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Esther Ajao: A lot of marketers I just say, well look at our AI
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products and sometimes there is no AI in their product at all.
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Antone Gonsalves: Hi, and welcome to our first tech news
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this week show. I'm your host techtarget is Torial. News
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Director Antonio Gonzalez is different difficult these days
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to find a tech company or a startup that doesn't have an AI
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story. But how much of it is real? Evidently not enough. This
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week, the Federal Trade Commission warned the tech
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industry that the agency's keeping a close eye on this AI
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claims. To explain why the FTC raised the red flag is tick
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target editorials AI reporter, Esther Zhao. So what prompted
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the FTC one? Esther Ajao: Well, AI is the all the buzz right now, especially
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when it comes to chat TBT everyone is talking about AI
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everyone is talking about generate generative AI. And so
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the FTC is noticing this, that a lot of marketers are just
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saying, well look at our AI products. And sometimes there is
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no AI in their product at all. So they're like, hold up, you
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got to you got to dial back a little bit.
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Antone Gonsalves: Yeah, that's odd. I mean, it just in terms of
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a business model, if you're advertising, something that
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doesn't exist, I mean, you would think that at some point, you
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get caught up and in that. So is this. So what's prompting this,
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this tactic? I mean, is this a case of rogue marketers is
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intentional misleading by vendors, or an indication of the
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immaturity of AI? Esther Ajao: Well, it's a little bit of both, right? It comes
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like aI washing, which is what an analyst said, it's called AI
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Washington wishes saying that your product is able to do
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something AI powered, when it's actually not able to do so. So
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AI Washington has been around for such a long time, the FTC is
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warning cons, because of the fact that there's just so much
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hype right now. And so because of the hype, marketers are
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jumping on top of this. So the FCC want to say, well, just make
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sure that what you're marketing or advertising as actually
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having AI is doing what it's promising to do. Otherwise,
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you're lying, or you're misleading consumers. So it's
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always been around. It's like, it's always been the practice
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of, I guess, vendors, re hyping hold product and put it an
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advertising like logo on it and be like, this has AI powered.
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But now because of the hype, the FTC is like, we're gonna start
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coming down on it. And also, because of all the news that has
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been happening around the AI Bill of Rights, Bill of Rights,
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and the way that the US has kind of reorganized reorganizing the
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steps a place to take on AI. Antone Gonsalves: What is the what can the FTC do? Fines are?
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Esther Ajao: Basically, yeah, basically, that that is, what
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they're gonna do is they're gonna find you if you're lying.
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I mean, they've already coming. They've already said that
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they're going to be coming pretty hard on people whose
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algorithms are bias. So they like we're gonna step up our
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policing on this. I mean, they're not necessarily like,
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they can only really fine, but there's no like a real
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government agency that's coming against this people who are
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doing this other than the FTC. So it's just a warning to say,
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we know that, hey, AI is all the hype right now. But dial back
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advertising and make sure that your products are doing exactly
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what it's supposed to do, or what you're promising that it's
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going to do. And also, I mean, if the products are not doing
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what is said to do, then what you have is a lot of people who
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are gonna be like, well, AI is a lie, right. And one of the
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things that I found interesting in that one is like, the FTC is
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like, we're not in a science fiction world. We're still in a
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world of reality. We're still in a world of tangibility. So make
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sure that we are all on even playing field we all uneven
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ground. Antone Gonsalves: And the last question is, how does all this
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misinformation affect tech buyers? In the AI industry? I
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think that's well, that's critical for our readers.
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Esther Ajao: How does it affect tech buyers? Well, it makes them
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not want to buy into this Hey, I had I write for I mean, it keeps
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the vendors or the enterprise with me like well, is this
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really AI or is it just puts a bad reputation on the AI front
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and we're back? Where were we began? AI is ticking. I feel
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like AI has taken such a leap in the past year or so, where
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people are starting to actually believe in it. But when you have
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people lying or misleading, that will bring us back a little bit.
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Antone Gonsalves: Next up is security is a top priority at
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all enterprises, but keeping up with the changing tactics of
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cyber criminals is hard. techtarget editorial senior news
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writer Alex caleffi recently reported on how criminals are
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using more than ransomware to extort money from companies. So
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what are cyber criminals, latest extortion tactics?
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Alexander Culafi: It's interesting because in the last
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few years ransomware has evolved and changed quite a bit since it
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became sort of the cyber attack and extortion method of choice
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that's sort of at the top of all of our minds at the moment. So
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the for the past few years, ransomware has operated at a
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double extortion model, meaning that cyber criminals are both
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encrypting data on sort of victim networks. But they're
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also stealing and exfiltrating the data in order to blackmail
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with them with it by basically saying that we'll put your data
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on our leak sites and sort of show it to the world unless you
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pay up, which is unfortunately proven very effective. But that
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has changed a little bit in recent years. I mean, the double
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extortion is still the method of choice. But there are developing
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extortion models that are entering the scene as well. One
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is the triple extortion method in which you're encrypting the
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data, you're stealing the data and threatening victim
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organizations with it. But you're also launching DDoS
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attacks. And then there's also what's called extortion where,
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and in which case, you're not even encrypting the victim
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files, you're just straight up exfiltrating the data, sometimes
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without even using malware, and just using the threat of leaking
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data alone as the method of extortion, sort of skipping
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ransomware altogether. Antone Gonsalves: Okay, you also reported this week, a slight
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decline in ransomware. And also that you reported that
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ransomware is becoming more effective. So why is it
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declined? And how is it improving?
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Alexander Culafi: So there have been a number of vendor reports
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in the last few months, sort of their 2022 research roundup
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reports that are showing slightly declining numbers and
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various aspects of ransomware. IBM had stats in their latest X
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Force threat intelligence Index report, suggesting defenders are
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getting better at stopping attacks. Mandiant saw a 15%
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decrease in the number of ransomware intrusions that
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responded to last year. And both CrowdStrike and COVID. Were
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noted a drop in the average ransomware demand payment in
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2020 to over 2021. Now, that's not to say that ransomware is
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getting significantly better. It's still an enormous problem,
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especially in industrial settings, where I think some
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data suggests it might actually be getting worse there. And
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because of avenues like ransomware as a service, it is
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easier than ever for let's say novice threat actors to conduct
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ransomware attacks. But these numbers are important, because
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it is the first time I've seen in my, you know, three, four
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years on this specific beat where multiple vendor data
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points are moving in lockstep in the right direction, you know,
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away from ransomware getting worse, which is small, but
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still, I think a big deal. Whether those numbers will hold
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or not or get even better. We'll see.
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Antone Gonsalves: And how are cybersecurity pros that are
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battling these threats? Has there been any improvements on
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their side? Alexander Culafi: There have been I would say one of the most
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encouraging things about ransomware, which is not one of
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those things where you can say too many encouraging things is
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that defenders are getting better. Now, that sometimes
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happens because board members are taking notice of ransomware
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and security in general. It could be because unfortunately,
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organizations suffer a cyber attack and they have to learn
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from it. cyber insurance is getting stricter requirements.
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And then the other side of it is that the government has been
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getting more aggressive and I would say becoming more helpful
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in the response to cybersecurity overall in the last few years
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Sissa the cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency,
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they've been enormous force for sort of sharing information to
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defenders. Law enforcement has shown signs of acting
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aggressively against ransomware see beehive bust in January, and
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the Biden administration actually, as we're recording
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this today, on Thursday, they just released their National
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Cybersecurity strategy, which will also hopefully provide good
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momentum against cybercrime. But, you know, threat actors,
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they're also always adapting. They're using diverse extortion
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models, like we said. So it'll be interesting to see how the
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push and pull as it were between defenders and adversaries
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changes over the future. Antone Gonsalves: US lawmakers are struggling to write
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regulations that combat missing from nation in other problems on
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today's social networks, but whatever they come up with, it
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might not be enough to control decentralized social networks
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like Mastodon to help us understand the dilemma.
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Lawmakers face is techtarget editorials government reporter
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McKinsey Holland. Alright, so help our viewers understand what
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decentralize what a decentralized social network is,
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and how does it differ from like Facebook and Twitter.
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Makenzie Holland: So we have reached this place where when
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you log on to the internet, you're likely going to be
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interacting with, you're going to go to Google search, or
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you're going to log into metas, Facebook, Instagram, you're
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interacting with what we call tech giants, kind of these
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platforms that have really come to dominate the Internet as we
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know it today. And they're kind of viewed as in this topic of
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decentralized versus centralized internet, they're kind of viewed
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as these centralized entities that we all deal with when we
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log on to the internet today. And those organizations, you
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know, they're very established, they have a governance
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structure, you know, here's a hierarchy where someone is
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responsible for this operation, or this part of the business.
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There's an established government structure for these
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businesses. So a decentralized social network like Mastodon,
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which it looks like Twitter when you open it, and it rose to
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prominence as an alternative to Twitter, when Elon Musk bought
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the company last year, the difference with a company like
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Mastodon, which you know, identifies as a nonprofit
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organization and a decentralized platform is that there's no
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single authority over it. So if the business does well, you
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know, shareholders aren't benefiting. It's a user and
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volunteer run network. You know, when you create an account, it's
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similar to signing up with an email, you pick, Gmail, Hotmail,
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Yahoo, you pick a topic that you identify with, and then while
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you're able to communicate with others in that email chain,
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there's not like a single one that runs the program. And so
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the kind of idea behind a decentralized social network
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like Macedon, or you see examples of decentralized
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platforms, like cryptocurrencies, these digital
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currencies that are rising as alternatives to traditional
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banking and mana money in the real world, the goal of these
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decentralized platforms and networks is to move power away
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from traditional banking entities from tech giants, these
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established entities, that's kind of the idea behind these
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decentralized networks. Antone Gonsalves: So are they the people who organize these
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networks, are they purposely trying to avoid regulation, and
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if they can spread, they can spread misinformation or
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anything else, and there's no way to regulate because there's
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no central central authority for regulators to go after?
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Makenzie Holland: Sure. I don't think that that's the goal,
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because there are, you know, rules of the road for you know,
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hate speech and like, even a platform like Mastodon, if you
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log on and look at it, there are rules like, okay, you know, this
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kind of speech will not be tolerated, like in that
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particular group. So when you sign up with an account, like
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Mastodon, and you align with a certain topic, and essentially,
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its users and volunteers that will report if there's hate
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speech or misinformation on the platform, and then that gets
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taken down within that individual group that's run by
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these users and volunteers. So I don't think the goal is to run
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away from regulation. The goal is to offer an alternative to
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these established entities because, you know, typically
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when people will go online, and it's like, I want to join social
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media, you have two big options. It's, you know, meta, it's
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Twitter. And so the, these kinds of platforms where there's not,
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you know, like, kind of, like I mentioned is like, the goal is
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to move power out of the hands of these, you know, established
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companies and try to, you know, kind of compete in this
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different environment in a different structure. So, I
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wouldn't say that the goal is to move away from regulation, it's
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just to offer an alternative.
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Antone Gonsalves: That's it for today's show. I hope you enjoyed
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it. And I look forward to bringing you the latest news in
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tech next week. And take care
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