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I'm Jason Hartwood, and with me again is Jacob

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Litten.

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Today, we're going to talk about the free

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agent acquisitions, that Brad Holmes

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brought in for us. Also going to talk about some

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of the resigned players That we got this

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offseason and then but what

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we're going to skip over is the extensions.

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We're gonna leave the Jerry Golf, Sewell

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extensions for another podcast. So if you're expecting

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to hear that in here Gonna

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leave that for the next one. So you got that to look forward

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to so Before

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we get into all of that got a little

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housekeeping Stuff we'd

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like to go over so just

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on a whim last night, I went on to Reddit, went

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to the Detroit Lions subreddit and

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just posted a thing about our new podcast.

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And. Oh, when

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I can say I was amazed by the

1:19

response, I think Jacob and I were both like

1:21

dumbfounded, um, by what happened,

1:24

the posts that, I put on there, as

1:26

of right now in like 24 hours

1:29

since I posted has been seen by

1:31

17, 000 it's gotten a lot

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of comments. There was a lot of people

1:35

that viewed that and went over and checked

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out our podcasts. And I really

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appreciate the feedback that we got.

1:42

It was, just very humbling,

1:44

to be honest with you, uh, just

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to have people, you know, tell you that

1:49

they like hearing what they're hearing. And,

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um, you know, for Jacob and I, this is kind of just

1:54

like a passion project where we're just have fun

1:56

with it. We don't have any designs on, being

1:58

millionaires and retiring or anything. This is

2:00

just two guys that like to talk.

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Lions football and it's

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really nice to hear other people that

2:07

support us and Wish us success

2:09

and wish to hear future episodes.

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So it's very humbling I really appreciate

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it. And I know Jacob does too.

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So I You know, again,

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um, many shout outs

2:21

and many thanks to the people on Reddit that,

2:24

you know, helped make my night

2:26

and make Jacob a nice day that we saw

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more and more people download our podcast.

2:30

So that was very exciting. And we

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were sharing that excitement at work today. And, the

2:35

people that work with us

2:36

made work very fun.

2:38

did, um, Yeah.

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a lot of love from the Lions fans, so it's been,

2:43

it's been nice.

2:44

So we, we both really appreciate

2:46

it. Much love to everybody out there for

2:48

that. There was a couple of questions that came

2:50

up in the Reddit that I thought I'd just like,

2:52

kind of go over. Um, a lot of people want

2:54

to know, how long are the episodes going to

2:56

be? We plan on,

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you We try to keep it under an hour

3:01

and we know your time is valuable. You

3:03

don't want to hear us rambling on about things, or

3:05

maybe you do, I don't, I don't know. But I'm thinking

3:07

most people would like to, want to do it

3:09

on a commute, so we're going to try to keep it under an

3:12

hour. Some may be shorter, occasionally

3:14

maybe, they weren't. Uh, a longer

3:16

talk, but that's what our, that's what we plan to

3:18

be, uh, during this off season, we plan

3:21

on maybe doing, just one podcasts

3:23

a week while we're figuring this thing

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out, that's where we're, we're

3:27

probably probably going to set, but once we get

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to the season Jacob and I want

3:32

to do a little more frequently, probably shorter

3:34

ones, you know, just more reactionary to what we're

3:36

seeing in the games. What, you know,

3:38

what Dan Campbell saying in his press conference,

3:40

those types of things. The last, uh,

3:43

podcast was what? Like 50 minutes, Jacob,

3:45

something like that. Is that correct?

3:47

It was pretty long.

3:48

Yeah.

3:49

of information in there.

3:50

Right. And so we really, when

3:52

we did that, it was like over an hour and 20

3:54

minutes. So we cut out, I think

3:57

some pretty interesting stuff. We had a really

3:59

good talk about the Jared Goff

4:01

chant and I'm not going to really spoil

4:03

that because we are going to save that for a future

4:05

podcast. Save the audio on

4:07

that. So yeah. We just want to be

4:09

respectful of your time. So we're just trying to,

4:12

just do it right. But your feedback's always

4:14

great. Um, right now we're

4:16

just kind of in the Reddit. We're getting our socials up. Jacob's

4:19

kind of in charge of that. So it's taken

4:22

longer than, you know, it should, because

4:24

it's Jacob, you know, and he's,

4:27

Wow.

4:27

Jacob, I wanted to let everyone know

4:29

that before this podcast, I took,

4:31

you know, Some Motrin because I

4:34

carried him all day at work and now I got to carry him through

4:36

this podcast. So I, I'll

4:38

make sure I let everyone know I took some Motrin

4:41

so my back would be good. Um, we

4:43

think about that, Jacob.

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You're hilarious.

4:45

Yeah, everyone knows that now.

4:47

can tell that you're, you're, uh,

4:50

recording your lines way after the actual

4:52

podcast.

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No, no, no, no, no, no,

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and touch and try to make himself sound smarter.

4:57

no. I thought of that one at work and I saved

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it for right then. So take that

5:01

buddy. Um,

5:06

oh man, that's all right.

5:09

Yep, so I'll get and I can cut all that out

5:11

because that's not true. Uh, anyways,

5:13

uh,

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what you do.

5:15

Before we go any further is there anything

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you want to add on the Reddit stuff or the

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downloads or anything, Jacob?

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No, just, we appreciate the love. fans.

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It's a nice community. We're just trying to do something positive

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and uh, you know The response has been great so far.

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So just really appreciate it.

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Yeah, the only thing else I'd like to add is

5:33

that guys over at the Honolulu

5:35

cheese podcast or Detroit

5:37

Lions podcast features two Detroit

5:39

Lions fans and one Packer fan.

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They reached out to us gave us some

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feedback on our podcast. Podcast, I

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returned the favor for them. We plan on

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doing a collaboration with them at some point in

5:51

the future, but it was really nice that they reached

5:53

out to us. Um, that's what

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Jacob and I want for

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this podcast. We're not against anybody.

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I don't really think I'm in competition with anybody.

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Jacob and I are just here doing what we like.

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This is just for fun for us.

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already don't like the Packers guy.

6:10

Yeah, that.

6:11

don't know him. I haven't had a chance to listen yet But

6:13

you know what?

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I know those guys deserve a medal for

6:16

having a Packers guy on their podcast.

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I, you know,

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I don't know how they put up with it.

6:22

yeah, I know. That's something

6:24

we're going to have to ask them when we actually talk with

6:26

them. So, you know, if they get on our podcast,

6:28

that'd be probably the first question. Don't you think?

6:30

I wonder if they have somebody like you that just edits out all

6:32

the bad stuff that they don't want to

6:34

Ooh, man. Shots

6:36

fired. So let's move on to the

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talk of the day here. We're going to talk about the free agents,

6:40

the trade acquisitions, and the resigned players

6:42

Alliance got in the off season So

6:45

Jacob, I'm going to just turn it over to

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you. However you want to start this, whether

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you want to list out the players or if you don't want to just,

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I know you got some notes on each player, so I'm

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going to kind of let you just run this and I'll

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just jump in, um, when

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necessary. All right.

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We can go down, for some of the more popular signings,

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and I guess just go through our thoughts

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on each one. The first one I have

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on my list is not a signing, but it was somebody

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that we trade for is Carlton Davis. Obviously

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this was before the draft so we didn't

7:13

know how the draft was gonna pan out, but that was

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another cornerback, someone

7:17

with experience. I think someone

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that would fit in well in the locker

7:21

room. Now, I

7:23

won't say when we first got him I was too excited

7:26

about him possibly being

7:28

number one coroner and having to take over. We

7:31

had all the things going on with Cam Sutton. We weren't sure

7:33

how that was going to pan out. Cam was

7:35

up and down. It wasn't great. We definitely

7:37

knew that we needed to upgrade there anyway. So,

7:40

I don't know if you can necessarily call this one an upgrade,

7:42

but after the way the draft went, a

7:45

depth piece. You know, solid

7:48

veteran presence, good teammate,

7:50

good locker room, do you think that he had

7:52

to talk to Craig Reynolds when he got here about that

7:54

block from before?

7:56

You know, that had to be, that's

7:58

gotta be brought up in that locker room. Don't you think?

8:00

Like, uh, You know,

8:02

for those,

8:03

Do they just act like it didn't happen?

8:05

Oh, no. I mean, that's a, that

8:07

is a locker.

8:08

see it on every highlight reel.

8:10

It's a competitive locker room. Carlton Davis

8:12

probably said something to Craig. I'm sure.

8:14

I mean, how could he not, for those

8:16

of you don't, that don't know, I'm

8:18

sure most of you do, but you know, that

8:21

Craig Reynolds block on the Amarillo touchdown

8:23

in the Tampa Bay buck game, and it's Carlton

8:26

Davis that Craig Reynolds blew up.

8:28

In all honesty, I don't see how that's Carlton Davis's

8:30

fault because Craig Reynolds came out of nowhere

8:34

to just smoke him. So yeah,

8:37

that's so funny because I, I haven't

8:39

thought about that in a little bit. That's great that you brought that

8:42

up.

8:42

Right? what it would look like if I was blocking

8:45

you.

8:46

Huh? That's probably true. Um,

8:49

age difference. Uh, you know, I already got

8:51

my walker, so, you know, I'd be ready

8:53

to get right back up. You

8:55

can hit me with my walker. I can't get away from you.

8:59

Last point I had to make there is that, uh, you know,

9:01

we're still, we're still

9:03

taking on a cap hit for cam Sutton.

9:05

So we actually are going to pay him more than we're paying

9:07

Carlton Davis this year

9:09

yeah, I,

9:10

be on the team.

9:11

Yeah, and I think from what

9:13

I understand is, the Lions have that

9:15

an appeal that we might get that money

9:17

back, but that's from all accounts, that takes a while

9:20

and we're not going to be able to get any of that money back

9:22

until next season. For right now, I mean,

9:24

that could be a bonus for next year's cap if we

9:26

get any of that Cam Sutton money back,

9:28

but that is really funny that, you know, he

9:30

is making more money than Carleton Davis,

9:33

our new number one corner. Um,

9:35

thing I'd like to add about Carlton Davis is that

9:37

from what I've read and from what, I understand he's really

9:39

good at man coverage. And I

9:42

think that's where AG really wants,

9:44

we'd rather have people out there in man coverage.

9:46

Those corners can look so much different

9:49

between man and zone and, some are better

9:51

at one thing over the other. Looking at his

9:53

numbers net last year, they may not totally

9:55

fit. I'll also say that he

9:58

has an injury history past, so

10:00

that is concerning for me. The

10:02

draft kind of like settled those

10:05

fears down a little bit for me with

10:07

that, as far as like the, you know,

10:09

the

10:10

for him to perform

10:10

right, and there's just more depth there. Just

10:13

based on him talking, I know that Carleton

10:15

Davis has a confidence issue at all,

10:17

um, him and Terry on Arnold probably

10:19

have some really good conversations about, you

10:22

know,

10:22

Yeah.

10:22

things cause they just seem to be. Very

10:25

confident individuals, which I think

10:27

just goes with that cornerback position. You got to have a short

10:29

memory and you got to think you can lock everybody

10:32

down. If you get down on yourself,

10:34

you know, you're, you're just not going to be productive

10:36

in the NFL.

10:38

right. Uh, yeah.

10:40

Cause you had mentioned about man coverage and, uh,

10:43

Carlton Davis never even gave up a touchdown

10:45

last year, man.

10:46

Okay. All right.

10:48

touchdowns. So.

10:49

Nice research, my friend.

10:50

which brings me to my other. The next one was, Amik

10:53

Robertson. Another one before the draft,

10:55

not a very flashy signing, a depth

10:58

piece. How did you feel when

11:00

we first signed them? How did you feel about that?

11:02

I didn't know too much about Amik, to be honest with

11:05

you, and, he seems small to be an

11:07

outside corner, but, when

11:09

I hear that, how confident

11:11

he is, and the fact that they can play him inside

11:13

and outside, which is nice to have,

11:16

I think this Team really likes versatility.

11:18

They like players that can play anywhere because it's great.

11:20

Someone gets injured, you can plug in a player

11:23

and you know, you don't have

11:25

to play someone out of position necessarily.

11:27

You can, you got some versatility, until I

11:29

see a meek on the field, I don't know too much about

11:31

him, but I do like his attitude. I do

11:33

like his versatility. The team really

11:35

likes them and he was part of like their

11:38

initial plan. And from what, Brad Holmes

11:40

said, in one of his press conferences, once

11:42

they traded for Carlton Davis, they were not expecting

11:45

a meek to sign on board, but he contacted

11:47

him and said, are we still going to do this? And. So,

11:51

you know, it's the amount of depth

11:53

in that secondary compared to

11:55

last year is impressive.

11:58

We'll see how Amik does, but I do like having

12:00

the additional depth there. See where he

12:02

goes. I don't know if he's going to go nickel or outside,

12:05

you know, it kind of just probably depends on the rookies

12:07

where they are. So he might

12:09

start, he might start out the season as the number

12:12

two on the outside. And then, because

12:14

this team doesn't seem to rush their

12:16

rookies, unless they're ready, Brian Branch

12:19

was right out there, but, Jameer

12:21

kind of was slowly brought on,

12:23

Jack Campbell was slowly brought on, looks

12:26

like Sam Laporta was right out the gate, so he was ready

12:28

to go, so if you're ready, they'll put you out there,

12:30

but they don't, um, have

12:33

to put them out there if, if they think they're,

12:35

they're going to struggle.

12:36

Yeah, that's just. Low risk,

12:38

high reward, I guess you would say, uh, for

12:40

a week. Got the right attitude.

12:43

Um, he actually, he scored better

12:45

than Carlton Davis or Kim Sutton on

12:47

pro football focuses ratings last year. Um,

12:50

but yeah, I didn't really hear too much about him

12:52

either.

12:53

I think he was just one of those guys that just,

12:56

he just does his job. You know, you don't hear

12:58

from him. You don't need to hear from him. I

13:00

think he likes football. Just like, you

13:03

know, everyone Brad Holmes, either drafts or signs,

13:05

you gotta, football's gotta be number one,

13:07

you know, and that the rest will take care of itself.

13:10

He's quite the Twitter presence.

13:12

Does he? I wouldn't know. I'm still on

13:14

MySpace,

13:15

I know you probably don't have Twitter. Do you know

13:17

what that is?

13:18

I do. No, it's called X.

13:20

So I'm one up on you friend.

13:22

It's not Twitter anymore.

13:24

Yes,

13:24

Yeah. Yeah. See? Yeah.

13:26

know, people that actually use it, we still call it

13:28

Twitter.

13:29

Yeah. I,

13:30

That's you.

13:31

Elon Musk will be mad at you. You know,

13:34

he, he bought Twitter, change it to X

13:36

so

13:36

Sorry, Elon. All right. Um,

13:39

get to some of the bigger ones here.

13:41

Mm-Hmm.

13:42

Kevin Zeitler, that was

13:44

huge. And that's one that I really

13:46

liked presence.

13:48

We, we lost Jonah, so we

13:50

needed somebody to step in. And I mean, you

13:53

really couldn't have asked for a better person to come in here.

13:55

especially at the salary point

13:58

Yeah. Like less than $6 million.

14:00

And Jonah's getting 17, you

14:03

know, he came off, uh, Bowl

14:05

appearance top 10 rated overall.

14:07

He's been a top five pass blocking

14:10

Lineman in the last three seasons. He actually

14:12

he's rated higher than Jonah Jackson pretty much

14:14

everything, you know, but he is older

14:17

So you just I mean, that's the only knock that you can really

14:19

say

14:20

Yeah, I think with Zeitler,

14:22

see here. It was a one year deal so

14:24

I mean That was just a good pickup

14:27

yeah, I think with Zeitler, you're just getting

14:29

like someone that's stronger and just, He's

14:31

not gonna be as mobile as say, Jonah

14:33

was really good at pulling and so you're

14:35

not gonna really, I don't think you're gonna get that with Zeitler,

14:37

but you're gonna get a wall that doesn't move

14:40

and you know pair that in between

14:42

Frank and Panay and

14:44

You could see that they're gonna be running To

14:47

that right side.

14:48

then Jared Goff's got all

14:50

Well, I mean that, and they're going to get Jimmy

14:52

or tons of room to run over there. So

14:55

I expect a lot of runs to the right

14:57

and especially in goal line, because they're going to be

14:59

ready over there. All right. Who you got next? Jacob.

15:02

Next one on my list DJ reader Another

15:04

big signing, another, one

15:07

is probably arguably the, the

15:09

biggest headline, I guess, out of the free agents was going

15:11

to be DJ Reader. Big

15:13

physical player, run stopper, I mean,

15:16

really what we needed up the middle, lined him

15:18

up next to Aleem. You really

15:20

hope he's creating pressure, uh, you

15:22

know, driving people outside to Hutch. desperately

15:25

needed the help.

15:26

Are you talking about a lean needed help?

15:29

Hutch, Hutch

15:30

Oh, okay. Yep. Sorry.

15:32

away from Hutch too easily.

15:34

Mm hmm.

15:35

Aleem made a big step up last year and definitely

15:37

was helpful. Uh, but you know, we kind

15:39

of shuffled through our other defensive tackles.

15:41

We need a solid guy like that. I

15:44

was going to say though, he's coming off of, uh,

15:46

an injury and he has a history

15:49

of having injuries. How'd You feel about it?

15:51

yeah, that's, uh, you know, the injury

15:53

is the big question mark, obviously with DJ

15:55

reader, it's coming off one, but I gotta

15:57

say the Lions probably felt pretty

15:59

confident that, you

16:01

know, he was going to recover just based

16:03

on how fast they

16:05

signed him. He was one of their primary targets,

16:08

you know, they've waited to,

16:10

he got into the building, before

16:12

they did the signing. So like he was there on a visit

16:15

and I think, I haven't read this officially,

16:17

but my reading on the situation is they

16:19

wanted to get their own physical and see him

16:22

and talk to him in person. And,

16:25

you know, I think they had the contract already

16:27

pretty much agreed on probably before he got there.

16:29

And they just wanted to make sure that he

16:31

was going to be fine physically. So my assumption

16:33

is that he's going to be fine and ready

16:35

to play. He's probably not doing anything and no TAs,

16:38

you know, I wonder if he's going to be in training camp. I'm sure

16:40

he's not going to play in preseason outside

16:42

of maybe a snap or two. We could talk about that

16:44

a little bit later when we get to some of our categories

16:47

down here. But yeah, that's, that's,

16:49

uh, that's a good signing.

16:51

Who else jumps out at you of our off season signings?

16:55

I think Graham is the next one

16:57

on, on there. I think Graham Glasgow,

16:59

I think getting him back, is important.

17:02

For a couple reasons, number one, he's

17:05

very versatile, so you can play

17:07

at the center, you know, he can be the backup

17:09

center, he can play both guard positions,

17:12

so, you know, say Zeitler gets

17:15

injured, you can move Graham right back over

17:17

to cover him, Frank gets injured,

17:20

you can move Graham in there, I

17:22

think him getting them for a pretty reasonable,

17:25

contract, especially for what his PFF grade

17:27

last year was, he was playing

17:29

like a top 10 guard last

17:31

year and the fact

17:33

that he, came back last year,

17:35

he had, it was really good to see him have

17:38

a good year. I was really happy for Graham,

17:40

he's the one that left during the Patricia

17:43

debacle era, you know, And

17:46

came back to play with his friends, he came back to play

17:48

with Frank and Taylor and,

17:50

I think if you're happy, play well, and I think

17:52

he was happy and he did play well last

17:54

year. So I, to me, when, when they,

17:56

I was hoping they would resign Graham.

17:59

Graham wanted to be resigned. I mean, he made

18:01

that pretty clear, but I'm really glad

18:03

the Lions gave him, you know, a

18:06

good deal. So it's what they didn't take him for granted.

18:08

They paid him what he's worth and I'm happy to have

18:10

Graham back. What do you think about that?

18:12

Oh no, I loved it. I mean, I know we talked

18:14

about that kind of before too, but, for him to come

18:17

back. a great season,

18:19

help the team out, flipping the script, basically

18:22

he's along for the ride now. You talk about

18:24

how Taylor Decker had to deal with everything

18:26

before Graham had to deal with that too, but

18:28

he bounced, he wasn't here the whole time,

18:30

but you know, he came back LeBron coming back

18:32

to the calves, uh, you know, hopefully we finished the job,

18:36

That's what I'd love to see. I mean, I was like Graham's

18:38

on LeBron's level, he's a Michigan man coming back

18:41

to the Lions.

18:42

the hometown.

18:42

Oh yeah. Yeah, exactly.

18:45

coming back. your team a championship

18:48

Yeah. When I took the boys

18:50

last year to training camp, my boys,

18:52

we went to training camp as our first year with season

18:54

tickets, you know, and so we went and experienced

18:57

a training camp and afterwards

18:59

we went down and the, both boys

19:01

had a ball to sign and Graham came over and signed.

19:04

And I. Whispered in the boy's

19:06

ear. I'm like when he gets over here, say go

19:08

blue. So they both said

19:11

go blue and Graham said

19:13

thank you. I looked at him in the eye and I'm like, it's

19:15

so good for you to be back with us.

19:18

And he, he said, he goes,

19:20

it's great to be back. It was just really nice to

19:22

hear that. He was so gracious to my boys.

19:25

It was really nice that he signed. It's really

19:27

impressive being next to an offensive lineman

19:29

like that. You just get to see how big

19:32

and strong they are. So, yeah, it was, Graham was

19:34

really, really nice to my boys, and I appreciate

19:36

it. So, they got, both got an autograph from Graham

19:39

upstairs in their bedroom. So, really

19:41

happy to have that.

19:42

Jason's talking about how he likes big strong men

19:44

didn't see that coming

19:45

Hey, man, come on. This is a football podcast.

19:48

next to them. I mean, I

19:51

that's all right. No, it's all

19:53

right. Well, you don't have to worry about being big and strong,

19:55

so you don't have nothing to worry about. Anyways,

19:58

uh, we could talk, uh,

20:01

what's the next one that.

20:02

than you,

20:02

Yeah, you are, you are, uh, what

20:04

is the next one that, um, next

20:07

big signing that comes out to

20:09

you? I got one in mind, but I'm gonna see if you think that

20:11

same thing.

20:11

you know, a lot of these were like one year

20:13

a lot Resigning some of these players

20:15

Emanuel Mosley, you know, we really still

20:18

don't know anything about him tough break

20:20

last year I was good for them to get him back

20:22

um I think the only other one that kind

20:24

of jumps out has got to be Brock Wright.

20:26

Okay. Yeah. I was stolen back from the 49ers.

20:28

That was actually one of the things

20:30

I was going to be talking about. Because we, you

20:33

know, we set these things aside, signings that you

20:35

don't like. And that's actually,

20:38

if I had to pick one on our free agent class,

20:40

I think that would probably be the one where it's like, Uh,

20:42

you know, I

20:44

don't really like that one as much.

20:46

Yeah, I really don't

20:48

it?

20:49

I'm kind of indifferent to it to be honest with you. I

20:51

like Brock Contract

20:53

seems a little high to me, but

20:56

it's structured in a way that it's not I

20:58

don't it's not debilitating at all.

21:01

So It was kind of interesting.

21:03

They probably just let the 49ers, you know, basically

21:06

Do the deal so Brock would agree and

21:08

then the Lions just said, okay, that sounds good.

21:11

We'll take you back. And I don't think I'm sure

21:13

Brock was ready to come back to the Lions.

21:15

I mean, I don't know if he didn't

21:17

really have a choice cause the Lions they had first right or

21:19

refusal on it Brock is always good for that one

21:21

play where he slips out, like, you know, they did it first

21:24

versus the Jets. And then he did it again last

21:26

year where he just slips out and everyone forgets

21:28

about him and then he's there. And he also had a great

21:30

catch on that Chargers game, if I believe

21:32

too. So he just likes he slips

21:34

out, especially as good as Sam Laporta

21:36

is all the tensions over there. And then Brock

21:38

he can just kind of do what he wants to do. You

21:40

know, he's just like, I'm over here and I'm wide

21:43

open. Just throw it to me. Um,

21:46

the one I was kind of thinking about is actually the Marcus

21:48

Davenport signing. It's

21:50

really kind of under the radar, like

21:52

people aren't really talking about it too much. And maybe

21:54

the expectations are low, but

21:57

you know, if you got DJ reader. You

21:59

know, clog in the middle. You maybe

22:02

have Aleem being able to

22:04

get more pressure because DJ Reader's

22:06

gotta be double teamed. Then all of a

22:08

sudden those guys, those quarterbacks gotta go

22:10

one way. They either got to decide to run towards

22:13

Hutch or they got to run the other way.

22:15

And if Marcus is over there, he could

22:17

just be, just lucky

22:19

to get a bunch of sacks just from, Quarterbacks

22:21

having to choose, the least difficult

22:24

spot to go with, and it might be just his direction.

22:26

I don't know. What do you think about the Marcus Davenport

22:28

signing?

22:28

You know, I was okay with that one a couple years

22:31

ago. He was very, very solid.

22:33

Um, you know, he's been

22:35

declining. I know he, he

22:38

was injured last year, right? I

22:40

mean, he missed most of the season. Is that correct?

22:42

correct. Yeah. But I mean, that's

22:44

been the knock on him, you know,

22:46

mean, right. Trying to stay healthy.

22:48

they don't have a lot of money invested in them. So that's,

22:50

it's kind of like, yeah,

22:53

That's what I was going to say. It's not like we offered

22:55

a huge contract. He also only got a one year

22:57

deal. Maybe he's banking

22:59

on himself, being able to prove it, playing for the

23:01

Lions and playing as part of this defense. Uh,

23:03

you know, with Hutch on the other side of him, maybe

23:07

he's thinking he's gonna turn that into a long term

23:09

contract. He's, he's not very old. He's still

23:11

young.

23:13

he's got like a Dan Campbell connection. Cause

23:15

he was, Dan Campbell was on the saints when

23:17

they drafted him. So I think they know

23:19

what they're getting. My, also my hope

23:21

with Davenport is that, he's not

23:23

going to be out there nearly as many steps

23:26

as, Aiden is on the other side,

23:28

you're rotating him in and out. If you don't have to

23:30

use them too much, maybe lower the injury risk,

23:32

cause he's not out there that much. And maybe you just

23:35

get more from him because he's got more gas in the tank.

23:37

Cause he's not out there, 75 percent

23:39

of the snaps, maybe he's out there like 50 percent

23:41

of the snaps if he's out there. You know, playing that week.

23:43

So, you know, I'm

23:45

like Von Miller.

23:46

yeah, you just get them out there and you just,

23:48

you know, you rather have someone at

23:51

full strength, you know, 50 percent of the time

23:53

than someone that's, you know, if you play him 60 or 70,

23:55

then he's going to get injured and then you don't have them at all.

23:57

Looking at the rest of the ones, the Emmanuel Mosley

24:00

that you mentioned earlier, you don't know what you're

24:02

getting. He's coming off the injury risk, but man, if

24:04

he can play

24:06

and, just get on the field that just gives

24:08

you another corner in that room. It could

24:10

be a really deep room. You could turn it to

24:13

like one of our weaknesses to potentially,

24:15

I don't want to say strength, but it it's

24:18

looking a lot better. Vildor, who's on

24:20

the field, with the 49ers

24:23

game. You know, as a starter

24:25

is now looking at you're looking at him as possibly

24:28

like the sixth, fifth or sixth corner

24:30

on the team. So that's nice

24:32

to see,

24:33

He may not even make the team now.

24:34

Yeah. Well, especially with the contract, I mean, he

24:36

has very little guaranteed money, there's

24:39

no guarantee

24:41

that he's going to make that team just based

24:43

on the numbers alone. He's

24:45

going to be fighting for a position. He might end up

24:47

just on the practice squad again, or,

24:50

someone else may just pick them up, who knows, another

24:52

person that we've resigned is DPJ down for

24:54

people's Jones. Got him on a very

24:57

small contract. I don't, you know, it doesn't seem

24:59

like the lines are very confident

25:01

in them. They didn't have to pay him that much,

25:03

but. Could end up

25:05

being a deal if he ends up being like the fourth

25:07

or fifth receiver, you know, I think he's still

25:10

got a lot of things in the tank. He can return

25:12

so he can work special teams. So he's

25:15

a hometown guy. So you want to see him succeed.

25:18

Any thoughts on DPJ?

25:19

Right, Michigan man.

25:21

That's right.

25:22

I like DPJ. I mean, obviously he hasn't really,

25:24

uh, thus

25:26

far. But, Josh Reynolds isn't there

25:28

anymore. We're hoping JMo takes

25:31

a big step up. There's gonna be targets

25:33

for DPJ if he's able to get out there. I

25:35

know they were using him on punt return a lot, but

25:38

He's not a bad receiver. I mean, he showed flashes

25:40

when he was in Cleveland, too.

25:42

Yeah, he would have those games.

25:43

really want him to succeed, you want him to slot in there,

25:45

but Just haven't seen it

25:48

so far.

25:48

Yeah, I agree. Uh, you know, he

25:50

just seems like he would have flashes in Cleveland

25:53

where you're like, man, that's off of People Jones.

25:55

You know, just being a fan of Michigan,

25:58

you know, I keep track of what DPJ is doing, especially

26:00

when you see him on a highlight reel. Stop and look and

26:02

be like, all right, he's doing all right, you

26:04

know? Then when he came to Michigan, or

26:06

back to Michigan, you know, the Lions

26:09

really want him to succeed because now he's on the hometown

26:11

team. So we'll see. I'm, I'm rooting

26:13

for him. I hope he does well. He's easily

26:15

cuttable if he doesn't, you know, Do much

26:18

in training camp and preseason because

26:20

that contracts very low. So hopefully

26:22

he does well I I'm rooting for him. All

26:25

right that kind of hits most of them we got

26:27

Zonovan, Knight I think the

26:29

rest of the signings we kind of you know, CJ

26:32

Moore was another one they signed, those are

26:34

players that either gonna be on special teams

26:36

or maybe,

26:37

low impact

26:39

yeah.

26:39

right. Roleplayers.

26:41

So I mean, they're important. CJ Moore was

26:43

a definitely, you know, especially on the fake

26:45

punts. He was had a good one, I think it

26:48

was versus the Vikings. You might see

26:50

him out there. Who knows? He's a special teams

26:52

demon. They need a little

26:54

bit of safety depth. So maybe you could, you

26:56

know, if they're competent and then being in safety,

26:58

I think, that might, might be

27:00

a thought process there too. So we'll see. I

27:02

don't think he had any guaranteed money on his contract.

27:05

So, you know, he's going to have to win a spot in

27:07

training camp. He's going to have to prove his worth, but

27:09

we'll see. Maybe the new kickoff rules, they, they

27:11

might have a spot for him there too. So we'll see.

27:14

Needs to stay off FanDuel. Heh.

27:16

He does, you know. They interviewed him

27:18

today, I actually read a thing, and

27:20

he said he's not gambling at all anymore, so

27:22

hopefully that's true. what a

27:24

crazy thing, but at least he's come back,

27:26

I mean, I'm happy for him, so

27:29

we got some categories here, three categories.

27:31

We're going to talk about our most impactful signing,

27:33

a signing that you don't like and, your favorite

27:36

signing. So we're going to just kind of run through these, each

27:38

of us will give our answer. first one is

27:40

the most impactful signing. I'll

27:42

kind of go first on this one. Jacob, is that okay

27:44

with you?

27:45

Yeah.

27:45

Okay.

27:46

I

27:46

right.

27:46

over most of the players already, so we're

27:48

Yeah.

27:48

quickly going

27:49

Yeah. Just quickly going through who I think is

27:51

going to be the most impactful for me.

27:53

It's DJ reader. If he's healthy,

27:56

it lights out. I think he can, he's

27:58

gonna make a lean look,

28:01

uh, better. I think he's gonna

28:03

free up a lean to do what

28:05

a lean can do is strong. First step,

28:07

get in the backfield. DJ reader.

28:10

If you don't double team DJ reader, you're

28:12

not going to be able to run the ball at all, because

28:14

he's just going to push the guy right

28:16

back into the quarterback and be ready to take

28:18

the handoff. He's very

28:21

strong. We're already had a very strong

28:23

run defense. It's going to make this even

28:26

stronger. And in. Turn

28:28

I think it's going to free up a liam to

28:31

not play them nose as much

28:33

and and be able to just Think

28:35

about hitting the quarterback and just getting up,

28:38

upfield, um, which in turn

28:40

is going to push, like we talked about earlier,

28:42

is going to push those guy, the quarterbacks out

28:45

to the edge. And if Aiden and whoever's

28:47

else is on the, you know, left side

28:49

they just need to set the edge and let the quarterback

28:51

come to them. Cause a couple of times, Aiden

28:54

would just, we needed some pressure and

28:56

he would jump inside. And I remember in that, uh, Chicago

28:58

game, Justin Fields just kept jumping outside,

29:01

um, because Aiden would be just

29:03

over pursuing the inside. So, I think

29:06

if they set the edge and be disciplined in

29:08

their game, I think that D. J. Reeder is just

29:10

gonna transform what,

29:12

what A. G. wants to do on this defense.

29:15

Uh, let alone them being able to send Iffy

29:17

or Brian Branch out the, you know,

29:19

cause they're gonna have to double, they're gonna have

29:22

to choose their double teams. They're gonna have to. Choose,

29:24

you know, reader and if they chip

29:26

or double team Aiden, that's going to just leave

29:28

a lot of guys with one on ones and they have to win

29:30

their one on ones. What's your most impactful

29:33

signing that you, that you got?

29:34

I think you stole my Google Documents, and

29:36

uh, that's why you wanted to go first.

29:39

All right. I guess.

29:40

for word, like some of my notes, you're just reading them

29:42

back off to me.

29:43

Yeah. Nope. Nope.

29:45

Stopping everything up the middle. I just

29:47

think the big thing is if he's going to stay healthy,

29:50

if he's healthy, he changes the entire defense

29:52

and it's just a great signing. Also

29:55

list that as most impactful. I'm not going

29:57

to repeat what you just said off of my notes.

29:59

Um, they all know. But

30:01

yeah, no, I think that that's definitely, that's the one

30:04

I'm excited about, Do you want to

30:06

continue to go first so that you can just

30:07

Nope. Nope. I want you to do

30:09

the next one. I, we went back and forth. I even

30:11

asked you, I was polite and then you said yes.

30:14

But then it seemed like you hesitated

30:16

and probably because you know, uh,

30:18

you were just going to say whatever I was going to

30:20

say anyways, because you don't have your notes. You're just lying.

30:23

So, all right. What do you,

30:24

to get that out. Okay,

30:25

I did. All right.

30:27

Which one are we going to? You

30:28

Uh,

30:28

Signing I Don't Like or The Favorite?

30:30

um, either one you pick, I'm going to let you pick

30:33

cause you're arguing about the last one. So you pick

30:35

on this one.

30:35

said this one earlier, so you can't steal this one.

30:38

Okay.

30:39

you know, if we're looking at the list and having to pick one that

30:41

we don't like, I would have said Brock Wright. Um.

30:44

Not that I don't like Brock right as a player

30:47

But I think the offer that we signed

30:49

him for was like two

30:51

and a half million or something like that Maybe a little bit

30:53

more

30:54

Mm hmm.

30:55

deal from the 49ers. Then we have to match

30:58

It's not like he's making four million per year

31:00

on average. He's a blocking tight end It's

31:02

not like we're paying him an astronomical amount of money,

31:04

but at the same time knock

31:07

on wood if the Receiving

31:10

tight end that we have goes down He's

31:13

not someone that's gonna just slot into that spot.

31:15

He was targeted 14 times last year

31:18

granted He caught 13 of them, but how many

31:20

of those was he? And afterthought

31:22

and was wide open or, you know, it was part of a scheme.

31:25

Um, once again, it's not that I

31:27

don't like Brock, right. I just, you know, I

31:30

guess that's the signing that not

31:32

exactly stoked about. I think we could have let him

31:34

go to San Francisco and it wouldn't have killed the

31:36

team.

31:37

I agree. I just like not letting San

31:39

Francisco get one of our players, I think

31:41

it goes to say how good these signings are

31:44

that you have trouble finding one that you

31:46

don't like, and you have to pick a

31:48

tight end that you signed three years for 12

31:51

million. Cause what's, you know, 12

31:53

million over three years. I didn't really. Have

31:56

a signing we don't like what I'm

31:59

the only thing I would add to this is like if they were

32:01

to resign Jonah at 17 million that

32:03

would have been the signing that I didn't like

32:06

and they were smart enough to just Let

32:09

that go. it's sometimes it's not

32:11

necessarily who you sign. It's also who

32:13

you don't sign and you know, what decisions

32:15

you make about what player you're going to

32:17

keep and what player you're going to move on from. Like

32:20

Jonah Jackson thought he was a special talent.

32:23

I'm not convinced that he's worth 17

32:26

million a year. So, especially when we get Zeitler

32:28

for 6 million, you know, I know it's just

32:30

one year and Zeitler's older, but. For

32:32

the here and the now, and for this team, I

32:35

think our offensive line is better this year than

32:37

it was last year. Would you agree

32:39

on that?

32:39

Absolutely. That's actually, you know,

32:42

that's my favorite signing that I picked was for Zytler

32:44

and for those reasons.

32:45

Okay.

32:46

So once again, proof that you have access to

32:48

my documents,

32:48

Nope. Nope. Yeah, man.

32:51

No, man. We just have good chemistry and

32:53

I just kind of, you know, just

32:56

can kind of naturally segue into things and

32:58

then you mess up the segue.

32:59

on here and he knows he's quickly

33:01

losing control. He's like, I got to

33:03

do something. What can I do? I'm going

33:05

to hack into the documents. I'm

33:08

going to use his notes and say exactly what he's

33:10

going to say first.

33:11

Listen, if you think I'm smart enough

33:13

to hack into your notes, or

33:15

if you think that I would spend

33:17

that much time just to, you know, make

33:19

you look stupid, You're probably right.

33:22

But anyways, so I want to talk

33:24

about my favorite signing. It is,

33:26

uh, I'm going to go with another offensive lineman.

33:28

I'm mine's Graham. I'm super happy

33:31

to have him back. I think they got him for an affordable

33:33

deal, locks up one of those

33:35

guard positions for, three years.

33:37

So we know. Next year, say Zeitler,

33:40

you know, we don't sign him depending

33:43

on one of these young offensive linemen

33:45

we got, maybe they jump in there, maybe

33:47

we sign another free agent, who knows, but

33:49

Graham gives us flexibility

33:51

along with on the guard position and also,

33:54

God forbid that Frank goes down,

33:56

gives us, a backup there. So when

33:59

I, when we resigned Graham,

34:02

I was just. Um,

34:04

I was happy and just relieved that it was

34:06

just a, you know, we had done it. I was pretty

34:08

confident it was going to happen because they both

34:11

wanted it to happen. But,

34:13

last year, the Jamal Williams thing,

34:15

you know, it seemed like in the offseason that

34:17

was a done deal. Like before he

34:19

left, it just looked like, okay, Jamal

34:21

wants this done. The Lions have

34:23

said they wanted this done. But it

34:25

just, for whatever reason, it didn't happen.

34:28

And, um, you know, I

34:30

was really hoping that did not happen

34:32

to Graham. And, you know, he resigned

34:35

so that relieved all the anxiety

34:37

that I had. Again, the strength of this team

34:39

is the offensive line. Your favorite signing

34:41

is on one side of the offensive line. My favorite

34:44

signing is on the other side of the offensive line. Uh,

34:47

it's Detroit Lions football. We love our

34:49

offensive linemen. Big, strong.

34:52

Offensive line men. Um,

34:57

your last one. I'm gonna sign out the next time you mentioned

34:59

big strongman.

35:00

that's right. Oh,

35:03

all right.

35:05

It was a good point It was a good point though.

35:07

All right. The next thing that we wanted to talk about

35:09

is the next in line. Jacob

35:12

and I compiled a list of five players

35:14

that are in their last year of

35:16

their contracts. We're going to go through,

35:18

I think, we'll just go through the list and then we'll

35:20

talk about, who we'd want to have, if

35:22

we had to pick one of these players to resign, Players

35:25

in line are, Taylor Decker last year,

35:27

the old Derek Barnes, if

35:29

he, uh, a lean McNeil

35:31

and Carlton Davis jacob, if you had to

35:33

pick one of those five, right

35:35

now, that had to sign to Accenture,

35:38

who would it be and why would you do that?

35:40

It's tough to pick one. But if

35:42

I'm looking at that list I guess I would have to go with Aleem

35:45

the way that he played last year You know the

35:47

steps that he's taken because he didn't play

35:50

so well the year before he took a huge leap

35:52

Melifanu did the same they both rated

35:54

high 80s for pro football focus They both

35:56

showed out and did really really good Um,

36:00

I think that that would be my number one. I

36:02

would put him as my top priority. I

36:05

would like to resign a couple of them, but if I had to pick

36:07

one, this, let's get this deal done first,

36:09

I would say you have to be a lean.

36:11

I'm with you on that. I

36:13

really think that that's, he's going to be vital.

36:15

I think he's a nice young player

36:18

that he can do a lot of things. And

36:20

he's been with this regime.

36:22

They know him. They drafted him. I

36:24

fully expect that. They'll get a deal done.

36:27

If both sides want to get the deal done, it just

36:29

depends on the money issue. I

36:31

mean, to me, it comes down to that. Defensive

36:33

tackles make a lot of money. They're going to,

36:35

they're going to extend Aiden next year. I, I

36:38

would be shocked if they do not extend Aiden

36:41

next year. there's going to be some other money

36:43

that. You know, it's going to go out the door there

36:45

along with the other players that we just resigned

36:47

this year. You know, some of those contracts are going to be hitting

36:50

big numbers. Aleem is going

36:52

to be. A priority, but the

36:54

money is going to speak there. Um, my

36:56

player, if I had to

36:59

resign any of those five, um,

37:01

I I'm going to lean towards Taylor, just

37:03

because I like to keep the strength

37:06

on the offensive line, the advantage

37:08

of resigning Taylor, especially if we do an extension,

37:10

this off season is probably lowering his cap

37:13

hit. He's like one of the higher cap hits on the team

37:15

this year. I think that you're going to end up

37:17

being able to get him cheaper. You got to

37:19

keep them on the left side. You know, you,

37:21

if you extend them for another two years, and then

37:23

you have a three year deal, lower the cap hit this

37:25

year, if you could sign him reasonably,

37:28

I'm sure Taylor wants to be here. Taylor

37:31

has been through a lot of losing and he's not

37:33

about to give up now. So I

37:35

think, Aleem's probably, you know, money

37:37

out the window. Aleem's the player that I want on

37:39

this team. If I had to pick one of those five, taking

37:42

money into consideration, Taylor is

37:44

the player I think he can save

37:46

us money this year. And then, you know, it won't be as

37:48

expensive as Aleem. So if I had to do,

37:50

if I had to pick one of the five, that's probably

37:53

what I'm leaning. Um, if

37:55

he's an interesting one, cause

37:58

you know, he's had some injury risk, but he's

38:00

just seems like the last, like half

38:02

of last year, he figured it all out or

38:04

AG figured out where to. where

38:06

to use him. I

38:14

don't know if it was because it was surprising to the teams,

38:16

but it kept happening even throughout the

38:18

playoffs. You would have think the tape would have been out

38:20

by then, they would have known he was coming. So, I just

38:23

think he might be really naturally good at it. Um,

38:25

he had the biggest interception probably in,

38:28

um, I don't know, the Derrick Barnes

38:30

one. Both two of these guys had huge interceptions,

38:32

right? I mean,

38:33

Tough.

38:34

I don't know.

38:35

that now.

38:35

I, yeah, I don't know. That's a good topic though.

38:37

Right. Which one is the more, uh,

38:40

You might have

38:40

iconic interception? Oh man,

38:43

that's a good argument. I don't know. We'll have to, we'll have

38:45

to spend that off sometime. Cause I,

38:46

revisit that.

38:47

yeah, cause our, and you know, when we start

38:49

getting up on our socials, that would be a great poll

38:52

question. Right.

38:53

Yeah,

38:53

It's too bad that we're not quite there yet

38:56

to get feedback from our fans, but that's

38:58

a great question. So do you see

39:00

me on Reddit? If you're one of the people on Reddit

39:02

that's following us, um, in that post,

39:05

I'd love to hear your take on which

39:07

one was the bigger interception.

39:09

I'm, I'm not going to say my answer right now.

39:11

I kind of want to hear everybody else's and then maybe

39:13

we'll, maybe we'll revisit that over the

39:15

summer. Cause that might be, you know, in a slow

39:17

week.

39:18

reserve my

39:19

Yeah. Yeah. Keep, keep it. But

39:21

you know, It's interesting, they're both those

39:24

guys had major interceptions

39:26

at, you know, two different very important

39:28

games for us. if he

39:30

just seemed to figure it out that last half, I guess

39:32

the whole point before I, you know, went on my

39:35

spiel there, I, So I, Ify

39:37

would be an interesting one. The question is, can Ify

39:39

stay healthy and can he maintain

39:42

that high level of play? So, what's

39:44

your thought on Ify?

39:45

Like I said, another huge leap, uh,

39:48

him and Aleem both played, you know,

39:50

much better than they did before. They, I

39:53

guess it really depends on how this season plays out.

39:56

Mm hmm.

39:56

now, if you're going to resign him, you could probably resign

39:58

him 6 million a year

40:00

or something like that. But you know, if he has another

40:03

season, like he was

40:05

tearing it up the end of last year. So if he has

40:07

a whole season like that this year, he's probably looking

40:09

to get paid. And he's looking for probably

40:11

about twice as much as that. And then, you know,

40:14

can we afford that? As you mentioned, we

40:16

got Hutchinson's contract looming.

40:18

I really feel like a liam is

40:21

going to get paid.

40:22

Yeah, I think Aleem's going to get at least 25

40:24

million a year, probably more. Especially

40:26

if the cap number goes up. I think he's

40:29

looking,

40:29

thinking probably right around 20, but

40:31

yeah.

40:31

same, you

40:32

Yeah.

40:32

up again this year, and then that's going to skyrocket.

40:35

Yeah, I, I think if he doesn't get 25

40:37

million a year, I'd be pretty shocked just

40:39

looking at where everybody at the

40:41

top five sits, when those guys

40:43

sign, it's kind of like the next guy up

40:45

gets, gets paid and he's, I'm

40:48

not saying he's in the elite, elite class,

40:50

but you know, if T. J. Reeder makes him look like

40:52

a superstar this year, he is going to

40:54

get paid. He's going to get the Brinkstruck backed

40:56

up to his house.

40:57

I mean, if you say 25 million, that puts them

41:00

above Quinn and Williams or the jets, Derek

41:02

Brown. Justin Matt, who

41:04

just signed,

41:05

Mm hmm.

41:06

That puts him above all those guys. Chris

41:08

Jones is at 31 million. Christian Wilkins is at

41:10

27.

41:11

yeah, I just think it's one of those things that the cap

41:13

keeps going up. So it's not necessarily

41:16

like, do I think he's a better player than those guys?

41:18

No, I'm not. I'm not saying that, but

41:21

you know, if he's a free agent and you need

41:23

defensive tackle help, he's going to be

41:25

on your list. And when you have few

41:28

elite guys going out, they're

41:30

going to get paid I hope for his sake

41:32

that he gets paid what he's worth for

41:34

the lion's sake. and my sake, I hope

41:37

that he's, be able to stay with the lions for whatever

41:39

contract they can work out,

41:40

Right. Really wanted him to stay,

41:42

but it's really hard not to talk about

41:44

it. But the Hutchinson contract, if you talk

41:46

about any of those, Hutchinson's the one that's gonna get paid.

41:49

Oh yeah.

41:50

And you know, he's gonna be, he's probably

41:52

gonna leapfrog Bosa, I would assume.

41:54

Yeah. I would,

41:55

a hometown discount with him, or you know,

41:57

but I think the thing that I think

41:59

if you look at the B'nai Suul deal, not that

42:01

we're going to get into those contracts, you know, they bought

42:04

him out of this fifth year contract,

42:06

um, you know, and then extend them on that.

42:09

I could see a similar thing happen with Aiden. And then

42:11

you get to spread that signing bonus

42:13

throughout that whole contract and that kind of lowers the

42:15

cap hit throughout so I could definitely

42:18

see them just doing

42:20

that. They could just lower the cap hit and

42:22

then hopefully that can help the contract situation

42:24

out I don't see Aiden

42:27

wanting to leave. I think Aiden's gonna

42:30

make it worth You know he's gonna

42:32

get his money and I think the team isn't

42:34

gonna want him to leave either because he's

42:37

Everything you want in a player, plus he's got

42:40

the hometown, thing going on and

42:42

he's just seeing this,

42:43

right,

42:43

I wouldn't even say resurgence of lions because

42:46

resurgence means they were there some before this

42:48

emergence is what I guess I would say,

42:50

you know, they've,

42:51

right.

42:51

I can't see him wanting to leave just

42:53

like I can't see Taylor want, you

42:55

know, just as we're becoming

42:57

a perennial winner, leaving

43:00

during that, so I think they'll, they'll

43:02

get the deal done. It's matter.

43:04

to the Taylor thing, um, know,

43:08

the longest tenured lion.

43:10

Mm hmm.

43:10

been on the team longer than anybody else. Uh,

43:13

he's going to be 32 when he signs the next

43:15

contract. So that's another

43:17

one. Do we get a hometown discount? I'm

43:20

sure he wants to stay here. Like you said,

43:22

he doesn't want to, you know, he's been here long enough.

43:24

We finally got it going. I'm sure he wants to stay.

43:26

How much of a discount do you get from him?

43:28

Do you think they should pay him top money?

43:31

Yeah, I don't think he's gonna have top money in Nordo.

43:33

I don't think he necessarily deserves top money.

43:35

I wouldn't call him necessarily a premier

43:37

left tackle in the league. And

43:39

the fact with the age, so I think that,

43:42

you know, you're going to spread that money

43:44

out. Like I said, he's one of the higher cap

43:46

hits this year on this year's cap. I think

43:49

they lower that number and

43:51

then, you know, you push those cap savings into

43:53

the next couple of years when you got, you're

43:56

starting to have these other big contracts. Yeah. I

43:58

think that's the advantage of re signing Taylor

44:00

is that. You're potentially saving

44:02

money this year and then, you're locking down that

44:04

left side again for another couple

44:06

years and then, at that point,

44:08

you got to decide whether you're just going to always keep

44:11

Penne on the right or, is he

44:13

your next left tackle and we're getting the right probably

44:16

just depends on the player that, comes to

44:18

us. I mean, whether through the draft or,

44:20

free agency, at that time. The

44:23

player that we didn't talk about was Carlton

44:25

Davis. They restructured his deal,

44:28

after they traded for him, gave

44:30

up a third round pick, which is, you know, it's

44:33

considerable investment, a third round pick,

44:35

especially with Brian Holmes picking,

44:37

Yeah. When you're Brad Holmes, that's right.

44:39

That's as good as a first.

44:40

You're gonna get a quality player. The draft

44:42

kind of just fell the way it fell.

44:44

I think the lines, I don't think they like, went

44:47

out there and said, hey, we're gonna draft two cornerbacks.

44:49

I think it just happened that, you know, they

44:51

liked these two players that they got.

44:53

They traded up for Tarion. Uh,

44:56

and it's rake straw just kind of fell

44:59

to them. Some where people were mocking them in the 29th

45:02

spot. I think that they were happy to get them.

45:05

I think depending on how those rookies develop,

45:07

it makes Carlton Davis, you know, they, They're

45:09

probably like, well, we don't need to extend them this

45:11

year. We're going to see how he plays

45:13

and how the rookies play, and then we'll kind of go from

45:15

there. That's my read on it.

45:18

Exactly. We're in a good position,

45:20

you know, see how it pans out.

45:22

that's, um, that's what I see. So

45:25

from all that, I'm going to go back to that most important

45:27

interception. That's all I'm going to be thinking about tonight

45:29

after I start editing this.

45:32

What about the strong men?

45:34

Nope. Not going to be thinking about that at all.

45:36

Um, well, I'll be thinking about it as I edit it

45:38

out of the podcast and I'll leave it. You

45:40

know, you keep saying strong men and the people are good.

45:42

Yeah, there

45:43

And everyone would be like, why is he keep mentioning

45:45

strong men? So,

45:48

all right, man. Well,

45:49

it on my own end so you can't twist these things around.

45:51

yeah, no, no, no. I, that's

45:54

why I got the edit password and you don't even, I'm not

45:56

even gonna share that with you. So,

45:58

That's fine.

45:59

Again, I just want to appreciate everyone that,

46:01

you know, that, commented over on

46:03

Reddit again. It, it's really made my

46:05

day. It's kind of what I've been thinking about all day.

46:08

So I really appreciate that. Jacob's working on

46:10

the social media aspect. So we're,

46:12

you know, we're getting the Facebook page is actually

46:14

up. You, uh, you can, they could search on it right

46:17

now. Correct. And then,

46:18

is live now.

46:19

okay, it's live. Haven't really pushed

46:21

any content out there yet. We're kind of

46:23

just. Seeing where all

46:25

this leads and then we'll go from there. So,

46:27

but you can go in there. If you want to comment to us,

46:29

we'll be checking that page out and we can, you

46:32

know, kind of have contact there also

46:34

on the Reddit page. If you search up new

46:36

lines podcast, it was in there. My,

46:38

call name on there is just Woodrow jr.

46:41

So if you see that, that's the, where,

46:43

you know, there's kind of a thread already talking

46:45

about our podcast. So I'll probably

46:47

create a community at some point on there, but

46:49

for right now, you could just go on there and read, you

46:51

know, Read and comment on

46:53

there and be, I'd really be

46:55

happy to hear everybody's thoughts on that. The next

46:57

one I think we're going to talk about

46:59

is the resignings. We'll get that up, you

47:02

know, just depending on, when we have time,

47:04

but it's going to be once a week. So usually on Thursday nights,

47:06

it seems like we're recording. So hopefully up on Fridays,

47:09

um, I'll have this edited and up somewhere

47:11

on Friday or Saturday, just depending on my

47:13

work schedule and stuff like that.

47:15

Jason plays bingo on Wednesdays so we can't

47:17

do

47:17

yeah, that's right. As much as, we

47:19

were joking around here, Jacob and

47:21

I were really happy. I'm just, I'm super proud

47:24

of, um, he's

47:27

able to do on his end also I would just want

47:29

to give a shout out to, his wife,

47:31

Deanna, who made the logo for

47:33

us, I got a lot of positive

47:35

comments on the logo. I love

47:37

it. I know Jacob loves it. So I,

47:40

I want to thank Deanna for, for

47:42

doing what she did. She's an amazing

47:45

artist. So we plan on making some

47:47

shirts, with that logo on there

47:49

and you know, we'll kind of just get that on

47:51

socials if we're gonna Sell

47:53

those or if we're going to give them a giveaways

47:56

of some sort. So,

47:57

yeah.

47:58

We're kind of playing with all that. So sorry,

48:00

I don't have any for sure, information

48:02

on that, but we're just playing this all by ear

48:04

and, you know, and again,

48:07

we really appreciate the support that we've seen so

48:09

far. It's been, uh, more

48:11

than I expected this early. I, I

48:13

really, um, Just very

48:16

grateful for all that. Anything else you want to add,

48:18

Jacob?

48:19

Yeah, no, I just second that. You know, we're

48:21

really just the ropes. We're

48:23

really just very new, just getting things

48:25

going. I mean Just creating the social

48:28

media and just getting everything ready now. So

48:30

to already have the response we've had is, you

48:32

know, very positive, very good

48:34

feeling.

48:35

So I, I'm just so appreciative

48:37

of everything. So I, I, again, I'm

48:39

kind of rambling on, but I, it's

48:41

really mind blowing to me. I guess

48:43

for Jacob, we'd like to thank everyone for listening

48:46

for all the support that we've got now. I

48:48

hope everyone, that's listening to this has a great

48:50

day and, as always go

48:53

lions.