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Harden-Simmons Trade Watch: Day 427, Plus More Deadline Buzz With Kevin O’Connor and Jackie MacMullan

Harden-Simmons Trade Watch: Day 427, Plus More Deadline Buzz With Kevin O’Connor and Jackie MacMullan

Released Monday, 7th February 2022
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Harden-Simmons Trade Watch: Day 427, Plus More Deadline Buzz With Kevin O’Connor and Jackie MacMullan

Harden-Simmons Trade Watch: Day 427, Plus More Deadline Buzz With Kevin O’Connor and Jackie MacMullan

Harden-Simmons Trade Watch: Day 427, Plus More Deadline Buzz With Kevin O’Connor and Jackie MacMullan

Harden-Simmons Trade Watch: Day 427, Plus More Deadline Buzz With Kevin O’Connor and Jackie MacMullan

Monday, 7th February 2022
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check it out ah us

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about the by the indoor sports book on tuesday

2:16

because is gonna pop gonna all

2:18

of our football regulars were doing it on tuesday

2:21

that were doing the big superbike as

2:23

the other props everything it's all happening

2:25

on tuesday because thursday's

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going to be the trade

2:30

deadline so the

2:32

idea that died on thursday tuesday

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will be the football and on that tuesday pod

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stuff same game parlay everything

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everything you'd

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blue actually with

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that but

2:45

if you go

2:47

jackie mic bolland kevin

2:49

o'connor

2:50

and

3:10

i

3:17

will have this is for thirty seconds

3:20

, or seven hundred

3:23

hundred was the city of trades as on his thursday

3:25

we had a trace today there's a whole

3:28

weekend of pardon to

3:30

any

3:31

casey and i have done a green room on friday

3:34

to sat there and ideas it seems

3:36

like

3:37

the have stagnated at least a little bit i

3:39

don't believe it i think this is weird out

3:41

at look at mouse game with that

3:44

with silly in brooklyn tried to get to where they want

3:46

to go in the day or what have you heard jackie what are

3:48

you here and foot whispers a here in their knees

3:50

coast well you know we all thought

3:52

in the off season then all senate shifted

3:55

i feel like in the

3:56

eight hours

3:58

ramping up again

3:59

don't really know why that is

4:02

maybe simmons

4:04

is like yeah i'll go there i don't know

4:07

you know but something you know ben simmons

4:10

everyone's like will in a train but he

4:12

can he is still hasn't played

4:14

is losing all the money and it's

4:17

the way it would face the three of us of

4:19

would i so

4:23

but you know nasty said a few minutes

4:25

ago i think

4:26

no

4:27

james harden you know he wants to be here

4:29

he wants to grow with as i'm not sure i believe

4:32

that but i

4:34

love save their she's a wonderful today i'm

4:37

not is about in is believe it i think this

4:39

is last season

4:41

you know it it's probably goes

4:43

it is right right yes yeah

4:45

can see the

4:48

them and thing actually weirdly

4:50

well as you like simmons is somehow

4:52

gain value over the last

4:55

couple weeks by dot playing

4:57

and by us getting further and further away

4:59

from his disastrous at rana plaza

5:01

we're like brett bradley beal who

5:03

talk by the second that

5:06

a realistic trade

5:08

the been realistic

5:09

this or strategy of i

5:12

, like any the trades are being offered

5:14

which is way the lead changes

5:16

situations

5:18

right now i'm gonna be waiting here when

5:20

things change that it actually works or

5:22

am i crazy i mean who hasn't

5:24

worked yeah until the deal athens but i've been saying

5:26

for months he's playing this right why would you settle

5:29

when you have a twenty five year old two time all

5:31

and the all player and simmons i mean

5:33

knock him for from some of

5:35

his flaws that he has suits with the wrong hands

5:37

and everything else but by he's a really

5:39

good basketball players years

5:42

old under contract why would

5:44

you trade him for scraps when you

5:46

can at least wait and play this

5:48

out and see if by thursday james

5:50

harden walks into the nets front offices my

5:52

yeah i want our are probably leaving this off

5:54

season that's that to me as like

5:56

what daryl morey has been waiting for

5:59

is a player that's what

5:59

the waiting for and what about was lowered

6:02

our heart in erbil or somebody else

6:04

arm he was hoping that come

6:06

up and

6:07

i'm he will

6:08

i think or jackie said with steve nash

6:10

auto believe what , said

6:13

i'm i believe like this

6:15

is like right out of stays where this stays where

6:18

negotiating with anything that's going to be dropping

6:20

from psalms i mean by doc rivers

6:22

brought up how you know sounds

6:24

selfish odds are not quite as the base

6:26

there so i can't believe dot actually

6:28

said that but like i mean that also

6:31

as part of it to items part of the problems

6:33

with those who they are we don't care about you know that

6:35

stuff that's out there just like steve nash gonna

6:38

do what he's doing and what's what's going to be interesting

6:40

and what what is like the big story that drops

6:42

tuesday

6:43

the world your shop the

6:46

discuss the future bad that's the new story

6:48

i'm looking for so here's what i heard

6:51

this is from the same source

6:53

that has given me some

6:55

the belief that

6:58

the to it but curry

6:59

the deal and don't

7:02

care but , had for them

7:05

brooklyn is looking at this year

7:08

because they have duran they have assume

7:10

is can be healthy pretty soon and the open

7:12

and they want a chance

7:14

and

7:15

they betrayed that makes sense for us is simmons

7:17

inquiry for hard at this is what i heard

7:21

make sense for a lot of reasons though

7:24

he i watch filleted our i watch their whole

7:26

game i like the team they have

7:28

enough

7:29

if i'm adding some

7:31

adding sense

7:32

that would i built over the last you

7:34

know last couple months or maxi

7:37

curry ah mbd

7:39

a hair's has been fine but what they

7:41

really need is like i think bradley

7:43

beal jackie makes so much more sense

7:45

from them because he just gets the court matt smith

7:48

minutes and some and

7:50

they keep everything else that they have so

7:52

about they're making it bradley be

7:55

for simmons and packs that's the

7:57

during

7:58

going by what will you think

7:59

i'm just astonished

8:02

that james harden i

8:04

just the darryl and james harden thing

8:06

i lived

8:07

they're did a cover piece for yes be at the pn

8:10

the bags

8:11

there and here the whole thing

8:13

but that was three four years

8:15

ago if you you just mentioned

8:18

three names i put dame

8:20

bradley beal to a james

8:22

harden a distant third

8:24

there's to build my future look

8:27

at

8:27

what we're hearing about dame is that his

8:30

stomach pretty apt up ran

8:33

i don't know if we see him the share and i

8:35

haven't seen anybody come out of chris

8:38

the other dame stuff right so yeah took

8:40

her st comes out and says teams that

8:42

play in this year

8:44

i'm an assume we might seem again but then

8:47

the street is that you know

8:48

the abdomen served as in ,

8:50

bad any might a comeback i

8:52

understood

8:53

i guess if i'm carol mori

8:55

or the person that has been some

8:57

and i'm trading him away i'm

8:59

not looking at just this year and i get

9:01

i i i get the logic because so

9:04

well as play that we all knew

9:06

he could do it was just a question we ever

9:08

the able still stay healthy long enough to do

9:10

it and now he so healthy

9:12

that they had to sit him against the memphis

9:15

grizzlies what he

9:17

played too many caves in a row healthy which

9:19

you don't to think about that for a minutes

9:21

so the window

9:23

been this year always try to win right

9:25

away and edu and i learned that from

9:27

watching that that wonderful collection

9:29

of so

9:30

that we're gonna win multiple championships everyone's

9:33

like will give them time to sell him no no no no

9:35

winner we now because the

9:37

the world could collapse a pandemic cook it happens

9:39

and car european might not his

9:41

game it didn't happen

9:44

so i'm all about winning now but

9:46

here's the but

9:48

if on the sixers i want something

9:50

that's gonna help me next year and the

9:52

year after to natural started

9:55

at fifty million a year that

9:57

next season with more as look at the way james

9:59

james

9:59

the body of

10:01

set on the body i'm an

10:03

i'm not trying to body shaming when but she's

10:05

his body is different he he plays

10:07

differently he's not getting get a minor belly

10:10

jackie hear what are your belly

10:13

okay but i never saw that on yeah oh man thank

10:15

you

10:15

so i just

10:19

man i just when i would take badly

10:21

i would take dame willard even

10:23

with the bad them again i'd take my chances

10:26

for next year to have this is what

10:28

is it hard enough was gone through all his numbers

10:30

today at then a lot of prep for this purpose as

10:33

hearted that nine hundred and twenty

10:35

one games hundred thirty seven

10:37

playoff games thirty six

10:39

k minutes combined which fire

10:42

the standards as i got that's nothing more brought

10:44

one runs over sixty but by normal star

10:47

standards this is yours

10:49

started to come off the least little bit right of

10:52

think that totally their of the

10:53

that's already there any the

10:56

sixteen to twenty one he was thirty

10:58

one nine heard this is

11:00

for five years and forty

11:02

four said shooting all as of this year he's

11:05

shooting forty one percent the freezer down

11:07

that's the thirty three

11:08

peter attempt down the eight hi

11:11

this is somebody that if he does that the

11:13

bar defensively

11:15

the liability and you

11:17

know he's able to see

11:20

the fact that he's so talented

11:23

pick your spots and still get his dad's

11:25

but you know it's been a pretty unhappy

11:27

team to watch i just when i

11:29

look at the basketball reference page and the points

11:31

per game and free throw attempts and stuff like

11:33

that is going down and the guys who the mid thirties

11:36

can't say thirties just i just get nervous especially

11:39

for somebody who's gonna expect a giant

11:41

extension the summer of he goes to philly

11:43

and i dare of

11:45

really confident that ah he

11:47

believes in this guy as human being

11:49

and as

11:52

work ethic peace like you you have to

11:54

be all and because it's kind of thing they get back

11:57

what i mean i think i think three years

11:59

that contracts and hard it is thirty five

12:02

thirty six years old i would have legitimate

12:04

concern about at that point what

12:07

does he look like or what is a james harden

12:09

at that point where maybe he's already won a championship

12:11

that's the point like if the you eat the first

12:13

year in the second year in the third year

12:16

with him where you have to l a bead still

12:18

you hope healthy and the prime of his career

12:21

where this team is already really really really

12:23

good with what they have around and bead

12:25

adding it harder to that regardless

12:27

of his physical condition regardless

12:30

of the factors numbers are down the

12:32

season on i mean i'm nervous

12:34

about it down the line but it

12:37

makes the sixers better automatically makes them

12:39

better if the a price on integrating i

12:43

, it like it's different with cap would have set cari

12:45

the treaty so important for their off and summer

12:47

and i be a little bit surprised of silly ended up giving

12:49

up seth curry but i'm like any

12:51

bill i have heard i have heard brooklyn

12:54

wants shooting at the wing position i mean that's

12:56

out there a lot right now they're looking

12:58

for shooting shooting that mean joe

13:00

harris has and come back and they node something

13:02

that hasn't been fully announced yet i'm

13:04

considering the issues he said with his rebeck

13:06

rehab but ultimately here

13:09

for philadelphia ultimately here hard and is the clear

13:11

the clear number one of the targets

13:13

that are even remotely realistic right

13:15

now lizard injured right now below

13:18

like total cel of what he's been the last

13:20

two seasons i mean i really loved bradley

13:22

beal your i don't want bradley beal

13:24

to his i mean i target heart of the fence

13:27

it's the piss poor for beal to is

13:29

not good on that end and baby is better playing

13:31

with jolla be by okay

13:33

be offensive juggernaut

13:35

would we could be with a b i target me excited

13:38

yeah but i think you put feel somewhere

13:40

else with everything that's gone i'm in

13:42

a started off so fast i the gates and gates

13:44

all it's all like what it's always been

13:47

to put him in a new environment with a guy like him

13:49

be that's be that's be like you the

13:52

man i just want to win like this is just this

13:54

is my year just to my men helped me when

13:56

i just i've seen it a thousand

13:58

times player

13:59

the you think are like the what the heck and

14:02

then they get

14:03

new coach a new gm new players the

14:06

rejuvenate on almost done

14:08

yeah now you have shown he

14:11

can or of yeah yeah

14:12

today china in my

14:14

head thinking which guy made more sense right

14:17

especially crunch time where they had

14:19

parade bag sad there the

14:21

in crowd

14:22

the do not just

14:25

there by india

14:26

the airplane

14:28

so you think okay if

14:30

let's take feel i ,

14:33

feel goes in and yang spot but he's

14:35

playing really well like he hit here the dagger

14:38

three days should forty percent from three cats

14:40

and size while

14:42

he gets the max spots maxis

14:44

them

14:45

you know he's been great you know of

14:47

so he's easy

14:49

these bad pardon

14:51

curry has been the deal yes has been

14:54

the my dollars and stuff but

14:57

i i gotta say if i was a sixers fan

14:59

i'd be taught tormented

15:01

by the this is that your i

15:03

can see it right it's so seductive actually

15:06

moves ah james harden and

15:09

be done that's ten guys

15:12

i don't know if know if started and jackie

15:14

what do we hard it

15:16

is unhappy within a year and now they're say

15:18

no

15:19

the but will come on

15:21

we this hobby i spoke stage

15:23

but you know and i'll say i'm going to stick up

15:25

for hard now joke and she was just

15:27

to confuse our listeners so

15:31

the great thing about harden when this all happened

15:33

last year he went that i did

15:35

you an ira like of i don't know as is

15:37

going to work for he was the adult in the

15:39

room he just yes everybody

15:41

said it all the coaches the players i was on the

15:43

road with them for when

15:46

all the wheels fell off to carry got hurt and everything

15:48

but everybody was tell me the same thing you

15:50

know james harden one holding

15:53

people accountable he's the one that pony

15:55

the decides he doesn't care about scoring

15:58

nevertheless year he's women

16:00

so i give james

16:02

pardon props for that and then now

16:04

this year he comes in you know

16:06

durant's been hurt that's nobody's fault that app and

16:09

it carries get this weird situation where you thou

16:12

completely insane the out and so

16:14

it's all falling on james harden again and that wasn't

16:16

the deal you know that wasn't

16:18

the deal because james woods that stupid

16:21

he knows getting older he knows the miles or revving

16:23

up and he also knows of zone reputation

16:25

which is by the time you get to the players he's

16:28

yeah

16:28

right

16:29

the happen in brooklyn to the oven to have these two

16:32

other guys will guess what he didn't have that

16:34

so i'm not sure if i don't

16:36

think he's like i hate this place like

16:39

that at all i just think he's like men at

16:41

this just wasn't what most to be

16:43

right yeah and

16:46

we're using the leverage of the moment to

16:48

for it's like if this is just i

16:50

was doing now beats by in

16:52

the best and is the healthiest that have any start

16:55

either team and

16:58

fido am sure that the strain hand

17:00

and the strain hamstring have to just be felon

17:03

am i mean you really have to advocate for starting

17:05

to have is that strain have an

17:07

stuff up and coming bill has

17:09

his little

17:10

in out through that has him it would divide it's

17:12

a it's like a like a ligaments sprain

17:14

in his wrist there and such as the injuries

17:17

either out it's the defensive effort by those

17:19

guys to assist like horrific and

17:21

he wants harden of for the nets

17:23

and it slide member member when everybody

17:25

criticised part of being were the worst offenders

17:27

and all the n b a that's what it's been like

17:29

this last month when for a while

17:32

he's putting in effort like jackie said like one hundred

17:34

percent right i wells on and that's i was

17:36

surprised how many people were saying

17:38

yeah harden is canada leader he's our he's

17:40

our voice he's a guy sets the tone

17:42

in practice and keeps the young players and line

17:45

for them if they all positive stuff

17:48

that you get from people who don't need

17:50

to give it to you and i

17:52

i think with hard and he's in a place

17:54

now assuming he does go and

17:56

at some point of soccer minutes and express is very

17:58

wants out either the the point like jackie

18:01

said i mean carries when half the games

18:03

recovered or have a sprained mcl and we don't

18:05

know like when he'll actually it

18:07

is naturally concern of he can reenter

18:10

of your heart and your be

18:13

and you're seeing that theme was of cari there

18:15

and i ever if he stays and everything else

18:17

maybe to jump ship he saudis and

18:20

why not do it again i remember

18:22

that can not over play

18:25

how import more years in

18:27

all of this and tad brown

18:29

i don't have you know a sad brown now

18:32

to that matters to james harden

18:34

those guys the tracks

18:36

for him and he eats you talk

18:38

to daryl morey about james harden you it you

18:40

know if you're on the phone but you're wondering

18:43

if there

18:43

years in his eyes like you

18:45

start about kevin garnett he get he gets choked

18:47

up every time it dot and that's how

18:49

much

18:51

feals for james [unk] thou

18:54

how important that is to jail in

18:57

i figured i'd believed in him my

19:00

, well as ticket about chris paul

19:03

you know

19:04

it's one of the most bizarre trades in the history the

19:06

way to as brick trade were chris paul

19:08

seemed like it was caught

19:10

over for him not even as and i'm being the

19:13

star as like an impact guy that his body

19:15

just couldn't hold up history the small

19:18

that better his

19:20

mood a different phase and he was a

19:22

bad salary

19:24

then he went play there's been

19:26

a part of stories about their see changed

19:28

everything about what he was doing

19:31

and now have you watched this year he looks as good

19:33

as he looks in two thousand two thousand and

19:35

it is all based

19:37

the anything the other day spending a milli bought

19:39

a he's fine what lebron did and it was

19:41

all stuff it's all stuff he's

19:43

been talking about really since

19:45

before they made they trade because there were

19:47

stories about that he was doing this before they even

19:49

did the west portrait right right portrait wonder with

19:51

hard and for him to have another

19:54

act where he's another top a

19:56

top notch guy i think it has to be something

19:58

like that

19:59

the

19:59

the old school nineteen eighties

20:02

nineteen

20:03

been a beer were because i

20:05

think it's gonna the air

20:07

yeah but

20:09

these stories the summer

20:11

it's like james harden

20:13

clients' best , of

20:15

his life bought it brought a crowd

20:18

saber first crowd first

20:20

first bed and the and it's like that can assess

20:22

the oh my god those got him and and beat

20:25

but i don't know what drives that guy can

20:27

figure it out i don't think any

20:29

you're dot right

20:30

why the way don't forget with joel and beat

20:33

did to become who he is now same

20:35

kind of stuff he loved shirley temples

20:37

and that wasn't a joke like when three for

20:39

five or six of them at a popular or like they

20:42

were like two hundred and eighty calories at pop or something

20:44

crazy he did the same thing he was

20:46

hi to people you know it when he didn't make the all and

20:48

be a team he was kinda delay with

20:51

his i think they were married if not fiance

20:53

at the time wasted the time having their first

20:55

child and he looks like

20:58

ah i make all and be a and then his first

21:00

child is born and he's like mad

21:03

and you know sometimes it takes a hit

21:05

to your your psa your ego

21:07

if you will and i think some of that contributed

21:10

to

21:10

well

21:12

that ever happened chris palm people forget this

21:14

is he had that year waylaid in

21:16

oklahoma city where they were they

21:18

wanted to protect his body they want to protect

21:20

him they wanted him to mentor say guilds

21:22

this alexander which he did he mentored

21:25

a lot of those guy and

21:27

you know they said look we don't want you to play back to back

21:29

she's like screw that on planes but

21:32

that was it was bit of a humbling year humbling

21:34

think because he was he was bit out of the limelight

21:36

right liberal the spotlights but they the

21:39

and sam presti you do this for me you help my young

21:41

team i'm going to take you when i'm going to make

21:43

you feel like you like you should like

21:45

you are you

21:46

the all star

21:47

if you know appreciate you and

21:50

then i

21:50

you somewhere good

21:53

that that year was really important i think

21:55

for chris paul water know of hard

21:57

and has and in a hurry

21:59

the

21:59

the

22:00

well if i don't what we know is that

22:03

philly concerned benson

22:05

that

22:06

it to james harden even

22:08

if curry has to be in that deal is

22:11

that the typical

22:14

simulation and they're going to be better i

22:16

love the way korean mb play together i

22:19

just say i think they have real chemistry set

22:22

i'm at a big guy i don't think a beads casey

22:25

and beat that like the easiest

22:27

gotta play with but i think korea

22:29

figured out how to play with maxis

22:32

kind , comes and goes when i'm when

22:35

i'm in jersey record great chemistry

22:37

with a bead when he was there in philadelphia

22:39

there read memory make maybe it's like suitors

22:41

there that do well with a bead ah my

22:44

disability and on that he died and then died and

22:46

around it again those elbow

22:48

actions of a bead can do anything off the dribble

22:50

as their overplaying on back to stop the shot

22:52

i mean it it's over

22:54

the

22:56

i was thinking there's ben simmons

22:59

other than him

23:00

if you go to brooklyn see

23:02

i think ben simmons is a perfect sit

23:04

in brooklyn yeah perfect if i'm

23:07

fund the brooklyn nets and i get ben simmons for james

23:09

harden i am throwing am very big

23:11

party because i don't care about this

23:13

i could care less

23:15

simmons has been sitting there all this time

23:18

and you're going look you don't

23:20

want to

23:20

the what awesome

23:22

the guys at really really love to shoot we

23:24

don't care if you shoot at all what we'd like you to

23:26

do is play like defensive

23:29

player the year caliber defense which image

23:31

is done every year since he's come into the league

23:34

and but he never gets i still don't think he gets an apprentice

23:36

where and we want you to take the ball

23:38

and transition and go downhill

23:40

and dare people to study because that's when he's that's

23:42

his best now people will fall the

23:45

federal i favor that's that's your thing i would say

23:47

don't as a cliff we just at least work on

23:49

the free throw shooting from i just think ben

23:51

simmons has been he has been getting

23:54

mental health counseling not from

23:56

the net the people i

23:58

spent a lifetime of ben simmons

24:01

you know before the pen it are

24:03

working on a story

24:05

themselves around them

24:06

i do think

24:07

the has it isn't i in a man i know you

24:09

know that i don't i don't agree

24:12

this past the good luck

24:15

i don't think when you're into contact you should ever do that

24:17

to a team or ,

24:19

but think in the right situation

24:21

like haley said to him like i was always sainted

24:23

guys get a decent yeah most idea day like he's

24:26

with the celtics neat imagine he was on the celtics

24:28

and you didn't have to give up jaylen brown four

24:30

at it would it be we're going to the models serve some

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so casey we talked about this would on friday

27:19

or we positive hard in an m b it

27:21

makes sense together even though like of course

27:23

if you can get to have the best and have twelve

27:26

to fifteen guys in the league you want

27:28

them on you same team but stylistically

27:30

one hundred

27:33

yeah

27:34

i want it badly i think harden is

27:36

never played with a big like and been and to be to have

27:38

never played with anybody who can create

27:40

in the pick and roll half as good as

27:42

james harden can i be with his shooting ability

27:45

get to the basket drop i

27:47

just get i get

27:49

idea

27:50

being paired with him and ,

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i go to buy him for sure but

27:55

but all in jackie and

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27:59

though year you go on that i had a different question

28:02

for a bugle good i'd rather answer a different

28:04

question okay i'm

28:06

, professor of

28:08

that say there's there's that tampering

28:13

it you to anyone

28:14

we were are mature

28:16

adults we now have the league works we

28:19

know that there's

28:20

they've gone by the way for that the free

28:23

assay yeah that investigation go and we

28:25

we know how the league words we know that there's

28:27

mutual friends and connections and

28:31

the huda here

28:34

that's not doesn't come outta nowhere if

28:37

if you're philly and there's some smoke

28:40

that bill as pretend and

28:43

and

28:43

for b o have a hard and potentially

28:46

but , already went down the road with so i can

28:48

you even back off at display once once

28:51

you open whatever pandora's box got

28:53

open d just have to see it all the way through

28:57

daryl morey we're talking about here yeah

29:00

daryl morey there is best for his

29:02

team and if he hurt you feel

29:04

my now you know that sure

29:07

that who is matter a

29:09

daryl morey than the dad's and just say

29:12

there is though is that thing about our about

29:14

at our was banned from the nets sixers game which

29:16

was game whole thing

29:17

the thing that i'd say odd cents absolute

29:19

nonsense hub and then you

29:21

have who knows how hard and of

29:24

a sudden became seduced by the the a plain silly

29:26

again is it possible the debts

29:28

you

29:31

rating you here we were yeah we'll

29:33

trade and but you got to give a simmons curry and

29:35

give us three first

29:38

the a given hundred twenty five cents and our some

29:40

crazy thank world and those are just are

29:43

yeah and then they'll say okay yeah fine

29:45

and then hard most say hey i wanted to go

29:47

there so screw you i'm walking on in the summer

29:49

movie was actually fly

29:52

brooklyn is the be careful here

29:54

okay be careful that

29:57

care so you get to choose brooklyn is either

29:59

is

29:59

expense image team are the best ben simmons

30:02

team or , i'm

30:04

like rich paul on club sports i

30:06

like it's top of my lists top

30:09

of my lists of every team in the team b a for

30:11

bin salman popular yeah salman

30:13

popular like generally sooner rather have him

30:15

in the in the limelight an array and like

30:17

a playoff team that's in the news twelve

30:20

months a year over like just going to like indiana

30:22

and just i'm out of the limelight i'm just rebuilding

30:24

my career i mean he he's in the limelight

30:27

but he's you know underneath the shadow of kyrie

30:29

irving and kevin durant the those are the guys

30:31

that are going to get the majority of the credit in the blame

30:34

i'm but he's still in a big market and he is

30:36

an ideal basketball situation like ben

30:38

simmons setting screens for kyrie irving a

30:41

ben simmons creating mismatches with kevin

30:43

durant a ability the ability

30:45

to alleviate the pressure on those

30:47

guys and transition the defensive

30:49

anchor that he could be on that team like they switch

30:51

as screens in the top five rate in the n b a

30:54

and like this is a switching defense ben simmons

30:56

[unk] switching defensive player is a perfect

30:58

fit on defense it's a perfect fit on

31:00

offense for him specifically i mean

31:03

that issue with bin salman's as long been as

31:05

fit it's always been a that's

31:07

work but issue because of

31:09

his limitations it's not it's not a concern

31:12

in brooklyn

31:13

basketball dream for him and

31:15

clubs like they should be

31:17

the am leaking to every reporter that

31:19

ha

31:20

the

31:21

it is to actually have

31:22

the yes that it's a great for a jackass

31:25

a guy group can see i actually think this is

31:27

as about

31:28

situation even though there's pressure

31:30

they're going to be a big

31:32

you're not a perfect

31:34

fit for him yeah because the pressure isn't going

31:36

to be for him to shoot because

31:39

no one going to be a look into him to do that now the

31:41

only thing i would say that i do

31:43

see as

31:44

the times is

31:47

that as a point guard i think you'd be an excellent

31:49

point

31:51

so the only

31:52

see that might be problematic

31:55

is that carrier of he needs the ball in his hands

31:57

and simmons doesn't get his

32:00

the on the ball as much as you would like to

32:03

again hill that's

32:05

really the train listen to

32:08

the that may be the only

32:09

i would give , you but i'm kevin

32:11

here i mean i found the nets

32:13

i the nets it better the what i have now

32:16

now here's the caveat

32:18

moon , the caveat we don't

32:20

know where ben simmons his head is

32:22

that we really don't because none of

32:24

us have talked to him oh

32:27

how serious is mental

32:29

or were i

32:31

think

32:32

kind of mental health issues you know and

32:35

i think some it for him as goes all the way back

32:38

that story on him i was just astonished to listen

32:40

as high school coach say your weekly

32:43

like are just get in the gym and except

32:46

thirty two percent the

32:48

three

32:49

it over with and just be like

32:51

every by you know take five

32:53

a game and make one

32:55

or two of them you know whether deaths and so

32:58

if , the kind of mental gymnastics

33:00

we're talking about that's one thing but as you guys

33:03

know mental health coverage a long

33:05

long range of things and so i don't

33:07

know know exactly

33:10

what ben simmons is is wrangling

33:12

with year or you know

33:15

you know

33:16

the that remote a story to be

33:18

which had to add some nuggets in there

33:21

that he was bad than a bead buy

33:23

them for the last playoff series because he

33:25

didn't blame and beat for that surround ourselves

33:28

and our sakes for as sets it

33:30

if is but mp was like dominant that

33:33

throughout uttered by bailey reason they lost

33:35

was ready to put it would it be

33:37

better for as cel mai

33:39

you don't my theory on that sewage i

33:41

think if everybody had just lab and let

33:44

ben the they would have been

33:46

fine all the outside

33:48

voices on in both camps the

33:50

families the big agents

33:53

so often create the friction where if

33:55

you just left my own fate

33:57

baby say i really think and

34:00

your well work friends

34:03

but they both wanted to win and they were gonna make it work

34:05

it's everybody else that got involved that made

34:08

that thing the created so much static for

34:10

them now miss the old days when

34:13

mchale didn't get along but really they were

34:15

the only two that knew about it and it was just are passive

34:17

aggressive zap ,

34:19

but you didn't have twenty other people

34:22

people from it's sad as it the ben simmons

34:24

like the wide to the family

34:26

which has which pretty rocky

34:28

as far as and be a family goes pretty there's

34:30

been a lot of drama that side and then side

34:33

and ah them of i'm sure that

34:35

as in health care say anything to add on that for

34:37

him it's that their son sammy

34:39

i think the only thing i'd out at that is

34:41

i'm i'm a couple years ago someone in some

34:43

in circles said we view him as like

34:46

of abroad be like you said he wants

34:48

to be a point guard he fancies himself as guard he

34:50

guard that that's like the only

34:53

there

34:53

i [unk] pas will pay in brooklyn accept

34:56

and embrace after this my

35:00

arm and then maybe in three years of my

35:02

contract is up enough carry my not be there anymore

35:04

he might get to be the full time

35:06

i might have been reading a year captain

35:08

you might you're either in a year

35:11

i hate america beneath a hippie play

35:14

with pseudo polish

35:17

power to to failure

35:19

next question can see

35:21

this the an extension

35:25

i would never recover duran

35:28

because he was married swan right and then

35:31

yep you assume when then they'll

35:33

take care of the other two and here we go we're going to roll

35:35

with this but the other two are not

35:38

the

35:38

it's a little bit somewhere down okay see

35:41

he signed a five year extension

35:45

in two thousand and allowed to

35:47

right it seems summer

35:49

as the brian didn't

35:51

have the out for the fifth year

35:54

the he was just like a mall and for half a decade

35:58

the he regretted that at some point over the

35:59

the that five years specific today

36:02

the yard and

36:04

this time around i think he signed

36:07

the be the first domino and now they're

36:10

so any thoughts on now

36:13

i i don't

36:15

the things the way you do i ,

36:17

care about rents like you know this is where i want

36:19

to be i'm a commitment to them i

36:22

want my word to be good good

36:24

think that i think he's a man of his word many ways

36:26

i really do really i

36:28

think kevin durant's good enough and

36:30

convert enough that he's enough like when

36:33

someone else and i'll win else them to i

36:36

think that's the right answer next question jackie's

36:39

steve nash curse it do

36:41

we need to have an exorcism for steve nash do

36:43

we had to hire as three to sit retire

36:45

but priests with legs holding a basketball

36:48

and it and alec it's not it's

36:50

not steve nash am i've had

36:52

two different coaches why adore say

36:54

to me it's the curse of kenny atkinson because

36:56

they did kenny atkinson wrong and

36:58

he's one of the nicest guys in the league and

37:01

one of the most popular guys and one of the most hardworking

37:03

guys and i think everybody like it's the curse

37:05

a kenny atkinson not the curse steve nash

37:07

soon as to do the wrong sexy national

37:10

because of the year last year for juggling

37:12

all the personalities and situation a

37:15

before it all you know i i don't

37:17

think you're thinking this think of other

37:20

crazy shit that happened him on the sun's

37:22

i know and then think of he goes to

37:24

the lakers and they're on the cover of aside

37:27

as i may as well as i get his

37:29

ass

37:29

yeah but steve nash's everything that's

37:32

right so i can't i'm

37:34

with you

37:35

i'd i'd go to have an exorcism

37:38

for success

37:40

but actually i come out the bastard

37:42

series last year

37:44

entirely

37:46

and there they are go

37:48

on like what was that one run was like are the

37:50

seltzer frisk it a day and in brooklyn scores like

37:52

forty points around the merlin oh

37:54

my god and the

37:56

fact that this could be done in

37:59

less than less than

38:01

i think is insane the i

38:03

a party gets traded this week

38:07

be a stories we've ever had

38:09

been , from his

38:12

tank job in houston to then it's

38:14

to brooklyn and here we go the new big three

38:16

oh my god and and saw

38:18

think today that westbrook le bron

38:20

and davis have downplayed as

38:22

many games together as hearted

38:24

to read and tyree wives apostle

38:28

wow the

38:31

insanity yeah

38:33

etiquette even get crazy i'd imagine if imagine deal

38:35

as actually happen the match first game

38:38

with

38:39

they're playing in philadelphia

38:41

the mayor

38:42

the same a carrier of and kevin er at

38:44

roland

38:45

bird out of my awesome i'm fired up

38:47

even just the thought of it like ,

38:49

here's my question question ben simmons

38:51

gets simmons does

38:54

he play runaway is

38:56

he

38:57

ready to i don't uncle i don't know

39:00

week

39:01

i wandered around

39:04

i got you

39:06

i believe what are you what is ben

39:08

simmons ends up in sacramento after all

39:11

you are a

39:13

vienna

39:14

the talk about any day and age and a second but indiana

39:17

is that in firesale mode apparently for what

39:19

they got for the verse and now

39:21

and now expects a

39:23

i'm now you know

39:24

knows what's next for them on

39:26

play impact as hard

39:30

and

39:31

ah other factors this

39:33

brooklyn mass which saved our lives

39:37

what a default to blaming kyrie cause i do

39:39

feel like you doubt this is now

39:41

three straight franchises that we've seen complete

39:43

dysfunction and some point we have to start

39:45

looking his way at least a little bit i think that's

39:47

fair but ,

39:50

i don't have fired and as i eat at a shutdown

39:52

that trade rumors two weeks ago and they could have been

39:55

a dead so read way didn't and

39:57

either and went the funk right away

39:59

epi who would you go it

40:03

i mean i guess

40:05

the have a part time player by default

40:08

but more than anything else i think assists overall

40:10

circumstance been too

40:13

many guys are gonna hurt in addition

40:15

to kyrie being you know and

40:17

a situation that he's and given the mandate

40:19

in the yourself i'm is is released over

40:22

the summer to could have predicted all of this

40:24

to happen on

40:27

go durant's threads ,

40:30

which is allowed

40:32

the number around aga that

40:34

way that out go kyrie who

40:36

he now is it's another

40:38

year the special

40:40

theme in his at the forefront

40:43

this is now i don't know how many years we'd

40:45

see this jackie any where would you say

40:47

well if we can take the blame

40:49

pot pie fact pie fact

40:53

shouldn't the nets is a whole take certain

40:55

part of the blame for just making up their

40:57

minds that like right word

40:58

it

41:00

they're gonna tell us how it's gonna go

41:02

and were going to follow it soaks the

41:05

hero down the be part

41:07

of the deal site so know like every

41:10

gm in the league would do that i would you that surgery

41:12

isn't shaped by the way too young to jordan's a really good

41:14

guy is a good guy in

41:17

and he thought the cliff really fast

41:19

so but i was so will agree it

41:22

on but you know then you got a trade

41:24

jared

41:25

who should be making his

41:27

first all star parents and isn't made as well

41:29

as it relates mint agree lives but anyway so

41:33

you know that the dysfunction

41:36

addicting

41:37

function

41:38

the decisions they made at that

41:40

were dictated by

41:42

the guys who were come into that teams i'm

41:45

gonna slip a little that blame in there that's

41:48

a good one and the jordan

41:50

thing it's basically a two headed

41:52

mistake right because one when they gave their contract

41:54

people are like wait what he has been what writer

41:56

years what what is going on

41:59

who

41:59

he should

42:01

that trade you

42:04

, when instead of i did shared our

42:06

could that get rid guard temples contract

42:08

and that's why our had to be in it and it's

42:11

issued a bit they were those guys

42:13

are trying to stay did you

42:15

out but

42:16

but the revisionist history on that as well

42:19

jared allen was gonna be a free agent and we couldn't

42:21

have hit we and we couldn't afford to pay him the hundred

42:23

and he got it it

42:25

i'm getting that's insane insane

42:29

the nine and trade of his an asset in then can

42:31

agree why were we as well the

42:34

pudding just shared our their pockets

42:38

turning am told they get

42:40

oh depot

42:43

month to month and a half flipped him to miami

42:45

and then if you look at with it it basically

42:47

got

42:48

the him

42:49

so they take whatever the assets

42:52

that were the actual players

42:54

and got zero

42:56

next question because i still i better

42:58

go on the record i still

43:00

hate were houston got for james harden

43:03

you could argue

43:06

more that tae bo charity year

43:08

and , hard in the

43:10

arrow maybe pointing down a tiny bit maybe

43:13

was good trade i still don't

43:15

like the trade here's what they got they got

43:18

first

43:19

twenty two twenty four

43:21

right to one of those pics is this year we know that zoc

43:24

could be a top ten pick they got swaps

43:26

and twenty one which is moot point

43:30

twenty seven and then they

43:32

got they ability to dump allen and

43:34

temple to get a late first from

43:36

the cabs and with that old deeper

43:39

the any brooklyn swap so we're

43:42

talking swap that area

43:44

where it kevin durant is healthy

43:47

that those swaps will come into play with houston

43:50

just talking about a bunch picked out you could say

43:52

well with this is our boss the got tatum

43:55

i don't know i'd know i'd boston got

43:58

tatum partly because prokhorov

43:59

or whatever

44:01

like whatever strategy we had but still

44:03

what area that and one

44:06

and basically torpedoes the team and

44:09

, that was a gift from god i don't know if that happens

44:11

again a cathy i still don't like what

44:13

houston got have you changed your mind it

44:16

would you rather have them silence if you're houston

44:19

it happened and how he the situation

44:22

where they're losing in there and there's really

44:24

no hope i mean and that's in that scenario

44:26

who's to say he would be pushing his way out of

44:28

houston so quickly like hard and my been our

44:30

brooklyn i think the picture of a safer

44:33

the bat and they they already to be flexible

44:35

during the off season in any event any

44:37

player might become available are

44:39

you want to trade up for and target like

44:41

if they if they are end up with the fourth

44:44

this year's draft they

44:47

now have the ammo to put together and say

44:49

okay we're going to trade up

44:51

we want either

44:54

comes into play for the rockets but was events

44:56

him and say wasn't just seven then

44:58

a bunch of picks greater we're going

45:00

kept throwing eggs from there and but simmons

45:03

was such was big from so

45:05

i don't realize i would have taken simmons i

45:07

just think that was the better offered

45:11

it what what what do we know

45:13

that for a fact that he just won a deal hard

45:15

and the mori i'd

45:17

ever stats

45:20

the help what i heard harden and direct

45:22

wanted to play together and lobbied

45:24

josiah

45:26

that jack anything yeah that's what i heard too

45:29

but who knows everything

45:31

with this that everything gets changed around now

45:33

because of the way things are done and pics

45:37

and you just never know with

45:39

picks because once one catastrophic

45:41

injury changes of franchises

45:43

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45:50

what he a pretty high pick but

45:52

it's also great thing if your gm trying to keep your

45:54

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45:56

look at all these pics but we all know to the

45:58

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45:59

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46:02

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46:03

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or katie and harden i think we all

48:02

agree

48:03

they together i think they lobby just side

48:05

the nets management

48:06

this happen and i was on my way harder went

48:08

to ness i would

48:10

assume they still have still have and relationship

48:13

i would assume kd who's been pretty quiet

48:16

other than going at stephen a this week that

48:22

is lobbying hard and to stay

48:26

but i would also say in brooklyn management

48:28

is like here's what i think we could get a part of these

48:30

when i think we're going to sign and forward by the sets

48:33

there are like what , we think durant's rose

48:36

even during this whole saga is

48:38

he can silly area for nets management

48:40

is he like about i don't care i'll play with

48:42

whoever he's had the ability

48:45

with saw in saw heated zoc the westboro

48:47

for a while for a him and hard and we're

48:50

closer and closer and okay see

48:52

and then not as close and then they became

48:54

close again like he matches the i

48:56

don't

48:57

i'm out or he

49:00

i mean if if

49:02

you're katie i he is like a basketball

49:04

junkie i he he did those videos

49:06

analyzing high school players years ago he loves

49:08

it if you're a kevin duran watching james

49:11

harden right now in the back he reminded

49:13

get to be like this isn't a james

49:15

harden i was live in okay see if up

49:17

behind him behind watched when an mvp in houston

49:20

maybe getting maybe twenty five year old ben simmons

49:22

who can they be they antibodies and

49:24

sense be a point guard a facilitator

49:26

for us and off and maybe i can be better for

49:29

all say that obviously likes it either

49:31

move on off and so maybe he's back

49:33

where our man i thought i'd be more fun to play with james

49:36

the maybe it is so maybe he will

49:39

gonna be boss nabil

49:43

bar for how not book

49:45

at the games and see hard and just

49:47

who is looking into space as

49:50

often suppliers back caught behind him

49:52

and not get frustrated were in the same way

49:54

like with the brawn james of what does illustrate

49:56

right now that you thought like the basketball

49:58

analyst inside of these

50:00

this has to be saying

50:03

how about if is big

50:05

the to win a championship in i think for hard

50:07

and you're right jackie gleason earlier

50:10

for the nets i like that version of the nets more

50:13

we get simmons and a pic

50:15

danny

50:17

the you're covered her and i like the idea that

50:19

to jackie ,

50:21

did the be a turn into an

50:24

hour

50:26

jumping prime ribs and changing

50:28

friend either

50:29

have you been there are like

50:31

that oh my god i would have thought

50:35

but that's a you for for me to goes

50:37

back to a you because that's where you'll learn all

50:39

that stuff you know is on the bus

50:43

the

50:44

it is about katie

50:46

he supported kyrie irving start

50:48

to finish publicly now i don't know what goes on

50:50

privately or publicly he

50:52

has supported him there has the

50:55

wavering moment

50:56

publicly and

50:58

i

50:59

wrong

51:00

like that about him to be honest you know

51:03

neither

51:03

the of it is from abroad to kevin

51:07

, sure everything you said about him watching

51:09

russell westbrook westbrook he hasn't

51:11

said anything either so like

51:13

if you you don't have some private

51:16

conversations or thoughts about it that's

51:18

fine but both of those guys publicly

51:21

have supported their players supported their teammate

51:24

as , for dame

51:27

we don't feel like will be in the shade

51:29

that

51:30

now by

51:33

potentially be in there new look at new orleans

51:36

it all they are gotta do something oh

51:38

my goodness they have got to do something so

51:43

this basically five hundred right

51:46

and i don't know zion come back the

51:48

share not but you know the embattled gm

51:50

that so as a team that use a gun and shot

51:52

at swing for some sort of fence that bunch packs

51:55

they could package together and com trade

51:57

pretty dicey there's been a lot of mccollum buzzard

51:59

and that i'd be like

52:02

the bucks a gram john are

52:04

on track to yeah what early just start

52:06

yeah yeah for a heart attack what's

52:09

the name out there are any yep there

52:11

to see do if

52:14

if

52:15

are you trading for

52:17

a , guard who's making thirty

52:19

million bucks like to what end what

52:21

am i getting i'm

52:24

indeed

52:25

the around via and

52:27

a mean hope he's healthy yemeni even forget

52:29

zion for many gotta give ingram a scoring

52:31

partner but i think for new

52:33

orleans i would like cj

52:35

i'm damn it isn't perfect but

52:38

it sounds men it gives you a perimeter playmaker

52:40

is better than develop a grammar i'd

52:42

it's an upgrade for sure and s this is a team as

52:44

china make , name for itself

52:47

i like it in that sense and with the position they're in

52:49

in like a do what he the jackie the

52:51

i do and i think scientist

52:53

loons so large over all of all even

52:56

before he got hurt you know you and i were joking

52:58

about him wanted to play for the next you know we were kidding

53:00

sort of maybe it's an

53:03

affiliate are you just want zion to

53:06

one upstairs

53:08

you're not there's been

53:11

the replay research for this length of time it's

53:13

impossible for the team in the player to be on the same because

53:17

you start doubting yourself then you start dying them

53:19

and you know that's just human nature or

53:22

though if on the pelicans i want it

53:24

i once i on to say

53:25

it's a good trade deadline for us man i

53:29

hope i can get back i cj

53:31

mccollum everyone likes playing with cj mccollum

53:33

never heard anybody say a bad word about in terms

53:35

of being a teammate or is it awesome guy i

53:38

ask he came on my part i shared i had to

53:40

apologize them for starring in a trade rumors

53:42

for five years of because he was always

53:44

eat i was always do dame and cj awesome i

53:46

make sense of those you tube as bright red hood

53:49

with the zion saying

53:52

so , amazed by us have the right

53:54

now i'm i would bet anything on this

53:57

is gonna sign an extension he said three

53:59

major injury

53:59

that

54:00

the have that you can't mess around that's

54:03

pretty much money but said that about every stay

54:05

there your whole

54:06

right but i did you made the key point

54:09

mccollum ingram

54:12

now he brings i am back now

54:15

he of down sadness who's been really good

54:17

said am now it's like you know you have it if

54:19

some adults out there you're

54:21

building at least something and you have some pics to

54:23

make an online melbourne oh wait

54:26

yeah we as last and

54:28

indefensible but sunlit

54:30

writer you are you sir

54:32

my i could i

54:34

they didn't play again until twenty twenty

54:36

three somebody with so give him a max where

54:38

did he did it

54:40

twenty twenty three i'd

54:42

, i'd still i think he's getting eye

54:44

contact regardless i'm just saying

54:47

new are

54:48

in the summer to , him

54:50

some security which i think he's gonna take

54:53

take don't i don't know if you're him where you're going

54:55

to mess around with after a year be like i

54:57

like see medicaid the guy

55:00

maybe we've guy i owe

55:02

you with you know you are you eyelid

55:04

i i i don't know anything are under

55:06

under saying would die on here why

55:09

not the like if you do want

55:11

to leave if , actually

55:14

do you're making

55:16

five million dollars and forty forty two the

55:19

an an appalling some

55:21

who knows

55:23

it used the high

55:25

teens now for that last year before

55:27

he can become unrestricted again so

55:30

i think for williamson the it's

55:33

it's not a guarantee but it's that's

55:35

why the pelicans do need to bring some adults into

55:37

the room as he said and make the seem appealing

55:39

make it a place to be wants stay or

55:41

word nord what so we're not even talking about

55:44

this

55:44

from now it's so tough because it's

55:47

where you can't replace the money any

55:49

other time the

55:52

up into a but this is i just fundamentally

55:54

at twenty million dollar loss

55:56

that you can't replace him less

55:59

you are you gonna city like new york and

56:02

you could say what we do

56:04

this nikes gonna get ninety

56:07

five million dollar bonus or whatever like

56:09

the place

56:11

sponsors but you know with the world

56:13

larger we didn't

56:15

jones either i apologize for

56:17

for because he's been will adjust

56:19

them to light as a rookie bring

56:22

him even if i had doesn't

56:24

can come back second be of fun

56:26

frisky i play and same

56:29

the play and situation in the west is

56:31

like it's , grizzly

56:34

like portland still in there as it's has

56:36

set see there there know

56:38

certain a looks like they're try to sell

56:40

indiana became a cellar which i think

56:42

we expected so basically for love birds

56:45

they get a ladder of texted first round pick

56:47

from cleveland and then they get this east

56:49

and second and that ,

56:51

be you know in the low thirties

56:53

which is a thirties pack but

56:56

i thought they get but for for him why

57:00

why did it he added to the snacks as

57:03

and was there anybody

57:05

as out there that could have given him more than this

57:07

cause i was surprised by that this was

57:09

the trick i mean surprised i i disagree

57:11

was think it was good return for indiana here

57:14

they get to pick some the for twenty

57:16

to thirty two thirty three range depending

57:18

on where you some falls of going to give

57:20

them falls lot of flexibility on draft night

57:22

similar to what flexibility said earlier about like with houston

57:25

have any and ends up fifth or sixth

57:27

they'll have some ammo

57:29

and the problem for

57:31

them is just like as you get deeper into the first

57:33

rounders year's class seems like it'll be weaker

57:36

and we'll see how to change but

57:39

those pics and twenty twenty two don't necessarily

57:41

have the same values i'm at a deeper draft

57:43

really seen in recent years but what birds

57:45

i don't think there's people like warner

57:48

for him he's been a notoriously inefficient

57:50

score

57:51

now i'm is most

57:53

limited career or baby best was

57:56

his rookie year so

57:58

for ama

57:59

that he the

57:59

volume score and there's some value but

58:03

it's no guarantee that to be a

58:05

plus results for the cavaliers and this and

58:07

either because of his scoring inefficiencies

58:10

yeah except for he does he

58:12

the need

58:13

that drop yeah that's exactly what cleveland

58:16

needs with they're missing right after cleveland so

58:18

fun i'm really excited

58:20

and emmy really i think they're really

58:22

i like

58:23

last year he scarlets too bad sexton

58:25

is gone through such an interesting

58:27

team so that's i think

58:30

indiana the one thing you can never discount with

58:32

them

58:33

the old school owners

58:35

what's in their luxury tax line they want

58:37

to get way they won't also to cabs

58:40

i hope they don't shirts and we will

58:42

actually i do hope they trade sobornost

58:45

i'd like to see him go somewhere

58:47

more relevant in the league because i just

58:49

fly know you like him to bill

58:51

love watching them play and

58:54

the always thought they would trade

58:56

there before supper

58:58

it might even trade both if this really

59:00

the firesale that

59:02

the

59:04

so i'm lerner that's a problem turn

59:06

of that

59:07

killed their plan you know i figured

59:09

he would have been traded see i haven't gotten or any

59:12

so can see i i ,

59:14

the cavs to get gordon at

59:17

that's where the team they have

59:19

a as other he's playing well i'm

59:21

and i'm think that the price for gordon

59:24

if they've done that i guess is

59:26

is twenty seven and

59:28

, bounced around a little he's been a different types

59:31

of situations and you know if you

59:33

look at adding is like are you

59:36

know where we have your mobley now

59:38

and if kevin love him argument

59:40

if garland your lover

59:43

you've admin

59:45

exit , accident when he kebabs

59:47

fact fact than you have some

59:49

pics the accumulated to to me

59:52

this this was a move i'm guessing

59:54

i've been reading the storage shed that they really

59:56

thought about this for five

59:58

six weeks and they're like this the actually the

1:00:00

guy we want to add soda contract

1:00:02

this year next year and

1:00:04

, he does while we can extend them

1:00:07

them i think from just watching them i thought gordon

1:00:09

would have made the added adding him in

1:00:11

a playoff series i trust him when the burn

1:00:13

as a glove birds kind of a ball stopper that's

1:00:17

i i'm not positive about him with

1:00:19

the flow that this team ass so i guess

1:00:21

we'll find out

1:00:22

down on it i , he's

1:00:24

definitely leans towards scoring

1:00:26

i don't know if i'd go for bought ball stopper

1:00:29

arm he can pass a little bit i'm in

1:00:31

may be surrounded by the talent they have and cleveland

1:00:34

he leans into that even more more

1:00:36

he's not like a gov orchestrator

1:00:38

like a of the office by any means

1:00:40

which is why like jackie said he he brings what

1:00:43

they the that any downhill

1:00:45

a guy who can attack the basket and as and compliments

1:00:48

the perimeter oriented game of dareus carlin

1:00:50

they give them i mean that he's him shuffle different

1:00:52

pieces with jared allen

1:00:55

or added mobley the so many different pick and roll

1:00:57

combinations that they can play with arm

1:00:59

and i can be effective together so i

1:01:01

like it for cleveland i don't love it i'm

1:01:04

similar to like you said bill because of just the

1:01:06

natural eric gordon fit what he would have been it

1:01:08

but it almost six years older yeah and

1:01:10

he doesn't fit war is

1:01:12

so this this is clearly a traits cleveland

1:01:14

it's about more this season

1:01:17

it's about a few rolling weber into

1:01:19

something that they want him to be the fix everything

1:01:21

else well in that kevin love rejuvenation

1:01:23

season jackie

1:01:25

a guy

1:01:26

he was like way back in the freezer

1:01:28

he was gibbs like

1:01:31

the like what is that is that a pizza you're right

1:01:33

poland

1:01:34

kevin had a say

1:01:38

aside from around when

1:01:40

i go to i thought you'd forget good

1:01:42

he is yeah seriously you

1:01:44

forget a good he is again it's

1:01:46

all about said you said that earlier seven the

1:01:49

ninety five percent of all and be able it's

1:01:51

all about fit is an end

1:01:54

and your mental attitude and you know his attitude

1:01:56

sucks he deserves to get criticized

1:01:58

get criticized he knows that you know

1:01:59

yeah he was

1:02:01

the and i'm a champion i don't need this crap you don't

1:02:03

so now the center kind of fun to be

1:02:05

around and he helps them he does

1:02:08

he said and i salute a mean he's really been good

1:02:10

were you know it's a great it out as

1:02:12

fast as forever i mean i just feel like

1:02:15

i know he won a title in cleveland he'd probably do that

1:02:17

over again but just , worst possible

1:02:20

theme for him to go to for what his goes where i

1:02:22

just love when he's around the basket nureyev

1:02:24

when years when you're just putting him in the corner and you're

1:02:26

putting twenty five feet away you're taking this guy

1:02:28

who who single greatest

1:02:31

gift is his instincts

1:02:33

around the basket for as offensive rebounds

1:02:35

for the better grab defensive rebound and send

1:02:37

to pass out and all of these things that

1:02:39

have peace sustaining in the corner like jae crowder

1:02:42

right that's where i'm not using those guess

1:02:44

so of it's been nice to see it again this year

1:02:47

well in his you know he completely changes by

1:02:49

you were talking before about changing your body think about

1:02:51

minnesota kevin the

1:02:54

back and look at the old photos modeled

1:02:57

his body to because he had to because

1:02:59

he saw or enough

1:03:01

to realize the games get the

1:03:05

our survive the reason i

1:03:07

get a thrive out here in the perimeter negative figure out

1:03:09

a way to do it see completely under when a complete

1:03:11

change in his by even

1:03:13

other guy that he's not plant based but he's

1:03:15

close and you know which

1:03:17

is every single care

1:03:19

body that's you

1:03:21

may that change ahead of

1:03:24

you know roy hibbert

1:03:25

japanese like oh crap

1:03:29

where are you know an

1:03:31

average of eleven

1:03:33

planning for it

1:03:35

a , since december first the

1:03:38

two best records

1:03:39

memphis a twenty six and eight

1:03:42

in phoenix had twenty four and seven

1:03:45

and nobody else

1:03:47

really close the cost of them within four

1:03:49

five games that surprised by phoenix they've

1:03:51

been the best team start to finish our year members

1:03:54

who you are on are pod last week and you the whole

1:03:56

members love it love fest which

1:03:58

fest which agreed with

1:03:59

i'm

1:04:02

or twenty six and eight

1:04:05

that's a real record that's real that's

1:04:07

now i'm starting to wonder

1:04:10

what's the ceiling for this team and we talked

1:04:12

about is

1:04:14

this a team that she go and miss about as we talked

1:04:16

about this on a park as i did a couple days guys

1:04:19

yeah sharper but , this to

1:04:21

you is this two thousand and ten okay

1:04:23

see this be a fun ride

1:04:25

ride get our feet our or

1:04:28

is this some things a little more special

1:04:30

and a little more profound could this be the two thousand

1:04:33

and thirteen pacers or two

1:04:35

dozen for pacers that kept them with their first

1:04:37

run happy

1:04:38

or is this like of feel good story that ultimately

1:04:41

dies a grandson

1:04:43

i mean if it dies around to that is bad

1:04:45

is bad and we have to so

1:04:48

still i bank a barrel and make it around

1:04:50

to and and this western conference playoff

1:04:52

race and lose a tough hard fought series

1:04:55

or even within five validate as area that

1:04:57

case of interest is a show not

1:05:01

sure , made another person or else i'll

1:05:03

years it's rosanna that's that's answer

1:05:05

our i'm all about blown up and

1:05:07

trying to get to win a championship better be

1:05:09

the goal for every franchise i

1:05:11

think with memphis that's that's why of the perspective

1:05:14

that i do i think if they make

1:05:16

if they rush

1:05:18

this that could be that

1:05:20

could be the a negative for them when it comes

1:05:23

to actually winning and competing for

1:05:25

championship years to come this

1:05:27

course so yeah yeah i'm

1:05:29

i'm not concerned almost wouldn't how far they go

1:05:31

into play off the sheer it's about the

1:05:33

development of these players are how they've grown

1:05:35

together like it's it's a remarkable the paris

1:05:38

in this position that they aren't as crazy

1:05:40

that they're right here right now so the play off

1:05:42

and how that results for them i

1:05:45

mean it's all part of getting experience so

1:05:47

they can actually

1:05:48

i'm down with that but jackie i

1:05:51

feel i just three really good team

1:05:52

right now

1:05:53

the and i would act

1:05:56

shit we could actually like

1:05:58

well it

1:05:59

remind me of tray yelling in atlanta last year

1:06:02

jammer ancestry young you know is

1:06:04

just exploded said all

1:06:07

the positive self taught you could possibly want and

1:06:09

enough to pass out to the rest of the guys on his team to

1:06:11

share a little bit simplistic

1:06:13

the all over the place desmond bay

1:06:16

the me is still the key to that team because he says

1:06:18

so many ups and downs with injuries i i think

1:06:21

she's

1:06:22

where are we haven't even come close

1:06:24

he

1:06:26

i mean it's had some injuries as we know

1:06:30

they're just remind me of it land you know

1:06:32

who got to the conference finals last year member

1:06:35

yes

1:06:37

kyle thought it had

1:06:40

been watching been watching jar i'm gonna say something

1:06:43

the religious

1:06:44

bear with me especially you jackie like either way

1:06:46

to like philo

1:06:48

right thing because this because this this is that

1:06:50

is like that most hyperbolic being

1:06:52

i'm a minute they make

1:06:55

get a drink first i

1:06:58

was it was whiskey it's just watching

1:07:01

job yo , not

1:07:03

going to like this i already know go ahead ahead

1:07:07

we were there for late for

1:07:09

young for oh

1:07:11

my god you're not god in this

1:07:14

is why said brad of the cigarettes

1:07:16

brad of

1:07:19

the most fun

1:07:21

this was when he would go

1:07:22

the basket and he would go

1:07:24

up

1:07:26

this shit what happened and their be these

1:07:28

double clutches and pumps or he dunk

1:07:30

over some

1:07:31

it got to the point and puzzle it back

1:07:34

in that era guys were close

1:07:36

guys were under thirty and so there is a fear factor

1:07:39

to which i think we have a job but the

1:07:41

thing that was so great about him those early years

1:07:43

was just have citing was to watch him go to

1:07:45

the basket and he was just doing stuff we really

1:07:47

hadn't seen other than people like

1:07:50

the even with jordan was to be double clutches

1:07:53

these him sideways forty two

1:07:55

fat five degree angles and yeah

1:07:57

this

1:07:58

these had a day at

1:07:59

the do that

1:08:01

in watching

1:08:03

jar the shared reminds me that and i'm

1:08:05

not saying he's jordan and i'm not

1:08:07

saying is that start any it's

1:08:09

like when when i watch him do that

1:08:12

he read the of young jordan

1:08:14

where there's a lot of how did he do that stuff

1:08:17

i initially i was like he's derrick rose is

1:08:19

back there grows is like rose westbrook

1:08:21

like the same kind of thing

1:08:24

couldn't do the stuff that he does that the

1:08:26

doubled such the

1:08:27

a crazy fucking shit

1:08:29

that he does well reminds

1:08:32

me a be a desert and i'm sorry and

1:08:34

the other thing that jamarat done

1:08:36

that those guys didn't do as january

1:08:38

can shoot right ,

1:08:40

themselves out of shoe oh i'm sure he's getting

1:08:42

some help help i mean you know the

1:08:45

early knock on him was well he he's just one of

1:08:47

those guys exciting guys but he can't you

1:08:49

know teams know defense was just sag

1:08:51

awesome and you can't make him pay well i just don't think that's

1:08:53

going to be true so he's really fun

1:08:55

to watch but i'm sorry i just can't go there with you so

1:08:57

sorry i listen i'm not going all the way

1:08:59

there i'm not saying that you're down to say this

1:09:02

one say quality really

1:09:05

reminds me of jordan care if he was that to he

1:09:07

are now i mean there's probably a few hyperbolic

1:09:10

but he sure as hell of fun and

1:09:12

i'm not i'm not going to let comparisons ruined my

1:09:14

enjoyment of watching java or and just

1:09:17

like weasel her way to the basket or

1:09:19

speed bursts his way to the bow

1:09:21

it is launched himself where

1:09:24

he doesn't and so many different ways of the left

1:09:26

hand with the right hand like the other day against

1:09:28

orlando still you mention how like

1:09:30

jordan will be getting close lined get

1:09:32

i had this layout where was like this

1:09:34

less foot last hands

1:09:36

school spanish and that orlando help

1:09:38

defender canada did the way he timed

1:09:41

his job

1:09:42

yeah flat to bedroom

1:09:44

intentionally but others like one

1:09:46

of those moments that reminds you about while from the

1:09:48

past when they were intentionally getting

1:09:50

close i have a job like remarkable and

1:09:53

can't get enough a water him drive to the bathroom so

1:09:55

in that sense i love it very well he's a lot

1:09:57

right for all m b a we agree that like we're

1:09:59

the i figured say i

1:10:02

well i'm just curious

1:10:04

i think she's probably grab

1:10:06

in the cari spot if he can stay healthy the

1:10:08

rest of the air really think so i think

1:10:10

it's and play for him yet and i first or second

1:10:13

near yeah isn't isn't the bagger you know

1:10:15

the other guy who's like this just that

1:10:17

gosh

1:10:18

the basket in the air stuff young

1:10:20

coby was like that to read at i think

1:10:24

the got older and kind

1:10:26

of that two thousand six to two

1:10:28

we became kind of the dominant coby

1:10:30

memory for people in a year was

1:10:33

more recent and with the

1:10:35

focal point yeah it'll have more space

1:10:37

cause shaq was there anymore but you

1:10:39

are says the late nineties

1:10:41

coby games either

1:10:43

, and that was you're just like

1:10:45

oh my god this guy the way the goes

1:10:47

to the basket she's

1:10:48

there's been so little like that too but vince

1:10:51

was a lot bigger i think yeah mj

1:10:54

there they were like kind of there's a frailty

1:10:56

to their bodies were you're nervous as their

1:10:58

own up for you know they coby

1:11:01

i did a piece with koby once a million years

1:11:03

ago i was it was it

1:11:05

out the sgn i can't remember but i

1:11:07

sat down and watch film with them and

1:11:09

film of oscar any show me what he stole from

1:11:11

oscar

1:11:12

we sat down what's like a lot of jordan film

1:11:14

and aegis though everything he was a thief

1:11:16

like all the great ones any

1:11:18

was telling me the early on his career

1:11:20

he said like a lot of the stuff jordan was

1:11:22

doing he didn't hurt either

1:11:25

that you do not a postcards up in the

1:11:28

post right that was some down and told them about later

1:11:30

on but as i put i knew i could i had

1:11:32

the athleticism to do so he would like have

1:11:35

films attorney would attorney sit there and watch until

1:11:37

like michael cooper used to did when did when trying to figure

1:11:39

out how to guard larry bird he just watch him over

1:11:41

and over and over again so the said

1:11:43

to do things that remind you of jordan

1:11:45

at that's by design that's not by accent

1:11:47

now i'd be like his job watch

1:11:51

film a coli or or jordan or he

1:11:53

probably as he probably is like a man on my own

1:11:55

guy in this is how like this is how i do

1:11:57

it but i the

1:11:59

thing

1:12:00

three that guy that young cobija jordan

1:12:03

what we see from guys he's

1:12:05

only the basket he's

1:12:07

not he's gonna decide later

1:12:10

when when right is outside

1:12:13

in a lane i'm jumping

1:12:14

the and then i'll try to figure it out as this

1:12:17

guy bounces off and i think that

1:12:19

such they like doc was like

1:12:21

that to your daughter of statements oh my

1:12:23

god funny hawkins was of round

1:12:25

but i think it's a c cognac

1:12:30

but yeah doctor jay for sure

1:12:32

fact i was just talking to doctor jay for a project

1:12:34

you

1:12:35

that a bit yeah eddie was tell me that you

1:12:38

, the first it'll fall don't

1:12:40

eat he he wasn't planning on

1:12:42

it you know he was like gonna go do the big

1:12:45

dipper lion you know

1:12:47

the also like wow i'm kind of

1:12:50

oh when she loves switched

1:12:52

to work to be the aired say later

1:12:55

sooner should i don't get like just one hundred

1:12:57

for like a witness love that a man i would persist

1:13:00

that for our going to famous they did

1:13:02

eighty bottles play when it as the soup on a desk

1:13:04

i would think obama break than a couple

1:13:06

more things in them ago

1:13:10

hey if you've ever traveled

1:13:12

for a game you know you gotta figure

1:13:14

out everything out everything a time especially begun west

1:13:16

coast east coast gotta think about

1:13:18

when

1:13:19

the land how much time ago

1:13:22

to act go directly to the game

1:13:24

to i have

1:13:26

how much second to my hotel he said

1:13:29

perfectly

1:13:31

need a , credit card

1:13:34

the integrate airline

1:13:36

the you probably everyone i want to check

1:13:39

it work

1:13:40

luckily the delta skymiles

1:13:43

american express cards for people like us

1:13:46

what they like but if you travel

1:13:49

yeah

1:13:53

because with the trade deadline it's four days

1:13:55

away with

1:13:58

pat

1:14:00

chicago in our on friday yes

1:14:04

the yeah

1:14:05

yeah so and

1:14:08

so don't move around the fringes but they

1:14:11

won't actually make around they they don't don't need

1:14:13

to okay

1:14:15

who

1:14:17

it as nerc age

1:14:25

the either on friday

1:14:29

the report

1:14:31

the above gun

1:14:32

jackie

1:14:34

mccomb goes maybe nerc it's

1:14:36

face only i could leonard the deal they

1:14:39

want a little

1:14:41

markets yeah yeah i agree with that

1:14:44

something about

1:14:45

great com

1:14:48

the yoga

1:14:49

don't look like most you know dwight schrute

1:14:52

cousin most assists

1:14:54

, of

1:14:57

or

1:14:59

there now

1:15:02

here know the alarm

1:15:04

that you know what they're going to do you know it can do they need to

1:15:06

get under the cap to they want to get under the luxury

1:15:08

cap they want some brooklyn's money and

1:15:11

, clippers money so they'll deal shrewder

1:15:13

i think they'll get they'll deal shrewder to somebody

1:15:17

and get

1:15:17

the get under that number

1:15:21

then prefers nineteen and ten ah my

1:15:24

team boise item

1:15:27

you know really like alas believers they were

1:15:29

you let us he was allowed we wanted to be

1:15:31

back i told you and you know you could

1:15:33

argue that he doesn't have for the all star

1:15:35

game you could argue that i mean i get lively

1:15:37

and then fleet god

1:15:40

that

1:15:41

chris yeah look at his numbers

1:15:43

over the last

1:15:45

been back to the are you better

1:15:47

others he's been back to the

1:15:48

little guy be even better now because he smarter

1:15:50

he's stronger

1:15:54

coach they're unbelievable what they've done so

1:15:57

cassie today

1:15:59

the

1:15:59

the deadline because the east again as

1:16:02

we keep saying it sonics it

1:16:04

the open right now and you know

1:16:07

said the dragon

1:16:08

they get a little frisky

1:16:12

i haven't heard anything in terms

1:16:15

of targets and what not but how did you not

1:16:17

at least for i just you said does go

1:16:19

theaters better than he's ever been right now they put

1:16:21

the ball in his hands letting him run point more

1:16:23

often be a playmaker and he looks

1:16:25

absolutely sensational never mind everybody

1:16:28

else and that he made like that because we're and

1:16:30

always has to me like his role as don't play

1:16:32

guys who sought i mean they don't play anybody to

1:16:34

success as a team for a good players that

1:16:36

i'll can play and play together to

1:16:38

so i think to on a will explore whatever

1:16:40

i find anything that remains to be same can

1:16:43

i say

1:16:44

about dragic like i like drugs

1:16:47

one of those guys

1:16:48

you know guy everybody counts out and all well

1:16:50

we we don't need an we're going off load hamburger do

1:16:52

this and i get i get watch runners

1:16:54

doing this i guess but as a superbad

1:16:58

what about headed want to play their

1:17:00

i don't out

1:17:01

the red thought about it at that

1:17:03

are on that he was one of those around us to codes

1:17:05

to steer the army

1:17:07

it guys yeah but it's they didn't

1:17:09

train him

1:17:10

yeah

1:17:12

it

1:17:14

this thing but i'll get you a i'll add up on

1:17:16

a blasting then

1:17:19

then i'll be fine i like crazy good place

1:17:21

for him

1:17:24

the

1:17:27

can a real i literally iodides

1:17:30

answer to that of

1:17:32

a subaru eyes are made like you

1:17:34

like you up the fox thing on

1:17:36

ours green room other definitely

1:17:38

thought the lotta harrison barnes

1:17:41

stuff out there to and that's the guy on and on earth

1:17:44

yeah why

1:17:46

you went from like the he's being a keeper

1:17:48

for sacramento really in a season he is considered a

1:17:50

keeper now he's involved and everything

1:17:53

everything he has harrison barnes harrison barnes

1:17:55

and on our some barnes like you

1:17:57

know he was on those gone state teams and

1:17:59

now he's been in sacramento for all this signing

1:18:02

he's a guy that you know he's very

1:18:04

until the

1:18:05

and he's like a very intelligent guy various aware

1:18:07

and and i think he's a guy that understands

1:18:10

or our business you know media business

1:18:12

and like he must be true

1:18:14

right just drowning because

1:18:16

you go there to die you know

1:18:19

i was

1:18:21

three my

1:18:22

cassie

1:18:25

that they'll have

1:18:27

a dream of with the other hand if the and like athletic

1:18:29

a couple couple like twenty games on

1:18:31

the pistons i mean i've never

1:18:33

thought

1:18:34

the moment but yes that he had was young

1:18:37

i bet he confessed that he can play it

1:18:39

consists of minutes and as early as the something

1:18:41

there were decent doesn't matter right now

1:18:44

jackie

1:18:46

pc go all in answer bonus favor

1:18:48

, picks when i said

1:18:52

the salary for like and i was thinking

1:18:54

about than the other day to because at what point to say

1:18:56

guilds is alexander saying i'm like okay

1:18:58

say

1:18:59

yeah i've been patient but now what

1:19:01

is this like you know another all star

1:19:03

snub at the you could argue say guilders

1:19:06

alexander but no one's ever gonna

1:19:08

know if i'm him i'm going to be like

1:19:10

yeah when do we actually you know doing

1:19:13

this

1:19:13

so supposed to be pretty good

1:19:15

start either the

1:19:18

new orleans air for that matter they could

1:19:20

the bag like a know why not yeah

1:19:24

what about body heal that's what i want to know but

1:19:27

he healed i don't hear his name

1:19:28

that i would he has east i've

1:19:30

been

1:19:31

course you can i like you

1:19:34

will

1:19:35

the was seems idea

1:19:38

the deck chairs movie

1:19:41

for both teams and ladder where i

1:19:43

guess my thing with radar and have success

1:19:45

of knicks fans about it were

1:19:48

freedom

1:19:49

number one right when they play the next next really

1:19:51

started since the playoffs last year

1:19:54

and i think for julius

1:19:56

randle as the best part of the other team you'll

1:19:58

probably get a build a solid angeles randall

1:20:00

so there's a question like what would happen

1:20:02

if he was with other really good players with

1:20:05

and would he

1:20:06

fit once again or at the fit

1:20:08

place right so fear

1:20:10

durham

1:20:12

it only gets for halliburton get

1:20:14

a maybe that's it better fed i don't care

1:20:17

see and i are more down idea of fox i think

1:20:19

the most forties and jackie

1:20:22

the air and fox but i want to but

1:20:25

i want year

1:20:26

back the clock to when he was a rookie and we

1:20:28

saw things that made us interested in and

1:20:30

and hopeful and i

1:20:32

haven't seen that

1:20:33

and again in and out

1:20:35

yeah sorry but

1:20:37

don't know you know you the whole sacramento

1:20:40

malays it's it's just

1:20:42

really you know it's been so

1:20:44

long but it was of it was ablaze when

1:20:46

you are covered best while the like i

1:20:49

said it's busy at all long as

1:20:51

heavy as the all the the only sign their ever

1:20:53

the shackles calling him the queen's you know

1:20:56

yourself it's just

1:20:58

it's it's

1:20:59

place for a lot of reasons

1:21:01

or outlets

1:21:03

celtics by

1:21:04

there's can say

1:21:08

the way things i'm hearing it

1:21:10

seems more like sellers why

1:21:14

not be a buyer considering the state of

1:21:16

these the conference will be my question

1:21:19

reanimate sellers a give you

1:21:21

an answer chance because they're another team that was

1:21:23

going on have that luxury tax they really

1:21:25

do because they're looking at the roster and the saints

1:21:28

okay yeah that the east is wide open but we're

1:21:30

really we don't enlist

1:21:33

did you know this line of was for for a brown

1:21:36

said i'm marcus

1:21:38

forgetting the city

1:21:39

what am i here for he would have an eight man rotation

1:21:42

not it's wet with that and everybody else

1:21:44

is out with that starting lineup is only been

1:21:46

together like sixteen games and their than the

1:21:48

plus minus numbers with that lineup of is it's

1:21:51

i kind of unbelievable and marcus march

1:21:53

number since he came back from colbert in the injuries

1:21:55

are just off the charts so easily

1:21:57

plan to explain his way to stay in ice

1:22:00

the i've heard about the celtic says you're not going to

1:22:02

anything big they you know they're gonna hang

1:22:04

on to tatum and and brown and

1:22:07

then as you thus or speculated

1:22:09

i guess we should say bill at what point

1:22:11

to sail

1:22:13

i don't know do i

1:22:15

if i'm never gonna be so

1:22:18

all he's done our team

1:22:20

jayson tatum gets all the love i think

1:22:22

i'm better than that you know there was

1:22:24

a report i think by sdi both that the former

1:22:26

held right or this week that said you

1:22:28

know there's some discomfort or a

1:22:30

little you know uncertainty

1:22:33

jaylen brown is thinking so what

1:22:35

does that do for you the your brad stevens

1:22:37

i don't you do a thing now do you deal shrewder

1:22:40

because

1:22:41

the recently

1:22:42

and some something really

1:22:44

deep contending team will add him as insurance

1:22:47

not walk year somebody or whatever to box

1:22:49

yeah to bombardment am i'm here in milwaukee

1:22:52

and out in so you've made you move him

1:22:54

on the one thing i've heard that i is

1:22:57

a possibility movie grant williams i think grant

1:22:59

wishes had a really good year any sports

1:23:01

is to show before it is too short

1:23:04

but you don't

1:23:06

three three you so

1:23:09

you to

1:23:10

trade grant williams i'd

1:23:13

the

1:23:14

he finally figure three

1:23:16

that accused me of i'm saying this but he's an actual now

1:23:19

that i know you don't like of you and your dad i

1:23:21

know that no idea how man i i've mccallum

1:23:23

right said i spent i just the

1:23:25

my dad he does was in a trade shrewder he

1:23:28

likes

1:23:29

cause he

1:23:31

the east is wide open and he's a lunatic

1:23:33

of my favorite i found

1:23:36

a productive for them counterproductive and my to

1:23:38

me as rather than shooter off the bench

1:23:40

as like just twenty minutes a game

1:23:42

vs roll the dice been pritchard adam

1:23:45

is dice think it's just as

1:23:47

that they trade lag for to okay

1:23:49

see you don't get protected

1:23:52

two thousand and forty one sec grab take

1:23:54

rebate basically giving him away to

1:23:56

get under the tax they're getting into the tax

1:23:59

regardless matters

1:23:59

are they that's what they wanna do yeah

1:24:02

but then they get could you get an actual

1:24:04

draft pick from somebody from shooters i can come

1:24:06

from walking watched as average draft picks

1:24:08

phoenix az

1:24:10

yeah

1:24:12

i don't think you get address

1:24:14

these he's he can walk you

1:24:16

know i don't

1:24:19

is this why smart

1:24:22

could make more sense if you

1:24:24

get a good the market sort of

1:24:26

her the timberwolves really really on a like

1:24:28

embark near a love them and

1:24:30

mean that that kind of indicates evaluate they want have

1:24:32

been sentenced for a long time if they're not

1:24:34

getting same as me they want they're smart

1:24:36

to be their defensive oriented player but i

1:24:39

don't you get a good i'm are bad for marcus smart

1:24:41

the you're not gonna get for some of these other guys to get another

1:24:43

tax i did you wait

1:24:46

i did you wait till the summer do that cats

1:24:48

i agree this i've

1:24:52

i've been really last couple weeks

1:24:54

i think you figured it out right as

1:24:56

he figured it

1:24:57

there continues or not but i actually think

1:25:00

i think he took allow the celtics

1:25:02

need a real point guard dialogue

1:25:04

that three weeks i

1:25:06

think he take a person

1:25:08

much

1:25:11

the shot selection spend much better and

1:25:13

i think i think he's been really good

1:25:16

though when am i

1:25:17

the nervousness i'd be nervous to trade

1:25:19

him shredders the one that makes most

1:25:22

sense i could also

1:25:24

op one of these contracts and

1:25:27

doing it that way

1:25:28

the is gonna be the big

1:25:30

kind of wild card

1:25:32

you know

1:25:35

next

1:25:36

there's because they're so far under the salary

1:25:38

for right they can basically black hair

1:25:41

will get younger the luxury tax like send

1:25:43

your guy here so they were about

1:25:45

to pick up and route twenty thirty eight seconds

1:25:48

yonder jordan of the net sense

1:25:53

no he's a is i read

1:25:55

ah the lakers had some

1:25:57

insights yeah availability got i still

1:25:59

the internet yeah but if they're gonna some

1:26:02

some try to move him that will be there move right so

1:26:04

take some probably to

1:26:07

stare they have the side on their store

1:26:09

that like open twenty four seven five

1:26:12

minute later the great what

1:26:14

can the lakers do they can't do anything right

1:26:17

warrant tucker

1:26:18

read trade westbrook

1:26:20

twenty twenty seven first horton talker

1:26:23

for wall and eric gordon stuff that still

1:26:25

eat i do best of my games you crazy here

1:26:27

you have a shot , that

1:26:29

book i've read that book three times already susan

1:26:32

weight weight used to do that now

1:26:37

pereira gordon why not

1:26:40

pull that off have been air gordon i

1:26:43

went to game jack at iso cassie this

1:26:45

but i went to the clipper game the other night and

1:26:47

a result

1:26:48

or opened and i think any and be a part of

1:26:50

ever been to a game and they they were like eleven

1:26:53

feet off the big three last that against

1:26:55

next but fry say so clearly

1:26:57

need anybody who can with

1:27:00

the spacing but figured you thing for the lakers

1:27:03

is davis looks

1:27:05

and so the look like crap

1:27:08

to start the season but the guy we've seen

1:27:10

this week with like anthony davis again so

1:27:12

that an open little

1:27:15

bit for them now but

1:27:17

well i just i

1:27:20

just

1:27:20

you d more than anthony davis at all

1:27:23

le bron looks i mean unbelievable

1:27:25

comeback out that bad knee but i don't

1:27:27

think that's the last word bad knee he only

1:27:29

took a day and a half or to date two games offer

1:27:31

when average of some

1:27:35

how do they get every

1:27:37

what team

1:27:39

is jackie what team do you like the most of the had to pick

1:27:41

one simone the tarot reader is midas

1:27:43

phoenix

1:27:44

the season two bucks a plague the

1:27:46

bucks yunus is very quietly once again

1:27:49

averaging twenty plus points a game for like

1:27:51

how many games that are own else seventeen games are

1:27:54

over at ever and they get

1:27:56

they get everything they need i'll take the bucks there's

1:27:58

take question for you if you had

1:27:59

they could see my daughter when the finals who is it the

1:28:02

phoenix

1:28:04

oh

1:28:06

complete

1:28:07

the changes needed they , play

1:28:09

any style if they can they can dictate

1:28:12

styles and you need to adapt

1:28:14

to them arm and i also have some

1:28:16

guys who could be the best player on the court or

1:28:18

anything or my and chris paul devin booker

1:28:23

there's a little eighties lakers

1:28:25

celtics kind of our

1:28:27

down

1:28:29

it all yeah

1:28:32

now there are ten what happened oh they went

1:28:34

on like a twenty eight two four run like they have

1:28:36

that switch like the

1:28:38

old school kick ass we saw with the to that

1:28:40

seventy words and that's and there's good as them but

1:28:43

they do have

1:28:44

mode

1:28:46

the kind of messing around

1:28:48

they added like uma thurman

1:28:49

i'd be thrilled if they want

1:28:51

everything about them is what's good about

1:28:53

the and be a you know the way they got their

1:28:55

their it's home grown apart they

1:28:57

take everybody thought was done

1:28:59

i am and that's a great and eight and and can't believe

1:29:02

they didn't pay him but that the allow come back

1:29:04

to bite them and that will be okay to fight

1:29:06

yeah they're easy to roof for a mighty ways is one

1:29:08

of the he was always one of the most underrated

1:29:10

coaches around never got his do i think

1:29:12

he has the last couple years and i'm i'm glad for

1:29:15

selling i'd be or i'll be all right with that but i just

1:29:17

i just watched the bucks they

1:29:20

you know after the always disappointed so just change

1:29:22

the way they yeah

1:29:23

the regular season and they just

1:29:26

watch their

1:29:26

rest and they try different things they don't give

1:29:29

you everything they have a whole bunch of stuff you haven't

1:29:31

seen yet i guarantee it and they have younis

1:29:33

who says otherwise

1:29:36

when it's funny know and talking about him friend the peak

1:29:38

as you know we get so bee

1:29:41

venom amazing joke it is right there at

1:29:43

all times but yeah

1:29:46

why and why are we not talk about yannis

1:29:49

yahoo

1:29:50

daves everybody grab

1:29:52

that

1:29:53

his and and we talk about that guy this it

1:29:55

didn't it so funny fifty cycle

1:29:57

starts at my game fifteen now and than

1:29:59

ever

1:29:59

it gets their say they are either

1:30:02

, picked sons bugs before the season i have

1:30:04

not seen anything that makes

1:30:07

that picture now philly a

1:30:10

philly

1:30:14

be oh and they were able to keep curry and everybody

1:30:16

else than that would make me possibly

1:30:19

switch

1:30:20

because

1:30:22

it beats by that by be enough other

1:30:24

the bucks i that's like kind of

1:30:26

like am i really want to see what they do on

1:30:28

thursday to like kinda they

1:30:31

are at ages can wait up to get that person

1:30:34

but the by up you said she

1:30:36

saw the mellow and person she went to give her of you

1:30:39

know i just was

1:30:40

once very briefly his rookie year

1:30:43

and some

1:30:44

so

1:30:47

i didn't realize he so light and i

1:30:49

kept thinking wait till i mean nineteen

1:30:51

had to go back and check i thought he was older and

1:30:53

we back and check nineteen and

1:30:56

another

1:30:56

not by the way lamellar up again

1:30:59

that and am i just

1:31:01

wonder like

1:31:02

what like muscle

1:31:05

will i don't think so you know

1:31:08

any sir simpli better

1:31:10

diaz watch him a lot on defense and

1:31:12

that's probably why the coaches did vote and you know they voted

1:31:14

ramos reason and that tells you everything you need to know

1:31:16

right so it's kind of like member the year before

1:31:18

that and portray on on without my

1:31:20

think about that is you know everybody would love

1:31:23

to see the melbourne and our style games at all

1:31:25

stuck in id love to see him on other player

1:31:27

he be passed and everybody so quick as

1:31:29

you study was

1:31:31

i wonder

1:31:32

the future as you know that

1:31:34

was in this like fifteen

1:31:36

years ago that they they have a commissioners

1:31:38

pack for each conference just

1:31:40

to make the game more fun without up

1:31:43

in the mellowed back as we just lamellar

1:31:45

she's been the all star game and says canada u

1:31:47

ten percent more find there's certain guys like

1:31:49

that and at i'm somebody

1:31:53

and aback it out

1:31:54

the injury or something he would be the guy

1:31:57

i'll get sued

1:31:58

it would be for the other com

1:31:59

it should be your fun pick fc well

1:32:02

chemical

1:32:03

quick question is he in the rising stars bad

1:32:05

little tournament they're doing is a

1:32:08

good

1:32:08

that looks or not i could be cool i'm

1:32:10

happy he's about say no i look at i was over

1:32:13

but it's kind of like i don't know

1:32:16

the play have jv have varsity i'm like yeah

1:32:19

well i gotta say athena of

1:32:21

our the thing with yacht as of the

1:32:23

i'll be dead

1:32:25

really cool a anthony edwards is the one of the west

1:32:27

right anthony edwards

1:32:29

in theaters

1:32:30

i were to me

1:32:35

i'm in in general having

1:32:38

some of the best interviews have any under twenty

1:32:40

two guys that we had is

1:32:43

really like on and i dare say we

1:32:45

can hear you this match are weak your

1:32:47

comment on here really began to trade

1:32:50

deadline stuff jackie

1:32:53

have were going to be announcing something soon

1:32:55

where your secret project is ben so

1:32:58

i'm excited for that

1:32:59

i do

1:33:01

yeah machete for the world

1:33:03

be the see both to be thanks for coming to our

1:33:05

guys like challenge us

1:33:08

or that zip to the podcast bags

1:33:10

to talk great for producing as always thanks to

1:33:12

dump bertie for the great video stuff and steve's

1:33:14

really for helping out as well as

1:33:18

the back on this feed on tuesday with

1:33:21

big superbowl mega preview

1:33:23

and then i'm marie watch

1:33:25

muslin and i say to the next us that

1:33:28

his schedule i'll see you here

1:33:30

on tuesday

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