"It doesn't do me any good to try to struggle to the surface until I've touched the bottom. If you don't let yourself go to the bottom where you can actually find your feet, it's hard to know which way is up.

So, part of it for me is allowing myself the full sink, allowing myself to fall apart."

Welcome to the first interview of The Spilling Stories, a special series dedicated to abandoning the idea that we need to hold it all together and showcasing the grit it takes to allow ourselves to spill over.

These are stories of resilience, of ordinary women who are willing to let their grief take up space, so that it can serve their greatness.

In this episode, Sarah invited her wife Becky to the mic to talk about all of the spilling over that has happened in their home, in their marriage, and with their kids during the early days of the pandemic in the United States. Becky works with this metaphor about slipping into her sadness, but having to go all the way to the bottom so that she push off from there and know which way to swim to find the surface.

It is beautiful. And it’s just the beginning of the stories we will share here in this place.

Stay with us.