In this episode of Talking Under Water, the hosts discuss how the Water Coalition Against PFAS testified on Capitol Hill during a PFAS hearing; share news about California's Department of Water Resources completing a groundwater mapping project; and the White House’s plans to work with state administrations to address cyber risk in the water industry. Finally, this week's interview is with Andrew Ginter, vice president of industrial security for Waterfall Security Solutions. Ginter talks about cybersecurity risk and what utilities need to think about when upgrading systems to smart technology. 

Show Notes:   

• Waterfall Security 2024 Threat Report 
• Engineering-grade OT Security — A Manager’s Guide 
• Cybersecurity for small water systems by Andrew Ginter  
• Water coalition testifies before Congress on importance of PFAS exemption for utility comapnies

Timestamps:  

• Host introductions | 1:05
• Episode summary | 1:19
• Water Coalition Against PFAS testifies in D.C.
• California Department of Water Resources groundwater mapping project | 4:04
• EPA invites governors to meeting about cybersecurity for water systems | 5:11
• Interview begins | 6:28
• WaterFall Securities Threat Report | 7:16
• Cyberattacks in the water industry | 10:11
• What is different now? | 11:32
• What exactly is ransomware? | 15:50
• Cybersecurity always carries a cost | 20:05
• What poses the greatest threat to security? | 21:16
• What is too risky to conduct in the cloud? | 26:13
• Finding the balance between smart systems and security | 34:49
• Housekeeping | 41:41