On the tenth episode of The Constitutionalist, Shane Leary and Dr. Benjamin Kleinerman are joined by Hans Zeiger, President of the Jack Miller Center, and former Washington State House Representative and State Senator. They discuss the role of civic education in constitutional preservation, the burgeoning civic education movement in higher education, and the unique role the Jack Miller Center plays in coordinating and contributing to these efforts.

The Constitutionalist is a podcast cohosted by Professor Benjamin Kleinerman, the RW Morrison Professor of Political Science at Baylor University and Founder and Editor of The Constitutionalist Blog, and his student, Shane Leary. Each week, they discuss political news in light of its constitutional implications, and explore a unique constitutional topic, ranging from the thoughts and experiences of America's founders and statesmen, historical episodes, and the broader philosophic ideas that influence the American experiment in government.