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Matilda. Was dead. And.
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Now things are coming apart
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at the seams. The.
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Fact is she appears to have been
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holding the house of Normandy together though
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you wouldn't know that if you just
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relied on or eulogies left by the
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scribes. Church been like ordering
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While writing, these eulogies emphasize the fact
0:54
that she was a good woman. And.
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For them, that meant she was a
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quiet one who was focused on our
1:01
faith. And. By focused on
1:03
our faith, they meant a woman who
1:05
gave the church fat stacks of cash
1:07
on the regular. Now. To
1:09
be clear, I have no reason
1:12
to think that Mathilde it have
1:14
a deep faith in her religion.
1:16
However, when we read these eulogies,
1:18
were reading a curated account of
1:20
a person. The. Scribes were telling
1:22
us that Matilda was a very
1:25
good woman, and to do that,
1:27
they were focusing on what their
1:29
culture defined as a very good
1:31
noble. So we're
1:33
not gonna read about her very
1:35
real impact on the political stage
1:38
when we're reading these eulogies. We
1:40
also boat read about how she
1:42
regularly governed as Regent, nor how
1:44
much William benefited from her connections
1:46
and political clout. We won't read
1:49
about how it was her effort
1:51
and specifically her influence on William
1:53
that appears to have kept this
1:55
dysfunctional family together. Matilda.
1:58
Was likely a good medieval. Noblewoman,
2:01
But he was also a highly skilled
2:03
politician. However, We.
2:05
Have to look elsewhere in the record
2:08
to see those powerful aspects of Matilda
2:10
life. But. Once you know
2:12
where to look, it's very clear
2:14
that Matilda did a lot for
2:16
this family. And now
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she was gone. I. Have no
2:21
doubt that her absence was
2:23
felt deeply in brew won
2:25
in Winchester. But. Unfortunately, we
2:27
don't have any written accounts detailing
2:29
how the royal family was coping.
2:32
Because. Matilda and the boys were needs
2:34
and the quickest way to defeat of
2:36
night is to challenge him to a
2:39
spelling bee. And. While I give
2:41
them a lot of over this. I
2:44
genuinely wish it wasn't the case.
2:46
I want read Williams sad poetry. I
2:49
want to read his Moby Live Journal
2:51
posts. I want access to all of
2:53
the things that he would have produced
2:56
if he was part of our modern
2:58
culture of over sharing. But. That's
3:00
not how it is is, so we just
3:02
have to wonder how he and the boys
3:04
were handling this loss. Because. At
3:06
this point, we're in an informational
3:08
black hole. In. It's actually worse
3:11
than normal. Way. Worse. For
3:13
example, You. May remember that Robert
3:16
just sort of failed on the family
3:18
when Matilda died. Well. There's
3:20
an indication in the records that
3:23
another quarrel had ticked up between
3:25
Robert and his father, King William,
3:27
but there's no detail about it.
3:29
Not how it started, not why
3:31
it started, not even when it
3:34
started. And. While you might be
3:36
inclined to say, well, I mean,
3:38
these were futile Norman's so the
3:40
scribes probably didn't record those details
3:42
because a quarrel between these guys
3:44
was just another day of the
3:46
office. While. i should remind
3:48
you that the last time the
3:50
scribes reported a so called quarrel
3:53
there was in entire civil war
3:55
with in normandy and william was
3:57
nearly killed on the battlefield Norman
4:00
family quarrels are way
4:02
more dangerous than those awkward arguments you
4:04
get into with your uncle on Facebook.
4:08
Normans bicker with swords
4:10
on horseback. And
4:12
speaking of quarreling, another
4:15
fight had actually kicked up shortly
4:17
after Matilda's death. Because
4:19
it turned out that once again, there
4:21
was trouble in Maine. And
4:23
thankfully, unlike what was happening in
4:25
the Royal Family, our favorite 11th
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century gossip order by Talos decided
4:30
to give us a ton of
4:32
juicy details about this conflict. Now
4:35
unfortunately, this is also
4:37
orderic. And at the
4:40
risk of sounding like the critics that pissed him off
4:42
so much, I do need to
4:44
point out that he had some problems in
4:46
his account. Specifically, he
4:48
had some timeline issues. For
4:51
example, he cannot decide if
4:53
this conflict with Maine lasted 3 years
4:55
or 4 years. And
4:59
while that might seem minor, it's
5:01
actually a really big problem because
5:03
if the conflict lasted 4 years,
5:05
then England was ruled by William
5:08
the Lich King who was commanding
5:10
armies from beyond the grave. And
5:13
while that sounds awesome, I'm
5:15
also pretty sure it would have been recorded
5:17
somewhere. So I'm gonna assume that Orderic did
5:19
what we all tend to do while living
5:22
through stressful times and he just
5:24
kinda lost track of time. I
5:26
mean, remember when we couldn't leave our homes
5:28
for 23 years due to
5:30
the pandemic? Man, that
5:32
was a crazy time. So
5:35
yeah, perhaps Orderic's sources were a bit
5:37
like that and it just felt like
5:39
the events were lasting longer than they
5:41
actually were. And in that case, maybe
5:43
this conflict only lasted like 3 years
5:45
or less. But anyway, let's
5:47
get to the conflict. So what happened?
5:50
Well, you can point to a number of
5:52
small political moves and stuff like that, but
5:54
if you take a bigger picture view, you
5:56
see the larger problem. People
5:59
had been protecting the world. protecting William from himself
6:01
for pretty much his entire adult
6:03
life. He was surrounded
6:05
by people who had been doing
6:08
the thankless task of smoothing feathers
6:10
and taking the temperature down. And
6:13
when that didn't work, preparing armies for him.
6:16
But things had changed. Matilda was
6:18
dead. And FitzOsburn was
6:21
dead. And Odo? He
6:23
was in prison. And Robert was
6:25
probably in rebellion. And
6:27
King Philip these days openly hated
6:29
him. And the Count of
6:32
Flanders also hated him. And
6:34
Pope Gregory right now was up to
6:36
his eyeballs and papal crises. Things
6:39
had gotten very bad in the world.
6:41
And most of the people or organizations
6:43
that William could rely on were either
6:46
sick of his nonsense these days or
6:48
were dead. And a good
6:51
indicator of just how bad William's situation
6:53
had become can be found in
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the record of Christmas of 1083. On
6:59
this year, Count Foulke von Jew
7:02
hosted a Christmas party at his estate.
7:05
And in attendance were several
7:07
powerful nobles from Burgundy and
7:09
Maine. Men like Robert
7:11
the Burgundian and Geoffrey de Maen. And
7:14
while I love a good Christmas party, what
7:17
we're seeing here isn't that. This
7:20
is a gathering of nobles who
7:22
were either openly hostile to William
7:24
or who were politically aligned with
7:27
figures who were openly hostile to
7:29
William. We're also at the same
7:31
time seeing a generational turn. William
7:34
was no longer the young upstart. Nor
7:36
were his companions, you know, what was left
7:38
of them. Making matters
7:41
worse, Count Foulke von Jew was
7:43
in many ways a younger version
7:45
of William. And one
7:47
of the aging conqueror's main rivals.
7:50
So this party was not great news
7:52
for the House of Normandy. And
7:55
remember, these were medieval nobles,
7:58
which meant that their holidays were less
8:00
like the Hallmark Channel and
8:02
much more, well, medieval.
8:06
So it's very likely there wasn't much
8:08
partying at this Christmas party and it
8:11
was more of a preliminary marshalling of
8:13
forces. You know, the
8:15
preparations for a campaign. And
8:17
if William caught word of this Christmas party, either
8:20
curing what they were planning or
8:22
just worrying that they were getting
8:24
together and might plan something, the
8:27
anxiety and Rouen and the concerns
8:29
about his numerous enemies would
8:31
have been quite hot. I
8:33
mean, what exactly were they up to over there? And
8:37
that brings us to one
8:39
particular French noble. And
8:41
of course, his name was
8:43
Hubert because there were only
8:45
like six names in all of France.
8:48
And this Hubert was the Vicon
8:50
of Maine. And that meant
8:53
he had a lot of power in the
8:55
region that William was still trying to exert
8:57
control over. And critically,
8:59
Hubert held land sitting between
9:02
William and the influential city
9:04
of Le Mans in Maine. Even
9:06
worse for William, Hubert had been
9:09
one of the bastards main rivals back
9:11
in the 1060s and
9:13
early 1070s. So
9:15
he was already someone that William was
9:17
probably not too trusting of. And
9:20
then right in the middle of all
9:22
of this mess, while shady, Angevin Christmas
9:24
parties were going on, Orderic
9:26
reports that following the death
9:29
of Matilda, Vicon Hubert just
9:31
up and rebelled. And he
9:33
wasn't rebelling for freedom from
9:35
William, nor justice, nor
9:37
any sort of independence. No,
9:41
Orderic tells us that
9:43
Hubert rebelled because William
9:45
had offended him. Specifically,
9:48
he says that Hubert, quote,
9:50
gave umbrage to the king
9:52
at first on some trivial
9:55
occasions, end quote. Basically, William
9:57
did something rude and
9:59
Hubert overreacted, which checks
10:02
out. And then, rather
10:05
than calming down, we're told Hubert proceeded
10:07
to get more and more upset and
10:09
heaped on a bunch of other complaints
10:11
on top of it, which
10:13
also checks out. These
10:16
were after all 11th century feudal
10:18
nobles. And we're told
10:20
that Hubert was so mad at William
10:22
that he took his soldiers and his
10:25
resources out of his castles at Beaumont
10:27
and Fournai and plonked them down in
10:29
his castle at Saint-Dusanne. So
10:32
now it wasn't just a castle, it
10:34
was a base camp for his campaign. And
10:37
this wasn't just Hubert and some soldiers. The
10:40
guy also brought his wife and all his
10:42
other followers with him to that castle. And
10:44
probably for good reason. Because here's
10:47
orderic. Quote, the
10:49
fortress in which he took refuge stands
10:51
on a high rock above the river
10:54
Erve, on the borders of Maine and
10:56
Anjou. So
10:59
strategically and tactically, Saint-Dusanne
11:02
was a beast. And
11:04
once Hubert flew his flag of rebellion,
11:07
other people in Maine began to take up
11:09
his cause. Why? Well,
11:12
probably because they weren't all that
11:14
thrilled with Norman domination. But
11:17
orderic's take on the cause is too good
11:19
to skip. So here's what he has to
11:21
say about the people of Maine. Quote, a
11:24
people of naturally unsettled temper and
11:26
ever ready to disturb the peace
11:28
of others and disquiet
11:30
themselves by their love of change
11:33
flew in arms against the king
11:35
and occasions great expenditure and damage
11:38
on their own state as
11:40
well as many others. Which
11:43
I think you'll agree has a very
11:45
they hate us for our freedoms vibe.
11:48
But it's quite clear that as far
11:50
as orderic was concerned, this rebellion had
11:53
nothing to do with William or the
11:55
Normans and the people of Maine were
11:57
just unstable and chaotic. And
11:59
so... Once Hubert and his
12:01
army were entrenched in their castle, you know,
12:04
hating stability, they decided
12:06
to launch attacks upon the Normans. And
12:09
they didn't have to go to the border of Normandy to
12:11
do it. Norman's soldiers were
12:13
stationed throughout Maine as an
12:15
occupying force, or as
12:17
order it phrases it, "'Guarding
12:19
the country of Maine.'" Which was
12:22
very thoughtful of them. And
12:24
as Hubert and his men were attacking their
12:27
guards, it became quickly
12:30
apparent that they were very, very good
12:32
at this. We're told
12:34
that they made regular incursions into
12:36
Norman controlled territory, and the boldness
12:38
of their tactics really started
12:41
to freak out the Norman garrisons. And
12:43
before long, they were begging the king
12:45
to come to their aid. Now,
12:49
as you no doubt have gathered, I
12:51
really don't buy the idea that this
12:53
was just a group of chaotic, apolitical
12:55
people launching a blind rebellion due to
12:57
their love of change. I
12:59
don't even believe that the rebellion was inspired
13:01
by a trivial insult. I
13:04
mean, we're not even told what
13:06
the supposed insult was. And I
13:09
think that's because it didn't really matter. I
13:12
suspect that Hubert's claim of hurt
13:14
feelings over an insult was just
13:17
pretext. I think Hubert
13:19
was looking to kick off a broader
13:21
war with William because that was the
13:23
plan all along. Remember
13:25
Count Folk's Christmas celebration and how
13:29
there were nobles from Maine, Burgundy,
13:31
and elsewhere in attendance? Well,
13:33
funny story. When Hubert
13:36
rebelled, guess who started
13:38
showing up to his castle at Saint-Sousanne?
13:41
Quote, Knights from Aquitaine,
13:44
Burgundy, and other provinces of
13:46
France. End quote. What
13:49
an odd coincidence! And
13:51
the speed at which this whole
13:53
thing goes off the rails is
13:55
breathtaking. Matilda died in
13:58
early November of 1083. Folks
14:01
Christmas celebration was about two
14:03
months later and by early
14:05
January of 1084 we're
14:07
talking like weeks after that Christmas
14:10
party we have evidence in
14:12
the charters that suggests that William's
14:14
army was on the move likely
14:17
to defend against this rebellion and
14:20
this was a big army. Orderic
14:22
tells us that William mustered his
14:24
troops for Normandy and then added
14:26
to them any people from Maine
14:28
who remained loyal to him. On
14:31
top of that when we look at
14:33
the charters from this period which were likely
14:35
drawn up during the army's advance we
14:38
see the presence of major
14:40
military figures including William's half-brother
14:42
Robert of Mortain as well
14:45
as his sons William Rufus
14:48
and Robert Kurtos and
14:50
you did hear that right. It
14:53
appears that the king's firstborn son
14:55
had rejoined court at least for
14:57
a bit and that makes sense
14:59
when you think about it. After all
15:01
Robert did want to inherit one day
15:03
and if his dad lost some territory
15:06
in one of these squabbles that
15:08
wouldn't do Robert any good but
15:10
ultimately when we look at these records we
15:12
get the impression that this conflict broke out
15:14
very quickly and William responded
15:17
soon thereafter. I
15:19
mean even if the charters are a coincidence
15:21
and the fighting didn't start until the
15:23
campaigning season this thing
15:26
still happened pretty fast and
15:28
so at least by spring and
15:31
probably by January of 1084 William
15:34
was in the field ready to
15:36
deal with Hubert so the
15:38
fight was on. Now
15:40
under normal circumstances when
15:42
facing off with an enemy boarded up
15:45
inside a castle and launching attacks from
15:47
within you would expect
15:49
William to surround Saint-Sousanne with siege
15:51
castles and keep Robert's
15:54
forces contained inside. Once
15:56
the castle was surrounded then we'd expect him
15:58
to either bring the structure down or
16:01
just starve Hubert out. We
16:03
see William do this many times in the
16:05
past, and we've even seen him do this
16:08
when his enemy was using essentially nature as
16:10
his castle, as was the case
16:12
with Harroward and the Rebels of Ely. And
16:14
because something like that takes a long time,
16:17
after the castle was surrounded, you'd expect
16:19
him to go and ravage any nearby communities
16:21
that were linked to that enemy. It's
16:24
a one-two punch that worked very well
16:26
for William, and there
16:28
were in fact nearby communities that
16:30
fit the bill, like
16:32
Sabla and Crone. But
16:35
William didn't do any of that. Instead,
16:38
he just established an earthwork encampment to
16:41
the north of St. Suzanne, which
16:43
was called Lacombe de Bougie. I'm
16:46
not kidding by the way, and from now
16:48
on, that's what I'm calling glamping. But
16:50
once established at Lacombe de Bougie,
16:52
which literally translates to the Bougie
16:55
Camp, William made no
16:57
efforts to establish further encampments or
16:59
siege castles to the south of
17:02
St. Suzanne, which is what he
17:04
would have needed if he wanted to
17:06
cut Hubert off. He didn't
17:08
even attack Sabla or Crone. Instead,
17:12
the Norman force at the Bougie Camp
17:14
just stayed to the north of Hubert
17:16
and tried to hamper his efforts to
17:18
penetrate further into Norman controlled territory. Orderic
17:22
even tells us specifically that William
17:24
had no intent to use his
17:26
Bougie Camp to directly assault St.
17:29
Suzanne, which obviously raises
17:31
the question of why. Well,
17:35
Orderic doesn't tell us, but
17:37
it seems quite likely that William realized
17:39
that this conflict was resting on a
17:41
knife's edge, and that Count
17:43
Folk and his friends would love an
17:45
excuse to get involved. Historian
17:48
David Bates argues that William, by
17:50
taking a defensive posture here rather than
17:53
going on an all out offensive, and
17:55
also by not moving south and thus
17:57
closer to Folk and his friends, may
18:00
have been trying to keep this
18:02
fight strictly between him and Hubert.
18:05
Basically, William was refusing to
18:07
take the bait. And as
18:09
for why he wasn't directly assaulting Hubert's
18:11
castle, well, Ordering tells us
18:14
that it was pretty much impregnable thanks
18:16
to its position on the rocks, and
18:18
also because it was surrounded by a
18:20
dense thicket of vineyards. And
18:23
strategically, not attacking is probably
18:25
the right call here. I mean, if
18:27
his entire force was torn to shreds,
18:29
that probably would please folk to no
18:31
end. So it looks like
18:34
William decided to opt for a strategy of
18:36
containment. But even though he was
18:38
just keeping this conflict between him and Hubert,
18:41
the fact was, this was
18:43
a very expensive conflict. Keeping
18:46
an army of that size in the
18:48
field meant that there were far fewer
18:50
hands tending the fields back home. Furthermore,
18:54
all those soldiers needed to be fed
18:56
and cared for. And then there
18:58
was also the matter of payment. Soldiers,
19:00
especially higher ranked ones, would be
19:02
expecting some sort of reward at
19:04
the end of this. Also,
19:07
as we know all too well by now, keeping
19:10
this many knights altogether was certain
19:12
to create all manner of problems
19:15
if you didn't keep them entertained.
19:18
I mean, even when knights were entertained,
19:20
they still managed to do things like
19:22
kick off wars by peeing on each
19:24
other. So at the very least,
19:27
you'd probably want to set up rudimentary
19:29
tournaments or other sorts of war games
19:31
to keep the knights happy and distracted.
19:33
And that also would cost money. Basically,
19:37
William was bleeding cash here.
19:41
But no worries, he always had
19:43
his ATM on hand. And
19:45
right on cue, the Chronicle tells us that in
19:48
1084, as he was waging this war, William
19:53
imposed, quote, a great and
19:55
heavy tax, end quote. John
19:57
of Worcester tells us that William demanded, quote, quote,
20:00
six shillings from every hide of
20:02
land throughout England, end quote. He
20:05
was hitting the English with a big blanket
20:07
tax. Now it should
20:09
be noted that we have no indication that William
20:12
came to England in 1084. So
20:15
chances are this tax was imposed upon
20:17
the English by a messenger rather than
20:19
directly by the king. So
20:22
he didn't leave the battlefield to personally issue an
20:24
adjustment to your 1040EZ. But
20:27
regardless of whether or not the king
20:29
did it personally, the English suddenly found
20:31
themselves having to tighten their belts once
20:33
again to fund one
20:35
of William's endless problems on the
20:37
continent. And speaking of
20:39
problems on the continent, down
20:41
in Rome, Pope Gregory was still having
20:44
problems of his own. And I'm going
20:46
to try and keep this brief. So
20:49
King Henry of Germany was still pissed
20:51
at Greg and he had all of
20:53
that money from the Byzantine emperor for
20:55
the express purpose of kicking the bejesus
20:57
out of the Pope, as well as
21:00
his Norman friend, Robert Giscard. And
21:02
so lately, Henry had been trying to bring
21:04
his army over the mountains to Rome, you
21:07
know, so he could get the job done. Now
21:09
unfortunately for Henry, between him
21:12
and Rome, like Countess Matilda
21:14
of Tuscany. And Countess
21:16
Matilda was an incredible military
21:19
medieval leader and also an
21:21
ally of Pope Gregory. There's
21:23
actually way too much to get into with her,
21:25
but there are two things of note regarding Matilda
21:27
of Tuscany that you should know. One,
21:30
she was obviously solid marriage material
21:33
and Robert Curtose had noticed this.
21:36
Stick a pin in that one. And
21:39
second, she and her
21:41
armies had been almost single-handedly keeping
21:43
Henry out of Rome. So
21:45
eventually, Henry was forced to try a
21:47
different route, a non-Matilda
21:50
of Tuscany route. And
21:52
only then was he finally able to reach
21:54
the city. Rome surrendered
21:56
and the Pope locked himself inside the
21:59
mausoleum of Hadrian. Syrian. And.
22:01
It was from here the Gregory and
22:03
Henry began to argue over terms. Henry.
22:06
One of the Pope, the crown I'm emperor. And.
22:09
The pope one and henry to drop
22:11
dead. Henry. Spiced up the
22:13
offer and said that he would
22:15
betray his ally anti Pope Clement,
22:17
and hand them over to Gregory.
22:19
If only the Pope would just
22:22
go around him. emperor. But.
22:24
The Pope would still pretty happy with
22:26
his initial offer have dropped dead. Mother
22:29
was some more wrangling the went on here, but
22:31
that's basically the gist of it. And
22:34
while all that was going on, a
22:36
Council of Bishops was convened at the
22:38
Pope's requests. And guess what happened? Yet.
22:42
Be excommunicated. Henry again.
22:45
And apparently this was the
22:47
final goddamn straw for Henry.
22:49
So he entered Rome again
22:51
and in March of Ten
22:53
Eighty Four, he established anti
22:55
Pope Clement the Third as
22:57
new Pope. Clement the Third.
22:59
And then Clement now promoted
23:02
immediately crowned Henry as Emperor.
23:04
And while all of this was going
23:06
on, Gregory was reaching out to his
23:08
allies for help. And shortly
23:10
after, Clement and Henry gave
23:13
each other promotions that old
23:15
Normand adventurer Robert Discard appeared
23:17
along with his merry band
23:20
of bastards. And. There were
23:22
a lot of them because new
23:24
Emperor Henry was forced to run
23:26
from the city. No. Unfortunately, the
23:28
people of Rome had enough of
23:31
Gregory's chaos by this point. And
23:33
inviting a Cd Norman adventurer and
23:35
is Cd Norman army into the
23:37
cities with the last nail in
23:40
the coffin of Gregory's public opinion.
23:42
Numbers. So. Realizing he
23:44
very well might find himself torn
23:46
apart by an angry mob, Gregory
23:49
also fled the city. He.
23:51
First took refuge in Monte Cassino,
23:53
and then later at Salerno. And
23:56
the reason why I'm still calling
23:58
Gregory Gregory and not Hilda. And
24:00
is because he never gave up his
24:02
people name. Nor. Title. Even
24:05
when he was in exile, you still
24:07
insisted he was Pope Gregory the seventh.
24:10
And that meant there were still two
24:12
men who were claiming to be the
24:14
real Pope. And I've got news for
24:16
you. Even. After Gregory dies,
24:19
there will still be two men
24:21
claiming to be the real pope
24:23
because his faction flat refuse to
24:26
accept Clement and so they elected
24:28
their own pope instead. And.
24:30
When that one died, be
24:32
selected another, and then when
24:34
that one died, be selected
24:36
yet another. This.
24:38
Faction never accepted new Pope
24:41
Clement, even after he was
24:43
outliving a surprising number of
24:45
other pope's. And. Actually,
24:47
even after Pope Clement the
24:50
third, died, he still wouldn't
24:52
be accepted. About. A
24:54
century later when Paolo Scolari was elected
24:56
Pope and he said he wanted to
24:59
be known as Pope Clement. He.
25:01
Became the second Pope
25:03
Clement, the third. Because.
25:06
As far as the church was concerned
25:08
that first Pope Clement a third wasn't
25:10
a real pope, He was
25:12
at best anti Pope Clement,
25:15
or really just winners. So.
25:18
That's what's going on in Rome. I
25:20
guess they just really loved chaos and
25:22
change. Me: While back to
25:24
the bougie camp, William was no
25:27
longer commanding the army. Instead.
25:30
Allen Rufus was in charge. Now,
25:33
over the last few years,
25:35
Rufus had become fantastic. The
25:37
wealthy. In fact, when the
25:39
Doomsday Book is recorded about a year from
25:41
now, we'll see that he is one of
25:43
the richest and most powerful men in England.
25:46
Lagging. Behind only the King's half
25:48
brother Robert have more time and
25:51
the King's himself and didn't Williams
25:53
court that kind of well with
25:55
the result of being very high
25:57
in the king's personalise steam. So.
26:00
We to be sure that William wasn't just
26:02
leaving some rando in charge of the siege.
26:04
He was leaving this campaign in the
26:07
hands of one of his most trusted
26:09
commanders. But. Setting aside the
26:11
interpersonal element here, Allen was also
26:13
a wise choice on his own
26:16
merits. The. Fact was that
26:18
you for its possessions, were quite
26:20
close to Brittany. Which. Meant
26:22
that Allen, as a proton noble,
26:24
had a direct stake in this.
26:27
And. Beyond that, Allen, by being
26:30
not, William was probably able
26:32
to handle regional matters and
26:34
diplomatic efforts involving figures outside
26:36
of Normandy. Far better than
26:39
the Bastard Good. So. Leaving
26:41
him in charge makes a lot of sense,
26:43
But as for why he was in charge?
26:45
Well, it turns out. The king
26:47
was needed elsewhere. Now. Order
26:50
It doesn't tell us why the king
26:52
was needed. But. He does tell
26:54
us that it was urgent. And.
26:57
When we look at other records, I
26:59
don't think he was wrong. This.
27:01
Was urgent. Do.
27:03
You remember Swain s reason. You.
27:06
Know the King of Denmark and extended family
27:08
member of the Godwin since you've launched if
27:10
you failed invasions. Or
27:14
he died back in Ten Seventy
27:16
Six and his first born son,
27:18
Herald, took the throne. But then
27:20
Herald died four years later without
27:22
any children. And so the throne
27:24
went to sweep second born son.
27:26
Knute. Who. Became King
27:28
Canute the fourth of Denmark in
27:30
ten eighty. And. Along with the
27:33
kingdom, to also inherited his dad's
27:35
ambitions to become King of England.
27:38
And. Chances are word of to Nudes
27:40
ambitions had been circulating for several
27:42
years by now. But.
27:45
A goal without a plan is
27:47
just a wish. So. No
27:49
problem there. Well. Actually,
27:53
Something. Of a big problem. Because.
27:55
Knute was actually a planner. and
27:58
he was making plans to make good
28:00
on his wish. The thing
28:02
is that Canute's dad, Swain, had relied
28:04
far too much on gaining local support
28:07
for his dream invasion. That's
28:09
why his invasion forces were actually kind of small.
28:12
First he tried to invade with a fleet of 300 ships,
28:15
and then on the second attempt it was just
28:17
200 ships. And while
28:19
they might have been able to pull that off with local
28:21
support, they squandered it
28:23
and actually betrayed their Northumbrian
28:25
allies. And betrayals like
28:27
that have knock-on effects. And
28:29
as such, there was just no way
28:31
that Canute, as his father's son, was
28:34
going to be able to gather much
28:36
local support for his planned invasion. And
28:39
that's assuming that he'd even be able to
28:41
find someone living up there, which he probably
28:43
wouldn't. So yeah, there's no way
28:45
he'd be able to rely on English support. He'd
28:48
have to find others who were interested in joining
28:50
his venture. Others
28:52
who really wanted to stick it to
28:54
William. And Count Robert
28:56
of Flanders was perfect for this.
29:00
This guy absolutely f***ing hated
29:02
William. And now that
29:04
his sister, Matilda, was dead, there
29:06
was very little that was holding him back
29:08
anymore. And he had ships.
29:12
And so, Canute IV was
29:14
hard at work in Denmark, assembling
29:16
a fleet of over 1,000 ships. And
29:21
over in Flanders, Count Robert
29:23
was hard at work, gathering his own
29:25
fleet of 600 ships. It
29:29
was time for a little chaos and change. All
29:33
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