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The delicious ice cold taste of Dr. Pepper
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has a lasting effect on people. Lindsay from
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tell us. Oh yeah, I know a thing or two
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about cold. Oh, that right there is the
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perfect kind of ice cold for Dr. Pepper. I'd
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share that with my friend Nancy. She likes Dr.
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Pepper too, you know. My coldest... Alright, that'll
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be all, Sue. Having a perfect temperature for
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your Dr. Pepper? It's a Pepper thing. Inspired
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by Real Fan Posts. Well, we did
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running backs on a Tuesday. It's time
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for a Thursday edition of the Audible.
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We're talking about wide receivers. Same
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old faces and new places. And what
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does that mean for Jerry Judy? Can
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he finally get over that thousand yard
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hump now that he's with the
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Cleveland Browns? Maybe.
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I feel like there's more working against him than for
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him here. I
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suppose what's working for him, Cease, is...
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The Browns are now very smartly dating this
1:02
show and saying that as we hear Jaylen
1:04
Wattles getting 28 million a year. They
1:08
get out ahead. I don't remember the number of
1:10
Cease on Judy's extension, but
1:12
it was like, wow, it's classic. We're paying you
1:15
for what you think you're gonna do, not what
1:17
you haven't done, really, if we're talking
1:19
about Judy as you allude to with a thousand yards.
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The other thing was with Deshaun Watson,
1:24
it seemed like they wanted to carve
1:26
out lots of layups with Elijah Moore.
1:28
And that didn't... Elijah Moore, that's a
1:30
story we could revisit. But it does
1:33
seem like even within Jokku
1:35
and Cooper, there's a role there for
1:37
a third receiver. And maybe Judy could
1:39
be that guy. And look, you can
1:41
speak better to this than I can,
1:44
Cease. But Denver wasn't exactly a
1:46
conducive... a place conducive for hitting your ceiling
1:48
on offense the last few years for any
1:50
number of reasons. So, but I look at,
1:52
on the other side, the limiting factor of
1:55
Deshaun Watson. And
1:57
you very smartly brought
1:59
up... James Winston and the idea of
2:01
well if we start to think of Deshaun
2:03
Watson as maybe a step or two out
2:05
on the plank, who's behind
2:07
him? Who's the alternative after seeing what Joe Flacco
2:10
did? So you know maybe James Winston
2:13
could save Jerry Judy but I don't
2:15
see James Winston's style or save the
2:17
Browns offense. But I don't see
2:19
Winston's style meshing with Jerry Judy. You know I
2:21
don't think rhythm passer when I think of James
2:23
Winston. I think that's much better for a Marty
2:25
Cooper. So it's hard for
2:28
me to see the bull case
2:30
for Jerry Judy but the Browns obviously
2:32
do. Yeah the Browns do
2:34
and we'll see what happens with that.
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We will see when watched with great
2:38
interest this whole Stefan
2:40
Diggs thing. How
2:43
does it work? You mentioned dolman out
2:45
money. How does it work there?
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Of course Niko Collins
2:49
with his deal. But Stefan
2:51
Diggs now in Houston and
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not really replaced by Curtis Samuel
2:56
but those two are definitely tied
2:59
together Blue. Yeah.
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Let's start on the Diggs side because that's the
3:05
more interesting side I think. Because
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what we saw here Cease, it's not just
3:10
a trade for Diggs. And
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again I mean yes the
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Vikings ended up moving up for JJ
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McCarthy and they tried to move up
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for Drake Bay. Maybe tried to move
3:21
up for Malik Neighbors. I don't know.
3:23
Rumors. But
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the trade might have been more about
3:28
Houston getting an extra second round
3:30
pick to get Stefan Diggs which shows foresight
3:32
and attention on the Cassarius part. But
3:34
then in a move that was surprising the most, they
3:38
immediately made it so he basically is playing on a
3:40
one year deal now. It's
3:44
a great signal to the team that
3:46
they're all in this year. I
3:48
mean Super Bowl or bust this
3:50
year. It also
3:52
gives Diggs something to play for. It's interesting as
3:54
we watch these wide receiver contracts roll in Cease.
3:56
I think one of the things that's biggest take
3:59
is the big deal. three-year deals.
4:01
Three-year deals used to be
4:03
when you want your generational security you'd want four,
4:05
five, six year deals. But these wide
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receivers can see no, no, no. I want to be going back out
4:09
into this market when I'm 27, 28 years old. I
4:12
want to double dip when
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the numbers go up. So Diggs is
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gonna get that chance next year and
4:19
the Texans aren't gonna be seen as
4:21
moving on from him after only one year
4:24
even though they gave up a second-round
4:26
pick. But that's probably what's gonna happen
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with Diggs. With Diggs we
4:30
have this first half of the year, second
4:32
half of the year. So just like the
4:34
typical wide receiver story, does Diggs still have
4:36
it? And it's Josh Allen, it's Joe Brady's
4:38
offense, it's some sort of disconnect. Or
4:42
the Bills, when we see this play out
4:44
sometimes, the Bills are smart and getting out
4:46
ahead of the incoming decline that we really
4:48
already saw starting last year. With Nico Collins
4:51
also getting a deal here with Tank Dell,
4:53
also a player on the rise. I feel
4:56
like in fantasy football where you're splitting
4:58
the difference because he was a first-round
5:00
pick last year. You need Diggs. Third
5:03
round now after Nico Collins. But
5:05
before Tank Dell, should that be right, Cease?
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I don't know if that's the pecking order I would have. Go
5:12
ahead, speak on that. Well I'll
5:14
say this, the whole thing about
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Diggs just goes back to what I believe
5:19
will happen with Buffalo is that they're taking
5:21
the ball away from Josh. It's like they're
5:23
gonna run the ball more and you don't
5:25
need to pay Stefan Diggs when you're gonna
5:27
emphasize run the ball more. I do love
5:29
Keon Coleman. I'm not sure if he's
5:31
Eric Moulds. If you want to go
5:33
a Bills flashback. We've been doing the show long
5:35
enough for having Eric Mould talk, right? So
5:39
yeah, I think that emphasizes like we're
5:41
gonna go younger and expecting your veteran
5:43
quarterback to elevate those young receivers. Yeah
5:46
and Samuel will surpass it. I mean at the
5:48
price, you know, he's a bench pick
5:50
in fantasy football. He's worth a shot because it's
5:52
a Buffalo's offense. Curtis
5:54
Samuel, Andrew Brady has played
5:57
well. Some of his best footballs happen
5:59
to be true. Brady as the
6:01
offensive coordinator. So that's good that they go
6:03
out and get him. He can contribute in
6:05
a lot of different ways even as a
6:07
vertical threat, which this offense needs now without
6:10
Gabe Davis. So Khalil Shakir,
6:12
I mean, I'll say this. When
6:15
you look at how the Buffalo offense is
6:17
projected in fantasy football leagues right now, somebody
6:20
is gonna be a screaming value. It's
6:22
up to you to decide which one, cuz we have
6:24
Josh Allen, the number one quarterback, and we know, look,
6:26
it's at least gonna be a top half
6:29
of league offense. It's not gonna be a
6:31
morose, bad offense. It's gonna produce these middling
6:33
numbers. But nobody in this office, even Dalton
6:35
Kincaid, is only a fourth or fifth round
6:37
pick. So you got Dalton Kincaid,
6:40
you got Khalil Shakir, James Cook. That's probably where I
6:42
put my chip, back to what you're saying, Cease, running
6:44
the ball, even Ray Davis. There's
6:47
a lot of choices here in Keyon Coleman,
6:49
going about three rounds ahead of Curtis Samuel. And
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look, I think Curtis Samuel is more
6:55
in a better position this year. Cuz we're asking
6:57
Keyon Coleman to make that transition as a rookie.
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And I think Samuel, three rounds later than
7:03
Coleman, in a redraft lens, I'm gonna put
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my chip on Samuel, all of those two.
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Well, let's talk about the transition with the
7:09
Chargers. I was writing about Lad McConkie the
7:12
other day on the Football Guys News Wire,
7:14
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with this video. Mike
7:23
Williams and Keenan Allen. We're not gonna talk
7:25
about Lad McConkie and well, a
7:27
whole other mess. They got- Right, right, right. But
7:30
let's talk about the two guys they
7:32
moved on from. Mike Williams going to
7:34
Jets, Keenan Allen, of course, catching passes
7:36
from Caleb Williams. When Caleb can complete
7:38
them, it's very odd that
7:41
in OTAs where it's usually like, well, I
7:43
can't believe how great this guy looks. Right,
7:45
right. Trust me, I'm part of that, going
7:47
to watch Bo Nix here in about 20
7:49
minutes. Yeah,
7:51
Caleb's not looking well. But Keenan
7:53
will help him as much
7:56
as possible. The Chargers have moved on, and
7:59
Williams and Allen- Well, maybe
8:01
fantasy gyms will be moving on too. Yeah,
8:04
that's the question, right? Is
8:06
there something here with either of these guys? And
8:09
again, we start with situation. Fantasy
8:12
football choices for the Bears are going
8:15
to be a wide receiver are tough
8:17
because DJ Moore who
8:19
don't you don't bring in Keenan Allen DJ
8:21
Moore as a second round pick as a
8:23
slam dunk. You bring in Keenan
8:26
Allen and draft Roma Dunez. Keenan
8:29
Allen who was elite on
8:32
a PPR scoring level, a
8:34
top three option last year before he
8:36
got hurt. But is he going to
8:39
play that role with Caleb Williams? Doubt
8:41
it. And you have
8:43
these not just Mike Williams who went
8:45
down, but you have to know two
8:47
compelling options outside. You also
8:49
have two tight ends in Cole Comette and Cheryl
8:51
Everett. So I all
8:54
this points back to wow, Caleb Williams could hit if
8:56
Caleb was ready. But like
8:58
what he's saying, well, we're not seeing that
9:00
from beat start yet. So
9:03
it makes you want to just kind of
9:05
move on from everybody in this offense for
9:07
now, because unlike what I was just describing
9:09
Buffalo, I feel like a lot of those
9:11
Buffalo guys except for maybe Dalton Kincaid are
9:13
being drafted closer to their floor than their
9:15
ceiling. But I think most of
9:18
these Bears passing game of options are probably closer
9:20
to their ceiling. Now
9:23
Mike Williams is going to bring in the
9:25
Jets. I almost feel like
9:27
I could do any levels of examination here. But I'll
9:30
toss it before I do any closer
9:32
examination. This doesn't even have to
9:34
do with Aaron Rodgers as much as it is just Jets
9:36
and that they will hack it. Right.
9:39
I mean, how is it something good? I mean, pretty
9:42
tall, I guess. How
9:44
else could something good come out of this? I
9:46
don't think it can. Well, you
9:48
know, you want to talk about putting your chips down. This
9:50
is like, I don't know, double
9:53
zero. Yeah. On the roulette wheel. Like,
9:55
okay, if it hits, it's going to be awesome.
9:57
But chances are very low.
10:00
You know, I continue to be
10:02
fixated on this picture that popped into
10:05
my head recently during a show of
10:07
it's almost like we're interviewing and hiring
10:09
the 32 franchises to develop our players
10:12
or look after our interests. And
10:15
imagine sitting at the table with
10:17
like Aaron Rodgers and Robert Saller
10:19
and Daniel Hackett and Woody Johnson
10:22
and Joe Douglas and like okay, give me your pick.
10:26
Right, so then I will want to draft your players. No,
10:30
I mean, wouldn't it? No,
10:33
that's grandpa Simpson with the walk in the door
10:35
walk. Walk
10:37
right out. Anyone you see Aaron Rodgers and the
10:39
crazy eyes, you know, it's like, no, I don't
10:41
think you're my quarterback. So that's the hard thing
10:43
about Michael Williams. You have timetable. Will he be
10:46
ready week one? How
10:48
effective can he be early on? You know, this
10:50
is again, if you want to believe in Garrett
10:52
Wilson and the Jets in
10:54
general, right? Breece Hall practicing
10:56
on the rehab field, just watch that. You know,
10:59
we just were just looking for breadcrumbs right now.
11:02
Yeah, I
11:04
just it's hard for me to get excited
11:06
about taking any Jets. Yeah,
11:09
period. Point blank period. Let's
11:12
discuss the guy. I
11:14
don't know one that got away. You
11:16
can't really say that, Bloom. They always
11:18
have the money. They
11:20
always have the money. So
11:23
Jacksonville, you didn't want Calvin Ridley.
11:27
What? Like, we praise Jacksonville
11:29
like, oh, my God, they got Calvin Ridley, right?
11:31
What a move. And if it works,
11:33
they're gonna look pretty good. And then it looks pretty good. And
11:35
then they're like, nah, let's
11:38
get Gabe Davis. Now, I did
11:40
write about Gabe yesterday in the four guys newsletter.
11:42
Make sure to like and comment and share it,
11:44
all that. But like Gabe
11:47
Davis, okay? You're
11:49
gonna rely on him? And well,
11:51
now Calvin Ridley has a new zip code
11:54
as well. Yeah, Jacksonville's
11:56
odd. There is
11:58
some speculation that... they were waiting out
12:00
the deadline for the second round pick to turn
12:03
into a third round pick in the trade. And
12:06
then if you're following that speculation, well, you're
12:08
giving other teams a chance to come in
12:10
and make some sort of sweetheart last second
12:12
deal. Is that what happened? Even
12:15
whenever Gabe Davis was signed, Gabe Davis was signed
12:17
pretty early in free agency. Even
12:19
when Gabe Davis was signed, there was a pretty steady chorus
12:23
from the beat writers and national types saying,
12:25
oh, the Jacksonville is still totally in on
12:27
Calvin Ridley. And I can't assume that this
12:29
means that Davis is a Ridley replacement. And
12:31
even the fact that they draft Brian
12:34
Thomas, they do trade down. So
12:36
no, they weren't married to the idea of taking
12:38
Brian Thomas. They were looking to get some extra
12:41
draft capital and they rolled the dice on him
12:43
not going. That
12:45
even seems to say like, well, now we're trying to get somebody
12:47
that we hope can become what Ridley was
12:50
or what we hoped Ridley was going to
12:52
be for us. So
12:55
yeah, Gabe Davis. I mean, as soon as Brian
12:57
Thomas is drafted, even with St. Jones now in
12:59
Arizona, soon
13:01
as Brian Thomas is drafted, you're not really
13:03
that excited for Gabe Davis. I mean, if
13:06
Trevor Lawrence's deep ball is going to unleash
13:08
somebody now, it seems more likely to be
13:10
Thomas than Davis, even though tactically. Yeah. And
13:13
then there's Christian Kirk's there. Tactically
13:16
this makes this offense. The thing about Trevor Lawrence in
13:18
this offense is it's been
13:20
like a horizontal attack. And
13:22
Trevor Lawrence isn't Jeff Garcia or something like that.
13:24
I mean, there's so much more there. And
13:28
now with this vertical element, maybe there's more to
13:30
be unlocked. Your Tennessee is much more interesting in
13:32
the same division, much more
13:34
interesting simply because again,
13:36
I'll keep quoting this. We
13:38
all get tired of hearing me say this map. A taunty who
13:41
has forgotten more about offensive line play that
13:43
I'll never, ever, ever know said
13:46
that Bill Callahan on his scale of one to
13:48
five and offensive line coaches is a six. Okay.
13:51
And that's the problem. Now you
13:53
might say, well, no, the problems will love us. I mean,
13:56
if you think the critical point of failure in this offense
13:58
is will love us, well, then no offensive lineup grades. are
14:00
gonna matter. But if you have an
14:02
offensive line upgrade, you have
14:04
Ridley and Hopkins and
14:06
look, OTA buzz, Tralen
14:09
Burks, at least we can say this,
14:11
Cease, you did
14:14
die delve back into your years of covering NFL.
14:16
At least he gets a fresh start, yeah? Yeah,
14:19
yeah, for sure. I mean, he
14:21
and everybody's saying a lot of positive stuff
14:23
about him. Now this could be part of
14:25
a plan or a program to like build
14:27
his confidence backup or whatever, but that's just
14:29
showing some positive intention there. And you can
14:31
have Tralen Burks in a role that suits
14:33
Tralen Burks instead of miscasting him as the
14:36
AJ Brown replacement. You have the AJ Brown
14:38
replacement in terms of like your ex-receiver and
14:40
so on. So you have
14:42
these three wide receivers, you have Chico Conquo,
14:44
stolen ascending player, you have two
14:46
very good running backs in the passing game in
14:49
Pollard and Spears, and you
14:51
have everybody saying they're gonna pass more.
14:54
Everybody, OTA's coach speak, whatever,
14:57
everybody is saying, players, coaches are all
14:59
saying we're gonna pass more. So
15:03
you know, will Levis, could will
15:05
Levis even have like a Case Keenum
15:07
kind of year or Daniel Jones kind
15:09
of year that is a false positive,
15:12
but because of what they've assembled here,
15:14
you know, they're gonna sneak up on
15:16
opponents because playing Tennessee has not met
15:18
get ready for 45 pass
15:21
attempts. It might now,
15:23
so I'm paying close attention to Ridley,
15:25
I'm paying close retention to this whole
15:27
offense. Yeah, that comes down to can
15:30
Levis grasp it. Right, you know, we'll
15:33
see about that. We know Pat Mahomes
15:35
can grasp it. With this dynasty in
15:37
Kansas City, bloom you love hearing me
15:39
say that. Hey, it pains me, but
15:42
it is a dynasty.
15:44
Well the thing is, it's like, alright, how many more are
15:47
they gonna win? And what's that
15:49
mean for Marquis Brown? As we talk
15:51
about old faces, new places, and better
15:53
production, like Marquis Brown
15:55
just stepped into heaven. It's
15:58
called Wide Receiver Heaven. situation
16:00
where they were down last
16:02
year with a bunch
16:04
of meh receivers and
16:07
they won the Super Bowl. Right.
16:09
Right. Marques Brown, welcome to heaven.
16:12
Yeah, and this is not, he
16:15
hasn't gotten too lofty of a
16:17
place in drafts yet. That's the
16:19
thing, right? Right. If you look
16:21
at drafts, you have
16:24
all three of these guys, basically, and
16:26
isn't worthy on the rookie wide receiver
16:28
hamstring spread
16:31
cross wagon right now. Like there's like three or
16:33
four rookie wide receivers that have already pulled
16:36
up a little lame with hamstrings early
16:38
in the calendar. Strike one. Ocea
16:41
Rice and Gal know what's going on with him.
16:43
James Palmer, your buddy James Palmer,
16:45
she's saying yes, you're expecting a suspension.
16:49
And then you have Brown. They're all
16:51
going in the same part of the
16:53
draft. So I like this because it's
16:55
the hive mind saying around sixth round
16:57
or so, fifth to sixth round, which
17:00
Kansas City wide receiver do you like? You can't, unless
17:02
you're at the turn or having picks close together, you're
17:04
probably not going to get to double-dip. Why would you
17:07
want to double-dip? Right. First one is the
17:09
one you have the most confidence in. So
17:12
I'll toss it back to you this way, Cease.
17:16
And I mean, I think Marques Brown is where
17:18
you'll probably want to put your chip out of
17:20
the three right now. He's only on any momentum.
17:22
He's been super productive at times, Tyler Murray, Lamar
17:24
Jackson. Does it matter, Cease, that at
17:26
the NBA playoffs,
17:29
Mavericks, courtside, contingent,
17:32
it was Marques Brown with Patrick Mahomes
17:34
and Rice was there, but in a
17:36
different area. Does that matter?
17:38
Yes, yes. One thousand percent that matters because
17:41
again, they always have the money and you
17:43
always have the seats. You're
17:46
gonna sit with who you want. You
17:48
know, did it matter who you sat with in the lunch
17:51
room? Yeah. In high school or
17:53
grade school, right? Did it matter when
17:55
you'd come in from recess and you'd go to lunch
17:57
who you were sitting with? Yeah. Hell yeah, that matters.
18:00
Hey, that's where my fantasy, my
18:02
very first fantasy that I ever played in was just
18:04
the three of us, Jim Sirianni and Al Morgan. What's
18:07
up, guys? Hockey, and
18:09
we would just do it day by day. We would
18:11
score it, hand score it from the newspaper, from the
18:14
box scores from the day before at our
18:16
lunch table. So yeah, man, lunch
18:18
tables, that's where lots of good stuff happened.
18:21
That's the question, Cease. That's the question you
18:23
need to ask every NFL player. Who do you set
18:25
next to when it's time to eat at a team
18:27
facility? I'll bring up the Russell Wilson story when he
18:29
sat down. I won't name
18:31
the players, but he sat down next to
18:33
a couple of practice squad guys and didn't
18:35
say anything. And
18:38
then when he did, he was talking about how his second butler
18:40
had the day off. He didn't know what
18:42
he was going to do. To a couple of guys that make,
18:44
and granted, this is a lot of money for
18:47
regular folks like you and me, Bloom, but like,
18:49
these practice wear guys make like eight grand a
18:51
week, you know, and
18:53
don't have any security. And here's Russell Wilson
18:56
with his million-zillion-dollar deal and superstar wife and
18:58
superstar lifestyle. He's like, my second butler is
19:00
off today. I don't know what I'm going
19:02
to do. Yeah, the lunch
19:04
table. What? And again,
19:07
this is why I don't think – this is
19:09
why I think Justin Fields starts in Pittsburgh, because
19:12
players are not going to warm up to Russell Wilson. And
19:15
certainly Steelers fans won't. And the fake and
19:17
the like, no. I mean, he
19:20
couldn't sit with anybody at the lunch room. Doesn't
19:23
that say it all? He had to
19:25
go sit next to some practice squad
19:28
scrubs and then talk
19:30
about his second butler having the day off.
19:32
Yeah. Yeah. The lunch table analysis is great.
19:35
We'd sit next to each other at lunch, Bloom. Yeah,
19:38
I think so. I think so. Although, well,
19:40
see, I do think we would have
19:43
naturally sat at different tables. But
19:46
I was – now I was the kind
19:48
of person that could sit at just about any
19:50
table in the lunch room
19:52
and be okay. I know you could. And
19:54
be okay. And there was only like 120 people in my
19:57
graduated class. It was a collection of Bentworth High School, class
19:59
93. It was a collection of
20:01
like six or seven small towns and the people
20:03
that lived in between on farms and things like
20:05
that. So everyone got
20:07
to know everybody very well.
20:09
It was like living in Springfield, the Simpsons
20:11
or something like that. So like farmers, jocks,
20:15
stoners, art kids,
20:17
right? Yeah. Music,
20:19
art theater kids. The popular
20:21
girl, the burnouts, you know,
20:24
the burnouts that were, you
20:26
know, just, it
20:28
was, everybody was there and
20:30
it was, you know, I feel sad.
20:34
I don't know if the kids now have the lunchroom experience
20:36
we had. It
20:38
depends. Anyway. Yeah. Now
20:42
you're sitting at the table with Pat Mahomes, man. Yeah.
20:45
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