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Ted Audio Collective This
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is Ted Health, and I'm Dr. Shoshana Ungerleiter.
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In medicine, we've found cures for
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so many diseases, which
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is astonishing and wonderful. But
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there still isn't a cure for the pesky
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common cold. Why is that?
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On today's show, science educator
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George Zidin explains why rhinoviruses,
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which cause up to 50% of all colds, remain
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impervious to vaccines and antiviral
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2000, a company called Viropharma ran clinical
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trials of Pliconeril, a new pill designed
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to treat the common cold. In
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many patients, the pill helped, but in seven of
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them, just a few days into the treatment, researchers
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found mutated virus variants that were
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almost completely resistant to Pliconeril. Viruses
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are always mutating, but this one mutated so
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quickly that it managed to outmaneuver years
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of research and development in just a few
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days. If you
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didn't have an immune system and caught a
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cold, the infection would quickly spread deep into
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your lungs. Rampant viral replication
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would destroy tissue there until your lungs
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couldn't supply your body with enough oxygen
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and you'd asphyxiate it. Unfortunately,
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for millions of people around the world who
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live with a less than fully functional immune
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system or who are on immunosuppressant drugs, this
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is a real risk. Quote
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unquote, minor infections can turn serious
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or even deadly. But if
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you're fortunate enough to have a fully functional immune
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system, a cold will probably give you
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a few relatively mild symptoms. On
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average, adults catch more than 150 colds
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throughout their lives, and despite the fact
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that the symptoms are similar, the cause
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could be different each time. Common
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colds are caused by at least eight
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different families of virus, each of which
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can have its own species and subtypes.
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How can so many different viruses cause the
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same illness? Viruses can only
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invade our bodies in a few ways. One
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is to come in on a breath, and we
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have to breathe. So our immune system sets up
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a bunch of frontline defenses, and these are actually
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what produce many of the symptoms of a cold.
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Your mucus-y dripping nose is your
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immune system trapping and flushing out
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virus. Your fever is your immune
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system raising your body temperature to
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slow down viral replication, and your
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inflamed, well, everything. That's your
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immune system widening your blood vessels and recruiting
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its white blood cell army to help kill
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the virus. So if
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a common cold is caused by many different
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viruses, is a cure even possible?
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Here's one fact in our favor. A single
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family of viruses causes 30 to 50
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percent of all colds, rhinovirus.
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If we could eliminate all rhinovirus infections, we'd
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be a long way towards curing the common
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cold. There are two
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main ways to fight a virus, vaccines
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and antiviral drugs. The
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first attempt to create a rhinovirus vaccine
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was a success, but a short-lived one.
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In 1957, William Price vaccinated 50
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kids with inactivated rhinovirus and gave
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50 others a placebo. Soon
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afterwards, a rhinovirus outbreak spread throughout the
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kids. In the vaccinated group,
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only three got sick. In the
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placebo group, 23 did, almost eight
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times as many. And
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despite the small numbers, this was
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promising. The immune systems of vaccinated
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kids were successfully recognizing and responding
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to rhinovirus. But later trials of
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the vaccine showed no protection at
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all, none. This wasn't
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Price's fault. No one at the time
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knew that rhinovirus had multiple subtypes. Price's
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vaccine, for reasons we don't
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fully understand, didn't provide broad
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protection, meaning it was only effective
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against one or maybe a few subtypes
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of rhinovirus, out of 169 subtypes and
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counting. Sometimes when we
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make a vaccine, we get lucky. The
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mRNA COVID vaccines, for example, effectively
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protect us against severe disease and
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death across the original virus and
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variants too. But we have
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yet to create a broadly protective vaccine
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against rhinovirus or any other virus that
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causes the common cold. Okay,
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what about antiviral drugs? Viruses
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hijack human cellular machinery to
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replicate and spread. So
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it's hard to make a molecule that's toxic
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to the virus without also being toxic to
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the human. And even if you manage
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to do that, the virus could mutate out of reach
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of the drug. Viruses
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are slippery beasts. We have,
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though, had some incredible successes. We eradicated
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smallpox thanks to an effective vaccine, the
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fact that it can't hide out in
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other species and its relatively low mutation
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rate. HIV, on the other
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hand, mutates so quickly that in
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an untreated individual, every possible single
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letter mutation in the virus's genetic
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code could in theory be produced
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in a single day. Despite
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trying for decades, we still don't have
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a vaccine. But we do have an
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effective cocktail of HIV drugs that the
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virus can't easily mutate away from. Unfortunately,
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we are stuck with colds for now.
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But the last few decades have featured
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some entirely game-changing medical breakthroughs like mRNA
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vaccines and CRISPR. CRISPR
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could be particularly promising as an
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antiviral agent because it originally evolved
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in bacteria as an immune defense
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against viruses. In fact, early
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in the COVID-19 pandemic, a research team showed
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that a CRISPR system could degrade coronavirus
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and influenza genomes in our lung
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Shocked by TED. And
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special thanks to Anna Phelan,
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Grace Rubenstein, Maria Lajes, Michelle
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Quint, and Colin Holmes. I'm
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Dr. Shoshana Ungerleiter. Stay well, and
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