0:02

Man . Why

0:06

? Why are we doing this now ? Yo

0:14

bro . What's

0:16

Up with everybody nowadays bro?

0:20

. is just going

0:26

on, man.

0:30

I ain't do nothing, man.

0:32

What I do, I don't ever do nothing. You know that

0:38

What I do, just

0:41

give me an example. Wow

0:45

.

0:45

What did I say? Right after that? I said , yo, I could

0:47

be wrong. I'm not sure. Like got

0:50

to do. Li ke I can't be up on

0:52

everybody's business.

0:55

Come on, stop that. Stop that don't do that.

0:58

Don't do that. Don't fall into that game. Don't

1:00

do that bro. Not cheat . I expected

1:02

of others.

1:05

All right , come

1:07

on .

1:08

Do not do that, sir.

1:11

All right . He

1:18

could have just let him say he probably

1:20

would been it .

1:21

I said, what did I say? I said , yo, because you know

1:23

what I mean? People got to do. So I'm like, yo, I don't think, I

1:25

think I'm pretty sure w hat G said. He wasn't coming. C

1:28

ause he got to do. He's been really busy, but

1:30

I could be wrong. So I don't know.

1:32

How was that? A defensive

1:34

Stance .

1:35

Come on, man. You're not going to tell me what not to say. I

1:38

don't work. I don't know how to do that. you

1:40

talking about the

1:43

door lo ck.

1:44

. I didn't expect

1:46

that.

1:47

I don't expect nothing from nobody bro. That's that's my

1:49

problem. That is my mother. problem.

1:55

That's it. Isn't it.

1:57

I need to expect more people. Yo Jay , hold up. You

1:59

got me caught in. Uh , you got me. You

2:01

caught me J ay.

2:13

Yeah .

2:22

I thought it was six 30 until I looked up.

2:32

Okay .

2:32

And these are going to be testing out.

2:39

Let me know if it's a little cold in here. Cause you know, I dunno how

2:41

temperature works.

2:51

Can I say he tired? He won't do it tomorrow. That's

2:53

what he said. Give

2:56

another 20 . You

2:58

got a warm

3:01

Asking them .

3:04

Hold on. He can't hear you. He don't got them. He ain't got the . I

3:09

don't got the on.

3:13

Great .

3:18

Oh this always, he always

3:20

do the wrong . Look,

3:23

look, look at him. Look

3:25

at h is t hing.

3:27

Look at the snake .

3:33

It ain't cold out there.

3:35

You never know. Now he

3:37

could hear himself, right ?

3:38

Yo . I was saying , um, man

3:41

,

3:43

Oh man, stop it . I honestly, I

3:45

jumped in a little late. Come on bro. Y'all doing

3:47

this right now. I jumped on a little late. I heard

3:49

I'm about to mute this . Canon bro. There's

3:52

no way he's saying this right now. What happened?

3:56

I feel like Tyrone got to tell us exactly

3:58

what's going on because I think he knows more. He's

4:01

been telling you , I

4:04

forgot what happened though .

4:05

, you sleepy. What'd you tell him ? I said he's

4:07

sleeping delirious.

4:09

Okay . I just woke up man . t

4:11

alking r ight down.

4:17

I saw yo it's Friday. You know?

4:19

You know what happened ?

4:20

Nothing. Whole

4:23

lot of nothing more.

4:27

Nothing. What

4:30

the ? I don't ever do

4:32

nothing.

4:33

I don't know what happened. You know what you going to send

4:36

out blessings for G sound?

4:41

Isn't this? What? Y'all . Isn't

4:44

it. So isn't this why we bought the equipment

4:46

wrong a nd r ight. And that's the reason I s aid, isn't

4:49

that? Why we bought the equipment?

4:51

Yeah . I thought I was falling in, you know, I

4:56

didn't , I was going stop anybody, you

4:59

know ? But

5:01

Gannon don't listen, man. Don't come in.

5:03

Don't come in here. Be insensitive for nothing. All

5:06

right , don't do that to me. Not to me.

5:08

It's me. Okay. You'll get it. I know

5:10

you was in the room. Y'all what'd you think of the Gucci? Gucci

5:13

Jeezy joint bro.

5:14

And that's always lit dog for

5:17

black history.

5:20

Break out .

5:21

You know what I'm saying? We saw something

5:23

legendary, something that we

5:25

could tell our grandchildren, Gucci

5:28

, Gucci . They did

5:30

. They brought up the old beef . Shout

5:33

it out. Detroit. I know you heard that part.

5:35

I might've missed that bar , but I mean, I

5:38

know Gucci was calling Jeezy and a bunch

5:40

of times I was like, yo, how

5:43

much more yo u g oing to be ta ken? crab.

5:48

Jesus. You

5:50

got to chat wit h the person. Always chee r for

5:52

the man.

5:54

Yeah. So I mean, you know, goosey . He worked with the South,

5:57

he had the bang , bang Jeezy

6:03

. He

6:06

had a couple of scratches. You know what I'm saying? To a couple

6:08

in there that was his personal savory . Not

6:11

really worth it .

6:13

I was never really big on Gucci. And then after

6:15

the first open and this is where I was

6:17

, I was like, Oh this trying

6:19

to ether, take off, eat the

6:21

takeover. And I was like, h e's trying to bring it back.

6:24

Yeah. But why, why, why was Gucci

6:26

so aggressive is the question. B ecause t he particular

6:28

reason why Gucci was aggressive,

6:30

Then they get always aggressive weight .

6:33

That's a grown man, bro. I say Southern

6:36

ar e s ensitive. That's what I say. That's

6:38

my stance. Sensitive

6:43

Ti Vo. Yeah

6:46

man. I understand what happened. Th at w as 15

6:49

years ago th ough. Bro. I understand like tried

6:51

to

6:51

Kill you, bro.

6:53

If you go , if you're going to have the beef, then you shouldn't have done

6:55

it and be like, yo , if it's either beef or not beef,

6:57

he did like a real half-step and we in the room,

7:00

but I'm gonna call you . I was like, yo, if you

7:02

re , if we really got beef, I'm shooting you on site . If

7:04

we, if that's the case, if

7:06

that's the, if that's how I get down. Cause it sounds like

7:08

that's what Gigi , Gucci wanted. It

7:11

sound like what you was trying to push Jeezy . Like come on , cr

7:15

ab . Huh? Se nd t

7:17

hem to come get me. Tha t mu st 've bee n hot

7:19

though. Y'all seen that alpha fit.

7:22

That cost 10 b ands. I

7:26

got 10 out, 10 grand on my outfit.

7:28

A million dollars worth of jewelry. He

7:31

killed it that afternoon.

7:33

The , that .

7:38

I'm just saying yo , it sound like he got a lot . He

7:41

needed therapy. It sounded like Jeezy went to a lot

7:43

of therapy. Jeezy's Jeezy's

7:45

I'm working on being healed, but

7:48

Gucci got a long way to go. Y'all

7:52

You got a long road road, man.

7:55

Gucci married, bro. Jeezy

7:58

engage and Jeezy on half of Atlanta,

8:01

his words, he

8:04

said half of

8:06

Atlanta. He was like, you talking about

8:09

jewelry and James , he was like, I don't even

8:11

wear that. I don't half of Atlanta, my guy,

8:13

I don't believe he said that he

8:15

was on leave. He sat

8:16

Down and all . So Canon the question is you trying to

8:18

record

8:19

It now ? You're not trying to record on it .

8:21

I'm , bro. I gotta get in the

8:23

whip at uh , 20

8:26

minutes.

8:27

Jay, do you hear him consistently? Yeah,

8:29

he sounds

8:29

Great to me.

8:32

I'm going to Catalina. He's

8:34

Out at like eight . We

8:38

already got, we already got the headphones on.

8:39

I already got the headphones on you. Right? You right you

8:42

right. [inaudible]

8:48

Can it be going to need a mix for the intro? Borrow

8:51

some more.

8:55

She listens to these days .

8:57

Reasons I'm bumping reasons stuff

9:00

for Greece ,

9:03

Huh?

9:05

With TDE. Um , joined the Lucas.

9:09

I saw from what ? Sophomore album. He

9:11

got some heat.

9:12

I heard though that

9:16

His son on the cover of it. I

9:20

like this first joint better. I like ADHD. I

9:22

was mad when I had some heat on it.

9:28

You didn't really hear about the second

9:30

Kind of Sophomore

9:34

slump kind of feel to it. Can

9:37

I can ask you a question. Can

9:40

I start the episode? I thought we started

9:49

The

9:49

Podcast.

10:12

What's y'all talking about man.

10:14

We talking about the new, the latest and greatest talking

10:17

about the latest and greatest hip hop basketball.

10:20

What does that even mean? Who's

10:22

high rain now. Who here

10:24

? you ain't who

10:27

ain't . So

10:29

you saw that, man.

10:31

Actually, it was funny. You liked it. Yo

10:35

u g o t t o c heck it out, bro. You know that, you know the title Ca

10:37

non, you know what it's called?

10:40

Now ?

10:41

It should have been what it's called zero

10:43

. Given it

10:46

sounded like a title that , uh , I really resonate

10:49

with. I'm be

10:49

Honest with you. You can see that

10:52

Sound like a shot, bro . I sound

10:54

like a mean old mom shot.

10:57

And

10:58

I'm agreeing with you.

11:04

But anyway man , welcome to the

11:06

cubby guys. Thank y'all for coming out. It's a pleasure to be with you

11:08

guys. Once again, we've

11:11

had a lot of time separate, but now we're

11:13

almost all together. This man's fumbling

11:15

with the microphone, You

11:20

know , lost how to behave. Sound

11:26

better. That way sound

11:28

traveled up. Thank you all for coming out to

11:30

the Covey

11:33

In the boot .

11:34

don't even want me to do t he [

11:37

inaudible] don't know how to act. No m a y

11:40

our intro sla sh . I

11:42

think that's a p e rfect segue into what

11:45

is a m a ndatory hiatus and what is no t. And

11:47

why is it important to take a break? But

11:50

then when you do come back, don't

11:53

know how to a ct .

11:54

That's true.

11:57

It's that first day of school you ain't getting no work done

11:59

without yo what you're wearing be

12:01

in the hallway all day, all day.

12:04

Yo, my m an's L ang is that a Mitchell and ness

12:06

or just a n ess b ro? Y

12:10

o m ind school w as crazy. Anyway. Yo, this i s your host.

12:12

Yo T L ou T ila. D o w hat t o d o. H e got t he c

12:14

up o f gas in the building. Yes sir.

12:16

JWC is out here b right a

12:18

nd early. Nice and late. Always h

12:20

ere. Always. Great. You

12:22

got another c ast m ember, m an. He's always so far

12:24

away, but he's always so cool.

12:27

Now , you know , back

12:29

in Detroit, cold

12:32

out here. It's so cold,

12:36

cold. That's how I

12:40

person , you know

12:42

,

12:43

Anyway , he got a call of got a call coming in breast

12:46

cancer. That's your mom , bro . I ain't pressing cancer. Can't

12:49

ain't going to be the one on breast cancer, bro.

12:53

You got to do it . There's a lot of beeps.

12:57

I respect.

12:57

I respect ms . Ms . Marlene too much. Y'all

13:01

bro. Breast cancer , man , respect.

13:03

I'm in the middle of my intro bro. Respect

13:05

the elders. That

13:08

was cold into Dean cannon .

13:10

Oh man. That's

13:17

cold this week

13:21

though. That's the weather, but

13:23

I haven't seen the number four on the weather report.

13:25

It was about 36 . Oh

13:30

you gotta have the heating steering wheels out here. That

13:33

makes sense. Is that , is that

13:35

new and that come up. Do

13:37

they make it in the Midwest? You gotta have heated

13:40

STAM . Y'all got heated car heated

13:43

on it. You ain't doing it right. You

13:47

behind

13:47

Car warm up and all that set

13:50

out 29 .

13:56

They grow up that way.

13:57

I heard you rocking , uh , a truck

14:00

now, Ron , I heard you out here for Whelan . Ooh.

14:06

What you on now?

14:11

[inaudible]

14:12

I think I remember when you wasn't driving now you

14:14

got a truck

14:19

Shout out to you

14:22

Survive . So Cal without a whip, man, I respect

14:24

that salute

14:26

100%. I don't know how you

14:27

Did it, man. Got up and got a law degree

14:29

with no wheels. Like that's respect.

14:33

No discreet , no excuses. Yo

14:36

No. I looked up not

14:39

recommended, not for the faint of heart. Only real from

14:42

D etroit a

14:44

ll.

14:45

And dude , do you , can I say the rules? We ain't even

14:47

get to the rules here . Can I do that for the listeners?

14:50

No , I know. I know you guys like to

14:52

Connect with us cause it's real conversation. And

14:55

it's like you're sitting in our living room, heavy

14:57

, an epi episode that you pay

14:59

attention to. It's like you're sitting in our living

15:01

room, but for all of you guys that don't know what

15:03

the cubby is. The cubby is a platform for

15:06

not only millennials, but those in the professional space

15:08

just to come together and it's talk our , understanding

15:11

what it takes to get you from point a to

15:13

point B and just kind of living

15:15

in art , our experiences. I'm sorry,

15:18

experiences. We got men

15:20

from all over the country. Obviously.

15:24

Uh, we have somebody in the legal field and we have somebody

15:26

in the marketing field. We have somebody in the financial

15:28

field. Let me have somebody in the sales fam . So

15:32

please pay attention to us. But if you are here for the cubby,

15:34

this is probably not your first time. So I'm gonna say the rules,

15:36

the copy book . First of all, little cubby

15:38

is the dark. No roasted coffee . Second,

15:41

one little cubby in whatever you bring. You

15:44

got to finish third. Wait Jay

15:46

, you brought anything. I brought a lot. You

15:51

gotta get a two K game. Anyway. Third ruler

15:53

. Covey . Is anybody

15:56

worried about you in the coving ? Fourth little

15:58

cubby is stay on your P's and Q's

16:01

because you never know having in the cover . I

16:09

had to do that for them because Fairfield

16:13

little cubby is the most important rule. You

16:15

only get three times in the cup . So

16:17

once those three times is up no

16:19

C times

16:30

[inaudible]

16:31

Let me ask you a question, man. How do y'all like these sound effects

16:34

going on right now? I like the sound effects

16:40

May , might need to expand a little bit.

16:43

You know , we got to start somewhere.

16:47

I think that's good. I think that's good . But the topic

16:49

of today is you guys know what the topic of today is talking

16:51

about holes or something like that. [inaudible]

17:02

, bro

17:07

, like going to the zoo. [

17:23

inaudible] P olk high school.

17:29

Crazy .

17:30

I want to know about Jose what'd you want to know ma NA

17:33

that's what we came here for. Ain't nobody

17:35

say that saying that every single time you went here saying

17:37

how the holes ain't that? What are we doing ? No

17:40

, it's Teddy.

17:43

Eddie owes . No man. The

17:45

Topic of the day

17:47

Today is hi . It's Heidi. Ho

17:49

man,

17:50

Here we go.

17:51

You know,

17:54

I heard it before it was in a cartoon

17:57

. It wasn't a constant cold always

17:59

want to say something extra. Y ou e ver try

18:02

to stay warm. That's a c ool re mark.

18:05

No ,

18:08

Uh, it's called Heidi. Heidi. Hope

18:10

the importance of taking a mandatory hiatus.

18:13

And what is that? What is the stigma

18:16

associated with taking a break? Can

18:18

we realistically say that a braking

18:20

action is supported in our society

18:23

is going ghost on life necessary

18:27

. So

18:30

I'm gonna ask my man cannon . I'm curious.

18:32

Cause he done took a plane and left. So if

18:34

that ain't no mandatory break . I

18:37

dunno . How do you feel about taking

18:40

a step back away from not only

18:42

the pressures that we deal with as not only black

18:44

men in our society, but men in general. And

18:47

is there a stigma associated with

18:49

that break when or if you decide

18:51

to come back?

18:53

Well, I mean, I feel like there's

18:55

different levels for the breaks , right? And

18:57

in general, everybody thinks brake

19:00

, whether you in school, you take a break , you

19:03

know, you get the break on the weekend , you

19:05

know, get professional athletes or whoever people

19:07

do entertainer. They take a break from touring

19:10

off season. It's always these breaks even

19:12

when you're working out and take a break. So your muscles can recharge

19:15

and get stronger. So basically you always

19:17

got to take a break, but as you can come back in and

19:20

be back better where it says reevaluate,

19:23

see the work areas would pick up. And

19:26

so I feel like in that , in that sense , the break

19:28

is cool . However, some

19:30

of my really ever wants to go sit in on them when they need

19:33

you . That's going to really come down

19:35

to it's like if somebody needs you now,

19:37

you can't , I'm taking a break right now. You got to take a break when a job

19:39

is done for the most part.

19:41

Yeah. But Canon sometimes when you're taking that break

19:43

and I'm going to interrupt a little bit, sometimes

19:46

taking that break is for you to unplug. So

19:48

if you do make it and say, if you communicate

19:50

that break to others and then they do respond

19:53

to you, what is your feedback

19:56

to those that are unwilling

19:58

to accept your boundary ?

20:01

You don't say you got to do the best to use the end of the day.

20:04

If you're not a , do you want me to take a break? You

20:06

can be at your best and be at your feet and

20:08

you may need to do that. Now everyone

20:10

has different levels where they're able to work and perform.

20:13

But especially as a black man

20:15

or minority or whatever, that

20:17

I mentioned, the mental impact that

20:20

you'd be able to perform and do what you got to do at

20:22

the end of the day.

20:24

That's so true. Yeah . I totally agree with you.

20:26

I feel like it's , it's like with anything, like

20:28

nobody works out for an hour straight. You gotta take

20:30

breaks. You gotta take breaks in between 24

20:33

hours straight. Do you know what I mean? At the end of the day, if you do it,

20:36

you'll break down. Nobody drives a car for

20:38

X amount of time, without at least stopping to get gas.

20:41

Like that's just, that's actually the that's

20:43

actually the recipe for success. You got to take little

20:46

intermittent breaks where necessary. Cause there's

20:48

no way you can go to distance without breaking down. I

20:52

think breaks absolutely necessary. But to the

20:54

point, I think more

20:56

times than not, especially among men, it's

20:59

kind of like a either it's like ego or

21:01

what ? Just so competitive. It's like sometimes

21:03

breaks are frowned upon.

21:05

Yeah. Matt [inaudible]

21:09

Team, no sleep.

21:10

I was asleep . I'm not sleeping. I'm working on her

21:16

dreams , sleeping

21:20

on the bed and

21:22

you got to take naps.

21:31

Unsolicited naps. No,

21:35

but honestly man, I'm one of those guys that just

21:37

stay up. I don't even be doing , but

21:39

sleep to me. I've always felt like it was a waste

21:41

of time. And I don't know why I don't .

21:44

That's a great use of time.

21:46

I don't know who put this in my head, but I think

21:48

throughout my life and my experiences and I know a couple

21:50

of our listeners could probably really

21:52

empathize with this set , this , uh , stigma.

21:55

We think that rest is allowing us

21:57

not to move forward. But in the contrary, especially

22:00

because us, we took a little break. Let's be honest.

22:02

Yeah . We took a little break, you know, left,

22:05

you see what I'm saying? They had to go take care of their business. And

22:08

as brothers, we all know whatever business

22:10

you need to take care of. You take care of

22:12

that. And then we'll always be here to support

22:14

whatever dream that you have, man. But the image

22:16

that it presents, let's just say to the world internally,

22:20

externally, it says though you're off

22:22

the mat off the grid. Like have y'all

22:24

ever took a break from Instagram?

22:27

Yeah, that'll do that.

22:29

You gotta do that. Is that like mandatory

22:35

Instagram given

22:35

Us that sometimes we can get into that rabbit hole.

22:41

You shake rabbit hole where you press one and

22:44

just scroll up

22:48

On a page full of people. You don't even

22:50

know. You

22:53

know what I'm saying? You just, you just deep in it now

22:55

, but you got to take a

22:57

break. Like I gotta readjust. And I'm wondering

22:59

all the time are people always on their

23:01

phones, always popping it open. The first

23:03

thing you do when you wake up, first thing

23:05

you're doing. When you go to the bathroom shower,

23:09

get it gets worse before you go to

23:11

sleep. You know what I'm saying? Situations

23:13

like that. Lot of people say they take a step

23:15

back because this is taking a lot of time. And so that

23:17

I actually want to do so let me take a break on stuff . I

23:21

mean, today's point you always taking a break

23:24

and an area of your life sacrificing something

23:26

so that you can do something else. Right?

23:28

Take that break from work or take that break from a task

23:31

so that you can get back to working on your mental health.

23:34

And self-care , that's a great day .

23:37

It's a great point. Especially with mental health. That's a great poor

23:39

, my mental health.

23:40

Take a break on the day, take a break on the day.

23:42

So you can get some rest right after

23:46

you done with that. You know, you gonna be back the

23:48

next night, but you got to do all this stuff in before

23:50

. So it's always a continuous

23:52

cycle for a lot of different activities .

23:57

Jay , how do you feel about when

24:00

you do take a break and others

24:03

come back up to you and they ask you, Hey man,

24:06

where you been at, bro? You've been off

24:08

the map. Does that bother you as an

24:10

individual? Or is this something that you praise

24:13

as saying, okay, I was missed, Oh,

24:16

you took the words right out of my mouth. I was gonna say,

24:18

I don't actually have to be

24:20

finishing my sandwich , but

24:25

what's the saying like , uh, like absence

24:27

makes the heart grow fonder. So at the end

24:29

of the day, if we'll put facts on that, bro, God

24:32

, there we go, baby. Um

24:34

, at the end of the day, like if you do have

24:37

that separation, it does create a little

24:39

curiosity. Like yo , what have they been? What have

24:41

they been up to? What has changed in their lives?

24:43

You know what I mean? And then it's just like, Oh, well this happened,

24:45

this happened X got a car, X

24:47

got engaged, X got this X, got a bike.

24:49

You know what I'm saying? It's like a lot of people I got

24:51

engaged. Maybe, you

24:54

know what I mean? Like a month ago, what the happened?

24:57

S ee, keep up first

25:00

of all, congratulations. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Let me just

25:02

say that as a real n ickel comment. Thank you. Thank you, man.

25:05

So I appreciate that. I

25:06

Can appreciate that. So back to these hoes

25:08

, so Heidi

25:11

, that's

25:15

the first one . I know what I'm saying, but in all

25:17

of that, if that that little space of

25:19

like absence or even just like a little breathe

25:21

, even like you talk about getting on the stage, he was like

25:24

just like a little pregnant pause and

25:26

sometimes just what you need to get that message

25:28

across. Nah, nah, not

25:30

at this stage bro. Nope

25:32

, bro. Can agree with that . You don't mean

25:34

you don't take pauses on stage. You can't stop

25:36

going.

25:40

Boom .

25:40

Pregnant, pause. Not, not going on stage.

25:42

I don't agree. I don't agree. What don't you agree with? What's

25:45

going on on stage. I understand every other aspect

25:47

that you're talking about, but taking a break so that you're missed

25:49

and or that pregnant pause where

25:51

you can reset. I get that. What

25:54

we're talking about stage now the stage is such

25:56

an outlet. If you do take a break, life

25:58

creeps up on you because now there is no outlet. The

26:01

part of going up on stage is for you to

26:03

express that out . Then once you stop expressing

26:05

that outlet, fear creeps into your mind.

26:08

You start to become a little bit more self

26:10

aware into terms of what you need to do.

26:13

A lot of happens, man. H mm. S

26:15

o I cannot agree with the whole aspect

26:17

of the stage aspect, but everything else, I

26:19

get you bro. A hundred percent I was talking about on

26:21

stage.

26:24

What does a pregnant pause is like planning , you

26:26

know , intentional,

26:28

But the stage

26:31

To speak in breath

26:35

.

26:36

That's definitely a pause and timing is everything.

26:40

So like a pause from the stage or you pause

26:42

and just start reflecting on life

26:45

and why you're in the middle of something else.

26:48

Yeah. You can't, you can't, if you really want to be

26:50

good and you really want to be places

26:53

where , uh , you have great

26:55

perspective taking a break from the stage

26:57

for an extended period of time. So for instance, this

26:59

whole quarantine thing, I can tell

27:02

how it really up comedians, but in the

27:04

same vein, I can see how creative

27:06

comedians are because now you get a lot

27:08

of the online sort of

27:10

experience. Like you go on zoom and

27:12

there could be one comedian t here like 30 people

27:15

and he'll entertain those 30 people

27:17

for X amount of time. And

27:19

it's a new skill that has been developed,

27:22

but nothing is going to

27:24

take place of sitting

27:26

in front of a person, having them interact with what

27:28

you're saying. But I digress. I don't

27:30

mean take it away. T here's no substitution for

27:33

that. N o, there's no substitution

27:35

for going r oll b

27:38

acks. P erfect.

27:44

Okay.

27:48

You're not, you're not going to expand on that. I mean, I came to

27:50

talk about the host, first

27:52

of all right , Heidi, Heidi, right

27:55

up my . So , okay . Let

27:57

me ask you this question just in the , the professional

28:00

space cause we are in the United

28:02

States of America and I want to shout out just the election, not

28:04

necessarily the results because we can get into that,

28:06

but just the mirror aspect of

28:08

how democracy really showed its face in

28:12

the 2020 election . So I just really

28:14

want to make sure I put some, some

28:17

kudos up on everyone that did

28:19

vote. And if you didn't vote,

28:27

Okay ,

28:27

Hopefully you like, but as polar,

28:30

as we were in 2016 and

28:32

as divided that we weren't 2016 and 2020,

28:34

it was just a representation of how divided

28:36

this place is. But once again, I

28:38

digress. That's another episode, episode,

28:42

episode, more or less, but

28:44

Canada , let me ask you this question in terms of, cause we always

28:47

go on three different marks, especially here in the cubby. We

28:50

know the rules, but we really try to talk about the full

28:52

aspect of what a man is and the full aspect

28:54

of what a woman is and just a professional in general, but

28:57

just professionally speaking in

28:59

other countries, work is second to a

29:02

personal family foundation. When

29:05

did America change that narrative?

29:07

Or was that always the narrative

29:10

of it ?

29:14

I mean, I

29:17

don't know if that maybe it's always been in

29:19

there, you know? Cause

29:24

a lot of things haven't really changed. I

29:27

mean, you look at other countries where

29:29

they take a lot of breaks . They uh,

29:32

so they, they take nap during the day or

29:34

certain days of the week. They don't have to go to work.

29:37

America does kind of a grinded out kind

29:39

of place you work are the

29:41

harder you work, the better off you are. And

29:44

so if you've taken a break, sometimes

29:47

it's looked at as well. You're not looking forward to though

29:51

because there's the grind and you

29:53

get it type of conflict .

29:56

Capitalism. Capitalism

29:59

is

30:00

Only the strong survive and you know , that'd be somebody

30:02

at the bottom, but it'd be ,

30:06

You want it ? You wanna put facts on that, but say

30:11

it, say that one more time. Somebody's gotta be aware .

30:15

That'd be smile on the bottom for the smile on top.

30:18

Seriously.

30:22

The only way it works, that's

30:24

the only way near the top.

30:30

All right . I just wanted to make sure I heard you correctly. Jay

30:32

, what do you think about that in terms of this

30:34

country and their viewpoint on a

30:37

break? Uh, things

30:39

that take away from the

30:41

bottom dollar. So whenever I think about

30:43

America, I think about how young

30:46

we are as a country, right? 17, 1776.

30:49

Doesn't look like now. So I'm always like

30:51

yo at the end of the day, I think of

30:53

America like a young teenager with a lot of energy.

30:56

It just like, yo, I gotta prove a point where the

30:58

best country I'm America, America, America.

31:01

So America masturbates probably I wouldn't.

31:03

You saw Donald Trump. [inaudible]

31:07

. Do we just go? I say and you say

31:09

something about Donald Trump, you missed it. You missed the meme. Y

31:11

ou k now, he'd be jerking off ghost P

31:15

eter macho, man. I

31:17

digress. I'm

31:20

g onna send y 'all. I'm gonna send you out to me. I g ot t o get a n Instagram.

31:27

No , I

31:34

was thinking about this the other day about

31:37

this got different realities

31:39

t hat w as going on Instagram based on your t

31:41

imeline.

31:42

Talk about it .

31:47

Timeline is all personal to you. I mean, you

31:51

know that

31:56

you talking about that w ould h ave never came up o

31:58

n m y t imeline.

31:59

You definitely saw it. I , I

32:02

have not seen Donald Trump . That's a fact

32:05

for me listening.

32:09

Go ahead bro. Go ahead. Anyway. I just

32:11

want to make a point anyway. I didn't see

32:13

my Donald Trump massive and you brought up jerking off.

32:17

So like I was saying, it's just a young country

32:19

that feels like it has so much to prove. So that's why it feels

32:21

like brakes are so taboo

32:23

because it's like, yo, if you taking breaks,

32:25

are you really going for yours? You know what I'm saying?

32:27

And I feel like that's just like an American stigma where

32:29

it's just, you feel compelled to compete

32:32

and constantly have to push toward competing

32:34

with other people in your circle. And at

32:36

the end of the day, nobody

32:38

don't really, you know what I'm saying?

32:40

Everyone gives zero . Nobody cares

32:43

all for show , big entertainment

32:45

game. Everybody is entertaining. I said this

32:47

the other day, I think I was speaking to the

32:49

woman that I asked you to hang up on . I

32:53

said, yo, like, how

32:55

would you describe Donald Trump on the

32:57

television to a child?

33:01

She said , I don't know. I would say, first of all, he's an actor

33:04

and he's acting and he's entertaining

33:06

us. That's what politics

33:09

is. It's entertainment, professional

33:12

wrestling.

33:15

There . We'll talk about that. Politics

33:18

as usual, you just got to make

33:20

them feel good. You know, it's all about making

33:22

somebody feel, you

33:24

know , you don't they'll buy it and it looks if you squint

33:27

not a one I need

33:29

just says , it's going to be all right. We just got a whole

33:31

hand. And

33:37

then you feel better than Donald Trump was basically like, it.

33:40

Get in line, stand down, all that . So

33:45

I'm not going to lie to you. I honestly feel as though

33:47

Donald Trump was a covert

33:50

blessing to this country and put facts

33:53

on it . And the reason

33:55

why I say that is because you

33:58

have to tear down before you rebuild . And

34:01

what Donald Trump has showed us is that

34:03

our country is still the same country

34:05

that we had back in 1770

34:09

somebody factors check for me, 1772 ,

34:13

[inaudible]

34:14

The 1770s, right ? He

34:16

showed us that we didn't

34:18

grow as far

34:21

as we do . Now. There's some things that we have the advantage

34:23

of one technology too

34:25

. We have things that we're able to do that

34:27

do not suppress our thoughts, fields

34:29

needs and how we contribute to our families.

34:32

But at the end of the day, the viewpoint of this country

34:34

has always been those on the bottom,

34:39

Held

34:39

Up those on the top. Who's one facts

34:42

on that.

34:43

So what do you think, do you think that white people

34:46

just found out more about it because black people didn't learn

34:48

none. Say that, say that one more time.

34:51

You think white people just learn because black people didn't learn

34:53

anything about during this Trump

34:55

campaign?

34:57

I think actually, yeah. I would say that I think

34:59

more of

35:00

Why people still think the same way or what

35:03

I think our country in total still thinks the same way. I still

35:05

think black people still think the same way. I still think my people

35:07

still think the way I still think , uh

35:09

, Spanish people still

35:11

say, think the way , same way. I'm not supposed to say Spanish

35:14

things . Don't say Latino, Latino, or Hispanic,

35:16

Latino, Hispanic. I think we all think the same

35:19

way. And that is the issue. So when other

35:21

countries I know we are speaking about other countries and taking a break.

35:23

So when other countries look at us, they're like,

35:25

, y'all ain't even C

35:29

anon. You went to South Africa and I'm, I'm

35:31

assuming that was a great experience. And

35:34

just the vibe, the vibe was,

35:38

Uh , it was everything was there, but I mean, just being

35:41

in a place, surrounded by everybody

35:44

being black leadership lead

35:46

teachers grew up

35:49

brochures like everybody top

35:53

to bottom white minority . It

35:55

was crazy in a big city.

35:58

Yeah. That just sounds like you for

36:00

you, to me. You know what I mean? But that's because I'm

36:02

biased because of my ,

36:04

The actors or the commercials,

36:07

Black excellence. What

36:10

is that? What is black excellence? Excellence. Why isn't

36:12

it just excellence? I'm sorry guys. I had,

36:15

I had to do it. Nah,

36:24

Because it's separate

36:26

Black is better, but separate

36:29

doesn't eat separate. Doesn't equate to equal.

36:31

I'm not supposed to use it equate an equal, but you get

36:33

the . I'm saying.

36:34

Yeah, no it does .

36:37

I think that's an opinion . All right . So another

36:40

quick question for you guys, Jay, I'm going to toss this out to you.

36:43

Cause I know we did speak about just the difference in terms

36:45

of how the world views taking a break

36:47

and how society views taking a break. We also talked

36:49

about the difference of us just

36:52

as men sitting here and

36:54

saying, I'm going to take a break, not only from Instagram,

36:56

but things that we need to do to rejuvenate. He said

36:59

that. Correct. So my

37:01

major question to you guys as just

37:04

more on a social level, you

37:06

guys know what it's a battle is , right? Yes

37:09

. Coming from the neighborhoods that you guys came from, did

37:11

you always have the opinion that a sabbatical

37:14

was more of a rich man's luxury?

37:16

Did you ever feel that you can just take a

37:18

break from work to

37:21

we group or take care of your mental health? Jamie

37:23

, I'm going to kick it to you. Um, um,

37:25

great question. I've never,

37:28

I've only heard about a sabbatical in passing.

37:30

I didn't really know what it was. Cause I've always

37:33

one time I heard about it. I thought it was, Oh, go

37:35

to Europe and do research

37:38

or write a paper about your experience. So I

37:40

was like, Oh, you just go somewhere and write an essay. Cool.

37:43

Um, I just never really thought about that as something

37:45

that , uh, that black people

37:47

or people of color did. I just felt like that was more

37:49

of a privileged, which is probably

37:52

the accurate word. It's more of a, you could do that

37:54

from a place of privilege because while

37:57

you're on a sabbatical, how a bills getting paid

37:59

Howard's things getting done. I feel like nobody's

38:02

paying to do a sabbatical.

38:04

Yeah . So I work . Oh,

38:07

you paid from your job to take off. I

38:10

didn't know. That's how it worked. Oh, you know, that's why

38:12

we're here.

38:13

Okay.

38:15

You know , any people that have done sabbaticals? Yes . I

38:18

know a few people actually black. No

38:20

, not a single black person. No. Wow.

38:27

What about you, Ken ? How do you

38:29

feel about sabbaticals? Uh

38:32

, like I said earlier, man articles

38:35

is just sometimes like it's mine , right?

38:38

All about a mile . Right? You sacrifice one

38:41

thing so that you can get to the other .

38:45

Uh , that's a , that's a great point for all

38:48

our listeners that don't know Ken

38:50

is on the move OTM. He's

38:53

on, he's on the move. So it's not you , uh

38:56

, it's not your car. It's not anything

38:58

in your house. It's just that Canon

39:00

is on the moon. But it was very important for us to get

39:02

Canon on him because this is a very important topic for him to talk about

39:06

being that he is a law

39:09

student, graduate passes bar . He is certified

39:12

lawyer. I would probably

39:14

say out of all of us, I think he knows how to manage

39:16

his time. More than most

39:18

of us. Because the, the

39:20

uphill climb that

39:22

You had to endure,

39:24

You had to have some sort of break or put yourself in

39:26

a place where you can sit back and go

39:28

back into, is that something of an accurate statement,

39:31

Kenny ?

39:32

I mean, I would say it's accurate and you gotta be able

39:34

to just juggle a lot of things, different,

39:36

different mindsets, the different places,

39:38

different times. Um,

39:42

and you always on the move, man , you gotta have a calendar. You

39:44

know about that though , man , we

39:46

talked about the calendar calendar

39:49

, our calendar.

39:51

If you even talk to me and you make any

39:54

sort of inference to

39:56

us doing something, tell

39:58

me Tyrone, put it on the calendar. Because

40:00

if you don't tell me that, I'll be honest with you probably

40:06

won't happen. I'm going to ask you, for instance, if you

40:08

say, are we going to meet at

40:10

a certain time to do something? Let's just say on

40:12

a Friday. And I'm like, yeah,

40:15

I don't know you showing up. And

40:18

then you say, I don't know if

40:20

it's not on the calendar. We both don't know. That's

40:23

just how I figured it out in mine , personal

40:25

opinion. But thank you Canada for that, man. That's

40:28

huge. I think when we're talking about sabbaticals,

40:30

it's important for everybody to know that

40:32

it's there for us to utilize when we have it in Jamie,

40:35

please look up sabbaticals, bro . Ah , I'm actually,

40:38

I feel like I'm on a sabbatical now . What

40:40

do you mean expand on that bro? Since, so

40:43

I wasn't, I wasn't, I'm not working at this current

40:45

point in time and I feel like it's

40:47

a very healthy therapeutic break

40:49

being, this is the first break I've had since like

40:53

five, six, seven years ago. So

40:56

I think I'm going to say like, like everybody

40:58

I've been talking to take the rest of the year off,

41:01

nice sabbatical minus the paper and a paycheck

41:03

and just kinda reset

41:06

recharge Heidi, ho

41:09

Heidi, Heidi.

41:11

Sometimes that's good to see. Okay.

41:13

Well , do I want to go next? I

41:16

want to, how do I want to read re

41:18

attack and reapproach? You

41:21

know , professors do it all the time, but they

41:23

generally come back with some more information. You

41:25

know, if there's a bad , they gain knowledge

41:27

about something and now they bringing it back

41:30

to where they can leave , you know, do they stop

41:32

it?

41:34

Yeah. And as I mentioned, man, it's something

41:36

for, this is some knowledge for those that's out there

41:38

that feel as though your job on support. That's

41:41

about uncle closed mouths. Don't get

41:43

fed. I'm gonna put facts on that . A

41:46

closed mouth just does not get fed wrong . Just

41:50

it's not a thing that's like literally impossible.

41:56

Like unless you got a straw,

41:59

But your mouth is closed though . Got to open

42:00

That. Still got to open that up. It's

42:03

just a fact, man. I'm just, I'm just letting you guys know that,

42:06

but the transition not so quickly, but to

42:08

be a little bit more conscious,

42:11

we did speak on or we tapped on a few

42:13

things, but we're basically

42:15

talking about our mental health and

42:17

how we are as men a nd our mental health and

42:20

the stigma behind explaining

42:22

well how our mental health impacts us. So

42:25

Ken, let me ask you this question, man. First of all,

42:27

how i s your mental health,

42:30

The mental health. Isn't a great place. You know,

42:32

our mental health is active

42:35

though. You know what I'm saying? It's vigilant, vigilant,

42:39

always trying to save guard and

42:41

make sure that in itself,

42:43

in a position to stay healthy because

42:47

you know, things can happen and you get knocked off,

42:50

knocked off the square. So

42:53

I say mental health is in a great place.

42:56

So how does that

42:59

positive mental health impact your relationships?

43:01

Not only with your girl, your

43:03

family, how was that impacting you?

43:06

And Jay , I'm gonna ask you because you're

43:10

in a new endeavor. So with

43:13

this new Headspace that you're in,

43:15

can you honestly say it's been better for your relationship

43:17

and if it has not won, it's

43:19

been very, very, very

43:22

good. And one of the main reasons

43:24

is because transitioning,

43:26

essentially we went from swapping

43:29

out roles. It was like, you know, at the point,

43:31

at one point I was working, she wasn't working

43:33

and now we essentially freaky Friday.

43:35

Now I'm working. She's not. And to me, that's

43:37

exactly what we , we just needed a change

43:40

in position just to switch it up because

43:42

now we can appreciate things from

43:45

each other's perspective. So now I understand

43:47

what it's like to be in her shoes. And now she understands

43:49

what it feels like to be in my shoes. And I think to

43:52

me, the ultimate purpose of the ultimate

43:54

way to achieve enlightenment is to experience

43:56

things. So now that

43:58

she went from , um, so

44:00

now that we're kind of switch up these roles, I think

44:03

for me, I've learned so many things

44:05

and now I actually get a chance to reset

44:07

recharge rebuild. So that this

44:09

way, when I do come back, I'm coming back even

44:11

more stronger, kind of to the point you were saying Canon

44:13

about a sabbatical, like you come back more informed,

44:16

more learned, understanding things from

44:18

a different perspective. Like there's the only way

44:20

to do that is to actually go

44:23

out and be open to the , to the messages

44:25

out there. You know what I'm saying? So

44:28

I think that that's yes, and my mental

44:30

health is great shape.

44:33

Happy for your brother. Me too. It's

44:35

been a long time coming, bro. I'm happy for your brother

44:37

. I can see the difference in just approach

44:39

and behavior. You know what I'm saying? Like

44:41

I've seen the difference in how

44:44

you communicate. I've seen the difference

44:46

in how you approach different things. So

44:48

I think this little sabbatical is doing praise for you.

44:50

I'm going to be honest with you, bro. I

44:53

appreciate that . Heavenly , heavenly,

44:56

a . Just

44:58

smile from ear lobe to Nipsey

45:04

. No . Nice smile , bro

45:06

. It looked like you had 240,

45:08

70 who

45:10

the got 247 since

45:19

y ou're the host. I need t hat. I f eel like it's imperative. We ask

45:21

y ou h ow's your mental health? My brother, my

45:23

mental health has increased in the last

45:26

four months. I can honestly say i t to be

45:28

perfectly honest with you. I think at

45:30

certain points in time, I was pushing myself through

45:32

a brick wall and I told this to everybody

45:35

that I've come in contact with. I

45:38

just needed a break, man. I

45:40

needed to reset. I needed to recharge.

45:42

I needed to take a step away and work on

45:45

the little things, the routine getting

45:47

up in the morning, t he making breakfast,

45:49

the meditating, the relaxing

45:51

to washing my . You

45:55

see what I'm saying? Like I needed those

45:57

things in order for me to

45:59

take on other things on my plate. So

46:01

for so long, I had so much other things on

46:03

my plate. I came last who

46:06

, and I'm a person that can do

46:08

all things, but

46:11

what is doing all things, preparing

46:13

yourself to do it because you could be in

46:15

a room and you can get the

46:17

work done. But then when everybody leaves,

46:21

they go to sleep well and you were chilling,

46:24

not even chilling, sweating, because now you

46:26

have to maintain that level of excellence,

46:28

right? That you put out there. So

46:31

my mental health, I would

46:33

say has quadrupled in

46:36

the last four months

46:39

I went, got

46:41

a little doctor's note, told

46:43

him like, Hey man, I'm suffering from anxiety.

46:46

And I believe I have symptoms of depression.

46:49

Very simple process. I'll

46:51

be honest with you. I just sat down and I was honest

46:53

with them . I was just like, y'all just need a break. Just give me like

46:56

four weeks, bro. Let me set

46:58

my time back a little bit like

47:00

with daylight savings and

47:03

let me come back a little stronger. He

47:06

said , all right , go ahead and fill out this

47:08

paperwork. Make sure you do this. I was like, it's that

47:10

easy? That's crazy. I was like , yeah man,

47:12

I did this last week. I was like,

47:15

the s ystem set up like t his as a grown man,

47:17

as a black man, I feel like I always

47:19

had to put a lot of stuff on my s houlders. I

47:21

had to put the world on my shoulders. I

47:24

had to put not only the world, but the entire

47:26

universe can. And K ate, can you empathize

47:28

with

47:31

Absolutely. I mean, you

47:34

know , y'all y'all know the struggle I had that , you

47:36

know, going to school. No

47:39

, no real transportation at all. And

47:43

you know, being away from home, man

47:45

, everything that's coming

47:48

the world right in everyday life.

47:53

And I feel like when

47:55

I got that

47:58

awareness, I

48:00

need to be healthy . Your body, you

48:02

know, the same way that we think

48:04

about our physical health. It's

48:06

the way that I think about my mental

48:08

health. It's not two separate

48:11

places. It's all within the same body

48:13

and you just gotta work on it the same way. It's

48:18

not like you don't

48:21

Um , I'm a , I'm a put facts on that for you, Kenny .

48:25

Yeah. You just pray it up like a muster , right

48:27

? What's the physical health. Why ? Okay. Why did

48:29

you work out wanting to run ? I need eat

48:31

better. I need to feed my body

48:34

retrained better. Same thing for your brain.

48:36

Really your mind, you know, mitzvah

48:38

and the mind will, do you

48:41

know what you think? Thinking

48:43

on a daily basis, taking

48:46

things in and processing because

48:49

believe it or not, man, that has more of a effect

48:51

. I

48:58

mean , that's , that's definitely where I'm at. Man. I'm

49:00

reading this book right now. It's uh , uh,

49:03

uh, breaking the habit

49:06

of being yourself. I'm breaking the

49:08

habit of being yourself , but

49:10

just talking about the way that your mind controls everything

49:13

from your body, it's

49:15

the beginning and end of

49:17

what you can accomplish and what you can find

49:19

it . So

49:24

What was that about

49:27

Doctor dr. Joe Manasseh

49:30

?

49:31

I told you , I thought I was going to say dr. Joe buttons. Is

49:35

that good ?

49:44

I haven't heard it pronounced. I just didn't read.

49:47

Gotcha . First of all, man,

49:49

I'm like a hundred percent happy for you. I'm

49:51

130% happy for you. I couldn't be

49:53

more happy for you, but what I'm more happy

49:56

about is that you have to understand and

49:58

have that right. And we've grown

50:00

into certain places and

50:02

going backwards. Isn't the thing I heard somewhere.

50:04

Somebody told me a long, long,

50:07

long time ago. No , no,

50:09

no, no, no

50:14

, no . Time ago they told me onward and upward.

50:18

And if you embody that, I

50:21

think you will be okay.

50:24

So I think at this point in time, man , I

50:27

think I th I think it's

50:28

Important for us to , to transition

50:30

into facts. Man, got a chance to listen

50:32

into facts because facts as part of our daily life.

50:42

[inaudible] ,

50:45

I'm sorry. I'm just, I just liked it. I just liked

50:47

the song . Sorry. One

50:49

fact I really have on this and excuse

50:52

cannon , man. Um, I'm just gonna, I'm

50:54

gonna let you know the facts before we get in. I

50:56

know you move it around, but I'm gonna let you know the facts

50:58

as we get in, when

51:01

you're building a personal brand. The

51:04

worst thing you could do is take

51:06

an extended break. Momentum

51:09

is everything

51:18

You gotta keep

51:21

going .

51:39

That's it? That's it. That's a hundred percent of fat

51:41

. Don't be complacent, man. Complacency

51:44

is death, man . Big facts. You

51:46

can acknowledge, you know what I mean?

51:48

You could celebrate, but

51:51

don't you ever, ever

51:53

become complacent ever.

51:57

So Jay , what what'd you what'd you think about that? I totally

51:59

agree. I mean, when it comes to building a brand,

52:01

it's like, like we always talk about like the train

52:03

train got to keep moving the train, got

52:05

to keep on going , because always say that . Yeah

52:08

. Cause at the end of the day, people are watching the train.

52:10

They waiting for the train. They like, Oh

52:12

the train just left, but it will be back. You know what I'm saying?

52:14

Cause they , they rely on that train. And

52:16

I think that's a totally true statement.

52:19

I mean, we from New York. So you know, when that training

52:21

running, when that training

52:23

running and he called it in the mother , if you go cold,

52:25

you'd be upset. Sometimes you underground.

52:28

Sometimes you outside in the cold and you

52:30

late and you late might get fired.

52:32

Now, now you're just in a whole world of trouble.

52:35

So I mean, if you building up a brand, it's like,

52:37

especially in the early stages you had , you gotta

52:39

, you gotta know like, yo, this is going to be

52:42

for the long haul, like at least another

52:44

two year stint of like, yo

52:46

go no brakes . So

52:48

let me ask you this question though, your personal brand and the

52:50

reason why I said personal brand, because we all are

52:52

a brand, right? And when

52:54

you represent something towards somebody else

52:56

and you give that , um,

52:59

capability to others,

53:01

that breaking momentum can have

53:03

people judge you. It

53:06

really can because now they're not getting

53:08

what they expect. They expect. So Canon

53:11

has that ever happened to you where you

53:13

need to take a break from your

53:15

personal brand, but it has hindered

53:18

you from certain relationships in your life .

53:21

Yeah. I mean being

53:25

somebody who can do so many things

53:28

for so much energy into something

53:31

that you can't, it's

53:33

kind of hard to be everywhere or be everyone

53:36

be everything to everyone. So

53:39

that's kind of where you got to take a break and the volleyball

53:41

, keeping that balance back , you

53:43

got to balance work, play

53:48

family, because there's

53:51

only one of you.

53:59

I would, I would, I would, I would definitely agree with that

54:01

man. Like I had , uh , I had a , I

54:03

had a huge thing about taking a break from

54:05

things. And that's only because I feel as though the momentum

54:08

stops and then people want to with you.

54:10

That was a fear of mine. And that led to a lot of

54:12

anxious moments a nd anxious nuts. If I

54:14

stopped doing this, if I s topped posting

54:17

or if I stop being

54:20

all things to all people, how is

54:22

everyone going to look at me now T failed

54:25

o r n ot T don't fail 1 0, never f

54:27

ail a day in his life. you talk back T

54:29

fail. Don't

54:33

fail T out here in these streets,

54:36

you know what they call me? Don't you T

54:38

Lou do what to do. I can't call myself that and

54:41

his ain't get done. That makes sense to you. Not

54:43

at all. It don't make sense, but I had to realize

54:47

y ou g ot a nd take a break.

54:49

The break is going to have you set up from what CT

54:51

was saying, w here C anon was saying, i ts break is going to

54:53

set you up for success. I

54:57

t's t he fact on that? Can I put i t b ack? Yes, s

54:59

ir. F at, hold on, hold on,

55:01

Kenny. We can't hear you, bro. We can't hear you bro. Say, say that one more

55:03

time by t hem.

55:08

You got to pour back into yourself and the break

55:10

is as

55:12

long as you haven't sent it, right?

55:17

What do you mean by intention?

55:18

Well, like as

55:21

long as you know how long your break

55:23

is going to be, right? It's not

55:25

an indefinite break necessarily.

55:27

You get back to it or, you

55:29

know, it's like you , I'm taking a break

55:31

and fill out X , but

55:34

not having an end date because you know, you got to get back

55:36

to it. Especially if you work in for right,

55:40

you can have intermittent breaks. There's something

55:42

that's going to be forever. Right? People get married forever.

55:45

But a

55:48

break in that instance would be something like, you know, I

55:50

just need some time with the fellows. I need to sign with the

55:52

ladies or I just need some time

55:56

to do my board or something like that. It doesn't

55:58

have to be because you know, you got to come back, you

56:00

don't come back stronger and better. Don't gotta

56:02

be forever.

56:09

Yeah, I do that all the time. I ain't gonna lie

56:11

to you. I'm gonna put facts on that.

56:13

I know that.

56:16

Yeah . Breaking me in anything and then people. But

56:18

I think that's the part that that's the perception. If

56:21

you take a break, people like, Oh man, it's like,

56:23

they don't expect

56:24

This person or they don't expect you to come back.

56:27

Um, and that's kind of like the fear, like, Aw , that's why people

56:29

don't like other people taking breaks. But

56:31

I think

56:32

That's probably what it was . Yeah.

56:35

Words matter, bro.

56:37

Lives matter. Black lives matter. Black

56:39

lives matter

56:40

And words matter. Two things can be the same.

56:43

Two things can be true. Two things.

56:48

Two

56:48

Things can be the same. Right? Cannon

56:54

Two things can be the same. Right ?

56:56

That's a fact we can put facts on. That's a big fact

56:58

, Another

57:03

fact that I had, and I wanted to bring to the table for

57:05

you guys, just speaking about breaks

57:07

and other people coming to you for certain things,

57:10

I had this big people. I have the big problem

57:13

with people. If

57:15

I had all the answers you

57:18

wanted, ask me everything that you may

57:20

not . The reason why you're asking me this question

57:23

is because you may or may not think that

57:25

I have the answers .

57:28

Right, right.

57:32

Or they want to know the answer, but you want to ask me

57:34

unless you thought I either had the answer or I

57:36

didn't have the answer for you to go look for the . A

57:42

whole nother topic. Cause I feel like it's 20, 20.

57:45

What does you mean? Don't be asking questions. Don't ask

57:47

questions . I feel, Oh , here's

57:50

my thoughts, Ken

57:52

. And hear me on this. I feel like Canada's going to grow [inaudible]

57:59

because at the end of the, with the exception of like feelings

58:01

and thoughts, like I can't, I don't know

58:03

what you think. I don't know what you feel. I have to ask

58:05

you that when it comes to just like facts

58:07

and information, I

58:09

think you should be able to at least access

58:12

the information to have the

58:14

ability, to know which questions to ask. Because I

58:16

feel like sometimes people just come with a blank slate

58:19

layout . How you, how you turn on the PlayStation.

58:21

I hate that.

58:21

Did you read? I hate that . Did you,

58:23

Did you, how do you make them a Hito did you try

58:26

Google? How do you get to the post office?

58:28

You Google it. What time? The post office calls you ain't

58:30

Google it. It's 20, 20,

58:32

the noise in the world, b

58:35

ro. But at the end of the day, if you thought about

58:38

it, i f, if every time somebody asks you

58:40

something and you like, did you Google it? Like Google, Google

58:42

the b ulletins. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo,

58:44

how you feeling today? That's not G

58:46

oogle-able you know what I m ean? But if there's things that are G

58:48

oogle, b ro, d on't b e asking me Google

58:50

a bout d ance.

58:57

That's when you start asking questions

58:59

To the, to a degree most until

59:01

I'm proven wrong. I can't think of it . You

59:03

Google bro feelings and thoughts. Like I can't,

59:06

I can't Google what you thought when or

59:08

how I'd said something made you feel. So

59:10

I'm supposed to only ask questions

59:12

that relate to a feeling or a thought. That's

59:14

my thoughts. That's my thoughts. That's my feelings.

59:19

Facts. Cause

59:21

at the end of the day,

59:22

Bro, we in the information age, yo,

59:24

we are the first like where'd

59:26

the first set of people will be able to have like the

59:28

information in our hands at

59:30

a speed. That's unfathomable.

59:33

Like the bro. Think about it. Like dang , I could

59:35

build a whole car easily. I know how to change

59:37

my oil and change a tire off of Google.

59:39

So you YouTube, Google couple is

59:42

Google-able YouTube. You know what

59:44

I'm saying? Like information's

59:46

out there. All you gotta do is know

59:48

what to ask.

59:52

Just take the temporary .

59:53

Take the time it's out there. Reading

59:55

is fundamental. I want to say it's fundamental.

59:58

And I hate when people ask me questions w here I'm like, yo bro,

1:00:00

it's in the description. I ain't r

1:00:02

eading. Oh my God. L ike the podcast

1:00:05

is up. O h the p odcasts up. Where's it at? It says

1:00:07

Apple p odcast. Google

1:00:09

p odcast. Oh, we're on Pandora. By

1:00:11

the way. We're on iHeart radio.

1:00:14

U h, all you have to do is say,

1:00:17

Hey, Google play the c ubby podcast.

1:00:19

And it's g oing t o play the cup. H old, hold on.

1:00:21

Hopefully. Okay, good. You

1:00:23

know what I mean, technology, man. You g ot t o love it. Technology.

1:00:26

Y ou always l istening bro.

1:00:31

This man.

1:00:36

Oh dog

1:00:39

sign . You can't

1:00:43

[inaudible]

1:00:44

I'm like that. Right before we finished sprout treads

1:00:46

and Davis, dreads

1:00:49

, Davidson, Bron . They got size three Pete

1:00:51

, they got three

1:00:54

Pete bro. I

1:00:58

was about to say it is LA , but he was already in

1:01:00

LA VP Crib

1:01:07

three peat bro. Three peat

1:01:09

. And they got shorter.

1:01:17

Three-peat two

1:01:21

years .

1:01:22

Two years at what? $7.

1:01:24

19 million. That's the deal right now. That's

1:01:27

crazy bro . Bro

1:01:29

,

1:01:31

Hold up . There

1:01:38

was no break. Like you said , you had to take a little

1:01:41

LA break.

1:01:50

We all know that. Take a little break though.

1:01:53

Hi man. I think this is a perfect transition to go to my favorite

1:01:55

section of the p od. C

1:01:58

an you know what I call t his section? Love

1:02:01

i s

1:02:09

[inaudible] .

1:02:11

Yeah , I think we get pretty good with these transitions

1:02:15

are amazing by the way, bro. Y ou've been practicing. I've been practicing.

1:02:18

First of all, thank you for noticing.

1:02:20

Uh , second of all, you're a godsend . Third

1:02:25

of all. I appreciate

1:02:27

you , man. I'm gonna have my I'm gonna have my man

1:02:29

that's on the move go first. Uh , for those

1:02:31

that don't know what the love is. Love section is about

1:02:34

because we were on a little hiatus, Heidi,

1:02:36

Heidi, the

1:02:39

love and love section is basically we

1:02:41

get together and we leave off the podcast.

1:02:44

But just as love as love statement, man, what is love to

1:02:46

you? You know, something positive to

1:02:48

give to the people. You know, we've been talking about today

1:02:50

and that's what we supposed to do as five

1:02:52

black professional men in this society, we're pulled

1:02:55

in all different, different directions. So if we could just come together,

1:02:57

drink a little bit, smoke a little bit,

1:03:00

get a c up of W's i n two K it

1:03:03

ain't nothing. You see what I'm saying? But we have

1:03:05

to give a love as love statement for the

1:03:07

people. It's for the culture like, l ike J

1:03:09

esus, h e said on stage the other day, w e doing

1:03:12

this f or t he c oach

1:03:15

For the culture.

1:03:16

So I'm a , I'm a kick it to cannon . Man. You say

1:03:18

you love his love statement as you want

1:03:20

to move.

1:03:22

Yeah, man, I was just saying, get

1:03:29

this money, rinse and repeat.

1:03:38

That's cold it in Detroit.

1:03:44

I'm practicing ,

1:03:44

Practicing. I mean this first of all [inaudible]

1:03:50

I did, I did.

1:04:00

Must've been a mistake.

1:04:06

[inaudible]

1:04:07

J was your love is loves David bro. Yo,

1:04:10

my love is love statements. And since we told them about

1:04:12

rinses and repeats , um, mine

1:04:14

is something I said before, but I think it's very fitting

1:04:16

to I'm taking breaks. Yo

1:04:19

um, you gotta breathe, stretch,

1:04:22

shake. Let it go. Let that

1:04:24

saying go. And the reason why that's so

1:04:26

important is because when you do take that break, sometimes

1:04:29

it's all you gotta do is just take a nice deep breath.

1:04:31

Like earliest day was working out. We just have

1:04:33

our breathing routines. It was just like, all right , get back

1:04:35

on the horse and you breathe, stretch.

1:04:38

Do what? When stretch means whatever it is to get loose.

1:04:41

Let that go get right

1:04:43

back to it. So I think a b reathe, stretch

1:04:45

shake. Let it go. Shout out to Pinto

1:04:48

a nd o ut. A nd Alex slash Pinto, my people

1:04:50

down in Atlanta. Shout it out. I posted

1:04:52

t hat on t he Instagram a few months ago. So follow

1:04:55

through . Y 'all not everything.

1:05:04

[inaudible]

1:05:04

What's the CST . Mine is always the same and never change

1:05:07

it . Comedy is life. Life

1:05:10

is comedy is comedy. Like just

1:05:13

use those three words. You'll be all right , man.

1:05:15

You got to decide to got to

1:05:17

decide.

1:05:19

It's a choice. Just

1:05:21

like any relationship you choose

1:05:23

to be in this. You got to choose that

1:05:26

because you're gonna cry. You're gonna get

1:05:28

mad. You're going to have all those other emotions, but

1:05:30

you choose to laugh. And if I

1:05:32

can be a vessel for

1:05:34

you to laugh, I'm cool with it. I ain't, I ain't with

1:05:36

you. It's just T T

1:05:39

l ittle dude w ith a d ude. So t hat that's

1:05:41

that's my love is love statement and

1:05:44

I think this i s a great c omeback guys. I

1:05:47

think it was something that we did. We had some new items

1:05:50

you feel good about? L ove it. Feel good. If

1:05:54

u h, if you guys haven't heard, we have

1:05:56

a few more episodes that's out right now.

1:05:59

U h, we have a t hree-part series. Go check

1:06:01

it out, go check it out. It's called.

1:06:03

I always have something to do with one of our, our

1:06:05

good friends to the podcast. You guys know who was on it?

1:06:08

Yes ma'am yes, sir. Ma'am

1:06:13

I don't even know where

1:06:15

I'm starting to kick t hat Can

1:06:19

and driving and I'm over here just doing work.

1:06:24

Uh, yeah, go check it out. Act at rock

1:06:26

rock, and Robin , I may have screwed that

1:06:28

up, but check it out on all platforms. She

1:06:30

did a great job. She did a great job. He was

1:06:32

speaking about everything, everything,

1:06:36

everything I found out a lot about me

1:06:39

and how our relationship started. You found

1:06:41

out a lot about how she views men

1:06:43

, um , and how I view women in

1:06:45

that space and just her just being loose and

1:06:47

being alive . So if you haven't checked it out already, please

1:06:49

go check it out. But I'm going to go ahead and close out the show

1:06:52

as always love is

1:06:54

love facts.

1:06:58

Let's talk about it. Yes , sir .

1:08:11

[inaudible] .