0:00

So the car rose by birth. And

0:03

here comes at yeah as dog

0:05

my. Mm Mm Mm Mmmm that. Chasing.

0:08

After I guess the tire desperate

0:11

to get it. And. All

0:13

of us think. What? Is

0:15

that dog thinking what

0:17

happens if it catches.

0:20

The. Car well guess what?

0:23

The. Right fringe of the

0:26

Republican party is the

0:28

dog that has just

0:30

caught the car that

0:33

is called reproductive Rights.

0:35

The are racing of

0:37

row and the emergence

0:40

of Dobbs as the

0:42

new. A lack of

0:44

national standard respecting a

0:47

woman's person or agency

0:49

over her own body

0:51

is a big deal.

0:54

And falls squarely under the category

0:56

of my brother. You better be

0:58

careful what you wish for. I'm.

1:07

Chris Cuomo and welcome to

1:09

the Chris Cuomo Project and

1:11

I am going to highlight

1:14

flag and underline an issue.

1:16

That will absolutely matter

1:19

in the presidential race,

1:21

and the Republicans should

1:23

have seen it. Coming.

1:26

So. The.

1:28

Idea of why this

1:30

issue matters has changed.

1:32

I was never a

1:34

big abortion person when

1:36

it came to politics.

1:38

I believe that the

1:40

issue itself was somewhat

1:43

manufactured for political convenience

1:45

and experience as a

1:47

distraction from more important

1:49

com and concerns. Ah,

1:52

First. Point of bristling

1:54

More important than human

1:56

life. You care?

1:58

or? You. It was man,

2:01

non christian, Okay, where

2:03

does that concern? Com wants the

2:05

kids through the shoe. Where's

2:08

the Go? Where. Are you

2:10

on early education? I've

2:12

been studies where it's bad.

2:15

really better nutrition, more attention

2:17

and education is a bad

2:20

thing. Shut up. Where is

2:22

the concern? For a human

2:24

being, once it comes through the shoot. Into

2:27

a life that is filled with

2:30

disadvantage. If.

2:32

That's the case, right? Should new? No. No,

2:35

no, all lies, all lies. Really?

2:39

Well. Yes, that's my face swap. That's

2:41

all it can be. right?

2:43

Because it's not science. How's it not?

2:46

What? Else can it be except

2:48

human potential life at the moment

2:51

of conception that has never. Been

2:54

the legal question. The

2:56

legal question is when is it

2:59

a person under the law with

3:01

rights attach their to? That is

3:03

their right and privilege to exercise.

3:07

Without. Interference of the same.

3:10

That's the legal question and it's

3:12

a real one Because have I

3:14

love you? You unfortunately may have

3:16

to live this reality as I

3:18

have. Someone

3:20

you love gets to an age of the

3:22

stage where they can't make their own decisions

3:24

anymore. They. Can exercise their

3:27

rights and privileges and there was.

3:30

And what happens when the

3:32

law has evolved over time

3:34

to recognize that and we

3:37

have a very well worn,

3:39

well tested notion of competence?

3:42

And competence is nice way of

3:44

saying. Whether. Or not, you're

3:46

still a person in there as

3:48

opposed to a bag of meat.

3:51

That. May have a pulse. Maybe.

3:53

Even look around looking like your

3:56

registering what's they? maybe even speak

3:58

but you're not bad person. The

4:00

more. You. Don't have that intelligence.

4:02

You don't have that sense since. You.

4:05

Don't have that awareness. That.

4:07

Makes you. A person.

4:11

More. Than just a bunch of organs

4:13

that are still functioning is. And

4:16

then decisions have to be made

4:18

for you. And the law has

4:20

proxies and the law has a

4:22

medical representatives in. the law has

4:24

a lot of different things where

4:27

he that will and last testament

4:29

doesn't count. That person was non

4:31

campus Memphis that was not. they

4:33

would not com but it's hard

4:35

for. For this is

4:37

the concept. When. Does that attach in

4:39

the womb? When.

4:42

Should it now of by my

4:44

measure campy the same test because

4:46

then it wouldn't attach until the

4:49

person's eighteen. Ah, so this isn't

4:51

such a novel question, Know. Because

4:54

when can you make a contract? Eighteen.

4:58

Age Of Majority Rights Unless

5:00

you go through a very

5:03

protracted in cumbersome process of

5:05

being emancipated right. Eighteen.

5:08

Cameras: Particle Twenty Five. Why.

5:11

Because they don't think that you're smart

5:13

enough to figure out how to take

5:15

care of the car, you know. But

5:17

sure enough, you're not enough of a

5:19

person as far as they're concerned, right?

5:21

So they have a policy in place.

5:24

Eighteen, Twenty One Twenty Five. We ascribe

5:26

these standards because we believed or different

5:28

levels of existence fundamentally in terms of

5:30

your ability to make decisions and to

5:32

be respected as having certain rights and

5:34

privileges. So what does this

5:36

mean in the womb? Or first? my

5:38

problem with the question is always been it's

5:40

more about politics and science because you've

5:42

never really taken the time to study it

5:45

and the idea that it is potential human

5:47

life is obvious. Marco Rubio, the senator from

5:49

Florida, once said to me what else could

5:51

be a cactus As if that were the

5:54

end of the discussion, it is for

5:56

him. He's a Catholic. right? That's

5:58

his face. Whenever he

6:00

lives it or not, but there is a good example

6:02

of or not. I don't care this for you to

6:04

judge of your Florida voter that that's not my place

6:07

as a journalist and it's not my interest as a

6:09

human being. I don't really give a ship a kind

6:11

of person he is. And. I

6:13

think it's a distraction to talk about it and

6:15

and that is And I'm just saying it, not

6:18

to engage in it, but to move into the

6:20

site. That's not the analysis. The

6:23

analysis is. This

6:25

is Not a Christian law.

6:28

Okay, I. Was

6:31

raised Christian. I was

6:33

raised Catholic. I choose

6:35

to believe and have

6:37

face and tacitly except.

6:40

In the idea.

6:44

Of the idea, the

6:46

idea. That. There is

6:48

something bigger than us. And

6:50

metics comes. With. Certain power

6:53

and understanding and influence on what

6:55

we are and how we should

6:57

be. That's my choice. I am

7:00

not gonna put that choice on

7:02

you and our society shouldn't either.

7:04

And I'll tell you why my

7:06

father chew on this. Like.

7:09

A kid on a weetabix. And

7:11

he gave of famous Speech and Nineteen

7:13

Eighty Four that you can look up.

7:17

At Notre Dame. Where

7:19

he talked about. The.

7:23

Combination. Of

7:25

being Catholic and a public official.

7:29

Now the political analysis in the right is very simple.

7:32

If you're Catholic been you should tell everybody that you're

7:34

Catholic And here's what you believe in. You should

7:36

advocate for the same. My father did not see it

7:38

that way. He said this is a secular society

7:40

or religion as a law so I will respect legal

7:42

standard And a legal standard was row know. Weakness in

7:44

his argument was. But you

7:47

can advocate for something other than the row.

7:49

you advocate for changes in the law, the

7:51

time, and you're not doing that when it

7:53

comes to this, which was really tantamount to

7:55

him having to own that what he was

7:58

was pro choice. Which

8:00

is also what the law was. but that

8:02

was also his political thinks that he would

8:04

say it's not that simple. Because of all

8:06

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8:08

reproductive rights that way. She wouldn't exercise her

8:11

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8:13

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Mouse. The dog

14:15

that caught the car. Being careful what you

14:17

wish for That Republicans have made this a

14:19

bogeyman for a long time. Instead of talking

14:21

about issues that are a function of common

14:24

concern that matter more need attention they dwelled

14:26

on this is a culture war, or some

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kind of proxy effect of figuring out which

14:30

side are better people. And

14:32

the right or better people's because they're

14:34

pro life which I guess means that

14:36

anybody else is what pro death. I

14:39

don't see it has been just about

14:41

abortion because once you've done what you've

14:43

done which is taken away a woman's.

14:45

Personal. Agency over her own body.

14:48

Who knows where? Ghosts? And

14:50

how can be applied? Slippery slope is

14:52

what that's called in argument. And

14:55

we don't know where goes now, but you've done

14:57

it. Said you

15:00

wanted to do it. He said

15:02

the elections mattered. Visit: Need the

15:04

judges to do at everybody? Believe

15:06

this bullshit Koolaid. That star a

15:08

decisive is so powerful and I

15:10

can't tell you how I feel

15:12

about it. He issue I'd have

15:14

to see that space. Bullshit.

15:18

People who are picked by Republicans

15:20

are anti reproductive rights and that's

15:23

why they got on the bench

15:25

just like Amy Coney Barrett. Just

15:28

like the other ones and they

15:30

sure as shit we're going to

15:32

get rid of Rose soon as

15:34

they had a chance. And they

15:36

did. And that's why the confirmation

15:38

process for justices is bullshit and

15:41

should change in both sides abuse

15:43

it. Judges.

15:46

Okay, Should. Tell

15:48

you. Where. Their politics

15:50

or on things you should know

15:53

and the idea that them not

15:55

telling you is some kind of

15:57

bridge of transparency and fairness and.

16:00

The opposite is true, and in fact,

16:02

even though it's very controversial and people

16:04

keep telling me to stop saying it

16:06

with him my business. I feel the

16:08

same way now. Bad journalism. It

16:11

used to be that journalists don't

16:13

tell you what their position as

16:15

on things because that's not what

16:17

they're there to do or not

16:19

there to influence your idea of

16:21

preference. And tobias, they are reporting

16:23

by telling you how they think

16:25

and feel. Okay, but I think

16:27

it's gotten more nuanced, more complicated,

16:29

at least, than that's there's a

16:31

difference between me saying I'm only

16:34

going to talk about reproductive rights

16:36

one way because I only see

16:38

them one way. And.

16:40

Letting you know what I think about

16:43

reproductive rights and then being fair my

16:45

coverage of the same would you may

16:47

now except more readily because you know

16:49

where I'm coming from and you don't

16:52

have to be suspicious. I think that's

16:54

where we are in society today. I.

16:57

Think that you should err on

16:59

the side of transparency. That's why

17:01

I tell you. Trump did me

17:03

and by extension my family's dirty.

17:06

He made life harder for them.

17:09

Because. It suited him. In.

17:11

How to distract

17:13

and deflect. My

17:16

criticism of him in my report. It.

17:20

And in my analyses and I

17:22

hold that against him and that

17:24

alone would mean I wouldn't vote

17:26

for the guy. Ny

17:28

tell you that not because I'm telling you to vote

17:30

former against them. That's your choice.

17:33

Okay, I'm just telling you where I'm coming

17:35

from. That's why I want to hear people

17:37

saying i must be get it right right?

17:40

Because they're people who think I'm a Trump

17:42

supporter after what I just told you. Okay,

17:45

I. Mean, just think about how crazy

17:47

this culture is. How

17:49

crazy or politics are? how side load

17:51

the thinking is. How tribal it is

17:53

that they're going to say that I'm

17:56

a Trump guy. When. I just

17:58

told you something that know. The journalist

18:00

will tell you. Which.

18:03

Is that I'm not a seizure

18:05

of thing? So. That's

18:08

the kind of thinking and

18:10

perversity. That. Created this

18:13

Abortion Dynamics. It's not

18:15

just about abortion. That's.

18:17

One decision. There.

18:20

Are other ones? And.

18:22

Once you start taking away some bodies

18:24

right over their own body, By.

18:27

Saying well, but there's another person involved. It

18:31

gets messy. And. Now you have

18:33

to deal with it and they got their

18:35

ass kicked in the mid terms. Now

18:38

you can look at the midterms and say, wait a minute

18:40

it wound up in a deadlock. How they get their ass

18:42

kicked because we're supposed to be read way. That's why. And

18:45

a big reason why wasn't was women. And

18:48

their allies. Single

18:51

women vote Democrat Married women tend

18:53

to break fifty fifty to break

18:55

republican. Why? Are

18:58

several reasons. One.

19:00

Of them is women traditionally have voted

19:02

the way their husbands do and how

19:04

they're told to. Is that changing here?

19:07

Is. That sounds good. Yeah, I don't think

19:09

anybody should vote, but since the death toll

19:11

do by your spouse, why else? Well, they

19:13

tend to be married and have families and

19:15

of different kinds of concerns and economic realities

19:18

on them that go beyond their own personal

19:20

political preferences. I'm more worried

19:22

about the kids and safety and

19:24

you know that than just personal

19:26

safety. impersonal concerns person wants? There

19:29

are other reasons as well. So they'd always

19:31

said they wanted this and now they got

19:33

it. And. It's going to cost them

19:35

politically. Because. They are the dog the

19:38

caught the car. Now

19:40

it's solid him up with

19:42

evangelicals. But evangelicals. Are

19:44

significant a number, but not. In

19:47

any way comparable to women. right?

19:50

Overall, just non evangelical

19:52

women. And

19:54

evangelicals have just become another

19:56

special interest group. Why?

19:59

Do I say that? Una being a little

20:01

bit negative or dismissive. Yeah, And

20:04

I'll tell you why. Same reason I feel

20:06

differently. About

20:09

the following situation So

20:11

every. Mass. Organization.

20:15

That has. Control.

20:17

Over Kids is going to

20:19

have a certain percentage of

20:21

pedophiles and it's ranks. Okay,

20:24

why it's because it's it's the

20:26

percentages of dealing with kids in

20:28

the kinds of people they gravitate towards

20:30

wanting to deal with kids. I'm not

20:33

saying that people want to work with

20:35

kids are pedophiles. I'm saying that pedophiles

20:37

like to get close to kids. That's

20:40

when at the same very different things.

20:42

My mom I have preferred Special Education

20:45

Teacher or Gates Bowie. Me I get

20:47

it. Where I'm saying is, so

20:49

that's true. Why does it bother me

20:51

more. When. It's the Catholic Church.

20:53

Well, I'm Catholic but also because I

20:55

believe that they should have a higher

20:58

standard. They're supposed to be

21:00

about something bigger than themselves. Okay,

21:03

That's. How I feel about Evangelicals we even more

21:06

so all they do is throw their faith in

21:08

your face about how they got a live by

21:10

the good book and you're going to hell in

21:12

all these judgments sheds that they just don't apply

21:15

to themselves or their choice structure over who should

21:17

be leading us. The.

21:19

Way they twisted themselves up to

21:22

make trump. Okay, Is.

21:24

Embarrassing. For people who

21:26

supposed to have the sense of orthodoxy

21:28

about morality. Embarrassing. and by

21:31

the way, Trump doesn't even share

21:33

their ideology on it. It was

21:35

always an article of convenience with

21:37

him to create a constituency, and

21:39

they knew that they went along

21:41

with it anyway. And.

21:43

Now he's afraid of it because he knows

21:45

he can beat him. So he is changing.

21:48

The. Arizona law comes out. Because.

21:51

Now it's state by state rights

21:53

and he doesn't understand the law.

21:55

He doesn't understand logic of philosophy

21:57

or jurisprudence. So feet, you know,

21:59

course. The going to keep fucking it up. And

22:02

he's gonna say this is what everybody wanted

22:04

was our state by state. that's not true

22:06

or majority of this country is a function

22:09

of common Concern is in favor of reproductive

22:11

rights and wanted a national standard Google it.

22:14

And you probably should have one. Row.

22:18

Was. Not the best reason the

22:21

case of it's kind. It

22:23

had weaknesses a number of rights of

22:25

the isolation of a right to privacy

22:27

that isn't specifically articulated now, their hypocrisy

22:30

within that yes, because while of the

22:32

that is true, Scalia had no problem

22:34

reading a right of an individual right

22:36

to bear arms into the Second Amendment

22:39

when it it's was not expressly articulated,

22:41

nor had it ever been found in

22:43

jurisprudence of the the points in which

22:45

he found it. Is. There

22:48

a boppers Yes, Weiss to Scalia

22:50

may rest in peace for his

22:52

genius for his greatness was a

22:54

human being with political preferences. Who.

22:57

Was a big gun guy? Shudder. So.

23:03

State. By State is not what the people

23:05

wanted. Trump is wrong. And I

23:07

argue lying because I think he knows

23:09

that. He made

23:11

a choice Now he's gotta live with it

23:13

and it could beat him. The.

23:16

Why? Well, that's what the midterms taught us.

23:18

but this will be different. this things and

23:20

transpired since the mid. It'll make people feel

23:23

differently. Maybe. Maybe. Reproductive

23:26

Rights. Is not a

23:28

first, second, or third ticket item, even

23:30

among democrats, but it is higher. And

23:33

with independence it is higher than it usually

23:35

is. And.

23:38

They've never really had it to

23:41

vote on before in a presidential

23:43

elections. With it being gone as

23:45

opposed to the chance that it

23:47

could be gone, those are very

23:49

different things and politically and when

23:51

it comes to rights, taking away

23:53

or right. Is. A very,

23:55

very dangerous thing to do. Very.

23:59

Dangerous. And you can say

24:01

until you're blue in the face, but what about the

24:03

rights of the person in the belly? People.

24:07

Who. Are passionate about

24:09

reproductive rights, Are. Just

24:11

as likely to reject the notion. As

24:14

they are to accept it and factor more likely

24:16

to reject. Because they

24:18

choose to believe the viability

24:20

standard. That. Not

24:23

all. Groups of

24:25

cells in the belly of the

24:27

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24:29

between a zygote fetus and a

24:31

viable. Human. Beings

24:33

human baby were aware of words. you

24:35

want Fetus I guess is the right

24:37

word. But. There's

24:40

a difference. And. It's a distinction

24:42

with a difference that matters legally.

24:45

And matters in terms of making that decision.

24:48

That's why the republicans.

24:52

Added. To their argument

24:54

against the other side to include what. What's

24:57

their big point when you talk about abortion?

24:59

What? What Are they talk about constantly? Need

25:02

term abortion rights look of how

25:04

often late term abortions happen. Look

25:07

up the circumstances under which they happen.

25:10

This. Is an edge. Issue

25:13

It is taking something

25:15

that is a. Possibility.

25:19

A once in a while and almost

25:21

never and making it. The

25:23

main. Why? Political convenience

25:26

to complete bullshit thing. Now

25:35

the democrats as they have this

25:37

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25:39

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25:41

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25:43

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25:45

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Why is that wrong? Said always be between the doctor

28:50

and the mother and what the hell for that? Yeah,

28:52

but it doesn't sound that. Politically

28:55

unsatisfying. Unwieldy. It seems

28:57

to suggest that you don't give a

28:59

shit about the baby inside. So

29:03

it is fueled. The

29:05

extension and continuation of this

29:07

conflict. But. We've

29:10

never had a presidential election. Where was

29:12

happening? In the midst of

29:15

the right having been taken away, the nightmare

29:17

has been realized and I think that people

29:19

are gonna vote on it. And I think

29:21

Donald Trump knows that he is the dog

29:24

who caught the parts and is probably pissed

29:26

because he never gave a shit about this

29:28

issue in the first place. He only was

29:30

doing what he was doing to help himself.

29:33

We was just the citizens, he was

29:35

pro choice. And

29:38

now we things are getting beat up so is

29:40

agonizing over what to do about it's the Arizona

29:42

state law comes out basically banning oil abortions. He

29:44

says what we're going to work at out they

29:46

went too far. How the fuck you can work

29:49

it out. What? Are

29:51

you saying you wonder why people worry about you

29:53

being an autocrat in a desperate how do you

29:55

think it sounds when a President says don't worry

29:57

about it I'll figure out that Tenth Amendment does

29:59

states right as. There my up I know

30:01

the supreme court said it to state issue.

30:03

Now I'll fix it When you saying. You.

30:06

You going to meddle with the States? ability? To

30:09

make it's own laws. Would. You just

30:11

advocated for by overturning Roe and making it

30:13

a states right as you. It

30:16

doesn't even make sense. There's like no

30:18

intelligence to what the guy says. It's

30:20

always about convenience. Just.

30:22

Grotesque convenience.

30:25

That's. What it is yeah but he got a

30:28

right but as I'm pro life Okay good now you

30:30

own it. You

30:32

own their parker, See that you don't give

30:34

a shit about these lives once they come

30:36

out. And you don't care about the policies

30:38

and the requirements and the compassion. That.

30:40

We need. For. People

30:43

who are in hard spaces

30:45

and impoverished. And under

30:47

educated. Without. Opportunity.

30:50

And they wind up doing bad things

30:52

like selling drugs and taking drugs and

30:55

committing crimes because they don't have the

30:57

access, opportunity and avenues the dignity. And

30:59

you ignore that and you judge them

31:01

for it. and you relieve yourself of

31:04

the moral burden to help your brother

31:06

and sister as Jesus instructed you and

31:08

spend his life knowing, spending an inordinate

31:11

amount of time among the least of

31:13

us, not the best of us have.

31:15

You want to make that kind of

31:18

distance. So

31:20

how can it be that you

31:22

are so deeply righteous? When.

31:25

The regards as falls away. I.

31:28

Don't buy it. but it doesn't matter.

31:32

Because. It's for you and your choice to

31:34

make would you're gonna have to live

31:36

with it. And I don't mean in

31:38

here, I mean at the ballot box.

31:41

Because they're common. Now

31:44

is begin issue as immigration?

31:46

Nope. And as Bogeyman

31:48

go, I'd rather have Donald Trump's Bogeyman

31:50

have been the dog caught the car.

31:53

Bambee! By non the borders, the

31:55

fact that he hasn't put executive

31:58

orders in place, The

32:00

six months ago. Baffles

32:03

me now. the intelligent though

32:05

I believe overthinking democrat will

32:07

say to me. Yeah

32:09

but didn't you see what happened when trump the going

32:11

to throw him out in court but it would still

32:13

show that you were trying. And

32:16

the situation is different than when Trump did. It

32:18

is more of an emergency situations, more of a

32:20

case to be made as better case to be

32:22

made. Base. Was

32:24

gonna beat him. So as Bogeyman arguments,

32:27

go wiser Bogeyman because you should check

32:29

out our episode when it comes out

32:31

about how I feel about the realities

32:33

of the border. It's. A Bogeyman

32:35

issue. In. Terms of the

32:37

facts: They're bringing crime. They're bringing

32:40

rapists and murderers. and as some

32:42

I suppose a guy that people.

32:45

Little. Kennedy Trump there. As

32:47

if ah, Bobby and Trump or one running together.

32:52

As Bogeyman go, I'd rather have the reproductive

32:54

rights problem because I don't think there's many

32:56

people who vote on maps as the border

32:58

problems. But I do believe that reproductive rights

33:01

and I'm not calling the issue just abortion

33:03

because it isn't. There

33:05

a lot of women. Who. Are pissed

33:07

off about this. And men who are

33:09

pissed off about this. Not because they're

33:12

so anxious to have abortions. But

33:15

because. They. Feel that

33:17

they just witnessed a right being taken

33:19

away. That should

33:21

matter. So. I

33:23

think it's coming back to haunt

33:26

that dogs as just latched on

33:28

to a tire that's moving at

33:30

forty miles an hour. And

33:32

I do not think it ends well.

33:35

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33:37

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33:39

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