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Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season

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one, sixty three, Episode three of

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Joe Daly's Eye, the production

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of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast

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where we take a deep dive into America's shared

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consciousness. It's Wednesday,

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December ninety

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two days until January. My

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name is Jack O'Brien,

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A k A. Well, it's

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a marvelous night for a

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concert um a star

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who's a guide in your eyes. Fantabulous

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night to get COVID watching

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the ramblings of two older guys

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and all the geasers

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are sneezing and coughing

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on the boomers tacked in the front row.

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But baby, that'ss COVID.

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It was invented to

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enslave. Even though

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I'm Irish, white and rich,

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super rich, can

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I just spread some COVID

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germs with you, my

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fans. That is courtesy of Matt Dick

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at mcdick though, and

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I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,

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Mr Miles. Grandma

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got infected by the virus

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sitting in the church. But Christmas

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Eve, some may say there's no

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such thing as COVID, But as

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for me and Grandpa, we believe.

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And that's from Jimmins on the

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discord. I think somebody I

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think you're you're partner put

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it in there and said, okay, my my husband

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is a registered nurse and was just singing

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this in their head all day. I think this could

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work as an a k A. So that is a genesis

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of that one. I'm glad it stayed in his head and he

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wasn't saying that ship like out loud as he That

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would be from terrible excuse

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me another And I was just just

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as I was going through that extended

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that LP of a. It

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was just realizing how

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we kicked the show off with what

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is the closest the show gets to a

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Morning Zoo. Uh, it's

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just like one of the Morning Zoo comparody

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people can't sing. That's

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that's the innovation that we've brought to it.

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Anyways, we are thrilled to be

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joined in our third seat

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by the hilarious and talented

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Connor del Rio Air

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con Air the con Man s

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conob eight

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of worlds right here, baby, Oh

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yeah, hey,

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thank you. I wouldn't say you guys can't sing at all?

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Like publicly, I

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was into it. There were things that resembled

3:04

notes for both of us. Uh,

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Connor, what's what's new with you? Man? What's

3:11

happening? How are you making out in these

3:13

troubled times of hours? You

3:16

know, I'm making out pretty good. I'm not making

3:18

out. I'm quite lonely, but I've

3:22

I mean, I'm surrounded by towels right now in the closet.

3:25

Uh. And not just for this recording, just

3:27

in general, said

3:30

yeah, this is my temple spiritually

3:33

mentally you're surrounded by towels in a closet.

3:36

Metaphorical yeah, Uh,

3:38

most of Baby Hitchhiker's Gut of Galaxy

3:41

always have a towel. Uh. I

3:44

So in March, when things like first, I think

3:46

it was March, right, you can all remember back

3:48

in March fields, like when things first started

3:51

getting a little crazy. I actually so,

3:53

I was supposed to move into this new apartment on April

3:56

one in Los Angeles, and about

3:58

a week before moving in, I

4:01

get a message from my

4:03

friends saying, hey, my roommate

4:05

actually decided he's not going to move out anymore. And

4:07

I was like, I'm screwed, Like that's

4:09

come on, man, you can't do that. A week before I'm

4:12

like, my my roommate at my current

4:14

apartment already are already found a new roommate

4:16

for the apartment. Like I, I got

4:19

nowhere to go. So I called my buddy

4:21

and I was like, hey, could I just you know, crash

4:23

at your place for a couple of weeks or a month and I'll you

4:26

know, I'll pay for your A C bill

4:28

or whatever. I'll pay for half your rent just until

4:30

I find a place. He was like, yeah, no problem. And

4:32

then two weeks into staying there, NEWSOM

4:35

shuts down the state and then all of a sudden

4:38

everything starts shutting down, and

4:40

the guy who screwed me over, I'm actually like, hey,

4:42

thanks. You know, I didn't have to sign

4:44

a your lease. I wasn't stuck in a lease like

4:46

a lot of people have been unfortunately.

4:49

And uh. And so then I decided

4:51

to go to I called

4:53

my aunt and uncle who live out in bumble

4:56

fuck New Hampshire. I mean, there, their street,

4:58

their street name. Well I can't I shouldn't

5:00

give their address, their

5:03

zip code and zip code

5:05

and social start with their social security.

5:08

They they live in bubble

5:10

fuck New Hampshire. And I was like, well, that's probably the better

5:12

place to be right now with everything going on just

5:14

around nobody. And they

5:17

also had my dog because when I was

5:19

filming um the movie Half Brothers

5:21

Uh last year, it was in New Mexico for

5:24

three months, and I don't want to put them in boarding

5:26

and they love dogs, and so I

5:28

brought him there to New Hampshire and so I hung

5:30

out with them for what I thought

5:33

was gonna be like a month. I think we all were like, Oh,

5:35

this will be a month and then this Corona thing

5:37

will be gone, and but

5:40

we all didn't know what we were talking about. We're all confused.

5:43

I think a lot of us still are, but hung

5:46

out New Hampshire for three

5:48

months. And then I'm from Chicago,

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born and raised in Chicago, so I came to

5:52

Chicago after that, and I've been in Chicago

5:55

since June just kind of all

5:57

my family and closest friends are still in this city.

6:00

So this is where I've been hunkered

6:02

down and you know, trying

6:05

to find the positives and things. Yeah.

6:07

Yeah, the real sampling

6:10

of the different ways that the nation,

6:13

different parts of the nation shut down,

6:15

deal with with quarantine.

6:18

Any any any insight

6:21

to share how Chicago doing in particular,

6:24

Chicago is doing well in New Hampshire, you

6:26

know, my My aunt and uncle are very they're

6:28

scientists. They're all for mask wearing

6:30

all that stuff. And when I would have my mask on everywhere

6:32

i'd go, I'd get a lot of dirty looks and things at

6:35

gas stations wherever I was. And uh,

6:37

and then in Chicago it's you know, obviously completely

6:40

flipped. Um. People have been

6:42

really smart about it here. They supported

6:44

it. Um. I also got here in the beautiful

6:47

summer, so it was it was nice

6:49

because people, oh my gosh, yeah,

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that's one of the best cities in the world. To

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have a great summer, you have to have an awful winter.

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People don't. People don't take it for granted here.

7:00

But so it was kind of nice, man, Honestly,

7:02

Um, it was really beautiful

7:04

and people were outside. I was riding my bike every

7:06

day, so it wasn't it

7:08

wasn't sad. And um, you

7:11

know, cases were okay. And I have friends

7:13

who work in hospitals and they're always updating me saying,

7:15

no, it's fine. You know, it's not bad at

7:17

all. And March it was really bad. You know, the

7:19

people who don't like to believe in this

7:21

stuff just talk to like the people,

7:24

you know, those are the people I trust the most the ones who are actually

7:26

they're dealing with this. Yeah, and

7:28

it was hell for them healthcare workers

7:30

who are Yeah,

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it blows my mind. We were recently

7:35

talking about how the nation has

7:38

turned its lonely eyes to you

7:40

as a person in Chicago. All

7:43

the all the top shows in America are

7:46

Chicago Fire, Chicago Med,

7:49

Chicago, I don't know, Chicago

7:52

Bulls. Yeah, you saw

7:54

that documentary over the everything.

7:58

Chicago is having a mom um.

8:00

Yeah, the Chicago Wednesdays on NBC or

8:03

something. I think they have like a whole night dedicated to it.

8:05

Yeah, I don't watch them. You

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live it, man, We

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watch it to see how you're living. Thank

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you. All right, Connor,

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We're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

8:19

First, we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're

8:21

talking about. We're gonna check

8:24

in with the Florida

8:26

whistleblower who checked in with early

8:29

on in the pandemic

8:32

when she was fired for building

8:35

out data that was too responsive

8:37

to the facts. Her house

8:39

was just rated like a dissident in

8:42

a post apocalyptic movie. So we're talking about

8:44

that and how CBS

8:46

News is covering that mainstream media

8:49

nailing it once again. We're

8:51

gonna just do some COVID stuff. William

8:54

Shakespeare got vexed

8:57

in the UK. We'll talk about

8:59

that, um and how confidence

9:01

in the vaccine is increasing. We'll

9:04

talk about whether we're allowed to call this

9:06

damn thing a coup despite

9:09

the fact that it uh seems to be

9:11

more slapstick comedy. Uh, there's

9:14

been some interesting articles

9:16

about why it's still more

9:18

dangerous than you would think based on the comedy

9:21

of it all. We'll talk about the

9:23

fact that the former head of Israel's

9:27

NASA basically the NASA equivalent

9:29

in Israel, says Aliens

9:31

are already here kicking it with us, no big

9:33

deal. But before we get to any

9:35

of that, connor, what is something from your search

9:37

history that's revealing about who you are? All

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right? You know? I was like, should

9:43

I remove this? But I'm just gonna go for it. The last

9:45

thing was if you fell from a high building

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on top of a person, would you live? Huh

9:51

okaya fight what? Yes?

9:54

So if you fell from a high building on top

9:56

of a person, would you live? But I couldn't word

9:58

it in the way I was looking. What I wanted

10:00

to find was if you fell with a

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person. Let's say you fell with a person and

10:05

then you kind of were holding to them on

10:07

top they hit the ground

10:09

with the inertia, still kill you as well.

10:13

That's more my question, but I couldn't find the answer.

10:15

Is the person Batman? Because Dark Knight,

10:18

I think answers that when Rachel

10:20

and Batman right right,

10:24

the person is not Batman. Yeah, I

10:26

think you both die, then both

10:28

die. Yeah, unless they're really

10:31

uh you know, large and squishy.

10:34

I would imagine like a person

10:37

made of mattresses. Yeah, yeah,

10:40

I guess that's the only way. It would have to be the

10:42

only mattress,

10:46

some manner of beached whale. I feel

10:48

like you'd be okay, like one of those carcasses

10:50

that from back

10:53

in my crack days. We did a like action

10:56

movie myth busting

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article that I think we we were

11:02

specifically focused on the idea of

11:05

jumping off of the building into a

11:07

dumpster, because that seems to be the standard

11:12

small breaking awnings.

11:17

It seems too obvious that you would just tear

11:19

through and uh you know, create

11:22

modern art with a doorman and

11:24

your own inside. But

11:28

but even the even the um

11:31

the trash dumpster, it

11:34

seemed like people were saying that if it's

11:36

beyond I think it was. It was a

11:38

surprisingly low number of stories

11:40

that it's just deadly. It doesn't matter. You're gonna

11:43

because there's something specifically engineered

11:45

in there to uh slowly

11:47

break your fall. You're you're gonna get

11:50

turned into putting. What if you're holding

11:53

an umbrella well

11:56

as you descend? Yeah, exactly,

11:58

it's a prettier fall. Take

12:01

that science, I think. But also I think the dumpster.

12:03

I mean you have to like swish, your

12:05

body has to swish that. I

12:07

mean to be perfect, the

12:10

heel of the rim your spinal explode.

12:12

Yeah, you have to before you jump off,

12:14

you have to say lebron hopefully

12:18

into that because hold up your goose

12:20

neck shooting hand waiting

12:23

for it to go in. Still all

12:28

right, so you die? So okay,

12:33

yeah, wait what brought on that search? Exactly?

12:35

Like what were you really were

12:37

having a discussion and you just be like, God,

12:39

this dream may be real. I

12:42

was writing something, I want

12:44

to say, I was writing something and trying to figure out

12:47

if that would you want

12:49

to the science? Yeah, I want

12:51

to honor the science. Yeah, I mean I've also

12:53

like when I would take elevators. I don't know if everybody

12:56

thinks this way, but before

12:58

you hit, right before you hit it, do you

13:00

jump right before you hit and you like

13:02

do it on your side? You know, you go huh, but

13:05

I think the nurses still takes you. Yeah, it still

13:07

takes you down. I think so because your

13:09

jump is relative to the

13:12

ground. So just like you're hitting the ground

13:14

at the same speed that you

13:17

were traveling when you

13:19

jumped on a on a like stationary.

13:22

I think about this ship all the time, man, I

13:25

know, I get Yeah.

13:29

The other thing I think about

13:31

is like if you jump off of a building,

13:34

like running as fast as you can,

13:36

like how far out can you make it? Um?

13:39

Because yeah, that's just not

13:42

that far. Yeah, not that far, that

13:45

far, not that far. Um

13:48

Anyways, Uh, fucking

13:52

elevators, Man, you gotta watch out for those things. Uh.

13:55

At otis guys always trying to take you out.

13:58

What is something, uh that you think is underrated?

14:02

Uh? Something I think is underrated is

14:05

uh the Leftovers series?

14:07

This television series. For

14:10

some reason, it just went nobody

14:12

watched it. But that was like that's

14:14

probably at least in my opinion, and I

14:16

think a lot of critics and other people. I think it's

14:19

like one of the greatest written shows of all

14:21

time. Like I was just I

14:23

just talked to somebody last week who

14:26

was just swearing up and down. I think Jack,

14:28

you first started talking about it when we started watching

14:30

watch Men. I think because you were like, Yo, Lindeloff

14:33

in The Leftovers is

14:36

was like fire and and I think

14:39

my conception was season two was really

14:41

good, season one is whatever, Season two is like unbelievable.

14:45

And someone else came at me with the same things, like you

14:47

gotta funk with him in season two and through

14:49

like there there, it's next level. Yeah,

14:52

damn. It was interesting on the Watchman front

14:54

because he basically started

14:56

with season two of of like season

14:59

one of Lefto is the book,

15:01

and then season two they keep going

15:03

and like he gets to like write what happens

15:06

after Yeah, and that's

15:08

when it gets really really good. And

15:10

so with Watchman, he was just like, let's

15:12

just start here that Usually most

15:15

of the time it's the opposite, like once people

15:17

lose the source material, then all of a sudden it downgrades.

15:19

Yeah. Yeah, the Leftovers just

15:22

what your friends said. I mean, it's a heavy show.

15:24

It's a hard show, and I could see why a lot of people

15:26

maybe couldn't get in tune with it. Uh,

15:30

But that second season is like the

15:33

writing is just like a sweater that's

15:35

been threatening, Like I

15:37

see that's I love writing like that. I

15:39

think that makes sense because I

15:41

was a stupid Lost fanboy like

15:44

up until season three or four, and then like it

15:46

completely was like, oh I don't like it

15:48

too much, but I will stick

15:50

around to be upset. I

15:53

mean, especially that last season with straight disrespect

15:56

um. But yeah, and I think then but

15:58

like watching Watchman as well, where you go seemingly

16:00

from like this is all chaos and then you're

16:02

like, oh my god, it was the fucking pieces

16:05

where I was eating the puzzle pieces the

16:07

whole time I didn't know. That's one of one

16:09

of my favorite ways of like enjoying like

16:11

long form TV content. So yeah,

16:15

that's also one of those uh places

16:17

where we like got the duo,

16:20

we like gave j J Abrams all the credit,

16:23

and then Lindeloff was

16:25

back there actually like turning out

16:27

to be the dude who I don't know. I guess they're

16:29

both talented in their own ways.

16:32

But I feel like when when Lost first

16:34

hit, people are like Abrams He's

16:36

gonna be the future,

16:38

He's the next Spielberg. And then I feel

16:40

like, what about Carton Ques Brood

16:43

about that guy on last year? I'm just thinking

16:46

that, Like I was, like, I only remember J J. Abrams.

16:49

Yeah, um yeah, Lindeloff is the

16:51

band though. I think he's like one of the best show runners

16:53

and creators on TV right now. He's awesome.

16:56

I love the pilot of The

16:58

Leftovers as one of my favorite pilots

17:01

of any show. Um. Then the rest

17:03

of the season one wasn't crazy

17:06

about and didn't really watch it beyond

17:08

a certain point. But season two is incredible.

17:10

And then for some reason I never watched season three.

17:14

It's great. It's great. Season

17:16

two is definitely like the Pinnacle, I think. But but

17:18

season three is wonderful. I think it has a perfect

17:21

ending and just great acting, great

17:23

writing, great cinematic, great music, great

17:25

everything. It's just great, great, great great.

17:29

What is something you think is overrated?

17:32

Coconut water? Coconut everything? What

17:34

is up? What is up? Come

17:36

on? Man? I think I honestly,

17:39

I think coconut water tastes like like

17:42

severed decayne feet sitting

17:45

in a swamp filled with

17:47

trash, and like zombie

17:50

decomposed beavers swimming around

17:52

in it. Like, I don't understand

17:54

the love for coconut water, especially

17:56

in Los Angeles. That is like it's holly there,

18:00

coconut water, cocon I just don't like coconut

18:02

everything. The aftertaste is awful, It's

18:05

awful. Some coconut

18:08

waters I've liked because the ones that are kind of

18:10

taste good to me are the ones that kind of smell it. Their

18:12

tastes like old corn flake milk. Like

18:14

there's like a feeling of old cereal

18:17

milk to it. Is

18:19

that kind of coconut water. I drink and I'm like, oh, this

18:21

ship kind of tastes like an old bowl of cereal. And

18:23

then I'm like, why do I pay five bucks for this?

18:26

I don't need this funk with it? Like,

18:29

I really like it. I think it's very refreshing,

18:31

and even I admit that it tastes

18:34

like bad breath time,

18:37

Like when it's when it's warm, it just feels

18:40

like the inside of a mouth that hasn't been rushed

18:43

in days. Yeah,

18:48

yeah, that's the flavor of coconut.

18:50

Yeah. The the oil, I like the oil, you know,

18:52

good for my dog's coat, my skin.

18:55

You know, those things I think are undeniable.

18:58

But yeah, the water I just remember

19:01

to like, you know what, maybe

19:03

eight years ago is when it was like it

19:05

was started. It was perco Laton, like the coconut

19:08

water just trend and

19:10

to the point like where everyone in l

19:12

A like it almost felt obligatory that you went

19:15

to some at least one event that was sponsored

19:17

by a coconut water company. Uh.

19:20

And now I feel like we're I think,

19:22

I don't know, like what, I don't know what happened. I don't know who

19:24

this. I don't know as many hardcore coconut

19:26

water people as I used to, or it's just normalized

19:29

now right right, It's just they just

19:31

call it water, I guess in defense of

19:34

I am a big coconut

19:36

head from the day I was a

19:39

child. I remember like still

19:42

fucking with like the coconut

19:44

candies and a coconut or in a

19:47

like love

19:49

Mound's Love Almond joy Um and

19:52

coconut water. I

19:56

there's this anecdote that

19:58

I think is true that um,

20:01

during World War Two, when there

20:04

was a shortage of blood

20:06

plasma, they would use coconut

20:08

water because it's identical to

20:10

human blood plasma. And could

20:12

be safely injected directly into the bloodstream

20:15

according to body ecology. Uh

20:18

so don't do that, uh

20:20

needlessly. But that's why

20:22

I when I drink it, I have

20:25

the feeling of like, and

20:27

it's probably mostly mental, but I

20:29

have the feeling like, ah, this is going directly

20:31

into the old veins, making

20:36

that's like minimal cannibalism. The way

20:38

you phrase that you're just drinking

20:41

human when you can't drink human

20:43

blood is what I'm saying. You've gotta go just

20:45

go for the coconut. Ever since you and Peter Deal

20:47

have been on the outs here, you know, yeah,

20:55

yeah, yeah, I mean, like Lacroix.

20:57

Whenever I see somebody who has Lacroix coconut,

21:00

I'm just like, it was a hard

21:02

sell that. I mean, I

21:04

like, like, coconut cold is the only

21:06

way to I have a friend shoutout

21:08

Nurse Brittany, who loves coconut. Lacroix

21:11

drinks the ship. I've seen her drink at room

21:13

temperature, and I'm like, oh my god, sun

21:16

tanned lotion that sounds like coconut always

21:20

available. That flavor is always available

21:22

in the aisles. When you look at Lacroix I'm just saying

21:24

it's the one that's always there, Yeah, the one that's

21:26

vaguely brown on the can, which is always

21:28

an enticing flavor when you're reaching refreshing

21:31

seltzer. Yeah. I don't

21:33

funk with coconut flavored like

21:36

things. Just okay,

21:40

ump, except noah imitation.

21:43

I've always said that. All right, let's

21:46

take a quick break. We'll be right back, and

21:58

we're back. So there was

22:01

a news story yesterday

22:04

warning that Rebecca

22:06

Jones, who we've checked in with before

22:09

because she built that uh lit

22:11

Florida database or was in charge of

22:13

populating it, was key

22:16

instrumental in building out this Florida database

22:18

early on in the pandemic that

22:21

was just updating with data

22:23

and like making contact tracing

22:26

uh seemingly possible, and

22:29

then got fired because she was not like

22:31

telling the party line of not nothing to

22:34

see here. So her house was just

22:36

rated. The police

22:38

came in with guns drawn to take

22:41

her computers and phone

22:44

because they think she sent a like

22:46

hecked the system and sent an email

22:49

to people saying, like, you

22:52

know, encouraging other people

22:54

to be whistleblowers. She

22:57

claims it wasn't her, but regardless, it seems

23:00

that they would come in with guns drawn and point

23:02

them at her children. Uh,

23:06

like two and eleven are

23:11

Um. It just has a very like dissident

23:15

in a post apocalyptic movie

23:18

vibe to it, like where they're dealing

23:21

with the people who and without

23:23

any you know, it's a it's a Santist

23:26

joint. This, this is a de Santist joint,

23:28

brought to you by the the artist,

23:31

the director, Ron de Santis. But

23:33

it was weird because I was I was reading through

23:36

the coverage of this, and CBS

23:38

News took a a

23:40

strongly skeptical view

23:43

of Rebecca Jones. They were like Since

23:45

her firing, she has lit up social

23:47

media with post criticizing de Santis

23:49

and his state agencies. For months,

23:52

she has tried to promote herself as a victim

23:54

who was fired for telling the truth, although

23:57

there is no evidence that supports her

23:59

claim, which is

24:01

just I think a good reminder that

24:04

the mainstream media is in the business of

24:06

like gaining access to people

24:09

in power and exchange for you

24:11

know, favorable coverage and posing

24:13

up to the people in the know, um,

24:16

and that their point of view is irrevocably

24:20

warped by you know and

24:22

tilted in favor of the people

24:25

with access and power. Just seemed

24:27

really disgraceful that that was like their

24:30

point of view going into this thing where a

24:33

person who you know, has

24:35

a social media platform is

24:38

going up against the fucking

24:40

government and they're pulling guns on

24:42

her and her family. They're like, yeah, Okay,

24:46

she's been hella thirsty on social media's

24:50

it's like, what are you this? The

24:52

wild thing to me about her is too when

24:54

they when they say there's no evidence that like, you

24:56

know, this could be retribute or whatever they say, there's

24:58

no evidence that supports her claims that she was like a victim

25:01

who was fired for telling the truth. I mean, I'm

25:03

pretty sure she has documentation

25:06

around the idea that they were saying, we need

25:08

the numbers to look a certain way, even

25:10

if they don't, so we don't have to lock

25:12

down. Like the official party line is

25:14

that she was insubordinate, Like it's

25:18

like what we're talking about, and

25:22

yeah, the gun thing is so unnecessary.

25:24

Like the police like sort of pushed back on

25:26

the idea that they did drug guns. Cut to her

25:29

video that shows them with guns

25:31

in hand the

25:34

stairs, and then yeah, the

25:37

Miami Herald article was like, there's no

25:39

evidence from the video that says that

25:42

uh authorities pointed weapons

25:44

at anyone in Jones's home. What the

25:46

funk are you talking about? So they were just like vaguely

25:49

pointing them up the stairs where

25:51

her and her kids were. But see

25:54

they put in new audio that sounded like

25:56

police were there and saying get your hands up whatever.

25:59

And really it was like a part the Season party sort

26:01

of scene where they were like, hey, if you're in the building,

26:03

get your guns up, and they were kind of doing

26:05

that thing. And see that was a total

26:07

of deep fake video that they did on there.

26:10

But it's just all it's all trash. I mean,

26:12

the even like the way that system

26:14

is set up. I was reading that that whole COVID

26:16

like thing that she had set up that's used

26:18

by the state. They used the

26:21

same user name and password for

26:23

the entire thing. So even if she

26:26

was booted out, like they didn't even change

26:28

the information after Like the I T security

26:31

is absolutely laughable. But

26:34

then they want to act like, oh, these people are hacking

26:36

in or like using this information or whatever. It's

26:39

like this is all like it's such a clear

26:41

cut case of harassment. Um,

26:44

And I mean, I don't know I mean, we don't know if she

26:46

left that message. It doesn't seem like that's

26:49

the most effective way to get your point

26:51

across. If you know, you're a data

26:53

scientist, but you

26:55

know that's that's that's where we're at right now. Then

26:57

De Santis has made his state like like

27:00

intentionally hostile to people

27:03

who are either exposing

27:05

the truth, standing for the truth, or

27:07

in opposition to any kind of

27:10

discrimination. So this, this,

27:12

this all seems on brand for the state.

27:14

Yeah, and it's terrifying. I mean it's

27:17

terrifying. You're right, it's on brand. But I just

27:19

don't understand, Like, if okay, you're you

27:22

want to get a cell phone, you want to get a computer, why

27:24

do you have to even start with the

27:26

raid of the house. Why does that have

27:28

to be the start. Why can't you have

27:31

a megaphone outside? Like, if you're gonna

27:33

do this this little mafio so thing that they're

27:35

pulling off, why not have everybody stake

27:37

come outside. Everybody comes outside. You don't

27:40

have to have your guns drawn, especially since there's children.

27:42

They they if they know where she lives and

27:44

they know all this information about her, they know she has children,

27:46

they know what age, they are you know, tried

27:49

to do and they said she ignored them. The

27:52

cow minutes, Yeah, the cops knocked

27:54

on her door and she was

27:57

like, Okay, I'm gonna get arrested, so

27:59

I should get dressed and like, you

28:01

know, because these are COVID times,

28:04

not everybody is like camera ready

28:06

the second the cops decide to randomly

28:09

make a house call. So and

28:11

during this yeah,

28:13

and then during those twenty minutes, uh,

28:16

they took that as her you

28:18

know, the police were picturing her

28:20

in their barricaded with weapons

28:23

instead of just like putting you

28:25

know, getting her hair ready

28:28

for rest or whatever the fuck.

28:31

Um. Anyways, meanwhile,

28:34

just another story about who

28:37

de Santis has put on his actual

28:40

uh you know, data analysis

28:42

COVID team. Uh is a

28:44

young man, not a young man, old

28:47

man by the name of Kyle Lamb, forty

28:50

year old who is a sports blogger spent

28:52

several years writing about Ohio State University

28:56

for Ohio State Universe. I apologize

28:59

that is my bad. Um.

29:02

I remember being so confused on Monday night football.

29:04

I'm like, why the fund do they all have that energy for

29:06

the university? Does

29:11

that go back to like a feud with

29:14

oh you or something where like Ohio

29:16

University was like claiming they were Ohio

29:19

University the state anyways.

29:22

Uh, anyway back to the

29:25

cluster. So

29:28

Kyle Lamb has then recently

29:30

gained a Twitter following for doing

29:33

the easiest thing to get yourself

29:35

Twitter following and amplifying conspiracy

29:37

theories about COVID nineteen uh,

29:39

including his belief that masks do not

29:42

prevent the virus from spreading and

29:44

that the pandemic might be part of a bio

29:46

war. And De Santis

29:49

brought him on as a yeah,

29:52

as a member of his team to replace

29:54

you know, I mean, yeah, these are all attempts

29:56

that legitimizing this kind of outlandish

29:59

talk of saying, well this is my expert,

30:02

okay, and I'm ordaining them as being

30:04

on my panel as governor. That now

30:06

suddenly people be like, well, I don't know why they if

30:08

this guy is on the governor's

30:11

panel, Like maybe we do need to think about

30:13

this whole bio war nonsense. It's

30:15

fucked up, Like it's completely

30:18

you know that That's why everyone's faith

30:20

in or in science and medicine is like,

30:22

you know, vacillating between like uh

30:25

faith and like what the fun is going on and

30:28

it's his. Uh, I feel like it's his. It's

30:31

the santisist way of just trying to throw as

30:33

much you know, um, like

30:36

garbage in the middle of the floor that people

30:38

have to clean up before getting to him. Flood

30:40

the you know, flood the zone with ship is

30:43

ship before they can blame me and take me out.

30:46

You know. It's that is a

30:48

bet. That's something from his playbook.

30:51

It's uh, it's terrifying. Man's

30:53

so it's so awful, Like that's why I'll I

30:55

will always I'll always go with

30:58

the scientists. I mean, luckily, you know I

31:00

had There's there's quite a few in my family.

31:03

Shout out to my cousin Elliott Stanford

31:05

working at a lab making masks

31:07

for people around the world out of old Scoopa

31:10

mass And I mean she's been working since March

31:12

Man Cameron growing

31:14

weed. We

31:18

need that too, we need that too. Um.

31:21

But yeah, that's uh. I've heard he's converting

31:24

some scuba masks as well. Is that Yeah,

31:27

he is just cut some ship

31:29

to like the wildest dad rig you've ever

31:31

seen. There

31:33

were some scholars in my family. I did like

31:36

two weeks of community college and was like it's

31:38

not for me and UH and left.

31:41

You know, all my community college students out there, they'll keep

31:43

going. Man, get to get to get

31:45

to get to get it. Uh. Let's talk

31:47

about, um, some ideas for

31:49

police reform that are being put forward

31:52

in California. There's a bill being discussed

31:55

that is kind of incrementalist

32:00

the way that basically all of the

32:02

ideas for police reform that are endorsed

32:04

by uh the police

32:07

are attend to be. But

32:10

yeah, this one is basically saying

32:12

that becoming a cop should require

32:15

you to have a bachelor's degree and

32:17

be twenty five years old, just based

32:20

on statistics about what police

32:22

officers with those attributes, how

32:25

violent they are versus otherwise.

32:28

Yeah, the legislator who's putting it, who's

32:30

who wrote the bill, UH, is

32:33

referring to like this study in twos ten

32:35

that that basically says that college

32:38

educated officers typically typically

32:41

typically use less force often

32:45

and fewer complaints filed against

32:47

them. Now, okay, that's a good thing

32:49

to identify that group of people. UM,

32:52

but this is you know, like we're

32:54

saying this is incremental change when

32:57

we know what the real issues are. But

32:59

you know, this isn't the issue here.

33:01

And like, the reason this bill is coming out isn't

33:03

because we have a problem with you know, not

33:06

enough cops who studied abroad in Bartarlona.

33:09

You know, we have fucking real issues

33:11

here. This is an issue within policing

33:14

that is anti black, anti poor,

33:16

anti fucking everything. Uh.

33:18

And they're protected by powerful unions

33:21

that can keep any kind of real, meaningful

33:23

like legal repercussions from ever you know,

33:26

getting close to them, as well as like the

33:28

financial consequences via

33:30

these like ridiculous retirement plans

33:33

a lot of these people have where it's like, dude, you get fired

33:35

and then you're fucking set, like no matter what, even

33:37

if you straight to murder somebody twice.

33:40

Uh. And this is just you know, these

33:42

are the kinds of things that you'd wish the

33:44

legislators were actually looking at, because

33:47

this is a good way of legislator

33:49

being like, well, this is this

33:51

is an improvement. Yes, that would be great

33:53

because right now you just need to be I think like

33:56

eighteen, or have an equivalent like eighteen

33:58

with an equivalent in a high school diploma to

34:00

begin your training, and it can be I think twenty.

34:02

If you're in the California Highway patrol. But

34:05

yes, this is that's a good way to try and

34:07

weed out other people. But it's really

34:10

a disingenuous attempt at real reform,

34:13

and we just need to look at how much

34:15

money is going to these departments

34:17

and actually just having this conversation

34:20

about reinvesting in communities,

34:22

because the perception in law enforcement in this country

34:25

is, well, people commit crime because

34:27

they're black, rather than seeing

34:29

the full picture of how black and brown

34:32

Americans have been abandoned. And we're

34:34

merely just branding this failure of governance

34:36

as crime. You know, it's not, oh, it's

34:38

crime. It's not we've failed these people. They

34:41

have no recourse. They're so desperate

34:43

that they commit crime. People commit crimes

34:45

out of desperation. You know, nine times out

34:47

of ten. There are some people who just do it for the jollies.

34:49

But let's be real, like a lot of this is about survival.

34:52

Like you deal drugs not because you've got to kick out

34:54

of dealing drugs. You do it because that's the only employment

34:56

available to you that has the

34:58

kind of income that are looking for. Unfortunately,

35:01

or things other things like that. Gang people don't want to

35:03

be in gangs. Like this is all these are all

35:06

you know, fact, these are all byproducts of this failure.

35:09

Um. And I just want to also point out that this

35:11

study that the legislator uh

35:13

is using to say like, oh yeah look check this out,

35:17

like you know, people who have been to France and college,

35:19

you know, murder less. Uh. It was

35:21

done by the National Police Foundation, which

35:24

I just want to point out that they love

35:27

community policing like solutions,

35:29

and they love putting forward

35:32

the broken window policing strategy,

35:34

which is totally fucked up and completely

35:37

wrong and backwards and biased.

35:40

So it's already like you know, it's

35:42

we're we have an imperfect thing, drawing

35:44

from an imperfect place, trying to you

35:47

know, be presented as you know, meaningful

35:49

change. Uh. So it's just

35:51

I think, just well, we will continue

35:53

to see things like this that look good

35:56

and are good, but I think are avoiding

35:58

what all the outcries were from the public

36:01

over this last year, over what is necessary

36:03

to change the relationship between the community

36:05

and law enforcement. Yeah yeah,

36:08

I mean, I you know, I grew up in in the city

36:10

of Chicago. What's Chicago public

36:12

schools? Very diverse schools

36:14

and all that, and I I can't tell

36:16

you enough. I mean, there are people who

36:19

I've met and who I've known a little and they're

36:21

like, oh, I'm becoming a cop. In my head, I'm like, they're

36:24

letting you become a cop, right,

36:26

They're they're allowing, and I'm like, I'm like what,

36:28

And so I don't. It's like there's so much about

36:30

character and personality that

36:32

matters, I think with becoming a cop

36:35

that I don't know what kind of thing

36:38

you could create to figure that out of how

36:40

you get the best character and

36:42

personality to become a cop, because it's it's

36:45

it's it's a humanity job. It's dealing with people.

36:47

It's having empathy for people, Like you

36:49

need to have empathy for people. You need to want

36:51

to work for people. I think even

36:54

to your point about like the character that of

36:56

you know, of the kinds of officers that

36:58

need to be out there on street is

37:01

I think you start that by just having like reinforcing

37:04

the fucking rules so the

37:06

ones who don't act with humanity

37:09

in mind are quickly just booted

37:11

the funk out and it's made known

37:13

to people. It's like, yo, yea, this isn't the place,

37:16

like if you want to funk around and do that

37:19

go to Florida or whatever fucking

37:21

other you know, police department. But I think for police

37:23

departments this whole idea of like, well, a couple of

37:25

bad apples or whatever. It's like, well, then tossed

37:28

out all the fucking bad apples then and

37:31

then see what you're left with and then figure out what

37:33

the real problem is. But they're like, there's no even

37:35

sort of the energy for that isn't even there.

37:38

So we get all these sort of like half measures

37:40

that have the like on paper are

37:42

police reforms. But we

37:45

are we are well, and we are way past

37:48

the time for these small things like those

37:50

things should happen sixty years ago if

37:52

you want to like start that little incremental process.

37:54

But now we're looking at the situation and we

37:57

need, you know, we need to extinguish. Yeah,

38:02

I mean, the more you know

38:04

about history, like that's that seems to

38:06

be something that like

38:09

the like, it's

38:11

not just that black communities

38:13

are abandoned, it's that they're actively

38:15

imprisoned through redlining in

38:18

communities where the

38:21

you know, official government

38:24

policy is to deprive

38:26

them of resources and then they're

38:29

only interaction

38:31

with the state. Like that ten

38:34

year old who's riding by on his bike. Is only interaction

38:36

with the state is violent racist

38:38

police, Like it's it's

38:41

not a problem that can be addressed

38:43

through incremental change. All

38:45

right, let's talk about the pandemic.

38:49

What's going on with the vaccines? The UK

38:52

started giving out the vaccines and we

38:54

get to see people get yeah,

38:59

there's it's sick, dude, we're

39:01

getting vaxed. So where

39:06

did they specifically choose someone named William

39:08

Shakespeare, like for for

39:11

the purposes of just like

39:13

good good marketing. They're like, guys,

39:15

Bill Shakespeare is getting the vaccine, y'all,

39:18

come on, UK, where are you at it?

39:21

Just you know, it began with like some elderly

39:23

people and yes, they're just happened

39:25

to be this eight year old man legal

39:28

name William Shakespeare who

39:30

got vaccinated on Tuesday. And

39:33

I think that's been getting a lot of attention.

39:35

I think, ay, just this story because like

39:38

we're seeing like massive rollout

39:40

of immunization programs happening, and

39:42

like that's I think I think that most like oh fuck,

39:45

hope on some level please now soon.

39:48

Um So because of that, they're

39:50

getting a little more attention here. And then the story

39:52

within this area that got the like the first

39:54

rollout of vaccines in the UK, you got an old guy named

39:57

Bill Shakespeare. The literally the

39:59

first person and or technically the person who

40:01

first got it is a ninety year old this nine year

40:03

old woman. But I think Bill Shakespeare is just

40:06

getting the shine because of the name um

40:08

in the in the difference in photos like the

40:10

photo of I posted in the dock of like

40:12

Bill Shakespeare. He's very like stoic

40:15

and he's like, I'm getting vaccinated.

40:17

And the woman who is actually the first

40:20

person to get it, she looks like god

40:23

funk at all. Like her energy is

40:25

like she's wearing a mask. She's got

40:27

like a cheery Christmas shirt on,

40:29

but her face is like says, this

40:32

is such a fucked up year, even though I'm

40:34

getting vaccinated. I feel like her image

40:36

really sums up like where people are where

40:38

it's like, yeah, this good things happening, I

40:40

guess, but like I'm I'm fucked inside

40:43

from the last nine months. Also

40:45

such a perfect encapsulation

40:49

of what we see with the old

40:52

white guy, or just the white guy not wearing a mask.

40:54

Uh, he's just like why would I of course, yeah,

40:58

but I'm vaccinated right, Um

41:03

Yeah, I mean it's nice to see that this

41:06

happening. Like it's weird how I'm getting a

41:08

secondary high right

41:10

yo. Yo, the vaccine, Yo, they're getting it over

41:12

there. But I don't know if like we're after

41:15

hearing that Trump turned down for like the

41:17

opportunity to buy more vaccines from

41:19

Fiser, I'm like, oh fuck, so

41:22

that was over the summer before we knew.

41:24

It was like, hey, things are promising,

41:26

let's buy some Let's buy some of these

41:29

these vaccines. And he was like, nah,

41:33

yeah, well I don't think it's fiscal restraint more

41:35

than his just like I don't know if I who gives this ship. It's

41:37

it's it's not real, but yeah, this is.

41:39

But seeing this happen, I think

41:42

it should bring great joy to at

41:44

least the people of the UK and then

41:46

whenever the funk it happens in the US. There

41:48

was a super producer and sent around

41:50

like a link to be like figure out your

41:53

place in line for the COVID vaccine in

41:55

America, like based on like the county you

41:57

live in, in your age, and I'm it's

42:00

it's gonna be a while before I get to

42:02

the top of that list. Yeah, but you're right though, it is

42:04

nice. It is that. Uh. I think

42:06

it's that light at the end of the tunnel. I think some

42:08

people are starting to think that tunnels like really

42:11

short. I'm like, no, we still got a ways to go, you

42:13

know, but there is one from the darkness to light.

42:16

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's

42:19

not like yo, I can I can make out

42:21

a tree in the tunnel's mouth. It's like it's

42:25

a pinhole. Yeah, a

42:27

couple of times. Yeah, we got Yeah. I mean

42:30

we're seeing just steady increases

42:33

in the number of people who feel,

42:36

you know, willing to get vaccinated, who

42:39

are going to be who think they'll be

42:41

willing to get vaccinated. Uh. The

42:44

numbers were very discouraging earlier

42:47

in the vaccine or in the pandemic

42:49

there I forget. I think back

42:51

in September it was about fifty percent of Americans

42:54

said they were down to get the vaccine,

42:57

and now that numbers up to sixty three. Uh

43:00

so, yeah, it makes

43:02

a difference when I wonder how much

43:04

of it has to do with Trump

43:07

losing two that, like in

43:09

general, they're like, well, if you're asking me in

43:12

this administration in this context,

43:14

I'm not really but the

43:16

number started going up in October. So

43:19

I don't. It seems like it's a It could

43:21

be many different things. But in terms

43:23

of Democrats, they said SI

43:26

said they would be open

43:28

to it in September and now it's

43:30

at seventy. UM.

43:33

When it comes to independence, just over

43:35

sixty of Independence say they would

43:37

be willing to get it, and fifty

43:40

percent of Republicans reported that they

43:42

were willing to be vaccinated and

43:44

that hasn't changed. So

43:47

I don't like if Trump is,

43:49

I don't. I'm trying to figure out what their logic is

43:52

that if it was Trump's they

43:54

were still at fifty because all

43:56

of the misinformation has themselves fucked up

43:58

that even if it was their d your leader being

44:00

like, here's your vaccine, they're still like, I

44:04

don't know. Meanwhile, there's movement

44:06

on the other side being like yes, please,

44:08

like we need health, we need safety. I

44:12

think wondering too, Sorry, keep going. I

44:14

was just I think I think his leadership has

44:16

just been so like this seems pretty

44:19

intuitive to me that that as

44:22

you know, the person who's in

44:24

charge, or as there's even light at the end of the

44:27

tunnel, as like the media seemed

44:29

to come around to the fact that he was losing

44:31

the election, like I feel

44:33

like and as the you

44:36

know, vaccine and the pandemic

44:38

response got dissociated

44:40

from his administration,

44:43

but I mean his his leadership

44:45

has been you know, undeniably

44:48

bad. So like the idea when

44:51

when you're at first associating it with a

44:53

world in which he is the person

44:56

who is like leading the charge

44:58

versus like a world where he might not

45:00

be, I can fully understand

45:03

that that shift. Hmm.

45:07

I wonder too though, like this is maybe this is

45:09

like an off ramp from the main

45:12

topic. But this whole like disinformation

45:14

thing is So did you guys read the talking

45:16

to strangers by any chance? But

45:19

Gladwell, there

45:21

was this, uh, there's this interesting

45:23

portion of the book that talks about like that

45:26

outlier, like everybody in society can say,

45:29

let's you know, forty years ago,

45:31

let's say of

45:33

people say yeah, I'd take a vaccine. I'm all

45:36

four vaccine, that's the science. I support it. And

45:38

then you have one person who's like, now

45:40

I'm going to question this a little bit. I'm gonna go on

45:42

the other side of it. You know, what, what can does

45:45

a vaccine due to your body? Do we know the long term effects?

45:47

All these things right, and you have that one person, that outlier,

45:49

and he talks about how it's always important to have,

45:52

you know, at least one person who kind of goes

45:54

against the majority to kind of just question

45:57

things right. But then he talks about

45:59

what happens if everybody

46:01

starts to become that kind of outlier,

46:04

idealist and personality who's questioning

46:07

everything, you don't you have a society that can't

46:09

function because everybody's

46:11

just like going off the walls

46:13

with their ideas and what they believe in. And I

46:15

feel like that's kind of what he talked about is

46:18

kind of what's been happening

46:20

with social media and this mass amount of disinformation

46:23

and people not people

46:25

find it hard to I think, believe anything at

46:27

this point, and I think some people have a

46:30

hard time believing Bolsa either side

46:32

of the yell. Then you have people like Jake

46:34

Paul who then are like, yeah, of news

46:37

is fake. Like no matter who you're getting here from, you're

46:39

like, oh wow, I'm

46:42

glad you have the eye for that two of

46:44

real news. And it's twenty million

46:46

people right who follow this guy and and

46:49

and listen to that platform, which just scary.

46:52

So it's like is this Are we on this like indefinite

46:54

path of disinformation? How do we does this?

46:57

Does this cease to exist as this administration

47:00

slowly becomes a ghost. And I

47:03

think I'll always just point to the fact that, like, until

47:05

we take care of people's needs, they're

47:07

gonna be willing to believe whatever explanation

47:10

someone just slightly a few ticks smarter

47:12

than them is going to offer them. Um. And

47:14

I don't think like even if we do

47:16

get a hold of it, like if you don't get people

47:18

like like to work or like the ability

47:21

to support their families or to have

47:23

a life and to have health care

47:25

or an education, I think like

47:27

that's probably gonna be the biggest tool to melt

47:30

away like the you know, that sort of mentality

47:32

of being so contrarian to like, you

47:35

know, or feed these fires of misinformation.

47:38

Um. But yeah, I don't know, it's it's I think we're

47:40

experiencing like we're just at the beginning of

47:42

it, Like we're just at that stage where everyone's

47:44

like, I think it's a problem. Yeah,

47:47

and that's where we're a yeah,

47:51

yeah, crazy man. The And

47:54

I think also we need to figure out what

47:57

we're going to do with regards

47:59

to social media idea and how that is

48:01

policed, but at all I don't

48:04

know a good solution to that, because

48:07

they're good value, valuable

48:09

things that it brings in also

48:12

just nightmarish what happens if you have

48:14

no replies, no arties, no likes

48:17

on Twitter. Well, it's also

48:19

like the level of control

48:22

that we're asking the social media networks

48:25

to exercise is not when

48:28

you look at like the story

48:30

about how the Facebook spreading

48:33

misinformation that led to like

48:35

race riots that killed thousands

48:38

of people, Like the that

48:40

was a story that was on their radar, and

48:42

they just didn't do the

48:44

necessary things to like monitor

48:47

they're not they didn't create like

48:49

the team that was necessary. It's

48:52

just there's no incentive. So I

48:54

guess like one answer would

48:56

be that like just

48:58

trying would be a good first

49:00

step, because we haven't even tried. It has just been

49:02

a complete fucking free for all

49:05

in terms of like letting these uh

49:08

networks operators just ad

49:10

networks who are only there

49:12

to monetize the interactions

49:14

and have no actual responsibilities.

49:18

All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be

49:21

right back, and

49:32

we're back. What one thing

49:34

that I've noticed is there's been a flurry

49:36

of articles. We've been talking on the show for a while

49:38

now about how the it's

49:41

hard to take the

49:44

Trump administration, uh,

49:46

their attempt at, you know, overturning

49:49

the election seriously because of just how

49:52

surface level farcical it

49:55

is um at every turn. Um.

49:57

But there does seem to be you know, we like

50:01

when you describe in broad and general

50:03

terms what they're trying to do, it's

50:07

actually very scary. So we were kind of

50:09

wrestling with that over the past couple of weeks, and the

50:11

mainstream media seems to be at

50:13

least having the conversation about how

50:15

to you know, take

50:18

some of the stuff seriously. Hopefully

50:21

not too late that they're having this conversation,

50:24

but like there there's a bunch of articles on whether

50:26

it can be called a coup or not because

50:29

it's so incompetent, Like is does

50:32

it belong in that category

50:35

of attempts that overthrown government. I

50:37

don't think style treatment of

50:40

talking about this is going to help. It's like, can

50:42

he even call it a coup? Like really,

50:44

you know, like it's like, um, let's

50:47

not laugh at like the smoldering

50:49

fire in the corner. Yeah, I

50:51

mean, so recently,

50:54

yesterday, the Arizona Republican

50:56

Party at easy gop

50:59

so, the actual you know Twitter handle

51:01

of the Arizona Republican Party asked

51:04

their followers if they were willing to die

51:06

for the cause of stopping

51:08

the steel in a retweet

51:11

of an anti Semitic right wing extremist

51:14

who tweeted, I am

51:16

willing to give my life for this fight,

51:19

and there's on a Republican Party retweet and said

51:21

he is are you? Um

51:24

is the gatorad commercial? Yeah, exac

51:27

like what um

51:32

So? They took that down when it started

51:35

getting some backlash. Uh. And then

51:38

immediately after posted a tweet that was a

51:40

picture from the movie

51:42

Rambo with Rambo pointing

51:44

an arrow point blank at somebody's

51:47

like face, like the tip of the arrows in

51:50

the person's face and he's pulling it back, getting

51:52

ready to just do a point blank headshot

51:54

with an arrow, bow and arrow and says

51:57

uh. And the tweet is in quotes,

52:00

this is what we do who we are live

52:02

for nothing or die for something American

52:04

flag again from the official

52:06

Arizona Republican Party. Um, this is

52:09

how like extremist groups also recruit

52:11

martyrs like people. It's the same

52:13

language of like die for

52:16

this, you down to die for this,

52:18

and I mean i'd

52:20

luckily, like I mean somewhat

52:22

luckily, Like a lot of other Republicans

52:25

are pushing back on these tweets, which is what when

52:27

they were getting ratio, They're like, Okay, maybe a bad

52:29

idea, but nonetheless that's still

52:32

creating this environment still exists. Like people

52:34

showed up to the Michigan Secretary of State's house.

52:36

Yeah, I mean protesting on this stop

52:39

the steel nonsense with weapons while

52:43

she was trying to decorate her house for

52:45

Christmas, or a real

52:48

war on Christmas moment. Uh, will

52:51

not get covered by Fox, i'd

52:53

imagine. So just on a

52:56

longer term and like more circumspect

52:59

view, you know, I've also seen the

53:01

response even from like people who

53:04

I think are smart on the left, who it

53:06

just seems like from a posturing perspective,

53:09

don't want to seem like they're the boy

53:11

who cried Wolf, or alternately

53:14

just want to seem like cool enough and

53:17

like worldly enough to be like this isn't

53:19

a coup. You think this is a coup, This is nothing

53:21

like are idiots? You should

53:23

have studied Barcelona in me right

53:27

stuff? Yeah, but this

53:29

writer in the Atlantic

53:32

who's a popular, really

53:34

talented academic name named zep

53:37

tufik Chi wrote,

53:39

So, she grew up in uh Turkey,

53:43

and she writes about how

53:47

basically like if you are from a place

53:49

where coups are common,

53:52

Um, this definitely feels

53:54

like a coup, and the question

53:57

of whether it should be called a coup seems

54:00

somewhat silly and beside the point.

54:02

And it's more important to just

54:05

talk about in specific

54:07

terms, like what is actually

54:09

happening, because these are all

54:12

norms that are being toppled that make

54:15

it so that you can do

54:17

a coup with impunity. Like just because

54:20

this particular time is incompetent

54:22

um, it does not mean that we

54:26

should be

54:28

ignoring. Like at one point

54:30

she uh just

54:32

lays out all the things that are happening. Um,

54:36

and you know, viewed from the

54:38

perspective of someone who grew up at the

54:40

whims of you know, five major

54:43

coups throughout her lifetime, pants

54:45

a pretty stark picture like that. The president

54:48

has repeatedly and baselessly claimed the election

54:50

was stolen and continues to do so

54:52

daily, effectively charging the election officers

54:55

around the country being involved in a dangerous

54:57

conspiracy. The president is key. Allies have repeated

55:00

really called for Republican state legislators

55:02

to steal the election for him. The president,

55:05

who has the power to appoint judges, is

55:07

asking for Supreme Court nominees

55:09

to UH or Supreme Court to

55:12

steal the election for him UH

55:15

and has asked the court to throw out valid

55:18

votes. Right after the election,

55:20

a legal advisor to the president stated, we're

55:22

waiting for the Supreme Court to do

55:25

something and hopefully Amy Comy Barrett

55:27

will come through. High

55:29

profile allies of his are physically

55:32

intimidating George's Republican government

55:35

or governor for backing

55:37

the actual vote count, amplified

55:40

messages that call for people to fight back hard,

55:42

and then his election lawyer said that the entire

55:44

election and all swing states

55:47

should be overturned, like it's just yeah,

55:50

it's all there, yeah, And then they

55:53

said that Christopher Crebs uh

55:56

should should be shot at dawn,

55:59

like that's all the

56:01

sort of thing that you would have in a coup. It's

56:04

just that because the

56:06

president didn't do the planning

56:09

necessary and the political

56:11

maneuvering necessary, he isn't

56:14

capable of doing it like his team. They're saying

56:16

like Basically, the incompetence of the whole coup

56:19

is why people aren't stating that this

56:21

is a coup. It's like this, it's like that's

56:23

it's like you know, fucking crocodile Dundee

56:26

ship where by trying to rob you with a

56:28

knife and you're like, that's not a

56:30

knife v season knife and

56:32

you're like you're you're laughing off. You're the

56:34

transgressor because the attempt is so whacked

56:37

and you're like, I'm gonna call the cops on that idiot

56:39

that would and it's like the mentality

56:42

when it's like, well, hold on, that wasn't attempted robbery,

56:45

So really, if we won't put this on paper, this

56:48

motherfucker attempted to rob you. To

56:50

be clear, that is not an advisable way to deal

56:52

with a mugging because they could

56:55

just go and get a gun, right,

56:57

but either way, But to that point is maybe

56:59

some other goon saw them be like okay, so you can't

57:01

stick them up with that knife. Okay, so I

57:04

need something bigger than that knife, and you're setting

57:06

it like again, were the real

57:08

thing here is also in her article is

57:10

talking about you know, treat I think

57:12

what was that I put the quote at the bottom she

57:15

like, this is your first coup. If you want to be sure

57:17

that it's your last, exactly like

57:20

treat this like a robbery and

57:22

fucking golf and and and bring

57:24

the law, bring them to just like you can't

57:26

do this ship. And I think that's why there's this other

57:28

debate that's also brewing, is

57:31

what is Joe Biden going to do when

57:33

he becomes the president because this like

57:35

hand holdie, well, we don't want to

57:37

like we want to heal the country. That's

57:40

not healing my man. That is not going to be

57:42

healing That is saying yo, y'all can get away

57:44

with this ship if you do it slicker, and

57:47

that is a terror, like you have to we

57:49

have to actually put an end to it by actually

57:52

exercising or whatever, using the

57:54

legal system, justice system to

57:57

try and hold these people to account. But I

58:00

I seriously doubt that that would ever

58:02

happen because you know, Democrats are

58:04

the party of like where

58:06

this is a smoke free environment, even if the smoke is

58:08

necessary for the good of the country and

58:10

the you know, she talks about how one

58:13

of the coups that overthrew

58:15

her government and that was very dangerous

58:17

and led to hundreds of

58:19

people being tortured to death. Was

58:23

like basically the remnants or the aftershock

58:26

of an original coup that was laughed

58:29

out of the building, like like this

58:31

one is being like it was not seen as serious.

58:34

And she also points to

58:37

Napoleon Bonaparte, the third Napoleon

58:40

bonapartes I guess grandson like

58:43

did did a coup that was like

58:45

called beyond comedy by uh

58:48

the French press, and then eventually like

58:50

ten years later overthrew the government

58:52

and remade it in his image

58:54

for you know, thirty years and completely

58:57

altered the course of history after or

59:00

unattempted coup that was absurd

59:03

and hilarious. The wild thing is this

59:05

isn't even hilarious, you know what I mean. Like

59:07

it's in a way like sure,

59:09

Rudy Giuliani sweating and black from

59:11

his head and you know, smear and snot

59:13

on his face and stuff like that, but like the

59:17

but when you're looking at it, it's truly

59:20

like we're saying, like it's the fourth quarter for

59:22

white supremacy as like a form of governance,

59:25

or there's attempts to try and fight fight

59:27

back against it, and it's like they're

59:29

not gonna fucking just lay down, Like the

59:31

whole country was built on this. So there, I

59:34

think it's it's it's a dangerous

59:36

thing to like I think on one level, like we laugh

59:38

about it too on this show, but that's more of like out of existential

59:41

dread, but at the same time

59:43

wanting to keep an eye on this ship because I think we

59:45

as we talk about it, you there

59:48

will always be somebody who's trying to

59:50

improve upon the last person's contribution

59:53

in like every field, you know, like there is

59:55

somebody who's knuckling up, like see

59:57

Trump did it wrong this way, Like if you're gonna bring

59:59

in a ethno state, it has to happen

1:00:01

this way. And that that that that that that like there

1:00:04

are people whose gears are moving to and I think that's

1:00:06

why it's it's it's important to not to also

1:00:08

have the mindset that this doesn't it's

1:00:10

not over January twenty, like this

1:00:13

is this is the beginning of the new

1:00:16

the next phase of whatever this country's history

1:00:18

is, and it's going it's pivotal, right.

1:00:21

I also think too, in uh, just America

1:00:24

in general, of American people and even I think to an extent.

1:00:26

I'm I've certainly thought this way.

1:00:28

Sometimes. I think there's like disillusionment

1:00:31

of like, oh, that wouldn't happen

1:00:33

in America though like Turkey, you know, tanks

1:00:35

like running over civilians and helicopters

1:00:37

shooting at buildings like that, that

1:00:39

wouldn't happen here, That could never happen here,

1:00:42

And I think I think it's important to keep

1:00:44

in mind that that absolutely could happen

1:00:46

here. I mean, I to be honest, I didn't even I used

1:00:48

to think a coup is only defined as uh

1:00:50

like a general military.

1:00:54

Yeah, I didn't even know. Yeah,

1:00:56

I had no idea that it could be. I

1:00:58

mean, and it totally makes sense obviously that it can be

1:01:00

defined as an administration just kind of refusing

1:01:03

to down there's

1:01:05

no it's it's wild because

1:01:08

that specific definition, and like the

1:01:10

it really seems strange that there

1:01:13

would be so much energy on being like this isn't

1:01:15

a coup and defining what a coup is and like

1:01:17

making sure that uh, something that

1:01:19

isn't that like doesn't get because there's

1:01:22

been like tons of articles. There's a Washington Post

1:01:24

op ed that is like all about

1:01:26

how this isn't a coup and you shouldn't call it a

1:01:28

coup um. But like the the US

1:01:31

government has been subject to coup's

1:01:33

from like within, from the CIA, Like

1:01:36

you know, you have these governments within the government

1:01:38

that are taking over, uh doing

1:01:41

underhanded black state, black

1:01:43

ops ship and you know, because

1:01:46

we're not willing to like when you actually read

1:01:48

the history of these things, uh, it's

1:01:51

like, oh, yeah, they created the reality

1:01:54

that we grew up in to favor

1:01:56

them. But like it's that there's

1:01:59

a whole of their history of like uh

1:02:02

things that just we didn't

1:02:04

view as a coupe because it was

1:02:07

happening under the surface. Yeah,

1:02:09

again, it's a coup on paper, so

1:02:11

treat it like you know, And I think that's why the

1:02:15

next administration and even now they

1:02:17

need to be talking like this. But again

1:02:20

it's too spicy. It's it's

1:02:22

okay for the people on the right to be calling

1:02:24

for whatever the funk they're doing, but

1:02:28

it's but it's like just a bridge

1:02:30

slightly too far for democratic democratic

1:02:32

leadership to be like they are attempting at

1:02:34

coup. I don't know, I don't care what they want

1:02:36

to call it. This is straight horse shit. But

1:02:39

it's more just like, well, we'll let the courts

1:02:41

handling him. That was a nice try. Um,

1:02:45

finally, I want to talk about a story that would

1:02:48

have I don't know it's

1:02:50

it seems like it's way

1:02:52

too important to cover in three minutes, which we're

1:02:54

going to try and do. But the

1:02:57

former head of Israel's uh

1:03:00

what what's his official title?

1:03:02

He ran and he ran into program.

1:03:05

He was the program. Like

1:03:08

there's no, he's not some guy with a

1:03:10

cool Twitter handle that you

1:03:12

know bb Net and Yahoo like Fox with It's

1:03:15

like, you know, he's he's I think he was running

1:03:17

it from like the eighties to like or

1:03:19

something like that. And but

1:03:22

for a context, he's saying, if I had come

1:03:25

up with what I'm saying today five years

1:03:28

ago, and we'll get to what he's saying, I would

1:03:30

have been hospitalized. Wherever I've gone

1:03:32

with this, in academia, they've said

1:03:34

the man has lost his mind. Today they're

1:03:36

already talking differently. I have nothing

1:03:39

to lose. I've received my degrees

1:03:41

and awards. I'm respecting universities

1:03:44

abroad where the trend is also changing.

1:03:46

That trend he says that, uh,

1:03:50

we have made alien contact,

1:03:52

the US government and Israel in particular,

1:03:55

that we are in communication and

1:03:57

in fact, in a legal contract with

1:04:01

the extraterrestrials. Um. I

1:04:03

mean, I'm glad of one of

1:04:06

his quotes. I'm glad

1:04:08

that the Aliens respect contract

1:04:10

law. That's a good sign. He

1:04:12

said, quote, there's an agreement between

1:04:15

the US government and the Aliens. They

1:04:17

signed a contract with us

1:04:19

to do experiments here. They

1:04:22

too are researching and trying to

1:04:24

understand the whole fabric of

1:04:26

the universe, and they want us

1:04:28

as helpers. Um.

1:04:32

I I just the signed

1:04:34

a contract is where it goes a little

1:04:37

too far. I was on board agreement

1:04:40

maybe you know contract

1:04:42

where they were they redlining? Did they get

1:04:44

the lawyers involved? Are the Are

1:04:46

the Aliens their own legal counsel? They're

1:04:48

like, sorry, this this is actually a poison

1:04:51

pill in this deal. We will not do it if it's

1:04:53

if it's contained in the contract language.

1:04:55

I don't, um, but they're

1:04:57

saying one of the first hubs of cooperation

1:05:00

is a base on Mars, where, by the

1:05:02

way, astronauts have already

1:05:04

set foot, American astronauts, and

1:05:07

the basis underground. That's why you can't see it. I

1:05:11

love Aliens. Two allions. My

1:05:13

uncle has a ten telescope

1:05:15

in New Hampshire and he was showing me Jupiter

1:05:18

up close. I've I've said this before, I'll say

1:05:20

it again. If I have a family, six kids,

1:05:22

I need to be there for my family, and aliens come

1:05:24

to me and say, hey, we'll take you with us. You

1:05:26

can never come back here see anybody again, but you'll get

1:05:28

to see the galaxy for what it is. I'd be like,

1:05:31

let's go. I would

1:05:33

go, okay, I want to prolog with that. But

1:05:35

I will say this guy lost me

1:05:37

when he plugged his book. He's coming

1:05:40

out, he's got coming out, and that's

1:05:42

where he lost me. You know, I

1:05:45

know it. And even in a way though it's

1:05:48

like you don't want this guy's book though, you

1:05:50

know, even like as a thing off, like if he was talking

1:05:52

that real ship, he's like, you know, it's so complex,

1:05:55

like to say it used the word agreement would

1:05:57

completely betray the forms of communication

1:06:00

these life forms used. I would be like,

1:06:02

whoa, okay, But when you're treating it like

1:06:04

a fucking like just you know a funny

1:06:07

comedy film where they was like, hey, let's

1:06:09

collab on some research, fam like

1:06:12

okay, and then

1:06:16

even like his his explanation, it's

1:06:18

like what what, where y'all been, Where the aliens

1:06:20

been? What's going on? He mentioned

1:06:22

Trump in there too. Yeah, he did say

1:06:24

that Trump was on the verge

1:06:27

of revealing all of this path Aliens

1:06:29

in the Galactic Federation, which I think

1:06:31

is literally a term from Star Trek,

1:06:34

but maybe not. Aliens and the Galactic

1:06:36

Federation are saying, wait, let everyone calm

1:06:39

down first. They they don't want to start mass

1:06:41

hysteria. They want to first make us saying and

1:06:43

understanding. So here's

1:06:46

why, Like, obviously I want to believe,

1:06:49

and I'm going to always

1:06:51

error on the side of yeah, this could be possible.

1:06:54

The thing about the contract. So

1:06:57

one of my theories on aliens is that they

1:06:59

might end up being a lot more

1:07:01

similar to us than we expect

1:07:04

them to be because of parallel

1:07:06

evolution and the fact that like

1:07:08

when you look in Australia

1:07:11

at like the wildlife that evolved

1:07:14

there, and it like looks almost identical

1:07:16

to wildlife that evolved independently

1:07:19

in the US. It's like there,

1:07:22

when you have the conditions of life

1:07:25

in two different, seemingly different places,

1:07:28

like they do end up cohering

1:07:31

similarly. So I don't

1:07:33

know, like, maybe maybe that is something

1:07:35

that eventually always comes up

1:07:38

and when when there's a civilization

1:07:40

that has evolved to a certain point, maybe

1:07:43

they're like, well, you gotta have contracts, man, I mean

1:07:47

otherwise and then nothing separates us from the

1:07:49

single cell to organisms. Please,

1:07:51

I didn't come all this way to not have the legal

1:07:54

paperwork and to protect my interests

1:07:56

in this agreement, Earthling. But

1:07:59

I'll so just like picturing the process

1:08:02

of getting from respected

1:08:05

in academic circles has

1:08:08

this hugely powerful uh

1:08:11

career, and now what

1:08:14

makes like just

1:08:16

selling books just being like yeah, like

1:08:19

it just seems I don't know, I

1:08:21

have I have a hard time imagining

1:08:25

that evolution, like

1:08:27

unless he was always all along,

1:08:29

like had some suspicion that there was

1:08:31

alien contact, Like he just given

1:08:34

his mouth shut because it's going to cost him his job all

1:08:36

the time. They're like, dude, you gotta knock that shut off,

1:08:38

like like we're serious scientists

1:08:41

and he's just using like the same ship that UFO

1:08:43

heads in the US used, Like

1:08:46

I'm just saying roswell though, dog look

1:08:48

at this viral video, Dude,

1:08:51

what about that beam of light above tel Aviva just

1:08:53

shot up in the sky? What was that? I

1:08:56

have it from multiple angles. It's like that was doctored.

1:08:58

We already talked about this doctor alright,

1:09:01

it did a great job on it, you know, yeah, no, I

1:09:03

mean it looks like it looks like I

1:09:05

wonder if to like yeah, like at a certain point,

1:09:07

you know, this is like his like breaking bad like

1:09:09

kind of thing was like, fuck it, I got nothing on

1:09:13

this alien ship and get a book deal

1:09:16

and get my little check. So I can, you know, just

1:09:18

buy my retirement cabin and live

1:09:20

life comfortably because my government pension

1:09:23

is running out. So I gotta exploit that position

1:09:25

to say some wild alien ship. I

1:09:27

don't know that would be a smart move though,

1:09:29

because instantly right like it's a it's

1:09:32

this has been a global headline because

1:09:35

of because of the position he helped. So

1:09:37

it's like just if so if you just have that

1:09:40

former title to give you any authority, keep

1:09:42

in mind, anybody in any position with authority,

1:09:45

you can do this. Come out with some outlanders

1:09:47

ship. That would just be like up end the general

1:09:50

accepted knowledge of your industry, and people like

1:09:52

what the formerhead of what said?

1:09:54

What but this huh? And

1:09:57

then people will laugh you out, but you'll get your little

1:09:59

shine. Yeah. So you're

1:10:01

you're officially on this guy's uh

1:10:04

lost it or is just trying to sell books ship,

1:10:07

I don't know. I mean I like

1:10:10

the energy. I love I love the

1:10:12

energy of someone who's gonna like completely

1:10:15

change the game on us like this and be like, no,

1:10:17

y'all not listening. They have signed

1:10:20

fucking contracts, okay.

1:10:23

And Trump almost sucked it all up. And

1:10:25

then the aliens were like, nah, found just

1:10:27

dead that for a second because the people are not ready

1:10:30

for us to do our grand reveal. So

1:10:32

if you could just sit on that, we would appreciate that.

1:10:34

And Donald Trump was like bet, and you know that's

1:10:36

basically who our president is. He respects

1:10:39

the you know, agency of these aliens

1:10:41

to themselves. I

1:10:44

just love it. It's like it's

1:10:46

also tough down too, because we're we're like

1:10:49

having this conversation in society right now about

1:10:51

believing the scientists and buying any of these people. I'm

1:10:53

like, this guy is an academic, super respected. He

1:10:55

ran their space program, So this is somebody who we

1:10:57

should buy into, right, Like

1:10:59

we should say like I

1:11:02

need like for something like this. It's like, yo, you need I

1:11:04

need you to bring another few friends with you. The ratios

1:11:06

aren't good here for a thing like this, I

1:11:08

need better ratios. I need like five other

1:11:10

people who like y'all can actually be like yo, yo,

1:11:13

Okay, we're not going to tell y'all,

1:11:15

but that one mission look into that, and

1:11:17

then I would be like, oh oh, but

1:11:22

if the aliens are out there trying to get

1:11:24

us to be more reasonable, you know,

1:11:26

I'm just saying, where did this vaccine come from?

1:11:29

It's all of a sudden we got a vaccine this accurate

1:11:32

or effective. Come on, dude, you think

1:11:35

they aliens didn't give that to us? What

1:11:37

then? Did you think I was talking about Operation

1:11:40

Warp Speed. I was on the

1:11:42

fucking USS Enterprise, motherfucker secure

1:11:44

in the vaccine. There's

1:11:47

no way he was down. I was in the hospital.

1:11:50

I was doing deals in fucking

1:11:52

zebulon three six nine das Z. There's

1:11:55

no way he'd be able to uh

1:11:58

not brag about that ship I know, actually

1:12:03

brokering this deal right, because

1:12:05

he's gonna do. We've heard about his negotiating

1:12:07

tactics. He's gonna be in. There's like, nice to

1:12:09

meet you alien people. I'm surprisingly calm

1:12:11

in this negotiation, but I just want to shut up

1:12:13

by saying fuck you and he walks out.

1:12:17

That's right, That's right. Ship.

1:12:21

That is the main thing that keeps me from believing

1:12:23

this is the idea that Trump would be able

1:12:25

to, you know, put his own behind

1:12:28

the greater good of the species

1:12:31

relationship to our alien leaders.

1:12:35

Um yeah, well,

1:12:37

uh, stay tuned, I guess also

1:12:41

stay tuned to what Trump has to say when

1:12:43

he's out of office. Connor,

1:12:46

it has been fun having you, ma'am. Where

1:12:48

can people uh find you and follow

1:12:50

you? Hey? Twitter

1:12:53

or Instagram. I'm not super

1:12:55

involved in Twitter, so it's you do need

1:12:57

to follow me on Twitter. I'll just make my random

1:13:00

sports tweets that are useless. You

1:13:02

can you can follow me on Instagram at

1:13:04

Connor del Rio dude.

1:13:08

And you can follow me on I

1:13:10

make Actually I know, you know, people got this idea about

1:13:13

TikTok, but I make some pretty uh, I make cool TikTok's.

1:13:15

I actually put quite the amount of effort into them. You

1:13:17

can follow me onto horror

1:13:20

movies in there yeah a little

1:13:23

Yeah. I like to have fun on there and actually try

1:13:25

to do some things. Um, so you

1:13:27

can follow me on TikTok as well. And

1:13:30

uh, you can also if

1:13:32

it's safe to do so. I've got a movie

1:13:34

called Half Brothers with Focus Features

1:13:36

in Universal in theaters right now

1:13:39

where it's safe to do so. It will

1:13:41

also be available on p v O

1:13:43

D at home later this month

1:13:45

as well. Yeah. Yeah, uh.

1:13:49

And is there tweet or some of the work of social

1:13:51

media you've been enjoying? Oh

1:13:54

yeah, I always. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Moses

1:13:56

Storm. I always really enjoy his tweets. He's

1:13:58

a stand up comedian in l A very

1:14:01

very funny, very very talented guy. Uh

1:14:04

said when l

1:14:06

A was first starting this lockdown,

1:14:08

he said l A lockdown in quotes, you

1:14:10

can't go anywhere but anywhere.

1:14:16

Yeah, that did kind of seem

1:14:18

that way when they were first talking about it. You know parking

1:14:21

signs. Yeah, yeah, that's

1:14:24

it. That's one. It stuck with me. Yeah, he's a very funny

1:14:26

guy. People should follow him. Very funny. Miles.

1:14:28

Where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying?

1:14:31

Twitter? Instagram, Miles of Gray.

1:14:33

Also other podcast for twenty Day Fiance

1:14:36

Talking ninety Day Fiance

1:14:39

and um, this okay,

1:14:41

I'm sorry this tweet is is a little vulgar

1:14:43

you know a little n S f W, but I gotta

1:14:46

say it's a it's a cum joke, so brace

1:14:48

your ears, y'all. Uh. It's

1:14:51

from Stacy at Cute Little Snaces. It's

1:14:53

just using heart emoji. Just got a lovely

1:14:55

d M from a man saying I'd look way hotter

1:14:58

with come on my face, which really got me thinking.

1:15:00

So question for the guys, you're in a

1:15:02

bar and there's two equally attractive

1:15:05

unaccompanied women, one with come

1:15:07

on her face and one without, which

1:15:09

do you go for? That's

1:15:13

a great question. And then it's the chin rub

1:15:16

emoji with another heart beautifully

1:15:19

constructed. Um

1:15:24

to check her out? Um

1:15:28

uh? At Almond

1:15:31

tittiesh tweeted,

1:15:34

tweeted rock Bottom has kind of lit

1:15:36

all my homies down here with me, which

1:15:38

I liked. Uh. J

1:15:42

Murph tweeted, surely not everything

1:15:44

is on this bagel uh And

1:15:49

at driving Me. Maddie tweeted,

1:15:51

just because you think you're trash doesn't mean

1:15:53

you don't do great things. That's why

1:15:55

it's a garbage can, not a garbage

1:15:58

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1:16:23

Miles? What are we riding out on? Two

1:16:25

Bay? This is a track from

1:16:28

Ruth Then r U T h V E n

1:16:31

uh. And this is an artist out of London who's

1:16:34

just doing like throwback

1:16:36

R and eighties R and B style, but like from

1:16:39

the year. So if

1:16:41

you like got down to any you know, you love that eighties

1:16:43

R and B sound, you're gonna like the work

1:16:46

of Ruth Then. But it's also like funny because

1:16:48

his like Londoner accent is so strong

1:16:51

that it comes out in some words and you're used to hearing

1:16:53

like more like American, like Black English

1:16:55

saying certain words and then suddenly yet laka

1:16:58

in it or whatever of some kind of idiom

1:17:01

or something like that. But the track of goals it's called

1:17:03

Evil and it's I

1:17:06

don't know, it's like just one of those things. It's it's it's

1:17:08

remarkably nostalgic but also

1:17:11

future looking, so we like that. All

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