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Welcome everybody to the Big Niang

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Theory. Thanks George. Joel Embiide

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is in the building already tells me that

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I suck. Think about where

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you were and like, where are you right now? Can you run

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a bike for rude? And yes, thank

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you for making time for the Big Niang Theory.

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I appreciate you have me bro. Welcome

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back everybody. This is season

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two of The Big Niang Theory.

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I'm George Niang with my co host Lauren

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Rosen, and for this special episode,

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we have a second co host, Tyrese

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Maxie. But I

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think we're excited to have this guest.

0:38

Yes, we do, but this guest d' anthony Melton.

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You know, d'y anthony came from Memphis

0:45

in a trade this offseason and we

0:47

are a little bit more than a quarterway through

0:49

the year and we're more than excited to

0:52

have d' anthony a part of our team on

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the basketball court. But to let you

0:56

fans get an inside look at

0:58

who d' anthony is further adod

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Anthony Melton, welcome to the Big Yang

1:03

Theory. Man. Thank you for having

1:05

me so and I ain't gonnaut. I like

1:07

the name Big meant theory.

1:09

It fits especially with the cell big Bang theory.

1:12

You know, I mean I like bang bang,

1:18

so um.

1:20

You know, obviously you came from Memphis,

1:22

d' anthony. I don't I don't know if you want to

1:24

get two in depth about it. But how was that process,

1:27

you know, getting traded A lot of fans

1:29

only see you know how that goes on, you

1:31

know through Sports Center or you know, the

1:33

internet. How was that process for you?

1:35

What were you doing? We all know it was Draft night,

1:38

but how did that, you know, go for

1:40

you? So the seventy six

1:42

ers have the twenty third overall selection. They

1:45

are trading the twenty third selection

1:47

and Danny Green to the Memphis Grizzlies

1:50

for d' anthony Melton. Well,

1:53

before you like,

1:57

you know what I mean, I do refresh Twitter and

2:00

I'm reading that's Memphis. Disis

2:02

has anything for

2:07

the twenty that I'm just like, whoa, yeah,

2:09

hold on is that my name? Yeah? That's a big

2:11

time change though, seriously, Like going

2:14

from a Memphis team that's like

2:17

young and and and small. Yeah,

2:20

like I'm walking to going to a team that's on

2:22

national TV, a loot with two you know, future

2:24

Hall of famers for sure, and Joe and

2:26

James, So I mean, how

2:29

what's your mindset going into that? Like seriously,

2:31

like that's that's so big of a different Like I'm there

2:33

trying to think about it, like Memphis, y'all play like you

2:36

know, y'all play so free, so differently than than

2:38

how we do. You know, what was your what's your thoughts

2:40

coming in first? Like my first

2:43

thought was like I'm

2:46

ready, Like I'm ready with a championship, like

2:48

you know what I mean, It's like I saw

2:50

how how dominant you guys could be. Um,

2:52

even though it's like you guys haven't gone as

2:55

far as you guys probably wanted to. But at

2:57

the same time, it's like, I know the

2:59

pieces is there, um, you know,

3:02

even given yeah, you got

3:04

James, Joe, but also you got you

3:06

you know what I mean, you're excited. It's

3:08

somebody I know I can get out in transition

3:10

with boom, uh get up and

3:12

down, we could move. Also Tobias

3:15

something that's like he's he's a good shooter.

3:17

He got great for him, you know, he got his spots

3:19

that he can ride, stuff like that. And it's it's

3:21

the role players too, that's like, Okay, I know I can

3:24

fit in here and we can all get get

3:26

to it. You know what I mean. I

3:28

mean, Darrel's to do that drafted me, so I felt

3:30

like it was loved there. Um, And then every

3:32

time I played Doc, He's always showed

3:35

love. So I was just excited.

3:37

Um. Doc called me literally like probably

3:40

two minutes after that, talked to

3:43

him, talked to Zach Kleman Memphis

3:45

Gym, and then talk to my agent. I

3:47

was just ready, like I was ready for whatever.

3:50

Tyrese, when you won the Community assist

3:52

Award, d Anthony said some really nice

3:54

things about ya. Tyres Is just like like

3:57

he kind of said, he's he's

3:59

calling militant with some things, you know what I mean,

4:01

like getting there early, Like even

4:04

when I first met him, Like I'm

4:06

showing up at I think it was like a

4:08

ten A and workout and I'm

4:10

showing up like nine fifty, you

4:12

know what I mean. He's sitting there,

4:14

Dad, he's sitting down ready, our shoes

4:17

tied, and I'm like, Oh, it's not like

4:19

you just getting here and stuff like that, like how you he

4:22

said. They said, Noah, it's my second workout

4:24

already, And I was just like, oh yeah,

4:27

I see, Like you know what I mean. That's type stuff that you

4:29

know what I mean, great players doing. That's when he's

4:31

striving to be So you know it'd

4:33

be making me mad sometimes how

4:36

early he is. But you know, like you

4:38

said, it makes you want to be better. You know, makes

4:40

you worried about what time I'm getting

4:42

there and now you like, you know what I mean, what am

4:45

I doing? So yeah,

4:47

it definitely makes you want to be better. D'y

4:50

Anthony said some really nice things about you and about your friendship.

4:53

How would you describe your friendship with d Anthony

4:55

because we haven't heard you talk about it before, Like how

4:57

did it come about so quickly? And how

5:00

did you guys get so close as quickly as you did? And

5:02

they work out every damn I want

5:04

to say, I think I think I have to be the

5:06

first person on the team. Yeah,

5:09

yeah, this, I'll just tell y'all this

5:11

story. So they tell

5:13

me milts coming to work out and like and like,

5:15

hey, you want it is the cool milk can work I'm like, yeah,

5:18

man, I don't care. I'm cool, So like, all

5:20

right, cool, So milk walking in about

5:22

I don't know about, but

5:25

let's I'm like, you know, I'm an early riser. Everybody

5:27

knows I'm an early riser. And they're like, what time

5:29

you want to go? Like, well, I want to go at six And

5:31

they're like, no, I look back it up

5:33

a little bit. So I'm all right, what thing win? Like

5:35

ten to eleven? So we work out whatever,

5:37

but it's all cool. Like we played a little one on one and

5:40

the one thing that I would say about both of us, so we're competitive

5:43

guys, so like and the one on one, it's

5:45

like it's a weird feeling because you don't want to be

5:47

overly competitive because you don't know who you're like, you

5:50

don't know he's gonna snap, you know what I'm saying,

5:52

But like you still want to win because you want those

5:54

back. So like we played a little bit of Dad, you know, we got

5:56

along from there, but our relationship, i mean, our fresh

5:58

we kind of took off from there. Man. It's just like you

6:01

know, training camp, we laughs, you know, play cards

6:03

and um, you know, work out with spins together.

6:06

Um. You know, I think it's just like us

6:08

being young. We're like basically the youngest two

6:10

on the team. I think the youngest two that played,

6:12

like in the rotation so it's like we

6:14

connect that way. And then just

6:17

being like he said, like young, fast, energetic.

6:20

Uh turn, Like we are like the turn guys

6:22

on the team, Like we try to encourage each other. While

6:24

I've been out, I'll have been encourage him to the Bestie

6:27

Canada to fit in and shoot, and um, you

6:30

know he's old. I

6:32

was just so

6:37

just be young. But

6:42

people don't understand like your journey, Like we were

6:44

having this conversation earlier today, like people

6:47

don't like I was the fiftieth pick, but you

6:49

know, yeah,

6:52

the Anthony was the forty six pick. I don't know what year,

6:55

twenty eighteen and you

6:58

got drafted by Houston whatever,

7:00

it didn't play out, you got traded to Phoenix,

7:03

played one year in Phoenix, then got traded to Memphis.

7:06

Yeah, we're using Phoenix one nineteen

7:08

games that year, That's what I'm saying. So like he's

7:11

going from I remember that, but I didn't know us on that

7:13

team. His journey has been crazy to

7:15

them. I didn't played my first I didn't play my first

7:17

twenty five games. I was in a suit tie like my

7:20

first twenty five games, just sitting in

7:22

the g Well, I said, yeah,

7:25

thinking like I left college early for this.

7:28

Talk about that, like because a lot of people don't know like

7:30

that mentality, like it's either do or die and

7:33

like, yeah, and you can't pay it because

7:35

if you panic, like you're not going to be your true self.

7:37

But then you double down on yourself and now look at

7:39

you. Yeah. So, like I

7:43

had sixteen workouts coming out of yeah,

7:45

sixteen, I had to I had

7:47

like I had to get in front of people, you know what I mean.

7:49

So I had to make sure everybody was seeing what I could

7:52

do and my ability. Like, but

7:54

going into my sophomore year practice,

7:56

I was killing, like I was killing, like I

7:59

felt good about my game, like I

8:01

can go to the league, like you know what I mean. Like once

8:03

you feel your league games started

8:05

coming in, you like that confidence

8:07

that. Yeah, So when I play,

8:09

I was like, damn, I gotta get in

8:11

front of everybody. Like my agent was like, we gotta

8:14

let people see you. Right up at sixteen teams,

8:16

none of them like I worked for all first round teams

8:19

and like none of them drafted me.

8:21

So like going to the second round, I'm like scared.

8:25

Yeah, over because at that point you're thinking,

8:27

like none of them likes you. Like you know what I mean, Like

8:30

no, but like Boston really

8:32

wanted me. But Robert Williams

8:34

kept slipping in the draft that year, so

8:37

once he slipped to thirty, Boston was

8:39

like, we want them, we need him, so he he

8:41

took my pick and then after that I

8:43

just kept slipping. Yeah,

8:46

put that in context, though, how many workouts is

8:48

normal? I did not. I did zo.

8:52

Yeah he can't kid, yeah, but

8:54

I did. I mean that's

8:57

when you dropped.

9:00

Damn, I slipped. I

9:03

mean I slipped because I shot twenty

9:05

nine percent from the three in college, but only shot

9:07

I didn't shoot like because you wouldn't supposed to three that it's

9:10

because we finally, you know, started

9:12

shooting together. That's really it. But

9:17

no, that's crazy though. I mean I'm just sitting

9:19

here thinking, like sixteen workouts, Like I

9:21

hear people talk about the work workouts all

9:23

the time, and I mean, I

9:25

know you going into those workouts with a mentality

9:28

of I'm guarding and I'm scoring. Man, if

9:30

you go into that, you know in the game, you know, and chopping.

9:33

I mean, I don't know if I'm interrupted, But I want to ask you a

9:35

question about now, because like we

9:37

talk about like I always messed with

9:39

you before games or who you got the guard or you

9:42

know, and uh, your role

9:44

has changed so much from the mythis which is

9:46

great. This is good. So like over here every

9:48

night you're probably gotten the best player. I know you probably didn't

9:51

live it over there, but now you are like primary

9:53

defender on our team. So it's like always

9:55

best with you about guarding guys like Jordan Poole

9:58

and guards like Paul George Org

10:00

and then T. D. McCullum. So like

10:02

what is your mentality going into that? Like I know

10:04

you like I got to stop them and I want to do my best I

10:06

can, but you also got to go on offensive and

10:09

make sure that a big big

10:11

part of your role too. I mean

10:15

I just try to I just try to play a confidence

10:17

like and just be aggressive, like honestly,

10:19

that's this is this is how I've played since

10:22

I started playing basketball, which is crazy. Like before

10:25

like when I was really little and stuff like that, I used

10:27

to boom playing and passing lands and stuff like that,

10:30

and I used to have to run down, jump stop

10:32

you know what I mean, make the layup and stuff. So uh,

10:36

real specific with you

10:38

sound like me over there, man, I

10:41

used to be late. But

10:43

like my biggest thing was just I had

10:46

to work on my shot a lot, you know what I mean. I had to work

10:48

on being on the catching shoot

10:50

because I understand of like I'm not gonna

10:52

have a ball at the time, Like I'm not an offensive

10:56

first type player. So like once

10:58

I got to a point where it's I cast stop playing

11:00

better offensive players. Was like I gotta be

11:02

able to play off the ball, cut,

11:05

move, score without having to do all the dribbles

11:08

and stuff like that and still be effective because

11:10

on the defensive end, it's like, I

11:12

know, I just gotta make it tough, Like I gotta make

11:14

it tough, Like no matter what, you just can't

11:16

get to the same shots that you want to like shots

11:19

you shooting your workouts. Now you gotta shoot

11:21

something else because you don't

11:23

realize how much people don't like

11:25

those shots now, Like they just like I want

11:27

to get to this spot, but now it's like they can't get

11:29

there. They start thinking,

11:31

yeah, yeah you got once you got

11:34

an offensive guy. I'm you know, I'm moving

11:36

an offensive guy, but join

11:38

the club. Yeah, But but I

11:40

know what you mean though, Like once you have them thinking and

11:43

they know that you're you're chasing. They know that you're going

11:45

to be defending all night. That's when they start

11:48

turning the ball over. That's when they started. People

11:50

don't want to play exactly like people would

11:52

just be out there exactly. But he's

11:54

messing up offensive players rhythm. Like there was

11:56

one time we were playing. I'm not gonna get into a specific

11:58

expense. I was guarding in someone and he was

12:00

like, let me guard them for a possession. I'm like,

12:03

are you sure? Like they're like bigger than He looked

12:05

at me, like come on. So this

12:07

person was trying to say,

12:09

like I got it all right, you know what I mean. So this

12:12

person that we were, you know, playing against,

12:15

was able to just dribble the ball, get the rebound, dribble

12:17

the ball, and he literally made

12:19

them literally pick up their dribble as soon as

12:22

he like pressured them. And I was like, I

12:24

thought he was gonna get me in trouble for switching my

12:26

match up on them. He literally did a better

12:28

job than I was doing on them. And that dude

12:31

was like six nine, you know what I mean. And

12:33

it's just I guess it's a similar fact where like you

12:35

know who you are where being like self aware

12:37

in the NBA is the biggest thing because at

12:40

the end of the day, like I'm sure there's more skilled people

12:42

than all of us, but if they don't, yeah,

12:44

if they don't know what their job is, they're out here shooting

12:46

in the dark and doing the wrong things. And that's when you look

12:48

super foot half the time. Like, bro,

12:51

just a lot of people don't understand. Like, Bro, you get

12:53

to the league. Bro, you got a job, and do your job

12:55

until you get a bigger job, until you get a bigger role,

12:57

and just keep moving up. Bro, just keep It's

12:59

too much money out here, Like like,

13:02

bro, are you trying to once you get that

13:04

first contract to take

13:07

a breath? Yeah? Bro, yo, game

13:09

could change your life, you know what I mean. It's just you

13:12

could take a breath. And it's like you got dudes

13:14

like Tyrestas about to come

13:16

up on who knows man

13:19

a lot of a lot of chicken. But you

13:21

know what I mean. But he stay,

13:24

He stayed, what he put into work, he did his

13:26

job, and it was just like now you see, it pays

13:28

off. It may take a little bit longer, but it pays off.

13:30

And you say, it's not about being the most

13:33

skilled necessarily, and all three of you, separately

13:35

prior to this conversation have talked

13:38

about not necessarily being the

13:40

most talented or most skilled or flashiest,

13:43

but you've all worked into the roles that

13:45

you have now despite whatever your

13:47

limitations might have been or might be. So

13:50

how proud of How proud are you

13:52

guys, of yourselves and of each other, knowing

13:55

that you've all taken that similar path. You

13:58

know, I'll start off of that, And I think the biggest thing

14:00

I think we all share that is like I

14:03

think we all believed in ourselves and the hard

14:05

work like never wavered, Like there was never a moment

14:07

where we felt like anything was going to be

14:09

given to us. And I've only been around these dudes

14:11

like a year to two years, But when

14:14

you see someone that knows how to like grind,

14:16

how to like work hard and had to like go

14:18

through some things to get to what they want, that's

14:21

kind of like something that brings you all

14:23

together. And I think that's one commonality

14:25

that we share. Like, sure, if Tyrese isn't

14:27

a six seven guard, but he plays like he's

14:30

six seven. You know, Anthony may not be

14:32

the most athletic guard, but he's guarded the most

14:34

athletic dudes, And I think

14:36

it just shared commonality where it's

14:38

like, yeah, people have may not believed

14:40

in us, but you know, like you were saying, you just double

14:43

down, like continue to work and eventually it's

14:45

going to pay off. And I think the hard work just never wavers.

14:48

We talk about it a lot though, right because most people that listen

14:50

to this type of podcast aren't in the NBA.

14:52

Right, But what are the transferable lessons

14:55

that you guys have learned that people that listen can

14:57

understand? And at least for me in my line

14:59

of w work, Like I'm not the most talented person.

15:01

I'm not the tallest, longest legged

15:04

girl out there, right, but I work.

15:06

You think you're the most talented. Yeah, thank you, George.

15:09

But I had to work really hard to get to where I am

15:11

too. And so when I hear you guys talk about that stuff,

15:13

I can take that into my life and I can give

15:15

the same advice to someone who doesn'tthing totally different.

15:17

And so when I hear you guys talk about that, I

15:19

find it very inspirational. Thank you, No,

15:22

that's facts, because I mean, like, especially

15:24

you can see other people like working

15:27

hard and that can motivates you. Like when I first

15:29

got around this dude, I'm like, man,

15:32

he up early,

15:34

you know what I mean, triple

15:37

So like it's just you see other people like and

15:39

you see when they hard work payoff, It's like, yeah,

15:44

you know what I mean, make you want to go even harder.

15:46

It's like you see he shot this many

15:48

and then he's shooting this in again anywhere. He doing

15:51

this and then he do that, you know what I mean. So

15:53

like that type stuff is just it's just motivating.

15:55

And then I think one thing I'll said about this

15:58

group that we have right here in this is,

16:00

um, we motivate each other really

16:02

really well. Like, um, we

16:04

we get hype off of each other's success.

16:07

Like I think, maybe I don't remember a

16:09

couple of games ago. It's a slow game.

16:11

I remember slow game. Stars aren't

16:14

playing as great as you know, they don't be played. Um,

16:17

you know, the bench unit didn't play great coming

16:19

in and when their little spurt came, but

16:21

when they came back around, Um, George

16:24

goes in the game and I always tell George,

16:26

George, what are you here to do? Like we

16:28

had this conversation like when I was hurt We had this conversation

16:31

to the bench before what are you here to do? And I'm

16:33

here to shoot? And he missed. Yeah,

16:35

he missed the shot, and the next shot he kind

16:38

of pumped aaked and got scared. Then the time

16:40

I came and yeah, this

16:42

is serious. Has been like a team

16:44

man, all three of us. I came

16:47

to George and I said, George, what are you doing?

16:50

What are you here to do? Yeah, and stop, yeah,

16:52

stop stop wasting our time. And he goes back

16:54

out there and he hits what three four threes in the

16:57

in the second half and breaks the game open in

16:59

the same way Melt. Melt had a

17:01

rough shooting night one of these games and made

17:04

like zero going into the fourth. Coming

17:06

to the fourth hits I'll say, keep shooting, dude,

17:08

like it doesn't matter, Like it's what you do. Like he hits

17:11

three big ones in the fourth and we win the game. So it's

17:13

like to build a lean on your brothers

17:15

to be able to, you know, motivate each other. I think

17:17

that's one of the biggest things that that

17:19

we've brought in that you've also brought coming into

17:21

this team. And you know, we can really just say we appreciate

17:24

you four, honestly, yeah, And I think Danny does

17:26

a good job of doing it in a lighthearted world. Like me

17:29

and Terrise always have this thing, you know where we talk

17:31

about, you know, we're forty percent from three and I

17:33

remember in practice early on, I missed the three

17:35

and d Anny was like, dang, it'd be nice

17:37

to have a forty percent three point shooter, you

17:40

know, Just funny stuff like that where

17:42

you're like, yeah, you know what I do need to step but

17:46

he's still gonna pass you the ball. And you know, every

17:48

time I believe in you, And I think that that

17:51

goes a long way when you have you know, you

17:53

when you're in the game and you're realizing you're not just letting

17:55

yourself down, but you know you're letting the people around

17:57

you down, and that makes you want to go even harder, work even

18:00

harder, continue to be great. And I think

18:02

that's a commentati that you know us

18:04

three share and you know this, this whole

18:06

team shares in this locker room. What was

18:08

it like to play on Christmas? Was it anyone's first?

18:12

It was mine? Ye didn't look like

18:14

it. Tyreses

18:18

Man, He's like a missed I had

18:20

these sentiment tost crunch shoes last

18:23

year, Right, we didn't play on Christmas

18:25

last year? What about you before

18:27

that? And

18:32

that's sick, I mean really

18:35

that crazy. Anyways, what man

18:38

that was? That was the most jumping, jumping

18:41

environment that I've been in. And do it on

18:43

Christmas and then when you get back to your phone in your

18:45

life facts,

18:49

I mean, just like when you wake up

18:52

and you see like NBA on you

18:54

see Christmas games and stuff like that, you

18:56

know what I mean, you see the whole production and

18:59

all that stuff you said, a commercials

19:01

and advertisements, so to

19:04

finally play in it and like like

19:06

what Doc said, it's like you could play

19:09

on here like it shows, like you know what I mean, you deserve

19:11

to be here and you can show your skill and stuff

19:13

like that. People want to see it on Christmas, the

19:16

biggest day of the year, and it's like, damn, that's

19:18

crazy, Like you

19:20

know what I mean, that big putting respect like that. I want

19:22

to Philadelphia seventy six is playing

19:25

dude Madison Square guarding them back

19:27

like they want me to, like they trust me to

19:29

win a game and stuff like that too. So it's

19:31

it's just crazy, like two kids and stuff

19:33

watching too. Just because this is an audio

19:36

only, I have to describe the face that Terrese

19:38

was making while we're talking about so

19:42

sad. Well, you know what, though, I want to say

19:45

this though I didn't make a lot of trips because

19:47

I was hurt, but being able to be there and just

19:49

like be a part of it was was the best, you

19:52

know for me. Honestly, I know I wouldn't able to play,

19:54

but just be able to see how like y'all

19:56

being happy, y'all being turned like, you know, how

19:58

sad I would have been at home, like just

20:01

watching Watchink y'all, I've hagically

20:03

won, there's been a turn up

20:05

with y'all, Like that's like the best feeling.

20:07

But because you were sad, I'm gonna give d Anthony an opportunity

20:10

to fill your cup a little bit because you were when

20:12

you were out, you were off the road for a large

20:14

chunk of time. And for those that don't know, and people

20:17

like to hear about this stuff, I know everyone he already knows,

20:19

but people like to hear about the fact that, for example,

20:21

d Anthony and Terry shoot together after practice, after

20:23

shoot around, every game and

20:25

d Anthony the whole time Terries was out.

20:27

It's going over to the basket by himself, kind

20:30

of looking around. But

20:37

what because

20:40

he was sad just a second ago? How much did

20:42

you miss him? And how good is it tappened back? Man? They took

20:44

my dog. I was like, man and ain't

20:47

the same. And you know they adopted

20:49

me into the academy too. What's

20:51

the academy? Tell people it's the it's

20:53

the head haunch right here. So he's so

20:56

I don't even know why we so my rookie

20:59

year, I wasn't playing as much at the beginning

21:01

and spent what it is my player

21:04

development guy, and like I

21:06

was, I was making jokes because he would have me running

21:09

and playing one on one and trying to basically

21:11

just trying to kill me in the workout to keep my condition

21:13

up. And I was like one day I was walking out like,

21:15

man, I'm tired of coming to the cab. Man, I'm playing

21:17

the real game, and so like everything. Then

21:19

we just started calling at the academy and then I study.

21:22

He was like that, so

21:27

now so now it's like so now as soon as we

21:29

drafted, I promised you atonely drafted

21:31

milk. You know, because I'm still working out. You

21:33

know, the next day, I'm coming into the gym six yo,

21:36

I'm talking to Spend. He said, we gotta get melted

21:38

in that. I'm like, I'm

21:40

like, you're right, I like we do gotta

21:43

give him milk with me. He's like, yeah, we're gonna start

21:45

working on off the drib with three. So as he gets here and

21:48

we got there, started working on off with three. But I mean

21:50

to have somebody like, you know, who

21:52

can just flow right in like that like milk,

21:55

and you know, even sometimes g kind of

21:57

comes in there like you know, too many dribbles

21:59

for Georgia Academy is like when

22:01

you just like come together and

22:03

we start working at like we do shooting

22:06

drails, we play. We played a shooting game, um

22:09

before like before after shooting.

22:12

I mean, and I

22:14

ain't gonna lie the

22:16

record. The record ain't too good right now. Who's

22:20

being who tres We don't

22:22

need to talk about winning. And let

22:25

me tell you this, when Tyrese gets

22:27

rolling when he's shooting, he does make

22:30

like a bunch in a row. And even I'm

22:32

like, hen like I can't it's wild.

22:35

Was Toronto? What was your reaction to watching him in Toronto?

22:38

Oh that was that was immaculus,

22:41

Yeah, Berserd,

22:43

And I think the part was he was just popping

22:46

off two years it was too like

22:48

Yeah, and then there's one where he got a stealing

22:51

you know, Tyrese running around, bump into

22:53

someone, shooters lay pulls up for a man

22:57

like you know this games

22:59

like that, like we lose

23:01

to them, and uh, you know we played them

23:03

in the playoffs. You know, we played in the plaoffs. And when

23:05

you played a team, you know about this, y'all playing

23:07

at the War's son, like when you yeah,

23:10

when you play a team so many times,

23:12

you play a team so many times, like you

23:15

really like it's it's a part in your

23:17

heart that you don't like them, Like it's not it's

23:20

not because that you don't like them as people are, just because you're

23:22

tired of seeing them so like to see them

23:24

get a hype and you know, get so excited about

23:26

them beating us in a you know, which

23:28

was a cruiser part It was one and four. So like

23:31

we needed to be we need to win the game for our

23:34

team and for our like morale of the team

23:36

and to be able to go out there and all of

23:39

us to win a big game. Like that without the big

23:41

fella was you know, it was amazing

23:43

and then you know, we was all happy about it. Yeah,

23:45

I remember that game really well, and I remember Terrise

23:48

you did media following the We were out

23:50

there for two games, right, and Terrise you did media

23:52

after the first one. Or you spoke

23:54

to reporters in between games and you

23:56

talked about how badly you wanted to be able to help

23:58

flip a switch. And then it was so cool to see

24:01

you do it, really, just flip

24:03

the switch and be that guy

24:05

that you guys are now describing. And George just said

24:07

it. You were running your mouth more

24:10

than I personally have ever seen you do so

24:12

in that game, and I'm just curious. I know

24:14

you can hold your own, but has George

24:17

taught you anything in the talk

24:19

department? He's

24:22

his own man. Yeah, he was trash

24:24

talking before he knew me. And

24:26

I think the funniest thing is, I

24:29

don't want to say like I've brought it out

24:31

of him, but like getting him, getting

24:33

him going the way when he starts to talk. He knows

24:35

how to talk. Trash should have nothing to do with me. You're known

24:37

for it, and you're known for It's

24:40

different though. It's different though, because during

24:42

that time of the year, Like think about

24:44

what we are now, you were rolling, We're bawling

24:46

right during that time of the year, everybody's

24:49

kind of us out, like we have no room to talk to

24:51

what I'm saying, we're playing five played five

24:54

games, and we got we added people like Dmail,

24:56

we added mind trains, we had the house. We got

24:58

it tough. That's four guy in a rotation,

25:01

so it's not going to be easy to add. Just bring those

25:03

guys there, don't matter how much talent you have. So

25:05

at the time, my mindset and my mind frame

25:07

was like, I know, we need to win this game. And I

25:10

was trying to do whatever I could in my power to excite

25:12

my team and excite you know, us as

25:15

a group, to get them morale back where they

25:17

needed to be. And because at the end

25:19

of the day, the NBA is extremely hard and

25:22

you only have you only have each other because

25:24

like we see each other every day. Uh, we like

25:29

we can, we can fight, but the next day we right back

25:31

with each other. You know what I'm saying, Like we could lose, but we

25:34

gotta we got to lead on each other. So that

25:36

was really my biggest thing. I just wanted to get, you know, the guy's

25:38

hype and the guys back together. I think we

25:40

went on a little three game winning streak and I

25:43

think that that kind of helped us in the

25:45

long run. So now you know we're here and nobody's

25:47

talking about it starting winning for me, So I

25:49

forgot we did exactly well. I'm

25:51

glad we could forget about those

25:54

days, thank thank goodness. Those were something

25:56

that was dark. It got dark. I

25:59

got dark. It was talking foul

26:01

on our names. Watch

26:04

that, but they was talking filthy. Before

26:06

we wrap up, I want to talk about one more

26:09

topic. Um. Before we started

26:11

rolling, you guys were all talking about your mom's

26:13

and I know how close you are all with

26:15

each of your moms, and a lot of moms

26:17

listen to this podcast, so I was thinking maybe we'd

26:19

have a moment for moms. Your mom's were all

26:21

at the Christmas game and the Anthony.

26:24

You've talked a ton about the supporter she's been for you.

26:26

So moms, I

26:29

love my mom. Yeah, started

26:31

starting off, started, I mean I could do that,

26:33

you know, I

26:37

said it right then? My mom willna get on me. So my

26:42

mom like my mom, like she

26:45

says, she's still twenty five. Like you know what I mean, So

26:47

my mom always gonna be she always gonna

26:49

be turned like my mom up. She loves

26:51

sports, you know what I mean, Like Christmas, she can she

26:54

ready to sit there on the couch all day and just have

26:56

some wine and just watch basketball. Like that's her

26:59

ideal day, you know what I mean. So just

27:01

the fact that I've made it this far and done

27:03

this far, like man, she there too, like

27:05

she she ready, She loves it. She's

27:08

she go hard for all her kids. So it's

27:10

like, um, she's ready

27:12

for whatever, and she she loves all this. She

27:14

loves it. Um, she loves seeing you know,

27:16

other people. She love seeing other people's parents and everything

27:20

they got going on, just seeing the players, and

27:23

so you know, she's super supportive and whatever

27:25

I want to do, she's right there with me. No.

27:28

I think the commonality with that is, you know,

27:30

alter it from you know what I've known about you

27:32

know, the Anthony's mom and Terrison, well you

27:35

know my mom is that you know, it seems

27:37

like all of them were willing to give up everything

27:40

that they had to make sure that we achieved our

27:42

dreams. And I think that's why you know, we

27:44

cherish and take everything that we have so

27:47

seriously because so many people,

27:50

you know, including our moms, you know, have

27:52

supported us to get to this point, and how would

27:54

it would be tragic, you know, for us to to

27:57

let them down. So I think I don't think any of us

27:59

take our days, you know, for granted

28:01

and try to give everything that we have to maximize

28:04

our potential an opportunity because

28:06

you know, they sacrifice so much just for us

28:09

to get here. And you know, my mom

28:11

has been a spearhead of you know, my development

28:13

as a man, and that helped me get to where

28:16

I am today. So thank you, mom. If

28:18

you're listening to Mama,

28:22

yeah, talk about Denise

28:24

Tyree's come on. Yeah, you know I

28:26

appreciate my mom for the same reason that y'all

28:29

you know, both things said. Both of you guys said,

28:31

Um, I will talk about this though. UM

28:34

My mom wasn't as she loves

28:36

me for sure, but my mom was

28:39

no, no, seriously, but my mom was was tough. You

28:41

know. My mom was tough for me and when I was, when when

28:43

I was young and still this today. And I

28:45

think that's that's one of the reasons why, Um,

28:48

I worked so hard and one of the reasons why I

28:51

don't need any how do you say this, I don't

28:53

need any motivation, outside

28:55

motivation or anybody to to to like

28:58

give me any pity about it. I just

29:00

feel like my mom made me so tough. Like with mom

29:02

and my dad, honestly, both of them, they

29:05

you know, they expected greatest out of me,

29:07

and they expected me to do a good things. So, like, you

29:09

know, George always makes this joke my mom

29:11

and dad they were sitting like cour side

29:13

in LA and uh, it

29:16

was just one of those games where like I had like ten

29:18

straight and George's up on a bitch hype.

29:20

And after the game he was like, bro, I looked

29:23

over at your mom and dad and like your

29:25

dad was like just sitting there with an arms cost He wasn't

29:27

like screaming une of your mom was just doing this little

29:29

clap, no excitement.

29:32

Locked in how they are. I was like, that's

29:34

just how they are, man, That's how they been, and like they you

29:36

know, they expect great things and you just have to

29:38

really appreciate. The one thing I would say before I've

29:40

done like what George said, is my

29:43

mom and my dad didn't have a lot of money

29:45

to do what they did. They they scrapped

29:47

up money. They sacrifice a lot of different

29:49

things. All I remember is I drove from

29:52

Dallas, Texas to Vegas in a

29:54

car filled with nine people

29:56

that sat eight people to

29:59

afford me to play basketball, and uh,

30:01

you know, my mom says it was times

30:03

that uh you know, we had to sleep in the car. They

30:06

said, we just slept in the car for for um

30:09

not I mean on the road show, we slept in the car instead

30:11

of getting the hotel because hotel

30:13

costs money, you know what I mean. So like, I just

30:15

really appreciate them for that. And you know, they sacrificed

30:18

everything, and they worked extreamly horror for their

30:20

kids and myself included. I've

30:22

had the pleasure of seeing your mom's from

30:24

Afar watch you guys, and I know what you mean about Terris's

30:27

parents. They're a little less like demonstrative,

30:29

but all three of your moms are very proud of you, and it's

30:31

very clear. I just saw that Christmas special. Uh

30:35

who was it last year? Was

30:39

this year? Last

30:41

year? Yeah? I was watching that. I'm like, oh,

30:44

I look a little tires family, you know what I

30:46

mean? Two

30:50

years old Anyways,

30:53

moving on. Yeah,

30:58

Hi, Lauren's mom, that is true. But

31:00

yeah, yeah, you better give a

31:02

shout out. That's missus Rosen, Missus

31:07

Rosen. Yeah, I

31:09

apologize. Um, okay,

31:12

should we do our last our finals

31:14

our final segment? Last year it was, um,

31:18

we would ask our guests, you know, if you

31:20

had advice for your younger self, what

31:23

would you tell yourself? But we're not doing

31:25

that this year. This year we have

31:27

a question. You know, what moment in

31:30

your life slash slash

31:32

career, what's something that you're that

31:35

you're proud of, Like for example, my

31:38

my my something that I would be proud

31:40

of would be, um that

31:43

I was in the league and got to

31:45

be able to to buy my mom a car. It

31:48

doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't have to be about basketball. I

31:51

would prefer that it isn't about pas uh.

31:56

I mean I'm proud

31:58

of by my mom

32:00

my house. Like my mom got her own house, My mom

32:02

got her own cars, like my

32:05

sisters they both got their own cars. Like I

32:09

mean, I'm happy for whatever I can do, you know what I

32:11

mean? For my family, Like I know they'll always

32:13

be straight. Like basketball stop

32:15

today, I'll be straight for the rest of my life,

32:17

you know what I mean. So I'm just happy for

32:20

all this, all this stuff I've done. But there's

32:22

so many people that are way older than

32:24

twenty four that'll never know what that feels like. Yeah,

32:27

what does it feel like to know that that what

32:29

you just said, they're set because of what you did.

32:32

I mean, it feel good, I mean, if well, it feel better

32:34

than good. But at the same time, it's like I

32:38

knew this is what I wanted to do, Like you know what

32:40

I mean, I knew early

32:42

and as you know what I mean, as a kid that like I made up my

32:44

mind that like I just want to provide for

32:46

my family, Like I just want to get paid to

32:49

provide for my family. So basketball,

32:51

football, it didn't matter what I did. It was like,

32:54

I know that's why I wanted to do. And buy my

32:56

mama's house was one of them, you know what I mean, So on one

32:58

of the first things I wanted to do. So once

33:00

I got to do that early, you know what I mean. Uh,

33:03

I was like probably after my bought

33:06

mind and bought right after that about her. So

33:08

I was like, let me just knock this out, you know what I mean, get

33:11

what you on and just boom, you can handle

33:13

it. So that's probably one of my most

33:15

best consequints. Neighborhood

33:17

hero. Neighborhood hero, what's

33:20

something you're proud of? You?

33:23

You're a repeat customer, so last year

33:26

you did your younger self.

33:28

Now you have to do what you're proud of. Um. I'm

33:33

proud of I'm proud of how

33:36

my family has handled.

33:40

Um a lot of different life changes

33:42

that make sense, like they're

33:45

just because my life has changed me, their life has

33:47

changed as well. Like my little sister, I'm proud of her

33:49

because, um, she has

33:52

created her own her

33:54

own name for herself and growing

33:56

up it's i mean, not trying to my own

33:58

home, but it's it's it's hard for her to go

34:01

through the same district, school district

34:03

and someone who her brothers played in the

34:05

NBA. So I'm proud of her. She made her own her

34:08

own route. My oldest sister, same thing, UM

34:11

she has. You know, she's a single mom.

34:13

Super proud of her. She takes care of both

34:15

of her kids, her twin

34:17

daughters. I'm proud of that, My mom, my father,

34:19

I'm proud of all of them, just how they've handled this entire

34:21

situation. I really just appreciate them for it. And

34:25

just to pick you back off with Danny said, to be able

34:27

to provide for them on Christmas, to

34:29

see all their happy faces, get them you know

34:31

what they want to know. Christmas not about giving, but for

34:34

them to be around and provide meals

34:36

and provide a roof over their head and in safety

34:38

for them. That is the one thing that I'm extremely

34:40

proud of. Guys.

34:43

That was beautiful. Terry, thanks for coming

34:46

back, Thanks

34:49

for showing up, do Anthony,

34:51

thank you for stopping by. Terse. You

34:53

have a future and podcasting, my man, and

34:56

appreciate you coming by to be a co host. And

34:59

with that being said, you know the first episode

35:02

of season two of The Big Niang Theory.

35:04

That's a rap. Thank you guys for joining us. You

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already know what it is lang Lang Niang

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