0:00

When someone wants to send you crypto or an

0:02

NFT, it's silly to try to tell them

0:04

your wallet address. Oh, you can

0:06

send them to 0X5C capital

0:08

B349K capital.

0:11

You get it within s domains.

0:13

You've got a simple identification for your wallet

0:15

that can receive your crypto. It's

0:17

decentralized and empowering.

0:20

We'll talk today with Corey Whitaker of

0:22

NS Labs so you can understand

0:24

why having your digital identity in short

0:26

form is important and how you

0:28

can too. It's Innes

0:31

Yunus and a little bit of weakness

0:33

as we discuss Inis

0:35

on this episode number 686

0:39

of the Bad Crypto podcast Ness

0:41

54310.

0:48

It's missing. Who's

0:50

bad?

1:09

Oh, Trav, it's not pronounced anus.

1:12

It's eons. Mm.

1:15

I was just really grateful that you didn't blurt

1:17

out penis.

1:19

Why would I blurt out it out?

1:21

You said eons and since. And the.

1:24

The pianist.

1:25

I mean.

1:26

Now you play guitar. When you play guitar,

1:28

you're a pianist. You know.

1:30

I left the blurting to you and you.

1:32

You took the bait.

1:34

Totally blurted, I'm the

1:36

blurt, Daddy.

1:37

You're the master baiter. You

1:39

took the master away. Welcome

1:41

to the Bad Crypto podcast show for the crypto

1:43

Curious Crypto serious and those who

1:46

enjoy a little bit of humor, a little

1:48

bit of levity in their crypto

1:50

programming because it's so serious

1:52

out there right now. It's a, you know,

1:54

crypto. BlackRock is coming in

1:56

and they're taking over the world and there's ETFs

1:59

and we're all so serious. And you

2:01

know what? Life is short.

2:03

Carpe diem, Have some fun.

2:06

Yeah. In this episode right here is going to teach you

2:08

or tell you a little bit about domains

2:11

and how you might want to use them

2:13

to connect your crypto

2:16

addresses to this. So with

2:18

that, let's go.

2:23

Distributed digital identity

2:26

on blockchain and in the world.

2:28

This is important stuff we need to be talking

2:31

about. And one company that has been

2:33

leading the way in this space, you know

2:35

them. You might not know them by name,

2:37

but you know them because you've seen their product

2:40

all over the blockchain

2:43

space, especially in the form of

2:46

wallets. For example, Joel

2:48

Cometh is a wallet

2:50

that belongs to me and that is facilitated

2:53

by Ian's domains,

2:55

the website domains we've

2:57

got with us today to talk about all

3:00

of the things surrounding digital

3:02

identity, decentralization and

3:04

the benefits of such.

3:07

Corey Whitaker is the executive director

3:09

at NS Labs. Corey,

3:11

welcome. Corey, I should

3:13

say welcome to crypto.

3:15

Thank you. Thank you. Great to be here, fellas.

3:18

Yeah, I did not get Joel that either,

3:20

but by the time that I come around

3:22

for that, somebody had snagged that that other

3:24

Joel there's only two of us and that other guy.

3:26

Got it.

3:27

Yeah.

3:28

I actually got gold on.

3:35

Well, man, we're glad you're here. And

3:37

why don't you go ahead and let's just. Let's

3:39

talk a little bit about what

3:42

NS is and then we'll talk

3:44

about some of the reasons that this

3:46

is important and how people are using

3:48

it.

3:49

So what is it? What

3:51

it's about? So all of your listeners,

3:53

everyone has been using the Web for for quite

3:55

some time now. The websites

3:57

that we actually go to are

3:59

our IP addresses. 1230.4560.789.

4:04

And did you just hack

4:07

me, bro? Because that was my that was my IP.

4:10

Yeah. How do you know that? Who told you?

4:12

Hey. Hey. Everything is public these

4:14

days, right? Right. So what

4:16

has happened is the DNS system has

4:19

overlaid human readable language on

4:21

these websites so that you can go to Google.com

4:23

instead of the IP address. You

4:26

can go to any

4:28

of these websites using a human readable

4:30

name. Since blockchain,

4:33

the advent of blockchain, all of our wallet

4:35

addresses these things that we're using to connect,

4:37

to, to, to

4:39

web3. These wallet

4:42

addresses are extremely long and it doesn't matter

4:44

what crypto you're

4:46

or what one you're on, whether it's Bitcoin

4:48

or Ethereum, there are these long

4:50

hexadecimal addresses which are

4:53

difficult to manage and

4:55

navigate, particularly for a newbie in a normie,

4:57

you mean you.

4:58

Have it memorized? 0X4B

5:01

Capital C29. Yeah.

5:04

You know, some people have. I'd be interested

5:06

to meet to meet some of those folks.

5:07

If you could just send me some crypto over at 1X294.

5:11

Exactly. Like what? No way.

5:14

This is horrible. Exactly.

5:16

Exactly. Exactly. And that is one

5:18

of the major issues preventing

5:20

adoption, just the complexity of

5:22

our these identities that we're using. So what does

5:25

put human readable names on top of your

5:27

your wallet address so that

5:29

your Joe cometh? And

5:32

when you want to send bitcoin Joe Smith

5:34

recognizes it's on the Bitcoin network sends

5:36

bitcoin to Bitcoin wallet address recognizes

5:39

if you're on the Ethereum network sends Ethereum to

5:41

your Ethereum address. So

5:44

human readable names overlaid on

5:46

the the wallet addresses.

5:49

So let me clarify that real quick. Yeah.

5:51

So you can have multiple

5:53

chains connected to

5:55

that particular one. So you doesn't need

5:57

to have Joe Btcc.

6:00

Joe, that's counterintuitive

6:02

to most folks, but I'm thinking

6:05

if I want to send Joe eath, I'm going to

6:07

send it to Joe Smith. If I want

6:09

to send emphatic, it's probably

6:11

a different address. If I'm going to send him Bitcoin, I'm

6:13

not going to send it to Joe Smith.

6:15

Right, right.

6:16

Yeah. This is something I think

6:18

a lot of people don't realize

6:21

that with your domain,

6:24

you can add your Bitcoin address, your Ethereum

6:26

address, your stellar address, your Hedera

6:28

address, and it functions

6:30

on each of those those chains. So it's not

6:32

just Ethereum. Sometimes I like to call it the

6:34

Everything name service, not just the Ethereum name service

6:37

because we function across multiple chains.

6:39

Logical sense to me then to have

6:41

it as the crypto or something, because

6:43

then it could. Then it's almost like a chain that

6:46

goes everywhere. So let me ask you this. I

6:48

know there's some other chains. Are there some other

6:50

like address stuff out there? Which ones are

6:52

the ones? Is is not the

6:54

only ones the Ethereum names. Is

6:57

that the only one that domains

7:00

supplies? Yes. Yes.

7:01

So that is the only one that we work

7:03

on. The only one that that we developed. And

7:06

again, since it's it's multi-chain

7:08

we think it serves the the entire ecosystem.

7:11

Yeah.

7:12

So when I log into my account,

7:15

I also see a Joel comedically.

7:19

What is that?

7:20

Decentraland. So

7:22

one of the cool things about,

7:24

about Ian's and the protocol

7:26

is that you can, you can take other

7:29

domains and import them

7:31

into, into

7:33

Ian's. So DCL I

7:35

believe that is the decentraland

7:38

domain where people on

7:40

Decentraland are able to use

7:43

Ian's addresses.

7:44

Well, there you go. I did not know that. Did

7:47

what? I have set that up or would they have assigned

7:49

that to me just by connecting the wallet?

7:52

I think you would have to you would

7:54

have to set that up after you create your Decentraland

7:57

account.

7:58

One of the many things that I've done in crypto

8:00

that I don't remember because we've been doing this for so

8:02

many years now, I'm wondering like,

8:05

okay, where's the lost wallet that I've

8:07

forgotten about and I don't even know was lost? And

8:09

will it turn up someday?

8:10

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:12

One of my, one of my questions on this

8:14

is that I have challenges is

8:17

can I, can I connect multiple

8:19

eath to the same wallet? Right.

8:22

Because it's like I have my Twitter handle, which

8:24

is t w t e dubia

8:27

so I have that dot eath, but I also

8:29

own Travis, right? And

8:31

then somebody might not remember, Oh, am

8:33

I going to send it to T.W. or am I going to

8:35

send it to Travis? Right. Dot Eve Which one's the

8:37

right one? Can you connect multiple

8:39

addresses to that same wallet?

8:42

Yeah, you can connect multiple addresses

8:44

to to, to a given

8:46

wallet. Yeah.

8:48

So, you know, for example, I've

8:50

got nifty

8:52

company and nifty showing

8:55

are in the the same wallet

8:58

here, but only one

9:00

of them can be active and point to

9:02

the the actual

9:04

address. Right. Or can either

9:07

of them point to the same address.

9:08

Only one. Only one can be your primary

9:11

name. Right. The primary name for a

9:13

wallet. But you can

9:15

add it to others as well.

9:17

Okay. So the

9:19

whole point of this, besides

9:21

taking complexity out of these long

9:23

addresses, is there's

9:26

a lot more to this than just

9:28

that the simplification, this

9:30

this decentralized digital

9:32

identification. Let's talk a little bit about the

9:34

benefits of that besides

9:37

convenience. Yeah.

9:38

Yeah. So if you think about what we've experienced

9:41

since the advent of of social

9:43

media, right over the last

9:45

20 ish, 20 years, where

9:47

our identities are are owned

9:49

by these these corporate entities, whether

9:52

it's Facebook or Twitter, even

9:54

Friendster back in the day. Right. You log

9:56

into the site and put all your information

9:58

and they own it. And

10:00

if you choose to move to another property,

10:03

another social media company, you lose

10:05

all of your connections. You

10:07

essentially lose your your identity

10:09

and your social graph, your social network.

10:12

One of the cool things about Web3

10:14

in this new phase of the Internet is that you have

10:16

the ability to actually own, possess

10:19

and control a name,

10:21

a marker that connects

10:23

to you, that you own, that you can

10:25

use across multiple properties.

10:27

So with your name or a

10:29

wallet address, you can log into

10:32

multiple properties on on

10:34

web3. And

10:37

it just it's, it's

10:40

just a much more customer,

10:42

individual centric and

10:45

focused way about about doing things here

10:47

instead of being in

10:49

the best interest of the company. Like this is the

10:51

business of the individual you owning your data,

10:53

you owning your name, you owning your identity.

10:56

Well, so so I'm looking at the

10:58

website here and I

11:01

am going through the step by step process of this.

11:03

So you don't necessarily have to use a dot eath. It

11:05

looks to me like I could use a.com

11:07

if I wanted to, but I just have to go through

11:09

a process, find the original DNS

11:12

domain name that I want to import into my NS,

11:15

and then I can actually use that. Like if I wanted to use

11:17

Travis, right, I

11:19

could potentially use that as my address if I wanted.

11:21

Right.

11:22

There you go. It gets deeper. It just deeper

11:24

and deeper with. So

11:26

again, one of the cool things that you can do is import

11:29

DNS names. You see a.xyz.

11:32

There are several out there that you can use

11:35

as an NS name. So that's

11:37

absolutely right. You can import your into

11:39

the system.

11:41

I'm looking for where one does that

11:44

on the site, because

11:46

I own Joel. How

11:48

would I use that as an address?

11:51

Yep. So I can actually.

11:55

So you had a how to do all that offline?

11:58

I'll include that in the show notes because I got a link.

12:00

That's the medium article right there

12:02

too, that shows the step by step on

12:04

how to do that. But I guess the real question would be

12:07

is if he swapped swapped over his

12:09

Joe comm, would

12:12

that eliminate his website? It pointing to

12:14

the website. Now it points to Ian's domains

12:17

or does it? Can you use it as both?

12:19

Yeah, good question. These are these are two different rails.

12:21

The traditional web two rail,

12:24

your.com would continue to function as it normally

12:26

does in the web two

12:28

world and then in the web three world.

12:30

Your would function as an NS name

12:33

being able to log into coinbase metamask

12:35

sending crypto back and forth.

12:37

Yeah.

12:39

So, you know, people who are coming late

12:41

to the game like, oh, my name's gone.

12:44

You know, it's a sadness. I'm

12:46

John Smith. Let's see if it's available. Oh,

12:48

no, that's that's long gone.

12:50

What's you know, what do you recommend is

12:53

the best process for picking

12:55

a name that basically you're going to live

12:57

with? Because this is this is your

12:59

new digital identity?

13:01

Yep. Yep. So there is hope. So

13:03

there are a lot of folks that are actually selling

13:06

names on on the secondary market. So,

13:09

Jill, I don't know if the other Joel

13:11

is going to going to be able to sell you, Joel, or

13:14

if he wants to give that up. But, you know,

13:16

there's a slight chance people will sell

13:18

their their first names. So that's one.

13:21

Secondly, as you mentioned, you

13:23

have the ability to import another

13:25

DNS like a.com or a.xyz.

13:28

So if you have a pretty cool. Com or x, y, z,

13:30

you can import it and use it in

13:33

in web three. So yeah, I'd say

13:35

search the secondary market, make some offers,

13:38

see if you can get the name that you want, if

13:40

someone's willing to willing to sell it. And

13:42

the other is, you know, import

13:45

another DNS name that you may have.

13:48

So is that technically an NFT? Then

13:51

it's and that's this domain

13:53

name. It's technically an NFT. So if

13:55

you you're talking secondary market,

13:57

people would want to go on opensea

14:00

or whatever and then go

14:02

and grab the file or be able

14:04

to, to put the offer on

14:06

the domain.

14:07

That's right. You can go to any of those marketplaces.

14:09

And a native marketplace

14:11

is vision, which

14:14

is another great marketplace where you can search

14:16

and support to find and name

14:19

it.

14:19

Ian's dot vision. Yep.

14:23

Well, let's go ahead and take a look at that and see

14:25

what kind of crazy ians

14:28

dot. Vision.

14:30

Let's see what kind of things people are. Selling

14:34

out here? Yep. Markets

14:36

unleashed. Let's go ahead and just connect a wallet

14:38

just for giggles so that we can get

14:40

in here some.

14:41

Pretty big sales on some of these right here and some

14:43

pretty big offers, like 8.5

14:46

eath for 360

14:49

and an 8.5 eath

14:51

offer for 205. I guess

14:53

people like those those three digit numbers,

14:55

it looks like, huh?

14:56

Yeah, yeah.

14:58

Yeah. Last last year there

15:00

was a big craze around three

15:03

digits names

15:06

this.

15:06

That's kind of a fun thing. You can get lost kind of in the

15:08

old you can get lost down the rabbit

15:10

hole here. Three letter, three

15:13

letter ins. The

15:15

top sale of all time went for 100

15:17

eath. That's at least

15:19

in that particular three digit ones. That's kind

15:21

of crazy. Some of these just grabbing

15:24

your initials and then and then going,

15:26

That's pretty crazy.

15:27

Right?

15:28

So let's talk a little bit about the benefits

15:30

for businesses,

15:32

for corporations and

15:34

how they

15:36

and and the people they serve benefit

15:39

from having in us.

15:40

Yeah. Yeah.

15:41

And I think the the the

15:44

marketplace and use cases for businesses

15:46

are still developing but

15:49

the direction that that I'm interested in

15:51

is helping businesses with

15:53

understanding customers, understanding

15:55

consumers, KYC, KiB

15:58

and and that type of thing.

16:01

So one, I think

16:03

businesses have the opportunity to use

16:05

the subdomain function. So let's

16:07

say you had bad crypto podcast and

16:11

with your fan base, I'm sure you have some

16:13

wild fans out there who would love to have

16:15

a subdomain on your eath that they can

16:17

use, right? So I could get

16:19

Corey to bat crypto podcast on eath.

16:22

So you can potentially

16:24

create subdomains and give them

16:27

to your community, to your to,

16:29

to your customers. Another

16:31

thing that that businesses, particularly in the financial sector,

16:34

that I hope they get into, is using

16:36

the identity aspects of

16:38

eath and wallets for KYC

16:41

purposes. So if you can imagine

16:43

a situation where you

16:46

KYC one time and

16:48

there's a company called Parallel Markets that

16:50

started recently that is attempting

16:52

to do this KYC once

16:55

and then use that sole bound

16:57

token across

17:00

multiple institutions so that you don't have

17:02

to keep giving your information over

17:04

and over and over again to various entities.

17:08

So there are a couple couple ideas

17:10

there.

17:12

And so it looks to me like the domain you

17:14

get the domain, you can register it for one year

17:16

all the way up to ten years. And it

17:18

looks to me like it's way more intelligent to go

17:20

ahead and book it for more years

17:23

because of the gas fees that are involved.

17:25

It looks like it's it's relatively inexpensive

17:27

to to to register

17:29

a domain name for a year

17:32

or ten years. You just you just got to

17:34

pay gas fees in there. So might as

17:36

well get it. What let me ask you this. I guess my

17:38

question would be is what what

17:40

is the grace period on something like this? Let's

17:42

say like, oh, somebody booked

17:44

an domain and then

17:46

they forgot. Is it immediately

17:49

once that day is done, it goes up for sale?

17:51

Or how does how does that grace period work?

17:54

Yep. So as a name is about

17:56

to expire, you'll see notifications

17:58

in the manager app and we've

18:00

recently started to give

18:03

give users an opportunity to get notified

18:06

so that their domains don't expire

18:08

and you lose your your identity and your in your

18:10

ins and.

18:13

Email or something. Is there an email notification?

18:16

Yes. Yes. So we just started working with with

18:19

Fi and there's.

18:22

There's a notification process

18:25

process now and

18:27

there's there's typically a waiting

18:29

period. So your name will expire. And

18:31

there's. It goes into

18:33

this auction period where it starts high

18:36

and and then and then goes low.

18:38

And then you can bid on names after that. But

18:41

yeah, there's definitely lots of notification

18:43

and a grace period. So your names don't just

18:46

go to auction at once as soon as it expires.

18:51

Interesting. Yeah. So

18:53

what do you what do you make of the

18:55

current state of the market here? Timestamp

18:57

This is the June 27th,

19:00

2023, with these Bitcoin

19:02

ETFs being proposed

19:05

by BlackRock. Do

19:07

you think that the

19:09

the surge is going to come early

19:11

or is this just a head fake preparing

19:14

us for the bull run next

19:16

year?

19:17

You know, I hate

19:19

the.

19:19

Personal opinion, not financial.

19:21

Advice.

19:22

Not financial advice, not

19:24

a financial product. But

19:26

I think it's a it's a good signal and

19:29

an interesting signal for

19:32

the longevity of of

19:34

crypto and web3 that these major

19:36

institutions are starting to take steps to get,

19:40

you know, to get into the to get into the game

19:42

things. A very strong signal in terms

19:44

of timing as to as to when things will actually

19:46

pop off and blow up. I have

19:49

no idea. But it's.

19:51

Coming.

19:52

It's coming. And this is definitely

19:54

a great sign. So keep your eyes

19:56

peeled.

19:57

You can feel the pressure.

19:59

Yeah.

19:59

You know what's also cool on these, Joel, is

20:01

that you can also use emojis,

20:04

it looks like. So I have a

20:06

wizard and then the star emoji

20:09

with the, you know, the three little stars dot

20:11

eth with.

20:12

How do you how do you communicate that to somebody?

20:15

Okay, what's where do I send this message?

20:17

Me It's Wizard Stars. Dot Yeah, Wizard

20:19

stars.

20:19

Dot Yeah, There's

20:21

a.

20:22

I actually just wanted to see if I can do it. I did. It

20:24

cost much, but it was kind of funny. I think I was

20:26

doing it for an ancient wisdom, the Wizard project.

20:28

And there you go. You got the little have

20:30

that and that. It's kind of fun.

20:31

There's a company who does that too. That

20:33

that's all they do is the OG.

20:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

20:37

Why not?

20:38

80 my 18. Yeah.

20:40

Yeah.

20:40

Are they using your tech to

20:42

do that?

20:43

No, it's their, it's their own tech that,

20:45

that they're using. Yeah. They're

20:48

not on the protocol.

20:51

Got it.

20:53

So it's pretty interesting. So is there anything

20:55

else about NS that maybe folks should

20:57

know that maybe they don't know that

20:59

you want to want to communicate out there to them?

21:01

Yeah.

21:02

Yeah, sure. So one of the unique things about

21:04

NS is that it's governed by a Dao.

21:06

I don't know if you've talked about Daos in

21:09

in your community or on this podcast, but

21:13

once or twice. All right. Yeah. So all of the registration

21:15

fees go to the Dao

21:18

that oversees the

21:20

protocol, right? Manages the protocol.

21:22

So there is a, an ecosystem

21:26

working group and a public goods working

21:28

group. And these two groups, they

21:31

try to support projects that are building

21:33

on ins and projects that

21:35

serve the public in general. So there's

21:37

a robust grants development

21:40

program happening in the Dao.

21:43

So that's a pretty unique

21:45

feature of the protocol. The

21:47

founder, Nick Johnson, wanted to create

21:49

something that would live on after him

21:51

and all of us. And so creating,

21:54

putting this and giving this to

21:56

the Dao is a way to

21:58

have it live on in perpetuity.

22:01

You know, the only one that I could think of, that's

22:03

some form of competition. And I

22:05

know that you guys are different

22:08

in what you're trying to accomplish is unstoppable

22:11

domains, right? Where

22:13

they're decentralizing the

22:15

the DNS system and in

22:17

a different way. How do you guys view them

22:21

and what are you doing or what are they

22:23

doing that's different from what you're doing?

22:25

Yeah.

22:25

So they're another, another web3 domain

22:28

project. And as you've

22:30

seen, they have multiple, multiple

22:33

domains. While we're just focused on

22:36

dot ETH and then importing

22:39

other DNS names, you

22:42

can also see them reaching out to brands

22:44

as well. So it seems like they're reaching out to brands

22:46

and trying to create web3

22:49

domains for for them to. So

22:51

it's just another, another product, another service

22:55

that people can use in Web3.

22:59

Solar. Travis, last question is to you

23:01

good, sir.

23:03

I have no other questions. I just

23:05

think that it's an interesting process. And I think that,

23:07

you know, if you're you're you're in crypto

23:09

and, you know, you want to transfer

23:12

things easily, having an NS domain name,

23:14

a eath makes a whole lot of sense. It makes

23:17

a makes it a whole lot easier for somebody

23:19

to try to send you crypto

23:21

because, I mean, even you're trying to

23:23

copy that whole long address and oh, you

23:25

messed something up and you missed the it's

23:28

totally screwed. So just having an easy

23:30

to remember domain name, something an

23:32

INS seems pretty handy. Yeah. So thank

23:34

you Corey, for coming on and sharing all about it.

23:36

Yeah, you bet. You bet.

23:38

Yeah. You guys can go right over to Ian's

23:40

domains. This is not paid placement.

23:42

This is where we use the product. We're

23:45

interested in it. You go start right here

23:47

and type in, you know your name.

23:49

Your name might be John Smith. And then you're

23:51

going to find out that, oh, John Smith

23:53

already owns that, but it

23:55

expires September 20th, 2025.

23:58

So, you know, put a notification on your

24:00

your device and maybe you

24:02

end up sniping it from John.

24:04

Well, you do say that it goes into an auction.

24:06

So like typically, how high is the auction

24:08

when it starts like eath

24:11

or how big is he? How big does the the

24:13

auction even go?

24:14

Yeah, I'm not sure how.

24:15

That's I'm curious. Now that's

24:17

spurred another question. It's like, oh, it

24:19

expires on this day and I want it

24:21

And then then really it's sort of like a

24:24

Dutch auction I guess where the high price

24:26

and it gets lower and lower.

24:27

Lower And then yeah, the it

24:29

depends on whether it's like a three digit name, a four

24:31

digit name, five digit name. So

24:34

it varies depending on the name length, too.

24:36

Gotcha. Corey, appreciate you coming on today. Thanks

24:39

for sharing with us, man.

24:40

All right.

24:40

Thank you, guys. All the best.

24:42

Thank you.

24:44

So offline with Corey, we took a

24:46

look at why the bad

24:48

crypto address was

24:50

under my ownership but under

24:52

different management. And we

24:55

figured out together how to do that. And we actually

24:57

we determined that they've got

24:59

an interface issue because you have

25:02

to go into your,

25:04

your, your more tab and under

25:06

ownership, you have to click the send button

25:08

and it's like send, manage, send

25:10

the domain to a different manager or different

25:13

owner. And so we figured that out.

25:15

And now he's going back to his people and say, Hey guys, this

25:17

is an intuitive and so you're

25:19

welcome.

25:21

You're welcome. Yeah. Making things

25:23

mo better. That's one of the things that we do.

25:25

It's one of our. One of our great skills

25:27

is optimizing just

25:30

a weird process. So if you do go buy something on

25:32

a secondary market, we've

25:34

got your domain. You want it. They

25:36

might still be the manager, you'll be

25:38

the owner, They might still be the manager. She got

25:41

on and fix that. But other than

25:43

that, I've never had to do that. I've never bought

25:45

any from the secondary market. I've just been

25:47

able to go in and buy the ones that I want relative

25:49

to my name. I got Travis right

25:52

dot eat and I got to eat. So

25:54

what else do I need?

25:55

Send your crypto to your

25:57

mom.

25:57

Dot e your mom dot eath

26:00

donation. That'd be a pretty funny one.

26:01

Clearly. Yeah. Send crypto to to your

26:03

mom. Daddy.

26:04

Mom. Daddy. Yeah.

26:07

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26:10

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26:27

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26:42

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26:58

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26:59

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27:01

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27:02

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27:05

We appreciate you. We'll catch you on the next episode. Until

27:07

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27:09

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27:11

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