:12

last several laps. His onboard, pretty spectacular. That

10:14

looks like a lot of fun. I thought

10:16

the fuel mileage race that was playing out

10:19

was pretty interesting. It was getting interesting. Without

10:21

an overtime finish, it still would have been

10:23

a good finish, I think. I

10:25

think the Boos did a good job of letting

10:27

us know they were saving and it was,

10:31

what I like to hear is

10:34

that they're all saving, they

10:36

all need to save, who's saving enough?

10:39

And then there's guys that don't need to save

10:41

and they're coming, like true ex. Right. Right?

10:45

And so that was so helpful to

10:48

raise my anxiety and

10:51

anticipation, right? That's what, you know, it

10:53

brought a lot of good emotion into

10:55

the race before we had the cautions

10:57

that ultimately set up

11:00

a different finish. It

11:03

seemed like Chris Buscher, man, was

11:06

so disappointed

11:09

by that finish. I

11:12

would be, especially when you thought you won the race.

11:14

Yeah. Like you have all that elation,

11:16

oh, it's over, they called it and then, nope, it's

11:18

not yours anymore. Yeah. I

11:21

wonder, you know, you'll have races in your career

11:24

that you don't get over. You

11:27

just don't. And I have

11:29

a handful, right? 2000, I

11:32

think 15, Talladega. Yeah. With

11:34

Logano there and all that. The

11:38

other Talladega, I talked about, the

11:41

other Talladega with Jeff

11:43

Gordon, right? Same sort of scenario. Caution comes

11:45

out while we're in the act of passing

11:48

and it's like, man, you know, I still ain't

11:50

over those. You know? I

11:53

still don't feel like

11:55

that's the way it

11:57

played out the way it should have. And that I feel

11:59

like. I got the

12:02

end of the stick. I

12:04

wonder if he will feel like, I

12:06

don't know how he can. I mean he got

12:09

beat to the finish, right? He

12:11

was a legit deal. He didn't

12:14

get screwed over by some outside entity.

12:17

But I wonder if that'll be a race that

12:20

sticks in his gut for a long,

12:22

long time. Not to mention it's the

12:24

closest finish in history so he's probably gonna see

12:27

a replay or two. That's it.

12:30

Great point. He

12:32

won't get a choice in terms

12:34

of getting that one or putting that one

12:36

behind him. Yeah. I saw a

12:38

stat somewhere that said that this is his first top five

12:40

at a mile and a half ever. Dang.

12:43

Like in the Cup series. Of course. That's

12:46

what I swear. I saw a statistic on

12:48

it. I mean so that's pretty,

12:50

I mean for him to think, man I'm not

12:52

really necessarily quote unquote good at these tracks and

12:54

I'm that far away from winning it. Like something

12:57

that I've struggled with. Gosh,

12:59

that's gotta be heartbreaking. Plus another

13:01

heartbreaker is it was inches away

13:03

from Ford breaking their streak of

13:06

winless races. I think this is now their worst

13:08

start since 2010 where

13:11

it took them 21 races to

13:13

win their first race in August. So

13:16

yeah. Yeah, Matt Weaver said Chris Busher does

13:18

not have a single career top five finish

13:20

on a mile and a half until Sunday.

13:22

Wow, what a stat. You

13:25

know Kansas delivers once again and

13:29

we are reminded once again how great the

13:31

next gen car is

13:33

on the mile and a half. And

13:37

fans are calling for

13:40

more mile and a half. How do you

13:42

feel about that? I'm good with it. I

13:44

would, I'm calling

13:47

for more mile and a

13:49

half if you're talking about the

13:51

roval going away and Charlotte, Charlotte

13:53

Oval going back to races a year.

13:57

I was never a fan of the roval. Listen,

13:59

me and Mark. Mr. Pals, but I've told him

14:01

in person to his

14:04

face. I'm

14:06

like, hey, not gonna love that

14:08

one. Fans love it. If

14:13

you love the robo, I'm sure maybe you guys may

14:15

love the robo, I don't know, but that's

14:17

great. I mean, I don't

14:19

control what schedule is, but I

14:22

won't miss it if it goes away. And

14:26

I think that Marcus is smart. He'll

14:28

shelf, if I put no Marcus, he'll

14:30

shelf the robo and

14:32

take advantage of this popularity that this next gen car

14:34

has on the mile and a half. I

14:37

feel like that we

14:40

got the robo because of how bad the

14:42

product was at Charlotte. It's

14:44

terrible. And so he

14:47

had to do something and he comes up

14:49

with this great idea and

14:51

the robo was good out

14:53

of the gate in the same vein

14:55

that racing at the Coliseum

14:57

was cool the first time. But for me,

15:00

after one or two,

15:02

I'm done. And now we have a car that's so

15:04

incredible on the mile and a half, I think he

15:06

has to try to

15:08

capitalize on the opportunity

15:11

there for what it means to

15:13

his racetrack financially to

15:16

go back to two dates at Charlotte. So I'll be

15:18

surprised if he does to do that. But I

15:20

haven't talked to Marcus about that. Have you

15:22

guys heard any rumblings about Charlotte? I

15:25

mean, the last I heard, I thought it

15:27

was gonna go away this year and then they brought

15:29

it back. So maybe, I don't know, I feel like

15:31

it's on the chopping block. I'm with you, I'm not

15:33

a huge fan of it. It's not the rovals fault,

15:35

it's just taking away from a track

15:37

that would be so good, right? So it

15:39

could maybe exist somewhere else, but I don't

15:41

know. I don't know why, but I have

15:43

a hard time with a

15:46

lot of our historical tracks changing

15:49

or losing dates to something new.

15:53

And that's part of my personality, I

15:55

think. I've always been a traditionalist

15:58

and... have

16:01

a hard time with the

16:03

new cars when the COT comes in or Gen

16:05

6 and the next gen. There

16:13

was any kind of arrow change

16:15

or wings and splitters and all

16:18

those things. Race

16:21

tracks changing. Charlotte going to the

16:23

road bull. Going

16:28

to Chicago even. I

16:31

thought I was anxious and excited about a

16:34

street course but having

16:37

to, I guess when we

16:39

lose something that's been a historical part of our

16:41

sport for a really long time in terms of

16:43

a facility or race track, it's

16:47

getting harder for me to be

16:50

happy about that or be excited about

16:52

that. When

16:55

we had a really tough race at Richmond

16:57

a couple weeks ago, I

16:59

said, hey man, we're going to probably lose Richmond to

17:02

a road course and now the rumor is we're

17:04

probably going to Mexico. It's

17:09

frustrating for me

17:11

because there's nothing wrong with

17:13

Richmond and we're going to leave Richmond

17:20

to go racing in Mexico.

17:23

We're going to leave all

17:25

these traditional ovals to

17:28

go race a road course. We

17:31

went to Chicago and ran a street

17:33

course. We're probably going to go

17:35

to Mexico. We'll have to see.

17:37

NASCAR seems really excited about

17:40

being able to go into either

17:43

Mexico, Canada, Montreal,

17:47

even overseas, right? Even

17:50

if it's likely a road course every

17:52

time. There's not a lot of ovals

17:54

outside of this country, right? They're

17:58

excited about taking a road course. making this

18:00

product in front of a

18:02

national or international audience. I

18:05

get that. That's amazing for our sport to

18:07

be able to go into a different country

18:09

and compete and show them, you

18:11

know, the NFL does it. And

18:16

obviously F1 races all over the world.

18:19

NASCAR wants to achieve that. NASCAR

18:21

wants to be

18:25

big enough and successful enough for

18:28

it and

18:31

its race teams to be able to travel

18:33

outside of this country and have amazing events.

18:36

That's going to most likely be road

18:38

course racing. And man, we

18:40

have enough. We have enough. If

18:43

we didn't have many road courses, it wouldn't bother me that much.

18:45

But we got a lot. And

18:48

what's whittling away? One

18:50

of my favorite things. Short track seems to

18:52

be the, because the mile and a half

18:54

package is so great, we're

18:56

going to try to add a couple more of them

18:58

somehow. You're going to try to shoehorn one or two

19:00

more and it was back into the schedule. Road

19:04

courses are an opportunity to race outside

19:07

of this country, Mexico City, Montreal, wherever

19:09

else they may want to go, Brands

19:11

Hatch, who knows. And

19:13

so what's got to sacrifice is our short

19:16

tracks, which the package is not good right

19:18

now. It's

19:21

easy for the industry

19:23

to say, well, let's not go there. If

19:27

our package isn't good or our

19:29

short track package isn't exciting, our

19:31

fans are not enjoying it, you

19:33

know, it's the one that's going to

19:36

sacrifice that. I'm a

19:38

short track guy, man. I love short tracks. This

19:40

isn't going to bother everybody. I get that. This

19:43

is going to be a problem for a lot of people. I get

19:45

that. But that's

19:47

tough for me. We certainly can't. I mean,

19:49

this is a time where, like you said,

19:52

we're focused so much on the mile and a half. I

19:54

saw a tweet yesterday, oh, just more mile and a half

19:56

to get rid of the short tracks. We can't neglect the

19:59

short tracks. to work

20:01

on fixing the problem versus just solving

20:03

it by throwing another mile and a

20:05

half schedule. If you're a Short Track

20:07

fan like me, even

20:11

if you're a Short Track fan

20:13

like me, I

20:15

think back five, eight

20:17

years ago when the Short Tracks were the

20:19

best thing going and there

20:21

was not a lot of excitement about adding more. Even

20:27

when Short Tracks are good, they

20:29

sort of get the short end

20:31

of the stick in terms of

20:35

being a part of any kind of growth. They're

20:41

not building new Short Tracks. Of course they're not

20:43

building any new tracks, but there

20:47

was a moment where, man, we were

20:49

racing, we had a couple of big

20:52

moments at Martinsville back to

20:54

back year over year in the

20:57

playoff race. I'm thinking to

20:59

myself, golly, man, if

21:01

we could have this type of

21:03

thing happening more

21:06

often, our

21:08

sport would be way better off. There

21:10

would be way more conversation and excitement around it

21:13

because the mile and a half at that point, I'm talking

21:15

five or eight years ago, weren't very good. We'd

21:18

have to wait for another Short Track race

21:21

for something to pop, something crazy to happen

21:23

and drivers to be mad at each other

21:25

and there'd be drama. I'm

21:28

thinking, man, if we had that more often,

21:30

more Short Tracks, creating more drama, maybe that

21:32

drama would lead into creating some problems and

21:35

exciting moments on the other race tracks that

21:37

were the product of struggling. If

21:41

you look back at the schedule from, let's just say, 1986, 87, there was

21:43

a lot of Short Tracks

21:46

on the schedule. We were going to more Short

21:48

Tracks more often. There

21:51

was a lot of rooting and

21:53

gouging and beating and banging that

21:55

would tend to feud and simmer

21:58

and stay hot throughout the year.

22:00

year, those rivalries and frustrations

22:02

bled into all the other events no matter

22:04

whether it was a mile and a half

22:06

or whatever. And

22:09

as the short track whittled down, a lot of that

22:11

kind of went away. But whenever we

22:13

would go back and the short track package was really good

22:15

a couple years ago, we still had

22:18

those moments that would remind you of what

22:21

the short track package could be or what the

22:23

short track racing to this series could be. I

22:25

do believe that we will get it back in

22:29

terms of a great product at the short

22:31

tracks. But we'll be

22:33

going to one or two

22:35

less short track races per year by

22:38

that point. And I doubt when that product does

22:40

return to the short tracks, whether

22:43

I doubt short tracks will be added

22:45

back to the schedule. So it's like

22:47

this long form sort

22:49

of regression

22:51

of short track racing as

22:53

a part of the NASCAR

22:56

Elite Cup series. And

22:58

there's this growth of short tracks that's

23:00

been sort of linear and steady. I

23:02

mean a growth of road courses that's been

23:04

linear and steady into the schedule,

23:07

infused into the schedule year over year.

23:09

I doubt that Talladega and Daytona are

23:11

really going anywhere anytime soon.

23:15

And the mile and a half seem to be secure for the

23:17

moment, right? And so it's like

23:19

short tracks are just kind of slowly just

23:21

moving out, you know, just slowly moving away.

23:26

I know that Wilkesboro came

23:28

back. I'm thankful for that. But

23:31

right now it's only an all-star race.

23:34

There's no points races there. It's

23:36

not been entirely embraced.

23:42

It's still on its way back, right? It's

23:45

not all the way back yet. All the

23:47

way back is a points race, a

23:49

400-miler. That's

23:51

all the way back for Wilkesboro. And

23:55

with the way this short track package is, that's

23:58

another frustration for me or another fear I

24:00

guess for me is what

24:03

does that mean for for

24:06

for what is what is the current state

24:08

of short track racing mean

24:11

for Wilkesboro for five or ten years

24:13

what are your thoughts on it was you know it

24:16

came up on the broadcast this past weekend that

24:18

Bowman Gray could be making a return you know

24:21

if you're looking at like where could that fall

24:23

maybe the clashes in the spot for it like

24:25

what do you think about that I think that

24:27

that is what they should have done oh instead

24:30

of LA instead of LA don't

24:33

let that be the soundball all right

24:35

because listen what I need to say

24:37

is this right much like you

24:41

know much and I think I just did much

24:43

like the robo was great the first

24:45

time so was the Coliseum

24:47

sure yeah that was cool right

24:51

and I know they have a contract and

24:53

there's there's legalities and reasons why we kept

24:55

going back you can't just

24:57

say okay I think one was enough

24:59

let's be done they can't

25:02

they've already signed agreements so forth for

25:04

that to to do more than

25:06

just one event but in

25:09

a perfect world if you just could do anything

25:11

you wanted you would have went to the

25:13

Coliseum and said you know what

25:15

we're not gonna top that that was cool we're

25:17

not gonna top that but let's go somewhere else

25:20

and Bowman grave would have been the next logical

25:22

place to take it I

25:25

mean there are the great ideas the places

25:27

to go with the clash the clash

25:29

needs to stick around I don't

25:31

I mean at this point it's

25:33

never going to be what I

25:35

want it to be and that's 20 lap

25:37

race at Daytona that's what it ought to

25:40

be that's what it always that's what it

25:42

was intended to be it's not it's probably

25:44

never going to ever get back to

25:46

that original form

25:48

right that was so perfect

25:52

but if it's gonna continue yeah

25:55

let's go to Bowman gray unless

25:57

you know maybe it's got

25:59

another Maybe it's got a one or two year

26:01

run there and we and we end up taking it

26:03

somewhere else Selfishly, I like Bowman

26:06

that Bowman gray idea because that's one that

26:08

I can go to yeah You know being

26:10

local here, but that means California

26:12

loses a date, which is you know tough

26:14

for all those fans out there That's

26:17

one thing. That's like I and you touched

26:19

on it. Wait, like I mean, did you

26:22

see the stands at? the

26:24

last clash I Mean

26:27

it wasn't it wasn't as good as

26:29

the other one was bad I Think

26:32

the only people in the grandstands were the

26:34

spotters and the crew chiefs all mechanics that

26:36

traveled out there Do you really a whole

26:38

lot of nothing? Listen,

26:42

I know there's a lot of fans out there. They

26:45

don't I don't think I don't think that the I

26:47

mean if you were to give Race

26:50

fans in Southern California or the West

26:52

Coast a Race

26:54

you think they're wanting that I Think

26:58

they're wanting fontan. Right? Right. Yeah, they're

27:00

wanting something something a little bit bigger

27:03

and That

27:07

I feel like that they let us know Like

27:10

hey man, the clash was great. Enjoy that

27:12

one That

27:14

one big, you know first year, but after

27:17

that, I mean it's It

27:20

kind of ran its course I that's just my

27:22

gut feeling I'm not saying I'm right I'm just

27:24

thinking in my mind I was look when they

27:26

were talking about doing the clash out there I

27:28

was thinking in my hand like bowling grades the

27:31

way to go take it there Why

27:33

not go to Bowman Gray if you're gonna do this? But

27:36

you know, I'm that's not the

27:38

best business decision Financially

27:41

that is not even close

27:43

to what they're gonna be able to accomplish out

27:45

there and at the Coliseum So

27:48

so they go to Coliseum. It's

27:50

it does great that first year that

27:53

first year and NASCAR

27:55

succeeds I'm sure

27:57

it was expensive to some entities in

27:59

the sport You know

28:01

NASCAR spends a lot of its own money to

28:03

invest in itself And

28:05

they probably did there, but they're talking about Bowman

28:08

Gray's coming back I don't see any other way

28:10

it comes back other than the clash and they're

28:12

not gonna have a points race there It's just

28:14

not gonna happen, right? so it's the

28:16

clash or nothing for Bowman Gray and It

28:19

may be we may be talked this may

28:21

be all about nothing Being

28:23

Kennedy might be sitting here going. We're not

28:25

even thought we don't even thought about that. We're

28:28

not doing that But who

28:30

knows I mean there's a lot of conversation about what

28:32

might come back and what you know, what might end

28:34

up happening is You

28:37

know what what's going on with? Chicago

28:42

Is that a you know, how long can we race in

28:44

the streets of Chicago? Is that a

28:46

sustainable thing? Can you do that year over year

28:49

for a long time? I don't Feel

28:51

like that's realistic, you know, I think

28:54

that it's so expensive to do

28:57

that Eventually, you know

28:59

the crowd the crowd's gonna level

29:02

off right after after the

29:04

first couple of years You're gonna lose some of the

29:06

crowd right? You got to expect that if you're if

29:09

you're running this whole deal The

29:12

crowd is not gonna keep getting I mean

29:14

that first year you're gonna have the biggest

29:17

Yeah, most interesting most intrigued and the rain

29:19

is not gonna help either Well, I'm just

29:21

saying like is you know, once you start

29:23

to what's the numbers change financially

29:25

for that for that race Where

29:28

do you go from there is? Chicago

29:31

land still available even right

29:34

what what's happening there? They dug that place up

29:36

to go what? You know,

29:38

hmm. You don't know. No, I don't well, I don't

29:40

hear on your notes I didn't know if you knew

29:42

something I did well It was you

29:44

know people have been throwing Chicago land out,

29:47

you know The return of Kentucky is possible

29:49

kind of land may be

29:51

in a situation where they probably

29:54

Child lamb who knows what it looks like What's

29:57

dated? of

30:00

that racetrack. Is it racable?

30:03

Right? There's a nasty bump down in the middle

30:05

of three or four and

30:08

without maintenance and and and

30:11

year-round you know taking care of

30:14

is the surface even racable

30:17

without some patchwork and improvements?

30:19

I don't know. The location was not ideal

30:22

for Chicago Land. That's the that's

30:24

yeah doesn't help necessarily. Why was

30:27

that not a good location? I

30:30

mean Joliet is not it's

30:33

not Chicago. It's not Kansas. It's

30:35

not Kansas City. Kansas literally the

30:37

same distance from Chicago. But the

30:40

argument for Kansas is there's more

30:42

to do around the track and

30:44

you know it's it's a little

30:47

bit more fan-friendly. Joliet is a

30:49

little ways out so. What is

30:51

there to do around the track at Kansas?

30:53

Oh there's like the big shopping mall and

30:55

like there's like a bunch of restaurants and

30:57

stuff places to go. Okay. Yeah. All right.

31:00

That's the stadium. The

31:02

other stadiums are over there.

31:04

I think it certainly if you're

31:07

comparing Kansas to Chicago it certainly gives Kansas

31:09

the upper leg. What about I mean you

31:11

look at Homestead. That's not Miami. It's

31:13

not even close you know but that's one

31:15

of our most right so it's like. Right

31:17

but it's not my argument was Chicago. Yeah.

31:19

Chicago Land's location wasn't doing it any favor.

31:21

What about Kentucky? People want Kentucky back. People

31:23

do want Kentucky back. Really? Yeah. Overreaction. Yeah.

31:25

Such a weird track. Yeah I think they're

31:27

just grasping at anything. Is it like oh

31:29

any mile and a half will do. Yes.

31:32

Yeah it is. Kentucky was

31:34

not. Kentucky didn't race good.

31:37

Driving on Kentucky was not fun. Turn

31:40

three that flat as hell entry is just

31:42

weird. Yeah. There's a reason why

31:44

we don't go there anymore. Yeah. That's not just because

31:46

of the car. When we tested there back in the

31:49

2000s you kind of felt like you

31:51

man you know really there's no track like this.

31:53

I'm not I mean you know you can look

31:55

at it. You can take it

31:57

you can look at it from Google images you can

31:59

watch races. on TV you can go there physically and

32:01

watch a race and think, it's a

32:03

mile and a half. It's similar to

32:05

this track, it's similar to that track. They

32:09

all have characteristics and one of

32:11

the characteristics of Kentucky is entering

32:13

turn three is super flat and

32:16

it's just you wash down into the bottom

32:18

of that corner and I can't think of

32:20

another mile and a half that has an

32:22

entry anywhere close to that. And

32:26

then you gained banking

32:28

exiting four up a hill

32:31

and there was a nasty bump

32:33

at the start and finish line there too. Boy you couldn't

32:35

even run on the apron down there, you knocked your damn

32:37

eyes out. Fucking eyes

32:39

would fly out of your hair. So

32:42

y'all remember Jimmy Johnson

32:44

went down there and hit the ground so hard

32:46

and bounced up the racetrack into Bragg his last,

32:48

it was a big wreck or something, somebody bottomed

32:50

out down there? I don't remember.

32:53

I'm wrong. But there's a lot of

32:56

drivers that have hit that bump on the apron and regretted

32:58

the hill out of it. Yeah. There

33:01

was another nasty bump low

33:03

off of four, you'd never run down there but

33:06

if you had to you

33:08

were in for a rude awakening. Turn

33:13

one and two was kind of fun but they had to get

33:16

funky with it to get them up off the bottom right?

33:20

There was one time, I remember

33:23

I'm rambling here, but there was one

33:25

time I think we went there and they had painted the

33:29

line for the

33:31

apron, a groove up the

33:33

racetrack thinking well

33:36

they won't run below this line. If

33:38

we tell them this is the apron they won't run on

33:41

it. Y'all remember this? These

33:43

are the people who painted the cans to

33:45

start finishing. Dude what is with these people?

33:48

That's the freaking lines right. I think it

33:50

was. I think it was. They were thinking

33:52

how do we get them up off the bottom of the

33:54

racetrack? That is crazy. We should move the line up and

33:57

tell them that's the apron and they won't never run on

33:59

it. I think

34:01

that happened at tournament. Who needs PJ1? Let's just give me

34:03

a can of paint. I'm gonna

34:05

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34:08

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34:10

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35:45

Where the hell are we? We're getting way out

35:47

there. You've got some big

35:49

news today. Oh

35:51

I do. Is it the worst secret?

35:56

Where is Josh Berry with Stewart Haas Racing last year?

35:58

That was pretty well known. I'm

36:01

just saying does everybody pretty much know this already?

36:05

I would say. All right. Yeah.

36:09

Do you want to say what it is? Yeah. All

36:12

right, moving on. Yeah.

36:16

I'll be working for Amazon and Turner

36:18

next year. I,

36:21

yeah, we've been talking

36:23

and ready to get this out there

36:26

and I've got to go

36:28

to New York City in a couple

36:30

weeks to do some work for both

36:33

of them. And so

36:35

we knew that that would reveal

36:39

what was going on. And so we

36:41

go ahead and have to put the announcement out, which

36:43

I think everybody was aware.

36:47

I had a great, great run at NBC.

36:51

And I'm

36:53

very, very, very thankful for

36:55

what they did to help

36:59

me grow and improve. I was raw,

37:02

had no experience, wasn't a journalist,

37:04

wasn't a radio guy, hadn't done

37:06

any broadcasting in my life. And

37:10

then I mean a couple moments here and there,

37:12

but nothing like real work. And

37:16

so I've learned a tremendous amount over

37:18

the past several years, thanks to the

37:21

people that I've worked with at NBC. And

37:26

so I'm going to move

37:29

on and team up

37:32

with Amazon, which is exciting because they're

37:34

kind of new coming at this with

37:36

a lot of fresh ideas. But

37:38

I think they know, like they need to stay

37:42

in that sort of comfortable box that we

37:44

live in. They'll come with a

37:46

lot of cool ideas, I think, that might make things

37:49

better or different in a good way. But

37:52

there is this sort of understanding that

37:55

we do need to keep

37:57

it somewhat recognizable In terms of

37:59

what. What and expect in a

38:01

Nascar broadcast? So that should be fine

38:03

to see. How that all works

38:06

out of what we actually end up putting

38:08

out on on Tell these it's the ratings

38:10

going to be Amazing! Soooo that's going to

38:12

take care of yourself. And

38:14

then tartar. Really

38:17

been into sport before? Their.

38:19

They seem very comfortable coming right

38:21

back in like a from a

38:23

good been on a familiar pursues.

38:25

Ah and so. I'm.

38:28

An omelet for the see in their

38:30

approach is well, And

38:32

it's ten races. So. It's

38:34

not as much as I was doing in the past.

38:36

I mean, I think a half a season was perfect.

38:39

I don't want to work a whole year. But

38:43

haven't I'm thankful. I guess from

38:45

for me selfishly that we have

38:47

multiple partners in an Nascar to

38:50

be able to. Work.

38:52

Parts of the season right and not

38:54

not work an entire year. And.

38:58

So. I'm

39:00

us. Yeah, I feel very lucky. Cause

39:03

I'm. Yeah. I

39:05

get to stay in the broadcast booth. I get

39:07

to continue doing that job that I joy. And.

39:11

Dumb. I look at it like

39:13

you know that is good low but overlap in May.

39:16

And and maybe a little overlap in

39:19

August but I look at it is

39:21

Ill June, July. Amazon's.

39:23

June, Carter, July

39:25

and dumb. And

39:28

we're gonna have a lot of fun all. Our.

39:32

A Amy and the girls are going to be missing me

39:35

during the summer, but. You know we'll

39:37

We'll We'll make up for the rest of the year. What's

39:40

cool is I love that Bleacher report is

39:42

in the game now as well. I know

39:44

you're gonna be doing some exciting sept them

39:46

to. Yeah, that's one of the things that

39:48

came to the table with Turner and. I

39:52

think Amazon as well, but. They're

39:54

They're going to want to create content. That.

39:56

They can use some of the

39:58

content were already creating them they

40:01

may want to access and so.

40:04

So. We'll see of. The.

40:06

Of. Have had

40:08

the Bleacher Report app on my phone

40:10

for quite some time now never thinking

40:13

that I would ever have a son

40:15

involvement but some so that to be

40:17

fun sorted, see and how they do

40:19

things and learning their processes and approach

40:21

to to create content and I'm always

40:23

opted for me to learn and use

40:25

that and what I do. As

40:28

well here dirty my media so I'm.

40:31

Yeah, I'm I'm looking forward to it. is

40:33

gonna be there or and you get into

40:35

under it. Didn't meet their talent. Good to

40:38

meet all other people that work in their

40:40

sort of circle for other sports and so

40:42

forth. It's it's gotta be cool opportunity and.

40:46

I can't wait to continue to

40:49

learn and. Reveal.

40:52

More details around what the broadcasts looks

40:54

like, What the booth looks like? who's

40:56

in the booth? What the rest of

40:58

the talent will be around. You know,

41:00

the host for the pre race. What

41:02

are post race looks like? And

41:06

we're starting to have conversations with

41:08

Amazon and Turner about. You.

41:10

Know how we'd love this to look

41:12

and how we'd love what we'd love

41:14

to create an. I'm.

41:18

I'm hoping that were checking all the

41:20

boxes that fans have right? What? Do

41:22

they want out of abroad? Guess they want they want

41:24

your pre race is cool but they love post race.

41:26

They want all the interviews they want to hear from

41:28

everybody. And so you

41:31

know Trotter Up seriously like look

41:33

in on Reddit and and social

41:35

media and reading the comments about

41:37

fans in their opinions of broadcast

41:39

in what they love with they

41:41

don't love and trying to see

41:43

how we can that together best

41:45

Overall. You. Know

41:47

package they are you trying to. You

41:50

know you can do everything and and

41:52

you know. Who. Had see what

41:54

were limited to say i'm Unlucky Omelet

41:56

Vortex I think bet you know Amazon

41:59

for example, being on

42:02

Prime and they have a lot of, not being

42:04

cable, they

42:08

have different restrictions

42:10

or less restrictions in some areas. So

42:12

it really opens it up

42:14

to be quite different than what

42:17

you might expect when you're watching a cable network.

42:20

So who knows? It's

42:22

a lot for me to learn. I don't know everything just

42:24

yet, but these are, they're

42:27

fun people. Amazon and Turner,

42:29

I've enjoyed getting to know them and

42:32

they're confident. They're confident

42:34

that they can do a great job and I'm

42:39

feeling good about it. Their Thursday

42:41

night football product is really good. So like,

42:43

you know, coming, they already know how to

42:45

do live sports. It's not gonna be forward

42:47

to them. I'm really excited to see what

42:49

they have going. Yeah, so we'll have more,

42:52

you know, again, we'll have

42:54

more information over the next several

42:56

months about what all that looks

42:58

like and man, we're gonna be working our tail off.

43:00

I can promise you this, we're gonna work hard to

43:04

make sure that, you know, we're doing

43:06

our job or I'm doing my job. We'll

43:09

put a lot of effort into it and

43:12

hopefully it comes across, it's

43:14

gonna be funny because we've been doing 20

43:16

races for NBC, right? And we'll

43:19

start off in the middle of the year and

43:24

it takes probably, for me personally,

43:26

I have pretty high standard of

43:29

where I think we should be as a broadcast.

43:31

I feel like that we really weren't getting

43:34

to our best work until like five races

43:36

to go. So like took

43:38

us, in my opinion, maybe just

43:41

me, took me like

43:43

10, 15 races for I was like,

43:46

all right, man, we're hitting on all cylinders here.

43:48

This is awesome, you know? And

43:51

all the broadcasts are great but you

43:53

would just have these moments where you're like, man,

43:55

I gotta get better at that. I gotta get

43:58

better here. I gotta figure this out. I

44:01

didn't put enough effort here

44:04

and I missed that. But

44:08

by the middle of the playoffs, I

44:10

felt like we were really covering

44:13

it all really well. With

44:17

Amazon and Turner, we're going to have five to

44:20

five race stretches, two

44:22

different teams. So you're going to

44:24

have five races to get it right. You

44:26

can't fool around. We've

44:29

got to hit the ground prepared, running. We've

44:33

got to be ready and

44:36

I think we're going to over prepare to

44:38

make sure that we don't end

44:42

that last race and go, man, we're not even in our

44:44

groove yet. I know

44:46

you said there's going to be more details that will

44:48

come in the future, but

44:51

this is public knowledge as of today. You're

44:54

going to be doing interviews,

44:56

ride-alongs with different people each

44:59

race, driving for TNT

45:04

with them riding the passenger seat. Are

45:06

you excited to show people your perspective

45:08

of what it's like to be in

45:10

a race car? Yeah, I think that's always

45:12

fun to see. Jeff

45:14

Burton did that quite a bit when

45:17

I was with NBC and I

45:20

think you always get a great reaction because I always

45:24

used to say, so I give a ride

45:26

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45:28

probably my favorite thing is to

45:30

put somebody in a race car or take

45:33

them out in a car on a racetrack and

45:35

really introduce them to

45:38

what that's like. They've never experienced anything like

45:40

it, right? And so they have a, you

45:42

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45:44

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45:51

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45:53

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45:55

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45:58

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46:01

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right everybody, calling in

48:08

to dirty air today is

48:11

second place finisher, Kansas Chris Busher.

48:14

And just want to thank you for

48:16

giving us some time today Chris. Wondering

48:20

where are you right now? Well

48:24

I'm in the office at the shop. We've

48:26

been doing for probably well

48:28

over a well

48:30

over two years at this point. So it's

48:33

getting close to being done at this time

48:35

but I'm sitting on my

48:37

Mac tools roll around stool for

48:40

the shop. This is

48:42

your own personal shop? Yeah, yeah.

48:44

This is at the house here. When you get this

48:46

shop done, are

48:48

you ever gonna have a race car in there? I'm

48:52

going to have race cars in here. I don't know

48:54

if they're going to be race

48:56

cars that I can go run on the weekend but

48:59

I have some of my old race cars that have

49:02

a little bit of meaning to me through

49:04

the years. I've got my first Vandalaro sitting

49:06

back there up on a lift. I've got

49:08

them actually when we went to this next

49:12

gen car I got two of the

49:14

two of the cup cars. My Pocono

49:16

wind car and

49:18

just one of the random cars that I ended

49:21

up liking through the years. So I've got

49:23

a couple to go in here already. Nice.

49:26

If you could ever race outside of the

49:28

cup series what would you go race today?

49:33

Just for fun I talked about trying to

49:35

run Baja a lot. I mentioned

49:37

it to Brendan Dawn. I know that he's

49:39

got a lot more experience desert racing to

49:41

me. I'd love to go give that a

49:43

shot. Something completely out there

49:46

way different. I've

49:49

dabbled in dirt racing here or

49:51

there and had an absolute blast

49:54

in weight models and modified

49:56

but I would love to go try

49:58

and run Baja. go man

50:01

all right well let's talk about Kansas

50:04

you went into that race we were just talking about it here

50:06

on the show you were 60 to 1 to win which are

50:08

pretty good

50:12

odds for someone making that bet

50:14

came so close honestly I

50:16

think you probably had a million

50:19

people tell you this already I

50:21

thought when I watched it live the 17

50:24

car had crossed the finish line first and

50:26

I was sure that you

50:28

had won the race now you know as

50:31

we all watch it back and that car

50:33

explains everything and we go through that whole

50:35

process literally lasted an hour

50:37

or two after the race all

50:39

the social media conversation

50:41

and everything we learned you

50:43

know what what the true outcome is

50:46

and we also saw your

50:48

reaction immediately after the race

50:51

man you were you were

50:53

so you know so

50:55

bummed out so you know

50:58

I think a lot of people really think

51:01

a lot of you the competitors kind of tough to

51:03

see taking a

51:05

loss that way is

51:08

this a loss I guess it might stick in your

51:10

gut for quite a while because of the way it

51:13

went down yes

51:15

I told

51:17

everybody I thought I was gonna throw up on

51:20

the way the airport after you know to

51:24

be I

51:26

guess when I look back at it if we've gone

51:28

across the line and from

51:30

the get-go thought we finished second you

51:33

would have you would have been upset

51:35

about it you'd have been heard about it but it

51:38

would have been okay but to

51:40

be in that like you said

51:42

that hour of time or really it

51:44

was that you first minute

51:47

that everything was very confusing we're trying to

51:49

figure out how in the world we're

51:52

getting this answer off of it you

51:55

know transponders and timing score and

51:57

everything are in our favor Obviously

52:00

the painted line, which

52:03

doesn't really matter, but it's comical right

52:05

now to talk about. But

52:08

to see it all play out

52:10

the way it did, it just hurts. And

52:13

knowing the result now and understanding

52:15

it, like y'all said, it's

52:18

not going to make it any easier. You understand it

52:21

now at least, but it's not going to make it

52:23

easier. This one's going to hurt

52:25

for a really, really long time. Some

52:28

of our guys said just don't let it hurt

52:30

any more than six days. Let's just go to

52:32

Arlington, win there, and we can put it behind

52:34

us. So we're trying to figure out how to

52:36

make that one work. But this one

52:38

hurts. I was

52:40

in the second at Phoenix, at

52:44

the Christopher Bell, and it wasn't even close, right?

52:46

I mean, he just walked away from the field.

52:49

And at that rate,

52:52

second felt good because we knew we needed a

52:54

lot of work to win. This

52:56

one to be that close and not be able to get it,

53:00

it's going to stick with us for a long time. Yeah,

53:02

and I think the unfortunate part is now

53:06

it is taking over the top spot

53:09

in the closest race ever,

53:11

right? The closest finish ever. We have

53:13

seen that clip of Kurt

53:15

Busch and Ricky Craven colliding

53:17

all the way down the front stretch at Darlington,

53:19

which is still probably going to be widely played

53:22

beyond this point because of how

53:24

incredible that moment was. But you'll

53:26

be seeing images

53:30

and videos of this, especially when we go back to

53:32

Kansas, promoting this race and promoting

53:34

how great the racing was. So

53:38

you don't deserve that. But

53:40

somehow, you'll have to, I

53:42

think it'll be interesting for you, I

53:44

guess, somehow, have to come to terms

53:47

with it, right? Have to be able

53:49

to figure out a way to live with it. I've

53:51

got races in my own career that we talked about earlier in

53:53

the show. I

53:56

didn't get over and I won't get over, even

53:59

today. I just feel like that I got

54:01

the short end of the stick and deserved

54:03

the win. But you do come out

54:07

of that race with incredible speed. You

54:12

ran great all day. You

54:14

were aggressive behind the steering wheel with your race car.

54:17

Incredible five wide action down the

54:19

frustrate away, which was

54:21

awesome. And you end up almost winning

54:23

the race. So do you, you have

54:26

to come away thinking, man, you know, that's nice

54:28

to see our team moving

54:30

in the right direction, at least at the mile and

54:32

a half. Y'all had a lot

54:34

of speed at short tracks and some other

54:36

racetracks. Where do you feel like you guys are right

54:38

now? I really

54:40

wasn't sure exactly what kind of a season to expect

54:43

from you this year, whether you could repeat what

54:45

you had done in the past or

54:48

even improve on that because of how challenging

54:50

and tough it is for operation like you

54:52

guys have. So where do

54:54

you feel like you are as a team? Yeah,

54:56

this is supposed to

54:59

be hard. You know, we don't want to

55:01

go do anything in

55:04

competition that's easy, you want a

55:06

challenge. And

55:08

certainly that's what we're trying to figure out

55:10

how to better last year. We

55:12

wanted to fire off this season with what

55:15

we were able to do in the second half of last year, would

55:18

that be our baseline? And

55:21

we've definitely had moments that have shown us

55:23

a lot of light at the end of

55:25

the tunnel. And we've

55:27

had some that haven't

55:29

been where we wanted to be, but we certainly fire

55:31

off this season pretty good. We've

55:34

been in the hunt for a couple of these things.

55:38

I think for RFK, I think that's four

55:40

runner up finishes now in

55:43

the first, what was it, 12 races, 11 or 12 races. So

55:46

I mean, that's close. Ultimately,

55:51

it's not a stat to write home about because

55:54

the wins are what matters, but we are in the

55:57

hunt for a lot of these things. And I think

55:59

that's what we're... internally trying to use

56:01

to measure Kansas 99.5% of

56:03

that race. There is nothing

56:07

but great things for us to throw our

56:09

pick up on and study and figure out

56:11

how to apply forward and even the last

56:13

bit, the last lap. It's funny to learn

56:16

from. I promise I wouldn't

56:18

do it the same again tomorrow, but

56:21

with that, that was our best

56:24

mile and a half start to finish. I

56:27

would argue probably actually a better day

56:30

for us than our Michigan win last

56:32

year. For

56:34

me, that's something

56:37

I look forward to as we head

56:39

into Darlington even, but outside

56:41

of Darlington getting back to some of these other mile and

56:43

a halfs where the first two

56:45

on the year, we didn't feel like

56:47

we hit it exactly where we needed

56:49

to and we're struggling with whatever it

56:51

is, whether it's the new

56:53

Mustang and trying to find a balance there.

56:56

If it's some

56:58

of the lull through the off season,

57:03

some of the smaller rules changes

57:05

or tightening up those rules, whatever

57:07

that may be, we haven't been

57:10

where we needed to be on these mile and a

57:12

halfs and this one certainly was.

57:14

If we can bring what

57:16

we just brought to Kansas, we

57:19

will win some of these mile and a half

57:21

races. The

57:23

competition will step up and get better and we will too,

57:25

but it was a huge momentum

57:28

weekend for us. We're

57:30

going to see the highway

57:33

of the part that we don't want to see

57:35

the most, but there's a lot of really good

57:37

stuff for us, for both of our race cars

57:39

to take forward that can make us think that

57:41

we're going to have another trophy a lot sooner

57:43

than later. I got to

57:46

ask you one last question and you get to work

57:48

right alongside a good

57:51

friend of mine and a great

57:53

competitor Bracken-Lasky. He's

57:55

done I

58:00

think I've talked to you about this before, but I

58:03

know that Brad being

58:06

an owner in this team is a dream

58:08

come true for him and something that he

58:10

envisioned for himself many, many years ago, something

58:12

he would want for himself. Here he is.

58:16

He's enjoying the

58:19

effort of that and your own

58:21

success has been able to validate

58:23

his efforts to become

58:25

an owner, but he is also wanting

58:28

to go to Victor Lane and win a race

58:30

as an owner, right, as a

58:32

race in this scenario. And

58:34

he's getting closer. We're starting to see where

58:37

that team's starting to really shine

58:39

in some moments. Is

58:43

that, is

58:46

the effort or the intensity of trying

58:48

to get Brad into Victor Lane apparent

58:51

inside the walls of that shop? Is

58:54

it sort of this sort of elephant in the room,

58:57

so to speak? Not a bad thing, but is it

58:59

a bit of a motivator, I guess, for RFK

59:02

and for even yourself as a

59:04

teammate to Brad to try to figure out,

59:06

you know, he's going to get it done.

59:08

It just feels like it's inevitable at any

59:10

moment. But is the anxiety

59:13

intensity about that ramping up? Probably

59:18

right. You

59:20

can see the drive, the

59:22

passion that he's got for

59:25

the ownership side and

59:28

what he's been able to do with RFK through

59:30

these couple of years is

59:33

incredible. I've

59:36

been under the Roush banner since I was just

59:39

before I turned 16 years old. So

59:41

half of my living lifetime, I have

59:43

been under this banner and I've

59:46

seen it in the last couple of years

59:48

come to a better place than I believe

59:51

it has ever been. With

59:54

that, that's a good start when you

59:56

talk about culture and opportunity

59:58

and potential. in a lot of ways,

1:00:01

but our sport

1:00:03

is measured by trophies. And,

1:00:05

you know, obviously last year was

1:00:08

really strong for us and the

1:00:10

Daytona win, I'm sure that

1:00:13

there were a lot of hard decisions that ran

1:00:15

through Brad's head in that home and

1:00:17

figuring out how to win, but

1:00:20

also made sure that both of our

1:00:22

cars made it back to the finish

1:00:24

line, right? To

1:00:27

be fair, I fully expected to be side

1:00:29

by side with tire marks up and down

1:00:31

both of our four Mustangs there. And,

1:00:33

you know, it just didn't materialize quite that way

1:00:35

at the end, but it's

1:00:37

definitely something that you can see his

1:00:39

drive, trying to figure out how to

1:00:42

get the victory lane. It's, and

1:00:44

they've been very close to you, right? Like I

1:00:47

said, we've had two runner ups

1:00:49

from each of our teams this year. So we're knocking

1:00:52

on the door, but

1:00:54

you know, it's important to them. I

1:00:57

see what all these put in to try

1:01:00

and have this dual roll, you

1:01:04

know, on top

1:01:06

of being a dad and having a

1:01:08

family too, but watching

1:01:10

them try and juggle all this is absolutely

1:01:12

incredible. It has assured me

1:01:14

that I have zero interest in owning a

1:01:16

race team going forward. I

1:01:21

cannot fathom the time. I

1:01:24

don't have that kind of ability

1:01:27

to process time like he does. I

1:01:29

give him an absolute ton of credit

1:01:31

in that sense. I

1:01:34

don't want it to have to

1:01:36

feel like I got to work that hard, but

1:01:39

with all that, the results are coming in

1:01:41

and they're very close. And it's

1:01:43

just a matter of time, like you said, that we will

1:01:45

get wins with both our race cars this year, but

1:01:48

we're going to have to talk about it leading

1:01:51

up to that point. And we're going to have to

1:01:53

talk about what it feels like to be that close

1:01:55

and miss first. Yeah. Well, man, we appreciate

1:01:57

your time today. Know you got a busy week and get ready

1:01:59

for the next. Next one, you're an easy guy

1:02:01

to root for, always a professional. We appreciate

1:02:03

you here at Dirty Mo Media in the

1:02:05

Deljener Download. Thank you, Chris. Now,

1:02:08

I appreciate it very much y'all. Have a good one, sir. All

1:02:10

right. You too. Can't

1:02:13

wait to see what the odds are for Chris

1:02:15

Busher when he goes into Darlington. Won't be 60

1:02:17

to one, I bet. No,

1:02:20

I think it's 22 to one to start off. Oh,

1:02:22

really? Yeah. What a tilting line. All

1:02:24

right, man. It's a lot of fun to talk to him and glad

1:02:26

to have him call in. We're

1:02:32

live on Ash Jr.

1:02:37

This is very entertaining. This is good TV.

1:02:39

All right. Hey, everybody. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome to

1:02:42

Ash Jr. Dale's going to be answering our

1:02:44

questions today. Oh, sorry. Go

1:02:46

ahead. I was texting with a high

1:02:48

ranking official in NASCAR. Oh, wow. Um,

1:02:51

hey, everybody. Uh, appreciate

1:02:53

you being patient. Welcome back to, uh, Ash

1:02:55

Jr. And, um, yeah,

1:02:58

let's get started. See what your guys are up

1:03:00

to today. First question coming from

1:03:02

Marcus. They saw you tweeted that you saw

1:03:04

Casey Kane at dinner last week. They were

1:03:06

wondering how long has it been since you

1:03:08

two have spoken. It's funny, man. Casey shops

1:03:10

right next to Irish here at Junior Murder

1:03:12

Sports. And, uh, I see every once

1:03:14

in a while his social media activity.

1:03:17

Um, and, um,

1:03:19

he will, he

1:03:22

might like a tweet of mine or something and I'll

1:03:24

be like, Oh, man, there is. There is. And

1:03:27

in that way though, I mean, with all your friends

1:03:29

that you, you know, you got friends, right? That you

1:03:31

don't see all the time or talk to, but you'll

1:03:33

see them like do something on social

1:03:36

media and go, it's almost like passing

1:03:38

them on the highway. Right. Hey

1:03:40

buddy. Yeah. Um, Casey,

1:03:43

I always love to call my

1:03:45

old teammates, my teammates. They're my teammates,

1:03:47

right? Life for life. Uh,

1:03:50

Casey was one of my, uh, Casey

1:03:53

was a great dude, one of my favorite teammates.

1:03:55

I mean, I didn't really have any bad teammates,

1:03:57

but always liked Casey.

1:04:00

and we had some fun together off

1:04:02

the track, goofing off, having beers and

1:04:04

so forth. He

1:04:08

picked up the Bud deal after I

1:04:12

left EI and so we kind

1:04:14

of connected on that. And

1:04:18

yeah, I always enjoyed him.

1:04:20

Easy guy to be around. Told

1:04:22

him at dinner he needs to come

1:04:24

race in the cars tour and he said he's down.

1:04:28

And he wants to come by the shop because he says he hasn't seen a stock

1:04:30

car in a long time. So

1:04:33

I thought that was funny.

1:04:35

But I would love to get him in a

1:04:38

cars tour race which we should be able to

1:04:40

make that happen. We'll just have

1:04:42

to see. That would be super cool. That was the three

1:04:44

things I saw on social media when you posted that picture. It

1:04:46

was get him in a cars tour ride, get him in the

1:04:48

88 and have him on

1:04:50

the download. I tweeted yesterday thanks to everybody

1:04:52

for watching the cars tour race at ACES

1:04:55

last weekend. We had a lot of viewers

1:04:58

which was great to see. Thanks

1:05:02

again. The cars tour

1:05:04

is a lot of fun. It's doing well. It's putting

1:05:06

on some great races and people are tuning in on

1:05:08

Flow to see it. That is

1:05:11

awesome. We've got a bunch of people

1:05:13

tuning in from West Virginia, Pittsburgh, Nashville.

1:05:15

So the YouTube chat is moving pretty

1:05:17

good. This one's from the YouTube chat.

1:05:21

Rob wants to know what's the bronze car that's sitting

1:05:23

right next to you right there? This

1:05:25

was a, so they

1:05:28

give the gold, Goodyear gives the gold

1:05:30

car to

1:05:33

the Cup Series Championship and back in the

1:05:35

day they gave this car,

1:05:38

I guess it's made out of

1:05:40

silver, I don't know, they

1:05:43

gave this to the Busch Series Champion and this is

1:05:45

the 1999 Goodyear Championship trophy.

1:05:49

That's cool. I never

1:05:52

did win a Cup Championship but I grew up in

1:05:54

a house with about seven of

1:05:56

those gold cars and I would go to

1:05:58

the banquet with Dad when he won a championship. and

1:06:00

looking at that gold car because you're a kid right

1:06:03

you're like what it's a toy

1:06:05

is this a toy man but

1:06:07

it's made of gold and you're looking

1:06:09

at it and they're like the detail

1:06:12

in this thing and how much did

1:06:14

that cost right or whatever it's just a

1:06:16

that gold car that they still give away

1:06:18

right Blaney has one it's

1:06:21

in a mate it's I think for for

1:06:25

the cup champion and growing

1:06:27

up around dad him winning his I mean it's

1:06:29

it's one of the cooler trophies is right up

1:06:32

there with the grandfather clock from Martinsville it's one

1:06:34

of the cooler trophies that you can win in

1:06:36

this sport is the Goodyear

1:06:38

trophy from for the Cup Series championship

1:06:41

that gold car yeah yeah I

1:06:43

think it always looks it always looks

1:06:45

pretty cool and like yeah like you

1:06:48

said the detail on that it's pretty

1:06:50

it's neat pretty impressive let's see this

1:06:52

next question coming from Kyle

1:06:55

and you know we didn't talk about

1:06:57

it last week but NASCAR said they're

1:07:00

gonna use multiple tire compounds for the

1:07:02

all-star race at North Wilkesboro what are

1:07:04

your thoughts on that I hope that

1:07:06

goes well you know I hope that

1:07:08

it does provide

1:07:10

some strategy comers and goers

1:07:12

all that stuff I

1:07:15

don't I wonder how

1:07:19

I wonder like when so all

1:07:22

right if I give you

1:07:24

a hard tire right and

1:07:26

which I'm probably have to do because brand

1:07:29

new brand new asphalt I got to

1:07:31

make sure my tire didn't blow out on you

1:07:33

right I don't want you running around there lap

1:07:35

50 blow right front tire hit the fence so

1:07:37

I'm gonna give you a pretty pretty good

1:07:39

durable tire and and

1:07:42

then I'm gonna give you a soft

1:07:44

tire that's gonna haul but for a

1:07:46

while but

1:07:49

it might eventually wear

1:07:51

out and slow down and so you can't run it you

1:07:53

know you're gonna run that when

1:07:56

right when are you gonna run that you're gonna put

1:07:58

it on probably at the end when it matters right.

1:08:03

If it's hard to pass though, which

1:08:05

we usually hate, but if

1:08:07

it is hard to pass you might actually put that

1:08:10

tire on and try to get track position somewhere in

1:08:12

the middle of the race and hope that

1:08:14

you can keep it with your hard tire when it's back on the

1:08:16

car at the end. So that

1:08:20

you know we'll just have to see how it plays out.

1:08:22

Typically everybody

1:08:26

does the same thing like

1:08:29

they all figure out what works best. Right. Yeah and

1:08:31

so we'll have a race where they're all on the

1:08:33

hard tire and then they're all on the soft tire

1:08:35

and and and when

1:08:37

they're on soft tire they'll all just go a little faster

1:08:40

right. Hopefully it doesn't happen

1:08:42

that way. Hopefully somebody goes I'm

1:08:44

taking a chance and I'm putting soft tire

1:08:46

on early or

1:08:48

before everybody else and

1:08:51

we'll see we'll see if that works. I'm all for

1:08:54

her. I don't think you can keep the tire and

1:08:57

hope that you have it though at the

1:08:59

end when when the rest of the

1:09:01

teams don't because I don't think you can I

1:09:04

don't think it'll be so awesome so

1:09:06

good that you can just drive through the field with 20

1:09:09

or 10 laps to go right you because you hung on

1:09:11

to your soft tires. I think

1:09:13

it'll you know you'll pass some cars

1:09:15

but not not the not a lot not enough

1:09:17

to matter and so I think

1:09:20

it might come down to whether you

1:09:22

use the soft tire early and

1:09:25

you try to figure out a way to get track

1:09:27

position that you may hang on to like you know

1:09:29

if you're fortunate enough the rest of the race. This

1:09:32

is like unrelated but aren't

1:09:34

lap times like way way faster with

1:09:36

the new pavement? Two seconds? Two and

1:09:38

a half seconds. That's pretty significant. Yeah

1:09:41

and they they

1:09:44

took a big risk when they paved

1:09:46

this racetrack they so

1:09:49

aggregate the ratio

1:09:51

of asphalt

1:09:55

tar and all that versus

1:09:59

crushed rock or Grand or if

1:10:01

you're down by the east, or

1:10:04

if you're down by the coast, you might get crushed seashell. Wherever

1:10:07

you are geographically, whatever

1:10:09

the most common stuff

1:10:13

you're pulling out of the local granite or the local

1:10:15

quarry, that's what they're

1:10:17

crushing up and they're putting that into the asphalt.

1:10:21

And it's

1:10:23

just kind of filler. It's filler for asphalt,

1:10:25

right? Because you're not going

1:10:28

to, it's cheaper, right? Than just

1:10:30

poor and pure asphalt. That's

1:10:33

going to last forever. They

1:10:38

used an aggregate or a ratio

1:10:41

that had more filler, more crushed

1:10:43

concrete and particles, right? And so as they're

1:10:45

testing out there, that stuff comes out of

1:10:47

the track. You want it to. And

1:10:50

it makes the track have pits and

1:10:53

divots and it makes it abrasive. And

1:10:55

so this track should age at

1:10:57

a very, very rapid pace, which

1:11:01

is interesting because y'all remember when the mile and a

1:11:03

half package

1:11:06

wasn't good and they made Charlotte the

1:11:08

roval. Well, they made Charlotte the roval

1:11:10

because the races there were boring and

1:11:13

everybody ran right around the bottom. And the reason

1:11:15

why that track wasn't good then is

1:11:19

because they had just recently repaved it

1:11:21

and the pavement was lasting forever. It

1:11:23

wasn't changing color. And the reason why

1:11:25

it wasn't changing color, because the aggregate

1:11:27

was rubber. They had actually

1:11:29

used like rubber recycled

1:11:32

rubber and stuff in place

1:11:34

of like crushed rock or crushed

1:11:36

seashells. And so you're racing

1:11:38

rubber on rubber. And

1:11:40

the track just had tons of grip all the

1:11:42

time, right? And so the fastest way was always

1:11:44

on the bottom. And they

1:11:46

were like,

1:11:50

hey man, this is like the latest

1:11:52

technology in asphalt. We've repaved this track.

1:11:54

It's going to last forever. And we're

1:11:56

like, great. And then after about five

1:11:59

or eight years, we're like. And this isn't so

1:12:01

great. And so, you know, now we're

1:12:03

kind of, we've learned all this, right? And now they're

1:12:05

all like, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're

1:12:07

gonna have to, we're gonna spend money to repave the

1:12:09

track and

1:12:12

intentionally pave

1:12:15

it in a way to where it'll wear out

1:12:17

and age. We

1:12:20

won't get a surface that lasts 30 years, it'll

1:12:22

last 15 or 20. So

1:12:24

we're costing ourselves money on the back end,

1:12:27

but they know that the product on the

1:12:29

racetrack is that important. So hopefully

1:12:31

this works out for Wilkes-Barrelin. Hopefully it's around

1:12:33

for 15 or 20 years. Yeah,

1:12:38

I agree. This next

1:12:40

question coming from Debbie, what's the secret

1:12:42

to finding the best pre-race bathroom? I

1:12:44

know I've seen this thing happen, the

1:12:46

National Anthem happens and all the drivers

1:12:48

make a bolt for the porta-potties or

1:12:50

whatever bathroom is like, what's the secret

1:12:52

when you were a cup driver? To

1:12:55

using the bathroom? Like to like, before

1:12:57

the race, you know? Were

1:12:59

you ever part of that like mad dash, like try

1:13:01

and get to the bathroom before the race? No. Why

1:13:04

would you wanna wait till the last second? Well,

1:13:07

because, well, you would wanna

1:13:09

wait till the last second, Did you

1:13:11

make this question up? No. You sure? Yes.

1:13:16

Listen, I mean, it's

1:13:19

a thing. I don't think it's a thing.

1:13:21

It is. Never heard of this. Yes. There's

1:13:24

a mad rush of drivers

1:13:27

hustling to the bathroom before

1:13:29

road trips. I've seen it. They're not five

1:13:31

year olds. I

1:13:34

know, but like sometimes it's hard to find. Don't

1:13:36

use the potty. I've talked to PR at the

1:13:38

home race now. I've talked to the home race.

1:13:40

Come on, Kyle, we gotta go. Go use the

1:13:43

potty so you don't see yourself. You

1:13:46

gotta go potty before we start. I

1:13:48

go now. Go now, we're

1:13:50

not stopping. You better come now. You

1:13:52

can't start the race, do you potty? Are

1:13:55

you lying? You better tell me. I

1:13:58

love it. I've talked to

1:14:01

PR reps and some of them

1:14:03

have said they've scouted out bathrooms for

1:14:05

their drivers and like yeah, okay,

1:14:07

I Mean

1:14:09

I'm trying to make sure that's all taken care of

1:14:11

yeah Well

1:14:14

before the

1:14:17

race starts I Yeah,

1:14:21

I mean that it in It

1:14:25

the worst thing this is the worst

1:14:28

thing to put yourself through is Your

1:14:32

you know spot say it's like Wednesday or Thursday and you're

1:14:34

gonna go to the racetrack and they're like, oh man It's

1:14:36

gonna be a hot one this weekend What

1:14:39

how hot? 90s. Mmm,

1:14:42

that's and you're like crap That's

1:14:45

no fun. Cuz that's the

1:14:47

last car racing racing cars is great

1:14:50

the worst part about it and it's bad It's

1:14:53

the heat I mean, this is

1:14:55

125 on a good day We

1:14:58

saw remember it font or

1:15:00

California or Chicago Chicago my

1:15:02

first I think it was my first Year

1:15:06

broadcast. Oh, yeah. I remember that.

1:15:08

Yeah. Well, it's like your second year. No,

1:15:10

it's the first the bus second race What

1:15:13

yeah, you know the infinity the Xfinity guys

1:15:15

got out and all of them were falling

1:15:17

over is 150

1:15:20

degrees inside the cars Awful

1:15:22

that was like the worst I've ever seen it Miserable

1:15:27

and so, you know, you'll you'll hear that

1:15:29

and you're like, oh man. I gotta make sure I'm hydrated

1:15:32

Cuz I've dried out in a race and

1:15:34

you start getting delirious You start like getting

1:15:37

dizzy and you start seeing things freaking out.

1:15:39

Yeah, you're gonna pass out. You really are

1:15:42

and so You Don't

1:15:44

want that to happen and you'll drink a

1:15:47

lot of water thinking man, you know Gonna drink and

1:15:49

drink and drink and there's nothing you can do You

1:15:51

can go to the bathroom right before right standing next

1:15:53

to the car and you're gonna have to pee again

1:15:55

in the next 30 minutes Or 45 minutes and you're

1:15:57

gonna be in the car at that point. You'll be

1:15:59

racing And so that's the

1:16:01

worst part is like you know, it's gonna

1:16:03

be hot You know, you've got to hydrate

1:16:06

and you hydrate and you know, you're gonna have to pee

1:16:09

in the car and that's not avoidable and

1:16:12

so You

1:16:14

know, I think I don't know I've peed in

1:16:16

the race car probably I can count on one

1:16:18

hand In my

1:16:20

career but time the bathroom out great, but

1:16:22

it happens Those are

1:16:24

the worst Usually

1:16:27

it's not an issue Yeah, I'm usually

1:16:29

it's not so I'm not worried about the

1:16:31

heat and I'm not drinking in a large amount of water The

1:16:35

morning of the race putting myself in a position where

1:16:37

I've got to go, you know pee

1:16:39

a lot Great

1:16:42

question. Thank you so much really proud of

1:16:45

that one It's a good

1:16:47

question. Um, well, I guess follow-up. Do you

1:16:49

remember specifically when and what lap that you

1:16:51

had? I Alright

1:16:55

we got time for one more I've been let's not

1:16:57

end on that note I've

1:17:00

been seeing it in the YouTube chat. I think

1:17:02

it's from Joey Thoughts

1:17:04

on NASCAR every using like a

1:17:06

push-to-pass type system that Indy car

1:17:08

uses No, no what?

1:17:12

Get rid of it. I agree. I saw him

1:17:14

ask it a few times. Yeah Not

1:17:17

a fan. Oh, man. No, that would be

1:17:19

sacrilegious in my opinion If

1:17:21

you can't pass them, sorry, I'm not gonna

1:17:23

give you a We're

1:17:25

gonna an assist. Yeah, we're gonna put a booster

1:17:27

pad on the track How about yeah, if

1:17:30

they're gonna give a push to pass just

1:17:32

might as well give them steering assist Here,

1:17:34

let me just let the car just go through the corner. You

1:17:37

just don't even have to do anything Just hold

1:17:39

it straight on the straightaway Wow,

1:17:41

right. Yeah, it's like oil slick button

1:17:43

what shoots oil out the back. What do you want to

1:17:45

do? I Had

1:17:48

other AIDS driver aids. Do you want to give

1:17:50

them? I think we need more mirror. You know

1:17:52

what get rid of the shifters Automatic

1:17:55

training. Yeah, no more

1:17:57

shift. I think that's a

1:17:59

good idea idea. I'm all for that. That's

1:18:01

right. So

1:18:05

Joey no. No push to pass.

1:18:07

What about, this

1:18:09

is all in video games back

1:18:11

in the day. What about automatic brakes man don't

1:18:13

even have to master brakes. I remember that. We

1:18:15

used to fall flying into a

1:18:18

corner. We're gonna keep you from hitting

1:18:20

the wall don't worry just hold it

1:18:22

wide open everything's gonna be fine. Drivers

1:18:24

should get that little LED of where

1:18:26

the racing line is. The driving line.

1:18:28

Hit some point the driver's not even

1:18:30

necessary. Have them sitting on the pit

1:18:32

box. AI NASCAR League. Yeah push to

1:18:34

pass. Well

1:18:38

that answers that question. That's

1:18:41

a good place to end action here today. Maybe

1:18:43

not a good place but that's where we were. We're

1:18:46

ending it here. No driving.

1:18:49

Wait no no no that that

1:18:51

was that was a this

1:18:54

is like an extension to the conversation we were talking about

1:18:56

last week with the camera. Yeah right boy

1:18:58

that got some people riled

1:19:00

up. Remember that? Yeah. Talking

1:19:03

about the aero blocking right and their

1:19:06

new in-car camera that's digital.

1:19:08

It's so clear you can see perfectly.

1:19:11

All of my life we've raced with cars

1:19:13

with camera with the mirror up here and

1:19:15

you're like you can never see good out

1:19:18

of this thing. You can't see the corners of

1:19:20

the car. You can literally just kind of make

1:19:23

out like a you know

1:19:26

basically kind of a rough idea of what's going

1:19:28

on back there. And now they have these little

1:19:30

cuts even in the bush cars or extended cars.

1:19:32

They have these little cuts in the in the

1:19:34

rear glass and that really screws up

1:19:36

the view out of the back right. And

1:19:39

so hell that's the way we race forever. And

1:19:42

that was good enough. And now we have these digital

1:19:44

mirrors and all the blocking that happens

1:19:46

at some of the racetracks is

1:19:49

more aggressive and easier to do because guys are like

1:19:52

if we've even accomplished and all these guys even say it hey

1:19:55

I can just look in the mirror and just go where they

1:19:57

go. Oh he's going high. I'll just go high. You're

1:20:00

like, why do we want that? man

1:20:03

This is like this is such a

1:20:05

dumb analogy, but it's like how I

1:20:07

feel parallel parking with the rearview camera

1:20:10

I'm like, I feel like i'm cheating Well, like because I

1:20:12

used to have to do the mirrors and i'm like, it's

1:20:14

so easy now with the rearview camera I feel like when

1:20:16

you turn the wheels got the Guys show the hands and

1:20:19

you're like you can't if you can't parallel park now. Yeah,

1:20:21

so that's how I feel I'm like man. It's gotta be

1:20:23

easy just to go up the track go down the track.

1:20:25

Yeah right, yeah But

1:20:28

man, we we said we were like

1:20:30

hey we should maybe talk about have

1:20:32

a conversation about whether we should you

1:20:35

know Yeah, take open the door. Digital mirror out

1:20:38

Yeah Stay away from that one though. Some

1:20:41

people got mad We

1:20:43

shouldn't have digital mirrors because our cars have

1:20:47

I guess technology we need it in the way of

1:20:49

technology put ac in there. Yeah, we need some radio

1:20:52

Yeah Yeah, yeah, you

1:20:55

can see your text messages while you're racing.

1:20:57

Cub holder. Yeah, exactly Yes, why

1:20:59

not? And how it breaks? Why not?

1:21:01

Why not someone said in youtube chat when they open

1:21:03

the video game they the first thing they do is

1:21:05

put the automatic brakes on And

1:21:08

the driving line That's what

1:21:10

I said. Yeah, you said that yeah, so you

1:21:13

could you we could a driver could hit a

1:21:15

button and here's the line Just race this line

1:21:18

The perfect line I've

1:21:20

been playing a lot of nascar 15 lately and there's a

1:21:23

redo button too. I would like to oh, there you go

1:21:25

A reverse button. Sorry for raking you up recently There

1:21:28

should be a button in the car where the drivers

1:21:30

all vote to do the restart over like that one

1:21:33

Oh, we've got 28 votes. Denny

1:21:35

jumped it Do

1:21:38

it over Yeah

1:21:41

Let's just go on and on. Yeah, yeah,

1:21:43

we can get ridiculous with it. Yeah, I

1:21:45

would really I

1:21:48

think you know the the push-to-pass, uh

1:21:52

but they have they had

1:21:54

uh That

1:21:57

thing's in f1 where you can lower the change

1:21:59

of your spoiler or stuff like that. I mean, I

1:22:01

could not. I'm

1:22:04

with you on that opinion, by the way. I

1:22:07

was just asking the question. But yeah, the

1:22:09

less resources you have, the better, I think.

1:22:12

Big win for Lando, by the way. I'll be honest, though. I

1:22:16

mean, remember the adjustable track bar? Yeah,

1:22:19

you could change it in the car, yeah. Oh yeah. Was

1:22:21

that good? Did you like that? I

1:22:23

liked it, but Denny and a bunch of guys argued that

1:22:26

it made passing harder because a guy could just

1:22:28

change his car and if

1:22:30

you were catching him and you're like, man, I'm gonna

1:22:32

pass this guy. He's handling terrible. He could fix that,

1:22:34

right? And then you're like, meh, I'm not passing him.

1:22:37

He fixed his car. And so

1:22:39

I understand that argument, but

1:22:41

I kinda enjoyed being able to, there

1:22:43

was weight jackers, you know, that people,

1:22:45

you know, in certain cars. There's

1:22:48

always been sort of adjustments. You can do brake

1:22:50

bias and stuff like that. And so I thought

1:22:52

the track bar was sort of in

1:22:54

the same vein for me. So

1:22:57

I didn't mind it as much. I probably

1:22:59

didn't need to be messing with it, but you

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right, it's time for Dirty Mo' Do. Let's

1:23:43

talk about all the bets that the team made this

1:23:45

week. Alex

1:23:47

Tims joins us at the table.

1:23:51

And let's see how

1:23:53

it went, man. How'd it go? The predictor

1:23:55

was five for 10, so average

1:23:57

week there, but you got Kyle

1:23:59

Larson. for the winner so that was good. Personally,

1:24:02

we saw a lot of people follow

1:24:05

the cash out a long shot strategy and bet

1:24:07

a favorite live and a lot of people hit

1:24:09

on Larson so they liked that strategy. Nice,

1:24:12

so did

1:24:15

you pull that? I

1:24:17

was about to pull the trigger on Chastain because he

1:24:20

had a, I could

1:24:22

double my money in the first stage but I

1:24:24

waited because I was like well this is gonna

1:24:26

be higher in the second stage, he

1:24:28

fell off and that thing dropped like a rock. So I

1:24:30

made my chance but it was nice to see it could

1:24:32

get as early as the first stage you can cash out

1:24:34

for a nice profit. Yeah, Chastain lost his track position, they

1:24:36

were able to get it back. What

1:24:39

about Ford's value? The

1:24:43

value is big there, Busher 60 to one to win. Yeah

1:24:46

rightfully so, I mean they've struggled all year but

1:24:48

I mean Busher being 60 to one and was

1:24:51

literally right there for the win was crazy

1:24:53

and it'll be interesting coming into Darlington seeing

1:24:56

how their value will change but I mean

1:24:58

the books are not

1:25:00

adjusting to Ford's success right now, the

1:25:03

minor success they had last week so that could be

1:25:05

a spot to target this week. What are the predictions

1:25:07

for Darlington? Well it's so hard

1:25:09

to just not go against the favorites right

1:25:12

I mean it's another Hendrick or Hendrick or

1:25:14

one last week, they'll be strong again but

1:25:17

Darlington's more of a driver's track I feel. Not a lot

1:25:19

of you know, if you're a good driver

1:25:21

and you know you can just manage the track I think

1:25:23

you can have a good run so I might target some

1:25:25

of those guys and Ford I mean the value's there right

1:25:28

now. All right, well man we hope it goes

1:25:30

well. I think it'd be hard not to

1:25:32

put a little bit of money on Chase Elliott and he's got an

1:25:34

awesome looking race car. Yeah. And

1:25:36

I heard he's gonna be wearing some skeleton gloves. Oh yeah,

1:25:38

I heard about that. So that's pretty cool.

1:25:40

That's pretty cool. Yeah, so it'd be neat

1:25:42

if he could take that car to Victor Lane, our throwback from

1:25:44

2014, Daytona 500 victory. Dirty

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1:25:52

on our Dirty Mo Media platforms. You don't

1:25:54

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1:25:56

Tims and the professor, those guys are gonna tell you everything you

1:25:58

need to know about the upcoming race. week. What

1:26:01

are some good bets to make for the good value? And

1:26:04

so far so good man. Alright, thank you Tim.

1:26:06

Sweet thanks. Alright

1:26:08

now it's time to talk about the

1:26:10

cars tour. Blake McAnlis is going to

1:26:12

recap everything that happened this past weekend

1:26:14

at 8th Speedway, a fantastic race. I

1:26:17

wonder if Blake will tell us about having

1:26:19

to sing the national anthem. They

1:26:21

were short on Anthem singer, Blake

1:26:23

volunteers. That's amazing. I don't think I have

1:26:26

the guts for that. You wouldn't do that?

1:26:28

No I wouldn't. I think I really they

1:26:30

put out in a release the next day

1:26:32

that they were looking for a national anthem

1:26:34

singer full-time and

1:26:36

he's like man maybe I just didn't do a good enough job. I

1:26:39

think in it I was like hey you're like

1:26:42

I was like you're a serviceable backup quarterback

1:26:44

came into the game hit the lead won

1:26:46

the game for him. You're not gonna start

1:26:48

next week. Team's never gonna let you start

1:26:51

but you were there when it matters. Exactly. He

1:26:53

can always say I sang the national anthem

1:26:55

at a sporting event. Yes. That's pretty cool

1:26:57

I think. I think I will never say

1:26:59

that. I think offered I would I would

1:27:02

do it. That's great. I think offered I would throw

1:27:05

up and just crawl in the hole. Alright

1:27:08

Blake take it away. After

1:27:10

a day-long test at North Wells Crow

1:27:12

Speedway a week prior the Z-Max cars

1:27:14

tour presented by Soundgear headed off to

1:27:16

Alamance County's eighth Speedway on a rare

1:27:18

Friday night occasion as both

1:27:20

the late model stocks and pro late

1:27:22

models look to dazzle in front of

1:27:24

a sellout crowd at the famous four

1:27:26

tenths miles. To start off the action

1:27:28

on a hot and sunny Friday afternoon

1:27:31

were 25 of the late model stock

1:27:33

car competitors looking to pencil in their

1:27:35

starting spots at a racetrack notorious for

1:27:37

rewarding stellar track position. At the end

1:27:39

of the session it was Statesville

1:27:41

North Carolina's Ryan Millington who took

1:27:43

the top honors notching his third

1:27:45

career Thunder Road Harley Davidson Polar

1:27:47

Ward all of which have been

1:27:49

earned in Alta Maha. Brendan Queen,

1:27:51

Chad McCumby, Jacob Hefner and Cade

1:27:53

Brown completed the top five starters.

1:27:56

There was plenty of drama to start off the night

1:27:58

with a handful of competitors. is experiencing

1:28:00

some early problems. And,

1:28:02

oh, trouble, turn one, that is

1:28:05

Andrew Grady. Engine issues that

1:28:07

would appear for the number one out

1:28:09

of Youngsville, North Carolina. Again, a butter

1:28:11

bean hanging tough on the outside, but

1:28:13

he'll try to get down in front

1:28:15

of the company. Oh, Dylan Bassett, that

1:28:17

was big. That was a big,

1:28:19

big saving moment. Big checkup there,

1:28:22

heavy damage for Connor Hall,

1:28:24

your championship pick leader. Move on

1:28:26

his part as he was going to get

1:28:28

squeezed three wide. He recognized it, lifted out of

1:28:30

the gas, oh, and more trouble. Dylan

1:28:32

Harville once again sparks flying underneath

1:28:35

that race car to the inside

1:28:37

of Butterbean. Right now we're front straightaway.

1:28:39

Connor Hall turned around backwards. And

1:28:41

a precarious spot there just past

1:28:43

the start-finish line. And

1:28:46

your championship point leader having more issues.

1:28:48

After a dominant opening half of the

1:28:50

race, Millington continued to set the pace

1:28:52

before eventual damage to the track bar

1:28:55

as his number 15 leisure-time Reynolds machine

1:28:57

made it a three-car brawl for the

1:28:59

lead to the end. Cloppel thought of

1:29:02

making it three wide, but does it for now. 30

1:29:04

laps to go. They will look three wide

1:29:06

on the front straightaway. Eight, Cloppel down

1:29:08

to the bottom. He thinks better of

1:29:10

it. Millington still moving on. That 15

1:29:12

car is good with that much damage.

1:29:14

Allen, it's still holding on to the

1:29:16

lead. Carson Cloppel not going anywhere, trying to come

1:29:19

off four, get the better angle as he turns.

1:29:21

Steven nearly climbs with Queen.

1:29:24

As they battle, we'll see if Millington can get

1:29:26

out a little bit ahead of this. That's the

1:29:28

two in second and third place battle. The Cloppel,

1:29:30

end of the race. Look who shows up. The

1:29:33

driver of that A-car now solidly in

1:29:35

second position. He's going after the lead.

1:29:37

It is no way. Cloppel is too

1:29:39

good with the damage that the 15

1:29:41

car has. He is now sunk. Not

1:29:44

the perfect restart, but he's able to get under

1:29:46

Millington in three and four. What a drive that

1:29:48

car has. That car, that 15

1:29:50

car would not hold the bottom with the

1:29:53

damage. The damage is what has cost Ryan

1:29:55

this race, I do believe, but he is still

1:29:57

hanging tight on the outside. What a

1:29:59

move. Carson Quoppell officially to

1:30:01

the lead. It was a lead he

1:30:03

would not relinquish as Carson Quoppell went

1:30:05

on to capture the checkered flag for

1:30:07

his second win in the Car's Tour

1:30:09

season and third straight at Ace Speedway.

1:30:11

Yeah, I mean it's just hard racing

1:30:14

the whole time. I mean these guys

1:30:16

are so good. All

1:30:18

the cars in the Car's Tour, it's just

1:30:20

crazy how close everybody is. So to have

1:30:22

a little bit more there at the end

1:30:24

was a huge help. Just can't thank Junior

1:30:26

Motorsports, Bass Pro Shops, Chevrolet, Kelli L.W. Dale,

1:30:28

everyone at the big shop for all their

1:30:30

help. It was a really good night for us. Brendan

1:30:33

Queen brought a home in second

1:30:35

with Ryan Millington in third. Bobby

1:30:37

McCarty and Chad McCumby completed your

1:30:39

top five. While Ronnie Bassett Jr.,

1:30:41

Traitin Lapsovich, Isabella Robusto, Minnie Tyrell

1:30:43

and Jacob Hoeffner rounded out your

1:30:46

top ten. The

1:30:48

Pro Late models also took to the track for their fourth

1:30:50

race of the 2024 season as

1:30:52

younger brother to Carson, Cade and Quoppell

1:30:54

captured his first small-lane pole award of

1:30:57

the season after being the final car

1:30:59

to go out and qualifying. Luke Baldwin

1:31:01

joined him on the front row with

1:31:04

Nick Lowden, Jake Bolman and Kyle Campbell

1:31:06

setting the fastest five times. Despite

1:31:08

a pair of cautions in the opening laps,

1:31:11

the race proceeded along without much issue until

1:31:13

a restart with just 32 laps to go.

1:31:16

As they enter the Death Wish

1:31:18

Coffee Restart Zone, 32 laps

1:31:20

to settle in here in Altamaha. Quoppell

1:31:23

with a great jump on the inside, but

1:31:25

same can be said for Spencer Davis as

1:31:27

Lowden on top of the side of the

1:31:29

24 as they hit the

1:31:31

outside wall. Dylan Garter gets collected

1:31:33

as well, and Caution Flag is

1:31:35

out as two of your top

1:31:37

contenders have issues. When all

1:31:40

is said and done, it was Cade and Quoppell

1:31:42

who was able to go to Victory Lane after

1:31:44

leading all 100 laps. starts

1:32:00

and we were able to do that and get through

1:32:02

at least one lap clear and then start

1:32:04

to drive away so we had a really good car. Spencer

1:32:07

Davis, Kaden Honeycutt, William Sawalich and Connor

1:32:09

Jones completed your top five in the

1:32:11

pro late models. After a

1:32:13

weekend off the Z Max cars tour

1:32:15

will be back in action with a

1:32:18

pair of midweek race dates as the

1:32:20

pro late model division tackles the freshly

1:32:22

paved North Wiltsboro Speedway on Tuesday May

1:32:24

14th while the late model stocks will

1:32:26

do the same on Wednesday the 15th

1:32:28

as a part of all-star week at

1:32:30

North Wiltsboro Speedway. You can

1:32:33

join us at the track or catch

1:32:35

live a flag-to-flag coverage of the Z

1:32:37

Max cars tour presented by Sound Gear

1:32:39

on flow racing all season long. Until

1:32:42

next time I'm Blake McCandless and this

1:32:44

has been your Cars Tour Recap. Time

1:32:56

for the white flag. All right dropping Sunday

1:32:58

night was the teardown with Jeff Gluck and Jordan

1:33:01

Mianchi and those guys covered all the action from

1:33:03

it from Kansas and

1:33:05

probably if you're still looking for a detailed understanding

1:33:08

of NASCAR's processes that'd

1:33:10

be a good place to look at the

1:33:12

teardown with Jeff Gluck and Jordan Mianchi. Monday

1:33:15

actions detrimental with actually detrimental with

1:33:18

Denny Hamlin. Denny

1:33:20

talks about the race the car how it's

1:33:22

a great fit for Kansas all

1:33:24

the things he liked about that and how

1:33:26

he ended up seeing

1:33:28

the finish of that race play out in front of him. Door bumper

1:33:30

clear with Joe Edmonds. Those

1:33:34

guys had a great conversation

1:33:36

around how awesome again the race

1:33:38

at Kansas was and how it

1:33:41

differed from another race

1:33:43

that wasn't so great at Atlanta.

1:33:45

Those guys are so hard-headed. Plus

1:33:47

with Joel, God that show ran

1:33:49

all over the place. It was

1:33:51

fantastic. There's no telling what happened

1:33:53

there. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah they

1:33:55

are hard-headed. Dropping

1:33:59

tomorrow's speech. with Connor Daly and

1:34:01

Chase Holden. I'm on that show as their guest.

1:34:03

We talk a little bit about what my experience

1:34:05

with the Indy 500 has been. And

1:34:10

a lot of other things. Fun conversation with

1:34:12

those guys. So coming out tomorrow and

1:34:14

then Thursday, Dirty Modo with Steve LaTart. Gonna

1:34:17

be previewing the upcoming race this weekend, telling

1:34:20

you all the great bets and good values.

1:34:24

DJD Reloaded will be out on Thursday as

1:34:26

well, Carla and the team. We'll

1:34:29

have a lot to talk about. I imagine they may pull

1:34:32

from our episode of Dirty Air. I'm sure

1:34:34

there's something we said today. Who could they

1:34:37

call? I don't know. And

1:34:40

tomorrow, as I mentioned, Elton Sawyer's

1:34:42

our guest. Now Elton Sawyer, I

1:34:44

wanna tell you, I know everybody's

1:34:46

gonna be wanting me to ask Elton about

1:34:48

the current state of NASCAR and a lot

1:34:50

of things going on in the sport. I've

1:34:53

got short track package. What are we doing

1:34:55

to get that better? I've got some questions

1:34:57

like that on my mind. But this guy

1:34:59

grew up racing late model stock

1:35:02

cars. So I'm at

1:35:04

Langley, which I was going to as a

1:35:06

kid. My mom lived up in that area.

1:35:09

And he raced against a couple of people that I

1:35:11

watched or knew about. So

1:35:14

I wanna talk about his career. Also him

1:35:16

going into Xfinity Series and eventually the Cup

1:35:18

Series marrying Patti Mowese as well. And how

1:35:20

that was like having to race Patti for

1:35:23

so many years. So there's a lot of good

1:35:25

things to discuss with Elton and

1:35:28

hopefully we'll get the bottom of the direction we're gonna go

1:35:30

to fix this short track racing, which

1:35:33

we all want. Right? All

1:35:35

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