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4:32

about his documentary that just covers so

4:35

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4:37

cut out tons of stuff just to

4:39

make it consumable for people. Did I

4:41

say that right? Consumable for people. And

4:43

I'll tell you what friends, this was

4:45

a fantastic conversation that I had with

4:47

him. The highlight for me was getting

4:49

into the government and military involvement in

4:51

the sorcery and rituals. Jack Parsons, Alistair

4:53

Crowley, a lot of those guys getting

4:55

involved with government officials. We went into

4:58

that direction with this conversation and I

5:00

think it turned out great. And we

5:02

also covered the council of nine and

5:04

how that might tie into CERN and

5:06

the nine dead miners that might've been

5:08

possibly a sacrifice during that tunnel ceremony.

5:10

So let's get to our conversation right

5:12

now with Chad Riley, let's go. All

5:14

right, today we have

5:16

Chad Riley on the

5:19

show. Chad,

5:32

what's going on, man? What's going on, brothers?

5:34

Good to see you again. Yeah, man. Actually, I

5:36

think this is the first time you and I talk to

5:38

each other and looking at each other at the same

5:40

time because the last time you and I had a conversation

5:42

on the show, it was episode 132, Hollow

5:45

Earth and What Lives Within. It was you,

5:48

me, the Fall

5:50

Brothers and Jim Will, yeah,

5:53

Jim Will-Humpson. And man,

5:55

that show, like, first

5:58

of all, I'll tell you what, I still feel

6:00

like this a lot of times, but I really

6:02

felt back then, I mean, you

6:04

think 132 episodes, you got your gears

6:06

rolling. I still was feeling the whole

6:08

thing out. And, um, I

6:10

felt like I was a fish out of water during

6:13

that conversation. Cause like, you guys are going all over

6:15

these different directions. I was just like, I don't know,

6:17

just let them talk. I have no idea what they're

6:19

saying, but cool. And

6:22

that's how I feel a lot of times when I bring people on

6:24

that are smarter than me. Uh, so,

6:26

um, but that was

6:28

a long time ago, man. That was years ago.

6:30

And back then I didn't do any video. I

6:33

just did audio because I was like, I'm a

6:35

podcast or not a YouTuber, uh, fast

6:37

forward years later. And I'm like, well, I'm a YouTuber

6:39

now too. So, uh, we do

6:41

everything on video. So it's great to see you

6:43

friend. And, um, this

6:46

a man, like you're, you're somebody that

6:48

throughout the years, uh, has always been

6:50

popping up on mainly Facebook for me.

6:52

Uh, either people send

6:55

me a post that you, you made, or you'll,

6:57

I don't know if you have like a mass

6:59

email list or something, but I'll get a post

7:01

in my, my, my private messenger from you. And

7:03

it's just, just, you know, what's something.

7:05

And, uh, it's just always been like, man, I

7:07

gotta get Chad back on the show. And then,

7:09

uh, a few weeks back,

7:11

I, I stumbled across a video with you

7:13

and Derek Gilbert talking about your new documentary.

7:16

It's like, there's my open door. Let's

7:18

do this. So I want to open

7:20

up the conversation talking about the documentary and the

7:22

origins of it and how, you know, you got

7:25

involved in all this. And we'll see where the

7:27

conversation goes from there, but, um,

7:29

your new documentary, this is your first documentary,

7:31

correct? Yes. This is

7:33

my first solo project. And, uh, I see

7:35

that you've also, you've also jumped into the

7:38

field as well. Yeah. Yeah.

7:40

I, um, I don't even

7:42

know how I did that. I just, it just kind

7:44

of evolved and happened. Um, but you

7:46

know, it's just, it's one of those things where with

7:49

me and the show, what we're doing is, uh,

7:53

we're visiting locations where, you know, we talk

7:55

about these stories on the show. Why not

7:57

go to these locations that these things have

7:59

happened. And so I guess that's kind of how

8:01

it all started for us. And I just kind of happened

8:04

to stumble across guys in the field

8:06

that could really help me take the

8:09

story and bring it to life through video.

8:11

So it's been really cool, but, um, your

8:13

documentary, skin walkers and stranger things of the

8:15

unseen realm, you had me at stranger things

8:18

and the unseen realm, to be honest with

8:20

you. Uh, so I was like, when

8:22

I saw the title of it, I was like, this is

8:24

going to be good. And, uh, what

8:26

was the, what was the whole motivation behind

8:28

this documentary? I mean, like skin walkers and

8:31

the stranger things of the unseen realm, uh,

8:33

it seems like it could be a mixed

8:35

bag. Uh, when I look

8:38

at the word skin walkers though, I

8:40

automatically take the topic of skin

8:42

walkers and make it an interdimensional topic in my mind.

8:44

I don't know if that's where you, how you track

8:46

with it or what, but what was the motivation here?

8:49

Yeah, it started out, um,

8:52

uh, what was it? Uh, after

8:54

we had done higher entities, we'd gone to

8:56

visit with our friend Keith at end times

8:58

productions. And he had just

9:00

interviewed Justin and Wes. Um, I

9:03

just went, just went along for the

9:05

ride. I wasn't actually planning on getting them behind

9:07

the camera and, and being filmed, but he

9:09

was like, Chad, he goes, you know, so much, he's like,

9:11

get over here and talk about something. I'm like, I didn't even

9:13

prepare. I don't even know what you want me to talk

9:15

about. He's like, just get over here and talk about something. He's

9:18

like, talk about skinwalker ranch or some of that stuff. So

9:21

I did the interview with him and it

9:23

blew up and it was one of his

9:25

biggest interviews, uh, for the longest time.

9:27

And, um, I just started

9:29

digging deeper and deeper into skinwalker

9:31

ranch. And the more I dug

9:33

into it, uh, especially when I

9:35

got into this whole hitchhiker phenomenon,

9:38

that's what really just like blew

9:40

it wide open because that led

9:42

into, uh, remote

9:44

viewing and that took me

9:46

into alien abduction and encounters

9:48

and different things and brought

9:51

it got into Jack Parsons and

9:53

L Ron Hubbard and Alice to Crowley

9:55

and the Babylon working ritual and everything.

9:57

I mean, it just, just.

10:00

Kept rabbit rally into more things and

10:02

it's just like okay. This is all

10:04

completely 100% interconnected it's like

10:06

this is all one big thing and Yeah,

10:10

that's like I said, I had about 488

10:13

pages of notes that I had to condense down into 88

10:15

page script and It

10:18

was still what two and a half hours long.

10:20

So So there's

10:22

plenty of content for a part two and three. Oh

10:25

Yeah Yeah, so

10:28

how do you go from? skinwalker

10:30

ranch to the hitchhiker

10:32

effect to remote viewing so I Understand

10:36

the hitchhiker effect. I mean, you know,

10:38

we when we went to that area

10:40

we went to space wolf research which

10:43

borders skinwalker ranch and You

10:45

know Ryan the owner of that property had

10:48

told us about the idea of the skin

10:50

the hitchhiker effect and that you know We

10:52

might have something happen to us at

10:54

home months later Things

10:57

like that. But how do you go

10:59

from you know uncovering the hitchhiker effect?

11:01

I'm assuming connected to skinwalker ranch to

11:03

the remote viewing to Alistair

11:06

Crowley and Jack Parsons and all this

11:08

stuff. I mean it seems like a

11:10

quite a domino Effect

11:12

you had going there. I'm having a hard

11:14

time Connecting all those dots.

11:17

How does that happen for you? It's

11:19

funny that you bring up Ryan because just did an

11:22

interview with him about a couple months ago Really?

11:24

Yeah, he's a good friend and but

11:26

yeah the the thing about the hitchhiker

11:29

phenomenon is when you look into it,

11:31

especially Some

11:33

of the first people that were talking about

11:35

it in the book that Keller her and George

11:39

Nappet wrote they talked about Whenever

11:42

it was a character that they

11:44

named Axelrod who has now

11:47

been identified Who was

11:49

actually the boss of David Grush? Lou

11:52

Alessando and Travis Taylor

11:57

So, I mean the this

11:59

this gentleman was out there at Skinwalker

12:01

Ranch back before or right around the

12:03

time that Bigelow had just purchased it

12:05

and after he left there

12:07

something attached

12:10

him attached itself to him but it went

12:12

home and it was terrorizing his family and

12:15

the wife just happened to look out the back

12:18

window one morning and she saw

12:20

this gigantic eight-foot tall wolf

12:22

standing there on two hind legs staring

12:25

at her and I mean

12:27

it was like intently staring at her and

12:29

after a couple of minutes she said that

12:31

it just and it was holding its hand

12:34

you know its front legs up

12:36

like this it was had its arms crossed I'm

12:38

just sitting there just staring at her like you

12:40

know and after a couple minutes it put its

12:42

hands down by its side and walked off on

12:44

two legs and she

12:46

didn't say anything because she was like maybe

12:48

I just imagined that and she also didn't

12:50

want to freak her her kids out well

12:53

a couple days later her her kids just

12:55

happened to be back there by the back

12:58

sliding door and one of

13:00

them was walking by and he looked out the

13:02

window and he just gasped really loud so the

13:04

other one jumped up ran over like what what

13:06

is it and then they said there was again

13:09

standing there on two legs by this tree just leaned

13:11

up against the street just staring at him and

13:14

after a couple of minutes they said it took off running

13:16

down the road and they said it was kicking up leaves

13:18

running on two legs and

13:20

that's that's the thing you start looking into the

13:22

this whole hitchhiker phenomenon you never know what it

13:25

is you're gonna get because some

13:27

people get orbs some people get

13:29

shadow people some people get these

13:31

wolf creatures some people get

13:33

aliens bopping around in their house they

13:35

get the orbs UFOs you

13:37

just never know what it's gonna be

13:40

and how it tied into the whole thing

13:43

with remote viewing I found out that the

13:46

well let's at the

13:48

the remote viewers were some of the first

13:51

people that encountered it long before they ever

13:53

started talking about it Skywalker Ranch one

13:56

of the remote viewers that pure it's

13:59

brought over will was Yuri Geller. And

14:02

I know a lot of people probably have

14:05

heard of Yuri Geller about him bending spoons

14:07

and stuff like that, but he supposedly was,

14:12

not as powerful or as well known or

14:14

well added as like Ingo

14:17

Swine, Pat

14:19

Price, some of the even Joseph

14:21

McConickel and some of the other most well-known ones

14:23

that are in part of the programs. But

14:27

he was being studied by scientists.

14:30

They wanted to see if they

14:32

could measure or figure out how he was

14:34

doing, what he was doing as far as

14:36

being able to perceive things and gather information

14:39

from a distance. And

14:42

while they were measuring him

14:44

and studying how he was

14:46

doing this, the scientists that

14:48

were doing the measurements and studying

14:50

of him, they started encountering

14:53

the Hitchhiker phenomenon in their homes around

14:55

their families, they started seeing

14:57

cryptos, they started seeing shadow people and

15:00

orbs and different things going on in

15:02

their homes, even poltergeist activity. So

15:04

I was like, okay, that's

15:06

weird, that's really bizarre because you got it

15:08

now into the remote viewing as well. And

15:11

this has happened to several of them, but

15:14

Yuri Geller was probably the most well-known case.

15:16

And then I found out through

15:19

my digging deeper and deeper into

15:21

stuff that one of the

15:23

very first people to encounter the Hitchhiker

15:25

phenomenon was Kenneth

15:28

Arnold, who was the first

15:30

person who coined the phrase flying saucers, he

15:32

was the one who saw the nine craft

15:34

flying over a mountain near Washington. Well,

15:37

after he had his encounter

15:40

in his biography, he wrote that they

15:42

started having like poltergeist activity and bizarre

15:45

things going on around the home. Even

15:47

his daughter who went on and did

15:49

radio interviews said the same

15:51

thing, that there was all this

15:53

poltergeist activity and bizarre Hitchhiker phenomenon

15:55

going on in their home after

15:57

he had made the sighting. Man,

16:01

so what you're describing

16:03

seems to like, and maybe you have

16:05

a different perspective, but it seems like

16:08

when this kind of activity happens to

16:10

people, whether they're at Skinwalker Ranch, they're

16:13

doing remote viewing, or they happen to

16:15

have an encounter with UFOs, or it

16:18

seems like this is not like, one

16:21

plus one equals two kind of thing where, oh,

16:24

you were remote viewing, and that's why

16:26

the Hitchhiker effect happened. It's like, well,

16:28

you were at Skinwalker Ranch, and

16:30

that happened, and you had

16:33

an encounter with UFOs, and then

16:35

the Hitchhiker effect happened. It seems like there's

16:39

a lot of things that are gonna happen

16:41

in the environment that you're in that

16:44

these things can connect themselves to you.

16:46

It's not just, I think it's, people

16:48

wanna believe and think that, as long

16:51

as I don't touch a Ouija board,

16:53

I'm okay, nothing's gonna attach

16:55

itself to me, because I'm not doing anything,

16:58

but it sounds like, I mean, if

17:00

you just happen to stumble across something and

17:02

you have an encounter with UFOs, that

17:05

could open a door for the Hitchhiker effect. Is

17:07

that what you're saying? Yeah,

17:09

and that's the thing is that this

17:12

Hitchhiker phenomenon spreads like a virus. So

17:15

that's the thing is that it will spread out from

17:17

you to your family, to your

17:19

friends. It can even spread out to the

17:21

workplace and neighborhood that you live in. And

17:25

yeah, it's utterly

17:27

bizarre, but yeah, the... It

17:31

makes sense. I mean, if

17:34

you're having, let's

17:36

just use, I think you said Axelrod, is that his

17:38

name? Yeah, that was the character,

17:41

his name is Jay Stratton. He's been

17:43

identified now. Jay Stratton. Yeah,

17:46

well, you look into Jay Stratton, that's the

17:48

thing is like, that guy, he was part

17:50

of Naval Intelligence. I mean, he had so

17:52

many accolades. I had to cherry pick just

17:54

a few, and I was reading off for

17:56

almost a couple of minutes, just all the

17:58

different titles that that guy held. But

18:00

he, like I said, keep

18:03

in mind that he's the same guy that was

18:05

over Lou Elizondo. He was the

18:07

same guy over Travis Taylor, and he

18:09

was also over David Grush. So

18:11

this guy, he's very high

18:13

up on the food chain as far as

18:15

where all this stuff is going. And like

18:18

I said, he's tied in with Jacques Valet.

18:20

He's tied in with Gary Nolan. He's

18:23

tied in with goodness,

18:25

some how put

18:27

off. I mean, just tons of these people. He knows

18:30

all of them. He was part of

18:34

tied in with Bigelow and all them out there

18:36

at Skinwalker Ranch. I mean, he

18:38

knows lots of people, but like I

18:40

said, this guy, he's

18:42

the one that still goes around and

18:44

talks to all the senators and shows

18:46

them he's got all the goodies, all

18:49

the UFO footage, gives all the presentations.

18:52

And he knows more than anybody,

18:54

probably. That's

18:57

interesting. I got to get him on

18:59

for an interview. Good

19:01

luck, right? So

19:05

he has his, I

19:07

think you said it was him that saw the upright

19:09

wolf at the house, or no, his wife, right? And

19:11

then the kids saw it. So

19:14

you see the virus spread there. I

19:17

don't know if in that particular case, if

19:20

you have any information as to the domino

19:22

effect moving forward into other people, but it

19:24

does make sense that his,

19:27

one of the signs, he started seeing orbs

19:29

flying around in his bedroom and

19:31

he didn't say anything to any of his

19:33

friends, but he had friends that lived in

19:35

the neighborhood and they started seeing orbs in

19:37

their backyards. So like I

19:39

said, that's how they found out that it

19:41

was spreading. And then even Jay Stratton, one

19:43

of the ladies that he worked with, she

19:46

started having poltergast activity going

19:48

on and her house and

19:51

her roommate got so

19:53

terrorized by it that they just moved out

19:55

within a matter of days. So

19:57

yeah, it spread through the workplace, spread through

20:00

their children and their friends in

20:02

the neighborhood. And yeah, that's

20:04

wild. So it really is like a virus

20:06

and it, it's almost,

20:09

um, it's, it's very interesting. Cause

20:11

I never really considered the hitchhiker

20:13

effect on this kind of level.

20:16

Uh, and this, um, this

20:18

is something that maybe it

20:20

could be a big reason as to why

20:22

people have experiences that they have. Uh,

20:25

I mean, if people

20:29

unwittingly are around other people who have

20:31

had experiences or like, say you're working

20:33

with somebody who is, you know, playing

20:35

with the Ouija board and maybe they're,

20:38

they're into the dark arts. I mean,

20:40

that could have an effect on your

20:42

own life. Is that that's the correct

20:45

way of looking at that, right? Yeah,

20:48

that's completely the best way to look at it. And

20:50

I mean, especially some of the

20:52

stuff as far as like the shadow people, uh,

20:54

I don't know that, uh, there's an

20:57

interview or a news clip, uh, George

20:59

Knapp has done on his, uh, news

21:01

channel where he talks about

21:03

out of S2, these people, um, and the

21:06

military base out of S2, we're seeing these

21:08

shadow people running around on the bases and

21:10

stuff. And like I said, you

21:12

got some of these, uh, individuals. In fact,

21:14

the wife of Jay Stratton said that she

21:16

was seeing shadow people in their house walking

21:18

around. She would be laying in bed and

21:20

all of a sudden she would look up

21:22

and she would see the shadow person who

21:24

just literally walking across the room. I

21:27

mean, it's, it's all completely interconnected. Yeah.

21:30

You say as to that, um,

21:32

it brings a bell that's out near area 51,

21:34

right? Uh,

21:36

it's actually, I think in Las Vegas

21:38

or out close to Las Vegas. Okay.

21:40

Somewhere out there. I did a

21:43

show years ago and I think I called it

21:45

something area two and it was something to do

21:47

with a military base. And the guy, uh, he

21:50

had different stories of these UFOs

21:52

on the base, but, um, at

21:55

the towards the end, he talked about it wasn't

21:57

his direct, uh, experience. but it was

22:00

relayed to him. But

22:02

basically the Area 2

22:04

bass, I believe it was

22:06

the Area 2 bass, had, they

22:09

were doing some kind of

22:11

experiments and a, I don't

22:14

know how else to describe it

22:17

other than a mutated cat creature

22:19

that they created got

22:21

out and

22:24

it was a big thing on the bass. Like, I mean, they

22:27

don't know what happened to it kind of thing. So

22:30

I just, that rings a bell and I wonder if

22:32

it's the same bass or not. I don't remember, but.

22:35

It could be S20 because I know the S20 is

22:37

Dulce. Okay.

22:40

Yeah. So all these S2s, S20s, 20

22:44

Area Code 215, like, I'm

22:48

at a loss a lot of times. So

22:51

there's a clear for

22:54

a long time, and we've talked about this throughout

22:57

the years and the show, you know, I

22:59

think when we started the show, we speculated,

23:01

but then 2017 happened and it started becoming

23:04

like a, okay, yeah, this

23:06

is something where the government is

23:08

actively involved in this stuff. You

23:11

know, when they start doing the UFO

23:13

disclosure and that kind of fizzled

23:16

out towards the end of 2017, 2018, but

23:19

then kind of revamped up towards 2020. But

23:23

it's clear that there's this government involvement and

23:25

you're talking about, I wrote down

23:28

what you had said, Axel Rodd, I can't remember

23:30

his real name, but when

23:32

you talk about him and his involvement within

23:35

our own government, it shows

23:37

that there is this interconnected

23:40

twine of involvement. When

23:42

it comes to, you know, the

23:45

Pentagon and the

23:47

defense side of things, what

23:50

is their involvement when it comes

23:52

to maybe defense against these things?

23:56

Or are they more actively involved, do you

23:58

think, on a personal level where they're having

24:00

a response? relationship with this

24:02

phenomenon, you know, cause like

24:04

I think you and I can probably agree

24:06

that what's going

24:08

on is an interdimensional thing. And

24:11

is our government involved in a relationship

24:13

with beings from another realm or, or

24:15

how do you view that whole thing?

24:19

Well, according to the air forces,

24:22

they have a OSI's own investigation

24:24

that they had looked into the whole

24:27

thing about the UFO wave kicking off in

24:30

1947. Keep in mind

24:32

that this was Kenneth Arnold was the first

24:34

person that had the encounter where

24:36

he saw the nine craft. And then we had

24:38

less than two weeks later, you had the whole

24:40

Roswell incident that went down. But

24:45

one of the things that came

24:47

to light later on is that

24:49

Kenneth Arnold and Jack Parsons actually

24:51

were acquainted, acquainted with one another.

24:53

In fact, it there's

24:55

other investigators that have came out and said

24:58

that they were actually flying buddies and

25:00

that they knew one another very well. And

25:03

that they also had a very, another

25:06

connection that they had a good

25:08

friend that lived in Roswell named

25:10

Robert Goddard, who was also in

25:12

Robert Rocket Technology. In

25:14

fact, he also worked or did

25:16

his experiments before he moved to

25:19

Roswell. He did them in

25:21

the exact same place where Jack Parsons

25:23

and his suicide squad did all their

25:25

tests, which was Devil's Gate Dam. So

25:29

it's like I said, you just start

25:31

seeing all these complete connections going

25:33

back and forth. But again, getting back

25:35

to Sam Bruno and his investigation with

25:39

the Air Force Office of Special

25:41

Investigations, the AFOSI, they

25:44

started digging into it.

25:46

And what really got them digging into

25:48

Parsons was when he worked for Howard

25:50

Hughes, he'd already lost his

25:53

top secret clearance. And then he

25:55

was, he regained his clearance. But

25:58

when he worked for Howard Hughes,

26:00

He took classified documents without permission

26:04

and that's what got them really digging into

26:06

him And when they started digging into him

26:08

San Bruno and his People

26:11

that were under him They

26:13

started making all these connections that he's tied

26:15

up into some sort of a satanic cult

26:18

He started looking into the whole thing about the

26:20

Lima and the OTO the Ordo templary on us

26:23

and They quickly realized

26:25

that you know, this is there's more

26:27

to this and what you know, we

26:29

even realized they

26:33

In keeping mind, you know, we're talking

26:35

about Elrond Hubbard who created Scientology and

26:38

that's another one of

26:40

these things that just kept coming up in the Research

26:43

that I was doing was that one

26:45

of the biggest things that I found out

26:47

that Blew my mind when I

26:49

came across this information Was

26:52

that a vast majority of

26:54

these remote viewers were all Scientologists

26:58

so you got ingos one and

27:00

you got how put off they were both OT7s

27:03

that's the highest rank you can hold

27:05

in Scientology and Come

27:07

to find out that this is where they

27:10

were learning the techniques for remote viewing. It

27:12

was coming out of Scientology well now that

27:14

you know who Created

27:16

Scientology and that he was part of

27:18

the Lima and part of this audio

27:21

temple area honest That

27:23

this is where they were getting these techniques

27:25

that they were using for remote viewing so

27:28

it's like the you know, the

27:30

more the Air Force was digging into him

27:32

and and and all the people that he

27:34

was associated with and Then when they found

27:36

out about the Babylon working ritual that hit

27:39

they've been working on for almost two years

27:41

and that Supposedly they

27:43

were successful In

27:45

fact the Air Force went so far as

27:47

to say they think he widened Whatever

27:50

the portal was that Crowley had opened back

27:52

in 1904 they

27:55

think that Parsons and Hubbard

27:57

actually widened it and they were unable

28:00

to close it. And

28:02

then you got people like Kenneth

28:04

Arnold who took over the Lima after

28:06

Alistair Crowley died, who was his personal

28:08

secretary, making statements like,

28:10

you know, it was a member of the

28:13

OTO that, you know,

28:17

caused the whole great wave or the

28:19

UFO flap and just

28:21

boasting and bragging that, you know, it was

28:24

one of us that got to do this

28:26

that caused all this. Whoa.

28:29

You said,

28:31

you said a bunch of stuff that I'm like,

28:34

whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. So, I

28:37

want to revisit three things that you said

28:39

here, and maybe you can

28:41

expound on. I'm

28:44

going to start with the first one I wrote

28:46

down here, Jack Parson, Suicide Squad and the

28:48

Devil's Gate. Damn. What is that?

28:51

Like, what is that all about? Yeah,

28:54

that was the area where they used to go

28:56

out there and do all their experiments

28:59

when they were trying to, you know, launch

29:01

these rockets that just kept blowing up and

29:03

exploding. That's why they refer to themselves as

29:05

Suicide Squad because they figured, you know, they're

29:08

probably going to end up killing themselves. And

29:12

yeah, and like I said, they had

29:14

this rocky outcropping that looked like a demonic

29:17

face. And like I said, you got

29:20

Parson's and his Suicide Squad out there

29:22

performing these experiments. And keep in mind

29:24

every time that he would go out

29:26

there and do this before they actually

29:29

tried to launch it or blow it up or whatever,

29:32

he would do these rituals to the

29:34

Greek god Pan. And

29:36

this is the exact same spot that

29:38

Robert Goddard performed all hit when he

29:40

was out there doing the same thing,

29:42

trying to launch these rockets and blowing

29:44

things up. It was they

29:46

were both in that same exact area.

29:48

What are the odds and the coincidence,

29:50

you know, of that happening? Yeah, we,

29:54

we, this is a

29:56

documentary that hasn't been released yet, but

29:58

we went on. quite a

30:00

journey to be honest with you across the state

30:02

of Kentucky and into

30:05

Tennessee for one, it'll be released in 2025, but

30:07

the area in Kentucky, in

30:14

the Somerset area is an area

30:16

that the

30:18

Greek God pan has been documented

30:21

to have been, how do I say this? People

30:25

have tried summoning the Greek God pan

30:28

in, I believe it was

30:30

Somerset, Kentucky. And I

30:34

don't know if they were successful, but

30:39

the Greek God pan seems

30:41

to pop up a lot with this kind of

30:43

stuff. And of all

30:45

the ancient gods and stuff, why do

30:47

you think pan often pops up with

30:49

this? What is it about pan that

30:51

they're trying to, that they want

30:53

to try summoning him over, I don't

30:55

know, Zeus, I don't know. Well,

30:59

they're pretty much, they're the same thing. Don't

31:02

tell me that. Really? Yeah.

31:05

Wow. Same. Cause

31:08

what was it? In

31:11

fact, up there, the

31:13

case when Jesus was the apostle,

31:15

it's a cicerat Philippa. You

31:18

know, you got the Greek God pans

31:21

domain right there, as well as the

31:23

gates of Hades, and you had Mount

31:25

Hermon, all three

31:27

are all visible right

31:30

where Jesus asked. He said, who people say that

31:32

I am, and all the different

31:34

policies. Some say you're Jeremiah, some say you're this, some

31:36

say you're that. He said, but

31:38

who do you say that I am? And

31:40

the only one was Peter. He's like, you're

31:43

the Christ, you're the Messiah. And he said,

31:45

blessed are you for, or

31:49

my father in heaven has revealed this to you,

31:52

and no man has.

31:55

And the thing was, is when he

31:57

was asking him, specifically when he was

31:59

asking. them that it's like these

32:01

were the three things that were right behind him.

32:05

So he was specifically asking them. He was

32:07

literally like Mike Heiser said, he said he

32:09

was sticking his thumb in the eye of

32:11

the enemy and provoking him

32:13

because he knew that two weeks from that

32:15

point that he was going to be crucified.

32:18

Man, that's wild. That's wild.

32:20

That's going to have to make, I'm going to have to

32:23

reassess all the Disney movies now. Been

32:25

down that road. I've been down that road. But

32:30

so you mentioned

32:32

also about the Babylon,

32:34

was it the Babylon working ritual? Is that what you

32:36

called it? Yes, that

32:39

was the, that is based off of the

32:41

Amalancha working, which was the original ritual

32:44

that Crowley had performed. And

32:48

keep in mind what this is not

32:51

too long after he performed or while

32:54

he was performing that whenever he dealt

32:56

with or met the, or

32:59

summoned the entity, Awas, that

33:02

gave him the book of the law. It

33:04

over a three day period dictated

33:06

the book of the law that he

33:09

wrote down, which is also very, that's

33:11

another one of those ones like when

33:13

I was reading some of Kenneth Arnold's

33:15

writings. How, Kenneth just, I

33:17

mean, seriously, if you read his books,

33:19

the Typhonian series, and I

33:21

don't recommend anybody read it, but this

33:24

guy brags and he boasts quite a

33:26

bit. And in the

33:28

book that I was reading out of

33:30

his Typhonian series, Kenneth Arnold wrote

33:33

one called Aleister Crowley and the Hidden God.

33:35

And in that

33:37

book, he says that the

33:39

book of the law, part of the reason

33:41

why the book of the law came into

33:43

existence was to pave the way for the

33:45

Man of Sin. And

33:48

right after the book

33:50

of the law was released, World War

33:53

I broke out. Now

33:55

Crowley, you know, he said

33:57

that there was something to that. So

34:00

years down the road, he re-released it.

34:02

And right after he released it the

34:04

second time, World War II broke up.

34:07

At that point, he became convinced

34:10

that this has something to do

34:12

with bringing about the end

34:15

of the world, bringing about the man of

34:17

sin, the son of perdition, and

34:20

that this was causing a baptism

34:22

of blood was the words that

34:24

he used. And along

34:26

with communism and abortion and all this

34:28

other stuff, this was all paving the

34:30

way, creating this baptism

34:32

of blood for the man of sin that

34:34

was about to come on the scene. In

34:37

fact, what was it? It was, oh,

34:42

Charles Ray's tussle, or

34:45

Charles Hayes Russell. He was the one

34:47

who started the Jehovah's Witnesses. And

34:50

they had a prediction that the end of the

34:53

world would begin on this date. I can't remember

34:55

if it was October 2nd or October 4th, 1914.

35:00

But whatever the date was that they predicted

35:02

that that was going to come about, that

35:04

was the day that Jack Parsons was born.

35:07

So how fitting is it that you got

35:09

this individual born on the day that the

35:12

Jehovah's Witnesses made this prediction that

35:14

the end of the world would begin on this

35:16

particular date and that God would go on to

35:18

become the one

35:21

that referred to himself as

35:23

the Antichrist, and that

35:25

he would be one of the ones that

35:28

served in Alistair Crowley, who was 666 the

35:31

Beast, and that he would

35:33

take his ritual, the Amalancha working,

35:35

tweak it and call it the

35:37

Babylon working ritual. And

35:39

that was the things they were trying to bring about

35:41

the horror of Babylon, bring about the

35:44

Antichrist, and bring about the end of the world.

35:47

And supposedly they were successful. We

35:50

are now living in the end days

35:52

because they, you know, trying to help

35:54

out the Bible, not that it needed

35:56

any help, but that they wanted to

35:58

bring it back. about the end of

36:00

the world. And that's the

36:02

thing is that they are in league or

36:04

we're in league with these entities. And

36:09

I guess that I judge everything by

36:11

their fruits. So you

36:13

got the Scientologists, these

36:15

OT sevens, they're doing remote viewing, they're having

36:17

these hitchhiker phenomenon and just some of the

36:19

stuff that they and that's the thing is,

36:22

you know, people think the remote viewing is

36:24

all nonsense. It's not nonsense. When you look

36:26

at the data and you look at, I

36:29

mean, why would they fund this program

36:32

that, you know, if it doesn't yield any

36:34

results, it has to be renewed every single

36:36

year. Why would they keep renewing

36:38

it for 20 years? Yeah,

36:41

it's, I think

36:45

we understand there's something to it.

36:48

And I think that we'd be

36:50

foolish to think that the higher ups wouldn't think

36:52

there's something to it either. They do throw money

36:54

at it and they don't, you know, like, I'm,

36:57

I don't want to say they don't throw money at things

36:59

that they that aren't worth throwing

37:01

money at because they do that a lot too.

37:04

But it's definitely something to,

37:07

to consider. So if Parsons,

37:10

you said Parsons said that he

37:12

was the Antichrist, right? Yes.

37:16

So where does that leave

37:18

us then according to his

37:20

theology, if he

37:23

was the Antichrist, then according

37:27

to him, then we were no longer on

37:29

the guard for an Antichrist at this point,

37:31

right? Now,

37:33

the son of perdition has not come on the

37:35

scene. He wanted to be,

37:37

or he referred to himself as Antichrist. He,

37:39

and that's the thing is we know that

37:41

there's going to be multiple Antichrist, but

37:44

he was, that was the thing

37:46

is that he wanted to bring about the horror of Babylon

37:48

and bring about the son of perdition. So

37:50

that he supposedly in

37:53

his autobiography, before he died, he

37:55

had wrote that he was contacted

37:57

by the spirit of the, moon

38:01

child that he had created and that

38:03

it referred to itself as Hilarion and

38:05

said that I am here. And what

38:10

was it also? I thought

38:14

just got away from me. I had another thought that I

38:16

was going to tie in with that, but you

38:18

have a lot of thoughts in your head to keep

38:20

track of my friend. You got a lot of information.

38:23

So with Parsons

38:25

then you had mentioned him

38:28

and Hubbard had opened a portal

38:30

even wider. On that

38:33

premise and that

38:35

thought process, would

38:38

that portal still be open to this day

38:40

then? And what would be going in and

38:44

out at this point? Yeah.

38:47

And like I said, this is

38:49

the part of the investigation

38:51

that San Bruno and the Air Force

38:53

had determined that they believe that he

38:55

had not only opened this portal, but

38:57

that he had widened the

38:59

one that Aleister Crowley had originally done

39:02

back in 1904 when he made contact

39:05

with AWAS. So yeah.

39:12

So we're talking, you know, military involvement.

39:15

I remember you saying in the documentary

39:17

about their, I think you said something

39:19

about their being sorcery at the Pentagon.

39:21

Am I remembering that correctly or, or

39:24

rituals on military bases? That

39:27

was a, that was a newspaper article

39:29

that I incorporated in there where they,

39:32

you know, we're talking about sorcery at the

39:34

Pentagon, talking about a lot of this stuff

39:36

as far as like rituals going on in

39:38

military bases and even

39:41

the, the whole thing about the remote

39:43

viewing program. But

39:45

yeah, Arizona Wilder, who's one of the

39:48

people at the beginning of the film,

39:50

you get to hear her talking about

39:52

a lot of the satanic rituals that

39:54

are going on out at military bases

39:57

and that Naval intelligence is involved. in

39:59

a lot of this, but

40:01

she also went so far as to

40:03

say that a lot of people in

40:06

naval intelligence are also part

40:08

of the OTO, or to Otempley Orihanus.

40:11

So that right there should tell you everything you

40:13

need to know. Yeah, I mean, so

40:16

what would be, I guess

40:19

this might be a basic elementary question,

40:21

but like what would be the purpose

40:23

and motivations to be

40:25

getting involved in, you know, these

40:27

kind of rituals and stuff at

40:30

their level, you know, I mean, is this

40:34

basically signifying and saying

40:36

that within

40:38

our own ranks of military,

40:41

they're using, you know, sorcery,

40:45

magical means to accomplish what they're trying

40:47

to accomplish on a military level? All

40:51

of it. It's all about power. It's no

40:53

different than what the Nazis were doing back

40:56

during World War II.

40:58

Even the symbology that

41:01

the Nazis were using

41:03

as well, you know, the lightning bolts,

41:06

you know, these are ancient runes, you

41:08

know, even the swastika and so on,

41:10

you know, people are like, the swastika, that's

41:13

the Nazis. It's like, that symbol is over

41:15

2000 years old, you

41:17

know, it's like they were

41:19

using ancient rune symbols because

41:22

they believe that they have power and

41:25

they were trying to tap into that power

41:27

because a lot of people get hung up

41:29

on this whole thing that the Nazis were

41:31

all about, you

41:33

know, white supremacy and it's all about

41:36

eugenics and stuff like that. You're

41:38

getting, you know, you're getting

41:41

lost in the muddy water.

41:43

It's like really look at what

41:45

it is that they were talking about. What were they

41:48

saying? They believed that they

41:50

were the descendants of the Arians and

41:52

who were the Arians? Well, the Arians were

41:55

the descendants of the Atlanteans. Okay, well, who

41:57

are the Atlanteans? Well, let's look at what...

42:00

Helena Blavatsky said about the Atlantians.

42:02

She said in her

42:04

book, Secret Doctrine

42:06

is Volume 2 and one of the

42:09

things that she translated called the Book of Dizion,

42:12

she says that they built statues

42:14

the size of their bodies. That

42:16

was nine yachties high. Well, yachty

42:18

is three feet. So

42:21

nine times three is 27 feet tall.

42:23

That's directly tying them into Genesis

42:25

6 and the Nephilim. They

42:27

believed they were the

42:30

descendants of the Nephilim. That's

42:32

what they were tapping into and that's what they were trying to know.

42:35

No different from all the other governments around the

42:37

world, including the United States. And

42:40

keep in mind that under Project Paperclip, we

42:42

absorbed almost 1600 Nazis. And

42:45

when they came over here, they brought all

42:48

their beliefs with them and the

42:50

US military was already steeped in a lot of

42:52

this stuff as well and doing

42:55

a lot of very unethical experiments

43:00

on humans. And

43:02

I go through all that in the film as

43:04

well as show because people couldn't

43:06

be mixed up in this. They couldn't. They wouldn't

43:09

get into that. And it's like when you see

43:11

what they're doing to their own citizens, how

43:14

hard is it to believe that they got mixed

43:16

up into the satanic? If something

43:18

yields results, gives you power and

43:22

technology and things like that, that's

43:26

not going to deter a lot of people. Yeah.

43:29

So what you're saying is that even

43:31

before Project Paperclip bringing 1600 Nazis

43:33

over, our

43:37

government was already involved in this

43:39

esoteric type stuff, trying to gain

43:43

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46:26

You know, we

46:28

were living in real interesting

46:30

times with what's

46:32

being disclosed to the public and then who's

46:35

doing the disclosing. So, you know,

46:37

you got George Knapp and people like that who've been

46:39

out for a long time. But

46:41

now you're seeing people like

46:43

Tucker Carlson. I mean, Tucker Carlson

46:45

is talking about UFOs now for the last, I

46:47

don't know, six, seven years. And, you

46:50

know, now that he's not at the network, I

46:52

mean, he seems like he's talking more about it.

46:54

And he was just on Rogan recently really saying

46:57

things just kind

46:59

of unhinged, not unhinged, not

47:01

handcuffed. There's no handcuffs

47:03

on the guy and he's saying things.

47:05

And, you know, there's part of me that,

47:09

that kind of,

47:13

I don't know what the right word is. It's

47:15

not jealous or envious, but there is part of

47:17

me that's like, I've been saying

47:19

this, you know,

47:22

but Tucker Carlson says like, no, we've

47:24

been saying this, you know, but now

47:26

that Tucker Carlson is saying it, now

47:28

it has, you know, weight to it.

47:30

Or now people are questioning Tucker Carlson's

47:32

sanity. But, you know,

47:34

he's talking about these UFOs, these,

47:36

these, these, well, let's just say

47:38

the UFOs. He's talking about UFOs

47:41

and the things that

47:43

are piloting the UFOs

47:45

being spiritual beings. Like,

47:50

I know it's groundbreaking for the rest of

47:52

the world, but that's something that we've been

47:54

kind of going down for a while now.

47:57

And I pulled this up here.

48:00

before and I want to kind of steer

48:02

you in this direction because I think it's, I

48:05

think it's interesting and I think it does

48:07

relate to the pop culture

48:09

idea of stranger things. I

48:13

told you before we started recording, one of my,

48:16

one of the things that I take most joy

48:18

in is telling people the clickbait

48:20

phrase, stranger things is real. I

48:23

love telling people that because it

48:25

gets, they're like, why crazy? I'm

48:27

like, no, listen, it really is

48:30

for so many reasons. And I think

48:32

what's going on here, I have a

48:36

tweet here. I'm just going to read it so

48:38

I can get the information out to you. In

48:41

terms of those metallic spheres slash

48:43

drones, this is what alleged new

48:45

firsthand UFO whistleblower Jason Sands had

48:47

to say in the space last

48:49

night, meaning an X space or

48:53

a Twitter space. The

48:55

metallic spheres are NHI

48:57

non-human intelligence drones. They're

48:59

using them because our

49:01

direct energy weapons are

49:03

affecting their manned craft.

49:06

And so like the tweet

49:09

goes on, but that right there,

49:11

it like, so Jason Sands saying

49:13

that we're using direct energy weapons

49:16

on manned craft that are coming

49:18

from other realms. And now they're

49:20

using their own drones

49:22

because of that. To me, that tells

49:25

me there's some kind of warfare going

49:27

on right now between, I

49:31

say us very loosely and

49:34

things coming from other realms

49:36

because, and I say loosely because I

49:39

personally feel like there are coalitions

49:41

and alliances between us humans and

49:43

these other entities and beings. And

49:45

I think what you laid out

49:48

for the last 45 minutes, it

49:51

draws that picture of people summoning

49:53

entities, bringing entities into this realm,

49:55

not just to for the fun

49:57

of it, but to work alongside.

50:00

them for their own reasons. And so

50:03

if our government, our militaries are doing

50:05

this, yet we're also warring, it seems

50:08

like there's this, it's hard. The only

50:10

way I can think of it is

50:12

if we're shooting down

50:15

things that are coming from other realms, yet

50:17

we're working alongside of things that are coming

50:19

from other realms, it tells me that in

50:21

these other realms, there are opposing

50:23

factions as well. Does that

50:26

make sense at all? I don't know how

50:28

else to describe it. I mean, we talk about

50:31

angelic beings, like God's angels, and you

50:33

had the fallen angels. Well, those two

50:36

factions would be warring with

50:38

one another, but then you have

50:40

these other ancient gods, Psalm

50:42

82, these other God entities. And it's just

50:45

like, to me, I think that this other

50:47

realm, and maybe it's probably

50:49

more definitely multiple realms

50:53

and the things that exist in these realms, there

50:56

seems to be a hierarchy and a

50:58

constant struggle. I just find it interesting

51:00

that this guy's saying that we're actually

51:03

shooting- You're pretty close to being right

51:05

on target with what you're talking about,

51:07

whether you realize it or not. The

51:10

whole thing about them

51:14

encountering these crafts, even in the

51:16

FBI document that I brought

51:18

up in the Higher Entities film, FBI

51:22

document 6751, they talk about these things

51:24

are interdimensional and coming from another dimension.

51:27

And they said that they can appear at will.

51:29

And it talked about don't engage with these things

51:31

because they have some sort of particle weapon. And

51:35

then even George Knapp here recently, on

51:37

one of his interviews, one of the

51:39

last ones he did with Jeremy Korbel

51:41

on Joe Rogan's podcast, he

51:44

talked about that when he went to Russia

51:46

and they gave him a lot

51:48

of the documents where they've

51:51

been having encounters and studying

51:53

UFO phenomenon, they

51:56

gave him documents showing how at one point their

51:58

military. used

52:00

to engage with these things whenever they would come

52:02

in contact. And after

52:05

three different occasions

52:08

where they engaged with the UFO, all

52:12

three craft were shot down, but two

52:14

pilots were able to eject out of

52:17

different craft. But the third one, they

52:19

actually killed the pilot. And

52:22

after that, the Russian military told

52:24

them, don't engage

52:26

with these things anymore. They

52:28

have possible unknown powers

52:30

of retaliation and just to

52:33

leave them alone. And

52:37

you got into the whole

52:39

thing about Psalms 82, about

52:41

the other gods that are

52:43

talked about the gods

52:46

over the nations that had

52:48

become corrupted. And

52:50

that's why in that passage, he

52:53

says that you shall die like men.

52:56

Well, the reason why he told him that because they

52:58

are gods, that they are going to

53:00

die like men because they had become corrupted and

53:02

they corrupted humanity. And his one

53:04

portion, which was Israel, which was his

53:06

land that he rules over. You

53:10

get into the whole thing with the next

53:13

book or the next film that I'm going to do

53:15

is going to be over the nine. And

53:18

what that gets into is there

53:20

has been nine gods

53:23

throughout every pantheon of every civilization

53:25

that have ruled over all the

53:28

other gods. And

53:30

you get into the Egypt,

53:32

you look at the Aeneid,

53:35

and you got the nine gods that ruled

53:37

over Olympus, the

53:39

nine that were ruled over India, the nine that

53:41

ruled over Mesopotamia and so on. It just goes

53:43

on and on and on. And

53:46

so I just found that very odd and

53:48

unique that there is these nine gods that

53:50

kept talking about throughout different, you

53:52

know, different pantheons and different civilizations like what is

53:54

up with all this. And

53:57

then you start looking at some of the

53:59

stuff that Alistair Crowley. And he

54:01

said, I serve my God, Lucifer, and

54:04

his Augustus council of nine, and he

54:06

actually names all nine of them. And

54:10

you know, the head being Lucifer. So

54:13

then I'm like, okay, that's, you

54:15

know, because you start looking at different gods

54:17

and different, you

54:19

know, different things. And they

54:22

all have the same qualities. You

54:24

know, whether this be the storm god over here, he's

54:26

a storm god over here, he's a storm god over

54:28

here. It doesn't matter what

54:30

they might have different names, but they're

54:33

the same entity. And

54:35

that's where I'm going to go

54:37

with this next film that I'm going to

54:39

do is I'm going to get in, I'm going to show how these, they've

54:42

been around forever. They've been here since

54:44

the Garden of Eden and

54:46

that they

54:49

are the Augustus council

54:51

of nine. You know,

54:53

even pure rich and all them who was tied

54:55

up with Yuri Geller, he was

54:58

part of this group

55:00

that was making contact with these entities

55:02

called the council nine. And

55:05

you know, Gene Roddenberry was tied up in all

55:07

this, you know, he was part of lab nine

55:09

as well as the round table and all the

55:11

other names that this group all held. But

55:15

he was sitting there writing every

55:17

single thing down that these entities

55:19

were dictating. And

55:22

this, this is where we get the TV

55:24

show Star Trek that everybody is just so

55:26

beloved and just, you know, they, and

55:28

when you really start looking at how much

55:30

he incorporated of all the stuff that he

55:32

was being told about these entities into the

55:34

television show, you know, the

55:36

nine crew members on the bridge, the

55:39

NCC 1701, one plus

55:42

seven plus zero plus one equals nine.

55:44

And then you got deep space nine, you got

55:47

the nine majority gods live in this wormhole. And

55:49

I mean, just the more you sit here and

55:51

start putting all this together, it's like, holy cow.

55:53

It's like, and then, you know, even when

55:56

you find out that, what

55:58

is it? There

1:00:00

is a reason and method behind even

1:00:02

the fact that after World War

1:00:04

II, when they

1:00:06

moved the temple to

1:00:09

Berlin, and then all

1:00:11

of a sudden then the Berlin

1:00:13

Wall goes out and everything breaks

1:00:15

crazy over there. It's like there's

1:00:17

something about these temples, these artifacts

1:00:19

and symbols and symbology, all this.

1:00:22

There is something to this. Something

1:00:25

to it for sure. You

1:00:28

brought up CERN and I want to just pick

1:00:30

your brain on what I had messaged you earlier

1:00:32

on. When

1:00:36

you mentioned about the Council of Nine, I

1:00:39

had just got done looking

1:00:43

at something and I was reading

1:00:45

about the nine miners that lost

1:00:48

their lives during the construction of

1:00:50

CERN, and how when they

1:00:52

had the opening, the ceremony for the tunnel,

1:00:55

they did a whole ritual

1:00:57

that was honoring those nine

1:01:01

miners. It was

1:01:03

like a passing thought, I think I shot

1:01:05

over your way. I was like, is it

1:01:07

possible that those nine miners could have been

1:01:09

more on the long lines of sacrifices for

1:01:11

this Council of Nine? What

1:01:13

are your thoughts on that? Does it tie together at all or is

1:01:16

it just me reading tea leaves that aren't there? I

1:01:20

wouldn't think that you could be too far off

1:01:22

target. I mean, you could be very close to

1:01:24

the truth with all that

1:01:27

because they love their

1:01:29

numbers. We know they love

1:01:31

numerology and the whole thing about

1:01:33

Giamatria and so on. They

1:01:36

love their human sacrifices as

1:01:38

well. But yeah, there's definitely

1:01:40

something to that. Like

1:01:43

I said, when you find out that that

1:01:45

same temple we were just discussing, that

1:01:48

the temple of Apollo was actually moved,

1:01:50

but it used to be smack dab

1:01:53

right in the middle of the Large

1:01:55

Hadron Collider. And that

1:01:57

they believe that that is where

1:01:59

the bottom was. pit is located

1:02:01

underneath that area in particular. Wow.

1:02:03

And that they are. And I know

1:02:05

that you also, I think you brought up about them

1:02:08

when they would fire it up. They kept

1:02:10

seeing these portals

1:02:13

opening up and they were seeing entities moving

1:02:15

around. And they've been talking about

1:02:17

that for a long time that every time

1:02:20

they fire it up, depending on how, how

1:02:23

powerful it is when they do it, that

1:02:25

yeah, these things, not only do they appear

1:02:27

while they're doing this, but they

1:02:29

will go on for weeks after

1:02:32

they shut the machine down, that these

1:02:34

things continuously start showing up and

1:02:36

shadow people moving around out there at CERN

1:02:38

and different things like that. So yeah. Um,

1:02:41

it's funny because I live here in East Tennessee

1:02:43

and we have our own, uh, little

1:02:45

mini CERN at Oak Ridge. And,

1:02:47

uh, I was at a birthday party, a kid's

1:02:50

birthday party this past weekend. I was talking to

1:02:52

one of the parents and, uh, he works at

1:02:54

CERN or not CERN at Oak Ridge. And

1:02:57

I asked him, I said, cause he brought,

1:02:59

he brought about the particle accelerator. Uh,

1:03:02

and I said, yeah, you know about CERN and

1:03:04

he's like, no, what's CERN? I was like, Oh

1:03:06

brother. I was like,

1:03:09

how much time do you

1:03:11

have? You know, but do

1:03:13

you think that, uh,

1:03:15

what we see happening at CERN is

1:03:18

more than likely, uh, happening at these other smaller

1:03:20

particle accelerators? I know, I know, I think it's

1:03:22

China that was talking about building one that's bigger

1:03:24

than CERN or if they're maybe they're constructing it

1:03:27

now. But, um, I mean, I've

1:03:29

heard stories coming out of my local

1:03:31

particle accelerator that makes me feel like

1:03:33

what, whatever is happening at CERN is

1:03:35

being mirrored in these other locations as

1:03:37

well. I know we have one in

1:03:40

Chicago area as well. Yeah.

1:03:43

I think there's a couple in Texas as well. Um,

1:03:46

there's quite a few of them located all over the

1:03:48

United States that most people are, aren't even aware of.

1:03:51

And, um, yeah, I've, I've heard, uh,

1:03:53

bizarre accounts out of several of them.

1:03:56

Yeah. In fact, I believe, uh, was

1:03:59

Aaron Melissa Dyke. at Truestream Media,

1:04:02

they've done a couple, or

1:04:05

at least one episode that I know

1:04:07

of talking about multiple Hadron colliders located

1:04:09

all over the planet. It's

1:04:12

a fascinating topic to dive down.

1:04:15

The whole thing, because

1:04:17

it ties into so much stuff. And I

1:04:19

think what you do and people like you,

1:04:21

you really kind of do these deep dives

1:04:23

into these topics and you're really helping to

1:04:25

marry it all together for people to see

1:04:27

how it is all intertwined and connected. And

1:04:30

it's not easy to do because there's so

1:04:32

many, so much information out there, but also

1:04:34

so many branches to go down that circle

1:04:36

back around to one another. I

1:04:39

commend you guys for doing what you guys do. So

1:04:43

with the idea of Stranger Things, okay?

1:04:47

Stranger Things is real. I've already established that. Our

1:04:51

monsters, creatures

1:04:54

coming from other realms into this

1:04:56

realm. Do you think that's something that

1:04:59

from the TV show can

1:05:01

be mirrored into this reality of

1:05:03

our lives? I personally say yes, but what

1:05:05

do you say? I

1:05:08

say you're 100% correct. In

1:05:11

fact, the true

1:05:14

story of Stranger Things when

1:05:17

Duncan and all them were out there, which

1:05:21

I know that you probably read the book

1:05:23

where it ties in with the Philadelphia experiment

1:05:25

and all that, they

1:05:29

said that the last time that they had fired

1:05:31

up the machine because they

1:05:33

had this chair called the Montauk chair that

1:05:35

the kids would sit in and

1:05:37

it somehow enhanced their powers, their abilities.

1:05:40

And I think that this was tying in

1:05:42

with remote viewing, to be honest with you. That

1:05:45

was the thing is that a lot of these children, they

1:05:48

were kidnapping them straight off the

1:05:50

street. These were like runaway kids. And

1:05:54

they would literally torture these kids.

1:05:57

I mean, they tortured them. Now,

1:06:00

not just psychologically but physically as

1:06:02

well. And they would

1:06:04

beat animals in front of them and

1:06:07

kill animals. They would do horrible things

1:06:09

to the kids. Talked

1:06:11

about picking them up, having like a

1:06:13

tub full of ice water and a tub full of hot

1:06:15

water. And they would yank them

1:06:17

out of one tub and throw them into the

1:06:19

other and just keep doing this back and forth,

1:06:21

back and forth until eventually their minds would just

1:06:24

shatter. And Russ

1:06:26

Dizdar, he did an awesome job in

1:06:28

his book, The Black Awakening. I'll

1:06:31

never forget one of the things I read in

1:06:34

there that he talked about. He said that they

1:06:36

shatter their minds to open them up to demonic

1:06:38

possession. That is the key takeaway

1:06:40

about satanic ritual abuse that most people

1:06:42

just really, they're

1:06:45

like, why do they do this? Why do

1:06:47

they torture their kids and do these rituals

1:06:49

and abuse their children? Well,

1:06:51

that's why. They're literally trying to

1:06:53

open them up to demonic because

1:06:55

they want something to come in

1:06:58

and to inhabit them. They're

1:07:02

opening the doorways deliberately. This is

1:07:05

why some of these people are

1:07:07

just so completely evil. I

1:07:09

mean, because they are demonically

1:07:12

possessed straight up. They

1:07:15

can be people of power. And people say that, what is it?

1:07:18

I've heard the thing. They say that

1:07:20

narcissists make the best businessmen

1:07:22

and salesmen because they're just so cut

1:07:24

throat. And it's like they have no

1:07:27

empathy whatsoever. Why

1:07:29

do you think that is? Because a lot

1:07:31

of these people are demonically possessed. That's

1:07:34

why they could thrive in business. And

1:07:36

the same thing with the music and movie

1:07:38

industry. None of these people get

1:07:40

into these positions of power unless

1:07:43

they sell their souls. And they all openly talk

1:07:45

about it. There's a great series that Goodbye Ministries

1:07:48

has put out called, They Sold Their Souls for

1:07:50

Rock and Roll. And you can

1:07:52

hear it straight from the horse's mouth. They will tell

1:07:54

you that they literally sold their souls so

1:07:57

that they could have positions of power. You

1:07:59

know, looking what's coming out right now with P Diddy

1:08:01

and all this. He's another

1:08:04

Epstein. And you know, the

1:08:06

thing is, is that you will, one of the

1:08:08

things that I did find out doing this research

1:08:10

for the film is that

1:08:13

Satanist and

1:08:15

espionage go hand in

1:08:17

hand. You

1:08:20

know, you get into the, like the intelligence

1:08:23

agencies and espionage and all that, you

1:08:26

will always come face to face

1:08:28

with Satanists, people that are doing

1:08:30

satanic rituals because

1:08:33

I mean, even Aleister Crowley and

1:08:35

all his cronies, all his buddies,

1:08:37

they all work for the intelligence

1:08:39

agency. He worked for British

1:08:41

intelligence. A lot of people

1:08:44

don't know that it's, it's not a hard thing to uncover.

1:08:46

You can do a little digging and you'll find out real

1:08:48

quick. Yes. And that was one of

1:08:50

the things that they were very embarrassed about, but you

1:08:52

know, going all the way back to like John

1:08:55

D and Queen Elizabeth, they've always

1:08:57

gone hand in hand. Um,

1:09:02

I refuse to believe that Taylor

1:09:04

Swift is anything but pure hearted.

1:09:06

Okay, sir. So I'm not

1:09:09

a Swifty. I'm not a

1:09:11

Swifty. Uh, but no, I, I

1:09:13

agree with you. I absolutely agree with you.

1:09:16

Um, when you

1:09:18

were bringing up the Montauk project, uh,

1:09:21

I just last week

1:09:24

was on the phone with a guy, um,

1:09:27

maybe the recording will happen. Maybe it won't.

1:09:29

I I'm not sure, not sure yet for

1:09:31

many different reasons. Uh, and

1:09:34

just to be honest with you, one of

1:09:36

the reasons is that I'm not

1:09:38

sure it's fair to, to do

1:09:42

that to him. Um, you

1:09:44

know, there, there are some

1:09:46

people I just, you,

1:09:49

you're listening. Let me just say this way. I'm

1:09:52

talking to the guy and he's telling me

1:09:54

about how from his childhood,

1:09:56

how certain things happened to him. And one

1:09:58

of the things that happened to him was

1:10:00

he. was called to his principal's house with

1:10:02

his parents. And they had this meeting about

1:10:04

why he's not working in the school. And

1:10:08

he wound up getting put into a

1:10:10

program. He later

1:10:13

then said that his parents basically sold him

1:10:15

into the program, but

1:10:17

he would travel from Indiana

1:10:20

to New York as a child. They would drive

1:10:22

there. And then his parents would

1:10:25

fly back and leave him in New York. And

1:10:27

he said that he was going into this,

1:10:30

he didn't say it was a school, it was like a

1:10:33

facility. And they started doing like these tests on him and

1:10:35

torturing and this, that and the other. And he's talking about

1:10:37

all this stuff, but he didn't say it

1:10:39

as clear as I just said it to you. And

1:10:41

I just, after like 30 minutes, I just stopped him.

1:10:43

I said, are you talking to me about Camp Hero?

1:10:46

Are you telling me you were part of the Montauk

1:10:48

project? He's like, yes. And I said, why didn't you

1:10:50

just say that? And he said, I didn't

1:10:52

know if you knew what that was. And I'm like, yeah,

1:10:54

I know what that is. And I started,

1:10:57

he was talking about, and his, this

1:11:00

is, I think a common thing with people that are involved in this

1:11:02

stuff is that this

1:11:04

affects them their entire lives, that

1:11:07

they're trying to recover from it. And

1:11:10

he said that he was put into this

1:11:12

program with two other kids. And

1:11:15

the two other kids, he said,

1:11:17

were highly intelligent. He wasn't on

1:11:19

that level of intellect. And

1:11:21

he said, when they were done with these

1:11:23

kids, these kids were mentally handicapped. They

1:11:25

just abused the snot out of them. And,

1:11:29

but the reason why I say, I'm not sure if he's

1:11:31

going to be on or not is because I

1:11:33

find that, and I've talked to several people

1:11:35

like this man, very

1:11:37

hard to get the

1:11:40

quote unquote story, the idea

1:11:42

out of, it's all so

1:11:44

compartmentalized and chopped up. The

1:11:47

story, their life story of them sharing

1:11:49

it seems to be very fragmented. And

1:11:51

it doesn't make much sense until you

1:11:53

start piecing things together. And

1:11:56

I just don't know if, if

1:11:58

it's a, if it's a, a good

1:12:00

marriage for the show per se,

1:12:04

but I hung up

1:12:06

with the guy, I absolutely believe in him. It's

1:12:08

just one of those things where it's

1:12:11

so deep and intertwined that

1:12:13

these people, the things that people go through,

1:12:15

how do you reveal that in an episode?

1:12:19

But it's just, again,

1:12:22

these government programs being

1:12:25

so intertwined with the occult and

1:12:28

magic, other realms, trying

1:12:30

to bring things in to possess

1:12:32

people, demonic entities, monsters

1:12:34

coming from other realms, you mentioned Duncan. It's

1:12:39

reality is mirroring

1:12:41

stranger things, reality

1:12:43

is mirroring the science fiction. Oh,

1:12:47

and real quick, I didn't finish

1:12:50

my thought because I started rattling off going

1:12:52

down a rabbit trail, but

1:12:55

you were saying about these things being

1:12:57

real and interdimensional and that cryptos

1:13:00

and so on, that

1:13:02

the last time that Duncan was in the chair,

1:13:05

one of the operators had walked up and said something

1:13:07

like the time is now or something like that because

1:13:09

they were getting ready to shut the program down. That's

1:13:13

when he envisioned some sort of

1:13:15

a creature. And

1:13:17

what was crazy about it was when

1:13:19

this thing showed up on the base

1:13:21

out there at Camp Hero that you're

1:13:24

talking about, different

1:13:26

people saw different things. And

1:13:29

I'll bring up another point about Skinwalker Ranch

1:13:31

where they had something similar. They

1:13:35

talked about how some people said this thing was nine

1:13:37

feet tall, other people said it was 30 feet tall,

1:13:39

but they said it was huge and it was hairy.

1:13:42

You listen to the description of it and they say, it

1:13:45

sounds like a gigantic Bigfoot that

1:13:48

just literally went on a rampage and

1:13:50

just started destroying everything in sight. And

1:13:54

finally, whenever they were able to

1:13:56

kill the power to

1:13:58

the chair or whatever stuff, that's... That's when

1:14:00

it finally came to a conclusion, it stopped.

1:14:03

But even out at Skinwalker

1:14:05

Ranch, one of the

1:14:07

books that I read, they

1:14:09

talk about how one night there was three

1:14:11

men out there somewhere

1:14:14

on the ranch, I don't know exactly

1:14:16

what area they were in, but they

1:14:18

all three saw this light. And

1:14:21

what was bizarre was whenever they were

1:14:23

using their night vision goggles and so

1:14:25

on, they were looking, each

1:14:27

one saw something different. One

1:14:30

person saw a triangle, another person

1:14:32

saw a sphere, another one saw

1:14:34

a square, but they

1:14:36

all saw something different and they

1:14:38

could see that light was emanating

1:14:40

from whatever this object was. Even

1:14:43

the pilots encounter some of these craft,

1:14:45

they talk about how those multiple pilots

1:14:47

will see it, but

1:14:51

they talk about different kinds of craft.

1:14:54

They're seeing something different. And

1:14:56

so like I said, these things have the

1:14:58

ability to appear

1:15:00

whatever they want to appear as to us. And

1:15:03

so... That

1:15:08

is something that has

1:15:11

been coming popular with

1:15:13

just coming across the desk for me. And

1:15:16

most recently, I did

1:15:18

an episode with Mike Cleland. I

1:15:21

call him the owl guy. Like that's what he does. And

1:15:23

I think he probably calls himself the owl guy. I mean,

1:15:25

if you're looking to figure out why

1:15:27

people are seeing owls during,

1:15:30

you know, UFO encounters or things like that,

1:15:32

he's pretty much the guy for that. And

1:15:35

he had his own experiences and stuff that kind of

1:15:38

launched him into this research. And he just, you know,

1:15:41

he strikes me as more agnostic than anything as

1:15:44

far as his perspectives on

1:15:46

life. But one

1:15:48

thing that he talked about was how people

1:15:52

will sometimes have an experience

1:15:54

together where they will see a

1:15:57

four foot, five foot owl, right? Like, so say you

1:15:59

and I... in the car together and we're like,

1:16:01

whoa, what is that? That doesn't

1:16:03

exist. A five foot owl doesn't exist. I'm like, did you

1:16:05

see that? And you're like, yeah, I saw him. Like that

1:16:07

owl was huge. And you're like, what

1:16:10

owl? I didn't see an owl.

1:16:12

I saw an upright walking dog. And

1:16:14

like people are seeing, they're having an experience,

1:16:16

but they're not seeing the same thing. And

1:16:20

I think he related to screen

1:16:22

memories and like these things, whatever

1:16:24

they are, are implanting memories and

1:16:26

visions and ideas into our head.

1:16:29

And it's different for each person.

1:16:32

And it's a very, it's

1:16:35

an interesting topic to go down, but it's

1:16:37

also, all this is disconcerting. The

1:16:39

fact that we launched the conversation off with

1:16:41

the Hitchhiker effect and how just

1:16:43

because you have nothing to do with this topic,

1:16:45

just because you're in my mere presence and I

1:16:47

went to the property, you're

1:16:50

susceptible to having this

1:16:52

stuff happen. I think this

1:16:54

is all just fascinatingly

1:16:56

bizarre. And I

1:16:59

guess my last question for you would be to

1:17:01

tie this up. I bring

1:17:03

up the Hitchhiker effect with all this

1:17:05

stuff that you have been researching and

1:17:07

things like that. Have you had experiences

1:17:09

of Hitchhiker effects just by looking into

1:17:11

these things? Don't

1:17:15

believe that I've had any experiences as

1:17:18

far as the Hitchhiker phenomenon, but real

1:17:20

quick to add what you were just

1:17:22

talking about. Carla

1:17:24

Turner, who was one of the

1:17:26

leading UFologists out there who's also a Christian that

1:17:29

has since passed away. She

1:17:31

got into a lot of that about them,

1:17:35

manipulating how we perceive

1:17:37

them sometimes as well as trying to

1:17:39

trick people. She

1:17:42

had a story in there talking about that

1:17:45

involved her son and her daughter-in-law. And

1:17:49

in the story, she talked about how the

1:17:53

daughter was outside of the car. And

1:17:56

they pulled up, but she didn't remember how she got

1:17:59

out of the car. She's... just standing there and she

1:18:01

knows that the car is to her back and she's

1:18:04

seeing what looks almost like a, um,

1:18:07

what is it? Like a doorway, but it's

1:18:10

camouflaged or it's, you know, like the predator,

1:18:12

it looks like the predator. It's just a

1:18:14

silhouette and outline. And she's looking

1:18:16

at this and, uh, she

1:18:19

keeps hearing her husband tell her, come on, you

1:18:21

know, come with me or something like that. And

1:18:24

she sees this doorway standing there next to him

1:18:27

and she's just like, you know, I don't, I don't

1:18:29

want to go over there. And she's like, you know,

1:18:32

finally she says she finally turned around and looked

1:18:34

back and when she turned around, looked back, she

1:18:36

saw her husband sitting in the car frozen

1:18:39

and he was not moving.

1:18:42

And at that point she realized that that was

1:18:44

not her husband that was standing in front of

1:18:46

her, that it was some, something posing as her

1:18:48

husband trying to get her to go with

1:18:51

it. And even,

1:18:53

uh, Sharon Gilbert, I don't know, you

1:18:55

know, Derek Gilbert's love. She

1:18:57

even tells the story of how she won

1:18:59

that, um, there was something

1:19:02

posing as Derek laying in

1:19:04

her bed. And, uh, she said, as soon as

1:19:06

she laid eyes on it, she knew that that

1:19:08

wasn't Derek. I mean, yeah.

1:19:10

So that's what both are

1:19:12

terrifying. Uh, you

1:19:15

know, one of these days I got to talk to Derek and Sharon

1:19:17

Gilbert. Uh, it's just one of those

1:19:19

things that I always say, I gotta do these

1:19:21

things and I never get around to it. Right.

1:19:23

Um, but, you're

1:19:27

talking about this, um, this

1:19:31

shimmering doorway, we'll call it, you know, I know what

1:19:33

you're talking about. I lack

1:19:36

the verbiage myself for it. Um,

1:19:39

I've talked about it several times

1:19:41

now, even, even entities appearing that

1:19:43

way. Um, but

1:19:47

that particular instance where there's this

1:19:49

shimming, shimmering doorway, her husband's there

1:19:51

saying, come to me. Uh,

1:19:56

it really makes you wonder how

1:19:58

often that happens. And does that

1:20:00

have anything to do with the

1:20:02

missing four on one type scenarios

1:20:04

where people are going missing seemingly,

1:20:06

you know, without

1:20:08

a trace, there's no reason or cause

1:20:10

to it. They're just, they're just

1:20:12

gone. I

1:20:14

mean, what if, what if, you know, that some

1:20:17

of the, some of the situations where

1:20:19

that has happened, where somebody

1:20:21

went missing and they vanished, there

1:20:23

are, they even has a few stories where

1:20:25

you can actually hear the person, you can

1:20:28

hear them, but you can't see them. You

1:20:30

can hear them screaming for help and

1:20:33

they'll walk around for like hours and they

1:20:35

can hear them screaming out, hollering for help.

1:20:37

And it's like, they're, they're getting dimmer and

1:20:39

dimmer and dimmer until eventually you just can't

1:20:41

hear them anymore at all. And

1:20:44

yeah. So again, is that,

1:20:46

that they've gone into another

1:20:49

reality. Like that's

1:20:51

the upside down. Like literally she's saying, well,

1:20:53

I hear you, but I don't see you.

1:20:55

And he's like, mom, I hear you, but

1:20:57

I don't see you. That's

1:21:00

wild. That's wild. I'm actually.

1:21:03

Did you ever watch the TV show debris? Did you ever

1:21:05

see that? No, where can I see it? Yeah. You

1:21:09

might be able to find it online. It's called debris. And

1:21:11

in one of the episodes, it's

1:21:15

about this UFO that came into

1:21:17

our galaxy. And as it got closer,

1:21:19

it hit something and it literally disintegrated

1:21:21

and pieces of the ship come raining

1:21:24

down all over the planet. Well,

1:21:26

different parts of this debris do

1:21:29

different things. And in

1:21:31

this particular one episode, it has

1:21:33

something to do with this. It's

1:21:36

illuminating a portal. And

1:21:39

they get into the whole thing about portals in this

1:21:41

episode. And whenever this

1:21:44

piece of debris activates, a portal will

1:21:46

appear. And you see like this rectangular

1:21:48

window and you can see shadow

1:21:50

people moving around in there. They come up close to

1:21:52

the thing. They're all touching it. And

1:21:55

come to find out one of the

1:21:57

people that they can hear in there. these

1:26:00

entities that can come

1:26:03

into our space time, but usually whenever

1:26:06

they are about to appear, people

1:26:09

describe that everything around them just

1:26:11

starts to get really bizarre. And

1:26:15

just some of the stuff that I've read about

1:26:17

that, it reminded me also of the Missing 411,

1:26:20

where David Paulides would talk

1:26:22

about whenever you

1:26:24

were out in the open, and he says

1:26:27

that if like all, everything goes quiet, like

1:26:29

the birds, the insects, and the wind goes

1:26:31

still, and it gets completely quiet,

1:26:33

he said that you need to sit down

1:26:35

and stop moving, because he says

1:26:38

that usually that's a telltale sign

1:26:40

that something's about to happen, so

1:26:42

you could end up disappearing.

1:26:45

He said that if you're with somebody, and you

1:26:47

all need to sit back to back and just

1:26:49

sit still until the sound and the wind picks

1:26:51

back up again. But

1:26:54

there's also another thing I didn't mention to you.

1:26:57

One of the things that I got into

1:26:59

in the film was a group of individuals

1:27:01

called the writers, that

1:27:04

Linda Moulton Howe had made contact with

1:27:07

through a friend of

1:27:09

mine named Ray Boucher. He had put her

1:27:11

in contact, and you might've heard of Ray

1:27:13

Boucher. Some

1:27:18

people know this group as

1:27:20

the Collins Elite. It's

1:27:22

not necessarily the Collins Elite, that's a name,

1:27:24

a moniker that somebody gave to him, a

1:27:27

writer, but they

1:27:29

were actually known as the writers, as

1:27:32

when Linda Moulton Howe was actually dealing

1:27:34

with them and talking to them. This

1:27:36

is a group of individuals within the

1:27:38

DOJ, the Pentagon, that

1:27:40

were witnessing a lot of the satanic rituals and

1:27:42

things that were going on in military bases and

1:27:45

different things, and

1:27:47

they were highly disturbed. Not

1:27:50

only was this stuff, was it being done

1:27:52

and being carried out, but that it was

1:27:54

very real, and that it

1:27:56

was yielding results. things

1:28:00

that they talked about in the paperwork

1:28:02

that Ray

1:28:05

Boucher sent me, he said that

1:28:07

some of these people are being taken, excuse

1:28:11

me, some of these

1:28:13

people are being taken and they almost

1:28:16

like in suspended animation, it almost looks

1:28:18

like they're in crystals and

1:28:20

they are just literally frozen in time.

1:28:23

And so that was another thing that they

1:28:25

got into that they were talking about. It

1:28:27

said that some of these people are being

1:28:29

taken, they don't know exactly why they're being

1:28:31

taken, what purpose, but they said that they

1:28:33

know that they are being

1:28:36

taken to other places and that

1:28:38

they are literally in

1:28:40

like a suspended animation. So

1:28:45

many things to uncover and

1:28:47

discover. So little

1:28:49

time. So, hey

1:28:52

man, listen, I appreciate you hopping on with

1:28:54

me and talking about all this stuff. I

1:28:56

just think it's so fascinating. You

1:28:59

cover so much information on the documentary.

1:29:01

The link for the documentary we're going

1:29:03

to put in the description of this

1:29:05

episode. Again, the title is

1:29:07

Skinwalkers and Stranger Things of the

1:29:09

Unseen Realm. I love

1:29:12

it. I appreciate you coming on and

1:29:14

talking to me and indulging me

1:29:17

in my nonsense. I appreciate it.

1:29:21

And I just, thank you very

1:29:23

much, man. It's been a long time and I hopefully

1:29:25

we can do it again, especially when you come out

1:29:27

with the next one. The nine gods,

1:29:29

that's something I just want

1:29:32

to hear about. Yeah,

1:29:34

I look forward to getting that out and

1:29:36

it's a pleasure as always. Come on here

1:29:39

and hang out with you and hopefully we

1:29:41

can do it again soon. I

1:29:43

look forward to checking out your film as well. I'm

1:29:46

a model was a VA. I

1:29:48

was working for cylinders. Put

1:29:51

it on me. No team. Dreams

1:29:53

running off. You

1:29:56

go back and for myself for mentioning a

1:29:58

couple billboards. Thank

1:30:00

God for a couple roadblocks I don't know if I'd

1:30:03

have stopped with a road and end Spent

1:30:06

years looking for the real me Always came

1:30:08

up missing Try

1:30:11

to find it at the bottom of the bottle

1:30:13

And a promising sippy Trying

1:30:15

to name all vices I thought

1:30:17

I was fine Using

1:30:20

darkness from my lighting Missing with

1:30:23

the timing Spent

1:30:26

years looking for the real me Always

1:30:28

came up missing Try

1:30:30

to find it at the bottom of the bottle And

1:30:33

a promising sippy Trying

1:30:36

to name all vices I thought I was

1:30:38

fine Using darkness

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