We talk with Jordan Lewis, Tina Ellsworth, and Ovie Oghenejobo about the measurements and accountability needed to accelerate progress in the completion of the American Civil Rights movement.  We identify and discuss areas where people try to placate rather than address the issues and policies tied to systemic racism.  If you would like to get in touch with our pane or give comments or feedback, our twitter addresses are Brett Coffman @brettcoffman, Jordan Lewis @stephon_jordan, Tina Ellsworth @DrTinaEllsworth, and Ovie Oghenejobo @MrOghenejobo.  

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