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Welcome to Muskie Talk Monday on Team Rhino Outdoors Muskie Fishing Podcast.

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This week I'm going to talk to Jake Nelson, Flambeau Forest Outfitters, Lake X, Elk River.

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He's a man of many hats. He's involved with all those things and we're going

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to learn a little bit about all of it this week. Talk a little bit, I mean, the update on Lake X is, you know,

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people are wondering what's going on with them and are they still in business and things like that.

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And we'll answer all those questions on this episode. So, and then,

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uh, we're, you know, we're going to go down the elk river thing because elk

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river is a new, they're not new rod company. They're a new rod company to us.

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And they've been around for a while. You know, we, we had some,

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we carried some of their stuff or listed some of their stuff on our website,

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probably, I don't know, four or five years ago.

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And they're back, you know, and for good reason, they're, they're great rods, another great option.

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And we're, we're looking to add more and more of that stuff.

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As we move forward we're looking to be your one-stop

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muskie fishing destination for all the

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gear that you need to catch muskies and at this point though we still understand

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we have work to do so you know putting on our tool belt and which i i know i'm

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familiar with the tool belt and so we're putting on a tool belt we're getting

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to work and you know we won't stop until we are that one-stop muskie fishing

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destination so that's kind of what's.

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On tap for this week's Muskie episode, just talking gear. That's what we do on this podcast.

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I've said it before. If you're looking for to break down new water and talk

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to the latest and greatest guides and what's going on in the water,

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we'll talk that on Backlash Podcast, which I do with my friends Brad and Kerry from Muskie Mayhem Tackle.

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And we do that one every single Wednesday. And you can find it on all these same platforms that you find this podcast.

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And you know but moving forward this summer i mean

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i certainly plan to continue to put out episodes of this podcast and

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what we'll do is we'll talk about what's working on the water what baits are

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working but it's still going to be revolving mostly around gear we'll

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talk to you know the guides on on gear wise what's

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working i won't necessarily break down you know which weed beds or how

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deep they are or whatever we'll just talk about you know what's putting

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fish in the net and then so that's kind of how that's going to roll

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moving forward i hope to make this a continual thing i

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don't even know i think this is probably week six seven that

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i put a podcast out in a row which i've never done before on this podcast

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so it's the exciting times for the team rhino

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tell a friend you know let people know that this is

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fishing adventure make sure you check out team rhino outdoors.com we

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you know i talked about earlier we're continuing to push the boundaries as

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far as how much inventory we've had and you know this it's springtime so we're

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gearing up right i mean many seasons are just around the corner the southern

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wisconsin season i think by the time you hear this is only only roughly three

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weeks maybe four weeks at the most out and so you know it's coming quick april is the.

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Last month you have to try to put those final touches on your boats and your

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gear and make sure that things are in tip-top shape before we get cranking.

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So it's pretty cool, exciting times for musky anglers as everybody looks forward to a new season.

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But anyways, I'm going to go dial up my conversation I just had with Jake Nelson.

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My guest this week is Jake Nelson, Flambeau Forest Outfitters and Lake X Lures.

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I know jake isn't necessarily like the

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owner of lake x but uh jake you're

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very instrumental in what comes out

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of the lake x shop these days from what i understand and thank you for coming

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on today hi jeff and yeah thank you very much we we do as much as we can yeah

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well i mean obviously we all know like your lake x is a small business family

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ran business friend ran business essentially because I'm assuming that you're not related to John,

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but you're, you know, involved in his operation.

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And, you know, like sometimes priorities change and things shift a little bit.

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So, you know, I just want to have you on. First of all, we'll talk a little bit about Lake X today.

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We'll talk a little bit about Elk River because you're involved in that as well.

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But first, Jake, before we go down any of those roads, let's talk a little bit

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about Flambeau Forest Outfitters. Why don't you give us a quick,

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you know, introduction to that? Because not only are you into muskies, but you're also into some hunting stuff too.

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Yeah, I've had Flambeau Forest Outfitters since 2003 and basically started muskie

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fishing with or started out guiding muskies and then got into bear hunting.

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We don't really do a whole lot of that anymore, but one of our bigger things

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is upland bird hunting too. So it's kind of in the area that we live in it's just it's a you know we're

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in the grouse capital of the world here and and people from all over the world and and all over the U.S.

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Come to hunt and if people are listening to this podcast and they're into hunting

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well how do they go about getting in touch with you or learning more about what you have to offer.

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I guess the best way to get ahold of me is on Facebook messenger or a lot of

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people just text me, which I'll give you my phone number later,

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but we're in the middle of nowhere here.

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So cell service is terrible and it's hard to get back to people right away.

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And, and that's kind of the way it goes, I guess, living in the North.

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Sure. Yeah, absolutely. So if you're on Facebook, check out Jake Nelson and

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he can get you in the, in the rotation probably to go shoot some stuff this

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year. Are you doing any guiding for muskies yet or are you opening for muskies?

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Yep. Yep. I don't, I mean, so basically a lot of people know John Carlson,

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John Kolcheski and me, we do tons and tons of group trips throughout the summer.

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And then I've got a clientele that I've had since, you know,

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basically day one that just, you know, got a great group of guys and we kind

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of, we kind of stay a little low on the radar and, and just have a great time. Right.

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All right. Well, let's talk about it. I've heard the rumors on Facebook.

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You know, we kind of addressed it slightly in the beginning there on Lake X lures.

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What's the latest on Lake X? Because, you know, they've been,

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I guess, hard to find, but I didn't seem to be overly concerned by it.

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I didn't even think once that anybody would think that you guys were out of

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business because, you know, you run the guide service, right?

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And that's kind of what you guys do to fill the summertime.

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And then you build fishing lures in the wintertime. and

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then it seems like once may or whatever late may comes rolling

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around you guys are back on the water and you know fishing lure

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production kind of slows down until the following season so

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like when i saw sold out everywhere i didn't

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necessarily even question it at all what's going on with lake x we're working

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we're we you know we're always working throughout the winter sometimes seven

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days a week there's three of us basically it's very small business still you

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know just Just trying to do as much as we can and still make a great product.

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And we are getting baits out to retailers right now and hopefully a bunch more in the near future.

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And, you know, let's talk a little bit about that, Jake. You said,

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you know, you're still a small business and you guys hand tune,

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hand touch these things, hand paint them. I mean, they're not coming off an assembly line over in China.

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So, like, let's talk a little bit about that. Yeah, there's basically three people that touch every single one of them.

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We still, to this day, hand tune every single one when they're done,

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which is, if you can imagine, 2,000 baits sitting on a rack and tuning every

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one of them, that takes some time. So, but the good thing about that is the same three people make the baits and

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hopefully you're going to get some really, really good consistency out of that.

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Yes, absolutely. And it, you know, it seems like it doesn't,

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you know, sometimes you get that bait and it's like, that one is the one, right?

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But it seems like with, you know, Lake X lures, especially, I mean,

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super popular fat bastard, they all sound the same, they all run.

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And that's due to that tuning process that you're talking about.

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Absolutely. And, and, you know, we put a, we put a ton of pride into building every one of them.

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And, and, you know, there, there's been a lot of blood, sweat and tears through

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the years, getting them done, getting them done in time for shows,

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getting them out to dealers. And, and honestly, we've, John and I have been guides forever,

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and we don't want to let that part of our lives go. Being out on the water makes us, you know, better in the shop.

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It helps us build new things. It helps us think about things. things that's kind of

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uh our attitude towards it yeah and

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you know the thing about all that is you know

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like i said it's still a family ran business it's still

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a very you know a personal thing for you guys but let's

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talk about the early days of lake x i remember you know going to a show i was

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at the show same as you guys were it was the one i think about is the minnesota

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show john shows up he's got these these top water baits and at the time they

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seemed quite a bit bigger especially when you got to like the cannonball junior

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and the cannonball cannonball seemed ridiculous at the time.

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And he's offering up a hundred pack of these, a four pack of these things for a hundred bucks.

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Like at that point, did any of you guys ever think that the lake X craze would

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get to where it was in say, I don't know. What was that?

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2016, 2017, 2018 is the area.

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No, no, we were just fishermen. That was, it was nuts. And you know, I think that,

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you know, social media did a lot of that was kind of the beginning of those days.

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Really got rocking. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was incredible.

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Like I said, the first time I saw cannonballs, like, you know,

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I'm sure you guys got some unbelievable comments on it, you know,

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like, ah, nothing's ever going to eat that.

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You know, why are you guys throwing footballs? I'm sure there was just a bunch

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of different thought processes behind it.

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Yep. Yeah. And lo and behold, look at all the people in Minnesota throwing those things these days.

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And we still don't, we still don't make a ton of them, but it's a,

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It's kind of a vicious little animal when, when the crazy top water bite happened,

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you know, throughout July and August. Yeah.

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Well, the thing about it is, is like your average angler is not throwing that

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thing. I don't feel. No, no.

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But honestly, it, you know, with today's equipment, it's not that hard to throw big stuff.

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Oh no, for sure. I mean, whatever rod and, you know, real combination you're

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using to throw a big rubber, I'm sure you could throw a cannonball. No problem.

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Yep. yep yeah i'd be willing to bet it comes in a

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lot easier than a pound or two yes sir yep it

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stays on top all right we're talking about the biggest bait

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in the lineup let's talk a little bit about the smallest bait in the lineup because

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you are the one that tells me all the time about the little b little bastard

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and i think it's b-a-s-s and that is because it's a multi-species bait but a

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lot of musky anglers i think overlook it for big fish and you've caught an awful

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lot of big fish what What is it about the little bee you like so much?

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Well, I mean, we spent probably two years getting it going, and it wasn't a

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very fun bait to get it perfect.

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But the testing on it, when we finally got it rolling, it was made for bass.

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And, I mean, it's amazing what the bass do when they eat it.

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It's kind of like a muskie eating a cannonball. They just annihilate it.

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But in the meantime, we started catching muskies on it, and it was incredible.

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Edible they just come up suck it down and they're

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all over it it's kind of like a you know the small bucktail bite

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it's kind of the same thing you know in like

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let's just say let's talk about speed of retrieval are you retrieving this thing

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faster for muskies or pretty much uh you know like a moderate retrieve oh just

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a very steady retrieve you could slow them down too at night but you know just

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a medium retrieve on it just get that nice pop going and you can have obviously

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like like our other baits, you can put a split ring on it and make it a ticker. And.

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Uh muskies have been all over that i had the first

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prototype that i had in my boat just

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one bait caught 28 muskies in one summer it's not

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a bad summer i mean that's a lot more than

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most people are catching on all their baits yeah and you just it's it's awesome

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i mean i'm i'm an elk river guy and and we have a 7.9 hybrid x heavy it's like

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a it's like a you know big bat big Big bass type rod slash small bait, small musky bait rod.

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And it's awesome. I mean, people in the boat, they love throwing it because

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it's so, you know, you don't kill yourself all day throwing big stuff.

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I think if I get on the stick over here, I actually have that bait that we'll

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be adding on our web or that rod on our website here any, any day now.

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I mean, I, I always have two, sometimes three of those rods in the boat.

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Cause you know, especially after long day, I throw them big stuff.

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They like to throw a small topwater. Well, we'll transition over to the Elk River stuff because I know you're heavily

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involved in that as well, but let's finish up our talk about the little bee.

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As far as leader material, will that change the performance of it?

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Can I pretty much throw this on? If I have an eight-foot heavy musky rod, can I use that as well?

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Let's talk a little bit about that. you can use it

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we like to use like a you know a small six

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inch leader and bring it

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back to the boat you know try to keep some of your line out of the water you'll

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just mess with your rod angle a little bit and you'll be able to tell where

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your sound is i've always been told that and i can't say that i play with it

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that much i've quite honestly i have so much success with the fat b that it

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or yeah the fat b that i'm i don't go back to the little b that often but But yeah,

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and don't be afraid to throw it in the spring.

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That's a great spring raid. You know, Dr. Evil is too.

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You know, we have lots of flowage type stuff around here and rivers and,

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and it just, it literally catches everything.

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You know, one quick question on Lake X stuff. So you have the little B,

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the Dr. Evil, the fat B, Cannonball Jr. and Cannonball.

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Like, is there a time and place that like, is there, is there certain conditions

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you're looking for where you're going to throw one over the other?

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Like, what's your thought process on that? Because obviously you have access to all of them.

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So I'm sure you have some of them in your boat at all times.

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Like, how do you decide which day you're picking up a cannonball junior over a fat B?

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If I see aggressiveness in any type of fish, then we're putting big stuff on.

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Cause then you're, you know, you have that, you have that chance of getting a big one going.

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All right. And you know, if they're lazy follows on a cannonball junior or a

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fat bastard down, keep downsizing or start throwing rubber.

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We make a lot of that too. Yes, you do, which we didn't talk about,

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but you know, the toad is a, I don't want to call it a staple yet,

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but it's, it's actually kind of like. Underutilized tool, I would imagine. Let's talk about it for a minute.

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We don't have any in stock right now, or very few, but we will be getting some,

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I'm assuming, at some point. But how do people work this?

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So it's not, I mean, you're not ripping rubber with this thing.

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It's more of a soft-popping pull on it.

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You imagine a steering wheel, you want to pull from 10 to 2.

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So you're pulling it from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock.

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So it's more of an up hopping motion. And honestly, you get tired throwing it,

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you're working too hard. All right. That's fair. So it's not like, you know, a lot of guys,

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they like to anglers, I should say, they like to, you know, rip bulldogs and

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they'll make it, they'll make the pull from what, like nine to three,

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you know, pretty, pretty long, aggressive pulls.

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This is not long, aggressive pulls.

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No, no. And it's super, you know, don't, don't wear yourself out.

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You're working too hard. So that and then you know ice guys

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put some weight on it let her let her go

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let her go down there get down on their faces a little bit well

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lots of cool tools from lake x lures

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it's good to hear that you guys will have retailers uploaded

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again so you know people people have their

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favorite baits for this this upcoming season for places

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they have seasons otherwise um you know we do do have

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a handful of lakex lures online right now we

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have we've gotten some top waters from you guys in the last two weeks

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so we're not completely empty so if you're looking for a

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few top water baits right now we have them hopefully you know if things work

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out well we'll have some custom colors getting restocked at some point yet this

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spring but all right jake moving on let's talk a little bit about elk river

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you know i i would say that's it's a common name for many musky anglers but not,

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it's not a household name. It's not St.

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Croix, right? And let's talk a little bit about what makes Elk River special.

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Elk River has been in business for 16 years now, I believe, and I've been with them for 12.

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And, you know, Elk River is kind of a, you know, a very similar story to Lake

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X where Mark Maloney is the owner and he is, he's brilliant.

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He's, he's a great great rod builder and other things that people don't know about.

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And, you know, same, same type of deal. Three people touch the rods.

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And if you got a problem with it, he built it and he's going to make it right.

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Yeah, that's awesome. It's in, you know, they're all, everything's built up

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there again in the Northwoods, Wisconsin. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of, kind of neat. We have, we have Elk River,

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we have Lake X here, we have Ross's Sport Shop and, and all kinds of cool stuff. So, yeah.

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And with, you know, with the Elk River stuff, obviously you could,

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you know, we're starting to get some of them on online here,

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but you can also stop into the store up there in Phillips, right? Yeah, for sure.

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Yep. We're right, right on highway 13 as you're just getting out of,

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out of town on the North end of it.

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And you open Tuesday through Saturday, I believe are the hours right now.

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So, but yeah, I mean, we're really pumped to have you guys on board and it's

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just a, it's just a great rod company with, you know, really good people all around it.

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So right you know if you

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if you know people aren't familiar with elk river

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not only do you do muskie rods but you guys have

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rods of for every species absolutely yep

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there's a there's a three different lines of

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mostly walleye and and panfish

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there's there's some bad stuff but it's kind

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of our it's our bread and butter they're they're they've really taken off

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here in the last seven or eight years and kind

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of go all over the place now so it's pretty neat well

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it sounds like at the recent wisconsin muskie expo you guys had no

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troubles moving a bunch of rods so it's great to see the support for

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you know small wisconsin-based companies as well

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yeah and it's you know it's it's so neat to

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see it because the early days we'd go to you know like

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the chicago muskie show or some of the other big multi-species shows

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and and just you know trying to

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just show people the rod to get it in their hands and now you know

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10 years later it's pretty neat what's people have

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been using them and and they've got such a good reputation that it's not very

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hard to move them anymore right well let's talk a little bit about the musky

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rod lineup i know you guys have a few different styles out there like what should

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what's a good all-around musky rod you know in the in the elk river lineup.

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I would say the 8'6 heavy is kind of our go-to.

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I'd say that's, you know, 75% of the muskie fishermen, they have one of them

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in their boat or more than that. If you like a longer rod, then it'd be the 9' heavy. So that'd be your go-to all-around rods.

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And then we also have, you know, all the other niche type stuff too.

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Sure. You know, like, you know, you were talking about throwing toads.

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Like would be the 8'6 heavy, would that be a good one for throwing like the regular size toad?

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Yep. For sure. That's a great rod for that. Yep.

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And then obviously you, you mentioned what you, you know, you were throwing little bees on.

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So we'll have that one on our website as well. I believe the eight foot six

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heavy is one that I will as well. And this one's going to come out tomorrow morning. It's Sunday again.

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And so, you know, I won't have these probably uploaded by that time,

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but soon we've been working on it. We got a lot of products in the, in the, you know, the store at the same time.

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So we're, we're working through all that and the elk

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river stuff is high on my my priority list to make sure

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that it's available to consumers here real soon and i mean right

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as of right now we just have the trolling rods listed which you know

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let's talk about those if you're into trolling that's a great it looks like

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a phenomenal rod it it is it's a

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it's a glass hybrid rod and

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i mean it if you want to pull a board with

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a headlock on it no problem if you want to use it

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as a sucker rod in the fall don't be afraid to

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put the screws to it in november it is just it's

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bulletproof it's it's super fun to have

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in the boat for sure yeah and you know with

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that like you said that hybrid rod um you know you're not having

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to worry about it exploding in your hands on the hook set in the in the cold

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weather of fall yes and that and it's got a very soft tip on it so not only

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can you tell how your your cranks are running but in the fall with suckers if

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you hit if you had one little piece of weed on it you can tell by the way that rod is moving.

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It's incredible. Yeah. I, I mean, I love playing around with different rods.

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I, yeah, I know I'm going to have a few of them in my boat at some point here

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this, this season as well. I, I'm, I'm always, I always like playing with new toys we get in the shop.

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I think it's one of my weaknesses, right? It's like kryptonite, you know, I'm always enticed by new stuff and it's,

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I just like playing around with it. Plus, you know, when, you know, customers, they ask me, you know,

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what I think about this or what I think about that. It's always good to have,

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you know, hands, I have had my hands on it.

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I can tell you exactly what I think of it versus me going like,

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oh, well, I've heard this about it. You know, I can give you my honest feedback on it. Absolutely. For sure.

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Yeah. So we have, we have a seven, six jerkbait rod.

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And so that's, we still like to make that shorter rod, you know,

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for me fishing a lot of the flowogy type stuff and doing a lot of sight fishing

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and two feet of water. I like having that short rod still.

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We have a 7-11. That's another rod I would consider more of a jerkbait rod,

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but you can use it for basically everything.

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And the 8-6 we talked about, and then the 9-footer, heavy, extra heavy.

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And then we also have the telescopics, which have really been a big deal here

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in the last, you know, four to five years.

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And it seems like they're, you know, for a while, they're all telescopic rods

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people were having problems with. And I feel like we have something now that, that is pretty awesome.

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You can throw it right in your truck if you're going to go fish with your friend.

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And, you know, I fished a, you know, a zillion hours on them and I absolutely love them.

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So, well, you know, the other thing too about telescopic rods is everybody,

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you know, a lot in the beginning, people weren't, they were like,

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I don't know if I like that. But nowadays, if you're living outside of the speedy zone, whether it be,

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you know, speedy zone is Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa,

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and then there's a few patchy spots in between there.

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If you live outside of there, you can't get a one piece rod shipped to you for a reasonable price.

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I mean, like a one piece rod to that's over eight feet to let's just say Pennsylvania is $140.

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You know, that's just incredible how expensive shipping of the rods has gotten.

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And so therefore, you know, anglers have had to adapt to that telescopic rod

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because like that's what they can get for a reasonable price.

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Nobody, I mean, I shouldn't say nobody, very few people want to pay $140 additional

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on top of a rod to get it shipped for a one piece rod.

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Most of them are like, yeah, I think I can handle the telescopic.

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And they've come a long ways in the last handful of years, like you had mentioned.

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Yeah. And that's a real, that's shipping part. That's a sad deal because of

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course we want people to have 10 footers and nine sixes and you know,

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everybody wants a 10 footer or lots of people want a 10 foot rod,

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but that's, unless you're going to drive from Pennsylvania to team Rhino or elk river,

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that's kind of out of the option, out of the question. Yeah.

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Well, I was going to ask you that. I mean, is that, is that a trend that you

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are, you know, we hear about it all the time, longer rods, longer rods, longer rods.

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But when I go to shows, like I try to talk to customers, they're like,

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oh, which rod do you think you'd recommend? And a lot of times I'm using stuff that's eight, six, nine foot, nine, six, even.

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And, you know, they're like, nope, that's too, that's too long.

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I don't want to do that. I'm still looking at eight, you know,

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eight foot and under type rods. So like we hear a lot about long rods, but is that still the trend?

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I mean, are, are many anglers choosing the longest rod in a lot of instances

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or, or are you still selling a lot of stuff that's, you know,

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in that eight foot range? Eight, six, all eight, six is like the king for us.

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I, you know, you go to a different state, it's a little bit different.

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You know, Minnesota, they like to have longer rod for a lot of their stuff.

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You know, it all kinds of kind of depends on the areas that you're in.

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If that makes sense. yeah i mean

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and i was wondering about that if it was more geographical you

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know state by state type of thing you know the minnesota anglers

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there's but i think it's also kind of a part of what they throw too i mean i've

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done reports before on when we go to a show in in an area minnesota's one particular

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i mean i look in that stuff and i go they're heavy heavy into big rubber and

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and blades So for, you know, longer rods,

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I would imagine it's, it probably lends itself right into that perfect for throwing,

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you know, blades and big rubber. Whereas like you go to Wisconsin and, you know, we're not, yeah,

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we throw a lot of rubber and we throw a lot of blades, but we also throw a lot of topwaters.

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We also throw a lot of jerk baits. So there's, you know, I think some of it's

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based off of what the angler is using as far as the baits are concerned too.

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And that's probably why they lean towards longer rods in Minnesota. Yeah.

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Yeah, I, I agree with you. And they, you know, they've got such big water that,

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you know, you're going down a weed, a weed line for a mile and it,

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it's not as much pinpoint casting with that.

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They're just trying to bomb cast a lot of stuff and it's, it's sometimes it's

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easier to fish rod and a bigger boat.

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Yeah, exactly. The bigger boat things, probably one of them as well.

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I mean, we don't, you know, we do a big water in Wisconsin, but for the most

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part, if you had a, you know, a 16 foot deep V aluminum boat,

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you can handle it on a lot of the water that we have here in Wisconsin.

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Obviously you'd have to really watch your, uh, the weather. If you're taking

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that on the green Bay, I've taken mine. I have, you know, a eight, six Lund Fury XL.

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And there's times I just don't want to take out my toughy out to green Bay is

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like, everything's loaded in the Lund already. I'm like, I'm going to just take that. And I mean, you can do it.

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You just got to pay attention to what you're doing there you do like if the

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wind shifts or things start looking crappy you better bail fast absolutely yep

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yep i got the i have a 619 ranger.

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And i think i have more fun fishing in my uh

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16 foot flat bottom well that's

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like you know early days i i shouldn't shouldn't

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say even say early days like i had a ranger 619 as well and

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i used used to do that but then all right before i

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i sold it i had because some of

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the landings i was fishing up in northern wisconsin i couldn't get

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that boat into it it was just the landings were too crappy and

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so i had a god what was that like a 15 foot

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toughy it's like a esox magnum

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but it wasn't the magnum and it was a roustabout or whatever the heck

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it was and i'm like i put more fish in that boat than i

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do my 619 like why do i even have the 619 around i'm playing around in this

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thing all the time just on smaller bodies of water and i didn't care what i

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took it into i beat the crap out of it because it didn't matter to me i wasn't

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worried about it rivers and all sorts of stuff you just let her chew and see

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what happens absolutely we got so much gravel that,

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right taking the flat bottom down the gravel road doesn't hurt as much as glass.

28:11

Absolutely all right jake well i think we covered most of

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what we intended to cover tonight we got got a good background on

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on lake x and what they're up to introduction into elk

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river rods you know once again for people that

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are looking to get in touch with you watch cover i mean it does i'm assuming

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lake x is still putting stuff out on social and elk river's got social media

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as well and then do you have any social media for your flambeau forest outfitters

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yep i've got a facebook page flambeau forest outfitters and and then elk river's

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got elk Booker for Custom Rods, their website there. And...

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The best way to get a hold of me is Facebook Messenger, or my phone number is 715-820-3156.

28:55

Awesome. Well, Jake, I want to thank you for taking time out of your Sunday afternoon.

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I know you unfortunately watched Iowa girls lose today, and it was disappointing.

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I know. I feel for the people of Iowa. My life will continue on.

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But anyways, fun game, fun season to watch.

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I mean, the incredible talent on both sides of the court today.

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But I want to thank you for taking time out of your Sunday to talk fishing with

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me. And I hope that you have yourself a unbelievable season.

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I'm sure we'll be in touch. And I want to thank our listeners again for tuning

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in to another episode of our podcast.

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And we'll be out with a new one again next week, Monday.

29:34

Awesome. Yeah, you guys, I appreciate it. And have a good season also. Thanks, Jake.

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