On this episode, I am joined by Jeff. We talk about many things, including overcoming heartbreak, spirituality, trust & surrender, expectations and how things should be versus how they are, and finding our own beliefs other than what we've been taught. At one point Jeff asks me to read his story. This part has been edited out of the episode due to length but the story is in the show notes on my website along with links to other things mentioned in the episode. Join me in practicing the art of presence as we listen to what Jeff has to share with us. I invite you to notice what comes up for you while listening and feel welcome to share with us. This episode is available to watch on YouTube. Thank you for listening!

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