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For several years now, we've predicted that

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a future use case for NFTs is

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going to be in real estate deeds.

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The prognostication has become a reality

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and today we welcome Andrew Zappo

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from Propy Keys to the show

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to discuss precisely how you can

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tokenize a physical address and attach

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an ownership deed to it. ADAPT

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built on the Propy network, we explore

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this current use case for NFTs and

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demonstrate how you can grab your own

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physical address and put it on blockchain.

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It's about to get real with real

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estate on our sponsored episode number 717

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of The

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Bad Crypto Podcast. Oh

1:06

yeah,

1:09

it's getting all real in here.

1:11

The Bad Crypto Podcast currently in

1:13

the early stages of our third

1:16

bull run. I'm Joel Comm. That's

1:18

Travis Wright. You may refer to

1:20

us as Sir or Lord or

1:22

in some cases douchebag, whatever you like.

1:26

Sir douchebag Joel, nice to be on

1:28

the show with you. Good, sir. Mr.

1:31

Douchey McDoucherton, Travis Sins. How

1:33

are you? You know, I just

1:35

as a general note on this, I think

1:37

we're probably now in the mid bull run

1:40

because historically, I watched

1:43

this video last night. This dude is called wisdom

1:45

trades or something on YouTube.

1:47

He's got really, he's got a really soothing

1:50

voice when he's talking but he goes in

1:52

talks about the charts. I found this one

1:54

piece of information so interesting from all the

1:56

previous bull runs. So even the one

1:58

bull run back in the day where it broke

2:00

a thousand and then it took a while

2:02

to go back and then so from the

2:05

time it hits the previous all-time high to

2:07

the time through the bear market when then

2:09

it hits the next all-time high that

2:12

first cycle Nine

2:14

months of bull run happened

2:17

Right until it hit its next all-time

2:19

high before the next bear market started

2:22

So nine months in between when it

2:24

hit its all-time high previously to the

2:26

next all-time high Then

2:28

it went in the bear For

2:30

a however long it was then it

2:32

hit the next all-time high it equaled

2:34

the previous all-time high Then

2:37

it was 11 months of

2:39

bull run From that point

2:41

on then we hit 20,000 right?

2:44

We equal that now it hit that

2:46

bad boy and then

2:50

Once it hits that previous all-time cycle boom

2:52

11 months of bull run

2:54

So we just hit the all-time high this

2:57

month, right? And so that

2:59

means we have either nine ten or

3:01

eleven months of bull run in this

3:03

particular bull run And we're probably early

3:05

because of the Bitcoin ETFs and we're

3:07

just ahead of the cycle Plus the

3:09

having of Bitcoin is not going to

3:12

be as big as it was previously.

3:14

However, there's more demand and less

3:16

supply So it looks to

3:18

me like these next ten months probably through

3:21

the end of the year Joel is gonna

3:23

be crazy, right? I think that you're right,

3:25

you know, here's the one thing I do

3:27

know those things are different than they were

3:29

in the previous We said that last time

3:31

too. It's different this time. Well, it is

3:33

different. It's clear that we can point to

3:35

exactly what's different We have huge demand which

3:38

we only had Manufactured last time

3:40

we have a real use case that

3:43

is demonstrated across blockchain We

3:45

have L2s that are

3:47

fully functional onboarding all types of

3:49

enterprise clients We have the having

3:51

that's happening and we haven't even

3:54

really touched retail yet. This is

3:56

all institutional, you know Investing that's

3:58

happening with these ETFs. This

4:00

is high dollar wealth,

4:04

people that are coming in. So

4:07

the word is getting out. By the way,

4:09

timestamp on this, it is actually the 8th

4:11

of March as we're recording this. And

4:14

Robinhood, I got a notification for

4:16

Robinhood that Bitcoin passed 70K today.

4:19

Now, if you look at CoinGecko,

4:21

it says the high was 69,255.

4:23

But for some reason, Robinhood sent

4:26

out a notification

4:29

saying that it hit 70,000. What it's going

4:31

to be when this episode releases next

4:33

week, because I will be not

4:36

here, is anybody's

4:38

guess, right? We could be back

4:40

down to 50,000. By this time,

4:42

we could be over 80,000. Nobody

4:44

really knows. But we're here

4:47

for the long haul, gang. We're in it to

4:49

win it. Yeah. So I would say I

4:51

might do a couple of shorts on

4:54

YouTube. So maybe tune in on that. Check

4:56

that out if you don't subscribe to the YouTube. What

4:59

was interesting, it did the same thing, though, Joel, it

5:01

hit 69, whatever, and then immediately it

5:03

dropped down to 66. So

5:05

there's some big, there's some major

5:07

resistance right there at that 70,000

5:10

psychological point. And I

5:12

would also assume, you know, psychology

5:15

and big rounded numbers like 100,000

5:17

probably going to

5:19

be another big psychological barrier. So whatever

5:21

we're seeing here on 70,000, we're probably

5:25

going to see that same resistance. And keep

5:27

in mind, this bull run does not just

5:29

go straight up and to the right, it

5:31

goes straight up and then it dips 20,

5:33

30 percent. And then it

5:36

goes up and then it dips 20, 30 percent.

5:38

And then it goes up and it dips 30

5:40

percent. And then the bottom falls out and you're

5:42

like, oh, I'm going to time it exactly right.

5:45

And no, you don't. No, you won't. And so,

5:47

you know, it'd be nice if we could time

5:49

it correctly. But every other time I've tried to

5:51

time it correctly, Joel, the bottom dropped out 40 percent.

5:54

And then I was like, oh, it's the it's the balance.

5:56

And then it dropped enough. The next thing you know, it's

5:58

like, shit, I don't even want to sell it. anything

6:00

now because I've already lost so much. Well

6:03

everybody's got to figure out their own strategy,

6:05

learn from your mistakes and try not to

6:07

make the same ones. You know who

6:09

else is in it to win it? Is the

6:12

people we have with us today a

6:14

derivative of PROPY who has

6:17

been through two bear

6:19

markets and two bull markets and

6:22

has survived and developed PROPY keys,

6:24

has built a real use case

6:26

for real estate NFTs. And full

6:29

disclosure, this is a project that

6:31

submitted an application to us

6:33

to be on the show for a

6:35

sponsored episode and we have accepted them

6:37

onto the show. That means we are

6:40

getting paid for this interview today. We

6:42

always like to let you guys know

6:44

upfront that that is the case. We

6:46

don't let everybody on who wants to

6:48

pay us in tokens or cash or

6:50

whatever. We vet them to make sure

6:52

that we find what they're doing interesting,

6:55

real and something worthy of

6:57

value of passing on to you. Of course,

6:59

as always, it's not a recommendation from us

7:02

for you to buy anything. It

7:04

is a recommendation that you do

7:06

your own due diligence, your own

7:08

research before you make any decisions

7:10

and take control of your own

7:12

financial future. With that said. Well

7:15

that's that. I mean this is a really

7:17

cool use case for NFTs. Right and for

7:19

real estate and you're going to learn about

7:21

it right here. You

7:27

know as we turned the Wayback Machine to 2017 when we

7:29

got into the space and we were

7:32

doing a lot of ICO spotlights, one of

7:35

the projects that came up on our radar

7:37

was a project called PROPY. And

7:39

PROPY was very early

7:42

to using blockchain technology

7:44

for real estate transactions.

7:48

And we saw right away that this

7:50

is a thing that is definitely coming

7:52

our way and we've had since that

7:54

time there have been houses that have

7:57

been sold on blockchain.

8:00

ancillary projects that are coming out

8:02

of this mapping technology,

8:04

blockchain technology, incorporating AI and

8:07

one of them is called

8:09

Proppy Keys and we have

8:11

with us today Andrew Zappo.

8:13

He is the CEO at

8:15

BlockGeeks which was founded alongside

8:17

Dimitri Buterin. You might know

8:19

him as the father of

8:21

Vitalik and this project

8:24

within the Proppy ecosystem has

8:27

launched a decentralized DAP on

8:29

Coinbase's base network and

8:31

allows users to mint digital addresses

8:33

that correspond to physical properties and

8:35

we're going to discover more about

8:37

what that's all about and show

8:39

you some things right now. Andrew

8:41

welcome to the Bad Crypto podcast.

8:44

Hey everyone thanks for having me. It's a

8:47

pleasure. Yeah so when

8:49

we think about Proppy we

8:51

think wow that's a name

8:53

that we heard about a

8:55

long time ago and the

8:57

project has made it through

9:00

two bear markets which means

9:02

biddling has been taking place and

9:05

I think to set the stage for Proppy

9:07

Keys why don't you kind of give us

9:09

the summary of what proppy.com is all about.

9:12

Yeah sure. So well long

9:14

story short I've been helping Proppy

9:16

team back in the day in 2017 with

9:19

their marketing. I was like one

9:21

of the early members at Proppy and then

9:25

back in the day I kind of

9:27

like I had my own doubts frankly

9:29

speaking with like you know most of

9:31

the like successful projects and ICOs early

9:33

on they were focused around like building

9:36

infrastructure for blockchain whereas

9:40

like Proppy was aiming to

9:42

kind of revolutionize this like

9:45

real world of line thing and it was

9:47

just like such a kind

9:49

of long shot I guess that

9:52

like you know like I was excited to

9:54

be part of but you know like I kind of

9:57

like I had my own concerns and like here we

9:59

are you know like what is it, like

10:01

seven years after. And

10:04

the big thing is real. Founders

10:06

have probably kept

10:08

doing all this stuff and it's all real.

10:11

And basically, right now they

10:13

have the network of real estate

10:15

agents. They have their own

10:17

certification system so that real estate

10:19

agents can learn what blockchain is

10:22

and how to transact real estate

10:24

on chain. They

10:26

have some of the very

10:28

first, well, the first

10:31

ever NFC real estate sale,

10:34

like real world assets was with

10:36

Propy. I think back in 2018, if

10:38

I'm not mistaken, they've

10:41

sold the first home on

10:43

like using crypto ever.

10:47

So like basically Propy right now

10:49

is this huge

10:52

ecosystem working

10:54

in this like real world kind of

10:56

market that is still kind

10:58

of due for this

11:02

type of like decentralized

11:04

revolution. We're

11:07

not there yet, but this

11:09

is the actual working platform.

11:12

It's real and like many

11:14

people that I talk to in crypto, they're like,

11:17

like, well, it's a good idea. And

11:19

I'm like, that's not exactly the idea.

11:21

Like it's there, it's a working product.

11:24

Like it's all real. It's not like

11:26

we're not talking about like 10 years,

11:28

like the technology and everything

11:30

is already there. It's

11:33

working, it's real. So that's about

11:37

Propy. And the

11:39

Propy keys is an ecosystem

11:42

project that aims to bring

11:45

1 million addresses on chain. So we have

11:47

like a little kind of more like

11:52

targeted kind of niche where we

11:55

want to act. And basically, we're

11:58

just making, we're just focus

12:00

on gamifying this like real

12:02

world addresses and

12:04

also helping out property with

12:06

like, and we can talk

12:09

a little bit more about that on the way. I

12:12

want to ask about that then. So

12:14

you want to get a million houses

12:16

on property through your tool, property keys,

12:18

which is a dapp within

12:21

the property ecosystem.

12:23

So are you talking about you

12:25

want to find 1 million homes

12:27

that people are selling and get

12:30

them in the ecosystem or 1 million

12:32

home kind of like a truly 0

12:34

Zillow kind of a play? Zillow

12:37

play. Yeah, that's a good one. So basically,

12:39

we're talking about Zillow play where, well,

12:43

maybe I have to talk a little bit more

12:45

about the kind of like this tiers that

12:47

we have. So like tier one would be just

12:49

maintaining an address. That doesn't mean

12:51

that you own a home, but just basically,

12:54

we're talking about this like gamification

12:56

experience. And yeah, that's, that's what

12:59

it is. Basically, you can just

13:01

check there's someone minted Broadway, different

13:03

addresses here. So we

13:06

were building some gamification around it.

13:08

It's just I can't like disclose

13:10

all the details about further developments.

13:13

Right now we're in beta mode.

13:16

So everything that you see like is a

13:18

subject for a change, obviously. But

13:21

what's important here is that like

13:24

we're we're going to be building

13:26

like a whole infrastructure around those

13:28

addresses on chain. So

13:31

that's tier one. And then moving further,

13:33

there's like tier two and tier three,

13:35

which that's where you that's

13:38

where it gets real. That's where like

13:41

you can store your deed on chain

13:43

and make your home real world NFT

13:46

ad assets and basically

13:48

use it as a collateral and just like

13:52

make your home on chain

13:54

liquid in a way. So

13:56

properties takes care of this like first stage.

14:00

So what I want to understand, this

14:02

sounds like there's gamification here because we

14:04

saw a land rush. Right, Trav? There

14:06

was all kinds of virtual real estate,

14:09

whether it's sandbox or a

14:11

decentralized land. And of course, real world

14:13

ones like Upland. What was the other

14:15

one, Trav, that we talked to them

14:18

for a while and they were minting real world? I

14:21

was like Super World or something, wasn't it? Yeah, Super

14:23

World. Yeah. So,

14:26

but this is a game, but it's also

14:29

intended to be practical so

14:31

that if you want to mint your

14:33

deed as an NFT, you can. Right.

14:36

So maybe explain a little bit more about that.

14:39

Yeah. So basically all the

14:41

tiers that people mint, you

14:43

can stake all of them

14:45

and earn pro tokens as

14:48

their word. So

14:50

basically we're

14:53

kind of bridging this in

14:56

this like with this three tiers

14:58

that we've built, we're kind

15:00

of making some type of bridge

15:02

between this like DGN play and

15:04

staking and like something like crypto

15:06

natives, all they can understand. And

15:09

then bridging it back to the

15:11

real world where like for tier

15:13

two, you can just store your

15:15

D. Don't chain and have some

15:17

real kind of proof of your

15:19

ownership, which is coming

15:21

handy in the U.S. where like all

15:24

the deeds are stored in counties that

15:26

are often get hacked. There's

15:29

a 400 million problem in

15:31

the U.S. Just like deeds

15:33

fraud basically. So there's

15:36

like services that help you protect the

15:38

deeds and secure it. But then basically

15:40

you can just do it once with

15:42

us and it's going to just cost

15:45

like a small fee for you. So

15:48

what I'm saying, I guess, is just like, yeah,

15:50

it's like it has like all of the

15:52

components of like DGN play

15:54

staking and just be

15:56

crypto native. And then

15:58

at the same time. you can just

16:00

like bring those assets and

16:03

addresses to the real use. So

16:10

anyone can mint any property doesn't mean

16:12

they own it, right? Yeah.

16:14

And what happens if somebody minted my house

16:16

or something? Like is there a... Yeah. ...you

16:19

on that because they own, they

16:21

have the NFT minted on property,

16:23

but that's my home. And so what kind of

16:25

issues does that populate? So

16:29

basically you can come in

16:31

with your deeds and proof

16:34

that like you own this place. We

16:37

have a team that has all the kind

16:39

of necessary infrastructure

16:41

to check that you're the real

16:44

owner and confirm that. And

16:46

basically you can always

16:48

get your home, your

16:50

address by

16:53

putting the deed on chain. So

16:55

squatting is not a good play

16:57

then, right? Yeah. Yeah. You can't

16:59

squat like the way with it

17:01

works with domain names. You can't

17:03

do that with property keys. We've

17:06

built it intentionally. And basically for

17:08

you, it's just going to cost

17:10

a regular deed on chain fee,

17:13

a hundredth per all, which is like

17:15

equal to maybe like $50 approximately.

17:18

And for the minter, for

17:20

that person that minted your

17:22

home, they're going to get a

17:25

part of the fee that you've paid. So

17:27

they also have some type of incentive

17:30

to mint the address. But

17:32

at the same time, there's like, we're not talking

17:34

about like hundreds, thousands of dollars, you know, and

17:36

like some kind of squatting mechanisms.

17:39

So it kind of makes sense for both sides,

17:41

I guess. So

17:44

as a whole owner, you're protected

17:46

from this. You know, so

17:48

maybe what's, what is

17:51

the outcome you're looking for with

17:53

this project, right? Originally, we were chatting with, oh,

17:55

we're chatting with Propy. They've been around for a

17:57

long time. This is a DAP on top of.

18:00

of property. And so what's

18:02

your long-term goal for

18:05

this to happen and what is the value

18:07

for those who are participating

18:09

in your system? So

18:13

the value first of all is

18:16

the staking, just participation in this

18:18

newly created economy. It's

18:20

not live just yet. We're launching it on March

18:23

13. And that's

18:25

when our app also goes

18:27

public because right now it's in beta.

18:31

So in the long term, our

18:33

mission here is just well bring as

18:35

many addresses on chain as possible. You

18:37

know, we're talking about the millions and

18:40

we're creating the economy for it. So we're

18:42

just hoping that people will be staking it.

18:45

But also there's some gamification

18:47

mechanics that we're developing. We're

18:51

basically looking for ways

18:53

how we can gamify the real

18:56

world geolocations and

18:58

addresses and then tie

19:00

it to the real world kind

19:03

of like protection and just property

19:05

ecosystem in general. When

19:07

I go through the asset browser,

19:09

I see keys and then I

19:11

see world assets of properties that

19:13

are placed on. Then I see

19:15

deeds. These are actual NFT deeds.

19:18

And then at the bottom here, I see

19:20

these meta agents, these PFPs. What are these?

19:23

So these are the certified agents that

19:25

we have that property has. I'm

19:30

not sure if I've mentioned

19:33

but property has their own

19:35

certification courses

19:38

and certification process for real

19:40

estate agents in the US

19:42

to get certified and be

19:45

able to use the platform.

19:49

So these PFPs represent

19:51

real people that are agents. And

19:55

the only way to get one of these is to

19:57

be a certified agent. This is not. project

20:00

that was just off. Yeah, you can

20:02

just mint those for fun. And there's

20:04

no like, it's just a certificate of

20:06

your kind of, certificate

20:09

of you being able to

20:11

use the property ecosystem. Got

20:13

it. So if I connect my wallet

20:15

here, I've got a little pro, I

20:18

need an invite code from you if you

20:20

want to paste that to. All right. Hey,

20:22

try the Allen Field House there in Naismith

20:24

Drive. That is

20:26

I'll try it again. Allen Field

20:29

House. Here you go. This is where the Kansas

20:31

Jayhawks play basketball since the fifties. See

20:33

if that's available. All right. Click

20:35

next. It says landmarks.

20:37

All right. So if you get this

20:39

one, you can send it to me.

20:41

Yeah. So, you

20:45

know, if I'm squatting on a landmark,

20:47

what happens? Right. So,

20:51

I mean, for the landmarks, the

20:55

real owner can still come in. It

20:57

just, we don't think that that will

20:59

be the case in the nearest

21:02

future. Keep

21:04

your hands off Travis's Jayhawks owners.

21:08

University of Kansas.

21:11

All right. So it is minting that right now.

21:14

10 property and what's a property worth? About

21:17

56. 56 cents. Okay.

21:20

Okay. And then we can add flavor to

21:22

this. Yeah, you

21:24

can play around with that. We'll just

21:26

say blockchain for now. Sports flavor. Yeah,

21:28

there's no sports flavor. Okay. Now

21:30

it is minting the land. Oh man.

21:32

So you could have changed the prop.

21:35

Now it's going in and using AI

21:37

to generate an image for it. Yep.

21:39

Yep. That's what it does. Okay. So

21:41

it doesn't do it for regular home

21:43

addresses. It only does it for landmarks

21:45

and we dropped the landmark data

21:48

from the third party

21:50

database. So it's basically,

21:54

we don't know how many landmark AI.

21:56

Is like a really dysfunctional looking Jayhawk.

21:58

That'd be hilarious. Don't wait

22:01

a second. So admitting it without you even

22:03

getting the look at it and improve it, That

22:05

sucks. Because. A lot of ai

22:07

is not good the first couple times. You

22:09

gotta keep. Regenerating. It. Yet.

22:12

Mit the very first time set

22:14

of mug luggage at all. Ah.

22:18

But. It is it is a stadium. Down.

22:21

The Stadium. Else knowing, go

22:23

in here and I can see my mince.

22:25

There it is. I can click on it

22:27

by say that I live people mock up

22:30

one or two and then approve one of

22:32

them. Not just. Created.

22:34

The first time be more tight ends up man and might

22:36

not be gray. The need to go in and fix it.

22:39

I. Would go in and change some words on that. I

22:41

didn't even know that was going to be a ah. That.

22:43

Was the prompt degenerate the image for it. Is

22:47

a suggestion both and put that not. I

22:49

love my sense and I will discuss it

22:51

internally with our product in make it easy

22:53

guess you could generate but pop out for

22:55

pick one you like of that area. Somebody.

22:58

Raymond letter with some of their

23:00

like was no landmarks on but

23:02

basically not all of the landmark.

23:04

The hallway clear kind of. Our

23:07

pictures aghast at a I'm is used

23:09

to kind of about that's me that

23:11

yeah I guess I would assume a

23:13

lot of the big properties are so

23:15

you guys can go play with this.

23:18

it's at Damp.probably eat.com you live around

23:20

I'm going I will go ahead and

23:22

mint up my own home, address her

23:24

to minutes in wanna do it while

23:26

on video and so you guys exactly

23:28

where I live to the know your

23:30

me not going on my door been

23:32

I'm somewhere on the on this island

23:35

right here of upwards I should admit.

23:37

My. Old place that way of the

23:39

yellow one ones use case that I

23:41

had on his then we're all was

23:43

like super like art you know where

23:45

the was this guy who says i

23:48

want to males mint the fall or

23:50

worse by my childhood that doesn't belong

23:52

to me it's our family anymore. And.

23:55

He actually when the has and mean that it. Ah

23:57

that was like super nice. He has. I

24:00

don't imagine like many people doing that but

24:02

that's just a good idea. What

24:05

do you do in my case?

24:08

I own a condo here and

24:10

so there's numbers associated with it.

24:13

I don't think that that's going to work with

24:15

apartments and all right, it just gives the general

24:18

property. No, you can actually

24:20

make a specific apartment and

24:22

then you can choose not to do so

24:24

but then like when the real owner of

24:27

this like place comes then we'll have to

24:29

restructure the kind of that

24:31

ownership for the particular like

24:34

unit. Great. Andrew,

24:36

when you said everything goes live

24:38

on the state on the 13th

24:41

of March which I believe should

24:43

be releasing on that day. So

24:46

you guys can go check it

24:49

out at propertykeys.com also

24:51

dap.proppy.com. It's all right

24:54

there and we appreciate you coming

24:56

on and sharing with us today. Good sir. Good

24:58

luck with the project. So there

25:01

it is. You guys can go check

25:03

that out for yourself. I am busy

25:05

minting up some properties including my own

25:08

home which I think I accidentally sent

25:10

to you Travis. I meant to.

25:12

I now technically own Joel's home. Yeah. It's

25:15

great. I'm

25:17

just copping a squat right here in the crib. You

25:20

got my office Joel, you're in

25:23

my space. I know it. We

25:25

appreciate you guys. It's really interesting

25:27

being out of the cave where

25:29

we are hibernating during the bear

25:31

market and excited for what the

25:33

future is going to bring. In

25:35

spite of the political shenanigans

25:38

happening in the world right now,

25:40

I think Bitcoin thrives in that

25:43

environment because it just reveals to

25:45

people that while the fiat printing

25:47

presses go burr all the time.

25:51

The dollars and the fiat currencies of

25:53

the world are inflated and that

25:55

means what you make is worth less and less

25:57

all the time. Bitcoin solves.

26:00

this gang only 21 million

26:02

ever 19 and a half

26:04

million have been mined and it's gonna

26:06

take way more than our lifetimes for

26:08

the remaining one and a half million

26:10

to come into supply. Yeah I think the

26:12

number I think the the math on it Joel is

26:15

99% of all Bitcoin will be mined sometime in 2034

26:17

then it's gonna take a hundred

26:22

years to mine out that up so these next

26:25

10 years 99% of Bitcoin is gonna

26:27

be done there it is and

26:29

then there's a little trickle the Bitcoin is gonna

26:32

come out that later on down there like how

26:34

much will Bitcoin be worth down the road if

26:37

it all goes according to how we think

26:39

it might go it's crazy to even think

26:41

about where the skit

26:43

where the stratosphere beyond

26:45

the moon beyond the solar system where

26:47

are we going bro we're going apples

26:49

and Alpha Centauri we're

26:52

going to serious right now oh

26:54

all right let

26:57

me put us one more prediction out there

26:59

that by the time that you hear the

27:01

show Ethereum should have easily passed four thousand

27:03

dollars for the first time we've seen it

27:06

creep up the resistance has been just under

27:08

four it's hit 39 98 the all-time high

27:10

in aetherium

27:13

from November 2021 was four

27:15

thousand eight hundred and seventy

27:17

eight so aetherium is lagging

27:19

but of course the talks

27:21

of an aetherium ETF which

27:23

we don't think is gonna

27:25

happen anytime soon but just the

27:27

speculation on it I think is

27:29

going to drive aetherium pretty hard

27:31

soon and I predict that we're

27:34

gonna see a ten thousand dollar

27:36

aetherium this year hmm I

27:38

predict it's gonna be one dollar less than

27:40

what's open thanks for listening everybody we appreciate

27:42

you guys

27:45

will catch on the next episode you know what

27:48

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