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touch through this and and give us your thoughts

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were going to hear later. Actually, from the guy

1:04

that I wrote about on subbed Aca the other

1:06

day. The coach of guys

1:08

while of just as we Guys While

1:11

and other rod it's almost like Zubin

1:13

the Richer who is a real pioneer

1:15

of coaching methods and drills that we

1:17

were talking about in an earlier podcast.

1:19

So he's coming up after the break

1:22

and his star pupil yes as regional

1:24

today has gone past the thousand rounds

1:26

and really dominated the latter half of

1:28

the day, but I suppose on we

1:30

should always you stop by those reflecting

1:32

on the state of play. Yeah.

1:35

India totally on top a mountain too

1:37

far for England cameo cricket today from

1:39

them and India totally dominating the day

1:41

and have to say years. It has

1:43

the feel of an innings defeat. Does

1:46

it? does it feel like that you

1:48

for England hundred and thirty five a

1:50

one in reply to two hundred eighteen

1:52

All I even a thing than were

1:54

to make progress ruined his batting tomorrow

1:56

still feel they can. I can see

1:58

that a reasonable first innings. Then the

2:00

pressure comes on in the third innings

2:02

with India spin. As India dominating the

2:05

day, England couldn't cope with the three

2:07

spinners to date Ashwin and cool the

2:09

pool during the damage. To start with

2:11

an usher in joining in the somebody

2:14

was pretty timid from England wasn't There

2:16

was just no real a resilience that

2:18

rule that frenetic, totally unable to absorb

2:20

any pressure. Groundhog.

2:23

Day really wasn't it with the

2:25

sort of sequence of middle order

2:27

collapses in this series another one

2:29

today. It's actually I found the

2:31

quite amusing or the other day

2:34

before this match and you mention

2:36

the mountain to climb England have

2:38

been exploring the mountains a little

2:40

bit. A couple of shots or

2:42

videos from Jimmy Anderson and others

2:45

on Instagram of the the bowlers

2:47

instead of having their ice bath

2:49

in the ground getting into the

2:51

the freezing waters. That the cascade

2:53

around Dharmsala the some lovely streams and

2:56

rivers that you can jump into and

2:58

actually have a swimming is absolutely arctic.

3:00

I'll put my foot in when we

3:02

were in Dharmsala over the the World

3:05

Cup and is very cold in never

3:07

wonderful for a bowl last after a

3:09

hard three Aca on the field but

3:11

it's the batsman that need to go

3:13

put their heads under. That's how waters

3:16

a day because. That. Was a

3:18

shocking performance buying the day after.

3:20

a good opening stand again. Wickets.

3:23

Fell five wickets for eight runs in

3:25

the middle order and the last seven

3:27

game for forty three Unforgivable at. Fifty

3:31

Partnership. For. the first wicket of

3:33

the series is best been a problem ring

3:35

and crawley indicate been able to kang min

3:37

after decent start actually early on dominated pretty

3:40

wealth not to lose a wicked and because

3:42

of his book the book was jogging around

3:44

bummer about what unbelievable the live wrists and

3:46

to crawl it is of angle then and

3:48

left him and he missed it you look

3:50

into planes the onside went with the angle

3:52

he missed it past the i saw that

3:55

annabelle what over the top of middle stump

3:57

it was a fantastic delivery i didn't have

3:59

the anyone believe it hadn't bowled him. I

4:01

don't know the new ball, bit of extra

4:03

bounce. There was a lot of playing and

4:05

missing. Of course Ben Duckett doesn't like to

4:07

leave so he was pushing it ball and

4:09

missing. Bummer of us getting the ball to

4:12

really curve away from the right-handers. But every

4:14

now and again Crawley would drive one through

4:16

the offside before, just relieve a bit of

4:19

the pressure. England, well

4:21

they certainly survived the new ball

4:23

didn't they? Ashwin came on at

4:26

47 for no wicket. So again

4:28

a solid start from England. Jadajah not into

4:30

the attack until the 37th over when it

4:32

was 136 for two but it

4:35

was Yadav, called it

4:37

Yadav who made the first

4:40

incision. Ben Duckett, it's

4:44

the way he plays, he was trying to hit him

4:46

over the top. He'd already taken nine off his first

4:48

five balls and then a big

4:50

siding booming drive over the top and then

4:52

Gill took a very good catch running back

4:54

and kind of India were on their

4:56

way. In that early part of the evening I felt

4:58

like England they were just beginning to get on top

5:00

and they'd lose a wicket and that would draw India

5:02

back into the game and then later on it

5:05

was all just a pack of cards time. The sort of

5:07

thing we've seen so often from

5:09

England and India, it actually reminded me of the last

5:11

tour that England went on to

5:14

India. They just couldn't

5:16

deal with a cool deep Yadav today. What

5:18

do you think? Do you think

5:20

there are still deep into the series there are

5:22

players who are just not reading him? Definitely,

5:26

undoubtedly. Ben Stokes

5:28

is a prime example, he's playing him off

5:31

the pitch. I find it strange actually that,

5:33

in fact, I videoed a couple of his

5:35

deliveries today, the wicket ball to Stokes and

5:37

a couple of balls before that, so the

5:40

orthodox delivery that spun away from him and

5:42

then the googly that defeated him and got

5:44

him on the back for LBW and there

5:47

is quite a discernible difference

5:49

in the release. It's obviously

5:52

different looking from behind as it

5:54

is looking from the batsman's perspective,

5:57

but there is a difference. Google

6:00

is higher and straighter whereas

6:03

the normal leg break that spins

6:05

away from the left hander into the right

6:07

hander is the arm is slightly lower and

6:09

it's slightly kinked. There's a slight bend in

6:11

it to create that spin whereas

6:13

when he bowls the Google his arm is bolt upright

6:16

and the ball is obviously coming out of the back

6:18

of the hand so there are discernible differences. I mean

6:20

obviously I have no pretensions as

6:22

a batsman so I can't really

6:24

criticise these top class players for

6:27

being not able to pick called E but

6:29

I would have thought they've had enough video

6:32

evidence and other analysis to be able to

6:34

see the differences. In

6:36

fact before we sort of dwell on that a

6:39

bit more I would like to just go back

6:41

to this opening pair of Crawley

6:43

and Duckett who had been

6:45

impressive seven times in the last 11

6:48

innings going back beyond before

6:50

this series they've scored a 50 partnership,

6:52

five 50 partnerships in this

6:54

series. They haven't really

6:56

kicked on and that's the time you

6:58

want to bat isn't it? It seems

7:00

it's alright you're facing Boomer and other

7:02

faster bowlers who are good but the

7:05

ball is doing less generally then than it

7:08

does in the middle of the innings when the

7:10

spinners are on. So that's when England have to

7:13

capitalise and I mean Zach

7:15

Crawley for all his glorious

7:18

driving and consistency so he's

7:20

the leading England batsman in

7:22

the series with 45 average

7:25

and constantly getting off to a good

7:27

start hasn't ever kicked on. He's

7:29

got a high score in the 70s and

7:32

that's just not enough

7:34

is it? He's still hovering as

7:36

a test average around 31-32 which

7:39

you've got to get big hundreds at

7:42

that top of the order and that

7:44

was the secret with saying England in

7:46

2012 in India. Alistair Cook, big

7:48

hundreds, big hundreds, 190, 170 those sort of scores. Kevin Peterson,

7:50

186 in the middle of

7:55

the order. You've got to get big scores

7:57

and it's a responsibility.

8:00

that top order to do that and

8:02

apart from Duckett's 150 in that second test he hasn't

8:07

let you know England haven't done it the

8:09

openers haven't done it and really

8:11

delivered big scores. I

8:13

call it today I thought play really nicely I mean he

8:15

looked good I mean he did have his share of luck

8:18

to be fair he survived an

8:20

umpire's call against Siraj on 29

8:22

he was actually caught by Salfra

8:24

as a short leg on

8:27

61 but India did not review it Salfra has

8:29

an insistent that there was a little tickle down

8:31

the leg side it hit the keepers gloves banked

8:33

up and Salfra's died back and took the catch

8:35

Salfra said yeah that's out but Rohit Sharma did

8:37

not review it that was another umpire

8:39

Wilson decision but those are tricky ones I

8:41

think those inside edges onto the pad or

8:44

inside edges fine edges you know not always

8:46

straight forward well not not all of the

8:48

Indian fielders were convinced the keeper wasn't convinced

8:50

and he was the one that dropped the

8:52

catch so you know that that was an

8:55

understandable one I suppose he did have a

8:57

bit of luck today a crawly

8:59

but then he he was out the

9:02

dismissal that got him was a

9:04

ball tossed up by Kaldik Beyadav just outside the

9:06

off stump and he went for a big drive

9:08

he was bowled through the gate it really did

9:10

spin and it was one

9:12

of those it was like umpires call wasn't it on

9:14

the stumps he bowled him but it was like an

9:16

umpire's call if you know flick the the leg bail

9:18

off yeah he

9:21

is a player that has been out six

9:23

times in the 70s in test cricket three

9:25

times in the 70s in India he plays

9:27

some lovely shows I suppose the thing about

9:30

Zach Crawley's he always gives you a chance doesn't he in

9:33

the way he plays and that's the reason why he's

9:35

been out six times in the 70s you know they've

9:37

been batters in the past when they get to 70

9:39

they really do cash in and actually you're right yours

9:42

I mean if you want to win in India Someone

9:44

or two players have got to get big scores.

9:46

Just well done it a couple of times in

9:48

the series. Of course when Ollie Pope did it

9:50

in the first test match England did win the

9:53

game. Okay, it was an unusual set of circumstances

9:55

and he was dropped and I think India taking

9:57

that catch then probably they'd be on course for

9:59

to win the series. Five no bake it

10:01

is this big runs and said the cameos

10:03

don't really make that much difference. I made

10:05

seventy nine up two hundred eighteen. She's as

10:08

you wrong to be of pinpointing him it

10:10

away because he least he scored seventy nine

10:12

today. There are lots of others he got

10:14

in and new fitted they wickets away and

10:17

get there were lot there were not a

10:19

double figures scores thought nothing of any a

10:21

great substance. I think there's a and the

10:23

trouble is that cool is locked up in

10:26

a big fan of his eyes. They are

10:28

in in in amongst all the criticism. And

10:30

people saying you're dirty averaging twenty seven and

10:32

all this other thing in the past and

10:34

he was. Why is he getting such an

10:37

extended rotten which broke Brendon Mccullum very much

10:39

vouched for. I feel

10:41

that he's not quite hungry enough

10:43

is not quite sys enough. In

10:46

A Plays as be. So he's improved

10:48

his driving and his judgment. What to

10:50

lead? Want to play a little bit

10:52

so he's not getting nicht auf twice

10:54

as much as he was. I was

10:56

in in a good sign or is

10:58

not these not clinical enough when he

11:00

gets into those sixties and seventies? still

11:02

playing those slightly flamboyant shots and. I.

11:05

Just feel it's almost like a matter time. Yet

11:07

he he does give the boulder a chance. We

11:09

look at guys wealth by comparison. He

11:12

plays the flamboyant shots, but when he

11:14

defends, he defends with absolute resolution and

11:16

total decisiveness. I think it's just a

11:18

bit of sort of slightly flower. Enough

11:20

about you know if you are if

11:22

to a Geoffrey Boycott was a an

11:25

hour ago. always play those British helps

11:27

you know pretty no good. I mean

11:29

it's. It's. Just that lacks a

11:31

little bit of precision, I think, and

11:33

it's eyes bit hard to criticize. You're

11:35

right, But and he's averaging forty five

11:37

in the series Ice Quite interesting, actually.

11:39

if you look at. England's batting

11:41

averages in the series they are

11:44

imperfect batting order actually in terms

11:46

of the average because Crawley number

11:48

one is averaging forty five doc

11:51

it and the to thirty seven.

11:54

Pope. Number. Three thirty two. Then

11:56

it goes down from their route. Twenty

11:58

nine. Best I try. The to stoke

12:00

twenty one point, Eight Eight nine. Interesting.

12:02

The exactly the same averages folks. a

12:05

number seven, twenty one, but Eight nine.

12:07

And then the bowlers eighteen for

12:09

hartley, twelve for would. Tend.

12:12

The Bashary to Randerson. So

12:14

they're absolutely in school called all of those

12:16

averages are there and I got the batting

12:18

order right. I suppose it extremely unusual for

12:20

that sort of status. rear it's head is

12:23

a scam cause a lovely player to watch

12:25

these not a ruthless player and probably a

12:27

think a to be a top class test

12:29

match play you have to have not been

12:31

ruthlessness about he has to sites ya gotta

12:33

yeah hundred and fifty of gonna get one

12:35

hundred and seventy A nice was in a

12:38

way it is it just talking about soy

12:40

his responsibilities to go on. it was a

12:42

size and if you if you do. Get

12:44

in, You have gotta go on. You have

12:46

got to make the most of it because

12:48

it it it in theory. Does get easier

12:51

as you go on. Yeah, but I mean

12:53

that, but they're out. there are limits and

12:55

cup culpability elsewhere as well to daily. neither

12:57

is. And an icy up to be fair

12:59

to call it was a brute beautiful delivery

13:01

from Cody that I was tempted. The drive.

13:04

In. A curved away from him what

13:06

very full length and spawn. Back to

13:08

the guy it was a classic delivery

13:10

pope you mentioned before England that not

13:13

picking full the be at as googly

13:15

pope definitely miss read that once went

13:17

down the wicked just before lunch. Kind

13:20

of just as valuable to.clip. And.

13:22

It was the goonies said he plays of the

13:24

leg bright and he he was completely down. The

13:26

kids are stumped miles down the pits and. Hundred

13:29

for one became a hundred for to lunch.

13:31

but still England had the best of the

13:33

first session. Yeah you say

13:35

the like break us what you gotta let me

13:38

go to think about switching all rhyme with the

13:40

left arm respond us to talk to the ball

13:42

with spins back in it it but that is

13:44

the or stock ball it for the left arm

13:46

i respect the googly one the goes away from

13:49

this the right hand around us what happened with

13:51

with only pay via the the eat was the

13:53

other one was crawlies was the that the natural

13:55

in spinner from the left arm respond he got

13:57

us altered your brain around it or think. That

14:00

a different way with that are left arm

14:02

respond a yeah bombings and Lt Pope these

14:04

games or just of its skin it frantic

14:06

frenetic at the start of his innings. anybody

14:08

can get over that the he can go

14:10

on and we we saw him do that

14:12

in the first. actually a bad time to

14:14

lose of a wicked just before lunch as

14:16

a great shot his methods for side on

14:18

was see Pope so far down the bits

14:21

is almost for actually in the dressing room,

14:23

hobbies, lunch or when the battles without a

14:25

ripped off by a drought or straight for

14:27

that peter stomach love the moment for this

14:29

the the left donbass. Been ah me to

14:31

to bowlers know yeah of he does he

14:33

does to the Gabi does give you problems

14:35

and eat a dustbin as well. and on

14:37

I thought use Exxon to they sources in

14:39

wasting disease or summed up the day or

14:42

something that's batting. What does he take Five

14:44

or seventy five for fifteen overs and they

14:46

they try to get off from of as

14:48

well. He walked him about a bit. I'm

14:50

Johnny Best I for example Meats. And

14:53

hundred test match for the Jonny Bairstow today.

14:55

I mean he came out looking so he

14:57

wanted a school that hear the fastest televised

14:59

fifty or whatever it was of of his

15:01

ticket hundred get in a session or something

15:03

and is a real belligerence about him again

15:05

that so led to his time folded know

15:07

that was the plot was the googly as

15:10

well the he's a. Big. Drive

15:12

Acne. Reviewed a net through to the

15:14

keep. Our the nobody was thinking well

15:16

he was thinking perhaps the packet, the

15:18

Grind or by his paddle that's a

15:20

long way from paths. Anyway, he reviewed

15:22

one that is clearly Nick through. Add

15:25

to the key to what would it

15:27

would it make you the best? Oh,

15:29

approach today. Well firstly I decide to

15:31

say fantastic achievement to get to him

15:33

and test mercenaries. Been dropped fourteen times

15:35

or in left out of the team.

15:37

fourteenth of hims in that's hundred or

15:40

test period. So an incredible performance. And

15:42

our members talking about you when it done

15:44

his book. About three or four years ago,

15:46

I didn't event with him at Headingley. Of.

15:49

The book written by Duncan Hamilton about

15:51

his life. Excellent book. And and

15:53

one thing I'm in the johnny saying at

15:56

the time was he wanted to be the

15:58

first with keep a basement planned protest. England.

16:00

Of course he hasn't managed that because

16:02

he hasn't get wicked all those test

16:04

matches and no one else has actually

16:07

done that. But at least he's

16:09

got to 100 tests with probably about

16:11

half keeping wicked. So a fantastic

16:13

achievement and something that he must be

16:15

very proud of and that his family

16:18

will be very proud of. Janet, his

16:20

mum, I saw and his sister Becky

16:22

were there at the cap

16:25

awarding ceremony delivered by Joe Root

16:27

before the start of play,

16:30

a very poignant moment for the Bear

16:32

Stowe family who've been through so much

16:34

with the sad death of his dad

16:36

when Johnny was only eight. So it

16:39

really is a fabulous achievement for the

16:41

Bear Stowe family which his father David

16:43

will be looking down on proudly from

16:45

above. I thought

16:47

his innings was a bit

16:50

frenetic and I thought it could end

16:52

at any point. He was dropped by

16:55

a cork and bowled, he was

16:57

chewing his gum even more ferociously

16:59

than ever and he wanted

17:02

to be his usual

17:04

belligerent self but I thought it was just

17:06

a bit almost overdone

17:08

actually. Adrenaline was really coursing

17:11

through his veins and I thought it was only a

17:13

matter of time before he played a false shot because

17:15

the ball was turning a little bit and

17:18

the bowlers are very good and don't worry

17:20

about batsmen coming at them because they feel

17:22

they've got their number eventually. I remember something

17:24

Jasper Boomer said at the start of the

17:26

series, he said, if England wanted to attack

17:29

me that's great because it's going to mean

17:31

more wickets for me. I think there was

17:33

an element of that today

17:35

and certainly in Johnny Bear Stowe's dismissal,

17:37

he did drill one

17:39

six down the ground, it was actually a skimmer, it hardly

17:41

got off the ground, it just over the rope a long

17:44

off and then he hit one into the leg side as

17:46

well shortly before he was out. He made 29 from

17:49

18 balls and that sort of rather summed

17:51

it up. We've seen Bear Stowe play in that

17:53

belligerent way and it's come off and he's played

17:55

magnificently and When he does, when it

17:57

does come off, it's wonderfully entertaining. I

18:00

don't know we're at today just felt

18:02

like it was just yeah was it

18:04

was like of in fifth gear right

18:06

from the start and it's not easy

18:08

being in fifth gear against this indium

18:10

bowling line up to the well he

18:12

he had the number did the today

18:14

that england top older magnificence a day

18:16

from him. Out on

18:18

the dogs eating so best. Oh was

18:20

out but in a way cool leap

18:23

Heard deserve that wickets I just the

18:25

way bowls. And actually

18:27

cause we're com discount. Did today duel

18:29

with time who's just probing away relentless

18:31

in in the way. Again, he got

18:34

the kiwi. he didn't they thought. Joe.

18:36

Root Lbw and it was

18:38

an absolute classic. Today. To

18:40

dismissal. Because. The ball with

18:43

for a boat a beautiful deliberate about off

18:45

stump. Turns. Sharply

18:47

away route played the line.

18:50

This the. Taken. By the keeper.

18:54

It was one of the first time the

18:56

ball with actually significant returned. From.

18:58

The unorthodox spinner as opposed to risk been

19:00

a. So. Understandably that

19:03

the next bulls exactly the same route

19:05

played. For a little hint of turn,

19:07

I just slid on the arm and

19:09

hammered into his pad. And

19:11

he was dead. Lbw A Reviewed It.

19:14

More. In hope and expectation. It

19:18

was just and wonder will be an added

19:20

an obscene Steve Smith get out exactly the

19:22

same way I don't what you do it

19:24

with did a double not as paid Sixty

19:27

miles an hour, just under. And.

19:29

One bullfighting spins shop in the next, one

19:31

on the same line and length discouraged right

19:34

on your back is only for the quarter

19:36

inches wider than what you do. You just

19:38

gotta hope that the one that slides

19:40

on with the arm. Is

19:42

missing. The. Unscientific. Very it wasn't

19:44

and yeah he had to go and again

19:46

a key intervention by to danger the app

19:48

does absolutely of you do some out Perfectly

19:50

honest a way to date is looking to

19:52

get root out. What is it The way

19:54

to data looks to get right hand as

19:56

I a and it's of a modern dismissal

19:58

as well as a. The neocons drs his

20:01

comments probably bucking tough as his day when

20:03

the got that will be on the pushing

20:05

forward on the front from posing these to

20:07

give those eyes but you know clearly we

20:09

see now with a technology that they they

20:11

are right and and and route have to

20:13

go is just one seventy five for five

20:15

you from India breaking the bank of England's

20:18

batting. Grew up on his way.

20:20

a place deadly honey fit for twenty six.

20:22

didn't look india huge amount of trouble but

20:24

did ages. Intervention is is one intervention of

20:26

the day and a be decisive one and

20:29

and been steaks came a One thing we

20:31

haven't talked much about in the series just

20:33

we talked about in it's I spent a

20:35

good opportunity to side and steaks try to

20:37

orchestrate things is kept its behind a really

20:40

poor series cause he hadn't bold as a

20:42

garbage twenty one point eight nine and with

20:44

the bat and he does look to made

20:46

to be a man and it hasn't sold.

20:49

And he does problems against Spain we saw it

20:51

was seen it before India hub me where is

20:53

he struggles and he had a real really tough

20:56

time. The initiatives one is methods that we described

20:58

in the process much he described you talked about

21:00

it. They are hanging on the

21:02

backfoot basically his name and to read the

21:04

ball off the pitch and he was a

21:06

pin. They'll be doubly today and I can

21:08

be reviewed it that was I was with

21:10

health absolutely plum and good ones suddenly in

21:12

last three wickets for know runs the middle

21:14

order just riptides and the just felt the

21:17

games any go one way. I. Find

21:19

it odd that a a a

21:21

player steaks his ability. Is

21:24

is stuck with this method. That

21:26

you know that. It is not picking cool

21:28

the be at us. And. That may

21:30

be a measure of the deception of the bone about.

21:33

Can't believe that a player of states is. A

21:35

whole tied ability. Can't. See

21:37

the difference between. The two. Deliveries.

21:40

And then he's determined to play everything

21:42

off the back foot. Is so.

21:44

Worried. About being he on the pad on

21:46

the front foot and being given out that he's

21:48

trying to play off the pitch of the back

21:50

for and. The problem is that

21:52

Coolidge speed it up a bit is added.

21:55

I don't know. For five kilometers an hour

21:57

to is a natural speed. And. that

21:59

just gives the by than that bit less time. The

22:01

problem is, you know, the ball is pitching only

22:03

three or four metres from the stumps, much closer

22:05

to the batsman than a faster

22:07

bowler would on a length, and

22:10

there's no time to change a shot. If

22:12

the ball spins sharply, there's very little time,

22:15

and he keeps, even when he plays

22:17

forward, he doesn't get very far forward. So I

22:19

think a technical issue for Stokes against

22:22

Spin that he needs to solve. Watch

22:25

Giswell, what he does will come

22:27

to him a bit later, but

22:29

he does make a big stride

22:31

forward. He's not facing his own

22:33

bowlers, admittedly, but his

22:36

defensive shots are,

22:38

to me, impregnable, whereas Stokes'

22:40

defensive shots look fallible. Yeah,

22:43

another disappointing day for England's

22:45

captain. So averaging 21.89 in the series, and

22:50

so 175 for six. Hartley came and went,

22:52

you know, looking for a big shot, caught

22:55

it at long on. Mark Wood nicked off

22:57

straight away to slip, and suddenly it was eight

23:00

down, 183 for eight. And England, what, 100

23:02

for two at lunch, 183 for eight, and then 194 for

23:07

eight at T. That's got a few runs

23:09

just before T. I actually thought the Fokes'

23:11

partnership with Bouchier, where they added 35, without

23:14

seemingly too many problems, sort of indicated that,

23:16

yeah, England just nowhere near enough on

23:18

this surface. Okay, there is some spin. There is a

23:20

bit of turn there, isn't there, actually, on the first

23:22

day. I think both captains saw what looks a good

23:25

pitch, you know, quite firm and

23:27

with some carry. But I think there

23:29

is some spin there, and Cauldeke were able to exploit it.

23:32

But the standard 35, without too much

23:34

trouble between Fokes and Bouchier. And

23:36

Fokes just all summing it up for England,

23:38

really went for the sweep shot and somehow

23:40

managed to drag the ball onto the stumps.

23:42

He had to drag himself off, Chris Sporn,

23:44

and then Jimmy Anderson slogged one to mid-wicket,

23:47

and he was out for naught, and it was

23:49

all done, 218 all out. England's lowest first inning

23:51

score of the series, and you

23:54

don't win many test matches, certainly

23:56

not in India, with a first inning score of 218.

24:00

it's been one of England's problems throughout the series, 2-4-6, 2-5-3,

24:02

3-1-9, 3-5-3, 2-1-8 England's

24:09

first innings scores in the series, an average

24:12

of 2-7-7 actually just bolstered by that 3-5-3,

24:14

whereas India they've got

24:16

400 twice in the first innings

24:19

and very nearly 400 in other innings as well, 3-9-6

24:21

and then the 3-7-7 and I don't think you'd necessarily back

24:26

against them going quite big in this match

24:29

as well. No,

24:31

that's true. Of course this series is

24:33

covered exclusively on TNT Sports which is

24:36

also the exclusive home of the UEFA

24:38

Champions League, Europa League and

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24:42

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and more. The

24:49

highlights of today, or you could say low lights

24:51

if you're an England fan, are on

24:54

TNT Sports today at 4.30pm

24:57

and actually I noticed some quite interesting

24:59

Europa League matches on tonight in fact,

25:03

most of them, all of them in fact, featuring

25:05

British teams, Sparta Prague against

25:07

Liverpool, that's at 5pm,

25:10

then Roma against Brighton, Ajax

25:12

against Aston Villa, Benfica

25:15

against Rangers and Freiberg

25:17

against West Ham, those are all

25:19

on tonight on TNT Sports. So

25:22

plenty of good football as well as cricket

25:24

to watch. Absolutely, yeah, interesting

25:26

cricket to watch over the next few days

25:29

and also the New Zealand against Australia second

25:31

test match is coming up later this week

25:33

on TNT. I watched a bit of the

25:35

Real Madrid game against Red Bull Leipzig last

25:38

night, just shows sometimes actually where these big teams,

25:40

you can get at them, you can cause them

25:42

some problems and you know,

25:44

Red Bull Leipzig, they very nearly overturned

25:47

the mighty Real Madrid in their own

25:49

stadium but I just thought, actually sport,

25:52

one of the great things about

25:54

sport sometimes is watching great players

25:56

do something special, something different

25:59

compared to what... mortals do, the

26:01

lesser players. There was a wonderful moment

26:04

involving Jude Bellingham who

26:06

just waited, sometimes in

26:09

top class sport people do things so

26:11

quickly and you have to do things

26:13

quickly, but actually he just paused and

26:15

waited and waited for Vinicius

26:18

Jr. to make a run and then he

26:20

played this beautiful part. It's a wonderful moment

26:22

actually of top

26:24

class sport, someone able to see something really

26:26

clearly and execute it. Go away and have

26:29

a look at it. I'm sure they'll show

26:31

the replay of the highlights of

26:33

whatever on TNT sport, those of you who

26:35

like your football who didn't see it. It was a really

26:38

wonderful moment of top class sporting

26:41

play. It was actually and I

26:43

thought it was a classic example of a

26:45

weighted pass because it just teased

26:47

a defender but the attacker got the

26:49

ball first and planted it in the

26:51

back of the net. It

26:54

was an example actually of sort

26:56

of amazing peripheral vision of a

26:58

player of having that instinctive knowledge of

27:01

where his colleague was going to be

27:03

and putting the ball in exactly that

27:05

spot. Wonderful example. So you can stream

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27:18

and after the break we're going

27:20

to hear from the man who's

27:22

creating a new generation of phenomenal

27:25

batsmen in India. So

27:36

England 218 all out. The scene

27:38

was set for another assault

27:40

by the Indian batsmen, Rohit

27:42

Sharma and Shazby Jizawa. They

27:45

are a wonderful opening pair aren't they? The

27:47

veteran, the teacher and the

27:49

pupil kind of thing, right hand, left hand,

27:52

totally different skill sets. One

27:55

guy, Rohit, he's the most laid bat man

27:57

on the planet, he seems to be, he

27:59

doesn't to bother about, Mark Wood bawling at 92 miles an

28:01

hour. And Jyaswell,

28:04

this Elm Jhanu, this young pretender

28:07

to the throne of great

28:10

Indian batting, and

28:12

well, he delivered today, didn't he?

28:14

I mean, what wonderful exhibition of

28:17

his skills, which was quite

28:19

short-lived in the end to England's

28:21

great relief, but he did

28:23

show his expansive repertoire, but I

28:25

also thought he showed some

28:28

very good selectivity and,

28:31

you know, almost as I say, impregnable defence

28:33

against Anderson. He recognised Jimmy Anderson could

28:35

be a threat with the new ball,

28:38

and Anderson bowled pretty well, and

28:40

Jyaswell just defended him

28:43

very respectfully, very solidly,

28:45

very resolutely, and

28:47

very precisely as well. He got his

28:49

foot in exactly the right position alongside

28:51

the bat and, you know, offered a

28:54

sort of brick wall to Anderson at

28:56

the start, but then expanded his repertoire

28:58

soon after when the spinners came on. Well,

29:01

he hit three sixes in over off Bashir, he

29:03

hit three sixes in four balls off

29:05

him, and he looked as though he was going

29:07

to, you know, take England right down again. I

29:09

mean, it was pretty ruthless as it was, a

29:11

hundred partnership between Rohit Sharma and

29:13

Jyaswell, a thrilling stroke from Rohit. You talk

29:16

about their different styles. Well, Mark Wood actually

29:18

got up, cranked up the speed quite quickly,

29:20

didn't he, early on in his spell,

29:22

but pretty ineffective. Actually, he was pulled

29:24

for six by Rohit over fine leg, and went

29:26

way back into the crowd over the field as

29:28

head of fine leg, and that delivery was 151.2

29:30

kilometres an hour from Wood,

29:34

which is pretty rapid, but actually Rohit

29:36

seemed to play it really well, just

29:38

lifting it away. I mean, I don't

29:40

think it was a sort of, it

29:42

wasn't one of those no-look top edges.

29:44

He actually controlled the pull stroke hook

29:46

shot anyway, and then Jyaswell got

29:48

to work. I mean, the biggest surprise almost was

29:51

when Jyaswell was out. We talked about a crawly sort

29:53

of cameo cricket today, and some of

29:55

England's cameo cricket, and in a way, I suppose

29:57

you could argue today, Jyaswell after his... fantastic

30:00

score so far in the series. It was

30:02

a bit of a cameo cricket from Gijswald

30:04

in it, because there wasn't quite that ruthlessness

30:06

today, but he's had a fantastic series, and

30:08

he looks a wonderful talent. You talked about

30:10

him being past 1,000 runs in

30:13

what, nine test matches? 712

30:15

runs in the series so far at 89, whether

30:19

you'll get another go in the second season.

30:22

I'm not absolutely sure about that. You might

30:24

need to knock off a few

30:26

in the final innings, but in your showing control of

30:28

the game, they could actually taking them down in

30:30

three innings of the match, but it's

30:32

been a wonderful series from him. Well,

30:36

here's a measure of what he's achieved so far.

30:38

So he scored his thousandth run in this

30:40

innings in his ninth test

30:43

match, and it was a

30:45

sweep across to deep square leg soon

30:47

after actually he was out. But it

30:50

is a measure of what he's achieved. Just looking at the list

30:52

of fastest to 1,000 runs batsman,

30:56

in terms of tests, his ninth

30:59

test, it's equal with the best

31:01

ever. And the only other

31:03

people who've scored 1,000 runs inside nine

31:05

tests were Herbert Sutcliffe

31:08

of England, Everton

31:10

Weeks of the West Indies, and

31:14

George Headley of the West Indies. Those are

31:16

the only three batsman who've scored 1,000

31:19

runs inside nine test matches. And now

31:21

to be added to is Josh Asby

31:23

Jyaswell. In terms of innings, which I

31:25

suppose is a bit more realistic or

31:28

accurate, Jyaswell

31:30

is the sixth fastest.

31:33

So Herbert Sutcliffe of 1000 runs off

31:35

of only 12 innings. Everton

31:37

Weeks also 12. Donald Bradman,

31:39

of course, inevitably 13 innings for

31:42

his thousand. Neil Harvey of

31:44

Australia, 14. Also

31:46

Vinod Cambly, 14 test

31:48

innings. He

31:50

played against England in the Late

31:52

eighties and early nineties. I Remember

31:55

him scoring a double and he

31:57

was a dynamic, brilliant left-hander who

31:59

disappeared without. Trace had a few. Other

32:01

problems and and and later faded from

32:04

the game. So he got his thousand

32:06

rounds in fourteen innings and guys was

32:08

got his in sixteen. Which.

32:10

Is equal with Len Hutton,

32:12

Anne Frank Warren Soap an

32:14

extraordinary performance by a man

32:16

only twenty two years old

32:19

and as as you say,

32:21

seven hundred runs in this

32:23

series So that equals a

32:25

India's Best against English that

32:27

is the best ever by

32:29

Indian batsmen against England. Sunny.

32:31

Gavaskar still holds the record for an

32:34

Indian batsmen against anybody. So. I

32:36

did a piece acts as I mentioned

32:38

earlier on on Sub Stack Call Missouri

32:40

blog site at the other day about.

32:43

Focusing initially on three sixes that guys

32:45

will hit of demands and of successive

32:48

bowls in the third test match. He

32:51

he out a sort of slug sweet

32:53

flick overtake square leg. The six. He.

32:55

Then he a lanza went wide of the

32:58

crease wider the off stump and he he

33:00

and his neighbor extra cover for six the

33:02

next ball. And then Anderson went

33:04

straight to insult or any, belted him back

33:07

over his head for sex. and he went

33:09

from one hundred and fifty nine, two hundred

33:11

and seventy seven with three shops to all

33:13

different corners of the ground. And you've thought,

33:16

well, that was sort of bit random in

33:18

a way that actually, as I argue in

33:20

the peace, it wasn't random because. The.

33:22

Way that Indian batters particularly for

33:24

the roster royals of which just

33:26

as be jostle is a member.

33:29

Do. Have a particular were practicing

33:31

which is quite revolutionary. And

33:33

pioneered by a man I mentioned at

33:35

the stars Zubin, A richer who's

33:37

been with the rules ever since they were

33:40

founded in Two Thousand and Eight and has

33:42

been very much I Director of High Performance.

33:44

He was a former. First. class

33:46

cricket out who actually scored one hundred and

33:48

his first last a but after a few

33:50

matches went into coaching it has been there

33:52

ever since and he's someone who drives batsman

33:55

to higher levels of achievement and he's got

33:57

that record with quite a number of players

33:59

and the past and now he's

34:01

been working with especially Giswell and

34:03

Drew Jurell, the guy who

34:06

came into the Indian side in the last couple of

34:08

test matches and also Paddycal as well

34:10

who's made his debut in this

34:12

test match too so it'd be interesting to see how

34:14

he goes but I thought we'd just

34:16

hear a little bit from Zubin about

34:18

what his coaching philosophy is. What

34:22

we're trying to build is a 360 player who

34:24

can hit the ball in every direction and

34:27

particularly hit it where there are no fielders. So

34:30

now all our practices are

34:33

geared towards each output so we have

34:35

like six outputs that we've generated for

34:38

so the output could be you know you have

34:40

to hit a boundary square of the fielder on

34:42

the offside you know beating you know the fielder

34:44

on the offside and the same on the onside.

34:46

Either you have that shot or you don't have

34:48

that shot you know against the spinner and against

34:50

the fast bowler and if you didn't

34:53

have that shot our roles you know at

34:55

the Academy level was to rebuild you

34:57

so that you have the ability to do that. So

35:00

let's take Giswell as an example. Giswell

35:02

when he first came couldn't hit sixes

35:04

of the left arm spinner or leg

35:06

spinner through long on and mid wicket. He

35:09

couldn't do that because he had a bent elbow at

35:11

the point of contact. Now that project

35:13

is like an 18-month project so

35:15

whilst we were working on that we

35:18

went away and started working on you

35:21

know his reverse sweep for example. So we

35:23

said we could compensate in that way. Each

35:25

player almost has that template

35:28

in front of them that you know they have to go you

35:31

know whether they hit the ball offside, onside

35:33

and then what we've what we've done with

35:35

the variability is we've created a layer of

35:38

sequencing so all our practices are sequenced like

35:40

if the thrower is throwing you a ball

35:42

he'll throw one on the offside

35:44

and then the next thrower throws it on the leg

35:46

side and the next throw throws it at your face

35:49

you know for the bouncer so it's

35:51

flick, cut, pull, drive and then

35:53

repeat. So you know you're in the traditional

35:55

way your you know your one round of

35:58

Inner Net would be, you know, The spinner though

36:00

he has full of the something like that. One.

36:03

Round in a net for us today.

36:05

Starts with for crews were about eleven

36:07

to twelve feet away from the batsman.

36:09

maybe fifteen feet. Behind.

36:12

Them other side arms, you know the guys wang it.

36:14

So. He looked for true or false

36:16

items. All. Trying to different

36:19

locations. And behind that we have

36:21

the full spinner than the full thoughts. Bonus.

36:23

So. It's like one round is

36:25

sixteen variables. Each being thrown at

36:27

a sequence of off site on sight of

36:29

they don't think. Of cause the

36:32

bullets just both whenever they want.

36:34

So what we're trying to do

36:36

is in one sixteen both fashion.

36:38

The guys getting the entire range and if

36:41

he if he falters somewhere like the gunplay

36:43

the Fleet going on played a couple of

36:45

he just keeps repeatedly getting the same

36:47

shocked so eventually has to get it right

36:49

so that so if building the base

36:51

on which in on this final product is

36:54

is is what you find a switch

36:56

on the tv and watch so we don't

36:58

discuss between each cricket we don't discuss

37:00

this match cricket We don't change anything in

37:02

our practice sessions to this to kind

37:04

of yeah. we tweak a few things if

37:07

somebody wants to blitz in and. Of

37:09

estate in we do that but but

37:11

effectively it's a it's a scoring runs.

37:14

in areas where there and will feel does. And.

37:16

Be able to hit the ball in the

37:18

sequence of of sight on side so if

37:21

you soldiers was playing. And. There.

37:23

Was a six over squealing people like

37:25

some line. He then goes he knows

37:27

that he the congo legs complained he

37:29

has to go outside. Awesome! He.

37:31

Then goes six away, sir color. So.

37:34

Now he knows obviously and son has to come

37:36

straight at him because he can go outside, coffee

37:38

and will outside like and then he goes six

37:40

on the ground. So. That's a

37:43

sequence that we practice lake. In. As

37:45

I said before, that stuff every ball is

37:47

that is in that sequence. Every ball be

37:49

truant. The plant is in that sequence. So

37:51

now we take that sequence. Not.

37:54

only just on the from the center from the

37:56

practice that they're doing which isn't a on on

37:58

was inevitably in on the same pitch. But

38:01

we take it into tennis ball throws, we take

38:03

it into rubber ball throws, we take it into

38:06

practicing the, you know, the bouncer and

38:08

the, you know, on granite wickets. On

38:11

the outfield, we have a session on

38:13

the outfield where you can't defend or

38:15

you can't defend any single ball either on the

38:17

front foot or the back foot. You

38:19

either have to hit a four or six or place it in

38:21

the gap. And we have

38:23

spinners bowling from half a wicket into the rough

38:26

and they have to do this for an hour

38:28

pretty much every day. And even there,

38:30

the spinners are instructed, you know, if they bowl one on the

38:32

offside, then they have to bowl one on the onside and the

38:34

players are doing the same. They're hitting one

38:36

on the offside, they're hitting one on the onside. So

38:39

you're constantly getting this variability and that's, you

38:41

know, that's why you see the run rate

38:43

going up. And of course we

38:45

have heavy bats and light bats and

38:48

thin bats and heavy balls and light

38:50

balls and, you know, the anything, any

38:52

artifact that can go into sort of

38:54

increasing bat speed, increasing

38:56

sort of your range of shot making,

38:58

increasing your focus in terms of the

39:00

tiny bats, tiny balls, you

39:02

know, what Bradman did all

39:05

those many years ago, we follow the same

39:07

principles and we've just added this layer of

39:09

sequencing, this layer of variability on top of,

39:11

you know, these existing principles.

39:14

So that's where you're seeing this output that is,

39:16

you know, that's sort of a little bit different

39:18

to what other people are doing. And

39:21

it's getting a little bit noticeable. Obviously

39:23

we haven't still encountered Australia

39:26

or England in England. And of course,

39:28

you know, once we understand what

39:30

to do for those situations, obviously we'll adapt

39:32

to that as well. But I would say

39:34

we're still well short of, you know,

39:37

doing it on in those conditions. It

39:39

sounds very systematic, a sort of

39:41

systematic approach to coaching, which is

39:44

less about technique and

39:46

more about output, I

39:48

suppose. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

39:50

Absolutely. It's all about output. There's

39:53

a very strong layer of technique

39:55

that underpins it. Because if

39:57

you can't hit certain shots in certain locations,

39:59

you will have to alter techniques. So if

40:01

you can't flick into the onside, like, like, J.S.

40:03

Well, when he first came, he did, he didn't

40:06

have any onside game. It was

40:08

a very heartwarming moment against England because England, I

40:10

don't know if it was a third or fourth

40:12

or this last test match. They

40:14

realized that he gets the high percentage of his

40:16

runs on the offside. So

40:18

they tried to test him out, you know, straight

40:20

down, you know, getting him out LBW and caught

40:23

down on the leg side. And he played beautifully

40:25

straight down the ground. If you notice his graph

40:27

was very different than this last game because they

40:29

changed their line of attack. And this is something

40:31

we talked about pretty much the day

40:33

he arrived here. You know, you have to improve

40:35

your onside game if you want to become a

40:38

world-class player. And he was very determined that that's

40:40

what he wanted to do. So we worked on

40:42

that, you know, we've been working on that, you

40:44

know, onside game for the last two years almost.

40:47

So it was very pleasing to see when England attacked

40:49

him on the inside, he was able

40:51

to put it away through mid-wicket, through square leg, you

40:53

know, and flick it over a fine leg and so

40:56

on and so forth. So that

40:58

was very exciting from, you know, from a development

41:00

perspective, how we've been able to sort of stack

41:02

it up so that he's, you know, there's no

41:04

sort of area that he can't score from. So

41:07

it's fascinating to hear Zubin and

41:09

the impact he's had on players

41:11

and the way he's making batters

41:14

think about

41:16

spaces to hit the

41:18

ball into in any format, not just the

41:21

T20 format. They almost disregard

41:23

what format the batters are preparing

41:26

for. And the other

41:28

thing I think is interesting is that in a

41:30

way only in India is this possible because it

41:33

requires, as he admitted, about 30

41:35

odd people to be all

41:37

these ball feeders and sidearm throwers

41:40

and so on. It's created quite an

41:42

opportunity, an employment opportunity actually for a

41:45

new raft of people in Indian cricket

41:47

and potentially in other countries as well.

41:49

But you do need the facilities and

41:51

the people and the investment as well

41:53

to have the time and the expertise

41:55

to work on a player. But,

41:57

you know, they're trying to produce almost what you might.

42:00

called the perfect batter and

42:03

they seem to be getting some way towards that

42:05

with Jai as well don't they? Absolutely,

42:07

you sort of hinted there that other people

42:09

taking note of what they were doing, do

42:12

you sense that within India or you know

42:14

in the game in general? It's

42:17

hard to tell what other franchises

42:19

are doing but Zubin is quite confident that

42:21

their method is unique and the Rajasthan roles

42:23

have always been quite ahead of the game,

42:25

they were the first people to really use

42:28

data analytics and so on and they've gone

42:30

into that in deep deep

42:32

detail, now they're using the

42:34

data to inform how

42:36

they practice and so the

42:39

practice methods are clearly I think more

42:41

intense and more sophisticated than

42:43

probably any other franchise

42:45

or any other club around the world

42:48

and players obviously share stuff

42:50

and they will pass it on

42:52

and other franchises will probably buy

42:54

into this idea and of course

42:56

we haven't even mentioned what Drew

42:58

Jarrell did before the

43:01

last test, he spent four hours

43:03

with Zubin practicing to

43:05

against a range of

43:07

spinners about 20 different spinners, faced 140 overs in

43:09

the middle they

43:12

have a facility in the centre of India

43:14

near Nagpur where a groundman can produce any

43:16

one of 40 different types

43:18

of surface and they really

43:20

focus on middle practice, they don't do nets

43:23

at all, they've almost got rid of the

43:25

idea of nets they have middle practice with

43:27

full field settings and lots of

43:29

bowlers and you know encouraging

43:32

batsmen to find ways

43:34

of scoring runs irrespective of the situation

43:36

or the match type. Are

43:39

India going to be beaten at home in the 21st century?

43:42

Of course I mean that's a very

43:44

good question but I suppose the final

43:46

thought is I pity the poor bowlers

43:50

because the bowlers have got to find a way through

43:52

this, I mean at

43:54

least loudly the Royals also

43:56

focus on bowlers and having a

43:58

range of spinners skills at their

44:01

disposal and perfecting those skills and

44:04

also pushing them physically as well. So

44:06

for instance they'll get a ball, a

44:08

ball is six balls in the middle

44:11

practice and in between each

44:13

ball he's got to go and field the ball at mid

44:15

on or pick it out

44:17

and throw it into the keeper or something. So

44:19

there's a little drill between deliveries and then when

44:21

they're not bowling and they're having a breather for

44:24

an over they're made to field a

44:26

ball from long on to run in and

44:28

throw it in before going to their next

44:30

over. So they're sort of trying to push

44:32

them physically as well as technically. Well

44:36

it seems to me that India are going to

44:38

sort of new levels. You're seeing it with players

44:40

like Jaiswal and Jirel in that last Test match.

44:42

I thought he looked excellent didn't he? A keeper

44:45

right at the start of his Test

44:48

match career but playing two match winning

44:50

innings helped India clinch the series.

44:52

So I mean good luck to teams going

44:54

to India in the future. All these resources

44:57

and all this talent as well and it

44:59

seems to me that it's

45:01

being harnessed. So it's going to be a huge challenge

45:03

for the rest of the world to go to India

45:05

and do well and it has been like that for

45:07

a decade or so now. The challenge

45:09

for India is when they go abroad but

45:11

they're doing pretty well at that. But they

45:13

haven't won many international tournaments of

45:16

late have they the men? So yeah they'll get

45:18

there though.

45:20

You feel they will because they've got these methods

45:22

in place and they have got the

45:25

talent. Well good luck to the rest of the

45:27

world and I have to say good luck

45:29

to England in this Test match. They'll do well to get

45:31

out of it without a three day

45:33

defeat it seems to me. It might just dribble into the

45:36

fourth day. Unless they can change the tide tomorrow

45:38

somehow. I did mention the ball just turning a

45:40

bit. Can they get some early wickets? But India

45:43

look on course for another crushing victory

45:45

you'd have to say at this stage.

45:47

Yeah they do. I mean one final

45:50

point. I was very impressed with the

45:52

show of Bashir tonight who had an

45:54

onslaught from Jiswell that came back superbly,

45:56

got him stumped, gave him

45:58

the thousand yard stare. a bit

46:01

of a send-off, didn't say anything but you

46:03

know glared at him and there's a there's

46:05

a fire in that bowlers belly definitely and

46:08

interestingly of course he was at

46:10

the Ralston-Rawls Academy and met Shane

46:12

Warren credits that meeting with giving

46:14

him a kind of ambition

46:16

but he held his nerves superbly and he's

46:19

definitely going to have a big future so

46:21

well done to him and perhaps he can

46:23

get another five wickets in the morning so

46:25

we'll be back tomorrow to review the second

46:28

day's play don't forget of course it's on

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