In this episode Nafeez speaks with Mike Lofgren, a former U.S. congressional staff member who served on the House and Senate budget committees & is the best-selling author of ‘The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of a Shadow Government’ and asks how should we think about the Deep State.

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SHOW NOTES

‘Republican insider: Trump is creating Deep State 2.0, but it might crash the economy’ by Nafeez Ahmedhttps://goo.gl/5BXgOy

‘How the Trump regime was manufactured by a war inside the Deep State’ by Nafeez Ahmedhttps://goo.gl/9YCiXZ

http://mikelofgren.net

'Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens' by Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Pagehttps://goo.gl/Bh5662

Edited by Dean PuckettArtwork by Lucca Benney & Abby MartinProduction support by Gareth Newnham

Release date: March 3rd 2007Duration: 49:58