As the audio industry grapples with its own response to the Black Lives Matter movement, we talk with two people who have insider knowledge of the issues at hand - and some sharp ideas about what needs to be done.

They are Jay Connor, a writer and podcaster based in Los Angeles, and Chrystal Genesis, a journalist, producer and host from London.

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*Links*

Jay Connor

http://www.theextraordinarynegroes.com

https://www.theroot.com/author/thejayconnor

https://twitter.com/NotJayConnor

https://www.instagram.com/deathtoadverbs

Chrystal Genesis

https://stancepodcast.com

https://twitter.com/ChrystalGenesis

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Listening recommendations 

Floodlines

https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/floodlines/

Prison Bag

https://prisonbag.com/podcast

Kermode and Mayo’s Film Review

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lvdrj

The Californian Century

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-californian-century/id1499112385

Seeing White 

http://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white