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The

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Hello and welcome to the Chicane Podcast

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, where we discuss all things in

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the sim racing world . I'm your host , jason Rivera

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, and I'm joined here again today by

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Eric and Jeff . How are you guys doing ?

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Doing good man . Doing well , doing well . How are you guys doing Doing good man ?

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Doing well , doing well . How are you guys doing , Jason

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? You doing well .

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I'm doing good man . I just returned from travel

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. So , if you guys didn't

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know , I've been away on

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travel for almost

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a three-week vacation

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out in Europe and just

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getting back into things and a

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lot of changes on the internet

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and the news

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and stuff . So we need to cover some of these

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things . So today we're

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going to cover F1 24

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, the new game and its post-launch

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and we'll go over thoughts on that for

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the new game and it's post-launch , and we'll go over thoughts

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on that . Uh , jeff's gonna cover real life , some f1 real life regulations

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that are changing and

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we're also going to go over some updates to

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the peripheral used

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for in um for sim magic

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, uh hardware

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to for , uh , ps5

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compatibility . Uh

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, eric's going to cover that and I'll go over

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iRacing . But before

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that I want to give the mic

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over to mr eric kelly . He has

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an announcement here and we

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want to congratulate him , but I want to give

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him the honors to make that announcement

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here on the podcast .

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So , eric , please , hey

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man , I really appreciate it . Just to keep it quick , I graduated from the leadership

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program from the 100 Black Men of America . The purpose of the organization

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is to mentor young boys from

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single-parent homes , but reality

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is we are mentoring all kids . Shape

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, sizes , colors , sex , it doesn't

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matter , because you know we see . The benefit

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in this institute is um

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. Only 24 of us were chosen

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from dozens

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and dozens of chapters in the us and

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also in london and turks

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and caicos in the caribbean , so it was a big

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honor . Um . They put on a

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nice little shindig for us

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at the national conference this past week in Atlanta

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. It

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was an amazing turnout . We had some

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awesome people come . Vice

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President Kamala

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Harris and some

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of her crew came out and thanked

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us for our support in the past and stuff , and

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it was just a wonderful time , man , and

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I'm honored Well

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congratulations , man Sorry .

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Good for you , man . Good for you . That's

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big time , man . The vice president and all that

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. That's good stuff , man . Good stuff , good to see

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people , good people , doing good things .

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I seen this man on social media

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with suits on and all kinds of

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stuff and awards . And I was

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like man , wow this , you know that's

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, that's really awesome . I know

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how long have you been working on

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this Cause I know it's been a few years right

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.

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So I've been in the organization for only three years

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. This program is actually

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a six month program . OK

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but the purpose

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it kind of designed it to where we're tackling

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some issues that the program has . That

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also like if if we were to fix these in the program

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, it would also help the community . But

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my particular group's project was

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to figure out how to establish

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and grow chapters in other countries . Project

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was to figure out how to establish and grow chapters in other countries . So I got a chance to

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interview , uh and work with people from london and also turks

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and caicos on their issues that they have with

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trying to establish programs like this that

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are designed to help , you know , kids

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in need awesome

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man .

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so we'll add links in the description

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for this organization

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that way , if you guys are interested , anyone

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that's listening wants to check it out then

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we'll have links in the description

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there for you to check it out . Ok , so

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with that I want to roll

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right into this . I've

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been away for a while . I've

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been away while this F one

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24 game launched , so

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can you both please just

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uh , I want to hear your thoughts on

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the game . I have my thoughts that that

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I will . I will

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uh publish it here in a second , but

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I would like to hear uh , both

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of you , since you've had more time with the game

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than I have , so I will , I

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will give this to eric and jeff and

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you guys can can uh

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share your thoughts and opinions on

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on the matter so .

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So , jeff , you don't mind me going first , because

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I I didn't buy the game , so

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my opinions are going to be very concise

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okay , go for it , buddy based

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on feedback I've gotten from everybody

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. Nobody loves this game . Uh

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, they talk about the mechanics being different

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and it being more

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arcadey , and just not

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pleased with the game at all , and all

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I have to say is good

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old ea right . Well , you're Right . Where

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you own the licenses , you

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can do whatever you want to do .

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All right . So I

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saw all the YouTubes , all

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the people going out there . They're jumping out

5:53

quickly trying to get a review out and

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there wasn't a single person that had

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anything nice to say about this game . But

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I thought I'm going

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to give people the benefit of the doubt . So

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I was like these people are putting videos out just to get the clicks . Nobody wants to go out

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and say it's a good game . Everybody wants to get the clicks because

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they're saying it's a bad game , it's trash

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. The handling , the realism , whatever

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, that's the easy button . So

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I was like nope , I'm going to buy the game . Bought

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it Big

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F1 fan . It's really like the only way you can jump in and race with real livery . And boy , again

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, no mouse . Here we are . We put a man on the moon like I don't know how many decades ago .

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We can't get a game with a mouse . It's crazy . It's a pc game without a mouse

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support . Just think about that . Yeah , let's say

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that again . Let that sink in .

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Yeah , so anyways , we'll move past that . But

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, like first things , it's just that my

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biggest gripe is you can point the

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car wherever you want to go

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, almost regardless of the how fast

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you're going and the car is going to turn

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. It's just unrealistic

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to think that you , like you're going to be going

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, you know however fast you're going around

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a corner and that car is going to stick it . Just it

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just doesn't happen . The handling characteristics

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in the you know what I think they call it the

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engine and the handling of the

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the game just is

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unrealistic . It's like cruising usa

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back in like the 80s . You know , you point the car where

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you want it , it goes , I know that's

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it is what it is , man um

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I had a hard time , um

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, finding some graphic settings

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that made

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it look good . You

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know you're going down the straightaway at spa

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and it just didn't have the crispness

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that you're that I was expecting

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of an ea game . I really had to get in there and really

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dig and grind and find some settings

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that made it look halfway decent , um

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, but the thing that really did it for me is

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I jumped back in 23 immediately

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after and I was like this game is

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better on everything . It's almost

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like they released them in the wrong order . Uh

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, the handling . I'm not saying 23 is great handling

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characteristics , but it's just way better . The

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graphics I felt were better and crisper , maybe

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a little bit oversaturated , um

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, but honestly it was a better product

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. You know , from the user interface to

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you know the actual gameplay . So

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, um , I'm not

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gonna , you know , poison the well

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and tell people if I'm gonna return it or not . You know

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I'll let people make their own decision on that and

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know if they're gonna buy it or not , but I'll

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probably stick with using playing

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f123 more . So , jason

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, you want anything ? Ed ?

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yes , um , the the

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only thing I liked about the game and

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this is one thing , and it's actually

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mind-boggling that you

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you're what I'm hearing is that

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the graphics are better on an

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older game , which is weird . You

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know that's . That's not usually the case . Um

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, you expect something new to

8:52

be progressively better

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, even if it's that tiny

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bit , you know , but you still have this

8:58

expectation of a game being better yeah

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, and it's just .

9:02

That's my opinion too . So , everybody you know , go

9:04

in with your eyes wide open , make your own opinion , but go

9:06

ahead .

9:06

Jason , sorry to jump on you or jump over you no

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, I mean you basically took

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the words out of my mouth . Man , the car feels

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way too pointy , it has way too much grip

9:15

. The um , the

9:18

graphics , I didn't really notice . I

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don't know . You know most of my

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time is on acc , so I mean

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you spend way more time than I do

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. So you know you're you're our f1 guru

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expert on this stuff . But you

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know you go in with a optimistic

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attitude and positive

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and you know it's always let down

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. So I mean I was always

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the one that said , hey , let's support the

9:45

, but the developers aren't supporting us . You

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know what I mean ? That's just the bottom line

9:50

. They're continuing

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to just pretend

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like they care about

9:56

us or the gamer and

9:59

the enthusiast , the ones

10:02

that want things , and they just

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don't deliver . So right now I don't

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recommend anyone purchase it at full

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price . I would wait for a

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sale or if there's some sort

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of demo that you can try the game and

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judge it for yourselves , that's

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probably it Right .

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Okay , that's probably the best way to put it is I wouldn't

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. I wouldn't if I had to do it over again .

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I wouldn't pay full price , but if I could get it on sale

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, sure what people are saying , because

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they're paid to say these things , you

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never know what kind of deal was made

10:32

. In the background , a

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reviewer can say , oh , my

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thoughts are my own , but then they're

10:53

hiding details or hiding things

10:56

from you , and then you discover things that

10:58

are not too good . You know what I mean . So just gather

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the reviews , do the research

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and then , if there's a demo

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or there's a sale , I recommend , if

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you're on PC , you should be buying

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this game on Steam , because Steam will allow

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refunds . So you can , you

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yourself . Jeff , if you feel like you want

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to stay with F1 23 , then you

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need to not play the game , because I think

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there's a two hour limit with refunds on

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steam . So if you're over two

11:27

hours , you might be . Uh , you

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should try it anyway Right

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, but you should still try , cause I've seen where , even

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if you you know

11:38

, if you if you request a refund , they sometimes

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they'll , they'll honor it and especially if it's your first

11:42

time , you know know , asking for a refund .

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So yeah , let

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me ask a quick question it got updated liveries

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uh there is that you know

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yeah , well , I

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was gonna ask you know me and jeff were kind of talking

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about this before the podcast started . But a

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lot of the sim games , uh

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, when they first come out they were kind of

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trash or

12:06

rough around the edges , I'll say what do you

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? guys think the ? What do you guys think the

12:10

odds of them fixing f124

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? Or will it just in ea fashion

12:15

? They just make promises on the next game

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well , let's

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say they did eric .

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Let's say they fixed the issues and

12:23

they made it feel like f123 , because

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that's what the game that's , that's

12:27

that's what the gamers want . The gamers

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want the game to feel like the previous game

12:31

. They , they're not . They're

12:34

obviously trying to . They're trying new

12:36

things and it's not working out . So how do you fix

12:38

that ? You revert back to the

12:41

previous game , right , so then ? So

12:43

then I'm , I'm just playing a reskinned

12:45

game for $70 .

12:47

I mean that that wouldn't

12:49

be abnormal you know EA

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standards .

12:53

Yeah so so let's look

12:55

at it from like an EA perspective . So

12:57

this is the first year that they came

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out with a new NCAA

13:02

college football game in a handful

13:04

of years and it is light

13:07

years ahead of what it was

13:09

, you know I think that

13:11

they had a Madden from what I've seen . Yeah , I mean they

13:13

knocked it out of the park . So

13:18

if it was me in charge of EA , hey

13:20

, listen , if we need to take a knee for a year , we're going

13:22

to start with a clean slate . Don't build

13:25

off of 23 . You

13:27

know , I don't know what the crowd . You know if the return

13:29

on the investment is how many people are buying this stuff

13:32

to make it worthwhile . But you

13:34

know , start from the ground up , like you did with the new

13:36

college football . Build a new engine

13:38

and give us a new , improved

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product , not a you know

13:43

version 1.0

13:45

1.2 update I'm gonna .

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I'm gonna butt in here . The problem with that is

13:49

that ea is a yearly

13:51

release model . There's

13:54

just not enough time and development to cook

13:56

up a new engine they want

13:58

to ncaa .

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So for college football they didn't release one for like

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seven years . I'm not taking , I'm not saying

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don't release an F1 for seven years , but

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don't release one for 25

14:09

and come out with a solid one for 26 .

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See , here's my opinion on that . Right with

14:15

the NCAA thing , my

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opinion is they

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didn't release one because it probably wasn't selling

14:24

. This is my opinion . I don't want to hurt

14:26

anybody's or fans' feelings on

14:28

it . And then when it does come out

14:30

, seven years later , you're saying there's

14:32

light years ahead and it's because you haven't

14:35

had one . And now it's built

14:37

on this new technology

14:39

that we have now the new consoles

14:42

, the new . That's fair .

14:44

You know what I'm trying to say .

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You haven't had it . You haven't had it . So when you finally see it and

14:50

now you're what two generations

14:52

ahead it's it's

14:54

gonna look amazing you know what I'm saying

14:56

?

14:57

no , you make a very valid point yeah

14:59

, and I'll say

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um , even because

15:03

I've watched a lot of content on it and

15:06

I have close friends that are kind of in

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the EA ecosystem on other games

15:10

, especially like Madden and stuff like that , and

15:13

it's kind of like what you're

15:15

saying you have a year there

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For them to come out with a new game every year . They don't have the time to

15:20

actually deep dive and develop a

15:22

new system like that , but

15:26

they are fine coming out with games that are very close to the same every

15:29

year , updating

15:31

some of the stats . So it

15:34

would be very beneficial for the customer

15:36

if they did do what Jeff was saying

15:39

, like take a break and either

15:41

just kind of get F1

15:44

24 to the point that they kind of promised

15:46

initially .

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That's what we really want . That's

15:49

what we all want .

15:50

Yeah , but they're , you know , they're

15:53

not going to bro let's

15:55

not hop the license and give it to somebody else . That

15:57

will give us what we're looking for .

15:59

Oh man , that would be wild . Yeah , that

16:01

would be crazy .

16:04

You know the biggest thing .

16:05

I think about EAa , jason and you

16:07

remember this . The damn mass

16:09

effect . Mass

16:12

effect came out and that game

16:14

was already a great universe

16:17

, right and ?

16:18

and they just crumpled

16:20

it up bro they

16:22

, they crumpled it up , yeah they

16:25

stamped the logo on there and once they

16:27

did that , it just , it just faded

16:30

and just faded . Well

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, that's f124 for you guys

16:36

. Um , I

16:39

hope it gets better but , like I said

16:41

, I don't see it getting any

16:43

better than the previous gen

16:45

game , if that makes sense , because

16:48

other than a new , updated , uh

16:50

, what is it career ? Uh

16:52

, it's not the my team , it's the my driver

16:54

career , that's the only thing new

16:57

the game has . I mean I

17:01

might pick it up again . I refunded the game

17:03

. I'm fed up with it

17:05

, I'm upset and I don't feel

17:07

like paying $70 for a game that I'm

17:10

just simply not going to play .

17:12

To your point that you were texting earlier about is

17:15

$80 goes a long way with cars and tracks

17:17

and iRacing .

17:18

Right , and we're going to cover iRacing to see how

17:21

that money can work for you , for

17:23

the F1 enthusiast

17:25

and the f1 that's chasing

17:27

that and wants to have a grid . That's

17:30

fair , because that's not

17:32

even go into the online , because f1

17:34

online is terrible

17:37

. You know what I mean the , the multiplayer

17:39

. None of us play the multiplayer

17:41

. We always play the , uh , the

17:44

single player . Because the multiplayer

17:46

is it's , it's not

17:48

good , it doesn't have a good net code , it lags

17:50

, you know it's just it's really bad

17:53

.

17:53

You know what I mean licenses , isn't really

17:55

squared away man , I

17:57

didn't know that , that's .

17:59

That's new to me .

18:00

I don't play f1 much you should

18:02

try it , eric , because I know you got the which

18:04

one . You got 23, . Right , 22? , 23

18:07

?

18:07

Either 22 , or Either 22

18:10

or 23 . That's what I was going to say too . As far as

18:12

it being on sale , the way things are going

18:14

, it'll be on sale real soon , because they gave away

18:16

.

18:16

Oh yeah , it'll be on sale .

18:18

Definitely 22 or 23 for

18:21

free as a part of the PlayStation

18:23

subscription earlier this year .

18:25

so yeah , because they get rid of them . That's how

18:27

they get rid of a title

18:29

. They'll send it to game pass or they'll

18:31

send it to playstation plus or whatever

18:33

it is , and that's how they send it to its

18:35

death . You know what I mean . They'll get the

18:37

, the very little money from the , from

18:40

the company , from sony

18:42

or from xbox , that'll pay them to host

18:44

that game on the server and then that's it . That'll

18:47

be the end of it For whatever time

18:49

period it's on there , and then it's gone forever .

18:52

Best case scenario .

18:55

Again , this is not an

18:57

EA bashing podcast . I

18:59

hope everyone knows we gave it a fair

19:01

shot . We paid real life

19:04

US dollars for this . No one paid

19:06

us to buy the game . No

19:09

one gave us a code . So you're

19:11

hearing it from three different

19:13

perspectives . Right , you're hearing it from eric's

19:15

mind and jeff's . So

19:17

with that , um

19:20

, I'm gonna hand this over to Jeff

19:22

and he's actually going to cover some

19:25

news that he has to share

19:27

with F1 , the

19:30

actual F1 championship

19:32

, sport in real life and regulations

19:34

and some changes . So I'll hand this over to

19:36

Jeff .

19:37

Yeah , thanks , jason . So FIA

19:39

came out with some new updates to the next

19:42

generation F1 cars , so

19:45

I'm going to cover here . They got six big

19:48

updates that I'll touch on here and then kind

19:50

of reach out to you guys because I got some points that

19:52

I'd like to discuss . So I'm going

19:55

to jump right in here . So first is a more powerful

19:57

hybrid engine increased electrical power

19:59

, hybrid engines

20:01

with 100% sustainable fuel , an

20:04

agile car concept at the heart of regulations

20:07

to promote closer and more exciting racing

20:09

. A lighter , smaller car

20:12

to improve efficiency and handling . And

20:14

then manual override modes to provide

20:17

following cars with a boost of energy

20:19

and new active aerodynamics

20:21

. So a big portion of this

20:23

is the new power unit

20:26

is the world's most

20:28

efficient hybrid to enhance to deliver

20:30

more power than the current one . It's

20:33

a 300% increase in

20:35

electrical power with 100%

20:37

sustainable fuel , so

20:40

it's double the energy recovery

20:43

during braking versus the 22

20:45

cars .

20:48

These are Jeff . These are 2026

20:50

regs , right 26 yes , 26

20:53

yep so we're gonna see

20:55

audi come in in 26 eric

20:57

. That is correct . Yeah , that's gonna be nice yeah

20:59

uh the chassis .

21:01

Uh , I'm not gonna get into it here , but , in

21:03

summary , the car is going to be lighter , about

21:06

20 kilograms lighter excuse , 30

21:08

kilograms lighter . It's going to be shorter

21:11

and more narrow . The

21:13

thought is that it's going to create better wheel-to-wheel

21:15

racing . It's going

21:17

to be . An interesting point here is

21:19

the downforce is going to be reduced

21:22

by 30% . That

21:26

kind of rolls into some of the questions I got for you guys

21:28

. They got a bunch of new aerodynamics

21:30

, some modes z mode and x

21:32

mode uh , gives the ability for active

21:34

arrow on the front and rear wing , so

21:36

down the straightaway , so kind of like a uh

21:38

, I think of a drs on steroids , if you will

21:40

um , and

21:43

then , uh , some safety updates

21:46

, which is probably be expected every time they get

21:48

a . Uh . A new update for the car

21:50

, uh , and this is the one that are really going to interested

21:52

in you guys is the new hybrid

21:54

engines powered by 100 sustainable

21:56

fuels . Um , and this is the

21:58

regulation uh , that is the fia

22:01

goal of net zero in 2030

22:03

. So , after all everything I said

22:05

, gentlemen , my first question to you guys

22:07

is and I know where

22:09

I stand on this , but I want to hear other people is

22:12

when you watch F1

22:14

and motorsports in general

22:16

? Are you concerned

22:19

about being net

22:21

neutral and making

22:25

sure that you're 100% sustainable fuels

22:27

and things like that making sure

22:30

that you're 100% sustainable fuels and things like that

22:32

? I'll start the conversation off . I miss the V10s

22:35

of F1 , the sounds

22:37

, the speeds . We have all

22:39

this technology . We're

22:43

kind of going backwards in car development . The car is going to be slower

22:45

, smaller , you might get better

22:47

racing , but I

22:49

like the cars going fast , I like

22:52

them being loud . I think the

22:54

, the hybrid over the the hybrid

22:56

uh boost that you get with the battery

22:58

is cool , but don't take it at

23:00

, don't take away the power and things like that . So

23:02

I've said enough , gentlemen .

23:04

I want to hear what you have to think about this well

23:07

, it

23:10

sounds like these cars are

23:13

probably gonna go electric , you know

23:15

? I mean , we already have formula e if

23:17

you're concerned about emissions

23:20

and the environment yeah

23:22

but this is motorsport

23:25

, man , you know , this is motorsport

23:27

, this is , yeah , you know

23:29

that's like the

23:31

nfl being worried about peter

23:34

, yeah , like .

23:36

Like it's tongue-in-cheek

23:38

when they say this stuff . Right , because it's 100

23:41

, net , net neutral , but

23:43

max verstappen and all these dudes

23:45

are taking private jets . You

23:48

know , you're like , I got it . You're

23:51

trying to appeal to that portion

23:53

of the fan base , but I

23:56

think and this is Jeff Smart's opinion here the

23:59

vast majority of F1 fans want

24:02

to see loud cars

24:04

, v10s , speed .

24:05

The screaming car coming around the corner . The screaming car

24:08

, yes absolutely .

24:10

Yep , yep , that's my opinion . I oh

24:12

and I did read some articles here that there

24:14

are a number of f1

24:17

teams that are

24:19

extremely

24:21

dissatisfied , to the point they are protesting

24:24

the f1 on some of these regulations

24:26

. I know red bull is one

24:29

of them , so that's technically two teams , um

24:31

, but I did think that ferrari mercedes jumped

24:33

in there too with some of this is just not

24:36

good for f1 , the brand

24:38

. Well , jeff , you got to think , though , when you

24:40

mention mercedes .

24:42

Mercedes is a power unit , so

24:44

who uses their . So that's . That's

24:46

basically all the teams right there you know

24:48

, yeah , it there's . you have

24:50

the Red Bull power unit , because

24:53

they have their own power unit now . It used to be

24:55

Honda . It is a Honda . Let's not pretend

24:57

that . It's not a Honda , it's a

24:59

Japanese engine in there . It's

25:01

just rebranded to say Red

25:04

Bull . And then you have their Mercedes

25:06

powertrain and I forget

25:08

the other one , but I'm pretty sure , oh , ferrari

25:10

, ferrari , yeah . So , aston

25:13

Martin , williams , they all use

25:15

Mercedes . So if their motor is

25:18

going to be , if their team , if

25:20

those companies are going to have to go through those

25:23

many changes , it's going to be a . I

25:25

don't think that's going to fly man . I really

25:27

don't , to be honest with you . I hope you're right .

25:29

I really don't , to be honest with you . I hope you're right . I hope that there's some type

25:31

of update to it , but

25:39

I'd imagine that the FIA put a lot of money into research and development and building

25:41

test vehicles and test cars and test aero to make this stuff

25:43

. So time will tell . I'm hopefully

25:45

optimistic that they're going to walk back some of this stuff

25:47

, but

25:50

I don't know and I'm with you , man .

25:51

I wish they would bring the damn v10s

25:53

back you know what I mean

25:55

.

25:56

There's those , you know I I send you a bunch

25:58

of the instagram videos of them . You know the

26:00

f , the , the v10 car coming

26:02

by and the sound that it makes .

26:03

Yeah , yeah , the comparison .

26:04

You know the the current car

26:07

coming down , you're like it's not even comparable .

26:10

We're moving the wrong direction right

26:13

and racing used to be um

26:16

so much more

26:18

skill and driver than computer

26:21

driver aid . You know what I mean , so this

26:23

sounds like more that you know what I mean reducing

26:26

reducing downforce . You

26:29

know it tells me that . Okay , so

26:31

if you're going to reduce downforce , that means the engine

26:33

is going to be doing everything . So what do you do ? You just floor

26:35

it . You . You don't have to think

26:37

about cutting cutting

26:39

air , or you know

26:41

um dirty air or stuff

26:44

like that . You know the different , um

26:47

the things that make the sport great . You

26:49

know what I mean .

26:50

The right the week . The week updates

26:52

that the team's back in their home base a piece

26:54

of tape that they put on the damn

26:56

spoiler Seams and stuff .

26:58

Yeah , that one little piece

27:00

of tape makes the car just fly because

27:02

of the aerodynamics . You know what I mean Aerodynamics

27:04

.

27:06

I don't know . I think the community as a

27:08

whole , from what I've been reading and seeing

27:10

on social media is

27:18

that as a whole , whole people aren't really thrilled me I .

27:19

I mean , let's enjoy it while we can , guys . You know why ? Because you know it

27:21

today , tomorrow's never promised .

27:23

So you know I'm pretty

27:25

sure I do my . Yeah , I try to do my part for

27:27

the environment and stuff like that . But like

27:29

the things you go off to blow

27:31

steam on , you know , for recreation

27:34

and for enjoyment and spectating

27:36

, I want to see a great

27:38

product that's entertaining , and

27:42

if that means that you know we're

27:44

going to make sacrifices other places , I'm happy

27:46

to do that . But that's , that's my opinion on it . So

27:49

I think we'll be reading a lot more about this in the news here coming up , ok , and that's

27:51

, that's a good update , man . So I think we'll be reading a lot more about this in

27:53

the news here coming up .

27:54

Okay , and that's a good update . Man , I

27:56

actually , eric . Do you have anything

27:59

to add on that ? Also , I

28:01

don't know if I cut you off there , sorry

28:03

.

28:04

Well , no , I was just thinking . You know

28:06

it's kind of the same push with , you

28:10

know , consumer cars . They're

28:12

pushing the EVs and they're kind of held

28:14

as the , you know the , the

28:16

savior . But the reality is you

28:18

kind of lose a lot of the benefits because

28:20

the production cost and you

28:23

know pollution produced kind

28:25

of offsets any savings you get from

28:28

having a final product that has zero

28:30

emissions . And you

28:33

know I'm like , I'm with you , jeff

28:35

, like I don't want a battery

28:37

strapped to a small engine , like give me a big engine

28:40

yeah

28:42

.

28:42

And then , to be fair , you know I drive

28:44

an electric car and it

28:46

, you know people always say , oh

28:49

, tesla , they , they're zero

28:51

emissions . But then how

28:54

many , how much pollution did it take to

28:56

build the car ? You know what I mean . To get

28:58

those batteries to build , you know just

29:00

. You just have to be realistic about

29:02

these things . You know what I mean . So , and

29:05

it's all a marketing thing , this whole thing

29:07

, it's just the marketing thing . It's just how

29:10

you're viewed in the public eye . Apple

29:12

is doing this . You know apple

29:14

is trying to be um

29:16

the zero . What do you call this

29:18

sustainability and all this stuff ? Yeah

29:21

, net neutral , net neutral . There you

29:23

go .

29:23

There's the word net neutral yeah

29:25

, yeah yeah tell me how we're gonna be

29:27

net neutral in f1 when each team gets what

29:30

is it like ? Seven sets of tires

29:32

for a weekend ?

29:34

right , yeah , good , good luck being net

29:36

neutral . We're gonna go , we're gonna change the tires

29:38

to plastic is that what we're gonna do ?

29:41

time will tell .

29:41

Give them enough time give them enough cycle tires

29:43

right are

29:45

we going to change them to magnets so that they hover

29:48

and we don't ? There's no more tires , no more

29:50

.

29:50

That's coming , you'll see hey , there

29:52

you go , how you thinking I'll

29:54

keep everybody updated , though as uh , as

29:56

updates happen and uh , we'll see what

29:58

the community has much appreciated man , I

30:00

appreciate that those are .

30:02

Those are interesting . Um , you

30:04

know what ? We'll include some links on that

30:06

, on those on those uh changes

30:09

, so people can

30:11

uh whoever's listening can can check

30:14

those out , okay so , and then we

30:16

got a quick segment here . Um

30:18

, it's , it's a bit of a news . If

30:20

you are a

30:23

sim magic user and

30:26

sim magic when I mean sim magic user

30:28

, I mean sim magic hardware and

30:30

you're on a ps5 , um

30:33

, eric has some news for you on

30:35

a new software

30:37

update for Peripheral that

30:39

talks to SimMagic hardware

30:41

. So I'll give it to Eric real quick .

30:44

Yeah , so it's actually

30:46

an older software release

30:49

, it's a beta . So if you're on PS5 , that

30:53

means you have to be using the Sigma Cortex

30:55

converter and they have

30:57

their stable version . But they've released two

30:59

better versions . I've been running the latest

31:01

beta and the

31:04

benefit of it is you get the direct drive emulation

31:06

. But if

31:09

you roll back to the previous beta , that

31:12

direct drive emulation actually works

31:14

with uh acetylcorson , which

31:16

is interesting can

31:19

you tell us the version number ?

31:21

do you know ?

31:21

uh , yeah , version 1.1.1.1.4

31:23

okay

31:27

is the is the beta version that works . The

31:29

latest one is 1.1.5 , which

31:31

, and you know , in your mind you want to be on the latest

31:34

and greatest . But

31:36

thanks to Discord , somebody

31:38

pointed out like hey , if you

31:40

roll back to the previous version , you

31:44

get full support on ACC . Yeah

31:46

, you get full support on there without having to do anything weird

31:48

. There's a way where you can turn

31:51

down completely . You can turn down

31:53

completely I

31:59

think it's either the road detail or one of the other settings and

32:01

it temporarily kind of fixes the issue . But it makes

32:03

you drive like you're driving Mario

32:06

Kart . You lose all feeling . But

32:11

the wheel works with the latest beta version . But if you roll

32:13

back then you don't really lose . Well , depending

32:15

on the hardware you have , you will lose some functionality

32:18

that they added in the latest beta

32:20

. I think there are some peripherals like

32:22

versions of handbrakes that work better . But

32:25

if you're trying to play ACC and

32:28

you want the full force feedback

32:30

experience with

32:34

a DD being emulated , that

32:36

one does work . So that's been nice . I've

32:39

been driving more and realizing I

32:41

suck at driving more as well .

32:44

No man , it's just , it's just a , it's

32:47

just a learning curve with ACC

32:49

. You know , it's like every , every SIM

32:51

has their own um

32:53

. You know , know

32:55

, it has their own style . You know what I mean . So

32:58

acc yeah

33:00

, man , acc cars feel

33:02

a lot heavier and the braking is

33:04

different and you're racing

33:07

gt3 . I

33:10

know you have GT3 cars and GT7

33:13

, but this

33:15

game has maybe

33:17

20 cars . So the amount

33:19

of detail and focus

33:22

that the developer is pouring into

33:24

each car instead

33:26

of a game that has 500 , 600

33:29

cars , if that makes sense , if

33:56

that makes sense . A 1957 jaguar , something like you know

33:58

you just really get to know the car , which is a big difference

34:00

on the set , of course . Right , and yeah

34:02

, I mean I've always said to choose a car . When

34:06

it comes to those types of simulators

34:08

, I mean , like acc

34:10

, you wouldn't want to be

34:12

jumping around vehicle to vehicle , you

34:15

want to stick to one car

34:17

and learn the limits of

34:19

that car , but you got to make sure that you

34:21

love that car , right . So I

34:23

mean , I've mentioned this before and

34:26

that's kind of cool

34:28

that you have the option , though If you go

34:30

on GT7 , then you can

34:32

drive a plethora of vehicles you

34:34

know , of all kinds you

34:37

know , yeah , it's fun , especially in

34:39

the in the vr oh

34:41

yeah , yeah , in vr you kind of you

34:44

know you , you can't beat gt7

34:47

vr . I mean I , I I'm

34:49

jealous because why

34:52

don't they just release the game on PC ? Just

34:55

release the game on PC , make it moddable

34:57

. It will destroy everything

35:00

else on the market , I promise you .

35:03

You sent video of you playing . I

35:09

think you were racing some type of F1 or Formula

35:11

car in VR and I was like oh , I'm so

35:13

jealous .

35:14

It looked awesome . That

35:16

was amazing , uh , but we got the set of course of evil coming

35:18

out and they've already said they're focused

35:21

on vr . But there will be vr support

35:23

now . Whether it's good or not , I don't know

35:25

. I've heard they usually

35:28

don't .

35:28

They're usually not good at the beginning like

35:30

you mentioned before . Yeah , but

35:32

then yeah , but then it's usually

35:34

. You know what it is eric is

35:37

. It's just this . I'm

35:39

gonna put this as an example . Acc

35:42

came out 2016

35:44

, I think 2017 . Somebody

35:46

quote me if I'm wrong , but or

35:49

not quote me , correct me if I'm wrong

35:51

, but the

35:53

driving was good in acc , but

35:56

everything else wasn't so

35:59

. If the driving is good , then

36:01

the game has potential

36:03

to be good with

36:06

other bugs that can be fixed and corrected

36:08

I thought that's a great transition

36:10

because everybody says iRacing

36:13

is the best handling game but

36:15

not nearly the best graphics .

36:17

Right and iRacing makes it up for

36:19

it iRacing came

36:22

out in 2008, .

36:24

Jeff , it is the oldest

36:26

standing the OG

36:28

, the OG and

36:30

there's easily if I go on iRacing right

36:32

now , right now , there's 15 000 players

36:35

racing right now which

36:37

is insane for stepping , and

36:40

you even got for stepping . Yeah , you even got for

36:42

stepping racing a 24-hour nordschleife

36:44

right before his real life race

36:47

. And then , oh yeah , he wins both of

36:49

them and on the radio .

36:50

They're like on the radio .

36:52

He's . He's like yeah , yeah

36:54

, you won . You know your team won . Oh , okay

36:56

, cool Time

36:59

to catch up on some rest . But I

37:01

mean that's going to wrap it up for today . I mean

37:03

, iRacing is a big topic

37:05

and

37:08

we'll leave that for the next episode and

37:10

I really want to give the time of day

37:12

for iRacing and and go

37:14

into detail , um , on

37:17

what it is and you

37:19

know who it's for and basically

37:22

you know it's

37:24

a lot of , there's a lot of depth . The game is old

37:26

and it's been . It's had many changes

37:29

and they just recently added rain

37:31

, which completely changed

37:33

everything .

37:34

Everybody lost their mind With

37:36

rain . We got rain .

37:44

We got rain . So , yeah , we're going to transfer that

37:47

topic over to the next episode

37:49

to give it the time that

37:51

it deserves . Okay

37:55

, so I'm going to do the round table If anyone has anything else that they would

37:57

like to add to this week's episode .

38:00

Yeah , I got one . I got a confession , I guess

38:02

. Oh , I just

38:04

like to , uh , I guess , confess that I

38:06

feel like I have crossed

38:09

over the line from a

38:11

hobby to an obsession . Before

38:13

I started , uh , when I started this hobby

38:16

, I saw the people with the fourth monitor

38:18

over their triples and

38:20

I was like man , that's that , that's

38:22

too much . Well

38:24

, team and listeners , I have officially

38:27

put the fourth monitor on . I feel like I am now reached

38:29

. He gave in again , and it is

38:31

now an obsession and it's installed

38:34

.

38:34

This I can see it from it is awesome

38:36

, it's fantastic yeah

38:40

, man it's , it's useful , man it's it's

38:42

useful it really is .

38:43

I mean the , the . I'm running the lively

38:46

uh pit wall which we'll get into , I'm sure

38:48

, in some other . But anyways , that's my confession . I have

38:50

officially passed the hobby to the

38:52

obsession right

38:54

and we'll .

38:56

We'll definitely cover the uh lovely

38:58

dashboard and the lovely

39:00

pit wall as well in detail . Those

39:03

will be coming soon . It's

39:05

just that we want to . We want

39:07

to keep you all listeners up to date on

39:10

things that are happening and

39:12

couldn't you know , and in the current time

39:15

, right now . So , uh

39:17

, yeah , well , that's awesome , that's

39:19

awesome to hear . And you also transitioned

39:22

you fully transitioned over to sim magic gear

39:24

.

39:25

It's all installed and

39:27

I heard that that was

39:29

a pain because I mean everybody

39:32

uses that the d word uh done

39:34

or complete the rigs done or the rigs

39:36

complete , it ain't never done .

39:39

But it's done for right now my

39:41

, my question for you was you

39:43

got rid of all your fanatec gear and

39:46

how was ? How hard was it ? How

39:49

hard was it for you to do that ?

39:51

put it on facebook marketplace for maybe , maybe

39:54

10 days and

39:57

uh , nice , yeah

39:59

, and it was gone . Yeah , asking price . I I

40:01

think the dude that I sold to got a fair price . I

40:03

got a fair . I got fair , fair value for

40:05

what I got . Um , and we

40:08

got somebody else into the hobby , went

40:10

all the way around .

40:12

Nice , that's awesome , man . So , yeah

40:15

, well , that's gonna be it for

40:17

this week's episode . If , if , eric

40:20

, you don't have anything else to put out nothing

40:23

much , man just rest and laps all

40:25

right , so fast break late there

40:28

you go , man , and once again congratulations

40:31

to mr eric kelly good

40:33

work buddy , yeah , man good

40:35

on you , brother . So I

40:38

just want to say thank you all for

40:40

listening . We crossed the 200

40:43

download mark on this , on

40:45

this podcast , and

40:47

uh , yeah , man , we're pushing

40:49

and we're going to continue on , uh

40:52

, providing you guys the

40:54

good stuff , the news , and , who

40:56

knows , we might even reveal

40:59

ourselves in a video podcast in

41:01

the future . Who knows so

41:04

? And with that , thank you so much , and you

41:06

guys have a great start

41:08

of your week and take care .