Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:00
hey my name's ben simmons not
0:02
one that quit on the seventy sixers but
0:04
the one is gonna be living in his parents' basement
0:06
until he's forty we'll tell you about
0:08
mama fuku noodles they change for life
0:10
have you ever been hungry in the middle of the
0:12
night but only it's two am and you rafol
0:15
pockets have you ever been home at
0:17
seven pm in iraq known something for you
0:19
then you're on your own have you ever
0:21
in great rahman said sounds good
0:23
but man i wish someone would make a great
0:25
noodles what mama for good news is the
0:27
ramen for you i'm addicted them
0:29
just like the other ben simmons is addicted the missing
0:32
free throws passing of dunks and quitting
0:34
on his team i'm also gonna lose
0:36
from my friend david chang wherever you buy
0:38
your life changing room
0:40
that that has brought the by dot the sky miles
0:42
and they have to scammers the sky miles program
0:45
is your runway to more mouths more rewards more
0:47
adventures
0:48
locally or abroad when
0:50
shopping adults and skymiles partners
0:53
the business early
0:55
then reward yourself at thirty miles into trips
0:57
vacation packages seat upgrades
0:59
more free to join miles
1:02
don't expire go for the skymiles at delta dot com slash join now
1:08
program rules apply this
1:10
episode the bill simmons podcast is brought to buy your been
1:12
be for
1:14
around the world are hosting an air b n b a many them do
1:16
it whether traveling to earn extra income and you
1:19
wanna know how are these has welcomed
1:21
i'm a full confidence here's our air
1:23
cover for us if a rose
1:26
or first
1:27
the image protection free air
1:29
bnb learn more and try for air-b-n-b-dot-com air cover
1:34
hosts were also brought you by the
1:36
ringer a podcast network
1:38
we have we have rewatch both going up on monday
1:40
night it is after family february
1:42
and the rewatch was we did ordinary people asked
1:44
week we have four more figured this is the perfect
1:47
time to do it nfl mba
1:49
curators we don't need to run like one
1:51
of the author
1:51
most of the re watchable this month
1:54
so
1:55
the february is upon us
1:57
and we have on monday that region
1:59
merit which are is
2:02
going to be me and was morris and was man
2:04
that dot
2:05
could find this is that one of the one of the streamers
2:08
i think it's on stars for free
2:10
check it out ah us
2:13
about the by the indoor sports book on tuesday
2:16
because is gonna pop gonna all
2:18
of our football regulars were doing it on tuesday
2:21
that were doing the big superbike as
2:23
the other props everything it's all happening
2:25
on tuesday because thursday's
2:28
going to be the trade
2:30
deadline so the
2:32
idea that died on thursday tuesday
2:35
will be the football and on that tuesday pod
2:37
lots of props lots of fun sandals
2:39
stuff same game parlay everything
2:41
everything you'd
2:43
blue actually with
2:44
that but
2:45
if you go
2:47
jackie mic bolland kevin
2:49
o'connor
2:50
and
3:10
i
3:17
will have this is for thirty seconds
3:20
, or seven hundred
3:23
hundred was the city of trades as on his thursday
3:25
we had a trace today there's a whole
3:28
weekend of pardon to
3:30
any
3:31
casey and i have done a green room on friday
3:34
to sat there and ideas it seems
3:36
like
3:37
the have stagnated at least a little bit i
3:39
don't believe it i think this is weird out
3:41
at look at mouse game with that
3:44
with silly in brooklyn tried to get to where they want
3:46
to go in the day or what have you heard jackie what are
3:48
you here and foot whispers a here in their knees
3:50
coast well you know we all thought
3:52
in the off season then all senate shifted
3:55
i feel like in the
3:56
eight hours
3:58
ramping up again
3:59
don't really know why that is
4:02
maybe simmons
4:04
is like yeah i'll go there i don't know
4:07
you know but something you know ben simmons
4:10
everyone's like will in a train but he
4:12
can he is still hasn't played
4:14
is losing all the money and it's
4:17
the way it would face the three of us of
4:19
would i so
4:23
but you know nasty said a few minutes
4:25
ago i think
4:26
no
4:27
james harden you know he wants to be here
4:29
he wants to grow with as i'm not sure i believe
4:32
that but i
4:34
love save their she's a wonderful today i'm
4:37
not is about in is believe it i think this
4:39
is last season
4:41
you know it it's probably goes
4:43
it is right right yes yeah
4:45
can see the
4:48
them and thing actually weirdly
4:50
well as you like simmons is somehow
4:52
gain value over the last
4:55
couple weeks by dot playing
4:57
and by us getting further and further away
4:59
from his disastrous at rana plaza
5:01
we're like brett bradley beal who
5:03
talk by the second that
5:06
a realistic trade
5:08
the been realistic
5:09
this or strategy of i
5:12
, like any the trades are being offered
5:14
which is way the lead changes
5:16
situations
5:18
right now i'm gonna be waiting here when
5:20
things change that it actually works or
5:22
am i crazy i mean who hasn't
5:24
worked yeah until the deal athens but i've been saying
5:26
for months he's playing this right why would you settle
5:29
when you have a twenty five year old two time all
5:31
and the all player and simmons i mean
5:33
knock him for from some of
5:35
his flaws that he has suits with the wrong hands
5:37
and everything else but by he's a really
5:39
good basketball players years
5:42
old under contract why would
5:44
you trade him for scraps when you
5:46
can at least wait and play this
5:48
out and see if by thursday james
5:50
harden walks into the nets front offices my
5:52
yeah i want our are probably leaving this off
5:54
season that's that to me as like
5:56
what daryl morey has been waiting for
5:59
is a player that's what
5:59
the waiting for and what about was lowered
6:02
our heart in erbil or somebody else
6:04
arm he was hoping that come
6:06
up and
6:07
i'm he will
6:08
i think or jackie said with steve nash
6:10
auto believe what , said
6:13
i'm i believe like this
6:15
is like right out of stays where this stays where
6:18
negotiating with anything that's going to be dropping
6:20
from psalms i mean by doc rivers
6:22
brought up how you know sounds
6:24
selfish odds are not quite as the base
6:26
there so i can't believe dot actually
6:28
said that but like i mean that also
6:31
as part of it to items part of the problems
6:33
with those who they are we don't care about you know that
6:35
stuff that's out there just like steve nash gonna
6:38
do what he's doing and what's what's going to be interesting
6:40
and what what is like the big story that drops
6:42
tuesday
6:43
the world your shop the
6:46
discuss the future bad that's the new story
6:48
i'm looking for so here's what i heard
6:51
this is from the same source
6:53
that has given me some
6:55
the belief that
6:58
the to it but curry
6:59
the deal and don't
7:02
care but , had for them
7:05
brooklyn is looking at this year
7:08
because they have duran they have assume
7:10
is can be healthy pretty soon and the open
7:12
and they want a chance
7:14
and
7:15
they betrayed that makes sense for us is simmons
7:17
inquiry for hard at this is what i heard
7:21
make sense for a lot of reasons though
7:24
he i watch filleted our i watch their whole
7:26
game i like the team they have
7:28
enough
7:29
if i'm adding some
7:31
adding sense
7:32
that would i built over the last you
7:34
know last couple months or maxi
7:37
curry ah mbd
7:39
a hair's has been fine but what they
7:41
really need is like i think bradley
7:43
beal jackie makes so much more sense
7:45
from them because he just gets the court matt smith
7:48
minutes and some and
7:50
they keep everything else that they have so
7:52
about they're making it bradley be
7:55
for simmons and packs that's the
7:57
during
7:58
going by what will you think
7:59
i'm just astonished
8:02
that james harden i
8:04
just the darryl and james harden thing
8:06
i lived
8:07
they're did a cover piece for yes be at the pn
8:10
the bags
8:11
there and here the whole thing
8:13
but that was three four years
8:15
ago if you you just mentioned
8:18
three names i put dame
8:20
bradley beal to a james
8:22
harden a distant third
8:24
there's to build my future look
8:27
at
8:27
what we're hearing about dame is that his
8:30
stomach pretty apt up ran
8:33
i don't know if we see him the share and i
8:35
haven't seen anybody come out of chris
8:38
the other dame stuff right so yeah took
8:40
her st comes out and says teams that
8:42
play in this year
8:44
i'm an assume we might seem again but then
8:47
the street is that you know
8:48
the abdomen served as in ,
8:50
bad any might a comeback i
8:52
understood
8:53
i guess if i'm carol mori
8:55
or the person that has been some
8:57
and i'm trading him away i'm
8:59
not looking at just this year and i get
9:01
i i i get the logic because so
9:04
well as play that we all knew
9:06
he could do it was just a question we ever
9:08
the able still stay healthy long enough to do
9:10
it and now he so healthy
9:12
that they had to sit him against the memphis
9:15
grizzlies what he
9:17
played too many caves in a row healthy which
9:19
you don't to think about that for a minutes
9:21
so the window
9:23
been this year always try to win right
9:25
away and edu and i learned that from
9:27
watching that that wonderful collection
9:29
of so
9:30
that we're gonna win multiple championships everyone's
9:33
like will give them time to sell him no no no no
9:35
winner we now because the
9:37
the world could collapse a pandemic cook it happens
9:39
and car european might not his
9:41
game it didn't happen
9:44
so i'm all about winning now but
9:46
here's the but
9:48
if on the sixers i want something
9:50
that's gonna help me next year and the
9:52
year after to natural started
9:55
at fifty million a year that
9:57
next season with more as look at the way james
9:59
james
9:59
the body of
10:01
set on the body i'm an
10:03
i'm not trying to body shaming when but she's
10:05
his body is different he he plays
10:07
differently he's not getting get a minor belly
10:10
jackie hear what are your belly
10:13
okay but i never saw that on yeah oh man thank
10:15
you
10:15
so i just
10:19
man i just when i would take badly
10:21
i would take dame willard even
10:23
with the bad them again i'd take my chances
10:26
for next year to have this is what
10:28
is it hard enough was gone through all his numbers
10:30
today at then a lot of prep for this purpose as
10:33
hearted that nine hundred and twenty
10:35
one games hundred thirty seven
10:37
playoff games thirty six
10:39
k minutes combined which fire
10:42
the standards as i got that's nothing more brought
10:44
one runs over sixty but by normal star
10:47
standards this is yours
10:49
started to come off the least little bit right of
10:52
think that totally their of the
10:53
that's already there any the
10:56
sixteen to twenty one he was thirty
10:58
one nine heard this is
11:00
for five years and forty
11:02
four said shooting all as of this year he's
11:05
shooting forty one percent the freezer down
11:07
that's the thirty three
11:08
peter attempt down the eight hi
11:11
this is somebody that if he does that the
11:13
bar defensively
11:15
the liability and you
11:17
know he's able to see
11:20
the fact that he's so talented
11:23
pick your spots and still get his dad's
11:25
but you know it's been a pretty unhappy
11:27
team to watch i just when i
11:29
look at the basketball reference page and the points
11:31
per game and free throw attempts and stuff like
11:33
that is going down and the guys who the mid thirties
11:36
can't say thirties just i just get nervous especially
11:39
for somebody who's gonna expect a giant
11:41
extension the summer of he goes to philly
11:43
and i dare of
11:45
really confident that ah he
11:47
believes in this guy as human being
11:49
and as
11:52
work ethic peace like you you have to
11:54
be all and because it's kind of thing they get back
11:57
what i mean i think i think three years
11:59
that contracts and hard it is thirty five
12:02
thirty six years old i would have legitimate
12:04
concern about at that point what
12:07
does he look like or what is a james harden
12:09
at that point where maybe he's already won a championship
12:11
that's the point like if the you eat the first
12:13
year in the second year in the third year
12:16
with him where you have to l a bead still
12:18
you hope healthy and the prime of his career
12:21
where this team is already really really really
12:23
good with what they have around and bead
12:25
adding it harder to that regardless
12:27
of his physical condition regardless
12:30
of the factors numbers are down the
12:32
season on i mean i'm nervous
12:34
about it down the line but it
12:37
makes the sixers better automatically makes them
12:39
better if the a price on integrating i
12:43
, it like it's different with cap would have set cari
12:45
the treaty so important for their off and summer
12:47
and i be a little bit surprised of silly ended up giving
12:49
up seth curry but i'm like any
12:51
bill i have heard i have heard brooklyn
12:54
wants shooting at the wing position i mean that's
12:56
out there a lot right now they're looking
12:58
for shooting shooting that mean joe
13:00
harris has and come back and they node something
13:02
that hasn't been fully announced yet i'm
13:04
considering the issues he said with his rebeck
13:06
rehab but ultimately here
13:09
for philadelphia ultimately here hard and is the clear
13:11
the clear number one of the targets
13:13
that are even remotely realistic right
13:15
now lizard injured right now below
13:18
like total cel of what he's been the last
13:20
two seasons i mean i really loved bradley
13:22
beal your i don't want bradley beal
13:24
to his i mean i target heart of the fence
13:27
it's the piss poor for beal to is
13:29
not good on that end and baby is better playing
13:31
with jolla be by okay
13:33
be offensive juggernaut
13:35
would we could be with a b i target me excited
13:38
yeah but i think you put feel somewhere
13:40
else with everything that's gone i'm in
13:42
a started off so fast i the gates and gates
13:44
all it's all like what it's always been
13:47
to put him in a new environment with a guy like him
13:49
be that's be that's be like you the
13:52
man i just want to win like this is just this
13:54
is my year just to my men helped me when
13:56
i just i've seen it a thousand
13:58
times player
13:59
the you think are like the what the heck and
14:02
then they get
14:03
new coach a new gm new players the
14:06
rejuvenate on almost done
14:08
yeah now you have shown he
14:11
can or of yeah yeah
14:12
today china in my
14:14
head thinking which guy made more sense right
14:17
especially crunch time where they had
14:19
parade bag sad there the
14:21
in crowd
14:22
the do not just
14:25
there by india
14:26
the airplane
14:28
so you think okay if
14:30
let's take feel i ,
14:33
feel goes in and yang spot but he's
14:35
playing really well like he hit here the dagger
14:38
three days should forty percent from three cats
14:40
and size while
14:42
he gets the max spots maxis
14:44
them
14:45
you know he's been great you know of
14:47
so he's easy
14:49
these bad pardon
14:51
curry has been the deal yes has been
14:54
the my dollars and stuff but
14:57
i i gotta say if i was a sixers fan
14:59
i'd be taught tormented
15:01
by the this is that your i
15:03
can see it right it's so seductive actually
15:06
moves ah james harden and
15:09
be done that's ten guys
15:12
i don't know if know if started and jackie
15:14
what do we hard it
15:16
is unhappy within a year and now they're say
15:18
no
15:19
the but will come on
15:21
we this hobby i spoke stage
15:23
but you know and i'll say i'm going to stick up
15:25
for hard now joke and she was just
15:27
to confuse our listeners so
15:31
the great thing about harden when this all happened
15:33
last year he went that i did
15:35
you an ira like of i don't know as is
15:37
going to work for he was the adult in the
15:39
room he just yes everybody
15:41
said it all the coaches the players i was on the
15:43
road with them for when
15:46
all the wheels fell off to carry got hurt and everything
15:48
but everybody was tell me the same thing you
15:50
know james harden one holding
15:53
people accountable he's the one that pony
15:55
the decides he doesn't care about scoring
15:58
nevertheless year he's women
16:00
so i give james
16:02
pardon props for that and then now
16:04
this year he comes in you know
16:06
durant's been hurt that's nobody's fault that app and
16:09
it carries get this weird situation where you thou
16:12
completely insane the out and so
16:14
it's all falling on james harden again and that wasn't
16:16
the deal you know that wasn't
16:18
the deal because james woods that stupid
16:21
he knows getting older he knows the miles or revving
16:23
up and he also knows of zone reputation
16:25
which is by the time you get to the players he's
16:28
yeah
16:28
right
16:29
the happen in brooklyn to the oven to have these two
16:32
other guys will guess what he didn't have that
16:34
so i'm not sure if i don't
16:36
think he's like i hate this place like
16:39
that at all i just think he's like men at
16:41
this just wasn't what most to be
16:43
right yeah and
16:46
we're using the leverage of the moment to
16:48
for it's like if this is just i
16:50
was doing now beats by in
16:52
the best and is the healthiest that have any start
16:55
either team and
16:58
fido am sure that the strain hand
17:00
and the strain hamstring have to just be felon
17:03
am i mean you really have to advocate for starting
17:05
to have is that strain have an
17:07
stuff up and coming bill has
17:09
his little
17:10
in out through that has him it would divide it's
17:12
a it's like a like a ligaments sprain
17:14
in his wrist there and such as the injuries
17:17
either out it's the defensive effort by those
17:19
guys to assist like horrific and
17:21
he wants harden of for the nets
17:23
and it slide member member when everybody
17:25
criticised part of being were the worst offenders
17:27
and all the n b a that's what it's been like
17:29
this last month when for a while
17:32
he's putting in effort like jackie said like one hundred
17:34
percent right i wells on and that's i was
17:36
surprised how many people were saying
17:38
yeah harden is canada leader he's our he's
17:40
our voice he's a guy sets the tone
17:42
in practice and keeps the young players and line
17:45
for them if they all positive stuff
17:48
that you get from people who don't need
17:50
to give it to you and i
17:52
i think with hard and he's in a place
17:54
now assuming he does go and
17:56
at some point of soccer minutes and express is very
17:58
wants out either the the point like jackie
18:01
said i mean carries when half the games
18:03
recovered or have a sprained mcl and we don't
18:05
know like when he'll actually it
18:07
is naturally concern of he can reenter
18:10
of your heart and your be
18:13
and you're seeing that theme was of cari there
18:15
and i ever if he stays and everything else
18:17
maybe to jump ship he saudis and
18:20
why not do it again i remember
18:22
that can not over play
18:25
how import more years in
18:27
all of this and tad brown
18:29
i don't have you know a sad brown now
18:32
to that matters to james harden
18:34
those guys the tracks
18:36
for him and he eats you talk
18:38
to daryl morey about james harden you it you
18:40
know if you're on the phone but you're wondering
18:43
if there
18:43
years in his eyes like you
18:45
start about kevin garnett he get he gets choked
18:47
up every time it dot and that's how
18:49
much
18:51
feals for james [unk] thou
18:54
how important that is to jail in
18:57
i figured i'd believed in him my
19:00
, well as ticket about chris paul
19:03
you know
19:04
it's one of the most bizarre trades in the history the
19:06
way to as brick trade were chris paul
19:08
seemed like it was caught
19:10
over for him not even as and i'm being the
19:13
star as like an impact guy that his body
19:15
just couldn't hold up history the small
19:18
that better his
19:20
mood a different phase and he was a
19:22
bad salary
19:24
then he went play there's been
19:26
a part of stories about their see changed
19:28
everything about what he was doing
19:31
and now have you watched this year he looks as good
19:33
as he looks in two thousand two thousand and
19:35
it is all based
19:37
the anything the other day spending a milli bought
19:39
a he's fine what lebron did and it was
19:41
all stuff it's all stuff he's
19:43
been talking about really since
19:45
before they made they trade because there were
19:47
stories about that he was doing this before they even
19:49
did the west portrait right right portrait wonder with
19:51
hard and for him to have another
19:54
act where he's another top a
19:56
top notch guy i think it has to be something
19:58
like that
19:59
the
19:59
the old school nineteen eighties
20:02
nineteen
20:03
been a beer were because i
20:05
think it's gonna the air
20:07
yeah but
20:09
these stories the summer
20:11
it's like james harden
20:13
clients' best , of
20:15
his life bought it brought a crowd
20:18
saber first crowd first
20:20
first bed and the and it's like that can assess
20:22
the oh my god those got him and and beat
20:25
but i don't know what drives that guy can
20:27
figure it out i don't think any
20:29
you're dot right
20:30
why the way don't forget with joel and beat
20:33
did to become who he is now same
20:35
kind of stuff he loved shirley temples
20:37
and that wasn't a joke like when three for
20:39
five or six of them at a popular or like they
20:42
were like two hundred and eighty calories at pop or something
20:44
crazy he did the same thing he was
20:46
hi to people you know it when he didn't make the all and
20:48
be a team he was kinda delay with
20:51
his i think they were married if not fiance
20:53
at the time wasted the time having their first
20:55
child and he looks like
20:58
ah i make all and be a and then his first
21:00
child is born and he's like mad
21:03
and you know sometimes it takes a hit
21:05
to your your psa your ego
21:07
if you will and i think some of that contributed
21:10
to
21:10
well
21:12
that ever happened chris palm people forget this
21:14
is he had that year waylaid in
21:16
oklahoma city where they were they
21:18
wanted to protect his body they want to protect
21:20
him they wanted him to mentor say guilds
21:22
this alexander which he did he mentored
21:25
a lot of those guy and
21:27
you know they said look we don't want you to play back to back
21:29
she's like screw that on planes but
21:32
that was it was bit of a humbling year humbling
21:34
think because he was he was bit out of the limelight
21:36
right liberal the spotlights but they the
21:39
and sam presti you do this for me you help my young
21:41
team i'm going to take you when i'm going to make
21:43
you feel like you like you should like
21:45
you are you
21:46
the all star
21:47
if you know appreciate you and
21:50
then i
21:50
you somewhere good
21:53
that that year was really important i think
21:55
for chris paul water know of hard
21:57
and has and in a hurry
21:59
the
21:59
the
22:00
well if i don't what we know is that
22:03
philly concerned benson
22:05
that
22:06
it to james harden even
22:08
if curry has to be in that deal is
22:11
that the typical
22:14
simulation and they're going to be better i
22:16
love the way korean mb play together i
22:19
just say i think they have real chemistry set
22:22
i'm at a big guy i don't think a beads casey
22:25
and beat that like the easiest
22:27
gotta play with but i think korea
22:29
figured out how to play with maxis
22:32
kind , comes and goes when i'm when
22:35
i'm in jersey record great chemistry
22:37
with a bead when he was there in philadelphia
22:39
there read memory make maybe it's like suitors
22:41
there that do well with a bead ah my
22:44
disability and on that he died and then died and
22:46
around it again those elbow
22:48
actions of a bead can do anything off the dribble
22:50
as their overplaying on back to stop the shot
22:52
i mean it it's over
22:54
the
22:56
i was thinking there's ben simmons
22:59
other than him
23:00
if you go to brooklyn see
23:02
i think ben simmons is a perfect sit
23:04
in brooklyn yeah perfect if i'm
23:07
fund the brooklyn nets and i get ben simmons for james
23:09
harden i am throwing am very big
23:11
party because i don't care about this
23:13
i could care less
23:15
simmons has been sitting there all this time
23:18
and you're going look you don't
23:20
want to
23:20
the what awesome
23:22
the guys at really really love to shoot we
23:24
don't care if you shoot at all what we'd like you to
23:26
do is play like defensive
23:29
player the year caliber defense which image
23:31
is done every year since he's come into the league
23:34
and but he never gets i still don't think he gets an apprentice
23:36
where and we want you to take the ball
23:38
and transition and go downhill
23:40
and dare people to study because that's when he's that's
23:42
his best now people will fall the
23:45
federal i favor that's that's your thing i would say
23:47
don't as a cliff we just at least work on
23:49
the free throw shooting from i just think ben
23:51
simmons has been he has been getting
23:54
mental health counseling not from
23:56
the net the people i
23:58
spent a lifetime of ben simmons
24:01
you know before the pen it are
24:03
working on a story
24:05
themselves around them
24:06
i do think
24:07
the has it isn't i in a man i know you
24:09
know that i don't i don't agree
24:12
this past the good luck
24:15
i don't think when you're into contact you should ever do that
24:17
to a team or ,
24:19
but think in the right situation
24:21
like haley said to him like i was always sainted
24:23
guys get a decent yeah most idea day like he's
24:26
with the celtics neat imagine he was on the celtics
24:28
and you didn't have to give up jaylen brown four
24:30
at it would it be we're going to the models serve some
24:32
facility bread hojatieh what he talked about
24:35
we are ah sorry
24:40
take a quick break up minutes advancements were
24:47
it's podcast brought to you by miller lite my
24:49
old buddy everytime summer rolls around
24:52
what are you talking about trade rumors
24:53
the
24:54
training camps where you gonna vacation
24:57
both there you do it
24:59
is also a marriage he beat dive
25:01
bar may be out of
25:02
the fireplace maybe perfect
25:05
moment for grabbing a few called miller lights
25:07
with friends
25:09
the beer lovers and mind because
25:11
laid bare
25:12
it
25:13
water i was edu was sober
25:16
and my buddy house
25:18
and we were in one of hospitality
25:20
chance for the had all these different
25:23
and i remember the look at houses face when
25:26
they
25:27
him that he did not have more light
25:29
and he was crestfallen was they should we just
25:32
go there are and i guess i'll have another
25:34
what is better than , miller lite
25:37
when they don't do you want to get
25:39
it you actually take it personally the best
25:42
part is you just get yourself as though is the best part
25:44
is that six colors and this
25:46
summer you can make it more late you can enjoy
25:48
the cold was with your true miller
25:51
lite dot com forward slash b s and never have
25:53
a moment like house did you can find
25:55
the [unk]
25:56
near you or
25:57
pick up some more they pretty much anywhere they
25:59
beer because it's
26:02
maritime celebrate responsibly bill brewing
26:04
company more wisconsin
26:06
the calories and three point two carbs
26:08
per twelve ounces this episode
26:10
the bill simmons pack as is brought to bear old
26:13
friend zip recruiter i can't wait
26:15
to travel the have an incredible trip
26:18
you remember all the people that me
26:20
the occasion truly , it's
26:22
like when i go back to boston go
26:24
back to some my favorite restaurants
26:26
some my old
26:29
the old bartenders gone
26:31
, the the back bay walk
26:33
on newbury boylston it's it's
26:35
right
26:37
you know makes it special outstanding people like
26:39
that
26:39
though for a successful
26:42
business and if you're hiring you're can find town for
26:44
rose
26:45
at the pier reach
26:48
the slash be as zip recruiter suite
26:51
of tools that make it easier to filter review
26:54
and rate your candidates for
26:56
our to five employers who post on scepter to get
26:58
aquatic and they with they first day travel
27:00
to this easy to remember site separate dot com
27:02
slash be slash that's where you can try
27:05
again zip or dot com
27:07
and remember jupiter
27:10
the smartest way tire
27:14
i couple left over are silly things
27:16
so casey we talked about this would on friday
27:19
or we positive hard in an m b it
27:21
makes sense together even though like of course
27:23
if you can get to have the best and have twelve
27:26
to fifteen guys in the league you want
27:28
them on you same team but stylistically
27:30
one hundred
27:33
yeah
27:34
i want it badly i think harden is
27:36
never played with a big like and been and to be to have
27:38
never played with anybody who can create
27:40
in the pick and roll half as good as
27:42
james harden can i be with his shooting ability
27:45
get to the basket drop i
27:47
just get i get
27:49
idea
27:50
being paired with him and ,
27:52
i go to buy him for sure but
27:55
but all in jackie and
27:58
that's jackie of
27:59
though year you go on that i had a different question
28:02
for a bugle good i'd rather answer a different
28:04
question okay i'm
28:06
, professor of
28:08
that say there's there's that tampering
28:13
it you to anyone
28:14
we were are mature
28:16
adults we now have the league works we
28:19
know that there's
28:20
they've gone by the way for that the free
28:23
assay yeah that investigation go and we
28:25
we know how the league words we know that there's
28:27
mutual friends and connections and
28:31
the huda here
28:34
that's not doesn't come outta nowhere if
28:37
if you're philly and there's some smoke
28:40
that bill as pretend and
28:43
and
28:43
for b o have a hard and potentially
28:46
but , already went down the road with so i can
28:48
you even back off at display once once
28:51
you open whatever pandora's box got
28:53
open d just have to see it all the way through
28:57
daryl morey we're talking about here yeah
29:00
daryl morey there is best for his
29:02
team and if he hurt you feel
29:04
my now you know that sure
29:07
that who is matter a
29:09
daryl morey than the dad's and just say
29:12
there is though is that thing about our about
29:14
at our was banned from the nets sixers game which
29:16
was game whole thing
29:17
the thing that i'd say odd cents absolute
29:19
nonsense hub and then you
29:21
have who knows how hard and of
29:24
a sudden became seduced by the the a plain silly
29:26
again is it possible the debts
29:28
you
29:31
rating you here we were yeah we'll
29:33
trade and but you got to give a simmons curry and
29:35
give us three first
29:38
the a given hundred twenty five cents and our some
29:40
crazy thank world and those are just are
29:43
yeah and then they'll say okay yeah fine
29:45
and then hard most say hey i wanted to go
29:47
there so screw you i'm walking on in the summer
29:49
movie was actually fly
29:52
brooklyn is the be careful here
29:54
okay be careful that
29:57
care so you get to choose brooklyn is either
29:59
is
29:59
expense image team are the best ben simmons
30:02
team or , i'm
30:04
like rich paul on club sports i
30:06
like it's top of my lists top
30:09
of my lists of every team in the team b a for
30:11
bin salman popular yeah salman
30:13
popular like generally sooner rather have him
30:15
in the in the limelight an array and like
30:17
a playoff team that's in the news twelve
30:20
months a year over like just going to like indiana
30:22
and just i'm out of the limelight i'm just rebuilding
30:24
my career i mean he he's in the limelight
30:27
but he's you know underneath the shadow of kyrie
30:29
irving and kevin durant the those are the guys
30:31
that are going to get the majority of the credit in the blame
30:34
i'm but he's still in a big market and he is
30:36
an ideal basketball situation like ben
30:38
simmons setting screens for kyrie irving a
30:41
ben simmons creating mismatches with kevin
30:43
durant a ability the ability
30:45
to alleviate the pressure on those
30:47
guys and transition the defensive
30:49
anchor that he could be on that team like they switch
30:51
as screens in the top five rate in the n b a
30:54
and like this is a switching defense ben simmons
30:56
[unk] switching defensive player is a perfect
30:58
fit on defense it's a perfect fit on
31:00
offense for him specifically i mean
31:03
that issue with bin salman's as long been as
31:05
fit it's always been a that's
31:07
work but issue because of
31:09
his limitations it's not it's not a concern
31:12
in brooklyn
31:13
basketball dream for him and
31:15
clubs like they should be
31:17
the am leaking to every reporter that
31:19
ha
31:20
the
31:21
it is to actually have
31:22
the yes that it's a great for a jackass
31:25
a guy group can see i actually think this is
31:27
as about
31:28
situation even though there's pressure
31:30
they're going to be a big
31:32
you're not a perfect
31:34
fit for him yeah because the pressure isn't going
31:36
to be for him to shoot because
31:39
no one going to be a look into him to do that now the
31:41
only thing i would say that i do
31:43
see as
31:44
the times is
31:47
that as a point guard i think you'd be an excellent
31:49
point
31:51
so the only
31:52
see that might be problematic
31:55
is that carrier of he needs the ball in his hands
31:57
and simmons doesn't get his
32:00
the on the ball as much as you would like to
32:03
again hill that's
32:05
really the train listen to
32:08
the that may be the only
32:09
i would give , you but i'm kevin
32:11
here i mean i found the nets
32:13
i the nets it better the what i have now
32:16
now here's the caveat
32:18
moon , the caveat we don't
32:20
know where ben simmons his head is
32:22
that we really don't because none of
32:24
us have talked to him oh
32:27
how serious is mental
32:29
or were i
32:31
think
32:32
kind of mental health issues you know and
32:35
i think some it for him as goes all the way back
32:38
that story on him i was just astonished to listen
32:40
as high school coach say your weekly
32:43
like are just get in the gym and except
32:46
thirty two percent the
32:48
three
32:49
it over with and just be like
32:51
every by you know take five
32:53
a game and make one
32:55
or two of them you know whether deaths and so
32:58
if , the kind of mental gymnastics
33:00
we're talking about that's one thing but as you guys
33:03
know mental health coverage a long
33:05
long range of things and so i don't
33:07
know know exactly
33:10
what ben simmons is is wrangling
33:12
with year or you know
33:15
you know
33:16
the that remote a story to be
33:18
which had to add some nuggets in there
33:21
that he was bad than a bead buy
33:23
them for the last playoff series because he
33:25
didn't blame and beat for that surround ourselves
33:28
and our sakes for as sets it
33:30
if is but mp was like dominant that
33:33
throughout uttered by bailey reason they lost
33:35
was ready to put it would it be
33:37
better for as cel mai
33:39
you don't my theory on that sewage i
33:41
think if everybody had just lab and let
33:44
ben the they would have been
33:46
fine all the outside
33:48
voices on in both camps the
33:50
families the big agents
33:53
so often create the friction where if
33:55
you just left my own fate
33:57
baby say i really think and
34:00
your well work friends
34:03
but they both wanted to win and they were gonna make it work
34:05
it's everybody else that got involved that made
34:08
that thing the created so much static for
34:10
them now miss the old days when
34:13
mchale didn't get along but really they were
34:15
the only two that knew about it and it was just are passive
34:17
aggressive zap ,
34:19
but you didn't have twenty other people
34:22
people from it's sad as it the ben simmons
34:24
like the wide to the family
34:26
which has which pretty rocky
34:28
as far as and be a family goes pretty there's
34:30
been a lot of drama that side and then side
34:33
and ah them of i'm sure that
34:35
as in health care say anything to add on that for
34:37
him it's that their son sammy
34:39
i think the only thing i'd out at that is
34:41
i'm i'm a couple years ago someone in some
34:43
in circles said we view him as like
34:46
of abroad be like you said he wants
34:48
to be a point guard he fancies himself as guard he
34:50
guard that that's like the only
34:53
there
34:53
i [unk] pas will pay in brooklyn accept
34:56
and embrace after this my
35:00
arm and then maybe in three years of my
35:02
contract is up enough carry my not be there anymore
35:04
he might get to be the full time
35:06
i might have been reading a year captain
35:08
you might you're either in a year
35:11
i hate america beneath a hippie play
35:14
with pseudo polish
35:17
power to to failure
35:19
next question can see
35:21
this the an extension
35:25
i would never recover duran
35:28
because he was married swan right and then
35:31
yep you assume when then they'll
35:33
take care of the other two and here we go we're going to roll
35:35
with this but the other two are not
35:38
the
35:38
it's a little bit somewhere down okay see
35:41
he signed a five year extension
35:45
in two thousand and allowed to
35:47
right it seems summer
35:49
as the brian didn't
35:51
have the out for the fifth year
35:54
the he was just like a mall and for half a decade
35:58
the he regretted that at some point over the
35:59
the that five years specific today
36:02
the yard and
36:04
this time around i think he signed
36:07
the be the first domino and now they're
36:10
so any thoughts on now
36:13
i i don't
36:15
the things the way you do i ,
36:17
care about rents like you know this is where i want
36:19
to be i'm a commitment to them i
36:22
want my word to be good good
36:24
think that i think he's a man of his word many ways
36:26
i really do really i
36:28
think kevin durant's good enough and
36:30
convert enough that he's enough like when
36:33
someone else and i'll win else them to i
36:36
think that's the right answer next question jackie's
36:39
steve nash curse it do
36:41
we need to have an exorcism for steve nash do
36:43
we had to hire as three to sit retire
36:45
but priests with legs holding a basketball
36:48
and it and alec it's not it's
36:50
not steve nash am i've had
36:52
two different coaches why adore say
36:54
to me it's the curse of kenny atkinson because
36:56
they did kenny atkinson wrong and
36:58
he's one of the nicest guys in the league and
37:01
one of the most popular guys and one of the most hardworking
37:03
guys and i think everybody like it's the curse
37:05
a kenny atkinson not the curse steve nash
37:07
soon as to do the wrong sexy national
37:10
because of the year last year for juggling
37:12
all the personalities and situation a
37:15
before it all you know i i don't
37:17
think you're thinking this think of other
37:20
crazy shit that happened him on the sun's
37:22
i know and then think of he goes to
37:24
the lakers and they're on the cover of aside
37:27
as i may as well as i get his
37:29
ass
37:29
yeah but steve nash's everything that's
37:32
right so i can't i'm
37:34
with you
37:35
i'd i'd go to have an exorcism
37:38
for success
37:40
but actually i come out the bastard
37:42
series last year
37:44
entirely
37:46
and there they are go
37:48
on like what was that one run was like are the
37:50
seltzer frisk it a day and in brooklyn scores like
37:52
forty points around the merlin oh
37:54
my god and the
37:56
fact that this could be done in
37:59
less than less than
38:01
i think is insane the i
38:03
a party gets traded this week
38:07
be a stories we've ever had
38:09
been , from his
38:12
tank job in houston to then it's
38:14
to brooklyn and here we go the new big three
38:16
oh my god and and saw
38:18
think today that westbrook le bron
38:20
and davis have downplayed as
38:22
many games together as hearted
38:24
to read and tyree wives apostle
38:28
wow the
38:31
insanity yeah
38:33
etiquette even get crazy i'd imagine if imagine deal
38:35
as actually happen the match first game
38:38
with
38:39
they're playing in philadelphia
38:41
the mayor
38:42
the same a carrier of and kevin er at
38:44
roland
38:45
bird out of my awesome i'm fired up
38:47
even just the thought of it like ,
38:49
here's my question question ben simmons
38:51
gets simmons does
38:54
he play runaway is
38:56
he
38:57
ready to i don't uncle i don't know
39:00
week
39:01
i wandered around
39:04
i got you
39:06
i believe what are you what is ben
39:08
simmons ends up in sacramento after all
39:11
you are a
39:13
vienna
39:14
the talk about any day and age and a second but indiana
39:17
is that in firesale mode apparently for what
39:19
they got for the verse and now
39:21
and now expects a
39:23
i'm now you know
39:24
knows what's next for them on
39:26
play impact as hard
39:30
and
39:31
ah other factors this
39:33
brooklyn mass which saved our lives
39:37
what a default to blaming kyrie cause i do
39:39
feel like you doubt this is now
39:41
three straight franchises that we've seen complete
39:43
dysfunction and some point we have to start
39:45
looking his way at least a little bit i think that's
39:47
fair but ,
39:50
i don't have fired and as i eat at a shutdown
39:52
that trade rumors two weeks ago and they could have been
39:55
a dead so read way didn't and
39:57
either and went the funk right away
39:59
epi who would you go it
40:03
i mean i guess
40:05
the have a part time player by default
40:08
but more than anything else i think assists overall
40:10
circumstance been too
40:13
many guys are gonna hurt in addition
40:15
to kyrie being you know and
40:17
a situation that he's and given the mandate
40:19
in the yourself i'm is is released over
40:22
the summer to could have predicted all of this
40:24
to happen on
40:27
go durant's threads ,
40:30
which is allowed
40:32
the number around aga that
40:34
way that out go kyrie who
40:36
he now is it's another
40:38
year the special
40:40
theme in his at the forefront
40:43
this is now i don't know how many years we'd
40:45
see this jackie any where would you say
40:47
well if we can take the blame
40:49
pot pie fact pie fact
40:53
shouldn't the nets is a whole take certain
40:55
part of the blame for just making up their
40:57
minds that like right word
40:58
it
41:00
they're gonna tell us how it's gonna go
41:02
and were going to follow it soaks the
41:05
hero down the be part
41:07
of the deal site so know like every
41:10
gm in the league would do that i would you that surgery
41:12
isn't shaped by the way too young to jordan's a really good
41:14
guy is a good guy in
41:17
and he thought the cliff really fast
41:19
so but i was so will agree it
41:22
on but you know then you got a trade
41:24
jared
41:25
who should be making his
41:27
first all star parents and isn't made as well
41:29
as it relates mint agree lives but anyway so
41:33
you know that the dysfunction
41:36
addicting
41:37
function
41:38
the decisions they made at that
41:40
were dictated by
41:42
the guys who were come into that teams i'm
41:45
gonna slip a little that blame in there that's
41:48
a good one and the jordan
41:50
thing it's basically a two headed
41:52
mistake right because one when they gave their contract
41:54
people are like wait what he has been what writer
41:56
years what what is going on
41:59
who
41:59
he should
42:01
that trade you
42:04
, when instead of i did shared our
42:06
could that get rid guard temples contract
42:08
and that's why our had to be in it and it's
42:11
issued a bit they were those guys
42:13
are trying to stay did you
42:15
out but
42:16
but the revisionist history on that as well
42:19
jared allen was gonna be a free agent and we couldn't
42:21
have hit we and we couldn't afford to pay him the hundred
42:23
and he got it it
42:25
i'm getting that's insane insane
42:29
the nine and trade of his an asset in then can
42:31
agree why were we as well the
42:34
pudding just shared our their pockets
42:38
turning am told they get
42:40
oh depot
42:43
month to month and a half flipped him to miami
42:45
and then if you look at with it it basically
42:47
got
42:48
the him
42:49
so they take whatever the assets
42:52
that were the actual players
42:54
and got zero
42:56
next question because i still i better
42:58
go on the record i still
43:00
hate were houston got for james harden
43:03
you could argue
43:06
more that tae bo charity year
43:08
and , hard in the
43:10
arrow maybe pointing down a tiny bit maybe
43:13
was good trade i still don't
43:15
like the trade here's what they got they got
43:18
first
43:19
twenty two twenty four
43:21
right to one of those pics is this year we know that zoc
43:24
could be a top ten pick they got swaps
43:26
and twenty one which is moot point
43:30
twenty seven and then they
43:32
got they ability to dump allen and
43:34
temple to get a late first from
43:36
the cabs and with that old deeper
43:39
the any brooklyn swap so we're
43:42
talking swap that area
43:44
where it kevin durant is healthy
43:47
that those swaps will come into play with houston
43:50
just talking about a bunch picked out you could say
43:52
well with this is our boss the got tatum
43:55
i don't know i'd know i'd boston got
43:58
tatum partly because prokhorov
43:59
or whatever
44:01
like whatever strategy we had but still
44:03
what area that and one
44:06
and basically torpedoes the team and
44:09
, that was a gift from god i don't know if that happens
44:11
again a cathy i still don't like what
44:13
houston got have you changed your mind it
44:16
would you rather have them silence if you're houston
44:19
it happened and how he the situation
44:22
where they're losing in there and there's really
44:24
no hope i mean and that's in that scenario
44:26
who's to say he would be pushing his way out of
44:28
houston so quickly like hard and my been our
44:30
brooklyn i think the picture of a safer
44:33
the bat and they they already to be flexible
44:35
during the off season in any event any
44:37
player might become available are
44:39
you want to trade up for and target like
44:41
if they if they are end up with the fourth
44:44
this year's draft they
44:47
now have the ammo to put together and say
44:49
okay we're going to trade up
44:51
we want either
44:54
comes into play for the rockets but was events
44:56
him and say wasn't just seven then
44:58
a bunch of picks greater we're going
45:00
kept throwing eggs from there and but simmons
45:03
was such was big from so
45:05
i don't realize i would have taken simmons i
45:07
just think that was the better offered
45:11
it what what what do we know
45:13
that for a fact that he just won a deal hard
45:15
and the mori i'd
45:17
ever stats
45:20
the help what i heard harden and direct
45:22
wanted to play together and lobbied
45:24
josiah
45:26
that jack anything yeah that's what i heard too
45:29
but who knows everything
45:31
with this that everything gets changed around now
45:33
because of the way things are done and pics
45:37
and you just never know with
45:39
picks because once one catastrophic
45:41
injury changes of franchises
45:43
situation entirely and
45:50
what he a pretty high pick but
45:52
it's also great thing if your gm trying to keep your
45:54
job for multiple years like
45:56
look at all these pics but we all know to the
45:58
pics
45:59
they have to com a gm straight
46:02
for a lot of
46:03
right
46:04
that does not have a twenty five big
46:06
slap a sack of evidence so
46:09
say the and hardener they are there and sing piece of
46:11
this an hour so by better to the press
46:15
it's absurd bill simmons pack as birch bayh are
46:18
being be four million people around the world
46:20
are hosting an air b n b a minute
46:22
they're traveling to earn side
46:24
if you want to know how are these has welcomed
46:27
the full confidence here's how air cover
46:29
for
46:30
rose
46:31
top to bottom damage protection free
46:34
every time he was
46:35
be learn more and try for yourself
46:37
at air bnb dot com slash air cover
46:40
support for the said
46:41
i'm simply say pump security around
46:43
here we talked about the importance of good defense in the field or corporate
46:46
what about defend your own home turf
46:48
you need your robert williams in their
46:50
homes should be the safest place on earth for every
46:52
family that's why simpli safe advanced whole
46:55
home security
46:56
and your family
46:57
the with twenty four some fresh america against
47:00
and shooters and
47:02
it's like flooding
47:04
and fires you are
47:05
a really good camera system
47:09
outdoor cameras
47:10
keep an eye on your driveway and the outside your house
47:13
they can be trying to still packages
47:16
or even even worse try to break and a
47:20
leash you know not only can you
47:22
watch what's happening but the the
47:24
, out there might be a
47:26
little bit deterred it's also super easy to use
47:28
some
47:29
set it up simpli safe also uses
47:31
proprietary
47:32
if is the gouges so that muttering agents
47:35
can visually confirmed the threatened or
47:37
eleven dispatch
47:40
plans are a dour they would no longer term project
47:42
and feast cause skill
47:45
bank customized perfect system for
47:47
your home and claim a free indoor security camera
47:49
plus twenty percent off
47:51
with interactive modern just
47:53
com slash b s that a
47:55
simpli safe with to eyes simpli safe dot
47:57
com slash b s
47:59
or katie and harden i think we all
48:02
agree
48:03
they together i think they lobby just side
48:05
the nets management
48:06
this happen and i was on my way harder went
48:08
to ness i would
48:10
assume they still have still have and relationship
48:13
i would assume kd who's been pretty quiet
48:16
other than going at stephen a this week that
48:22
is lobbying hard and to stay
48:26
but i would also say in brooklyn management
48:28
is like here's what i think we could get a part of these
48:30
when i think we're going to sign and forward by the sets
48:33
there are like what , we think durant's rose
48:36
even during this whole saga is
48:38
he can silly area for nets management
48:40
is he like about i don't care i'll play with
48:42
whoever he's had the ability
48:45
with saw in saw heated zoc the westboro
48:47
for a while for a him and hard and we're
48:50
closer and closer and okay see
48:52
and then not as close and then they became
48:54
close again like he matches the i
48:56
don't
48:57
i'm out or he
49:00
i mean if if
49:02
you're katie i he is like a basketball
49:04
junkie i he he did those videos
49:06
analyzing high school players years ago he loves
49:08
it if you're a kevin duran watching james
49:11
harden right now in the back he reminded
49:13
get to be like this isn't a james
49:15
harden i was live in okay see if up
49:17
behind him behind watched when an mvp in houston
49:20
maybe getting maybe twenty five year old ben simmons
49:22
who can they be they antibodies and
49:24
sense be a point guard a facilitator
49:26
for us and off and maybe i can be better for
49:29
all say that obviously likes it either
49:31
move on off and so maybe he's back
49:33
where our man i thought i'd be more fun to play with james
49:36
the maybe it is so maybe he will
49:39
gonna be boss nabil
49:43
bar for how not book
49:45
at the games and see hard and just
49:47
who is looking into space as
49:50
often suppliers back caught behind him
49:52
and not get frustrated were in the same way
49:54
like with the brawn james of what does illustrate
49:56
right now that you thought like the basketball
49:58
analyst inside of these
50:00
this has to be saying
50:03
how about if is big
50:05
the to win a championship in i think for hard
50:07
and you're right jackie gleason earlier
50:10
for the nets i like that version of the nets more
50:13
we get simmons and a pic
50:15
danny
50:17
the you're covered her and i like the idea that
50:19
to jackie ,
50:21
did the be a turn into an
50:24
hour
50:26
jumping prime ribs and changing
50:28
friend either
50:29
have you been there are like
50:31
that oh my god i would have thought
50:35
but that's a you for for me to goes
50:37
back to a you because that's where you'll learn all
50:39
that stuff you know is on the bus
50:43
the
50:44
it is about katie
50:46
he supported kyrie irving start
50:48
to finish publicly now i don't know what goes on
50:50
privately or publicly he
50:52
has supported him there has the
50:55
wavering moment
50:56
publicly and
50:58
i
50:59
wrong
51:00
like that about him to be honest you know
51:03
neither
51:03
the of it is from abroad to kevin
51:07
, sure everything you said about him watching
51:09
russell westbrook westbrook he hasn't
51:11
said anything either so like
51:13
if you you don't have some private
51:16
conversations or thoughts about it that's
51:18
fine but both of those guys publicly
51:21
have supported their players supported their teammate
51:24
as , for dame
51:27
we don't feel like will be in the shade
51:29
that
51:30
now by
51:33
potentially be in there new look at new orleans
51:36
it all they are gotta do something oh
51:38
my goodness they have got to do something so
51:43
this basically five hundred right
51:46
and i don't know zion come back the
51:48
share not but you know the embattled gm
51:50
that so as a team that use a gun and shot
51:52
at swing for some sort of fence that bunch packs
51:55
they could package together and com trade
51:57
pretty dicey there's been a lot of mccollum buzzard
51:59
and that i'd be like
52:02
the bucks a gram john are
52:04
on track to yeah what early just start
52:06
yeah yeah for a heart attack what's
52:09
the name out there are any yep there
52:11
to see do if
52:14
if
52:15
are you trading for
52:17
a , guard who's making thirty
52:19
million bucks like to what end what
52:21
am i getting i'm
52:24
indeed
52:25
the around via and
52:27
a mean hope he's healthy yemeni even forget
52:29
zion for many gotta give ingram a scoring
52:31
partner but i think for new
52:33
orleans i would like cj
52:35
i'm damn it isn't perfect but
52:38
it sounds men it gives you a perimeter playmaker
52:40
is better than develop a grammar i'd
52:42
it's an upgrade for sure and s this is a team as
52:44
china make , name for itself
52:47
i like it in that sense and with the position they're in
52:49
in like a do what he the jackie the
52:51
i do and i think scientist
52:53
loons so large over all of all even
52:56
before he got hurt you know you and i were joking
52:58
about him wanted to play for the next you know we were kidding
53:00
sort of maybe it's an
53:03
affiliate are you just want zion to
53:06
one upstairs
53:08
you're not there's been
53:11
the replay research for this length of time it's
53:13
impossible for the team in the player to be on the same because
53:17
you start doubting yourself then you start dying them
53:19
and you know that's just human nature or
53:22
though if on the pelicans i want it
53:24
i once i on to say
53:25
it's a good trade deadline for us man i
53:29
hope i can get back i cj
53:31
mccollum everyone likes playing with cj mccollum
53:33
never heard anybody say a bad word about in terms
53:35
of being a teammate or is it awesome guy i
53:38
ask he came on my part i shared i had to
53:40
apologize them for starring in a trade rumors
53:42
for five years of because he was always
53:44
eat i was always do dame and cj awesome i
53:46
make sense of those you tube as bright red hood
53:49
with the zion saying
53:52
so , amazed by us have the right
53:54
now i'm i would bet anything on this
53:57
is gonna sign an extension he said three
53:59
major injury
53:59
that
54:00
the have that you can't mess around that's
54:03
pretty much money but said that about every stay
54:05
there your whole
54:06
right but i did you made the key point
54:09
mccollum ingram
54:12
now he brings i am back now
54:15
he of down sadness who's been really good
54:17
said am now it's like you know you have it if
54:19
some adults out there you're
54:21
building at least something and you have some pics to
54:23
make an online melbourne oh wait
54:26
yeah we as last and
54:28
indefensible but sunlit
54:30
writer you are you sir
54:32
my i could i
54:34
they didn't play again until twenty twenty
54:36
three somebody with so give him a max where
54:38
did he did it
54:40
twenty twenty three i'd
54:42
, i'd still i think he's getting eye
54:44
contact regardless i'm just saying
54:47
new are
54:48
in the summer to , him
54:50
some security which i think he's gonna take
54:53
take don't i don't know if you're him where you're going
54:55
to mess around with after a year be like i
54:57
like see medicaid the guy
55:00
maybe we've guy i owe
55:02
you with you know you are you eyelid
55:04
i i i don't know anything are under
55:06
under saying would die on here why
55:09
not the like if you do want
55:11
to leave if , actually
55:14
do you're making
55:16
five million dollars and forty forty two the
55:19
an an appalling some
55:21
who knows
55:23
it used the high
55:25
teens now for that last year before
55:27
he can become unrestricted again so
55:30
i think for williamson the it's
55:33
it's not a guarantee but it's that's
55:35
why the pelicans do need to bring some adults into
55:37
the room as he said and make the seem appealing
55:39
make it a place to be wants stay or
55:41
word nord what so we're not even talking about
55:44
this
55:44
from now it's so tough because it's
55:47
where you can't replace the money any
55:49
other time the
55:52
up into a but this is i just fundamentally
55:54
at twenty million dollar loss
55:56
that you can't replace him less
55:59
you are you gonna city like new york and
56:02
you could say what we do
56:04
this nikes gonna get ninety
56:07
five million dollar bonus or whatever like
56:09
the place
56:11
sponsors but you know with the world
56:13
larger we didn't
56:15
jones either i apologize for
56:17
for because he's been will adjust
56:19
them to light as a rookie bring
56:22
him even if i had doesn't
56:24
can come back second be of fun
56:26
frisky i play and same
56:29
the play and situation in the west is
56:31
like it's , grizzly
56:34
like portland still in there as it's has
56:36
set see there there know
56:38
certain a looks like they're try to sell
56:40
indiana became a cellar which i think
56:42
we expected so basically for love birds
56:45
they get a ladder of texted first round pick
56:47
from cleveland and then they get this east
56:49
and second and that ,
56:51
be you know in the low thirties
56:53
which is a thirties pack but
56:56
i thought they get but for for him why
57:00
why did it he added to the snacks as
57:03
and was there anybody
57:05
as out there that could have given him more than this
57:07
cause i was surprised by that this was
57:09
the trick i mean surprised i i disagree
57:11
was think it was good return for indiana here
57:14
they get to pick some the for twenty
57:16
to thirty two thirty three range depending
57:18
on where you some falls of going to give
57:20
them falls lot of flexibility on draft night
57:22
similar to what flexibility said earlier about like with houston
57:25
have any and ends up fifth or sixth
57:27
they'll have some ammo
57:29
and the problem for
57:31
them is just like as you get deeper into the first
57:33
rounders year's class seems like it'll be weaker
57:36
and we'll see how to change but
57:39
those pics and twenty twenty two don't necessarily
57:41
have the same values i'm at a deeper draft
57:43
really seen in recent years but what birds
57:45
i don't think there's people like warner
57:48
for him he's been a notoriously inefficient
57:50
score
57:51
now i'm is most
57:53
limited career or baby best was
57:56
his rookie year so
57:58
for ama
57:59
that he the
57:59
volume score and there's some value but
58:03
it's no guarantee that to be a
58:05
plus results for the cavaliers and this and
58:07
either because of his scoring inefficiencies
58:10
yeah except for he does he
58:12
the need
58:13
that drop yeah that's exactly what cleveland
58:16
needs with they're missing right after cleveland so
58:18
fun i'm really excited
58:20
and emmy really i think they're really
58:22
i like
58:23
last year he scarlets too bad sexton
58:25
is gone through such an interesting
58:27
team so that's i think
58:30
indiana the one thing you can never discount with
58:32
them
58:33
the old school owners
58:35
what's in their luxury tax line they want
58:37
to get way they won't also to cabs
58:40
i hope they don't shirts and we will
58:42
actually i do hope they trade sobornost
58:45
i'd like to see him go somewhere
58:47
more relevant in the league because i just
58:49
fly know you like him to bill
58:51
love watching them play and
58:54
the always thought they would trade
58:56
there before supper
58:58
it might even trade both if this really
59:00
the firesale that
59:02
the
59:04
so i'm lerner that's a problem turn
59:06
of that
59:07
killed their plan you know i figured
59:09
he would have been traded see i haven't gotten or any
59:12
so can see i i ,
59:14
the cavs to get gordon at
59:17
that's where the team they have
59:19
a as other he's playing well i'm
59:21
and i'm think that the price for gordon
59:24
if they've done that i guess is
59:26
is twenty seven and
59:28
, bounced around a little he's been a different types
59:31
of situations and you know if you
59:33
look at adding is like are you
59:36
know where we have your mobley now
59:38
and if kevin love him argument
59:40
if garland your lover
59:43
you've admin
59:45
exit , accident when he kebabs
59:47
fact fact than you have some
59:49
pics the accumulated to to me
59:52
this this was a move i'm guessing
59:54
i've been reading the storage shed that they really
59:56
thought about this for five
59:58
six weeks and they're like this the actually the
1:00:00
guy we want to add soda contract
1:00:02
this year next year and
1:00:04
, he does while we can extend them
1:00:07
them i think from just watching them i thought gordon
1:00:09
would have made the added adding him in
1:00:11
a playoff series i trust him when the burn
1:00:13
as a glove birds kind of a ball stopper that's
1:00:17
i i'm not positive about him with
1:00:19
the flow that this team ass so i guess
1:00:21
we'll find out
1:00:22
down on it i , he's
1:00:24
definitely leans towards scoring
1:00:26
i don't know if i'd go for bought ball stopper
1:00:29
arm he can pass a little bit i'm in
1:00:31
may be surrounded by the talent they have and cleveland
1:00:34
he leans into that even more more
1:00:36
he's not like a gov orchestrator
1:00:38
like a of the office by any means
1:00:40
which is why like jackie said he he brings what
1:00:43
they the that any downhill
1:00:45
a guy who can attack the basket and as and compliments
1:00:48
the perimeter oriented game of dareus carlin
1:00:50
they give them i mean that he's him shuffle different
1:00:52
pieces with jared allen
1:00:55
or added mobley the so many different pick and roll
1:00:57
combinations that they can play with arm
1:00:59
and i can be effective together so i
1:01:01
like it for cleveland i don't love it i'm
1:01:04
similar to like you said bill because of just the
1:01:06
natural eric gordon fit what he would have been it
1:01:08
but it almost six years older yeah and
1:01:10
he doesn't fit war is
1:01:12
so this this is clearly a traits cleveland
1:01:14
it's about more this season
1:01:17
it's about a few rolling weber into
1:01:19
something that they want him to be the fix everything
1:01:21
else well in that kevin love rejuvenation
1:01:23
season jackie
1:01:25
a guy
1:01:26
he was like way back in the freezer
1:01:28
he was gibbs like
1:01:31
the like what is that is that a pizza you're right
1:01:33
poland
1:01:34
kevin had a say
1:01:38
aside from around when
1:01:40
i go to i thought you'd forget good
1:01:42
he is yeah seriously you
1:01:44
forget a good he is again it's
1:01:46
all about said you said that earlier seven the
1:01:49
ninety five percent of all and be able it's
1:01:51
all about fit is an end
1:01:54
and your mental attitude and you know his attitude
1:01:56
sucks he deserves to get criticized
1:01:58
get criticized he knows that you know
1:01:59
yeah he was
1:02:01
the and i'm a champion i don't need this crap you don't
1:02:03
so now the center kind of fun to be
1:02:05
around and he helps them he does
1:02:08
he said and i salute a mean he's really been good
1:02:10
were you know it's a great it out as
1:02:12
fast as forever i mean i just feel like
1:02:15
i know he won a title in cleveland he'd probably do that
1:02:17
over again but just , worst possible
1:02:20
theme for him to go to for what his goes where i
1:02:22
just love when he's around the basket nureyev
1:02:24
when years when you're just putting him in the corner and you're
1:02:26
putting twenty five feet away you're taking this guy
1:02:28
who who single greatest
1:02:31
gift is his instincts
1:02:33
around the basket for as offensive rebounds
1:02:35
for the better grab defensive rebound and send
1:02:37
to pass out and all of these things that
1:02:39
have peace sustaining in the corner like jae crowder
1:02:42
right that's where i'm not using those guess
1:02:44
so of it's been nice to see it again this year
1:02:47
well in his you know he completely changes by
1:02:49
you were talking before about changing your body think about
1:02:51
minnesota kevin the
1:02:54
back and look at the old photos modeled
1:02:57
his body to because he had to because
1:02:59
he saw or enough
1:03:01
to realize the games get the
1:03:05
our survive the reason i
1:03:07
get a thrive out here in the perimeter negative figure out
1:03:09
a way to do it see completely under when a complete
1:03:11
change in his by even
1:03:13
other guy that he's not plant based but he's
1:03:15
close and you know which
1:03:17
is every single care
1:03:19
body that's you
1:03:21
may that change ahead of
1:03:24
you know roy hibbert
1:03:25
japanese like oh crap
1:03:29
where are you know an
1:03:31
average of eleven
1:03:33
planning for it
1:03:35
a , since december first the
1:03:38
two best records
1:03:39
memphis a twenty six and eight
1:03:42
in phoenix had twenty four and seven
1:03:45
and nobody else
1:03:47
really close the cost of them within four
1:03:49
five games that surprised by phoenix they've
1:03:51
been the best team start to finish our year members
1:03:54
who you are on are pod last week and you the whole
1:03:56
members love it love fest which
1:03:58
fest which agreed with
1:03:59
i'm
1:04:02
or twenty six and eight
1:04:05
that's a real record that's real that's
1:04:07
now i'm starting to wonder
1:04:10
what's the ceiling for this team and we talked
1:04:12
about is
1:04:14
this a team that she go and miss about as we talked
1:04:16
about this on a park as i did a couple days guys
1:04:19
yeah sharper but , this to
1:04:21
you is this two thousand and ten okay
1:04:23
see this be a fun ride
1:04:25
ride get our feet our or
1:04:28
is this some things a little more special
1:04:30
and a little more profound could this be the two thousand
1:04:33
and thirteen pacers or two
1:04:35
dozen for pacers that kept them with their first
1:04:37
run happy
1:04:38
or is this like of feel good story that ultimately
1:04:41
dies a grandson
1:04:43
i mean if it dies around to that is bad
1:04:45
is bad and we have to so
1:04:48
still i bank a barrel and make it around
1:04:50
to and and this western conference playoff
1:04:52
race and lose a tough hard fought series
1:04:55
or even within five validate as area that
1:04:57
case of interest is a show not
1:05:01
sure , made another person or else i'll
1:05:03
years it's rosanna that's that's answer
1:05:05
our i'm all about blown up and
1:05:07
trying to get to win a championship better be
1:05:09
the goal for every franchise i
1:05:11
think with memphis that's that's why of the perspective
1:05:14
that i do i think if they make
1:05:16
if they rush
1:05:18
this that could be that
1:05:20
could be the a negative for them when it comes
1:05:23
to actually winning and competing for
1:05:25
championship years to come this
1:05:27
course so yeah yeah i'm
1:05:29
i'm not concerned almost wouldn't how far they go
1:05:31
into play off the sheer it's about the
1:05:33
development of these players are how they've grown
1:05:35
together like it's it's a remarkable the paris
1:05:38
in this position that they aren't as crazy
1:05:40
that they're right here right now so the play off
1:05:42
and how that results for them i
1:05:45
mean it's all part of getting experience so
1:05:47
they can actually
1:05:48
i'm down with that but jackie i
1:05:51
feel i just three really good team
1:05:52
right now
1:05:53
the and i would act
1:05:56
shit we could actually like
1:05:58
well it
1:05:59
remind me of tray yelling in atlanta last year
1:06:02
jammer ancestry young you know is
1:06:04
just exploded said all
1:06:07
the positive self taught you could possibly want and
1:06:09
enough to pass out to the rest of the guys on his team to
1:06:11
share a little bit simplistic
1:06:13
the all over the place desmond bay
1:06:16
the me is still the key to that team because he says
1:06:18
so many ups and downs with injuries i i think
1:06:21
she's
1:06:22
where are we haven't even come close
1:06:24
he
1:06:26
i mean it's had some injuries as we know
1:06:30
they're just remind me of it land you know
1:06:32
who got to the conference finals last year member
1:06:35
yes
1:06:37
kyle thought it had
1:06:40
been watching been watching jar i'm gonna say something
1:06:43
the religious
1:06:44
bear with me especially you jackie like either way
1:06:46
to like philo
1:06:48
right thing because this because this this is that
1:06:50
is like that most hyperbolic being
1:06:52
i'm a minute they make
1:06:55
get a drink first i
1:06:58
was it was whiskey it's just watching
1:07:01
job yo , not
1:07:03
going to like this i already know go ahead ahead
1:07:07
we were there for late for
1:07:09
young for oh
1:07:11
my god you're not god in this
1:07:14
is why said brad of the cigarettes
1:07:16
brad of
1:07:19
the most fun
1:07:21
this was when he would go
1:07:22
the basket and he would go
1:07:24
up
1:07:26
this shit what happened and their be these
1:07:28
double clutches and pumps or he dunk
1:07:30
over some
1:07:31
it got to the point and puzzle it back
1:07:34
in that era guys were close
1:07:36
guys were under thirty and so there is a fear factor
1:07:39
to which i think we have a job but the
1:07:41
thing that was so great about him those early years
1:07:43
was just have citing was to watch him go to
1:07:45
the basket and he was just doing stuff we really
1:07:47
hadn't seen other than people like
1:07:50
the even with jordan was to be double clutches
1:07:53
these him sideways forty two
1:07:55
fat five degree angles and yeah
1:07:57
this
1:07:58
these had a day at
1:07:59
the do that
1:08:01
in watching
1:08:03
jar the shared reminds me that and i'm
1:08:05
not saying he's jordan and i'm not
1:08:07
saying is that start any it's
1:08:09
like when when i watch him do that
1:08:12
he read the of young jordan
1:08:14
where there's a lot of how did he do that stuff
1:08:17
i initially i was like he's derrick rose is
1:08:19
back there grows is like rose westbrook
1:08:21
like the same kind of thing
1:08:24
couldn't do the stuff that he does that the
1:08:26
doubled such the
1:08:27
a crazy fucking shit
1:08:29
that he does well reminds
1:08:32
me a be a desert and i'm sorry and
1:08:34
the other thing that jamarat done
1:08:36
that those guys didn't do as january
1:08:38
can shoot right ,
1:08:40
themselves out of shoe oh i'm sure he's getting
1:08:42
some help help i mean you know the
1:08:45
early knock on him was well he he's just one of
1:08:47
those guys exciting guys but he can't you
1:08:49
know teams know defense was just sag
1:08:51
awesome and you can't make him pay well i just don't think that's
1:08:53
going to be true so he's really fun
1:08:55
to watch but i'm sorry i just can't go there with you so
1:08:57
sorry i listen i'm not going all the way
1:08:59
there i'm not saying that you're down to say this
1:09:02
one say quality really
1:09:05
reminds me of jordan care if he was that to he
1:09:07
are now i mean there's probably a few hyperbolic
1:09:10
but he sure as hell of fun and
1:09:12
i'm not i'm not going to let comparisons ruined my
1:09:14
enjoyment of watching java or and just
1:09:17
like weasel her way to the basket or
1:09:19
speed bursts his way to the bow
1:09:21
it is launched himself where
1:09:24
he doesn't and so many different ways of the left
1:09:26
hand with the right hand like the other day against
1:09:28
orlando still you mention how like
1:09:30
jordan will be getting close lined get
1:09:32
i had this layout where was like this
1:09:34
less foot last hands
1:09:36
school spanish and that orlando help
1:09:38
defender canada did the way he timed
1:09:41
his job
1:09:42
yeah flat to bedroom
1:09:44
intentionally but others like one
1:09:46
of those moments that reminds you about while from the
1:09:48
past when they were intentionally getting
1:09:50
close i have a job like remarkable and
1:09:53
can't get enough a water him drive to the bathroom so
1:09:55
in that sense i love it very well he's a lot
1:09:57
right for all m b a we agree that like we're
1:09:59
the i figured say i
1:10:02
well i'm just curious
1:10:04
i think she's probably grab
1:10:06
in the cari spot if he can stay healthy the
1:10:08
rest of the air really think so i think
1:10:10
it's and play for him yet and i first or second
1:10:13
near yeah isn't isn't the bagger you know
1:10:15
the other guy who's like this just that
1:10:17
gosh
1:10:18
the basket in the air stuff young
1:10:20
coby was like that to read at i think
1:10:24
the got older and kind
1:10:26
of that two thousand six to two
1:10:28
we became kind of the dominant coby
1:10:30
memory for people in a year was
1:10:33
more recent and with the
1:10:35
focal point yeah it'll have more space
1:10:37
cause shaq was there anymore but you
1:10:39
are says the late nineties
1:10:41
coby games either
1:10:43
, and that was you're just like
1:10:45
oh my god this guy the way the goes
1:10:47
to the basket she's
1:10:48
there's been so little like that too but vince
1:10:51
was a lot bigger i think yeah mj
1:10:54
there they were like kind of there's a frailty
1:10:56
to their bodies were you're nervous as their
1:10:58
own up for you know they coby
1:11:01
i did a piece with koby once a million years
1:11:03
ago i was it was it
1:11:05
out the sgn i can't remember but i
1:11:07
sat down and watch film with them and
1:11:09
film of oscar any show me what he stole from
1:11:11
oscar
1:11:12
we sat down what's like a lot of jordan film
1:11:14
and aegis though everything he was a thief
1:11:16
like all the great ones any
1:11:18
was telling me the early on his career
1:11:20
he said like a lot of the stuff jordan was
1:11:22
doing he didn't hurt either
1:11:25
that you do not a postcards up in the
1:11:28
post right that was some down and told them about later
1:11:30
on but as i put i knew i could i had
1:11:32
the athleticism to do so he would like have
1:11:35
films attorney would attorney sit there and watch until
1:11:37
like michael cooper used to did when did when trying to figure
1:11:39
out how to guard larry bird he just watch him over
1:11:41
and over and over again so the said
1:11:43
to do things that remind you of jordan
1:11:45
at that's by design that's not by accent
1:11:47
now i'd be like his job watch
1:11:51
film a coli or or jordan or he
1:11:53
probably as he probably is like a man on my own
1:11:55
guy in this is how like this is how i do
1:11:57
it but i the
1:11:59
thing
1:12:00
three that guy that young cobija jordan
1:12:03
what we see from guys he's
1:12:05
only the basket he's
1:12:07
not he's gonna decide later
1:12:10
when when right is outside
1:12:13
in a lane i'm jumping
1:12:14
the and then i'll try to figure it out as this
1:12:17
guy bounces off and i think that
1:12:19
such they like doc was like
1:12:21
that to your daughter of statements oh my
1:12:23
god funny hawkins was of round
1:12:25
but i think it's a c cognac
1:12:30
but yeah doctor jay for sure
1:12:32
fact i was just talking to doctor jay for a project
1:12:34
you
1:12:35
that a bit yeah eddie was tell me that you
1:12:38
, the first it'll fall don't
1:12:40
eat he he wasn't planning on
1:12:42
it you know he was like gonna go do the big
1:12:45
dipper lion you know
1:12:47
the also like wow i'm kind of
1:12:50
oh when she loves switched
1:12:52
to work to be the aired say later
1:12:55
sooner should i don't get like just one hundred
1:12:57
for like a witness love that a man i would persist
1:13:00
that for our going to famous they did
1:13:02
eighty bottles play when it as the soup on a desk
1:13:04
i would think obama break than a couple
1:13:06
more things in them ago
1:13:10
hey if you've ever traveled
1:13:12
for a game you know you gotta figure
1:13:14
out everything out everything a time especially begun west
1:13:16
coast east coast gotta think about
1:13:18
when
1:13:19
the land how much time ago
1:13:22
to act go directly to the game
1:13:24
to i have
1:13:26
how much second to my hotel he said
1:13:29
perfectly
1:13:31
need a , credit card
1:13:34
the integrate airline
1:13:36
the you probably everyone i want to check
1:13:39
it work
1:13:40
luckily the delta skymiles
1:13:43
american express cards for people like us
1:13:46
what they like but if you travel
1:13:49
yeah
1:13:53
because with the trade deadline it's four days
1:13:55
away with
1:13:58
pat
1:14:00
chicago in our on friday yes
1:14:04
the yeah
1:14:05
yeah so and
1:14:08
so don't move around the fringes but they
1:14:11
won't actually make around they they don't don't need
1:14:13
to okay
1:14:15
who
1:14:17
it as nerc age
1:14:25
the either on friday
1:14:29
the report
1:14:31
the above gun
1:14:32
jackie
1:14:34
mccomb goes maybe nerc it's
1:14:36
face only i could leonard the deal they
1:14:39
want a little
1:14:41
markets yeah yeah i agree with that
1:14:44
something about
1:14:45
great com
1:14:48
the yoga
1:14:49
don't look like most you know dwight schrute
1:14:52
cousin most assists
1:14:54
, of
1:14:57
or
1:14:59
there now
1:15:02
here know the alarm
1:15:04
that you know what they're going to do you know it can do they need to
1:15:06
get under the cap to they want to get under the luxury
1:15:08
cap they want some brooklyn's money and
1:15:11
, clippers money so they'll deal shrewder
1:15:13
i think they'll get they'll deal shrewder to somebody
1:15:17
and get
1:15:17
the get under that number
1:15:21
then prefers nineteen and ten ah my
1:15:24
team boise item
1:15:27
you know really like alas believers they were
1:15:29
you let us he was allowed we wanted to be
1:15:31
back i told you and you know you could
1:15:33
argue that he doesn't have for the all star
1:15:35
game you could argue that i mean i get lively
1:15:37
and then fleet god
1:15:40
that
1:15:41
chris yeah look at his numbers
1:15:43
over the last
1:15:45
been back to the are you better
1:15:47
others he's been back to the
1:15:48
little guy be even better now because he smarter
1:15:50
he's stronger
1:15:54
coach they're unbelievable what they've done so
1:15:57
cassie today
1:15:59
the
1:15:59
the deadline because the east again as
1:16:02
we keep saying it sonics it
1:16:04
the open right now and you know
1:16:07
said the dragon
1:16:08
they get a little frisky
1:16:12
i haven't heard anything in terms
1:16:15
of targets and what not but how did you not
1:16:17
at least for i just you said does go
1:16:19
theaters better than he's ever been right now they put
1:16:21
the ball in his hands letting him run point more
1:16:23
often be a playmaker and he looks
1:16:25
absolutely sensational never mind everybody
1:16:28
else and that he made like that because we're and
1:16:30
always has to me like his role as don't play
1:16:32
guys who sought i mean they don't play anybody to
1:16:34
success as a team for a good players that
1:16:36
i'll can play and play together to
1:16:38
so i think to on a will explore whatever
1:16:40
i find anything that remains to be same can
1:16:43
i say
1:16:44
about dragic like i like drugs
1:16:47
one of those guys
1:16:48
you know guy everybody counts out and all well
1:16:50
we we don't need an we're going off load hamburger do
1:16:52
this and i get i get watch runners
1:16:54
doing this i guess but as a superbad
1:16:58
what about headed want to play their
1:17:00
i don't out
1:17:01
the red thought about it at that
1:17:03
are on that he was one of those around us to codes
1:17:05
to steer the army
1:17:07
it guys yeah but it's they didn't
1:17:09
train him
1:17:10
yeah
1:17:12
it
1:17:14
this thing but i'll get you a i'll add up on
1:17:16
a blasting then
1:17:19
then i'll be fine i like crazy good place
1:17:21
for him
1:17:24
the
1:17:27
can a real i literally iodides
1:17:30
answer to that of
1:17:32
a subaru eyes are made like you
1:17:34
like you up the fox thing on
1:17:36
ours green room other definitely
1:17:38
thought the lotta harrison barnes
1:17:41
stuff out there to and that's the guy on and on earth
1:17:44
yeah why
1:17:46
you went from like the he's being a keeper
1:17:48
for sacramento really in a season he is considered a
1:17:50
keeper now he's involved and everything
1:17:53
everything he has harrison barnes harrison barnes
1:17:55
and on our some barnes like you
1:17:57
know he was on those gone state teams and
1:17:59
now he's been in sacramento for all this signing
1:18:02
he's a guy that you know he's very
1:18:04
until the
1:18:05
and he's like a very intelligent guy various aware
1:18:07
and and i think he's a guy that understands
1:18:10
or our business you know media business
1:18:12
and like he must be true
1:18:14
right just drowning because
1:18:16
you go there to die you know
1:18:19
i was
1:18:21
three my
1:18:22
cassie
1:18:25
that they'll have
1:18:27
a dream of with the other hand if the and like athletic
1:18:29
a couple couple like twenty games on
1:18:31
the pistons i mean i've never
1:18:33
thought
1:18:34
the moment but yes that he had was young
1:18:37
i bet he confessed that he can play it
1:18:39
consists of minutes and as early as the something
1:18:41
there were decent doesn't matter right now
1:18:44
jackie
1:18:46
pc go all in answer bonus favor
1:18:48
, picks when i said
1:18:52
the salary for like and i was thinking
1:18:54
about than the other day to because at what point to say
1:18:56
guilds is alexander saying i'm like okay
1:18:58
say
1:18:59
yeah i've been patient but now what
1:19:01
is this like you know another all star
1:19:03
snub at the you could argue say guilders
1:19:06
alexander but no one's ever gonna
1:19:08
know if i'm him i'm going to be like
1:19:10
yeah when do we actually you know doing
1:19:13
this
1:19:13
so supposed to be pretty good
1:19:15
start either the
1:19:18
new orleans air for that matter they could
1:19:20
the bag like a know why not yeah
1:19:24
what about body heal that's what i want to know but
1:19:27
he healed i don't hear his name
1:19:28
that i would he has east i've
1:19:30
been
1:19:31
course you can i like you
1:19:34
will
1:19:35
the was seems idea
1:19:38
the deck chairs movie
1:19:41
for both teams and ladder where i
1:19:43
guess my thing with radar and have success
1:19:45
of knicks fans about it were
1:19:48
freedom
1:19:49
number one right when they play the next next really
1:19:51
started since the playoffs last year
1:19:54
and i think for julius
1:19:56
randle as the best part of the other team you'll
1:19:58
probably get a build a solid angeles randall
1:20:00
so there's a question like what would happen
1:20:02
if he was with other really good players with
1:20:05
and would he
1:20:06
fit once again or at the fit
1:20:08
place right so fear
1:20:10
durham
1:20:12
it only gets for halliburton get
1:20:14
a maybe that's it better fed i don't care
1:20:17
see and i are more down idea of fox i think
1:20:19
the most forties and jackie
1:20:22
the air and fox but i want to but
1:20:25
i want year
1:20:26
back the clock to when he was a rookie and we
1:20:28
saw things that made us interested in and
1:20:30
and hopeful and i
1:20:32
haven't seen that
1:20:33
and again in and out
1:20:35
yeah sorry but
1:20:37
don't know you know you the whole sacramento
1:20:40
malays it's it's just
1:20:42
really you know it's been so
1:20:44
long but it was of it was ablaze when
1:20:46
you are covered best while the like i
1:20:49
said it's busy at all long as
1:20:51
heavy as the all the the only sign their ever
1:20:53
the shackles calling him the queen's you know
1:20:56
yourself it's just
1:20:58
it's it's
1:20:59
place for a lot of reasons
1:21:01
or outlets
1:21:03
celtics by
1:21:04
there's can say
1:21:08
the way things i'm hearing it
1:21:10
seems more like sellers why
1:21:14
not be a buyer considering the state of
1:21:16
these the conference will be my question
1:21:19
reanimate sellers a give you
1:21:21
an answer chance because they're another team that was
1:21:23
going on have that luxury tax they really
1:21:25
do because they're looking at the roster and the saints
1:21:28
okay yeah that the east is wide open but we're
1:21:30
really we don't enlist
1:21:33
did you know this line of was for for a brown
1:21:36
said i'm marcus
1:21:38
forgetting the city
1:21:39
what am i here for he would have an eight man rotation
1:21:42
not it's wet with that and everybody else
1:21:44
is out with that starting lineup is only been
1:21:46
together like sixteen games and their than the
1:21:48
plus minus numbers with that lineup of is it's
1:21:51
i kind of unbelievable and marcus march
1:21:53
number since he came back from colbert in the injuries
1:21:55
are just off the charts so easily
1:21:57
plan to explain his way to stay in ice
1:22:00
the i've heard about the celtic says you're not going to
1:22:02
anything big they you know they're gonna hang
1:22:04
on to tatum and and brown and
1:22:07
then as you thus or speculated
1:22:09
i guess we should say bill at what point
1:22:11
to sail
1:22:13
i don't know do i
1:22:15
if i'm never gonna be so
1:22:18
all he's done our team
1:22:20
jayson tatum gets all the love i think
1:22:22
i'm better than that you know there was
1:22:24
a report i think by sdi both that the former
1:22:26
held right or this week that said you
1:22:28
know there's some discomfort or a
1:22:30
little you know uncertainty
1:22:33
jaylen brown is thinking so what
1:22:35
does that do for you the your brad stevens
1:22:37
i don't you do a thing now do you deal shrewder
1:22:40
because
1:22:41
the recently
1:22:42
and some something really
1:22:44
deep contending team will add him as insurance
1:22:47
not walk year somebody or whatever to box
1:22:49
yeah to bombardment am i'm here in milwaukee
1:22:52
and out in so you've made you move him
1:22:54
on the one thing i've heard that i is
1:22:57
a possibility movie grant williams i think grant
1:22:59
wishes had a really good year any sports
1:23:01
is to show before it is too short
1:23:04
but you don't
1:23:06
three three you so
1:23:09
you to
1:23:10
trade grant williams i'd
1:23:13
the
1:23:14
he finally figure three
1:23:16
that accused me of i'm saying this but he's an actual now
1:23:19
that i know you don't like of you and your dad i
1:23:21
know that no idea how man i i've mccallum
1:23:23
right said i spent i just the
1:23:25
my dad he does was in a trade shrewder he
1:23:28
likes
1:23:29
cause he
1:23:31
the east is wide open and he's a lunatic
1:23:33
of my favorite i found
1:23:36
a productive for them counterproductive and my to
1:23:38
me as rather than shooter off the bench
1:23:40
as like just twenty minutes a game
1:23:42
vs roll the dice been pritchard adam
1:23:45
is dice think it's just as
1:23:47
that they trade lag for to okay
1:23:49
see you don't get protected
1:23:52
two thousand and forty one sec grab take
1:23:54
rebate basically giving him away to
1:23:56
get under the tax they're getting into the tax
1:23:59
regardless matters
1:23:59
are they that's what they wanna do yeah
1:24:02
but then they get could you get an actual
1:24:04
draft pick from somebody from shooters i can come
1:24:06
from walking watched as average draft picks
1:24:08
phoenix az
1:24:10
yeah
1:24:12
i don't think you get address
1:24:14
these he's he can walk you
1:24:16
know i don't
1:24:19
is this why smart
1:24:22
could make more sense if you
1:24:24
get a good the market sort of
1:24:26
her the timberwolves really really on a like
1:24:28
embark near a love them and
1:24:30
mean that that kind of indicates evaluate they want have
1:24:32
been sentenced for a long time if they're not
1:24:34
getting same as me they want they're smart
1:24:36
to be their defensive oriented player but i
1:24:39
don't you get a good i'm are bad for marcus smart
1:24:41
the you're not gonna get for some of these other guys to get another
1:24:43
tax i did you wait
1:24:46
i did you wait till the summer do that cats
1:24:48
i agree this i've
1:24:52
i've been really last couple weeks
1:24:54
i think you figured it out right as
1:24:56
he figured it
1:24:57
there continues or not but i actually think
1:25:00
i think he took allow the celtics
1:25:02
need a real point guard dialogue
1:25:04
that three weeks i
1:25:06
think he take a person
1:25:08
much
1:25:11
the shot selection spend much better and
1:25:13
i think i think he's been really good
1:25:16
though when am i
1:25:17
the nervousness i'd be nervous to trade
1:25:19
him shredders the one that makes most
1:25:22
sense i could also
1:25:24
op one of these contracts and
1:25:27
doing it that way
1:25:28
the is gonna be the big
1:25:30
kind of wild card
1:25:32
you know
1:25:35
next
1:25:36
there's because they're so far under the salary
1:25:38
for right they can basically black hair
1:25:41
will get younger the luxury tax like send
1:25:43
your guy here so they were about
1:25:45
to pick up and route twenty thirty eight seconds
1:25:48
yonder jordan of the net sense
1:25:53
no he's a is i read
1:25:55
ah the lakers had some
1:25:57
insights yeah availability got i still
1:25:59
the internet yeah but if they're gonna some
1:26:02
some try to move him that will be there move right so
1:26:04
take some probably to
1:26:07
stare they have the side on their store
1:26:09
that like open twenty four seven five
1:26:12
minute later the great what
1:26:14
can the lakers do they can't do anything right
1:26:17
warrant tucker
1:26:18
read trade westbrook
1:26:20
twenty twenty seven first horton talker
1:26:23
for wall and eric gordon stuff that still
1:26:25
eat i do best of my games you crazy here
1:26:27
you have a shot , that
1:26:29
book i've read that book three times already susan
1:26:32
weight weight used to do that now
1:26:37
pereira gordon why not
1:26:40
pull that off have been air gordon i
1:26:43
went to game jack at iso cassie this
1:26:45
but i went to the clipper game the other night and
1:26:47
a result
1:26:48
or opened and i think any and be a part of
1:26:50
ever been to a game and they they were like eleven
1:26:53
feet off the big three last that against
1:26:55
next but fry say so clearly
1:26:57
need anybody who can with
1:27:00
the spacing but figured you thing for the lakers
1:27:03
is davis looks
1:27:05
and so the look like crap
1:27:08
to start the season but the guy we've seen
1:27:10
this week with like anthony davis again so
1:27:12
that an open little
1:27:15
bit for them now but
1:27:17
well i just i
1:27:20
just
1:27:20
you d more than anthony davis at all
1:27:23
le bron looks i mean unbelievable
1:27:25
comeback out that bad knee but i don't
1:27:27
think that's the last word bad knee he only
1:27:29
took a day and a half or to date two games offer
1:27:31
when average of some
1:27:35
how do they get every
1:27:37
what team
1:27:39
is jackie what team do you like the most of the had to pick
1:27:41
one simone the tarot reader is midas
1:27:43
phoenix
1:27:44
the season two bucks a plague the
1:27:46
bucks yunus is very quietly once again
1:27:49
averaging twenty plus points a game for like
1:27:51
how many games that are own else seventeen games are
1:27:54
over at ever and they get
1:27:56
they get everything they need i'll take the bucks there's
1:27:58
take question for you if you had
1:27:59
they could see my daughter when the finals who is it the
1:28:02
phoenix
1:28:04
oh
1:28:06
complete
1:28:07
the changes needed they , play
1:28:09
any style if they can they can dictate
1:28:12
styles and you need to adapt
1:28:14
to them arm and i also have some
1:28:16
guys who could be the best player on the court or
1:28:18
anything or my and chris paul devin booker
1:28:23
there's a little eighties lakers
1:28:25
celtics kind of our
1:28:27
down
1:28:29
it all yeah
1:28:32
now there are ten what happened oh they went
1:28:34
on like a twenty eight two four run like they have
1:28:36
that switch like the
1:28:38
old school kick ass we saw with the to that
1:28:40
seventy words and that's and there's good as them but
1:28:43
they do have
1:28:44
mode
1:28:46
the kind of messing around
1:28:48
they added like uma thurman
1:28:49
i'd be thrilled if they want
1:28:51
everything about them is what's good about
1:28:53
the and be a you know the way they got their
1:28:55
their it's home grown apart they
1:28:57
take everybody thought was done
1:28:59
i am and that's a great and eight and and can't believe
1:29:02
they didn't pay him but that the allow come back
1:29:04
to bite them and that will be okay to fight
1:29:06
yeah they're easy to roof for a mighty ways is one
1:29:08
of the he was always one of the most underrated
1:29:10
coaches around never got his do i think
1:29:12
he has the last couple years and i'm i'm glad for
1:29:15
selling i'd be or i'll be all right with that but i just
1:29:17
i just watched the bucks they
1:29:20
you know after the always disappointed so just change
1:29:22
the way they yeah
1:29:23
the regular season and they just
1:29:26
watch their
1:29:26
rest and they try different things they don't give
1:29:29
you everything they have a whole bunch of stuff you haven't
1:29:31
seen yet i guarantee it and they have younis
1:29:33
who says otherwise
1:29:36
when it's funny know and talking about him friend the peak
1:29:38
as you know we get so bee
1:29:41
venom amazing joke it is right there at
1:29:43
all times but yeah
1:29:46
why and why are we not talk about yannis
1:29:49
yahoo
1:29:50
daves everybody grab
1:29:52
that
1:29:53
his and and we talk about that guy this it
1:29:55
didn't it so funny fifty cycle
1:29:57
starts at my game fifteen now and than
1:29:59
ever
1:29:59
it gets their say they are either
1:30:02
, picked sons bugs before the season i have
1:30:04
not seen anything that makes
1:30:07
that picture now philly a
1:30:10
philly
1:30:14
be oh and they were able to keep curry and everybody
1:30:16
else than that would make me possibly
1:30:19
switch
1:30:20
because
1:30:22
it beats by that by be enough other
1:30:24
the bucks i that's like kind of
1:30:26
like am i really want to see what they do on
1:30:28
thursday to like kinda they
1:30:31
are at ages can wait up to get that person
1:30:34
but the by up you said she
1:30:36
saw the mellow and person she went to give her of you
1:30:39
know i just was
1:30:40
once very briefly his rookie year
1:30:43
and some
1:30:44
so
1:30:47
i didn't realize he so light and i
1:30:49
kept thinking wait till i mean nineteen
1:30:51
had to go back and check i thought he was older and
1:30:53
we back and check nineteen and
1:30:56
another
1:30:56
not by the way lamellar up again
1:30:59
that and am i just
1:31:01
wonder like
1:31:02
what like muscle
1:31:05
will i don't think so you know
1:31:08
any sir simpli better
1:31:10
diaz watch him a lot on defense and
1:31:12
that's probably why the coaches did vote and you know they voted
1:31:14
ramos reason and that tells you everything you need to know
1:31:16
right so it's kind of like member the year before
1:31:18
that and portray on on without my
1:31:20
think about that is you know everybody would love
1:31:23
to see the melbourne and our style games at all
1:31:25
stuck in id love to see him on other player
1:31:27
he be passed and everybody so quick as
1:31:29
you study was
1:31:31
i wonder
1:31:32
the future as you know that
1:31:34
was in this like fifteen
1:31:36
years ago that they they have a commissioners
1:31:38
pack for each conference just
1:31:40
to make the game more fun without up
1:31:43
in the mellowed back as we just lamellar
1:31:45
she's been the all star game and says canada u
1:31:47
ten percent more find there's certain guys like
1:31:49
that and at i'm somebody
1:31:53
and aback it out
1:31:54
the injury or something he would be the guy
1:31:57
i'll get sued
1:31:58
it would be for the other com
1:31:59
it should be your fun pick fc well
1:32:02
chemical
1:32:03
quick question is he in the rising stars bad
1:32:05
little tournament they're doing is a
1:32:08
good
1:32:08
that looks or not i could be cool i'm
1:32:10
happy he's about say no i look at i was over
1:32:13
but it's kind of like i don't know
1:32:16
the play have jv have varsity i'm like yeah
1:32:19
well i gotta say athena of
1:32:21
our the thing with yacht as of the
1:32:23
i'll be dead
1:32:25
really cool a anthony edwards is the one of the west
1:32:27
right anthony edwards
1:32:29
in theaters
1:32:30
i were to me
1:32:35
i'm in in general having
1:32:38
some of the best interviews have any under twenty
1:32:40
two guys that we had is
1:32:43
really like on and i dare say we
1:32:45
can hear you this match are weak your
1:32:47
comment on here really began to trade
1:32:50
deadline stuff jackie
1:32:53
have were going to be announcing something soon
1:32:55
where your secret project is ben so
1:32:58
i'm excited for that
1:32:59
i do
1:33:01
yeah machete for the world
1:33:03
be the see both to be thanks for coming to our
1:33:05
guys like challenge us
1:33:08
or that zip to the podcast bags
1:33:10
to talk great for producing as always thanks to
1:33:12
dump bertie for the great video stuff and steve's
1:33:14
really for helping out as well as
1:33:18
the back on this feed on tuesday with
1:33:21
big superbowl mega preview
1:33:23
and then i'm marie watch
1:33:25
muslin and i say to the next us that
1:33:28
his schedule i'll see you here
1:33:30
on tuesday
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More